Trump brings Hunter Biden s former business partner to the final debate as the media studiously avoid the story. Trump shows up for the debate, mostly, and Joe Biden pledges to end the oil industry. Ben Shapiro breaks it all down and explains why the story is so important and why the media should be paying attention to it. The Ben Shapiro Show is sponsored by ExpressVPN. You get an extra 3 months of ExpressVPN service for FREE. That makes your activity more difficult to trace and sell to advertisers. Instead of using ExpressVPN, you are now protected from hackers and internet bad guys. Voila! ExpressVPN also encrypts 100% of your data to protect you from hackers. It s finally time to say no to censorship. Take back your online privacy at ExpressVPN! Ben Shapiro is a writer, comedian, and podcaster. His work has appeared on Comedy Central, HBO, and the New York Times. He is a regular contributor on the radio show and hosts a podcast called with his wife, Rachel Maddow. and his daughter, Maddie, who is a frequent guest on the podcast . He has been married to his long-term girlfriend, Amy Poehler, and they have a son, Joe Biden, who also happens to be a good friend, too. And he has a dog named Hunter Biden, too, and he's a great friend, which you should listen to this episode of if you do not miss it. He's a good one. If you don t get it? - listen to it on the episode of the Ben Shapiro show on The Late Night Show with Ben Shapiro did it on his podcast on The Daily Mail? and it's also on Jimmy Seinfeld on The Good Morning After Show with him on on the Good Morning Thing with or the Good Thing Podcast on on The Good Thing on The Bad Thing on Good Thing with Good Thing and Good Thing On Good Thing on Good Things on Good And Bad And Good Things On Good And The Good And Good And So Much More on Good And Great Things on That's That s That's a Fact Check It Out on It's Out on That s Good And That s All That s Out on This Is It on It s Good and Good On That's Good And They Say It's That's It on Good and That s Not That on It On That And That's Not That On That s Also Good And This Is That on That And More On That and That's Also That And This And That And They Have It on That
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00:01:48.000To understand exactly how this debate went, however, we have to backtrack a little bit.
00:01:51.000We have to do the run-up to the debate.
00:01:53.000So, late yesterday afternoon, just before the debate, there was a press conference called by the Trump campaign.
00:01:58.000This press conference was very much reminiscent of the press conference that President Trump held with accusers against Bill Clinton.
00:02:06.000Back in 2016, he brought a bunch of women who had accusations against Bill Clinton and suggested that Hillary Clinton had covered all of that up and all that sort of thing.
00:02:16.000He brought forth a guy named Tony Bobulinski.
00:02:17.000Bobulinski was a former would-be business partner of Hunter Biden.
00:02:22.000And he alleges that it wasn't just that Hunter Biden was going around the globe picking up bags of cash.
00:02:27.000He alleges that he was doing so on behalf of the Biden family.
00:02:30.000He says he has the receipts to prove it, that Joe Biden actually knew what was going on, that Joe Biden was involved.
00:02:35.000Now, as we will see, it is not clear at all from the documentary evidence that has been thus far presented that Joe Biden was deeply involved in his son Hunter's business.
00:02:44.000However, there are certainly implications in the Hunter Biden emails that suggest it.
00:02:48.000As far as money actually changing hands, again, there's no actual documentary implication that money has actually changed hands and has been funneled directly to Joe Biden.
00:02:57.000Because the media are studiously avoiding the story, except for maybe the Wall Street Journal, which is now reporting on it.
00:03:02.000But Tony Bobulinski did this press conference, and again, this was right before The debate and suddenly made this story a lot more serious because before it had just been all of these emails that had sort of been dripped out via the New York Post.
00:03:14.000It had been put out a little bit via Fox News.
00:03:16.000Well, now you actually had a face of a person who worked with Hunter Biden saying that Joe was intimately involved with the business.
00:03:22.000So Bobulinski gets up in basically a spare room in Nashville, Tennessee, and he says, I was told earlier this week that if I reveal what I know, it's going to bury all of us, meaning the Biden family as well.
00:03:35.000I was told this past Sunday by somebody who was also involved in this matter that if I went public this information, it would bury all of us, man.
00:03:51.000The few contributions I've made have been to Democrats.
00:03:55.000But what I am is a patriot and a veteran.
00:03:58.000Okay, Bobulinski also suggested that he had privy inside knowledge to everything that was going on in Hunter Biden's business.
00:04:06.000He spoke deliberately of a May 13, 2017 email in which it was discussed how much of an interest in a Chinese company would be held by H, H meaning Hunter Biden.
00:04:16.000Apparently it's 20% and some 10% going to the big guy.
00:04:19.000So Bobulinski said the big guy here was Joe Biden, which of course would take this from the realm of Joe kind of knew and patted his son on the head as his son went around picking up bags of cash, which is extremely plausible and in fact probable.
00:04:30.000There's a line between that and Joe Biden actually received money from these sort of corrupt goings on.
00:04:35.000Again, if Biden did this after he was vice president, it is not a violation of the law.
00:04:39.000He's allowed to do it after he is vice president.
00:04:41.000It does certainly look like influence peddling, however.
00:04:44.000And Joe Biden apparently was in contact with Hunter about this stuff, according to Bobulinski, as early as 2015, 2016, when he actually was vice president.
00:04:52.000In any case, here was Bobulinski saying that the H in that email stood for Hunter, and Biden was the big guy.
00:04:58.000On May 13, 2017, I received an email concerning allocation of equity, which says 10% held by H for the big guy.
00:05:08.000In that email, there's no question that H stands for Hunter, big guy for his father, Joe Biden.
00:05:18.000Yeah, he says he came forward, Bobulinski did, because he was tired of hearing Joe Biden suggest that he had never discussed business with Hunter when Bobulinski says, I know firsthand that that is false.
00:05:32.000I've been at dinners where they have discussed business.
00:05:35.000I've heard Joe Biden say that he's never discussed business with Hunter.
00:05:42.000I have firsthand knowledge about this because I directly dealt with the Biden family, including Joe Biden.
00:05:49.000I was introduced to Joe Biden by Jim Biden and Hunter Biden.
00:05:53.000At my approximately hour-long meeting with Joe that night, we discussed the Biden's history, the Biden's family business plans with the Chinese, with which he was plainly familiar, at least at a high level.
00:06:08.000Okay, and then Bobulinski held up some cell phones and he said, all the evidence of what I'm saying is on these phones.
00:06:13.000I've turned these over to the proper authorities.
00:06:18.000Tomorrow, I will be meeting with the Senate committee members concerning this matter, and I will be providing to the FBI the devices which contain the evidence corroborating what I have said.
