The Ben Shapiro Show - The First Real Peace Plan | Ep. 942

00:00:00.000 President Trump unveils his Middle East peace plan, Team Trump concludes its impeachment defense, and panic sets in for Democrats as Bernie closes in on Iowa.

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00:00:21.000 Well, you may have noticed this is a chaotic year already, right?

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00:01:48.000 So we'll get to everything impeachment related in a little bit.

00:01:50.000 We'll also get to everything 2020 related because Bernie Sanders continues to surge and the media continue to pretend that Bernie Sanders is like a normal Democrat as opposed to a flaming communist, a flaming geriatric communist.

00:02:01.000 It's unbelievable that Bernie has never been asked a single question about something as simple as, do you believe that private property is a right?

00:02:08.000 Right now, normally you wouldn't have to ask a candidate that question, but when you're Bernie Sanders and you have spent your entire career calling for the nationalization of all product and the destruction of the profit motive, at a certain point, it seems like it would be worthwhile to ask him whether he believes healthcare is a right, so does he believe private property ownership is a right?

00:02:24.000 Does he believe that it's a right?

00:02:25.000 Seriously, very simple question.

00:02:27.000 Does Bernie Sanders believe?

00:02:29.000 He has said so before.

00:02:30.000 He has said that before.

00:02:31.000 He has said so before.

00:02:32.000 Does he believe that the banks should be nationalized?

00:02:34.000 He has said that before.

00:02:36.000 Does he believe that real estate should be nationalized?

00:02:38.000 He just called for national rent control.

00:02:39.000 National rent control effectively means that if you want new public units built, you're going to have to do it through public funding, which means public housing.

00:02:46.000 So what doesn't he want to nationalize?

00:02:48.000 Like, these would be very simple questions, and you would figure that a guy who came in a very narrow second to Hillary Clinton last time around would have been asked some simple questions, but nobody asked him any simple questions, and so instead you have this pie-in-the-sky nonsense he's been preaching for literally decades, and everybody acting as though this is normal stuff, as though they can pick and choose from his communist poo-poo platter, and that he will then be a normal Democrat

00:03:10.000 Moving forward, don't worry, we'll get to Bernie Sanders in a little while and his surge because that should be frightening both Democrats who are looking straight in the face of radicalization and Republicans because the fact is that yes, Bernie Sanders would be an easier to beat candidate than somebody like Joe Biden, who's basically just a corpse at this point.

00:03:25.000 But with that said, is it a good thing that 45% of the American population would then be radicalized around an openly communist agenda?

00:03:32.000 Probably not.

00:03:33.000 And we'll get to all of that in just a little while.

00:03:35.000 First, we got to talk about this Trump peace plan.

00:03:37.000 So Trump brings out this peace plan yesterday.

00:03:40.000 And his peace plan is effectively very simple.

00:03:42.000 Basically, he acknowledges realities on the ground.

00:03:45.000 That's what this Trump Middle East peace plan is.

00:03:46.000 Now, what you're hearing from the media today is that Trump has changed the game in the Middle East.

00:03:51.000 That Trump has abandoned prospects for peace. 0.69

00:03:54.000 Now, what's hilarious about this is that prospects for peace have sucked always.

00:03:57.000 The reason they have sucked always in the Middle East is because you have one side that would like to wipe the other side off of the map. 1.00

00:04:02.000 Not a lot of prospects for peace over there.

00:04:04.000 See, in order to understand the Middle East conflict, what you have to understand is one very simple truth.

00:04:08.000 Israel has accepted every peace offer that has ever been put in front of it.

00:04:12.000 And every single peace offer has been rejected by the Palestinians and the Arab world generally.

00:04:17.000 Back in 1917, when the Balfour Declaration was first promulgated, that said that there would be a Jewish national home in Palestine, meaning now what would be Jordan as well as Israel.

00:04:28.000 When that was first put out there, the Jews immediately accepted it.

00:04:30.000 The Arabs turned it down. 0.70

00:04:31.000 And when people talk about this vast territory for the Jews, let's be real about this.

00:04:35.000 There are some 58 Arab and Muslim countries on planet Earth.

00:04:39.000 Arab or Muslim countries on planet Earth.

00:04:42.000 All the Arab countries are also Muslim countries.

00:04:44.000 There is one Jewish state on planet Earth.

00:04:46.000 It is tiny.

00:04:47.000 Israel is something like 15,000 square miles.

00:04:49.000 It is extraordinarily small.

00:04:51.000 Israel is half the size of New Jersey in a region that is extraordinarily large.

00:04:55.000 So the idea of a Jewish national home there not only is not any sort of giant Cram down on the Arab population.

00:05:03.000 It is a tiny percentage of the total landmass in the area.

00:05:08.000 And of course, Jews have never stopped living there.

00:05:09.000 There's a historic Jewish tie to the land of Israel.

00:05:12.000 But the reason I'm going back in the history is you need to understand why it is that peace has never happened there.

00:05:16.000 And it ain't because of the Jews. 0.85

00:05:17.000 OK, so the Jews were originally told by the British mandate, by the British, that they were going to get Jordan as well as Israel.

00:05:23.000 OK, then the British sliced off Jordan.

00:05:26.000 Then they sliced off half of Israel. 0.71

00:05:28.000 They sliced away most of Judea and Samaria. 0.97

00:05:30.000 They sliced away half of Jerusalem. 0.94

00:05:32.000 They sliced away the Gaza Strip. 0.81

00:05:34.000 And then the Jews accepted that. 0.89

00:05:36.000 The Jews were like, okay, the UN says that Israel can be a state. 1.00

00:05:40.000 Jerusalem will be an open international city, right?

00:05:42.000 Under the tutelage of the West, right?

00:05:44.000 It will not be, in fact, owned by the Jews or owned by the Arabs.

00:05:47.000 It'll be under the tutelage of the United Nations or whatever.

00:05:50.000 Israel accepts that deal.

00:05:51.000 Accepts it.

00:05:52.000 Granted an indefensible rump state.

00:05:54.000 The borders in 1947 that Israel accepted and that the Arabs rejected has been termed by people living in Israel the Auschwitz borders because they're completely indefensible.

00:06:03.000 Completely.

00:06:04.000 To understand how small Israel is, you have to understand that the borders before 1967 included an area of Israel that is nine miles wide.

00:06:12.000 The distance from our office to the Santa Monica beach.

00:06:15.000 That is the distance.

00:06:16.000 And without traffic.

00:06:18.000 Without traffic you can travel the width of Israel.

00:06:20.000 The width of the state of Israel.

00:06:21.000 You can travel that without traffic in the 47-48 borders.

00:06:24.000 You can travel that in under 15 minutes.

00:06:28.000 That is the width of the entire country in that particular area.

00:06:32.000 If you've never been to Israel, you don't understand the geography, you don't actually understand what's going on, you don't understand how closely everything is packed together.

00:06:38.000 Okay, so Israel accepts that, and the Arabs reject it, and they declare war. 0.57

00:06:42.000 The Saudis, the Jordanians, the Egyptians, the Syrians, they all declare war on this new state The British, who are very much afraid of ticking off the Arabs because they didn't want to drive the Arabs into the arms of the Soviet Union, they refuse to allow Jews to immigrate to British Mandate Palestine.

00:06:58.000 So during World War II, as the Holocaust is happening, the British Mandate is preventing Jews from moving in, specifically because they don't want to tick off the Arabs in the area.

00:07:06.000 The Jews largely go along with that. 0.99

00:07:08.000 Ben-Gurion largely goes along with that in the interest of eventually getting a state.

00:07:12.000 The state is finally granted by the United Nations.

00:07:15.000 And once that happens, the Jews are like, OK, fine, I guess we'll just accept this. 1.00

00:07:18.000 OK, fine.

00:07:19.000 Like, OK, good.

00:07:20.000 At least we have a place to go.

00:07:21.000 At least now there is a Jewish national home. 1.00

00:07:23.000 And the Arabs say no. 0.96

00:07:24.000 OK, this is when all of Judea and Samaria and Jerusalem's international control and the Gaza Strip, all of that is delegated to the Arabs who had pre-67 borders.

00:07:33.000 And the Arabs say no. 0.96

00:07:34.000 And then they launch an annihilation attack on the state of Israel and Israel fights back.

00:07:39.000 Now, in the early stages of that of that war, Arabs are urged by the Arab leadership to flee the area specifically because they're supposed to get out of the way of the onrushing Arab armies that are going to come in and crush the Jews.

