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The Global Thermonuclear War Episode | Ep. 358


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00:00:00.000 On today's show, there will be so much fire, so much fury, and frankly, power.
00:00:04.000 Fire, fury, and power.
00:00:06.000 With regard to North Korea, we'll go through all of the things having to do with North Korea.
00:00:10.000 Plus, Ashley Judd gets very angry when a guy says that she's a sweetheart.
00:00:14.000 Well, that's weird.
00:00:15.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.
00:00:16.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.
00:00:23.000 So on Passover, Jews do a prayer in the middle of the Haggadah where it talks about God bringing his wrath down upon the Egyptians and it says that God brings the band of emissary of evils and the hand of God and the finger of God and fire and fury.
00:00:38.000 And basically Trump decided that he was going to quote the Haggadah yesterday with regard to North Korea.
00:00:42.000 We'll go through all of that.
00:00:44.000 The left seems much more perturbed with President Trump than they are with Kim Jong-un, which is very weird to me and quasi-disgusting.
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00:03:03.000 Now to the news portion of our show.
00:03:05.000 So, let's talk about what's going on with North Korea.
00:03:07.000 So, over the last couple of days, it's reported that North Korea, Kim Jong-un, who looks like a dog-chewed tennis ball that got really pissed at the world, Kim Jong-un, he's developed apparently a nuclear weapon that is capable of fitting in a warhead which can be fitted to his ICBMs, his intercontinental ballistic missiles.
00:03:25.000 This, of course, would give him the capacity to hit Los Angeles.
00:03:28.000 The bad news about that is it would end the show.
00:03:30.000 The good news about that is that it would wipe out Hollywood.
00:03:32.000 But, it is really not a great thing that they can hit the United States with their missile technology.
00:03:36.000 Now, particularly not with a nuke.
00:03:38.000 That is scary stuff, and Kim Jong-un happens to be one crazy loon bag crazy man.
00:03:42.000 So, none of this is good.
00:03:45.000 Now, President Trump did something really good over the weekend.
00:03:47.000 He got through the UN Security Council a 15-0 resolution to place new sanctions on North Korea.
00:03:55.000 That's a good thing.
00:03:56.000 Even China and Russia voted for it.
00:03:57.000 He's also talking about taking economic measures against China in an attempt to press them to stop their material support for the Kim Jong-un regime.
00:04:05.000 This seems like a positive move.
00:04:08.000 I don't have any easy answers on North Korea because I'm not privy to the military plans.
00:04:14.000 I can tell you what the general situation is.
00:04:17.000 North Korea has 20,000 pieces of ordinance that are pointed at Seoul.
00:04:21.000 Seoul is a city of millions of people.
00:04:23.000 You could easily see a situation in which the United States launches a military strike on Pyongyang and Kim Jong-un basically pulls a string and suddenly Seoul 100, 200,000 people are dead in the middle of the capital of South Korea.
00:04:36.000 I mean, it's that close.
00:04:37.000 So that obviously is weighing heavily on the minds of the people in national security positions.
00:04:42.000 You know, you sort of hope that they have better plans than that.
00:04:44.000 You sort of hope that they have the capacity
00:04:46.000 We're good.
00:05:10.000 The North Koreans developed this new weapon.
00:05:14.000 They are now talking about having a long-range missile.
00:05:16.000 Once they have that, it makes it very difficult for the United States to take a preemptive strike because what happens if, as in their death throes, the North Koreans fire off their ICBM with a nuke attached to the top of it at Los Angeles?
00:05:28.000 That's the problem with them having a nuke.
00:05:30.000 North Korea best not make any more threats to the United States.
00:06:01.000 They will be met with fire and fury like the world has never seen.
00:06:07.000 He has been very threatening beyond a normal statement.
00:06:15.000 And as I said, they will be met with fire, fury, and frankly, power.
00:06:20.000 The likes of which this world has never seen before.
00:06:25.000 Thank you.
00:06:26.000 So everybody took that as him basically making a threat that he's going to nuke North Korea.
00:06:30.000 And that's because of this phrase that he ends there with.
00:06:34.000 He could end with, we're going to meet them with fire and fury and emissary of evil and a band of demons and we're going to unleash all the power people, all of it.
00:06:43.000 Right, he could have said that, but when he says, beyond anything we've ever seen, that makes it sound like he's actually gonna, I mean, look at Tom Price's face here.
00:06:49.000 It actually sounds like Trump wants to nuke North Korea, and a lot of people are freaked out about that because Trump is unpredictable.
00:06:55.000 He doesn't know much about nuclear power.
00:06:57.000 I mean, he didn't know what the nuclear triad was in the middle of the campaign.
00:07:00.000 So people are freaked out about that.
00:07:03.000 I don't take it that seriously.
00:07:04.000 I don't think Trump is talking about nuking North Korea and starting some sort of nuclear world war three with North Korea.
00:07:10.000 He uses that phrase all the time, right?
00:07:12.000 When he says more than anything we've ever seen before.
00:07:14.000 Like he says that with regard to his election victory.
00:07:16.000 He said that with regard to congressional malfeasance.
00:07:19.000 He said that with regard to Obamacare.
00:07:21.000 This language of anything we've ever seen before.
00:07:23.000 It's just like a throwaway line that he likes to use at the end of things.
00:07:26.000 I tweeted yesterday one of the problems of the president who speaks only in superlatives is you actually don't know when he's serious.
00:07:31.000 If you constantly are saying everything is the best, everything is the grandest.
00:07:34.000 Like my grandfather was like this very enthusiastic guy, my grandpa.
00:07:37.000 And Papa used to say everything was the most exciting, everything was the best, everything was the most incredible.