00:06:29.000The evidence sits on these three phones.
00:06:31.000I don't want to go into anything any further.
00:06:33.000This will all be discussed with Senator Johnson and his committee, and the American people can decide what's fact.
00:06:40.000OK, so that is where things stood until just before the debate.
00:06:43.000Finally, the Biden campaign put out what seems to be a pretty comprehensive statement denying the story.
00:06:49.000According to the Biden campaign, quote, as Chris Wallace said on air about this very smear, Vice President Biden has actually released his tax returns, unlike President Trump.
00:06:55.000And there is no indication he ever got any money from anybody in these business deals.
00:06:59.000Joe Biden has never even considered being involved in business with his family, nor in any overseas business whatsoever.
00:07:04.000He has never held stock in any such business arrangements, nor has any family member or any other person ever held stock for him.
00:07:10.000What is true is that Tony Bobulinski admitted on the record to Breitbart that he is angry he was not able to go into business with Hunter and James Biden.
00:07:15.000What is also true is that in contrast to Vice President Biden, Donald Trump has a secret Chinese bank account and pays more in taxes in China than he pays in federal income tax in the United States.
00:07:23.000And this is a desperate, pathetic farce executed by a flailing campaign with no rationale for putting our country through another Okay, so that is a pretty comprehensive denial by the Biden campaign.
00:07:33.000There are ways to spin it where it looks as though maybe there's some hair splitting.
00:07:37.000So, for example, you could say, well, maybe the stock isn't stock.
00:07:41.000Maybe it's some other form of asset, right?
00:07:43.000Not all ownership in a company comes in the form of actual stock.
00:07:47.000Maybe you could say that Joe Biden didn't have to be involved with the overseas business.
00:07:51.000He could have just been sort of a passive partner in the overseas business.
00:07:54.000There are ways to parse this in which theoretically Biden couldn't be denying the story, but it looks mostly overall like Biden is denying the story and the denial is blanket enough that if any of that ended up being true, Biden would get excoriated for it.
00:08:06.000So the Wall Street Journal has a couple of pieces further explicating the story itself.
00:08:10.000We'll get to those in just one second.
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00:09:20.000Okay, so the Wall Street Journal has a couple of reports detailing the rest of the sort of Bobulinski story.
00:09:26.000One, the headline says, Hunter Biden's ex-business partner alleges father knew about venture.
00:09:30.000However, corporate records reviewed by the Wall Street Journal show no record for Joe Biden.
00:09:35.000According to the Wall Street Journal, the Biden campaign denied that Joe had any involvement in this Chinese venture with this oil company or stood to gain by it.
00:09:44.000Bobulinski said he was rankled by Joe Biden's public statements he never discussed the international business activities of Hunter and other family members.
00:09:50.000He also cited nearly $5 million in payments.
00:09:52.000A Senate Republican report last month said that CEFC made to Hunter Biden's law firm as another reason to come forward.
00:09:59.000Bobulinski said he took part in a meeting with Hunter, Joe Biden, and Joe Biden's brother James Biden in L.A.
00:10:03.000in 2017 when they discussed the Biden family business plans with the Chinese, of which Joe Biden was plainly familiar, at least at a high level.
00:10:10.000A Biden campaign spokesman didn't immediately respond to a question about the alleged meeting with Bobulinski.
00:10:14.000James Biden and an attorney for Hunter Biden didn't respond to requests for comment.
00:10:18.000And then they, of course, issued from the campaign this blanket denial.
00:10:22.000Text messages and emails related to the venture that were provided to the journal by Bobulinski, mainly from the spring and summer of 2017, don't show either Hunter Biden or James Biden discussing a role for Joe in the venture.
00:10:32.000Which sounds like maybe, just maybe, the project was on the road and then it sort of fell apart.
00:10:35.000up any speculation that former VP Biden was involved with the 2017 discussions about our potential business structure. I'm unaware of any involvement at any time of the former VP.
00:10:42.000The activity in question never delivered any project revenue. And which sounds like maybe, just maybe, the project was on the road and then it sort of fell apart.
00:10:52.000Kimberly Strassel has a report over at the Wall Street Journal on this.
00:10:55.000She says that Bobulinski's text messages show he was recruited for the project by that James Gilear character, a Hunter associate.
00:11:04.000Gilear explains in a December 2015 text there will be a deal between the Chinese and quote, one of the most prominent families from the United States.
00:11:10.000A month later, he introduces Rob Walker, also a partner of Biden.
00:11:13.000In March 2016, Gilear told Bobulinski the Chinese entity was CEFC, which was shaping up to be the Goldman's of China, meaning Goldman Sachs.
00:11:21.000Gilear promised that same month to develop the terms of a deal with Hunter.
00:11:24.000At this point, Joe Biden, of course, was still vice president.
00:11:27.000As the deal began to take shape in 2017, Bobulinski began to question what Hunter would contribute besides his name and worried he was, quote, kicked out of the U.S.
00:11:35.000Gilear acknowledged skill sets missing and observed that Hunter has a few demons.
00:11:38.000He explained that in brand, Hunter is imperative, but right now he's not essential for adding input.
00:11:45.000Hunter was hardly visible through most of the work until final negotiations ramped up in mid-May.
00:11:48.000He brought in his uncle, Jim Biden, for a stake.
00:11:51.000Hunter, in texting emails, wanted offices in three U.S.
00:11:53.000cities, significant travel budgets, a stipend for Jim, a job for an assistant, and more frequent distributions of any gains.
00:11:59.000And of course, he explained that he wanted a hell of a lot more than $850,000 per year because his ex-wife would nearly take all of it.
00:12:06.000Hunter repeatedly made clear that his contribution was his name.
00:12:09.000He railed at Bobulinski that the CEFC heads are, quote, coming to be my partner, to be partners with the Bidens.
00:12:15.000He then reminds him that in this instance, only one player holds the Trump card, and that's me.
00:12:18.000May not be fair, but it's the reality because I'm the only one putting on and putting an entire family legacy on the line.
00:12:24.000Joe Biden claims he had never discussed his son's business, but of course, there was that May 2017 expectations letter, including that 10% for, quote, unquote, the big guy.
00:12:31.000In one text, Hunter said, quote, my chairman gave an emphatic no to a version of the deal.
00:12:36.000Bobulinski suggested that the chairman referred to Joe Biden.
00:12:40.000The deal fell through on the Chinese end in the summer of 2017.
00:12:43.000So, is it possible that Hunter was freelancing?
00:12:46.000That he was going around, that Joe had spent years basically patting him on the head, telling him to go pick up bags of cash if it could help him, and that now Joe is out of office and Hunter wanted to help him out, so he was freelancing, and every so often he would run something by Joe.