00:07:49.000 So 100,000 Palestinian Arabs, Arabs who are living in the British Mandate Palestine and in the Jewish area of what will be the Israeli state of Palestine.

00:07:58.000 The Israeli area of Palestine.

00:08:01.000 100,000 100,000 Arabs flee.

00:08:03.000 Then, as the war progresses, it turns out that a lot of the Arab villages are actually fifth columns operating on behalf of the Arab armies, which is exactly what you would expect because this is an ethnic conflict. 0.53

00:08:13.000 The Arabs are using these as bases of attack against the Jews.

00:08:16.000 They're cutting off supply lines, supply rolls, and the Israelis put into place something called Operation Dalet, which says, we are not going to lock down our tiny army in guarding these villages that are effectively In many cases, a fifth column.

00:08:29.000 Instead, we're going to tell people that they need to leave these villages and move over to the Arab side. 1.00

00:08:35.000 Remember, when the State of Israel is declared, the State of Israel's Declaration of Independence urges the Arab citizens to stay. 1.00

00:08:40.000 It says, stay here.

00:08:41.000 Be part of the work that we are doing.

00:08:44.000 Be part of the state.

00:08:45.000 Ben-Gurion didn't understand why the Arabs are fleeing.

00:08:47.000 He's saying, you can live here.

00:08:48.000 What's the problem?

00:08:49.000 Jews lived as a minority in Arab countries for thousands of years.

00:08:51.000 Why exactly should there not be one Jewish state where Arabs are a minority?

00:08:56.000 And the assumption on the part of the Israeli leadership is that as all the Jews flowed into Israel from the other Arab countries and from Europe, that that would become a minority population, more of a minority population, the Arab population.

00:09:07.000 People flee, and then the Israeli army in the second wave is fighting these battles, and in the middle of war, there's always population turmoil.

00:09:12.000 People always leave to get out of the way of onrushing battles.

00:09:16.000 And the Israeli army can't afford to be locked down, pinned down, trying to defend insurgent campaigns in certain villages, and so they clear the population out.

00:09:23.000 Okay, so after the war ends, there are now something like anywhere from 400 to 700,000 Palestinian refugees.

00:09:29.000 At the same exact time, Nearly the same number of Jews are expelled from Arab countries around the region.

00:09:34.000 Nobody ever talks about this, right?

00:09:35.000 Like the reason that there are so many Moroccan Jews who live in Israel, the reason there are so many Iranian Jews living in Israel, the reason there are so many Syrian Jews living in Israel is because at the time of the Israeli founding, 700,000 Jews were expelled from the surrounding Arab countries and Israel took all of them in.

00:09:52.000 All of them.

00:09:53.000 Israel took all of them in with no international help.

00:09:55.000 Normally, the UN had helped fund the placement of refugees in new places.

00:10:01.000 No help at all.

00:10:01.000 Israel takes all of them in.

00:10:02.000 The Arab states, instead of absorbing these populations into the general population, decides that they are going to keep these populations as refugees. 0.98

00:10:09.000 So the first move is we are not going to actually allow them to return to the state of Israel. 0.81

00:10:14.000 We're not going to allow them to move back to the state of Israel because that would be acknowledging that we lost the war and that they would have to then be Israeli citizens. 0.98

00:10:19.000 Then very quickly, within about a year, the Arab leadership says, you know what would be great?

00:10:23.000 Is if we could infiltrate the state of Israel with a bunch of people who are on our side and want to see the state of Israel destroyed.

00:10:28.000 And at that point, the Israelis are like, well, guess what? 0.90

00:10:29.000 We are not letting people back into the state where they fled their homes.

00:10:33.000 We're not letting them back in just to...

00:10:36.000 Stand in favor of the destruction of the state of Israel. 0.92

00:10:38.000 Now, never in human history has it been the obligation of a state that was declared war on by its surrounding population to take in large numbers of members of people who are trying to destroy the state from within. 0.84

00:10:51.000 That has never been a thing.

00:10:53.000 And in the aftermath of every war, there are refugees.

00:10:55.000 The idea of resettlement of the refugees back in their original homes has never really been a thing either.

00:11:00.000 The fact is, in the aftermath of World War II, there were huge population transfers all over Europe.

00:11:04.000 In the aftermath of the declaration of the division of Pakistan and India, there were tens of millions of people who were refugees and they were taken in by their new countries.

00:11:14.000 The idea is that Indians would live in India, and Muslims would live in Pakistan, and the specific area where there is no separation, Kashmir, has been a hotspot ever since.

00:11:22.000 But there's never been any call for the last 60 years for all of the Indians who were expelled from Pakistan and left Pakistan to have their original homes back in Pakistan, right?

00:11:31.000 This has never been a negotiation point.

00:11:33.000 The Palestinians then are used as a tool by the Arab world to club Israel into submission, and they're used as an excuse to claim that Israel ought to be destroyed.

00:11:42.000 This is the so-called Right of Return.

00:11:44.000 There's a great book on this, I recommended it yesterday, called The War of Return by a couple of leftist Israelis, one who is a former Labor MK, a member of Knesset, and one of whom is a journalist for Haaretz.

00:11:53.000 Okay, so, I'm just explaining the history because you're not going to understand Trump's peace plan until you understand this.

00:11:57.000 Okay, so, there's never been anything internationally that says that Jews cannot live in Judea and Samaria. 0.84

00:12:01.000 It's a ridiculous suggestion.

00:12:03.000 The notion that it is somehow a violation of international law for the Jews who won a defensive war in 1948 to settle in the areas that they want is absurd.

00:12:10.000 Okay, in 1964, the Arabs still have Judea, Samaria, and Gaza. 0.70

00:12:15.000 Egypt is in the Gaza Strip, but has not annexed it, specifically because it does not actually want the Palestinian population absorbed into the Egyptian population.

00:12:23.000 Judea and Samaria have not been annexed by Jordan, right?

00:12:27.000 They have not been technically annexed by Jordan for the exact same reason, but Jordan is ruling Judea and Samaria.

00:12:31.000 Okay, this is a- So, the notion That Israel was always ruling all of these Arabs?

00:12:36.000 It's just not historically true.

00:12:37.000 The Palestine Liberation Organization, which is Yasser Arafat's organization, now the Palestinian Authority, which rules the Palestinian areas of the West Bank and Area A. The Palestinian Authority, effectively, is founded in 1964.

00:12:49.000 Now you might notice something with the timeline here.

00:12:50.000 1964 is before 1967.

00:12:54.000 In 1964, the Arabs are talking about the liberation of Palestine.

00:12:58.000 At that point, Jerusalem is split.

00:13:00.000 The Jordanians are in control of the Old City of Jerusalem. 0.95

00:13:02.000 They've banned all Jews from entering the Old City of Jerusalem.

00:13:04.000 They've discriminated against Christians in the Old City of Jerusalem.

00:13:07.000 They've built barbed wire fences throughout Jerusalem.

00:13:09.000 Hey, they already control Judea and Samaria, Egypt controls the Gaza Strip, and yet there's something called the Palestine Liberation Organization.

00:13:15.000 Weird!

00:13:16.000 What exactly are they seeking to liberate?

00:13:17.000 Well, they make very clear in their charter what exactly they are seeking to liberate.

00:13:20.000 Every square inch of territory between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea.

00:13:24.000 In other words, the murder of every Jew in that region and the ethnic cleansing of Jews from that region, a second Holocaust. 0.72

00:13:29.000 Okay, they've made this clear since 1964.

00:13:32.000 Then the 1967 war happens, and all of the Arab countries, under the leadership of Nasser and Egypt, decide to mobilize against the Israelis.

00:13:39.000 They decide that they're going to launch a second war of redemption against the Israelis. 0.96

00:13:42.000 And the Israelis get wind of this, and the Israelis...

00:13:46.000 Then kick back and launch a preemptive strike downing the Egyptian Air Force and in the famous Six Day War, taking over Judea and Samaria in a defensive action and taking over the Negev Desert as well. 0.63

00:13:57.000 Well, they've already taken the Negev, but taking over the Sinai as well, radically expanding their boundaries. 0.83

00:14:02.000 Israel's first move after the 67 war is to hand back the Sinai to the Egyptians, And to make peace overtures to the rest of the Arab countries who naturally enough reject that out of hand. 0.82

00:14:12.000 Because again, Israel has never rejected a peace offer, a serious peace offer, and the Arabs have never accepted a peace offer. 0.86

00:14:18.000 So they still refuse to accept the existence of the state of Israel.

