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00:00:23.000And if you were wondering, yes, I still have my cold.
00:00:25.000That's why I sound so deep-voiced and masculine today.
00:00:28.000But in any case, there's so much to discuss.
00:00:30.000I want to talk about a New York Times column, which is one of the worst columns I have ever seen, in which the author, a professor at Yeshiva University, suggests that his black child should not be allowed to play with white children.
00:00:44.000There are a lot of people who are breaking their Keurig coffee machines, and I'll explain why to you.
00:00:48.000Plus, we'll look at the latest on the Roy Moore accusations.
00:00:50.000Breaking news that Gloria Allred, the famed gadfly and media hound, is supposed to show up in about two hours here and make some announcements.
00:01:00.000She's supposed to have a press conference, I guess.
00:01:02.000In which she announces that there is a second accuser who says that when she was underage, Roy Moore, the Senate Republican candidate in Alabama, sexually assaulted her.
00:01:09.000We'll discuss all of this in just a second, but first, I want to say thank you to our sponsors over at Legacy Box.
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00:01:48.000Instead, they're in your house, and you can take them out, you can look at them whenever you want, and when there's a fire, you just grab the thumb drive instead of trying to schlep 37 pounds of photos on your back out of the family garage.
00:03:12.000They've targeted virtually every major right-wing host has been targeted at some point by Media Matters.
00:03:16.000And Media Matters is a Clinton agitprop organization.
00:03:19.000They were co-founded, essentially, by the Clintons and the Podestas.
00:03:22.000And their entire goal was to defend the Democratic agenda from the outside.
00:03:26.000What they do is they, in some cases, take quotes out of context or make up allegations.
00:03:31.000And then they call up all the advertisers on programs like Sean Hannity, and then they convince them that there are tons of people who are super outraged at these advertisers for advertising on Hannity, and they get them to pull their advertisements.
00:03:43.000So, what they alleged is a couple of things.
00:03:44.000They said that Sean Hannity had said that it was consensual, the allegations about Roy Moore, that he had taken a 14-year-old girl out, that he'd taken her from her home, that he'd stripped her down, that he'd touched her, and then made her touch him.
00:03:58.000They said that Hannity had said that was consensual.
00:04:09.000Here's some clips from the interview with Roy Moore.
00:04:11.000You should remember these clips, because these will also become relevant when we discuss the actual allegations against Roy Moore in the Senate, Republican candidate in Alabama.
00:04:19.000At that time in your life, let me ask you this, you do remember these girls.
00:04:22.000Would it be unusual for you as a 32-year-old guy to have dated a woman as young as 17?
00:04:28.000That would be a 15-year difference or a girl 18.
00:04:31.000Do you remember dating girls that young at that time?
00:04:36.000If I did, you know, I'm not going to dispute anything, but I don't remember anything like that.
00:04:41.000But you don't specifically remember having any girlfriend that was in her late teens even at that time?
00:04:47.000I don't remember that, and I don't remember ever dating any girl without the permission of her mother.
00:04:53.000And I think in her statement, she said that her mother actually encouraged her to go out with him.
00:04:59.000These allegations are completely false and misleading, but more than that, it hurts me personally because, you know, I'm a father, I have one daughter, I have five granddaughters, and I have a special concern for the protection of young ladies.
00:05:12.000Okay, so Moore, you know, there was not good responses by Moore, but it was pretty good interviewing by Hannity.
00:05:17.000Hannity went through each of the charges individually.
00:05:19.000He discussed them at length with Roy Moore.
00:05:23.000Doesn't matter, Media Matters decided they were gonna target Sean anyway, so they go after Keurig by having, by astroturfing a bunch of people to tweet at Keurig, and Keurig responds with this tweet.
00:05:30.000So Keurig responds by saying, Angela, so Angela Carusone is the, is the head of Media Matters.
00:06:49.000The reason we haven't shattered it yet is because if you shatter a machine that you already bought, that doesn't actually involve a boycott.
