The Ben Shapiro Show - The Immigration Conflagration | Ep. 755

00:00:00.000 The media and the Democrats rip President Trump on illegal immigration, an NBA player talks about his white privilege, and Bernie Sanders acts like a frontrunner.

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00:00:10.000 Man, it is such a disparate news cycle.

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00:01:53.000 Okay, so the big story today is that President Trump continues to be stymied on his immigration plans.

00:01:59.000 A federal court has now blocked the Trump administration from forcing asylum seekers to remain in Mexico while awaiting court hearings.

00:02:06.000 Now, this is not really within the purview of the federal courts.

00:02:09.000 The president does have enormous power over border policy.

00:02:12.000 This is stuff within the executive branch's purview.

00:02:14.000 This is really not stuff within the judicial branch's purview.

00:02:17.000 When it comes to the border, that is a foreign policy matter, and that means that the president does have exorbitant and near-plenary power over what to do with America's border situation.

00:02:27.000 And the court doesn't just get to grant rights to people who are coming across the border without the president enforcing those rights.

00:02:35.000 Nonetheless, a federal judge, again, we have a bunch of rogue courts across the country who are slapping national injunctions on the federal government, which really is an act of judicial supremacy, not judicial review.

00:02:44.000 There's a difference.

00:02:45.000 Judicial review is the idea that the courts get to look at the interpretation of the Constitution, and then they get to determine whether a law is constitutional or not.

00:02:54.000 But judicial supremacy is the idea that the court is the last, best hope of the Constitution of the United States, and that the president doesn't basically get to fight with the courts and fight with the legislature.

00:03:04.000 that the court is the repository of all wisdom when it comes to the Constitution.

00:03:07.000 And that is something that was largely opposed by Alexander Hamilton in Federalist 78.

00:03:12.000 He said that if the courts were disposed to exercise will instead of judgment, it would defeat the purpose for them existing.

00:03:17.000 Their purpose is simply to interpret the law It is not to go above and beyond that.

00:03:22.000 And if they do go above and beyond that, their opinion is of no more matter than the president's opinion or legislator's opinion.

00:03:28.000 This is why the president and legislators both take an oath of office to uphold the Constitution.

00:03:34.000 If it were really just kick everything over to the Supreme Court, you wouldn't need them to swear those oaths.

00:03:39.000 Nonetheless, judges across the country have decided that they are actually legislators.

00:03:43.000 And now a federal judge on Monday has blocked an experimental Trump administration policy requiring asylum seekers to wait in Mexico while their cases make their way through the U.S. immigration court system.

00:03:54.000 A major blow to President Trump's efforts to stem the surge of crossings at the southern border.

00:03:58.000 This is according to The Washington Post.

00:04:00.000 U.S. District Judge Richard Seaborg in San Francisco enjoined the migrant protection protocols policy days after outgoing Homeland Security Secretary Christian Nielsen pledged to expand the program.

00:04:10.000 The policy began in January at the San Ysidro Port of Entry in California.

00:04:14.000 It has been extended to Calexico and to the entry in El Paso.

00:04:17.000 Seaborg wrote that the approach would have been further extended if the court had not stepped in.

00:04:21.000 Several hundred migrants were returned to Mexico under the program.

00:04:23.000 After seeking asylum at the border.

00:04:24.000 Why?

00:04:25.000 Because once people enter the country, then very often they don't show up for their court dates or they show up for their original court dates, which merely is just a way for them to kind of check that box.

00:04:35.000 And then they figure that if they show up for the original court date and they wait six months, they get an automatic work visa and they can stay in the country pretty much as long as they want.

00:04:43.000 The percentage of people who are actually deported after showing up for court the first time is exorbitantly low.

00:04:49.000 We had a Mark Krikorian from the Center for Immigration Studies yesterday on the radio show.

00:04:53.000 He explained all of this in detail.

00:04:55.000 There's a reason that people are trying to get into the country and not be held pending the judgment of their asylum on the other side of the border, because if they get here...

00:05:03.000 There's a good shot that they are going to be caught and then released into the general population.

00:05:07.000 Many of them will show up for their first court hearing.

00:05:09.000 That first court hearing is just to determine whether or not they are criminals or whether they are sane.

00:05:15.000 And then they are released back into society.

00:05:17.000 At that point, all they have to do is wait out that ticking clock.

00:05:20.000 If they wait for six months, they get an automatic work visa.

00:05:22.000 And then they're off and running.

00:05:23.000 They just overstayed the work visa and they stick around in the United States.