00:14:21.000 The 1973 war happens.

00:14:22.000 Israel again is hit with a widespread Arab attack.

00:14:26.000 Syrians, Jordanians, the Saudis are involved, the Egyptians are involved.

00:14:31.000 They launched the war on Yom Kippur.

00:14:33.000 So for all the talk about religious tolerance, they launched a war on the holiest day of the Jewish year, when everybody is fasting and in shul. 0.82

00:14:39.000 They launched that attack.

00:14:41.000 Several thousand Israelis die.

00:14:43.000 And the Israelis fight back. 0.56

00:14:45.000 It is an existential threat for them.

00:14:47.000 Remember, every war for the Israelis is an existential war. 0.70

00:14:49.000 Okay, it's not like these are border disputes.

00:14:52.000 These are existential wars because their enemies are not seeking to liberate or to make Muslim certain small slices of territory. 0.61

00:14:58.000 They are seeking Tel Aviv and Haifa and Jaffa and all of it.

00:15:01.000 They want all of it.

00:15:01.000 Okay, so, 1973 happens.

00:15:03.000 Israel fights back. 0.80

00:15:04.000 Israel, once again, fights all the way to the Suez Canal.

00:15:08.000 By the way, it's worth noting that there was a 1956 war in here, too, in which the Egyptians and the Saudis closed off the Suez Canal to all Israeli shipping, they closed the Straits of Hormuz to all Israeli shipping, and Israel launched a preemptive war.

00:15:18.000 By the way, in conjunction with the French and the British.

00:15:20.000 It was only the Eisenhower administration, which was Arabist, which stopped the Israelis from liberating the Suez Canal.

00:15:25.000 In any case, Israel is constantly fighting for its survival.

00:15:29.000 1973 war happens.

00:15:30.000 Israel, again, saves itself from utter destruction and annihilation at the hands of the Arabs. 1.00

00:15:34.000 They thought, literally, this was going to be the second Holocaust happening in real time. 0.82

00:15:37.000 This is 1973, because not long ago.

00:15:39.000 Hey, and they end up expanding their territory into the Golan Heights, they end up expanding their territory again into the Sinai, and then they end up giving back the Sinai, right, in the 80- in the, uh, they actually won the Sinai, not in 67, but in 73.

00:15:51.000 They end up giving the Sinai back, very promptly, to the Egyptians, and then they seek peace, right? 0.80

00:15:57.000 The Israelis are constantly seeking peace.

00:15:59.000 Then the Oslo Accords happen.

00:16:01.000 The Oslo Accords are Israel's attempt to bring back some form of leadership for the Palestinians and say, we don't want to control you people, please.

00:16:07.000 Like, anybody who wants to control these folks can.

00:16:10.000 Now, important to note, none of the Arab countries still, for 50 years at this point, right, by the 1990s, for 50 years, none of the Arab countries have actually taken in the Palestinians, except that the Palestinians have been living and working in all these Arab countries.

00:16:22.000 So, the Palestinians are living and working in Jordan. 0.51

00:16:25.000 The Palestinians are living and working in Lebanon.

00:16:27.000 These are refugee camps 50 years after the fact.

00:16:29.000 This has never existed in human history.

00:16:31.000 A refugee camp 50 years after the fact.

00:16:33.000 Funded by the UNRWA, one of the most despicable organizations on planet Earth.

00:16:37.000 There are hundreds of thousands of Palestinians living in Kuwait.

00:16:39.000 In fact, during the 1991 Gulf War, 200,000 Kuwaiti Palestinians are expelled because they were siding with Saddam Hussein.

00:16:47.000 Nobody ever talks about that because that's Arabs expelling other Arabs, so nobody cares. 1.00

00:16:50.000 Okay, so Israel then moves forward with Oslo.

00:16:53.000 The innate promise of Oslo is that Israel will grant sovereignty to the Palestinian Authority, Yasser Arafat, a terrorist.

00:17:01.000 They'll grant sovereignty to the Palestinian Authority in return for them acknowledging that Israel has a right to exist and leaving Israel alone. 0.65

00:17:07.000 So it's a blackmail deal.

00:17:08.000 Israel says, okay, fine, we're willing to be blackmailed if you leave us alone. 0.54

00:17:12.000 Immediately, there's a wave of suicide bombings.

00:17:14.000 There's a wave of homicide bombings.

00:17:15.000 Immediately, there's a wave of violence after Oslo that nobody ever talks about.

00:17:19.000 Then, in 2000, Israel comes back to the table with Bill Clinton brokering.

00:17:24.000 And Ehud Barak, then the Prime Minister of Israel, offers an enormous deal to the Palestinians.

00:17:29.000 Offers them half of Jerusalem, including control of the Temple Mount. 0.90

00:17:33.000 Offers them 98% of the West Bank, the so-called West Bank, offers them control of the Gaza Strip, and Yasser Arafat walks away without a counteroffer and launches the second intifada.

00:17:44.000 And then, 2008, fast forward.

00:17:45.000 Okay, so actually, fast forward to 2005.

00:17:47.000 2005, Israel says, listen, we don't even want control of the Gaza Strip, right?

00:17:50.000 We've got thousands of Jews living in Gush Katif.

00:17:52.000 We don't want control of this.

00:17:53.000 We don't want anything to do with this, right?

00:17:55.000 We want out.

00:17:55.000 That would be nice.

00:17:56.000 Like, we don't want this.

00:17:57.000 We don't want our young men and women being drafted into the army to go and have to defend territory that really the Palestinians are living in anyway. 0.96

00:18:04.000 Yes, we have a legit claim on it, both by the laws of war and by the laws of history.

00:18:08.000 But we're not going to, we don't want it.

00:18:10.000 We want out.

00:18:11.000 Ariel Sharon then initiates so-called disengagement from Gaza, pulls out, and the Palestinians immediately burn down every single greenhouse that the Jews leave behind, all these beautiful greenhouses and agricultural resources. 0.98

00:18:22.000 The Palestinians go in and burn it, like, to the ground. 1.00

00:18:25.000 And then they elect Hamas, a terrorist group, that uses the Gaza Strip as a staging area for rocket attacks and suicide attacks, which they've been doing ever since 2005, after Israeli disengagement.

00:18:35.000 So there are no Jews in the Gaza Strip.

00:18:37.000 Doesn't matter.

00:18:38.000 That is completely run by Hamas.

00:18:40.000 Hey, meanwhile, the Israelis are still trying to cut a deal.

00:18:43.000 So Ehud Olmert, who's the prime minister in 2008, this is right before Bibi is elected, and he's sort of the reason Bibi is elected.

00:18:49.000 Ehud Olmert, in 2008, offers the Palestinians an even better deal than Ehud Barak offered.

00:18:55.000 Again, 98, 99% of Judea and Samaria, plus control over portions of the old city of Jerusalem, plus a land bridge to the Gaza Strip, all of it, right?

00:19:05.000 He offers everything.

00:19:07.000 And Mahmoud Abbas, who is a holocaust denying piece of human debris, who supports terrorism, immediately rejects it, out of hand, without a counteroffer. 0.79

00:19:15.000 Right, okay, so the reason I tell you this whole history is because this is the backdrop to Trump's peace deal.

00:19:20.000 Trump's peace deal is in recognition of reality.

00:19:22.000 The obstacle to peace in the Middle East is not and has never been the Israelis. 0.99

00:19:26.000 The obstacle to peace in the Middle East is not Israel's willingness to give up territory, which Israel has shown willingness every single time this has been brought to the table. 0.79

00:19:33.000 The obstacle to peace is not the quote-unquote Israeli settlements, which are just a recognition that Jews should be allowed to live in areas.

00:19:39.000 Okay, the fact is, 20% of Israel is Arab.

00:19:42.000 0% of the Palestine Authority is Jewish.

00:19:45.000 0%.

00:19:45.000 There are signs on the roads in Israel that say, if you drive off this area of the road, right, you're driving along the road, there's a red sign off the side of the road.

00:19:52.000 I mean, my producer Colton can testify to this because he's seen it.

00:19:57.000 You're driving along the highway, okay, and it will say, if you stay on this road, there's a green sign, it's all fine, you drive off this road, the Israeli army is not in control of this area and cannot protect you, you are risking your life.

00:20:07.000 Right, because if you're a Jew and you take a wrong turn into a Palestinian area, there is a solid shot they will pull you out of your car and you will be murdered. 0.98

00:20:13.000 If a Palestinian mistakenly drives into Israeli territory, right, not violates the law and drives over the border and runs over a soldier or something, but mistakenly is let in, they go and have a nice cup of coffee and tell if you didn't go home. 0.94

00:20:24.000 Okay, that's how all of this works.