00:07:52.000The idea here is that whenever the left gets angry, they pressure advertisers to pull advertising from political programming.
00:07:58.000And that's really dangerous because what that ends up doing is creating a market vacuum where people refuse to advertise on places like Fox News.
00:08:05.000You want to know why Fox News is constantly running, you know, catheter ads?
00:08:09.000And why MSNBC, which has lower ratings, is constantly running car ads?
00:08:12.000The reason is because nobody is boycotting the cars, but a lot of people are boycotting cars if they appear on Fox News.
00:08:17.000So long as the left insists on playing this game, playing the game in reverse seems to be justified as a mutually assured destruction scenario.
00:08:24.000It shouldn't be something that we embrace wholeheartedly.
00:08:26.000It shouldn't be something where we say, yeah, boycott advertisers.
00:08:31.000But if the idea here is that you have to teach advertisers, number one, that you can astroturf a call on pretty much anything, and number two, teach the left that this
00:08:39.000This has the same effect on the left that it has on the right, and everybody should put down their guns.
00:08:45.000That seems to me like that would be a worthwhile thing.
00:08:47.000The bottom line here is that Media Matters is a really despicable organization, and they're making up allegations in order to go after Sean.
00:08:52.000There are plenty of things that Media Matters could go after Sean after if they wanted to, but that's not exactly what they decided to do instead.
00:08:57.000They decided to take Sean out of context deliberately in order to go after him, and it's pathetic that advertisers fell prey to that.
00:09:03.000Speaking of taking out of context, there's an article in Time Magazine today that I just want to correct.
00:09:07.000Time Magazine ran an allegation by a girl who was 16, I guess, when she met George H.W.
00:10:11.000What I said on the show is if he did it because he's actually senile, that's a different story than if he did it not being senile, in which case he deserves to be punched, right?
00:10:19.000If somebody grabbed my wife's ass, I would punch them.
00:10:22.000At the very least, I'd push them around a little bit.
00:10:25.000The idea that it's okay if you're not senile but you're old is just ridiculous.
00:10:29.000The idea that old guys can do this stuff, I said it on the show two weeks ago.
00:10:32.000You can go back and listen to the show, but Time Magazine reports that out of context as though I was defending Bush and saying he was senile.
00:10:39.000I was saying if he's senile, that changes the scenario, but if he's not senile, then that's obviously disgusting behavior.
00:10:45.000I, you know, not to toot my own horn here, but I've been pretty damn consistent on the sexual harassment front here.
00:10:50.000I've been pretty consistent on the sexual assault, sexual harassment front, and that's why I'm trying to, you know, on the Roy Moore stuff, be as objective as possible.
00:10:57.000So today, one of the things that I want to do here is
00:10:59.000Go through what I think are five various perspectives that are all being lumped together with regard to the Roy Moore allegations.
00:11:06.000The latest on the Roy Moore allegations, as I say, is that Gloria Allred is saying that she wants to present another accuser who's underage and Roy Moore sexually assaulted her.
00:11:15.000That's the accusation, apparently, according to the mainstream media.
00:11:20.000And Breitbart News also is going out of its way.
00:11:23.000They're sending a couple of different reporters down to Alabama to try and discredit the story about the 14-year-old girl
00:11:29.000Uh, who is, uh, who has accused, now she's, you know, in her fifties, uh, who accused Roy Moore of, uh, of taking her home and then sexually assaulting her, essentially.
00:11:40.000So here are the five perspectives on the Roy Moore saga.
00:11:47.000I don't find it particularly a compelling defense.
00:11:49.000Saying, I always talk to their mothers first is not really an excuse for dating underage girls.
00:11:54.000The idea that when he says, I can't remember dating some of these women, and then he says, well, there's one of these women and I remember being friends with her.
00:12:00.000If you want to call it a date, I guess it's a date.
00:12:02.000None of this speaks well to his recollection of events.
00:12:05.000He was very careful in that interview to say he'd done nothing illegal, but he did not really deny knowledge of anything except this 14-year-old girl.