00:13:08.000Nobody in the media wants to talk about this story at all.
00:13:11.000They don't find it interesting or fascinating at all that Joe Biden has, throughout his career, engaged in sort of the low-level corruption that many public officials do, right?
00:13:19.000Getting sweetheart mortgages and that sort of thing.
00:13:21.000Well, or at least a sweetheart land deal from people who are interested in some of the legislation on the table when he was in the Senate.
00:13:28.000And NPR put out an actual statement before the denial, before the denial from the Biden campaign.
00:13:34.000Here's what NPR's public editor said, quote, we don't want to waste our time on stories that are not really stories.
00:13:39.000And we don't want to waste listeners and readers time on stories that are just pure distraction.
00:13:44.000That is a taxpayer funded journalistic institution openly declaring that they simply will not engage, that they are not interested whatsoever in the story preemptively.
00:13:55.000So the media, I mean, so all of this is the lead up to the debate, right?
00:13:57.000The media are obviously and clearly on the side of Joe Biden, which means that the debate, the stakes are really high because now this is basically the last chance for Trump to set the table, for Trump to change the topic, and for Trump to shift the course of the race.
00:14:11.000Now, members of the media, again, it wasn't just NPR, many members of the media were over and over declaring that the Hunter Biden story was not, in fact, a story.
00:14:19.000They kept declaring without any evidence whatsoever that it was Russian disinformation.
00:14:22.000So NBC's Hallie Jackson, she actually just continued to say that this is Russian disinformation.
00:14:26.000There is no information this is Russian disinformation at this point.
00:14:29.000The DNI, John Ratcliffe, has openly denied that the Hunter Biden emails are Russian disinformation.
00:14:33.000By the way, no one has yet suggested that the Hunter Biden emails and texts are fake because they are not, as it turns out.
00:16:03.000He's never been asked a question that's hard.
00:16:06.000Okay, and then Leslie Stahl went out of her way to defend Hunter Biden and suggest there was nothing to any of the allegations, like in the middle of the interview with Trump, which is, you know, heavy journalism in here.
00:16:15.000I think it's one of the biggest scandals I've ever seen, and you don't cover it.
00:16:20.000You want to talk about... Well, because it can't be verified.
00:16:22.000You want to talk about insignificant things.
00:16:37.000Trump is exactly right here, of course.
00:16:38.000Okay, so this is the burden for Trump going into the debate, is that he has to fight not just Joe Biden, who really has been able to hide out in his basement the entire campaign.
00:16:46.000He has to fight a media that overtly wishes to see him lose.
00:16:49.000They're very obvious that they don't wish to cover anything that has to do with Joe Biden.
00:17:13.000It was a very different Trump who showed up to the debate last night than the first debate.
00:17:17.000In the first debate, he wanted to be aggressive, but because, I think, as I had mentioned in the past week and a half, Ever since the Commission on Presidential Debate announced they were going to mute the mics, I thought that was actually very good for Trump because it essentially cudgeled him into doing what he should have been doing anyway, which is let Joe Biden talk and then pick him apart after Joe Biden talks.
00:17:35.000And that happened repeatedly last night.
00:17:37.000This is a much better debate for President Trump.
00:17:39.000I thought the first debate was basically a disaster area for him.
00:17:42.000I thought it underscored all the worst things about him.
00:17:43.000The debate last night allowed him to highlight aspects of his record that were good.
00:17:46.000It allowed him to really badger Joe Biden when he needed to badger Joe Biden about the fact that Joe Biden is a career politician who happens to be low-level corrupt and has been for a very, very long time.
00:17:57.000It allowed him to point out that Joe Biden has been useless for five decades in the Senate and then as Vice President.
00:18:05.000Now, it would have been better if the moderator had actually allowed there to be talk of foreign policy, because foreign policy has actually been Trump's strong suit.
00:18:11.000There were a few aspects of foreign policy that got touched on, but overall, a much, much better showing for Trump.
00:18:16.000Every memorable moment of the debate last night was a Trump moment.
00:18:21.000But that's just because he was talking over Biden the whole time.
00:18:24.000And the most memorable moment of that debate was probably Biden telling him to shut up.
00:18:28.000In this debate, the memorable moments all came from Trump, and they all left Biden wrong-footed and on the defense.
00:18:34.000So, the first question to be asked about the debate is number one, whether it could possibly make a difference.
00:18:38.000The polls after the debate, for what they are worth, showed not a lot of movement.
00:18:42.000That's not a great shock, but I don't think that the debate for Trump was really so much about getting independents to vote for him rather than to Biden.
00:18:49.000I think what it was about was making Republicans more comfortable voting for him.
00:18:54.000So I put out this video a week ago now, talking about why I was going to vote for Trump.
00:18:59.000And I laid forth three reasons why I was going to vote for Trump.
00:19:01.000The first reason was because Trump has governed much more conservative than I thought he was.
00:19:06.000The second reason, which is the one under dispute, is I said that most of the damage or all of the damage that I think Trump has done to the public discourse and to the social fabric through his personality, the damage is already done and it can't be undone.
00:19:17.000So there is no point in not voting for him.
00:19:36.000Trump contained himself because as Guy Benson, my friend Guy Benson over at townhall.com and Fox News has said, my second point was the one that people, some people on the right quibble with, right?
00:19:45.000Some of the people have not yet quote unquote come home for Trump.
00:19:48.000They'll say, well, yeah, but I'm still too uncomfortable with Trump to vote for him.
00:19:56.000Trump made people feel more comfortable on the right last night.
00:20:00.000Independents are still going to feel uncomfortable with him.
00:20:02.000But overall, Trump's personality last night.
00:20:05.000His willingness to discuss his own record last night, it was so much better.
00:20:09.000And it made people, I think, who are hesitant to vote for Trump, but were going to vote for Trump if forced to the choice.
00:20:14.000They'd vote for Trump over Biden, but they were hesitant to actually go out to the polls.
00:20:17.000I think now they will be more enthusiastic about going out to the polls.
00:20:19.000And that may make a huge difference in a lot of these very, very tight swing states.
00:20:23.000Again, the swing states right now are still extremely tight.
00:20:25.000The national race seems like it is a quote unquote runaway, although it looks like the numbers are starting to drop a little bit.
00:20:31.000For Joe Biden, the RealClearPolitics national average has now dropped below 8% for the first time in several weeks.
00:20:36.000And there are several polls showing this thing very close.
00:20:39.000There's an IBD-TIPP poll that came out yesterday showing Biden up only four.