00:20:25.000 So you have to understand the internal dynamics.

00:20:28.000 What the Trump administration did in this peace deal is they recognized a simple reality.

00:20:32.000 And the simple reality is that unless the Palestinians get it through their skulls, and I'm talking about the Palestinian leadership because I think that a lot of Palestinians themselves would like to see this thing end.

00:20:40.000 If the Palestinian leadership ever got it through their skulls, That Israel ain't going anywhere?

00:20:44.000 Then you would have peace.

00:20:45.000 So long as they believe that there is the prospect of a gradualistic destruction of the state of Israel, there will never be peace, there will be consistent violence, it will be continued forever.

00:20:54.000 Israel would love no- My friend Dennis Prager says this all the time.

00:20:57.000 If the Israelis put down their guns, the next day, there would be no Jews. 0.99

00:21:01.000 If the Palestinians put down their guns, the next day there will be a Palestinian state. 0.97

00:21:05.000 It is that simple. 0.99

00:21:06.000 The Trump administration acknowledges this, the rest of the world refuses to, either because of complete ignorance and foolishness, or because of base, disgusting anti-Semitism.

00:21:15.000 Because any objective observer of the situation would say that a militarily superior power willing to give up land, specifically in order to guarantee That there being less terrorism against its people is not the aggressor in the situation.

00:21:30.000 Especially not when they've had to fight one, two, three, four, if you count the Gaza war, five, at least five defensive wars against the same folks and waves of terrorism throughout.

00:21:42.000 Okay, we'll get to the actual plan in a second because there is something that the Trump peace plan does.

00:21:46.000 It's not gonna be successful because the Palestinians will never accept the peace plan because Aba Eban, the former foreign minister for Israel once said, the Palestinians never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.

00:21:55.000 In a second, I'll explain what actually did change on the ground thanks to Trump's peace proposal.

00:22:00.000 Again, a recognition of reality.

00:22:01.000 We'll get to that in just one second.

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00:23:09.000 Okay, so Trump makes his proposal.

00:23:11.000 His proposal is very simple.

00:23:13.000 The reality on the ground is the reality on the ground.

00:23:14.000 The Palestinians can either take it or leave it. 1.00

00:23:17.000 That seems like a real answer to the situation, right?

00:23:20.000 No pie-in-the-sky crap about how Israel is going to take in 5 million Palestinians because what the Palestinians want at this point is they want everybody who's been registered by the UNRWA as a Palestinian refugee over the last 70 years absorbed into Israel, which is an insanity. 0.97

00:23:34.000 I mean, it's a pure insanity. 0.99

00:23:36.000 And the West has been humoring this garbage for years. 1.00

00:23:39.000 It's absolute ridiculousness. 0.98

00:23:41.000 The UNRWA registers anybody as a Palestinian refugee who is the child or grandchild of a person who has claimed at any point, with or without evidence, to have lived inside of Israel.

00:23:52.000 Hey, first of all, even if you believe that there is a right to live in quote-unquote Palestine, that would be inside the negotiated borders of Palestine, not in your quote-unquote old home.

00:24:00.000 Right?

00:24:00.000 The right to go back to where it was that your house was.

00:24:03.000 That's absurd.

00:24:04.000 It ignores the fact that the responsibility for the refugees lies entirely with the Arab world that declared war on a state that was willing to accept its original borders as given by the United Nations.

00:24:14.000 In any case, that's not going to happen.

00:24:16.000 Everybody knows that's not going to happen.

00:24:17.000 Even leftist negotiators who've been trying to work out this deal understand they always thought the right of return for the Palestinians was simply a bargaining chip.

00:24:24.000 In reality, the right of return is the simple basis for everything the Palestinians want, which is the destruction of the state of Israel, which is why they've been teaching it with billions of American taxpayer dollars over the years in those UNRWA schools.

00:24:35.000 OK, so this plan says there's no right of return. 0.88

00:24:38.000 This is silly.

00:24:39.000 If Israel takes in a symbolic number of Palestinian refugees, they're willing to do that, but they're not absorbing millions of Palestinians who have been born over the years, not when they're being granted a state that's absurd. 0.98

00:24:49.000 It's like it really it's ridiculous on every level.

00:24:52.000 Also, Israel is not going to dismantle major Jewish centers. 0.81

00:24:55.000 Now, again, people are like, oh, my God, how dare Trump suggest such a thing?

00:24:58.000 Well, let's be real about this.

00:25:00.000 Even the Clinton and Obama administrations recognized that Israel was never going to withdraw from areas like Efrat, which has, I think, what, 20,000, 30,000 people living there?

00:25:11.000 They were never going to simply withdraw from that area.

00:25:13.000 Instead, there would be land swaps or something.

00:25:15.000 Trump says, listen, These are disputed areas.

00:25:18.000 These are not quote-unquote Palestinian areas.

00:25:20.000 These are disputed areas because, number one, Israel won these areas in a defensive war.

00:25:24.000 Two, Israelis have a historic connection to the land.

00:25:27.000 In fact, the most historic areas of Israel are not Tel Aviv and Haifa.

00:25:31.000 The most historic areas of Israel are places that are in the West Bank, all right, or in Judea and Samaria.

00:25:36.000 Places like Hebron.

00:25:38.000 That's just a simple truth.

00:25:40.000 And also, Trump is recognizing, listen, the Palestinians can either take this thing or the situation on the ground is moving away from them because they refuse to accept a state.

00:25:49.000 Because the truth is, Israel would be much more willing to deal with a state that was not trying to murder them at every turn than they are willing to deal with a terrorist state that is going to use its base as a launch point for attack.

00:25:59.000 They're not going to go back to the Auschwitz borders of pre-67. 0.80

00:26:03.000 So Trump makes this announcement, that is the basic announcement, you know, there will be foreign aid to the Palestinians, that they are going to open their economy, that economic aid will flow.

00:26:13.000 Again, the Israelis accepted a horrible deal in 1940, a much worse deal than this one, in 1947. 0.63

00:26:19.000 The Palestinians have rejected deals much better than this one at every turn. 0.90

00:26:22.000 So what Trump is really doing here, what this really does show, is that the Palestinians are intransigent, again, because they're always intransigent, because their goal was never any sort of peace deal.

00:26:29.000 It was the full-scale destruction of the state of Israel.

00:26:32.000 Simple as that.

00:26:33.000 So under the peace vision, the quote-unquote settlers would remain in place.

00:26:37.000 Again, amazing.

00:26:38.000 Israel is expected to have a 20% Arab population.

00:26:40.000 The Palestinian Authority is expected to have a completely Judenrein state. 0.81

00:26:44.000 All Jews expelled. 1.00

00:26:45.000 But don't worry, it's Israel that's the apartheid state gang. 0.97

00:26:48.000 It's pretty incredible.

00:26:49.000 Israel will retain sovereignty in areas that it would need to retain sovereignty in order to guarantee its own security.

00:26:56.000 No Palestinians will be forced to leave their homes.

00:26:59.000 No Jews will be forced to leave their homes.

00:27:00.000 There will be a highway between the Gaza Strip and the West Bank that will allow free transportation.

00:27:06.000 And the Palestinians will be reintegrated into the world economy. 1.00

00:27:10.000 Now, what is this really?

00:27:11.000 The Palestinian Authority immediately rejected this.

00:27:13.000 Out of hand.

00:27:14.000 They immediately rejected this.

00:27:15.000 This is not any surprise.

00:27:16.000 Of course they did. 0.99

00:27:17.000 And in fact, the Palestinians went out on the street and burned crap. 0.98

00:27:19.000 Which is called Tuesday in the Gaza Strip. 0.98

00:27:21.000 They went out and they burned stuff.

00:27:22.000 Because, you mean, in response to a peace offer?

00:27:25.000 The Palestinians got violent? 0.99

00:27:27.000 That is only the history of the entire Middle East situation every single time ever in history.

00:27:31.000 So here is a little bit of video from, I believe this one is from the West Bank, where Palestinians are burning things and rioting, which is not a giant surprise.

00:27:39.000 Again, when you're indoctrinated for 70 years in the belief that if you just hold out long enough the Jews will disappear, then of course this is exactly what happens as soon as you are offered a state of your own. 0.94

00:27:47.000 Remember, Israelis were offered a state of their own in 1947, a rump state that was indefensible without any arms to defend it, and they took it. 0.89

00:27:55.000 Because they wanted the state.