00:12:12.000Now, the reason the 14-year-old girl, her allegations are credible is because there are supporting details that are credible, right?
00:12:18.000So she says that she met him in court and more basically recruited her outside a courtroom.
00:13:02.000You know, that's it, but that doesn't mean that what he was saying was false.
00:13:05.000And I think we have to separate these things out.
00:13:07.000Politically motivated does not always mean false.
00:13:09.000Okay, so here are the five perspectives, I think, on Moore and what to do about him.
00:13:13.000So, perspective number one is turnabout is fair play.
00:13:16.000There are a lot of people I'm seeing on the right who are looking around and they're saying, listen,
00:13:21.000The left is not willing to throw anyone out, no matter what the standard.
00:13:24.000We can't play, we can't disarm ourselves.
00:13:26.000This is the prisoner's dilemma I was talking about last week.
00:13:30.000I don't think it's necessarily a moral perspective, but it's a politically advantageous one, I guess.
00:13:33.000This is the idea that the left is not going to throw out people like Bob Menendez.
00:13:36.000So why would we throw out Roy Moore without an actual conviction?
00:13:39.000And even if he were actually convicted, the Democrats are not going to throw out Bob Menendez, right?
00:13:42.000Dick Durbin, the senator from Illinois, was asked about Bob Menendez, who is currently on trial for corruption, the senator from New Jersey.
00:13:47.000And he's asked, if he's convicted, will you move to kick him out of the Senate?
00:13:51.000And Durbin won't even answer the question.
00:13:52.000If your colleague, Senator Bob Menendez, New Jersey Democrat, is convicted on the corruption charges, he's on trial right now, the jury is still deliberating, will you vote to expel him?
00:14:03.000I'm not going to get into the hypotheticals on either of these situations.
00:14:09.000I'm hopeful that when all is said and done that Bob Menendez will be returning to the Senate representing the state of New Jersey.
00:14:15.000Okay, so this idea that the Democrats are somehow moral players here is obviously not true, and a lot of Republicans are responding to this by basically saying, well, fine, if you're not gonna get rid of Menendez, why would you get rid of Moore, right?
00:14:26.000Amy Klobuchar, who's the Democrat senator from Minnesota, she says that maybe if Moore is elected, maybe we'll expel him.
00:14:33.000But I don't remember her saying anything like this about Menendez, who's actually on trial right now.
00:14:37.000But you're in favor of starting the expulsion process, potentially, if he is elected?
00:14:42.000That's one way we can do it, but the other way is for the people of Alabama to look at these two candidates.
00:14:47.000And yes, I have faith that they're going to look at what happened and these allegations and the fact that there's 30 witnesses and make a decision on someone else.
00:14:55.000Then again, on the hypocrisy front, Lawrence O'Donnell, who has not said one word as far as I'm aware about expelling Bob Menendez, he asks Mitch McConnell, he says, what are you going to do about Moore?
00:15:04.000And a lot of people on the right are like, well screw you, you won't do anything about your own people, why should we do anything about our people?
00:15:09.000Again, I'm not saying this is a moral perspective, and I'm going to explain my own perspective further, but I think that it's worthwhile elucidating the various perspectives.
00:15:15.000Before I go any further here, I first want to say thank you to our sponsors over at MyPatriotSupply.
00:15:20.000So, you've seen a lot of natural disasters on the news lately.
00:15:22.000You've seen natural disasters in California, and Texas, and Florida, and Puerto Rico.
00:15:26.000You've seen natural disasters, a big earthquake yesterday in the Middle East.
00:15:29.000When this stuff happens, it should be a reminder that natural disasters can happen, and there may be a time when you can't actually get to the grocery store, but you're out of supplies.
00:15:37.000The government can't get to you for a couple of days.
00:17:14.000But when people keep insisting that the Washington Post has no agenda with regard to the election, two things can be true at once.
00:17:19.000They can have an agenda and the allegations can be true.