00:20:45.000There's a Rasmussen report poll that came out the day before showing Biden up only three.
00:20:49.000There are other reports from Economist and Reuters that still have Biden up nine or ten.
00:20:53.000But you're starting to see more of these sort of outline polls.
00:20:55.000There's a Hill-Harris poll that showed Biden up only four.
00:20:58.000There are a few outline polls that are starting to show just glimmers, just glimmers, that perhaps Trump isn't down all that far nationally.
00:21:05.000And in the States, he is not down all that far.
00:21:08.000If you look at North Carolina, it's basically within margin of error.
00:21:16.000If you look at Arizona, Arizona, there's a poll yesterday that showed that essentially it was a one point race in Arizona, meaning within margin of error instead, even in Arizona.
00:21:26.000I had on poster Kristen Soltis Anderson on the radio show yesterday, and she sort of laid forth the various scenarios by which Trump could win.
00:21:35.000She said there's basically two sets of states to watch.
00:21:38.000There's the Sun Belts and then there's the Rust Belt states.
00:21:41.000I'll explain what to watch in just one second.
00:21:43.000First, let's talk for a second about it's pretty obvious when you don't get a good night's rest.
00:21:47.000So last night I did not get a good night's rest.
00:21:49.000I was up till very, very late covering the debate.
00:21:52.000Then I was up very, very early this morning.
00:21:53.000That means on the moments in between when my young daughter was not waking me up to have yet another bottle because she is a growing and babbling baby.
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00:23:23.000If things really change, just three points maybe, then you could see Trump picking that up and then you can see poll error playing with the rest.
00:23:30.000So Trump needs to make a move in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania.
00:23:33.000In Arizona, as I've said, he's running very close.
00:24:16.000The debate opened with talk about COVID.
00:24:19.000So this is always a topic that is going to be a problem for Trump, simply because no matter who's president of the United States, if a bunch of people die while you're president of the United States, people tend to blame you.
00:24:28.000We have this very paganistic view in the United States of what the president can do.
00:24:30.000If the economy is bad, it's the president's fault.
00:24:32.000If the economy is good, it's the president's credit.
00:24:34.000If people die, it's the president's fault.
00:24:36.000If people don't die, it's to the president's credit.
00:24:38.000It's this bizarre sort of And this is where Biden really looked to make hay early on in the debate.
00:24:44.000So the truth is that Trump's first answer on COVID was pretty good, right?
00:24:46.000make everything better at a moment's notice. So if there is a pandemic and it kills 200,000 people, obviously that's not going to redound to the benefit of the president. And this is where Biden really looked to make hay early on in the debate. So the truth is that Trump's first answer on COVID was pretty good, right? He could have expressed it more smoothly, but his general take was, listen, this has been bad.
00:25:08.000It's also a global pandemic and pretending that we did anything that is sort of an outlying policy or that we blew it in some serious way.
00:25:14.000I mean, I need to see some evidence of that.
00:26:27.000If Donald Trump had not been president, everything would have been hunky-dory here in the United States, which is weird because it turns out that a lot of places where Democrats are in charge, lots and lots of people died.
00:26:35.000In fact, on a death-per-million basis, virtually all of the worst states, in terms of who was hardest hit, were Democratic states.
00:27:04.000I can't express how immoral I think it is to suggest that the President of the United States is responsible for every single person who dies while they are President of the United States from a global pandemic that has taken hundreds of thousands of lives all across the world.
00:27:15.000But here is Joe Biden making that suggestion anyway.
00:27:20.000If you hear nothing else I say tonight, hear this.
00:27:25.000Anyone who's responsible for not taking control In fact, not saying I take no responsibility initially.
00:27:34.000Anyone who's responsible for that many deaths should not remain as President of the United States of America.
00:27:39.000If we just wore these masks, the President's own advisors have told him, we could save 100,000 lives.
00:27:46.000This is the same fellow who told you this is going to end by Easter last time.
00:27:49.000This is the same fellow who told you that, don't worry, we're going to end this by the summer.
00:27:53.000We're about to go into a dark winter, a dark winter.
00:27:57.000And he has no clear plan and there's no prospect that there's going to be a vaccine available for the majority of the American people before the middle of next year.
00:28:05.000OK, so if Trump ends up winning the election in a week and a half, one big reason is going to be because people don't want the doom and gloom.
00:28:11.000They don't want to hear the doom and gloom.
00:28:13.000That is doom and gloom stuff there from Joe Biden.
00:28:15.000There's not going to be a vaccine until the middle of next year.
00:28:20.000If everybody just wore the mask, it would have saved 100,000 lives, which, again, I have serious doubts as to whether that is in fact the case, considering that if you look at the actual data, what you see is that when there were spikes, people put on the masks.
00:28:32.000Virtually everywhere in the United States, red states, blue states, as soon as there were spikes, people put on the masks.
00:28:36.000And by the way, in Italy, the masking is really heavy and they're seeing a second surge in cases anyway.
00:28:40.000And so Joe Biden is preaching doom and gloom, right?
00:28:44.000Trump is not preaching doom and gloom.
00:28:46.000And so this is where I think Trump started to make, hey, he started to turn the tide, I thought, about 15 minutes into this discussion when he started talking about lockdown policy.
00:28:56.000And Biden didn't wanna hear anything about it, right?
00:28:59.000Biden doesn't wanna hear that we're gonna reopen.
00:31:23.000But if the polls are wrong, it's because they're underestimating the amount that Americans are sick and tired of hearing from Democrats how many Americans are going to die at Trump's hands, and that we can never go back to regular life, and that we will be wearing masks for the rest of eternity, and that our businesses will be locked down.
00:31:39.000If there is a brewing underground against lockdown culture, it's going to manifest in the election.
00:31:50.000Joe Biden, for his part, he denied he was going to shut down the country, but then he suggested he's going to shut down the virus, not the country.
00:31:56.000He said, I'm going to shut down the virus, but he's made no actual plan as to how he's going to shut down the virus.
00:32:01.000I understand he can hold up a little cloth mask, but guess what?
00:32:04.000Again, masking is really prevalent in Europe.
00:32:06.000At least in France, Germany, Italy, they're experiencing a second wave.
00:32:10.000There are blue areas that were hit really hard the first time that are experiencing a second wave.
00:32:15.000So Biden's plan to quote unquote shut down the virus, it's not a plan at all.
00:32:21.000Everything that he says is his plan is actually Trump's plan.
00:32:23.000Here is Biden saying that he's going to shut down the virus, not the country, but then admitting that he has not ruled out more shutdowns.
00:32:30.000I'm going to shut down the virus, not the country.