00:07:42.000 And so you never knew whether something was actually great or whether he had just gotten like a scoop of ice cream.
00:07:47.000 Like you didn't know what exactly was happening.
00:07:50.000 The same thing is true of Trump.
00:07:51.000 He speaks constantly in superlatives.
00:07:53.000 And so do you know what he's talking about?
00:07:55.000 The answer is really not so much.
00:07:57.000 Now, is that a huge deal?
00:07:59.000 Not really.
00:08:00.000 I mean, the fact is that, you know, everybody's going nuts over this.
00:08:03.000 You know, people are saying, oh, he's going to start World War III.
00:08:05.000 No, he's not going to start World War III.
00:08:08.000 And the situation in North Korea is not Trump's fault.
00:08:10.000 The media is already attempting to place blame at Trump's feet for the situation in North Korea.
00:08:15.000 Obviously that's not true.
00:08:16.000 I'm going to go through the history of American malfeasance with regard to North Korea.
00:08:19.000 Trump's been on the job for like five minutes, okay?
00:08:21.000 This is not Donald Trump's fault in any real way.
00:08:23.000 I do want to show you this meme that a pro-Trumper tweeted at me yesterday, and I just thought this was hilarious.
00:08:29.000 This is from the last episode of Game of Thrones, in case you can't see it.
00:08:33.000 And it is Kim Jong-un sitting there next to Jamie Lannister.
00:08:36.000 Best not make any more threats to the United States.
00:08:41.000 They will be met with fire and fury like the world has never seen.
00:08:50.000 So it's Trump as Daenerys Targaryen riding the dragon into battle while Kim Jong-un sits there looking confused.
00:08:58.000 So that is pretty spectacular.
00:09:00.000 And of course, it's true that if we were to get into some sort of actual firefight with North Korea, this sucker's over in five minutes.
00:09:06.000 I mean, the United States took out the third largest military on planet Earth in Iraq in three weeks.
00:09:11.000 You know, yes, it broke out into an insurgency afterward, but if we're just talking about destroying top-down the administration in North Korea, we could do that in under 15 minutes.
00:09:19.000 Sebastian Gorka, who I think has been... I think he's really been wrongly maligned by a lot of people.
00:09:24.000 He's a National Security Advisor to President Trump, who's on Sean Hannity's show last night, and he says, listen, North Korea is a lot of bluster and a lot of talk, led by a short, fat dwarf, but we should really note that this is a very, very weak country.
00:09:40.000 Is that enough to stop this madman?
00:09:42.000 Or is he even mad?
00:09:43.000 He's just, again, he likes to cause trouble on the world stage.
00:09:48.000 This is not the Cold War.
00:09:50.000 Remember during the Cold War we had this phrase, correlation of forces.
00:09:54.000 We had a balance.
00:09:55.000 We had a standoff.
00:09:56.000 More than 20,000 nuclear warheads on either side.
00:09:59.000 This is not the Soviet Union.
00:10:01.000 This is a Potemkin village.
00:10:03.000 This regime cannot even feed its own people.
00:10:06.000 That's how much of a paper tiger it is.
00:10:09.000 So now they have to send a very clear message.
00:10:11.000 Rex Tillerson today at the ASEAN meeting said,
00:10:16.000 Okay, so, he's obviously correct, but the problem is, what sort of threat can you actually leverage against North Korea that's credible?
00:10:33.000 This is the only problem with Trump's language.
00:10:35.000 Because Trump says things, and then there's no real follow-through, you don't know what to take seriously.
00:10:40.000 It actually emboldens our enemies in certain ways.
00:10:42.000 So, for example, you see that clip?
00:10:44.000 If they make any more threats, fire, fury, dragon fire.
00:10:50.000 What's the word that she says when she launches the dragon fire?
00:10:53.000 In any case, it's that, right?
00:10:55.000 That's what Trump is saying.
00:10:57.000 And the problem is that North Korea immediately comes out and immediately says, well, okay, fine, we're going to sink Guam, right?
00:11:05.000 That's what they came out.
00:11:06.000 They said, okay, well, we'll fire a missile at Guam.
00:11:08.000 Okay, well, that's another threat.
00:11:09.000 And the United States didn't really have any retaliation for that.
00:11:11.000 Apparently we're going to send some missile defense over to Guam.
00:11:13.000 But here's the truth.
00:11:14.000 Everybody is overheated about all of this.
00:11:16.000 So the left is super overheated about all of this.
00:11:19.000 CNN says, we're all gonna die!
00:11:21.000 This tiny, you know, stupid country led by, you know, the country's fine, but the stupid guy, the evil piece of garbage who leads the country, he's gonna nuke us all.
00:11:30.000 We're all gonna die because he finally has fitted a nuclear warhead to an ICBM, even though we don't know the ICBM works, we don't know if the warhead works, and this guy is basically relegated to getting bad haircuts and killing his relatives in airports with anthrax.
00:11:42.000 All right, here is CNN losing its mind, right, basically doing the 1950s style, everybody get under your desk because we're all gonna have to prep.
00:11:49.000 Duck and cover for the nuclear attack.
00:11:52.000 This picture purports to show Kim Jong-un with a miniaturized nuclear weapon.
00:11:57.000 People laughed at it when it came out last year.
00:11:59.000 But now, if they believe this is the real deal, what does it show us?
00:12:03.000 Well, it would suggest that this would be about two feet across.
00:12:07.000 Experts say it might weigh 500, 600 pounds, something like that.
00:12:11.000 And it would have potentially the destructive potential of those bombs that you mentioned, which the United States dropped on Japan 72 years ago this week.
00:12:21.000 But look at the difference in size.