00:17:21.000But people seem to be able to take only one perspective.
00:17:24.000If they have an agenda, that means the allegations are false, or the allegations are true and they have no agenda.
00:17:28.000Here's Jeffrey Goldberg saying that Washington Post has no agenda, which obviously is not true.
00:17:32.000So on the one hand, we do have an intolerance for this across different fields and industries.
00:17:37.000On the other hand, you can still succeed in America pretty easily with some really nasty stuff in your background.
00:17:44.000Well, especially if you believe that the other side is making this stuff up or doing it only for partisan reasons.
00:17:49.000I mean, this is why so many people are sticking with the party because they believe that the other side is lying about what really... They're trying to cast the Washington Post as oppo research and the Washington Post is actually neutral.
00:18:00.000Okay, this idea when you have all these media people who hate Trump, hate Moore, sitting around going, we're neutral arbiters.
00:18:05.000No wonder so many people are reacting this way.
00:18:07.000There's a poll out today showing that 37% of evangelicals said that they are more likely to vote for Roy Moore in the aftermath of the allegations.
00:18:14.000That's not because they actually believe he raped a 14-year-old or tried to, right?
00:18:18.000That's because they believe that the media is out to get him.
00:18:22.000That's obviously what's going on here.
00:18:23.000So this perspective, I think, has become the default perspective for a lot of Republicans and a lot of Democrats.
00:18:28.000Because next time there's a Bill Clinton character who goes around sexually assaulting women, Democrats are going to say, well, you guys were fine with Trump and Moore.
00:19:45.000And David Horowitz would have supported him because he doesn't want Hillary Clinton to be president.
00:19:59.000So this does raise a question that we're all going to have to deal with.
00:20:02.000What are you willing to accept in a candidate to defeat the other side?
00:20:05.000If you believe the other side is so deeply evil that every seat is worth electing a child molester, then we may as well kiss goodbye to any standards for our candidates at all.
00:20:14.000Because some of our candidates will probably be good people, but some of them may be absolute crap-fests.
00:20:19.000And to be honest, this seems like, again, a very common perspective that no one actually wants to articulate, right?
00:20:25.000This seems almost like the underlying perspective for a lot of people who say the turnabout is fair play.
00:20:29.000There are a certain number of them, a subset, who say, who cares?
00:21:03.000She wrote a book called Once Upon a Secret, My Affair with President John F. Kennedy and Its Aftermath.
00:21:07.000She was at the White House intern, a 19-year-old rising sophomore at Wheaton College, and JFK used her as basically a drug mule and apparently as a whore.
00:21:17.000I mean, that's basically her allegation.
00:21:33.000And apparently he was also dallying with Fiddle's close friend Faddle, a secretary in the press office.
00:21:38.000Apparently he led Mimi into his wife's bedroom, unbuttoned her blouse, touched her breasts, pulled down her underwear, dropped his pants, climbed on top of her, and had sex with her.
00:21:46.000When she told him she was a virgin, he became more compassionate, but neither in that sexual encounter nor any other did he kiss her on the lips.
00:21:53.000There was one incident where there was a guy named Dave Powers who worked for Kennedy, who was sitting poolside while the president and I swam lazy circles around each other, splashing playfully.
00:22:02.000Remember, she's 19, JFK at this point is in his 40s.
00:22:04.000The allegation's about more that he was 33 and the girl was 16 or 17 or 18, except for the 14-year-old, which is another allegation.
00:22:11.000Dave had removed his jacket and loosened his tie in the warm air of the pool, but he was otherwise fully clothed.
00:22:15.000He was sitting on a towel with his pants leg rolled up and his bare feet dangling in the water.
00:22:19.000The president swam over and whispered in my ear, Mr. Powers looks a little tense.
00:22:55.000statutorily raped a 16-year-old boy, okay?
00:22:57.000The guy's name was John Galen McKinley, and he was 16 years old, and Milk, who was then 33, right, very similar to the allegations, began living with this kid, this 16-year-old kid.