00:32:33.000It's his ineptitude that caused the country to have to shut down in large part.
00:32:38.000Why businesses have gone under, why schools are closed, those other concerns are real.
00:32:42.000That's why he should have been, instead of in a sand trap in his golf course, he should have been negotiating with Nancy Pelosi and the rest of the Democrats and Republicans about what to do about the acts they were passing for billions of dollars to make sure people had the capacity.
00:32:56.000But you haven't ruled out more shutdowns?
00:33:09.000All day long, he just talks about shutdowns.
00:33:10.000Democrats keep talking about shutdowns.
00:33:12.000We have to open everything, is what Trump says.
00:33:14.000That may be a vision that Americans are going to embrace, particularly if you have kids.
00:33:17.000And Democrats keep talking about shutting down the schools.
00:33:20.000I can tell you on a first-hand level, My kids were in Zoom school from March all the way until like the last two weeks.
00:33:26.000The radical difference in their lives, in our life, since they've been able to go to school because we are now in Florida, it's a radical difference.
00:34:14.000And he wants to close down, he'll close down the country if one person in our massive bureaucracy says we should close it down.
00:34:23.000Okay, so that was, again, I thought that the conversation, which turned quickly from Trump's rhetoric to what's going to happen from here on in, that conversation certainly benefits Trump.
00:34:33.000And then you got to a very weird Biden statement to sort of conclude that conversation, in which Biden suggested, I mean, now he's not just cribbing from Neil Kinnock, like back in the 1980s.
00:34:42.000Now he's just cribbing from his boss's playbook, right?
00:34:44.000He's just ripping off Barack Obama's playbook.
00:34:47.000He does this, there are no blue states, there are no red states, but also the red states suck.
00:36:02.000First, let's talk about the fact that right now is a terrible time to go to the auto parts store.
00:36:05.000In fact, you know what's a terrible time to go to the auto parts store?
00:36:08.000Any time on a calendar or on your watch.
00:36:10.000That is because auto parts stores, you're gonna go there, They're gonna ask you very specific questions, you're not gonna know the answer, they're gonna get a generic part that isn't great, or they're gonna order a part online that now takes a week and a half to reach you and then they'll upcharge you for having done the ordering themselves.
00:36:23.000Or, theoretically, you could just order it yourself and cut out the middleman and save money.
00:37:47.000The CDC didn't say it was airborne until, like, July.
00:37:49.000In any case, Joe Biden suggested that Trump somehow concocted this bizarre Wall Street scheme where he knew that COVID was going to be really bad.
00:37:58.000And so he told all of his Wall Street buddies, but not the American people, so they could short sell the market.
00:38:02.000And Trump came right back at him pretty strong.
00:38:04.000Here was the Trump versus Biden exchange.
00:38:07.000He didn't want to tell us because he didn't want us to panic.
00:38:14.000In the meantime, we found out in the New York Times the other day that, in fact, his folks went to Wall Street and said, this is a really dangerous thing.
00:38:21.000And a memo out of that meeting, not from his administration, but from some of the brokers, said, sell short.
00:38:27.000You're the one that takes all the money from Wall Street.
00:39:21.000In fact, some of the stuff that he said was an overestimation of the truth, to put it kindly.
00:39:26.000That is particularly true when he was talking about business deals in which Hunter engaged.
00:39:30.000He kind of corrected himself as he went on.
00:39:32.000He said that it went to the Biden family, which is a vague way of sort of implying that Joe was involved without overtly saying that Joe was involved.
00:39:38.000At one point, he actually said that Joe had received direct cash from the Russian government, for example.
00:39:44.000If the goal here was to throw as much mud as possible at Joe Biden in an attempt to get people to be a little bit less enthusiastic about Biden, feel like he's just kind of, you know, maybe this was aimed at the Bernie bros a little bit.
00:39:56.000Trump did this to Hillary last time too.
00:39:58.000It was like she was taking Wall Street speeches and she was a corruptocrat and all of this.
00:40:02.000He did some of the same stuff to Joe Biden yesterday.
00:40:07.000So this this particular conversation started off with Joe Biden saying that he was going to take on Putin, which is just absurd on its face.
00:40:14.000I mean, he was part of an administration that overtly allowed Russia to take over policymaking in Syria that allowed Russia to invade Crimea.
00:40:23.000He was part of an administration that removed some of the defense capabilities of Eastern European countries.
00:40:32.000Obama administration was awful with regard to Russia.
00:40:33.000But here was Joe Biden just lying about that because he did tell an awful lot of lies last night.
00:40:39.000Everything that's going on here about Russia is wanting to make sure that I do not get elected the next president of the United States because they know I know them, and they know me.
00:40:50.000I don't understand why this president is unwilling to take on Putin.
00:40:54.000Okay, again, the Trump administration policy is significantly harsher on Russia than anything Obama ever did.
00:41:00.000In just one second, we'll get to Trump's counterattack, which again was this line, which is, Joe Biden is corrupt.
00:41:08.000Again, the fact checkers are gonna have a field day with some of the claims that Trump made here, because again, some of the claims that Trump made here are just not right.
00:41:14.000But the overall implication, right, which Trump was trying to make here, which is that the Bidens have been trading on the family name to enrich members of the Biden family, that is certainly true.
00:41:22.000Okay, we'll get to that in one second.
00:41:24.000Biden did not really have a good defense for it, and Trump hammered it a lot last night.
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00:45:14.000Okay, so Trump had a couple of messages.
00:45:21.000First message, Biden is Captain Lockdown.
00:45:24.000He's never going to let you out of lockdown.
00:45:26.000And honestly, Given how Democrats are governing, not super wrong.
00:45:30.000They're still talking about school shutdowns when the data on school shutdowns is available and it demonstrates school shutdowns are a very bad idea.
00:45:35.000Second message Trump was trying to promote last night is that Biden is a longtime corrupt politician.
00:45:53.000Here's Trump, clip 23, talking about Joe Biden and receiving money from foreign sources, or at least his family doing so.
00:46:02.000Joe got $3.5 million from Russia, and it came through Putin because he was very friendly with the former mayor of Moscow, and it was the mayor of Moscow's wife.
00:46:24.000I have not taken a penny from any foreign source ever in my life.
00:46:29.000We learned that this president paid 50 times the tax in China, has a secret bank account with China, does business in China, and, in fact, is talking about me taking money?
00:46:41.000I have not taken a single penny from any country whatsoever, ever.
00:47:55.000If you're watching this debate, and this is the first time you're hearing any of this, This does change your impression of Joe Biden just a little bit.
00:48:02.000Because it turns out that Joe Biden actually overstated his defense of all of this.