00:12:23.000 Each of these was 10 to 11 feet long, weighed around something around 10,000 pounds.
00:12:29.000 These had to be carried by a heavy bomber.
00:12:32.000 This is a different thing altogether.
00:12:35.000 In this case, maybe you are talking about something that can fit in the nose cone of one of their existing missiles.
00:12:41.000 If that is the case, it changes the game because their last missile test went
00:12:46.000 2300 miles up into space, way above the space station, way above many satellites out there.
00:12:51.000 Yeah, it only went 621 land miles, but that's because it basically went straight up and came straight down.
00:12:58.000 Some scientists say if you flatten out that trajectory, if you fire it across the Earth, then you could reach Guam, you could reach Hawaii, Alaska.
00:13:07.000 And some scientists say, based on the weight of the payload,
00:13:12.000 In theory, they could reach about half of the United States and some major cities in here.
00:13:18.000 Okay, so we're all gonna die, everybody be scared.
00:13:20.000 Now, listen, is it fine for CNN to show us what North Korea's capacity is?
00:13:25.000 Sure, but the kind of scare tactics that they're using are just ridiculous.
00:13:29.000 Okay, there's Fareed Zakaria of CNN, he comes out and he says, the real threat here is Donald Trump.
00:13:34.000 And here's where the left really loses their mind.
00:13:37.000 Okay, I'm gonna go through the history of the North Korean situation and show you why this is not Trump's fault.
00:13:41.000 But the left is basically saying, if anything bad here happens, it's obviously because of Trump.
00:13:46.000 We had Blaine Bush, and then we had eight years of Obama existing, and we don't care about what Obama did, because basically his entire tenure goes into a black hole, according to the media.
00:13:55.000 It was just sunshine and rainbows for eight years.
00:13:57.000 But now Trump is president again, and whatever Trump does has to be wrong, so here's Fareed Zachariah saying it's just terrible what Trump said about that crazy little nutjob, Kim Jong-un.
00:14:07.000 What worried me about it is the kind of rhetoric Donald Trump used is the kind of rhetoric the North Koreans use.
00:14:13.000 It's not the kind of rhetoric the United States of America uses.
00:14:16.000 We are measured.
00:14:17.000 We are careful.
00:14:18.000 We match our words with deeds.
00:14:21.000 We do not go out and say, you know, make these kind of outlandish claims, which frankly will not be met.
00:14:28.000 We will not, let me confidently say, respond to North Korea with fire and fury the kind of which the world has never seen before.
00:14:38.000 Okay, so it's so terrible.
00:14:39.000 How could Donald Trump use this language?
00:14:40.000 Direct quote, Bill Clinton, 1993.
00:14:43.000 It would mean the end of their country as they know it.
00:14:46.000 It's Bill Clinton who said that about North Korea if they were to use a nuclear weapon.
00:14:50.000 It would mean the end of their country as they know it.
00:14:52.000 Okay, so apparently, you know, it's the end of the world if Trump uses this sort of language.
00:14:55.000 Well, when Bill Clinton used that sort of language, no problem at all.
00:14:58.000 Another MSNBC analyst says the same thing.
00:15:01.000 Well, Trump, he's just like a North Korean leader.
00:15:02.000 I mean, he's just like that.
00:15:03.000 You know, I make a joke about the sort of language that he uses, but they actually take that seriously.
00:15:08.000 The president sounds like a North Korean leader.
00:15:10.000 Kim Jong-il, Kim Jong-un, the son of Kim Jong-il, they all talked about literally sea of fire.
00:15:19.000 That was the threat that they used more often than not.
00:15:22.000 I used to have a huge file folder of all the crazy, colorful things that the North Koreans would say and the names that they would call our American presidents.
00:15:31.000 So President Trump sounds more like a North Korean leader, unfortunately, than an American leader.
00:15:36.000 Okay, again, no, not so much.
00:15:39.000 Is the language overblown?
00:15:40.000 Of course it's overblown because that's who Trump is.
00:15:42.000 Do I wish that General James Mattis were in charge of all of our military policy?
00:15:45.000 Yeah, I do.
00:15:47.000 I would be much more comfortable sleeping at night if it were Mattis who were making these sorts of comments, right?
00:15:51.000 Mattis does say this sort of stuff and you have to take it seriously.
00:15:53.000 When Trump says it, you know, he could be talking about contestants on The Apprentice.
00:15:57.000 You just don't know.
00:15:58.000 The left is so intent on making Trump the bad guy that they're forgetting that Trump actually hasn't done anything wrong here, and what he's talking about is perfectly within the realm of possibility.
00:16:08.000 No, he's not talking about nuclear weapons use.
00:16:10.000 Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said that this morning.
00:16:13.000 Again, this is one of the problems with Trump and Twitter, is he went on Twitter and then he said, well, we've modernized our nuclear weapons, so in case we have to use them.
00:16:18.000 But in reality, the White House is not seriously talking about any of that.
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00:18:14.000 And just a final note, on the left, losing its mind over Trump, MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell, who is just an egregiously bad host, he came out and he said, the big problem here is that both North Korea and the United States have unpredictable liars in charge, right?
00:18:28.000 It's the same leadership as North Korea and the United States.
00:18:31.000 Come on now.
00:18:31.000 Come on.
00:18:33.000 His response to that uniquely bad news for his uniquely incompetent and ineffective administration is to simply lie and to say that his administration has achieved more than most.
00:18:48.000 A North Korean regime-style lie.
00:18:51.000 That's Donald Trump's choice in terms of describing the accomplishments of his administration.
00:18:56.000 And so the Trump administration enters its first
00:19:00.000 Deadly, serious, dangerous, international crisis.