00:23:08.000They moved into Harvey Milk's Upper West Side apartment, according to a biography by Randy Schiltz.
00:23:12.000It says, they bought a dog named Trick, a cat they called Trade, and settled into a middle-class domestic marriage.
00:23:17.000At 33, Milk was launching a new life, though he could hardly have imagined the unlikely direction toward which his new lover would pull him.
00:23:23.000Okay, his lover at this age was 16 years old.
00:23:25.000Does the left have anything to say about that?
00:23:27.000Again, the answer is no, because who cares?
00:23:29.000Harvey Milk was a hero, and so we have to bury all of this stuff.
00:23:33.000We can't imagine that people are multifaceted, and so we have to bury all this stuff.
00:23:36.000So perspective number one is the other side does it, so who cares?
00:23:39.000I think that's wrong, and I'll explain why in a minute I think that's wrong.
00:23:43.000I've really explained it already a little bit, which is just because the other side does it doesn't mean it's moral for you to do it.
00:23:48.000If the other side is electing a bunch of murderers, that doesn't mean it's moral for you to elect a bunch of murderers to fight them.
00:23:52.000Number two is the other side is so evil that we have to do everything possible to stop them, including siding with terrible people.
00:23:59.000That shows very little faith in humanity.
00:24:01.000It also shows very little faith in God, really.
00:24:04.000That God always has to use the most imperfect vessel.
00:24:07.000And it really shows little faith in human beings because the fact is that Roy Moore, if he dropped out today, there'd be a writing campaign for Luther Strange or for Mo Brooks, and that person would likely win the seat.
00:24:16.000Right now the polls show that Moore is down about four points to the Democratic challenger in freaking Alabama.
00:24:44.000Hillary Clinton was not convicted in a court of law of anything, and yet we treated her as a criminal because she was committing criminal activities no matter what James Comey said, and we didn't vote her into the office of the White House because of that.
00:24:55.000Right, so the bottom line is that, you know, in your own mind, you don't get to beg off just because the person wasn't convicted unless this is a consistent rule you uphold.
00:25:02.000If your consistent rule is, I will vote for anyone so long as they weren't convicted, then you'd vote for OJ Simpson for higher office so long as he voted the right way on abortion.
00:25:10.000But acknowledge that this is what you're doing.
00:25:12.000The reality is that's not how people vote.
00:25:15.000So all I'm asking from people is that they uphold a consistent standard.
00:25:17.000If your standard is you don't care because the other side does it, or if your standard is you don't care because the other side is so evil, or if your standard is the person has to be legally convicted in order for me to care, then at least uphold that standard on all sides, but you don't get to pick and choose which people you're going to use the new standard for.
00:25:31.000Senator Tim Scott, I think, has this exactly right.
00:25:33.000He says, listen, in the end, it is not the judge that's gonna be the judge.
00:25:37.000It's gonna be the voters who are the judge, just as they were with Hillary Clinton.
00:25:40.000In this case though, if the allegations are true, he's denying them.
00:25:45.000There's no doubt that the case is compelling.
00:25:48.000The judge and the jury in this case will be the people of Alabama, the voters of Alabama.
00:25:53.000They will have an opportunity to weigh in very clearly and decisively and very shortly.
00:25:58.000But this current situation will have to be solved by the people of Alabama.
00:26:02.000The voters will be the judge and the jury.
00:26:04.000Okay, so that being the case, this brings up the final two perspectives, and these are the ones that I think are really the most interesting and honest.
00:26:10.000These are the ones that I think matter the most.
00:26:12.000Okay, the first perspec- you know, I'll give you those in one second.
00:26:14.000These are the perspectives that matter the most.
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00:27:36.000Then, there's the perspective of the people who believe that this sort of thing makes a difference.
00:27:40.000Right, who believe that if he actually did it, then he should not be running for Senate, and we should not elect him to the Senate.
00:27:46.000And this brings up where I think most people actually are, right?