00:27:56.000 The Palestinians don't want a state. 0.69

00:27:57.000 They just want the annihilation of the state of Israel.

00:27:59.000 Okay, so, this happens, then Mahmoud Abbas comes out, and he says a thousand no's.

00:27:59.000 End of story.

00:28:04.000 A thousand no's to the deal of the century, according to Mahmoud Abbas. 0.99

00:28:10.000 And so, this is what he had to say, this terror, this terrorist piece of garbage, as I'll explain in a second. 0.96

00:28:14.000 Abbas, sends money to the families of terrorists, he names streets after terrorists, he celebrates them as martyrs, and yet he is purported to be the great peace partner for the Israelis. 1.00

00:28:23.000 It's a joke, and it's a savage joke against Jews. 0.91

00:28:26.000 The same week that the world celebrates, well, celebrates, commemorates the 75th anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz, and you got all these people tagging Never Again on Twitter, the same people are like, oh, Mahmoud Mahmoud Bas, what a wonderful guy, literally wrote his thesis in grad school on Holocaust denial, And also happens to be a rabid anti-Semite who supports the murders of Jews pretty much anywhere it happens.

00:28:46.000 Here is Mahmoud Abbas saying a thousand no's to the Trump peace deal.

00:28:52.000 We describe it as a slap of the century, not a deal of the century, and by God, we are going to return it in several slaps to our adversaries.

00:29:04.000 Up to this day, our situation never wavered and never changed.

00:29:09.000 And today, after we have heard all this nonsense from the beginning to the end, we will say 1,000 times, no, no and no.

00:29:19.000 So the media are playing this as if Trump had made a better offer, he wouldn't be saying a thousand times no.

00:29:23.000 He was literally offered everything he could possibly want in 2008 by Ehud Olmert, and he rejected it.

00:29:29.000 He rejected it outright.

00:29:30.000 Okay, the fact is, until the Palestinian people oust their leadership and put people in place who want to make a peace deal, there will be no peace deal.

00:29:36.000 It is that simple.

00:29:37.000 Because the people, like, here's the truth.

00:29:38.000 The reason Abbas walked away from the peace deal in 2008 is because Abbas knew that he would likely be killed by the terrorist groups he was making deals with if he made a deal.

00:29:46.000 That's what actually happened in 2008.

00:29:47.000 It also happened in 2000.

00:29:50.000 So the media are playing this again as Trump's shortcoming.

00:29:53.000 But weirdly enough, weirdly enough, the actual story here has nothing to do with the left wing.

00:29:57.000 It has nothing to do with the Europeans.

00:29:58.000 Because you know who is okay with this.

00:30:00.000 Here's the real story.

00:30:01.000 The real story that matters in the Trump peace deal.

00:30:04.000 Here's what matters.

00:30:05.000 Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Qatar, and the UAE issued statement welcoming the peace plan.

00:30:10.000 I mean, now that is a shocker.

00:30:12.000 The reason that is a shocker is because Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Qatar and the UAE, not so much.

00:30:17.000 But Saudi Arabia and Egypt were directly involved in the 1948, 1967, and 1973 wars.

00:30:23.000 They've stood directly against the existence of the state of Israel.

00:30:25.000 They were still calling it the Zionist entity until five minutes ago.

00:30:29.000 So they've dramatically shifted their position on this.

00:30:31.000 This is a recognition that Israel will continue to exist by the Arab world. 0.95

00:30:34.000 That's the part of this that matters.

00:30:36.000 Because the lie that's been told by the left, and it is an absolute outright lie, is that at the center of all conflict in the Middle East lies the Israelis and the Palestinians.

00:30:44.000 And if only we could solve this canker, then that would solve everything.

00:30:48.000 Or if we could just fix this thing, if the Israelis would just be less intransigent and less mean and less cruel, and if they would just give the Palestinians what they want, then everyone would get along and the world would sing as one. 0.99

00:30:57.000 And it's absolute garbage. 0.97

00:30:59.000 Not only was it not true 50 years ago, it is certainly not true now. 0.99

00:31:02.000 The Saudis, the Egyptians, Qatar, the UAE, Jordanians, they do not want the Palestinians overrunning the state of Israel. 0.99

00:31:09.000 They do not want the Palestinians in control of Jerusalem. 0.71

00:31:11.000 They don't care about the Palestinians in control of Jerusalem. 0.73

00:31:14.000 Because they think that the Palestinians are run by violent terrorist groups. 0.94

00:31:17.000 Because they are run by violent terrorist groups.

00:31:18.000 So this is their acknowledgement, and this is the part that matters.

00:31:21.000 This is, we're five minutes, really.

00:31:22.000 This is historic, and everybody's gonna ignore it. 1.00

00:31:24.000 They're gonna pretend that Trump's an idiot. 1.00

00:31:25.000 He is not. 1.00

00:31:26.000 This is a smart plan.

00:31:27.000 The reason it's a smart plan is because the possibility of normalization of relations between a bunch of the Arab countries and Israel is very, very possible.

00:31:36.000 It is definitely possible.

00:31:37.000 Which, by the way, would have been the sought outcome of a peace deal, right?

00:31:40.000 What exactly was everyone seeking to solve in the region?

00:31:43.000 What everyone is seeking to solve is the recognition by the Arabs that Israel exists.

00:31:47.000 And that gets solved!

00:31:48.000 Okay, that's being solved right now because this is just a recognition of what happens on the ground.

00:31:52.000 And Trump says, listen, this is a realistic endpoint.

00:31:57.000 And what you guys are, you know, what you guys are complaining about, I don't understand.

00:32:01.000 Like, if you wanted to make a deal, you could have made a deal a thousand times before.

00:32:03.000 Here's another opportunity to make a deal.

00:32:04.000 If you keep rejecting deals, there will be no deal.

00:32:07.000 Our proposal provides precise technical solutions to make Israelis, Palestinians, and the region safer and much more prosperous.

00:32:18.000 My vision presents a win-win opportunity for both sides, a realistic two-state solution that resolves the risk of Palestinian statehood to Israel's security.

00:32:32.000 Today, Israel has taken a giant step toward peace.

00:32:35.000 Okay, so the media are just lying to you about this.

00:32:37.000 The reason the media are lying, they say, a muted Arab response to Trump's Mideast peace plan.

00:32:41.000 Well, you would expect that it would be somewhat muted, considering that Trump is basically saying the Israelis get to stay where they are, they get to continue to have a unified Jerusalem, and they continue to exist.

00:32:50.000 That is running counter 180 degrees to everything that the Arab states have been saying for two genera- three generations at this point, and a thousand generations before that.

00:33:00.000 Okay, this run- the fact that there was a muted response in favor of the plan is not a muted response, that's a massive success!

00:33:07.000 That's a massive success!

00:33:09.000 You understand?

00:33:10.000 I mean, that's like saying that somebody who wanted to murder somebody the other day now says, well, you know, I guess we can go to coffee.

00:33:16.000 Is that a muted response or not?

00:33:17.000 We're not going to be best friends.

00:33:18.000 We're not going to hang out all the time.

00:33:19.000 We're not going to, like, go to watch the Super Bowl together.

00:33:21.000 But that's a pretty large shift from I want to murder you and your family to, OK, I guess that we can have coffee together.

00:33:26.000 Like, that's a massive shift. 0.98

00:33:28.000 And the media are treating that as though that is a loss for Trump.

00:33:31.000 Like, what in the actual F?

00:33:33.000 What are they actually?

00:33:34.000 Again, it takes tremendous amounts of ignorance to cover the Middle East the way that the media do.

00:33:38.000 Good news, the media are up to the challenge. 1.00

00:33:40.000 They are tremendously, tremendously ignorant. 0.99

00:33:42.000 I love this. 0.99

00:33:43.000 The editorial board of the Washington Post says, the Middle East peace plan amounts to another one-sided gift So the right wing Israeli government of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, they're trying to make it about Netanyahu.

00:33:53.000 It ain't about Netanyahu.

00:33:54.000 You know who else was celebrating this?

00:33:55.000 The supposed left winger, Benny Gantz, who is the direct opponent of Benjamin Netanyahu in this.

00:34:00.000 And they say it's a radical shift in a half century old American policy.

00:34:03.000 Hmm. 0.99

00:34:04.000 Could it be that that policy has been a giant ass failure? 1.00

00:34:07.000 Could it be that the policy for the last 50 years has been garbage? 0.99

00:34:10.000 Because last I checked, Was there peace, like, anywhere in here? 0.93

00:34:13.000 Like, I just gave you a timeline.