00:19:04.000 This time with an unpredictable liar in North Korea and for the first time in American history, the United States has an unpredictable liar who is in control of the nuclear codes that could instantly create fire and fury like the world has never seen.
00:19:21.000 There is no indication that the White House or the President had any intention at all of making any comment about North Korea today.
00:19:29.000 What the President did say was in response to a shouted question by a reporter.
00:19:34.000 Okay, so it's just terrible.
00:19:36.000 Everything that Trump does is wrong.
00:19:37.000 Everything Trump does is bad.
00:19:38.000 Trump is the real threat.
00:19:39.000 You know, this is a constant refrain from the left, and it's getting very irritating.
00:19:42.000 The United States is always the real threat.
00:19:44.000 George W. Bush was a cowboy warmonger.
00:19:46.000 He was the real threat.
00:19:47.000 In the Middle East, Israel is the real threat.
00:19:49.000 In Europe, it's the Europeans who are the real threat.
00:19:51.000 It's always the West that's the real threat.
00:19:53.000 Trump is the real threat.
00:19:54.000 Obama was never the real threat because he was of the left, but anybody who is not hardcore left is part of the problem.
00:20:00.000 You see, it's not just Kim Jong-un.
00:20:02.000 He's an evil dictator who's enslaved millions of people inside of his own country.
00:20:06.000 Starved people to death.
00:20:08.000 You understand that the average height of a North Korean is, I believe, three inches shorter than the average height of a South Korean?
00:20:13.000 They're the same genetic stock, so why is that?
00:20:15.000 It's because of malnutrition.
00:20:17.000 And North Korea is a giant garbage heap.
00:20:18.000 If you look at the satellite photos, you see at night, South Korea completely lit up.
00:20:23.000 You get to North Korea, nothing.
00:20:24.000 Completely black.
00:20:25.000 There are no lights anywhere in North Korea except Kim Jong-un's little palace.
00:20:29.000 So it's just, but don't worry, it's Donald Trump who's the real threat.
00:20:32.000 This is one of the things that maddens me about the left because the fact is that even if you're of the left, you could acknowledge that in times of national crisis like this, in times when you have an evil dictator threatening the United States, maybe you ought to give the president a little bit more credit than to compare him to the evil dictator in a serious way.
00:20:47.000 Maybe you ought to give him a little more credit, because the fact is the United States is still the United States.
00:20:51.000 When Barack Obama did something I disagreed with, when he went into Libya, you know, I disagreed with that.
00:20:56.000 I thought it was a bad move by President Obama to get rid of Muammar Gaddafi.
00:21:00.000 But I never compared Obama to Gaddafi.
00:21:02.000 I never thought they were the same person.
00:21:04.000 That's insane!
00:21:05.000 Okay, to try and compare the American leader to dictators, foreign dictators,
00:21:09.000 I think?
00:21:34.000 If the Soviet Union really wants peace,
00:22:05.000 It can prove it.
00:22:07.000 And could have proved it on any day since last June 25th by joining the rest of the United Nations in calling upon the North Koreans to lay down their arms at once.
00:22:18.000 Okay, so Harry Truman called on the Russians to stop supporting the North Koreans and the Chinese to stop supporting the North Koreans.
00:22:24.000 It never happened.
00:22:24.000 And then the Chinese started pouring people across the border.
00:22:27.000 MacArthur suggested, let's strike China and get this over with right away.
00:22:31.000 And Harry Truman said, no, we're not going to do that and ended up firing MacArthur.
00:22:34.000 North Korea survives.
00:22:35.000 South Korea ends up surviving through the sacrifice of 50,000 American troops.
00:22:39.000 We lost an enormous number of men.
00:22:41.000 In South Korea, attempting to defend a free South Korea.
00:22:44.000 And thank God we did, because South Korea is a flourishing Western country today.
00:22:47.000 It would be another communist dictatorship hellhole if it weren't for the sacrifice of America's brave men in the armed services during the Korean War, the forgotten war in American history, a good war that we fought and retained freedom for millions of people who now live under the threat of a nuclear-armed dictator in North Korea.
00:23:05.000 I want to continue with our little history lesson because this is not about Trump, okay?
00:23:08.000 This is about the West that made the wrong move at every step in the North Korean history.
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00:24:19.000 Harry Truman were involved in the in the Korean War by the end of the Korean War which ends July 27 1953 when there's an armistice sign that creates the Korean demilitarized zone which separates North Korea from South Korea.
00:24:32.000 The conflict was never actually declared a war.
00:24:35.000 It was always considered a police action and it was supposedly to
00:24:38.000 When the enemy struck on that June day of 1950, what did America do?
00:24:41.000 It did what it always has done in all its times of peril.
00:24:43.000 It appealed to the heroism of its youth.
00:25:04.000 This appeal was utterly right and utterly inescapable.
00:25:09.000 It was inescapable not only because this was the only way to defend the idea of collective freedom against savage aggression.
00:25:18.000 That appeal was inescapable because there was now, in the plight into which we had stumbled, no other way to save honor and self-respect.
00:25:30.000 The answer to that appeal has been what any American knew it would be.
00:25:35.000 It has been sheer valor.
00:25:37.000 Valor on all the Korean mountainsides that, each day, bear fresh scars of new graves.
00:25:43.000 Okay, so...
00:25:45.000 And the fact is that the United States intervention is what allowed South Korea to exist, but the reality of Truman's unwillingness to listen to MacArthur's plans to cross the Yalu River and actually strike at the Chinese led both to the continuation of the Chinese regime, which continues to oppress a billion people today, but also the continuation of the North Korean regime.
00:26:03.000 Okay, fast forward to now, we go forward to the Clinton administration.