00:48:06.000And there is something deeply suspicious about the fact that in American politics, and it is more typical of all politicians, that in American politics, you enter office, middle class or poor, and you leave office rich.
00:48:40.000It's based on a total portfolio of $4 million in real estate, cash investments worth $4 million, and a federal pension worth more than a million bucks.
00:48:47.000So that seems like a pretty good living for somebody who spends his entire career in government.
00:49:02.000But that's kind of the point is that Joe Biden is a typical swamp creature and he has been a swamp creature for a very long time.
00:49:06.000Right here is and is also true, by the way, that there is very solid evidence that all of Joe Biden's family members have made an awful lot of money off of Joe Biden's name over the course of Joe Biden's career.
00:49:16.000Here was Trump going after Biden again on this.
00:49:18.000I was put through a phony witch hunt for three years.
00:50:23.000But again, there are serious questions to be asked about why it is that every member of our public coterie goes into office poor and leaves office rich.
00:50:32.000This did lead Joe Biden to actually overtly say something that is not true.
00:50:45.000I don't see any evidence that Joe Biden violated the law.
00:50:47.000When he says that Hunter never did anything unethical, there you start to really... I mean, Hunter admitted on national TV that he used his daddy's name to traffic in Ukraine so that he could make a buttload of money.
00:50:56.000I mean, that is overtly... When he says Hunter never did anything unethical, now Joe Biden has linked himself with Hunter.
00:51:30.000a month. Listen to this. 183. And they gave him a $3 million upfront payment. All right.
00:51:36.000And he had no energy. I'm going to let the vice president get to a question to you. Very low basis for that. Everybody investigated that. No one said anything he did was wrong in Ukraine. Nobody said that anything Hunter Biden did in Ukraine was wrong. There's a difference in legally wrong. And I'm using my VP daddy's name to make bank on a natural gas company in Burisma while my dad is in charge of Ukraine policy.
00:51:57.000In fact, there were members of the... I mean, that's overtly false.
00:52:00.000The State Department warned the Obama administration that this looked corrupt, and people were told, don't talk to Joe about it because he's too concerned about what's going on with Beau, because Beau at the time was suffering from brain cancer.
00:53:20.000Chris Christie, Marco Rubio, they were in a debate, and Christie committed the world's first political murder-suicide.
00:53:26.000He was already basically done with the race, and so he just took out Rubio.
00:53:29.000Rubio had a shot at taking out Trump in New Hampshire, and Christie looked at Rubio and said, What you're going to say right now is that, make no mistake, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:53:36.000And then Rubio came back and said, make no mistake, blah, blah, blah.
00:53:39.000And everyone, oh, boom, Christie called you up.
00:53:42.000OK, that tactic is the most obnoxious tactic.
00:53:44.000When somebody goes faux sincere, when a serious issue is being discussed and then suddenly the candidate turns to the camera and says, the American people don't want to hear this.
00:53:53.000The American people want to hear about the things that affect them.
00:53:56.000For Trump to call that out and be like, Joe, you're so full of crap.
00:53:58.000I mean, honestly, you wrote like we're in the middle of a conversation about family corruption, and now you're going to do the kitchen table.
00:55:47.000She was like, Amy Coney Barrett is being nominated for the Supreme Court.
00:55:50.000There's an Obamacare case before the Supreme Court.
00:55:52.000This is why Democrats oppose Amy Coney Barrett.
00:55:53.000It's like, no, that is not why Democrats oppose Amy Coney Barrett.
00:55:56.000Nonetheless, the conversation turned to health care.
00:55:59.000And as the debate went on, Biden started to drop more and more whoppers.
00:56:02.000So the whopper of the night was this one.
00:56:04.000So Biden was talking about Obamacare and his new plan, which is a public option.
00:56:09.000Now, let it be known, a public option only works.
00:56:12.000So the public option is not just for people who are not able to obtain private health insurance.
00:56:16.000You're allowed to opt into the private option, into the public option, which means that one of two things has to happen with the public option in order for people to want to opt into it.
00:56:24.000One, you have to undermine public insurance, private insurance rather, or two, you have to subsidize public insurance.
00:56:30.000So either you have to mandate the doctors take the public insurance, You have to mandate that doctors take a crappier form of insurance and reimbursement, or you have to subsidize the public option insurance such that it is actually better than private insurance, but you're doing it with taxpayer dollars and you run private insurance out of business.
00:56:46.000Everybody who takes this seriously understands the public options are generally designed to run private industry into the ground.
00:56:54.000They allow for the possibility of supplemental insurance, specialty insurance.
00:57:00.000But when it comes to overall private health insurance, everybody understands that a public option is designed as a first step toward getting rid of your private health insurance plans.
00:57:09.000Because either you have to restrict doctors so that they must take public insurance, in which case it's cheaper for me not to pay for my private insurance through my employer and just take the public option, or they have to subsidize the public option, in which case it is cheaper for me to go and take the public option.
00:57:45.000In 2013, the left-wing fact-checking site PolitiFact declared it was their lie of the year when Barack Obama said that nobody would lose their health insurance plan under Obamacare.
00:57:53.000And yet here is Joe Biden repeating it, nonetheless.
00:57:56.000As you will see, the fact-checkers after the debate, they assured us that Joe Biden is just, he's a nice old guy who barely ever lies.
00:58:01.000This is just, here he is repeating maybe the great lie of the decade.
00:58:06.000What I'm gonna do is pass Obamacare with a public option.
00:58:12.000The public option is an option that says that if you in fact do not have the wherewithal to be, if you qualify for Medicaid and you do not have the wherewithal in your state to get Medicaid, you automatically are enrolled, providing competition for insurance companies.
00:58:28.000Secondly, we're going to make sure we reduce the premiums and reduce drug prices.
00:58:33.000by making sure that there's competition that doesn't exist now by allowing the Medicare to negotiate drug prices with the insurance companies.
00:58:43.000Thirdly, the idea that I want to eliminate private insurance.
00:58:47.000The reason why I had such a fight for with 20 candidates for the nomination was I support private insurance.
00:58:56.000That's why I did not one single person with private insurance So he's lying about his own policy and he's lying about Obamacare.
00:59:08.000His policy does not merely relegate public option to people who cannot obtain private insurance.
00:59:13.000It allows anybody to opt into the public option.
00:59:16.000Okay, this opened up the final line of attack for Trump.
00:59:20.000So there were three lines of attack for Trump last night.
00:59:22.000One is that Joe Biden is lockdown king.
01:00:06.000He's talking about destroying your Medicare, totally destroying, and destroying your Social Security, and this whole country will come down.