00:34:14.000 Was there peace in 48, 56, 67, 73, 82, 91, 2000, 2005, 2000?

00:34:21.000 Like, was there peace anywhere in here?

00:34:23.000 Anywhere?

00:34:24.000 Because what I'm hearing is, if only Trump had kept banging his head against the wall, yelling at the Israelis, then things would have changed.

00:34:31.000 I love this.

00:34:32.000 U.S.

00:34:32.000 sanctions for the annexation of settlements will, meanwhile, deliver a devastating blow to the prospects for a two-state resolution between Israelis and Palestinians.

00:34:39.000 This, of course, misses the entire point. 0.87

00:34:41.000 The idea here from the Washington Post continues to be the complete and ugly and stupid myth that all that's happening is a territorial dispute as opposed to a war of annihilation, a 60- to 70-year war of annihilation fought by Israel's enemies against the state of Israel. 0.95

00:34:55.000 And doing that on the 75th anniversary of Auschwitz is pretty telling, is it not? 0.98

00:35:00.000 The same people who are hashtagging Never Again, people like Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar, are supporting Hamas, which openly speaks of genocidal anti-Jewish hatred.

00:35:06.000 So, I will take everything they have to say on this with a grain of salt. 0.93

00:35:10.000 Again, if you believe that the real intransigent party in the Middle East has been the Israelis, it's because you don't know a damn thing, like zero things about the Middle East.

00:35:17.000 It's truly incredible. 0.92

00:35:19.000 Okay.

00:35:19.000 In a second, we're going to get to everything impeachment-related, and we'll get to a little bit of 2020.

00:35:23.000 But I wanted to give you the full-on analysis of everything that's happening with the peace plan because the media are lying to you.

00:35:28.000 They are lying to you outright, just like they always do.

00:35:30.000 They lied to you about Iran, and then Trump uses deterrence, and it works because the media don't know what they're talking about, and or they actively promulgate agendas that are counter to the interests of the West.

00:35:40.000 I mean, really, there's no other way to read this.

00:35:42.000 Anyway, we'll get to more of this in one sec.

00:35:43.000 We'll get to impeachment and everything else.

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00:36:33.000 Okay, so on to impeachment.

00:36:40.000 So, the Republicans are in the middle of an internal battle over whether or not to allow witnesses.

00:36:45.000 It appears that Mitch McConnell does not have the votes to stop witnesses from happening.

00:36:49.000 This was as of last night.

00:36:50.000 He says Republican leaders said they don't currently have enough votes to block witnesses in President Trump's Senate impeachment trial, according to the Wall Street Journal.

00:36:56.000 People familiar with the matter said, after his legal team concluded its efforts, to counter Democrats' charges that the president abused power and obstructed Congress.

00:37:03.000 On the third and final day of presentations, lawyers tried to cast doubts on the importance and credibility of allegations by former National Security Advisor John Bolton about the president's motives for freezing aid to Ukraine.

00:37:13.000 Pat Cipollone, who is the attorney for the president, he says, listen, this should end now.

00:37:17.000 We should know more witnesses.

00:37:17.000 We've already heard everything that we need to hear.

00:37:19.000 Here is Pat Cipollone making Trump's case for him.

00:37:21.000 Overturning the last election and massively interfering with the upcoming one, would cause serious and lasting damage to the people of the United States and to our great country.

00:37:35.000 The Senate cannot allow this to happen.

00:37:38.000 It is time for this to end, here and now.

00:37:44.000 So, we urge the Senate to reject these articles of impeachment for all of the reasons we have given you.

00:37:52.000 Okay, there's only one problem with this, of course, and that is that President Trump has gotten into a firefight with one of the prospective chief witnesses.

00:37:58.000 Now, the reason that's a problem is because then it looks like a Republican cover-up if they don't actually hear from the witness.

00:38:02.000 That would be John Bolton.

00:38:04.000 So, a lot of folks on the right have opened up their guns on Bolton.

00:38:07.000 They're suggesting that Bolton is a traitor, that Bolton is doing something wrong here.

00:38:10.000 Here is the reality.

00:38:11.000 Again, this was only forced by the fact that the President of the United States constantly craps all over his subordinates, and also the fact that the President of the United States has a bad habit Of immediately claiming that nothing has ever gone wrong, when in fact, if you just said, yeah, I had conversations with the Ukrainians, I talked to them about linking military aid to investigations, and you know what?

00:38:28.000 That was completely legit.

00:38:31.000 That would be the end of the story, would it not?

00:38:32.000 But instead, he has to say no quid pro quo, perfect phone call, and all the rest.

00:38:35.000 And that forces him into a factual conflict with a key witness.

00:38:39.000 And this is why you are seeing Republicans who are a little bit dicey on all of this.

00:38:43.000 Now, there's a conflict in the Republican caucus about all this.

00:38:45.000 Susan Collins, who is in Maine and is more moderate and is struggling for a seat right now.

00:38:49.000 Again, remember, you know, everybody wants to make this about Trump.

00:38:51.000 Trump's not getting impeached.

00:38:52.000 Okay, let's be clear about this.

00:38:53.000 You need two-thirds of the Senate to impeach.

00:38:55.000 They do not have it.

00:38:55.000 It's not going to happen.

00:38:56.000 He's not getting impeached.

00:38:57.000 There's another issue on the table here.

00:38:59.000 The other issue on the table is that if senators look like they're obstructing, they could lose the Senate.

00:39:03.000 That is a problem for Republicans.

00:39:05.000 If you're in favor of conservatism, if you want to see Trump reelected, and you would also like to see a Republican Senate, which seems like kind of a big thing, then what you would like here is for all the information to get out as early as possible.

00:39:15.000 We'll hear all of it.

00:39:16.000 In all likelihood, and I said like 99.9% likelihood, there's nothing there that is impeachable.

00:39:22.000 And then we move forward to the election. 0.85

00:39:24.000 Okay, but people who are ripping on Collins and Romney, who are ripping on Murkowski, who are ripping on the Republicans in purple states who could lose their seats, all because Trump decided to make his stand on a dumb defense. 0.98

00:39:35.000 It's really ridiculous. 0.93

00:39:37.000 Here's what Trump tweeted about John Bolton today. 0.83

00:39:38.000 Okay, John Bolton is his former national security advisor.

00:39:41.000 So Trump tweeted today.

00:39:41.000 today for a guy who couldn't get approved for the ambassador to the un years ago couldn't get approved for anything since begged me for a non-senate approved job which i gave him despite many saying don't do it sir takes the job mistakenly says libyan model on tv and many more mistakes of judgment gets fired because frankly if i listened to him we would be in world war six by now i don't know what happened to three four and five but and goes out and immediately writes a nasty and untrue All classified national security.

00:40:10.000 Who would do this? 0.98

00:40:14.000 This is such a dumb strategy, okay? 0.97

00:40:15.000 Put aside the fact that Trump has never met a subordinate he will not crap on, which is why it's very difficult for him to get people to work for him, which is just bad policy generally. 0.98

00:40:22.000 Hey, I run a company.

00:40:23.000 You know what I don't do at this company?

00:40:24.000 Except in the zip recruiter ads, okay? 0.98

00:40:26.000 The only thing I don't do at this company is crap on my subordinates. 0.50

00:40:29.000 Seriously, we treat people very well at this company because that's what a smart CEO does. 0.96

00:40:32.000 Trump brings people in, and then he just dumps on them, and then he is surprised when they come at him.

00:40:37.000 Okay, now that's bad, right?

00:40:38.000 They shouldn't come at him, but at the same time, Why is he?

00:40:41.000 He's now escalating a conflict with a chief witness, which puts Republicans in the position of either having to say that John Bolton is an outright liar and also we don't need to hear from him or John Bolton is telling the truth and the president is fibbing and we don't need to hear from him.

00:40:54.000 Neither of those is a supremely tenable position.

00:40:56.000 Here is Susan Collins, who again, I don't think is being supremely unreasonable.

00:40:59.000 I know this is an unpopular view on the right.

00:41:01.000 I do not think she's being unreasonable when she says that she is likely to support witnesses.

00:41:06.000 I do know that but for the efforts that four of us made to ensure that that vote would occur, that it's unlikely that we would have had that opportunity.

00:41:18.000 So I'm pleased that every senator will have the opportunity to vote on whether or not additional witnesses and documents are necessary.