00:26:07.000 So we've had Kim Il-sung, who is the head of the Kim family in North Korea,
00:26:12.000 And he's been succeeded by Kim Jong-il, who is the father of the current Kim Jong-un.
00:26:16.000 Kim Jong-il was the one who gets made fun of in Team America, if you recall.
00:26:21.000 And he is developing nuclear weapons and he's developing long-range missile capabilities.
00:26:26.000 And Bill Clinton is so concerned about this in 1993 that one of the options that is presented to him is a deal where he would actually
00:26:34.000 We put 10,000 more American troops into South Korea, we would move battle carriers into the region, we'd start evacuating American citizens from that region in preparation, possibly, for a strike against North Korea.
00:26:44.000 And that's when Jimmy Carter goes on CNN, without permission of the Clinton administration, goes on CNN, and he announces on CNN that he's come to an agreement.
00:26:51.000 So Jimmy Carter goes freelancing and creates this framework for an agreement, and then Bill Clinton goes on TV and takes credit for this garbage framework.
00:26:58.000 This is 1994, President Bill Clinton making concessions to an evil terrorist regime.
00:27:05.000 Before I take your questions, I'd like to say just a word about the framework with North Korea that Ambassador Galushi signed this morning.
00:27:12.000 This is a good deal for the United States.
00:27:15.000 North Korea will freeze and then dismantle its nuclear program.
00:27:19.000 South Korea and our other allies will be better protected.
00:27:23.000 The entire world will be safer as we slow the spread of nuclear weapons.
00:27:28.000 South Korea, with support from Japan and other nations, will bear most of the cost of providing North Korea with fuel to make up for the nuclear energy it is losing.
00:27:37.000 And they will pay for an alternative power system for North Korea that will allow them to produce electricity while making it much harder for them to produce nuclear weapons.
00:27:47.000 The United States and international inspectors will carefully monitor North Korea to make sure it keeps its commitments.
00:27:54.000 Only as it does so will North Korea fully join the community of nations.
00:28:15.000 After all, if the West is just gonna keep capitulating and capitulating and capitulating, then the best thing that you can do is ratchet up the amount of weaponry that you have in order to prevent and forestall a military strike.
00:28:26.000 On North Korea.
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00:30:07.000 So again, the media are blaming Trump.
00:30:09.000 They're suggesting, oh, Trump is the one who screwed everything up with regard to North Korea.
00:30:12.000 Okay, so we've just shown you how Truman screwed up North Korea, how Ike signed an armistice, but that armistice led to the continuation of North Korea.
00:30:21.000 We've shown you how Bill Clinton screwed up North Korea, and then he screws it up further.
00:30:23.000 So, this is really funny.
00:30:25.000 It's funny how the media twists these things.
00:30:27.000 I was watching a documentary, I think it was done by the New York Times, about North Korea and the nuclear deal that Bill Clinton did.
00:30:33.000 And what's really hilarious about this is they try to blame it on Bush.
00:30:37.000 So, everything has to be blamed on Bush.
00:30:39.000 So, Clinton signs this crappy deal, and then they say, well, congressional Republicans came in and undermined the deal.
00:30:45.000 No, that's not correct.
00:30:47.000 Bill Clinton continued to fund the deal, he continued to make concessions, and this
00:30:52.000 Ridiculous, this ridiculous lawn gnome, uh, you know, Kim Jong-un, uh, he builds, uh, Kim Jong-il, his father, builds up a, a missile program, continues to build nuclear arms, and so Bill Clinton deploys Madeleine Albright in the late 90s to go over and give Kim Jong, Kim Jong-il a basketball and make nice with him.
00:31:13.000 Listen to how delusional.
00:31:14.000 You want to hear delusional?
00:31:15.000 Listen to how delusional Madeleine Albright, the, the Secretary of State under Bill Clinton, was about Kim Jong-il at the time.
00:31:23.000 I went having been briefed on what kind of a weirdo he was from our own people.
00:31:28.000 He was portrayed as reclusive like with many girlfriends and watching porno movies and basically a very weird kind of person that you had no idea what he was going to be like.
00:31:42.000 He was actually quite charming.
00:31:51.000 While I knew all the terrible things that he had done, I could at least make the distinction that he wasn't crazy.
00:32:00.000 He was very, very well prepared, responded without notes, was not only respectful, but also interested in what I had to say.
00:32:16.000 The talks with Secretary Albright lead to a remarkable breakthrough.
00:32:20.000 Kim Jong-il puts his missile program on the table.
00:32:24.000 He offers to end all exports of ballistic missiles.
00:32:29.000 He offers to freeze the production, deployment, and testing of all ballistic missiles with a range of 300 miles or more.
00:32:38.000 Okay, and so the claim here is that the Clintons were right on the verge of a breakthrough and then evil George Bush came along and sunk all of that.
00:32:47.000 Absolute nonsense.
00:32:48.000 Kim Jong-il was going to continue building these missiles no matter what because he'd been doing so for the past 15 years, okay?
00:32:54.000 The idea that it was Bush that ruined everything is just absolute hogwash.
00:32:58.000 It is absolute nonsense, okay?
00:33:00.000 And then, finally, you know, the Kim regime
00:33:04.000 Uh, begins test firing nuclear weapons and missiles, uh, in 2003, 2004.
00:33:09.000 Bush declares them part of the Axis of Evil.
00:33:11.000 And now we fast forward to 2009.
00:33:12.000 You want to hear some tough talk that means nothing?
00:33:14.000 Barack Obama spent eight years doing nothing about the burgeoning missile capabilities of the North Koreans.
00:33:19.000 This is him in 2009 saying, don't worry, there are gonna be lots of consequences.