00:27:49.000I think most people actually are here... Okay, let me rephrase.
00:27:52.000Most people may be in the first category, but they like to think they're in this category.
00:27:55.000Right, most people may be in the category where they don't really care whether Moore did it, they just want to know whether he's going to be a senator they like.
00:28:01.000But where most people want to believe in their heart they are is that it would make a difference if a guy molested a 14-year-old in their vote.
00:28:08.000Okay, so this breaks down into two categories.
00:28:12.000The allegations against Moore are credible.
00:28:13.000The allegations against Moore are not.
00:28:14.000So what we've been hearing consistently from Republicans is if this is true, he should step down.
00:28:18.000The problem is there's no way really to prove it's true because it's a he-said-she-said situation.
00:28:23.000Which means that you have to use your brain and determine whether you think the allegations are credible.
00:28:27.000And I'm not going to decide that for you.
00:28:29.000I happen to think the allegations are credible.
00:28:31.000I think they're credible because there are multiple witnesses who are contemporaneous who back up the account because they weren't there to see the thing but she apparently told them about it at the time.
00:28:39.000It's credible because apparently, according to a former DA who worked with Moore, it was common knowledge she used to hang out at the high school and pick up chicks.
00:28:46.000All of this seems credible to me, but you can certainly make the case it's not particularly credible.
00:28:51.000So, Pat Toomey, the senator from Pennsylvania, he's saying that.
00:28:54.000He's saying, you know, I'm not sure I find these allegations particularly credible.
00:28:57.000Again, you can hold this perspective for sure, and what you may think is that this is a political hit job, it's an opal research piece that's not well substantiated, designed to take out Moore,
00:29:06.000And so the motivation combines with the lack of credibility of the story to mean that it's all BS.
00:29:10.000Okay, so here's Pat Toomey sort of making that case.
00:29:13.000Look, I've said I don't find the denial terribly credible, but when someone waits 40 years before they make an accusation, you know, that raises a question itself.
00:29:22.000So it's probably not knowable, but there seems to be enough there that it's very disturbing.
00:29:30.000Okay, so, you know, again, it's not credible, it's not knowable.
00:29:41.000If you know women who have been sexually assaulted, many of them never reported it, but they'll tell you about it.
00:29:47.000The reason they didn't report it is because they were 14 or 15 and they felt adrift.
00:29:52.000They felt like they may have been guilty.
00:29:53.000They felt like the cops weren't going to listen to them.
00:29:55.000They felt like people were going to attach that stigma to them the rest of their lives and they'd rather hide it and try and deal with it themselves.
00:30:05.000There are people trying to call into question the credibility of the count.
00:30:08.000I think bottom line is you're either going to have to believe the woman who says that she was assaulted when she was 14 or you're not going to because Breitbart has been trying to take this apart and they're doing a terrible job of it.
00:30:16.000So Breitbart obviously is very invested in this particular race because Steve Bannon wanted to claim credit for his primary win, Moore's primary win, even though he really had nothing to do with it.
00:30:25.000But he's tied himself to Moore's leg, and so now he's assigned two reporters.
00:30:29.000One of them, actually, is the Jerusalem bureau chief, Aaron Klein, who's done a good amount of good reporting in the Middle East, but hasn't done much here.
00:30:35.000There's a piece here saying, I like Aaron, but this is not a particularly revelatory report.
00:30:40.000This was the lead at Breitbart yesterday.
00:31:47.000Okay, if you ever look at the old phones that have cords on them, all of the cords are stretched out of recognition.
00:31:52.000Right, they have the curly cords, you know, they're all curled like a pig's tail.
00:31:56.000You know, if you pull, if you go look, go look at, and you'll go to your grandma's house and look at the phone that has on the wall that cord.
00:32:02.000That cord is stretched out of recognition.
00:32:29.000If you were a publicity whore and you were looking to get into the papers by giving a false allegation, wouldn't you be seeking out the Washington Post?