01:00:14.000You know, Bernie Sanders tried it in his state.
01:00:16.000He thinks he's running against somebody else.
01:00:20.000I beat all those other people because I disagreed with them.
01:00:24.000OK, well, I'm enjoying Joe Biden face planting Bernie Sanders, like giving him the swirly, sticking his face in the toilet and flushing it, which is exactly what Biden is doing right there.
01:00:31.000He's saying, I don't agree with Bernie.
01:03:36.000OK, then the debate turned to illegal immigration.
01:03:40.000And there are a lot of people last night who started to put out misinformation on what Trump actually said on the stage.
01:03:45.000So there is a lot of talk about the story of some 500 kids who were separated from their parents at the border because the way the law works is that either you have to release the entire family into the interior of the United States, or you have to separate the kids from the parents, right?
01:03:59.000That is according to Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals law.
01:04:01.000So when they talk about forced family separation, the idea, I mean, there was an actual settlement, it's called the Flores Settlement, and it was put into place years and years and years ago.
01:04:09.000The basic idea is that you were not allowed to hold parents and children in custody, right?
01:04:13.000You either had to separate the two by allowing the kids to be placed with other adults outside of custody and you keep the parents there, or you have to release everybody into the interior.
01:04:24.000So, this came up last night because it turns out that it's been difficult to reunify these kids with their parents.
01:04:31.000Well, in some cases, it's difficult to reunify them with their parents because some of the people who are bringing them over were not, in fact, their parents, right?
01:04:46.000And then the kids have no adult to actually be with.
01:04:49.000It's not as though their parents came across with them.
01:04:51.000In some cases, apparently the parents were deported and the government is trying to find the parents so the kids can be reunified with the parents in the first place.
01:04:58.000But the kids are living presumably with family members or in conditions provided by the American federal government.
01:05:08.000One is you can either release everybody into the interior of the country and the other is you can engage in this forced family separation policy.
01:05:14.000The Trump administration has started releasing people into the interior of the country more because they didn't like the bad press.
01:05:22.000And it started to look bad for Trump here because whenever there's a human issue that tugs at the heartstrings and it looks like you're on the wrong side, people start to get very angry at you.
01:05:33.000But Trump immediately flipped this and it was a bad moment for Joe Biden because the reality is that Joe Biden and Barack Obama initiated family separation policy during their administration.
01:05:42.000Here was Donald Trump going after Joe Biden.
01:05:47.000Children are brought here by coyotes and lots of bad people, cartels.
01:05:53.000And they're brought here, and they used to use them to get into our country.
01:05:57.000We now have as strong a border as we've ever had.
01:06:00.000We're over 400 miles of brand-new wall.
01:06:30.000Okay, and that was the big question, right?
01:06:32.000And Joe couldn't answer it because the fact is that it was the Obama administration that built the cages.
01:06:36.000And then Biden kept going on about all the things he was going to do with regard to illegal immigration, and Trump went back to, again, that third theme, which is that Joe Biden has been in government forever and never did anything about any of this stuff.
01:06:48.000He had eight years to do what he said he was going to do.
01:06:52.000And I've changed without having a specific.
01:07:44.000When you say they come back, they don't come back, Joe.
01:07:46.000Those with the lowest IQ, they might come back.
01:07:49.000What he's telling you is simply not true.
01:07:51.000Okay, so, it isn't true that only 1% of people show up for their court date.
01:07:54.000Most people, apparently, about 50% of people, 75% of people, by various estimates, show up for that initial court date.
01:08:01.000The problem is, there's a secondary court date that is set, and usually that never comes to pass.
01:08:05.000So, the 1% statistic is not coming from a place that I can verify, for sure.
01:08:10.000But, it is true, the catch and release policy is a garbage policy, and it has released not 11 million illegal immigrants into the center of the country, it has released many, many more illegal immigrants Probably closer to 15 or 20 million illegal immigrants in the country at this point.
01:08:24.000But again, Trump's main point here, which is that Joe Biden, he keeps promising things and he's been in the government forever.
01:08:46.000And again, he's been in government 47 years.
01:08:49.000He never did a thing, except in 1994, when he did such harm to the black community.
01:08:56.000And they were called, and he called them, super predators.
01:08:59.000Nobody has done more for the black community than Donald Trump.
01:09:04.000And if you look, with the exception of Abraham Lincoln, possible exception, but the exception of Abraham Lincoln, nobody has done what I've done.
01:09:14.000Okay, this culminated with a very, very weak exchange for Joe Biden, right?
01:09:21.000All of this, this third line of attack that Biden's been in government forever and never done anything.
01:09:25.000This culminated in a really terrible moment, I thought, for Joe Biden.
01:09:30.000Okay, this is where Biden tries to explain how he was wrong about all of his criminal justice policies.
01:09:37.000Now, what's hilarious about this is that he actually was not wrong about all of his criminal justice policies.
01:09:40.000One of his only signal career accomplishments was actually lowering the crime rate via the 1994 crime bill and via some of the drug bills in the 1980s.
01:09:46.000The crack epidemic was horrible in the 1980s.
01:09:49.000The crime epidemic was horrible in the early 90s.
01:09:51.000But he has to run directly away from that because his own party hates it.
01:09:54.000So here was Joe Biden explaining what he's going to do now.
01:09:57.000And Trump again hammers him with, OK, so why didn't you do it?
01:11:26.000For the first two years of the Barack Obama administration, not only did Democrats have a majority in the House, they had a super majority in the Senate.
01:11:33.000They had a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate.
01:11:35.000For the first two years of the Obama administration, that's how they got Obamacare done.
01:11:39.000They didn't lose the House until 2010 and they didn't lose the Senate until 2014.
01:12:19.000So Trump is hammering him on fracking.
01:12:21.000Trump is just saying, you said that you want to ban fracking.
01:12:24.000And Biden's like, no, I said I want to ban it on federal lands.
01:12:25.000He's actually said, Broadly speaking, that he does want to ban fracking.
01:12:29.000And then he said, oh, yeah, by the way, I only meant federal lands.
01:12:32.000But there's I mean, there's tape of him saying over and over and over again that he would like to transition away from fracking or ban fracking or end fracking.
01:12:38.000Then he'll say, well, I'll just do it on federal lands.
01:12:41.000Trump gets him to admit in this clip that he wants to end the oil industry, that he wants to destroy the entire oil industry in the United States that is responsible for millions and millions of jobs.
01:12:53.000If you don't think this is going to be an issue in Pennsylvania, wrong you are.
01:12:55.000Here was Trump getting Biden to admit that he wishes to kill the entire oil industry of the United States.