00:33:24.000 Consequences like, like stuff that I say.
00:33:28.000 Right here.
00:33:29.000 From my mouth.
00:33:30.000 With words.
00:33:31.000 Barack Obama, go.
00:33:33.000 North Korea's nuclear and ballistic missile programs pose a grave threat to the peace and security of the world, and I strongly condemn their reckless action.
00:33:44.000 North Korea's actions endanger the people of Northeast Asia.
00:33:49.000 They are a blatant violation of international law, and they contradict North Korea's own prior commitments.
00:33:57.000 Now, the United States and the international community must take action
00:34:02.000 In response, the record's clear.
00:34:05.000 North Korea has previously committed to abandoning its nuclear program.
00:34:10.000 Instead of following through on that commitment, it has chosen to ignore that commitment.
00:34:19.000 Its actions have also flown in the face of the United Nations resolutions.
00:34:25.000 As a result, North Korea is not only deepening its own isolation, it's also inviting stronger international pressure.
00:34:32.000 Yeah, clearly that's what's happening.
00:34:33.000 Okay, so again, all of this is nonsense, and now here comes Trump, and he's just fire and fury, and everyone goes, Oh my God!
00:34:38.000 He's gonna kill us all!
00:34:39.000 We're all gonna die!
00:34:41.000 Okay, the chances here are that the North Koreans are just attempting to dissuade the United States from doing all of this.
00:34:48.000 If we were to take a preemptive military strike, if there was that possibility without killing hundreds of thousands of South Koreans, it certainly should be on the table.
00:34:55.000 And the fact that the United States has for so long done nothing, for 50 years done nothing about the burgeoning threat, in fact forwarding their nuclear capacity, and then saying strong things without meaning anything?
00:35:05.000 Like, one of two things is happening with Trump here.
00:35:06.000 Either he means it, in which case that would be more than presidents for the last five decades have meant, or he doesn't mean anything, in which case he's perfectly within line with Bill Clinton and Barack Obama.
00:35:14.000 But you can't pretend that he is some sort of complete nutcase who's doing something that is random and insane and where the real threat is Donald Trump.
00:35:21.000 That's a bunch of leftist claptrap.
00:35:23.000 It's a piece of propaganda that is not helpful to the situation at all, at all.
00:35:29.000 Okay, so in other news, in non-North Korea related news,
00:35:32.000 And the big story of the day is that FBI agents have raided the Alexandria home of President Trump's former campaign chairman late last month, according to the Washington Post, using a search warrant to seize documents and other materials, according to people familiar with the special counsel investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election.
00:35:48.000 Federal agents appeared at Paul Manafort's home without advance warning in the predawn hours of July 26th, the day after he met voluntarily with the staff of the Senate Intelligence Committee.
00:35:58.000 The search warrant was wide-ranging.
00:36:00.000 Okay, so the reason that this is very important is because if you actually have a search warrant,
00:36:16.000 That requires you to actually demonstrate to a judge probable cause.
00:36:19.000 That is how you actually get a search warrant legally.
00:36:21.000 That means probable cause that you think a crime has been committed.
00:36:23.000 The chances are very good that Paul Manafort is going to end up on the wrong end of an indictment here.
00:36:28.000 And that in turn is going to be a problem for Trump because Trump, he was Trump's campaign manager for three months in the middle of the campaign and Trump is going to claim that he didn't know anything that Manafort was doing.
00:36:37.000 We still don't know if the prosecution of Manafort would have to do with his activities during the campaign
00:36:41.000 Or whether it was just him doing illegal stuff outside the campaign, that has yet to be seen.
00:36:46.000 But it's a cloud looming over the Trump administration.
00:36:49.000 And again, hard to say that Manafort isn't guilty of anything or that it's a witch hunt of Manafort when it's been clear for years that Paul Manafort is deeply embedded and involved with the Russian government.
00:37:00.000 I mean, again, I told you about this.
00:37:02.000 I was approached by somebody back in like 2012, I think.
00:37:05.000 No, it's
00:37:24.000 Stooge essentially.
00:37:25.000 So this would not be any great shock, but it has the potential to dirty up the Trump campaign.
00:37:29.000 You could certainly see a situation in which people say Trump's campaign manager, Paul Manafort, that he was a Russian stooge.
00:37:37.000 Trump was working with him because he was a Russian stooge.
00:37:41.000 It's just too early to say.
00:37:42.000 So before we all go off on the witch hunt tangent and say that Mueller is exceeding his grasp right here, Manafort's been dirty for a long time, and this is not a great shock.
00:37:50.000 I've said for months that if anybody in the Trump campaign was going to come down with criminal indictments, it was probably going to be Manafort.
00:37:55.000 And then the question was going to be, what did Trump know?
00:37:57.000 When did he know it?
00:37:57.000 And what activities was Manafort engaged in?
00:37:59.000 With regards to the campaign.
00:38:00.000 So, before the media jumps to Trump's guilty of everything, and before the right jumps to the Trump is guilty of nothing routine, let's hear the evidence that's presented.
00:38:07.000 I think that's a reasonable position.
00:38:09.000 Okay.
00:38:09.000 Time for some things I like, and then some things that I hate, and then I'll do a short Bible talk.
00:38:13.000 So, things I like.
00:38:15.000 We've been doing books about communism.
00:38:18.000 So, George Orwell's most famous book about communism is 1984.
00:38:21.000 It's funny, the left keeps saying, oh, it's not about communism, it's about fascism.
00:38:25.000 Guys, it's about communism.
00:38:26.000 George Orwell also wrote Animal Farm, which is clearly about communism, and he wrote what I think is actually his best book, a book called Homage to Catalonia.