00:41:29.000 It is very likely that I'm going to conclude that, yes, we do need to hear from witnesses.

00:41:37.000 OK, well, again, so the Republicans who are saying, well, it'll drag this thing out.

00:41:41.000 OK, so then accelerate it.

00:41:42.000 Accelerate it.

00:41:43.000 Like, just say we're going to do all the witnesses.

00:41:44.000 We're going to have two hours of hearings for all the witnesses.

00:41:47.000 The Democrats accelerated it.

00:41:48.000 The Democrats did their entire impeachment hearings in two weeks.

00:41:51.000 The notion this has to take months on end, I don't see why.

00:41:54.000 Really.

00:41:55.000 I don't see it.

00:41:56.000 Now, on the other hand, there are Republicans who are saying this isn't going to be helpful, it's going to drag out.

00:41:59.000 Here's a worst-case scenario for Republicans.

00:42:01.000 They don't call witnesses.

00:42:02.000 Two weeks before the election, a bunch of witnesses come out and say a bunch of damaging things to Trump.

00:42:06.000 Trump loses and the Republicans lose the Senate.

00:42:08.000 That is the worst-case scenario for Republicans.

00:42:10.000 The worst-case scenario is not that this thing drags out in the middle of primaries and people are bored with it, which is really what is happening right now.

00:42:16.000 Nonetheless, here's Roger Wicker from Mississippi.

00:42:18.000 Saying, I don't think that the testimony would be helpful at this point, so this is the battle inside the Republican caucus.

00:42:24.000 I don't think the testimony of Ambassador Bolton would be helpful, because I basically think, in agreement with the very scholarly approach that Mr. Dershowitz gave, that there's no article there that is pronounced for impeachment Now, people are saying, like, why are you so sanguine about the possibility of having witnesses?

00:42:51.000 Aren't you worried about it?

00:42:51.000 And the answer is no.

00:42:52.000 The reason I'm not worried about having witnesses is because I don't actually think Trump did anything impeachable.

00:42:57.000 I don't actually think he did.

00:42:58.000 Now, you can say that Republicans should just stonewall it on principle because the Democrats are bad and badly motivated.

00:43:04.000 That's true.

00:43:04.000 But don't worry about the Democrats.

00:43:05.000 Worry about the swing voters.

00:43:07.000 Worry about the fact that in the polls, over 50 percent of Americans say they want Trump removed from office.

00:43:12.000 Which is not exactly where you want to be going into a re-elect effort.

00:43:16.000 Okay, and that's certainly not where you want to be in some of these swing states if you're a senator.

00:43:18.000 Okay, so this bizarre notion that it's John Bolton's fault that all of this is happening, if only he'd kept his mouth shut.

00:43:25.000 Fiona Hill already testified to all of this. 0.87

00:43:27.000 The problem is that Trump decided to double down on a dumb defense he didn't need to do, simply because of a personal fit of pique.

00:43:34.000 So it's we got some excellent Trump in the Trump peace deal. 0.69

00:43:36.000 OK, that's good Trump.

00:43:37.000 And then we got some bad Trump. 1.00

00:43:38.000 The bad Trump here is Trump's plan for his own defense, which of course is very, very foolish. 1.00

00:43:42.000 Meanwhile. 0.98

00:43:44.000 Bernie Sanders continues to gain ground.

00:43:46.000 He is now leading in all of the betting markets for the Democratic nomination, which is incredible.

00:43:50.000 Democrats are panicking over Bernie Sanders' rise.

00:43:52.000 They should be panicked over Bernie Sanders' rise.

00:43:54.000 The man is far too radical for the American public.

00:43:58.000 And Bernie Sanders supporters are some of the... I mean, this is the McGovern campaign, 72.

00:44:02.000 It really is.

00:44:02.000 Bernie Sanders' people invaded Joe Biden's campaign office in Iowa singing civil rights songs because apparently Joe Biden is now a segregationist.

00:44:12.000 I'm gonna let it shine in Joe Biden's office.

00:44:17.000 I'm gonna let it shine in Joe Biden's office.

00:44:25.000 I'm gonna let it shine.

00:44:29.000 You want these people in charge of the country? 0.95

00:44:31.000 How's that sound to you?

00:44:32.000 Does it sound fantastic?

00:44:33.000 People who, like, think that Joe Biden is the root of all evil?

00:44:36.000 Now listen, I'll admit that I'm enjoying the internecine warfare inside the Democratic Party because, hell, you know, karma is a hell of a drug, but at the same time, These people?

00:44:46.000 You want these people in charge? 1.00

00:44:46.000 I mean, they're nuts. 1.00

00:44:47.000 They're nuts. 0.99

00:44:48.000 OK, people for Bernie released an ad promoting Bernie Sanders as a perfume, which is weird because Bernie Sanders himself has said that he doesn't... I don't understand why the market should allow 16 different types of deodorant. 0.97

00:45:00.000 I personally do not like any of that.

00:45:02.000 Do not like any deodorant.

00:45:03.000 I think people should experience the manly scent of Bernie Sanders.

00:45:08.000 People for Bernie cut an ad with Bernie as a perfume bottle, which is like the worst perfume you could possibly imagine.

00:45:14.000 It's the mix of old man and socialism.

00:45:16.000 Do we have a clip of the, uh, this is, this would be clip 20?

00:45:22.000 Introducing Bernay.

00:45:25.000 The people's perfume.

00:45:28.000 It's a bottle of perfume with Bernie Sanders's head.

00:45:33.000 Yeah, that smell of prunes and pudding.

00:45:36.000 Really doing it for folks.

00:45:40.000 They're tearing up their healthcare bills 1%.

00:45:42.000 They're tearing up their Stafford loan accounts because Bernie's going to make everything free.

00:45:51.000 This isn't creepy, or weird, or anything.

00:45:54.000 Like, at all.

00:45:55.000 Yeah, let's put these people in charge of the country. 0.97

00:45:58.000 Like, how is this not a parody?

00:46:00.000 How?

00:46:01.000 How?

00:46:01.000 How does that look not a parody?

00:46:04.000 This was put out by the People for Bernie account.

00:46:06.000 It's an actual account.

00:46:07.000 Okay, so...

00:46:08.000 Well done.

00:46:09.000 If it is a parody, if I'm getting all this wrong, it is a parody, well done on the parody.

00:46:12.000 If it's not, like, wow.

00:46:14.000 Wow.

00:46:14.000 No wonder Democrats are a little bit worried about Bernie as the nominee.

00:46:18.000 They should be.

00:46:18.000 By the way, I'm worried about Bernie as the nominee because there are only two possible outcomes.

00:46:21.000 He runs and he loses, but he wins 45% of the vote for a full-on commie agenda, or two, he runs and he wins, in which case we have our first communist president.

00:46:30.000 Thanks, everybody.

00:46:30.000 Well done.

00:46:31.000 Well done all around.

00:46:32.000 Okay, time for, well, we'll just do some things that I hate today.

00:46:40.000 So I am perfectly amazed at the controversy that is now broken out over a book called American Dirt.

00:46:45.000 It is a left-wing book.

00:46:46.000 It's a left-wing propaganda piece about the evils of America's immigration system.

00:46:50.000 And the entire tale is supposed to be, it's written by a woman named Janine Cummings.

00:46:55.000 Okay, the author has one, I guess, Puerto Rican grandparent.

00:46:57.000 She is not Hispanic. 0.89

00:46:58.000 She has declared herself white in previous interviews.

00:47:02.000 American Dirt, according to Vox, is the fictional account of a woman forced to travel with illegal immigrants after escaping from drug lords in Mexico.

00:47:09.000 It tells the story of a mother and son, Lydia and Luca, Fleeing their home in Acapulco, Mexico for the U.S.

00:47:13.000 after the rest of their family is murdered by a drug cartel.

00:47:16.000 Lydia is a bookstore owner who never thought of herself as having anything in common with the migrants she sees on the news.

00:47:20.000 But after she comes up with the plan of disguising herself by posing as a migrant, she realizes that it won't really be a disguise.

00:47:25.000 It's who she is now.

00:47:27.000 The book's author earned a seven-figure advance, according to Emily Zanotti, writing for Daily Wire.

00:47:32.000 And publishers were so convinced it would be a bestseller, they ordered a first printing of more than half a million copies.

00:47:36.000 It was endorsed by a bevy of celebrities.

00:47:38.000 Oprah Winfrey made it her book club pick for the month of January, thus ensuring that it would be a massive bestseller.