01:13:00.000By the way, we just became energy independent because of fracking in the oil industry.
01:13:05.000Would you close down the oil industry?
01:13:06.000I would transition from the oil industry, yes.
01:15:49.000Basically, everybody on the Democratic side had to start reversing their own positions and or lying.
01:15:53.000Okay, so Frank Luntz had a focus group last night.
01:15:58.000That focus group described I feel like a lot of that is accurate.
01:16:02.000According to Frank Luntz's focus group, the words to describe Trump were controlled, reserved, poised, con artist and surprisingly presidential.
01:16:09.000The words to describe Biden were vague, unspecific, elusive, defensive and grandfatherly.
01:16:14.000I feel like a lot of that is accurate and those are not words that really bear in Joe Biden's favor.
01:16:22.000OK, so how do you know that Biden lost?
01:16:25.000Because number one, when the media declared a draw, that means Biden lost.
01:16:28.000Number two, you have people like Joy Reid suddenly flipping and defending the 1994 crime bill.
01:16:32.000So Joy Reid hates the 1994 crime bill on MSNBC, but she recognizes that she must defend the precious Joe Biden.
01:16:38.000And so here she was defending the 1994 crime bill all of a sudden.
01:16:46.000But let's just remember that there are a lot of African American elected officials, including in Congress, who voted for the crime bill and who wanted the crime bill.
01:16:54.000The context was the crack epidemic was tearing through black communities and black pastors were demanding a bill.
01:17:01.000He put that bill together that also included an assault weapons ban.
01:17:05.000It also included the Violence Against Women Act.
01:18:06.000Jake Tapper was beside himself last night on CNN.
01:18:09.000He said it was the dirtiest campaign ever.
01:18:12.000He is running the single most negative, sleazy campaign in American history for a major party candidate.
01:18:21.000The campaign that Trump and his allies in the media and members of his family and the Trump-allied websites and such are leveling with charges so heinous I'm not even going to say them.
01:18:44.000And so beneath what this election should be.
01:18:49.000All right, so bottom line, is this gonna make a huge difference in the future of the presidential campaign?
01:18:54.000I don't think it'll make an enormous difference to the future of the presidential campaign.
01:18:57.000I do think that marginal differences, particularly in swing states, are gonna matter an awful, awful lot.
01:19:03.000If the polls tighten in the last week, as you would generally expect them to, then it will be seen that this debate mattered.
01:19:10.000It didn't necessarily matter to people who were partisans.
01:19:14.000There aren't a lot of people who are on the fence, but if it made some people less uncomfortable about voting Trump, then it did him a world of good and it shifted the terms of the debate because the last week is going to be all about Joe Biden declaring that he wants an end to the oil industry.
01:19:25.000I mean, that is going to be the Trump campaign because they need Pennsylvania.
01:19:29.000That is going to be the Trump campaign for the next week.
01:19:32.000Okay, quick Bible note since it is a Friday and I feel like ending on an up note.
01:19:36.000We've gone back to doing Bible sections here on The Ben Shapiro Show because we restarted the reading of the Torah every year we do this.
01:19:43.000So, this week's Parsha, this week's Torah portion, is the Parsha of Noah.
01:19:55.000He says to Noah, why don't you preserve your family and preserve all the animals and Noah builds the ark and the animals come in two by two and all of that.
01:20:04.000So there's one particular verse that's kind of fascinating because it does have a lot of relevance to how we think of ourselves and what our mission is today.
01:20:30.000Because theoretically, if he was perfect, it wouldn't just be in his time.
01:20:34.000So is that a compliment or is that a derogatory?
01:20:37.000If you say that somebody is great in their time, that can mean one of two things.
01:20:41.000One, the time is really awful, so the fact that they were great in that awful time means they were even greater than they normally would be.
01:20:46.000You're a great person living in Nazi Germany?
01:20:48.000Well, by contrast, you're even greater because you were living in an awful, awful time.
01:20:52.000Or does it mean that you were great compared to the other people of your time, and since they sucked, you were better than they were, but if you put them in like a normal time, they'd be kind of normal.
01:20:59.000There's actually a debate among Jewish commentators.
01:21:02.000I tend to come down on the side that suggests that it is better to be great overall than to be great in your time.
01:21:08.000So God tells Noah, I'm destroying all of humanity, right?
01:21:10.000in your time. What separates Noah from the other characters of the Bible? So God tells Noah I'm destroying all of humanity, right? It's over. Here comes the flood. And Noah does not respond the same way that Abraham or Moses do.
01:21:22.000So Abraham is told by God that he's going to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah.
01:21:26.000And Abraham's first response is, let me argue with you.
01:21:28.000Let's think this one out a little bit, right?
01:21:30.000Let's try and identify, are there any good people who are living in Sodom and Gomorrah?
01:21:35.000Can we find anybody there who's good, for whose sake it's worth preserving the entire city?
01:21:39.000He argues with God, he has a moral debate with God.
01:21:42.000Moses is informed by God at one point that God is so angry he's going to destroy the entire Jewish people and he's going to make a nation of Moses and his kids.
01:21:49.000And Moses argues against that and he says, if you do that, I want you to blot me out of your book.
01:21:52.000Like literally don't have me in your book.
01:21:54.000I'm not interested in what you're talking about here, God.
01:21:59.000Noah, when he is confronted with the possibility of an entire generation being blotted off the face of the earth, he does exactly what God tells him and he doesn't protest.
01:22:11.000If you're going to be a great person for all time, it's not just about being great for yourself or being great for your family or preserving your family or removing yourself from the grid.
01:22:19.000It is about attempting to save the people around you.
01:22:22.000It's about attempting to convince the people around you.
01:22:24.000And this has ramifications for today's politics on the right.
01:22:49.000In our personal lives, I think sometimes you have to go off the ground.
01:22:52.000I don't think Rod is completely wrong.
01:22:55.000But that is being a good person in your generation.
01:22:59.000Being a good person in all generations means fighting back in the public sphere in order to retake those values and convince people of the...
01:23:07.000The veracity of those values and the reality of those values and the importance of those values.
01:23:10.000That's what makes you a good person for all time.
01:23:12.000So we should all strive to be a good, we should strive to be more than Noah was.
01:23:17.000Not just to build the ark and preserve that, which we have, but also to go forth, to shine a light, to be like Abraham, not like Noah, to open our tents to everybody and to try and draw people in to a better way of life and a better philosophy.
01:23:30.000Alrighty, we'll be back here next week for the final week of the presidential campaign of 2020.
01:24:08.000Hey everybody, it's Andrew Klavan, host of The Andrew Klavan Show.
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