00:38:35.000 And it is about how George Orwell himself went and embedded with the communist troops in the Spanish Civil War, and he gradually realized that he was fighting on behalf of some bad guys.
00:38:45.000 That yes, the fascists were bad, but so were the communists.
00:38:47.000 And Homage to Catalonia is all about his gradual realization that he was fighting on the side of people who wanted some pretty evil and egregious things.
00:38:55.000 It's, I think, his best written book.
00:38:57.000 I really love Homage to Catalonia.
00:38:58.000 It's a forgotten classic.
00:38:59.000 You should go and check it out at Amazon.com.
00:39:02.000 It is, as The New Yorker says, probably the best book on the Spanish Civil War.
00:39:06.000 And Orwell is just a terrific writer.
00:39:08.000 I mean, everything Orwell wrote is worth reading.
00:39:10.000 And this book is...
00:39:11.000 Like, seriously, nobody ever looks at this book, and you should, because I think it's better than 1984, I think it's better than Animal Farm.
00:39:17.000 Okay, time for some things that I hate.
00:39:19.000 So, a couple of things that I hate, particularly, Stephen Miller was on TV last night.
00:39:26.000 One of the things I cannot stand is just the level of sycophancy of some people in the Trump administration toward Trump.
00:39:33.000 It's just, it's off-putting, it's egregious, it demonstrates that this is all that Trump cares about, and that's really gross.
00:39:38.000 So yesterday there was a report
00:39:40.000 Okay, that's not good.
00:39:56.000 That's not good.
00:39:57.000 Okay, that's the kind of narcissism that leads to bad decision-making.
00:40:00.000 And then you have members of his communications staff going on TV and seeing how deeply they can bury their nose in his ass in order to elevate themselves in Trump's mind.
00:40:09.000 So they're performing for an audience of one Stephen Miller, who's a very smart guy.
00:40:12.000 I know Stephen.
00:40:13.000 You know, Stephen, who is a policy wonk when it comes to immigration.
00:40:16.000 He's on Tucker Carlson last night and he unleashes this broad side of inanity with regard to President Trump's myriad qualities.
00:40:25.000 President Trump's the most gifted politician of our time and he's the best orator to hold that office in generations.
00:40:30.000 And so we're going to take the message out to the people.
00:40:33.000 Because you said he is the leader of this nationwide and worldwide populist movement.
00:40:38.000 Okay, really?
00:40:39.000 He's the greatest orator in modern history?
00:40:42.000 Really, is he?
00:40:43.000 He's the greatest politician of our time?
00:40:45.000 Amazing stuff.
00:40:46.000 Amazing stuff from Stephen Miller.
00:40:47.000 In fact, we have a clip of Stephen Miller.
00:40:48.000 This is back in the 1950s when Stephen Miller was defending a guy he used to serve in the army with named Raymond Shaw.
00:40:54.000 We have some clips of him and Sarah Huckabee Sanders and other members of the Trump administration talking about this Raymond Shaw character.
00:41:03.000 Raymond Shaw is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life.
00:41:10.000 Raymond Shaw is the bravest, kindest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life.
00:41:15.000 I said Raymond Shaw is the kindest, warmest, bravest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life.
00:41:20.000 Of course, that's all from The Manchurian Candidate.
00:41:23.000 In that movie, these people have actually been brainwashed in Manchuria by the Chinese government because Raymond Shaw is actually a Chinese spy.
00:41:30.000 That, of course, is not what is happening here, but
00:41:32.000 Really, can we cut out the sycophancy?
00:41:33.000 Like, Mr. President, I gave you a piece of advice yesterday.
00:41:37.000 It was, shut up, let your administration do its job, because when that happens, good things happen.
00:41:42.000 Another piece of advice.
00:41:43.000 Please, tell your comms people they don't have to go on TV and reenact the first scene from King Lear, where King Lear's daughters go up before King Lear and just... and just...
00:41:53.000 Kiss his ass.
00:41:54.000 Like, please, just stop it.
00:41:55.000 Because it's a bad look.
00:41:56.000 It doesn't make you look any better.
00:41:58.000 You think that it helps the American people?
00:41:59.000 It doesn't help the American people.
00:42:00.000 It makes it look like you are self-absorbed.
00:42:03.000 And we don't like self-absorbed presidents, as a general rule.
00:42:05.000 It doesn't end well for them.
00:42:07.000 Okay, other things that I hate today.
00:42:09.000 So, Roy Moore
00:42:11.000 All right.
00:42:31.000 President Trump yesterday came out and endorsed Roy Moore's opponent in this race.
00:42:34.000 He endorsed, instead of Roy Moore, he endorsed Luther Strange, the current interim senator, who is very much in bed with Mitch McConnell.
00:42:41.000 Roy Moore is a much better candidate, and it's sad to me that Luther Strange, who unfortunately does not have the power to control time and space, Dr. Strange, but it is sad to me that President Trump endorsed the wrong guy.
00:42:54.000 Here is some of Roy Moore's ad.
00:42:55.000 This is the guy who should be in a runoff for Senate in Alabama.
00:42:59.000 They lied about repealing Obamacare.
00:43:01.000 Now Mitch McConnell's D.C.
00:43:03.000 slime machine's spending millions spreading lies about Roy Moore, bearing false witness.
00:43:08.000 Why?
00:43:09.000 We know why.
00:43:10.000 We all know why.
00:43:11.000 Roy Moore's honest.
00:43:13.000 And Moore's his own man.
00:43:14.000 Moore fears God, stands for the Constitution, fights for what is right, and believes what we believe.
00:43:20.000 Drain the swamp.
00:43:21.000 Send McConnell a message.