00:47:42.000 Because as soon as Oprah says it's a book of the month club pick, it's going to sell a ginormous number of copies.

00:47:47.000 And the entire narrative of the book was supposed to be about how Trump is evil, right?

00:47:50.000 That was the entire narrative of the book.

00:47:52.000 Cummings writes in a note about this.

00:47:54.000 There's an author's note at the beginning of the book.

00:47:55.000 It says, at worst, we perceive illegal immigrants as an invading mob of resource draining criminals and at best a sort of helpless, impoverished, faceless brown mask clamoring for help at our doorstep. 0.88

00:48:04.000 We seldom think of them as our fellow human beings.

00:48:06.000 But now, now it turns out, and this is something I both like and hate.

00:48:11.000 I like it because, again, karma is a wonderful, wonderful thing. 1.00

00:48:15.000 At the same time, this is so disgusting and it's so stupid. 1.00

00:48:18.000 She's a bad lady, Cummings. 1.00

00:48:19.000 You know why Cummings is bad? 0.98

00:48:20.000 Because she's not Hispanic. 1.00

00:48:22.000 She's not Hispanic and she wrote a book about illegal immigrants who are Hispanic, and now she's been accused of trauma porn and a form of cultural appropriation because she's telling the story of illegal immigrants while being white. 0.72

00:48:33.000 This apparently is very bad.

00:48:34.000 She said in an interview, I worried that as a non-migrant and non-Mexican, I had no business writing a book set almost entirely in Mexico, set entirely among migrants.

00:48:41.000 I wish someone slightly browner than me would write it.

00:48:43.000 But then I thought, if you're a person who has the capacity to be a bridge, why not be a bridge?

00:48:47.000 That doesn't seem unreasonable.

00:48:49.000 Why does the color of the skin, the person pushing for a particular political agenda, have to match the color of the skin of the characters in the book? 0.97

00:48:57.000 That's patently silly.

00:49:00.000 She claims she has spent hundreds of hours traveling with migrants and studying them. 0.95

00:49:02.000 Apparently the woke critics are not okay with this.

00:49:05.000 Also, Cummings portrays the United States as a great place to be, and woke progressives are upset about this.

00:49:10.000 A critic said, American dirt fails to convey any Mexican sensibility.

00:49:14.000 It aspires to be Dia de las Muertas, but instead embodies Halloween. 0.99

00:49:18.000 And Mexicanas get raped in the U.S. 1.00

00:49:20.000 too. 0.99

00:49:21.000 Okay, let's just be clear about this.

00:49:22.000 The rate of rape on these caravan trains and by coyotes is not close to the rape of women in the United States.

00:49:30.000 Those are not comparable in any way.

00:49:33.000 The critic says, you know better.

00:49:34.000 You know how dangerous the U.S.

00:49:35.000 is.

00:49:36.000 You still chose to frame this place as a sanctuary.

00:49:38.000 It's not.

00:49:38.000 Okay, so question.

00:49:39.000 If it's not a sanctuary, then why are millions of people trying to get in?

00:49:42.000 Seriously, why are the caravans going this way and not that way?

00:49:44.000 If this is not a sanctuary, why are people trying to cross the border?

00:49:47.000 Weird.

00:49:48.000 People don't typically try to get into places that are less safe than the places they came from.

00:49:53.000 And people are very upset about this, because they say that there was border-chic barbed wire at the centerpieces at America Dirt's book release party.

00:50:01.000 There was concern that writers of color would never be offered a seven-figure advance.

00:50:04.000 Selma Hayek originally endorsed the book, and then she backed off her endorsement.

00:50:08.000 She said, oh, I didn't read it.

00:50:10.000 She was forced to correct her endorsement.

00:50:12.000 No joke.

00:50:13.000 No joke. 1.00

00:50:15.000 And this was promoted by the idiots writing these critiques. 1.00

00:50:18.000 So happy Salma Hayek reflected and corrected her support of the book. 1.00

00:50:22.000 Corrected her support of the book.

00:50:23.000 And Oprah is saying we have to rethink this and have a deeper conversation.

00:50:26.000 Which again is sort of wonderfully delicious in terms of the karmic justice in all of this.

00:50:32.000 Hey, Raffaella Zachariah has a piece over at CNN today criticizing American Dirt. 1.00

00:50:38.000 It says, in part fueled by the book's breakout success, bitter controversy has sprung up around American Dirt.

00:50:42.000 An increasing number of Mexican-Americans and Latinx writers and readers, by the way, the number of Latinos and Latinas in the United States who prefer to be referred to as Latinx is approaching zero, have objected to what they see as Cummins' appropriation and marketing of a story that isn't hers to a mainstream, largely white audience.

00:50:57.000 Because obviously, if you're talking about an issue that affects brown people to a white audience, and you're a white person, that's supes racist.

00:51:04.000 Super terrible. 0.98

00:51:05.000 Amazing.

00:51:05.000 By the way, I wonder what they would have made of the Civil Rights Movement, wherein many white people were talking about the plight of black people to other white people.

00:51:11.000 I wonder what- You know, there were zero black people who were sitting in the United States Senate, as far as I'm aware, at the time of the Civil Rights Act.

00:51:18.000 So there were a lot of white people talking to a lot of other white people, and it was a really good thing, because that's how you got the Civil Rights Act. 0.63

00:51:23.000 Many have denounced the book or taken to social media and other platforms to appeal to readers to, as Miriam Gerba put it on Twitter, read something told in our own voices.

00:51:31.000 New York Times reviewer Parul Sehgal called the book enviably easy to read and determinably apolitical.

00:51:37.000 And Oprah said, from the first sentence I was in, this helps explain why the book is such a problem, says the CNN writer.

00:51:43.000 Again, this is a left-wing book about how evil America's immigration system is. 0.55

00:51:46.000 What Sehgal and Oprah are describing is a book that is utterly absorbing to a passive reader, which is bad.

00:51:51.000 You don't want books that people like.

00:51:53.000 You want books that people hate.

00:51:55.000 Typically, books that generate empathy in the absence of politics run into trouble, according to many critics, because the empathy feels empty.

00:51:59.000 following two sentences.

00:52:00.000 Get ready for it.

00:52:01.000 This is amazing.

00:52:02.000 Typically, books that generate empathy in the absence of politics run into trouble, according to many critics, because the empathy feels empty.

00:52:08.000 Harriet Beecher Stowe's Uncle Tom's Cabin stands as perhaps the best example of this phenomenon.

00:52:13.000 Harriet Beecher Stowe's Uncle Tom's Cabin was one of the leading drivers of abolitionist sentiment in the United States by virtually every historical account and maybe led to the election So if you're going to talk about books that are bad, you should not put Uncle Tom's Cabin on the list of books that are bad.

00:52:30.000 Yes, it was written by a white lady about the plight of slaves and how evil slavery was, and it was written as a third-hand account.

00:52:36.000 And slaveholders said that it was an exaggeration and all of this.

00:52:39.000 And it was one of the great feats of American literature of the 19th century, and maybe in American history, specifically because it drove support for abolitionism.

00:52:47.000 And here this person is saying that's not good enough.

00:52:48.000 Should have been a black person. 1.00

00:52:51.000 Unbelievable. 0.99

00:52:52.000 Unbelievable. 0.98

00:52:53.000 But this is how crazy the left is.

00:52:54.000 They're undercutting their own causes, so long as the person who's pushing the cause is not sufficiently, is not sufficiently leveled up in melanin.

00:53:04.000 This is where we have come.

00:53:05.000 So that's why it's a thing I hate, because it's just another evidence that while I enjoy the woke left eating itself, and that's fun, while I enjoy watching these snowflakes devour one another, at the same time it is very bad for the country when identity politics is so strong that even if you push the left-wing agenda, if you don't have the right skin color, this is somehow cultural appropriation and very, very bad.

00:53:24.000 This is the polarization and the destruction of the country in real time.

00:53:28.000 Again, I don't even know the book.

00:53:29.000 I haven't read the book. 0.98

00:53:29.000 I probably, from the reviews, probably wouldn't enjoy the book very much, but I will say that a white lady writing a book about the plight of illegal immigrants is not inherently a bad thing, and anyone who says it is is either an idiot or has a badly motivated view of what the United States ought to be. 0.98

00:53:44.000 Okay, we'll be back here later today with two additional hours of content, all your impeachment updates and all the rest.

00:53:48.000 We'll see you a little bit later, or we'll see you here tomorrow.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - January 29, 2020

The First Real Peace Plan | Ep. 942

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