00:33:40.000It appears that there is a significant issue here that needs to be addressed.
00:33:45.000Okay, so that's basically his way of saying, yes, they're credible.
00:33:48.000So, the reason that I'm spending so much time on this is because I think that we all need to, as moral human beings, as people who are trying to do the right thing, I think we need to examine in our own minds what our standards are, so that we know for the future.
00:33:58.000Like, let's be honest about our own standards here.
00:34:00.000It's the dishonesty that bothers me, not actually your standard.
00:34:02.000Your standard may bother me, but the dishonesty bothers me more.
00:34:06.000My standard is people who sexually abuse children at 14, or about whom there are credible allegations, should not be sitting in the Senate.
00:34:15.000And then I determine that I think these allegations are credible or not.
00:34:18.000I tend to think that they're credible, at least according to what I've seen so far.
00:34:21.000Then there are people who say they're not credible.
00:34:23.000Okay, again, if that's what you come up with, if you think that these are not credible allegations, explain why, and maybe we can have a conversation about that.
00:34:29.000Then there are the other perspectives.
00:34:32.000Because the other side is so terrible.
00:34:33.000If you think that, we shouldn't live in a country with other people who are called Democrats.
00:34:36.000We should actually go to war with them.
00:34:37.000If you believe that people are so evil, that in order to fight them, you need to elect child molesters to the Senate, then I would suggest that we ought to be in a state of open war, rather than pretending that we live in the same country.
00:34:48.000Then there's the perspective that the other side does it, so it's okay for me.
00:34:51.000This is a way that you have a race to the bottom on politics.
00:34:55.000I object to the prisoner's dilemma logic, because prisoner's dilemma does not carry a moral burden.
00:35:00.000That's just a question of game theory.
00:35:02.000But when it carries a moral burden, there is a moral burden to you when you say, I care more about losing the Senate seat in Alabama than electing an alleged child molester to that seat.
00:35:21.000Time for... I want to talk about the greatest tweet that Trump has ever sent.
00:35:24.000So here is the greatest tweet that Trump has ever sent.
00:35:28.000It's one of the reasons that Trump supporters love him.
00:35:30.000His approval rating is back up to 46%.
00:35:31.000This demonstrates every time Trump goes abroad and he can't stay at home, fulminating about domestic issues and bothering everyone, everyone likes him.
00:36:23.000You know, in the history books we'll read, World War III began when a Twitter storm ran out of control and Kim Jong-un fired a nuclear-tipped missile at California based on Donald J. Trump calling him short and fat.
00:36:34.000I don't think that's what's going to happen, so who cares?
00:36:44.000Then I want to talk about some of the other things he said, plus this horrible column from the New York Times.
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00:38:02.000Okay, so Trump Abroad sends that tweet, which again, I think it's just, it is a spectacular tweet.
00:38:07.000I mean, that is a 10 out of 10 for Trump.
00:38:09.000And then he sent some other things that were not so great.
00:38:12.000He continues to make weird noises about Russia, about how he wants to be best friends with Putin.
00:38:16.000Here's what he said about getting along with Russia.
00:38:18.000Now, at the same time, I want to be able, because I think it's very important, to get along with Russia, to get along with China, to get along with Vietnam, to get along with lots of countries, because we have a lot of things we have to solve.
00:38:34.000And frankly, Russia and China in particular can help us with the North Korea problem, which is one of our truly great problems.
00:38:41.000So, I'm not looking to stand and start arguing with somebody when there's reporters all around and cameras recording and seeing our conversation.
00:38:51.000I think it was very obvious to everybody.
00:38:53.000I believe that President Putin really feels, and he feels strongly, that he did not meddle in our election.
00:39:00.000Okay, so who cares if you feel strongly they didn't meddle in the election?
00:39:04.000A lot of people were upset with Trump for saying this.