00:43:23.000 Send them all a message.
00:43:25.000 Roy Moore, Senate.
00:43:26.000 My name's Roy Moore and I approve this message.
00:43:28.000 Okay, so Trump endorsed, not Roy Moore, but Mitch McConnell's handpick, Luther Strange.
00:43:33.000 Again, bad move.
00:43:34.000 It's Alabama.
00:43:35.000 Whoever wins the Republican nomination here is going to win the seat.
00:43:38.000 And Trump sided with the establishment.
00:43:39.000 This is not draining the swamp.
00:43:40.000 Okay, final thing that I hate.
00:43:42.000 Ashley Judd is very angry because apparently she was at the airport and some dude called her sweetheart, I guess?
00:43:49.000 And this is just terrible.
00:43:51.000 No man should ever call a woman sweetheart under any circumstances.
00:43:54.000 I'm traveling today, and this is the kind of thing to me that happens, which I categorize as everyday sexism, and it's so easy to let it go, not to
00:44:13.000 Oh, God.
00:44:31.000 And then when I was setting my- What a nasty person.
00:44:33.000 Like, somebody says, sweetheart- There are two ways to say sweetheart.
00:44:36.000 One's like, hey sweetheart.
00:44:37.000 Like, it's a meaning.
00:44:38.000 Okay, another is just to say sweetheart like you're just talking to a person.
00:44:40.000 Like, when an older man talks to a younger woman, that's fairly common.
00:44:43.000 Like, my dad, when he talks to younger women, when he talks to younger women who he's being friendly to, sometimes he'll just say, he'll say sweetheart just like a nice thing.
00:44:52.000 Like, my dad is the cleanest guy I know.
00:44:54.000 I mean, it's just, it's insane for Ashley Judd to get- Like, there's so many things to be offended over in the world.
00:44:59.000 There's so many things to be angry over in the world.
00:45:01.000 Somebody calling you sweetheart or holding a door open for you is not the thing to be offended over.
00:45:04.000 If this offends you, it's because you're a sad, small human being.
00:45:07.000 Okay, really.
00:45:08.000 First of all, ask any dude if they'd be offended if a girl called them sweetheart.
00:45:12.000 Okay, the answer is no.
00:45:13.000 If a girl called a dude sweetheart, we'd be like, that's kind of awesome.
00:45:18.000 Like, it'd be nice if women treated us nicely on a daily basis.
00:45:20.000 That'd be pretty spectacular.
00:45:22.000 So, just ridiculous from Ashley Judd, but the feminist movement is Don Quixote in search of a windmill, and so they will continue to vault at those windmills.
00:45:30.000 Okay, so, final thing.
00:45:32.000 We are going to do a quick, quick, quick Bible review today.
00:45:36.000 So this is from Isaiah chapter 50.
00:45:38.000 So every week the Jews read a portion of the Torah, and then we also read a portion from the prophets and the writings.
00:45:44.000 This is this week's portion.
00:45:46.000 It says, The Lord God opened my ear.
00:45:47.000 I did not rebel.
00:45:47.000 I did not turn away backwards.
00:45:49.000 I gave my back to smiters and my cheeks to them that plucked off the hair.
00:45:52.000 I did not hide my face from embarrassments and spitting, but the Lord God helps me.
00:45:55.000 Therefore, I was not embarrassed.
00:45:57.000 Therefore, I made my face like Flint and I knew I would not be ashamed.
00:46:00.000 So it's interesting because this obviously presages the New Testament section where it talks about turning the other cheek, right?
00:46:05.000 I mean, this is pretty clear language where he says that he turns his cheeks to people who plucked off his hair.
00:46:09.000 You know, what he's saying here is not that you should not speak the truth or that you should give leeway to bad people who harm you.
00:46:16.000 What he is saying is that you should not feel spiritually insulted when people say the wrong thing to you.
00:46:20.000 You should be strong enough in your values that when people say things that are not true about you, you shouldn't take it to heart.
00:46:25.000 You shouldn't be embarrassed.
00:46:26.000 You should make your face like Flint.
00:46:28.000 You shouldn't accept the criticism as meaning that you're a lesser human being.
00:46:31.000 You should understand that being tough in the name of God, you know, being tough on behalf of Judeo-Christian values,
00:46:38.000 These things should give you strength.
00:46:40.000 They should give you the inner strength to know that if people slap you, okay, so whatever, they slap you.
00:46:44.000 Big deal.
00:46:44.000 Big deal.
00:46:45.000 You're stronger than that.
00:46:46.000 Your values are stronger than that.
00:46:47.000 He who vindicates you is near.
00:46:49.000 Whoever wishes to quarrel with you, let us stand together.
00:46:51.000 Whoever is my contender shall approach me.
00:46:53.000 The Lord God shall help me.
00:46:54.000 Who is he that will condemn me?
00:46:55.000 Behold, all of them shall wear out like a garment.
00:46:57.000 A moth shall consume them.
00:46:58.000 And this is right.
00:46:59.000 People who espouse the wrong values in life, they do tend to wear out pretty quickly, and so do those values as we are seeing every day from the international hard left.
00:47:08.000 Okay, so we'll be back here tomorrow.
00:47:10.000 Hopefully there won't be a nuclear war in the meantime.
00:47:12.000 That would be unfortunate.
00:47:14.000 I would hate for the world to end while I'm number two to Oprah on iTunes.
00:47:17.000 That would just be sad.
00:47:18.000 So let's make me number one on iTunes, and then if there's nuclear war, I think we all can live with that end of the world.
00:47:22.000 I think we can.
00:47:23.000 Okay, I'm Ben Shapiro.
00:47:24.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.