00:39:07.000Again, this is typical Trump, but the reason people on the right aren't so upset is because on the other side of the national security aisle are a bunch of people on the left who pretended that Russia was no threat at all back in 2012, when Mitt Romney was calling him the lead geopolitical threat on planet Earth, and Barack Obama was saying that the 1980s called and wanted their foreign policy back.
00:39:23.000John Brennan and James Clapper, both of them political hacks, they were out there ripping Trump saying, well, it's a badge of honor to be called political hacks by Trump.
00:39:51.000Well, first of all, he was referring to us as political hacks because he was trying to delegitimize the intelligence community assessment that was done.
00:39:57.000Jim Clapper, Jim Comey, and John Brennan did not write that assessment.
00:40:00.000It was written by the professional intelligence officers and law enforcement officers of this great country.
00:40:06.000Secondly, I feel very honored to be associated with Jim Clapper and Jim Comey in the same category.
00:40:12.000And considering the source of the criticism, I consider that criticism- Okay, the problem is they destroyed their own credibility, and then Trump goes after their credibility.
00:40:21.000If you destroy your own credibility, and then Trump goes after your credibility, even on behalf of silly causes, then that is really the fault of these people.
00:40:29.000Trump is saying a lot of things I disagree with on the foreign policy front, but the bottom line is, so long as he's attacking people like Clapper and people like Brennan, he's gonna get away with it because they destroyed their credibility long before Trump ever touched them with a 10-foot pole.
00:40:40.000Okay, time for some things I like, things I hate, and then we'll go through a Federalist paper.
00:42:33.000It's not going to be something that you sit around contemplating at the end of days, but it is something where if you just need a break and you need to laugh, then it'll... By the way, this is my favorite kind of Marvel movie.
00:42:42.000Let's go straight to some things that I hate.
00:42:57.000It is amazing how, depending on where you are politically, you can get away with certain things.
00:43:00.000So, George Takei went after President Trump, as you remember, for the P-word tape, saying that if you're famous, you can grab women by the bleep and get away with it.
00:43:09.000Here's George Takei on Howard Stern's show, being asked about sexually assaulting men.
00:45:17.000It is impossible to convey the mixture of heartbreak and fear I feel for him.
00:45:21.000This thing continues for like 900 words?
00:45:38.000about why you can't, if you're a black person, you can't have meaningful friendships with white people.
00:45:42.000He says he wants to teach his child to distrust white people.
00:45:45.000He says Martin Luther King's famous dream of black and white children holding hands was a dream precisely because he realized that in Alabama, conditions of dominance made real friendship between white and black people impossible.
00:46:28.000Again, I don't know if they're in a competition to run the worst editorial of all time every day, but each day they seem to be topping themselves over at the New York Times editorial page.
00:46:50.000So in this Federalist paper, Jay is trying to make the case that we should have one united country instead of a bunch of little countries, right?
00:46:58.000Why we should be one country instead of a bunch of states that have their own foreign policy and borders.
00:47:02.000He says that we need one united country to prevent foreign invasions.
00:47:05.000He said local governments won't be able to follow sectional foreign policies because we'll have a national government instead.
00:47:12.000He says it is of high importance to the peace of America that you observe the law of nations toward all these powers.
00:47:17.000And to me, it appears evident that this will be more perfectly and punctually done by one national government than it could either be done by 13 separate states or by three or four distinct confederacies.
00:47:25.000The idea being, if you want to bring war to the continent, all you have to do is have three or four different places on the continent each declaring war in their own good time, which of course is true.
00:47:33.000And then he makes the point, he says, And this is true historically.
00:47:45.000If you look at a lot of the conflicts with Native Americans, they were not driven by the federal government.
00:47:48.000They were driven by various state governments seeking to enlarge their territory and mistreat Native Americans.
00:47:53.000In many cases, the federal government was called in to militate against those states.
00:47:56.000So this was the case that John Jay was making.
00:47:58.000You need a national government because a series of smaller governments would generate more conflict and more.
00:48:03.000That's certainly been true throughout American history.
00:48:06.000Okay, so we will be back here tomorrow with all of the latest updates.