00:05:26.000 This, by the way, is the vast majority of illegal immigrants, both across the Mexican border as well as into America from other countries, not across the Mexican border.

00:05:34.000 The overstaying of work visas is the number one way that illegal immigrants stay in the United States.

00:05:40.000 The ruling is a preliminary injunction, at least temporarily stopping the program, and it paralyzes one of the Trump administration's last remaining tools to stem the flow of Central American families trying to cross the U.S.-Mexico border.

00:05:51.000 Trump took out some of that frustration on the Department of Homeland Security firing nearly everyone.

00:05:55.000 In his 27-page ruling, Seaborg said that the legal question before him was not whether the MPP is a wise, intelligent, or humane policy, or whether it is the best approach for addressing the circumstances the executive branch contends constitutes a crisis.

00:06:08.000 Rather, he wrote, the program probably violates the Immigration and Nationality Act, the Administrative Procedures Act, and other legal protections to ensure that immigrants are not returned to unduly dangerous circumstances.

00:06:18.000 But there is no actual evidence that returning immigrants who are crossing over from Mexico to Mexico to wait is putting them in an unduly dangerous circumstance.

00:06:27.000 Mexico is not Honduras or Guatemala or El Salvador.

00:06:32.000 Justice Department officials declined to comment on the ruling on Monday.

00:06:35.000 The U.S.

00:06:35.000 government could appeal the ruling to the Ninth Circuit.

00:06:37.000 They have not indicated whether they will do so or not.

00:06:40.000 This is a serious problem for the Trump administration, is the courts routinely stepping in and overstepping their authority.

00:06:46.000 Now, the Obama administration used to ignore court orders on a fairly regular basis with regard to, for example, the Dreamers. 1.00

00:06:52.000 So a federal court in Texas struck down President Obama's Dreamers program.

00:06:57.000 Obama just ignored it and continued handing out the papers to people who are Dreamers. 0.97

00:07:02.000 Trump could theoretically do the same thing here, and he probably should, because the fact is there are a series of conflicting lower court rulings.

00:07:08.000 None of them fit with each other.

00:07:09.000 They're all over the place.

00:07:11.000 And this has basically left the Trump administration with no options.

00:07:15.000 Advocates for immigrants say the migrants are fleeing poverty and violence in Central America and should be allowed to wait in the United States until their cases are decided.

00:07:23.000 In the ruling, this judge, Seaborg, wrote that DHS will still have the authority to detain migrants when they return to the United States.

00:07:29.000 He made clear his ruling does not preclude Congress from creating an MPP-style program under federal law.

00:07:35.000 Trump and top administration officials have implored Congress to stop the flow of tens of thousands of migrants every month.

00:07:40.000 Seaborg said, to be clear, the issue in this case is not whether it would be permissible for Congress to authorize DHS to return aliens to Mexico pending final determination as to their admissibility.

00:07:49.000 So he is kicking it over to Congress, saying that Congress has to pass a law specifically on this, and there can't be a regulation that does all of this.

00:07:56.000 But that seems, I think, like an overly narrow misreading of the Administrative Procedures Act, for one.

00:08:03.000 The President does have tremendous, tremendous executive power in generating regulations on all of these matters.

00:08:09.000 One of the reasons that Christian Nielsen, the Secretary of Homeland Security, was ousted from her job was presumably because she did not promulgate regulations quickly enough for President Trump.

00:08:20.000 Meanwhile, it is important to note the level of conflict inside the federal courts over all of this.

00:08:28.000 It is important to really, I think that when people do not note that the federal courts are all over the place on these issues and legitimately have not given any sort of comprehensive opinion on what exactly the executive branch can and cannot do, that leaves the executive branch without any way of actually doing anything at all.

00:08:49.000 David Horowitz, Daniel Horowitz, rather, over at Conservative Review, has an excellent piece on this today, talking about exactly how all of these courts are overstepping their boundaries.

00:09:00.000 Here's what he says, rather than categorically suspending immigration requests at the border, the DHS issued a regulation in December to continue claims but to have some of the illegal aliens wait in Mexico pending the outcome of the proceedings.

00:09:11.000 Statute is clear that the same way the president can suspend all entry, he can place partial restrictions or conditions on such entry.

00:09:18.000 This has been made clear from, for example, President Trump's travel ban, in which the president simply suspended immigration from particular countries.

00:09:26.000 The judicial power vested in a judge allows him to grant injunctive relief to an American seeking protection from a regulatory burden or criminal prosecution.

00:09:34.000 A judge can say he will not agree to punish a winning plaintiff, even if an executive policy or legislative statute required it.

00:09:39.000 That is judicial review.

00:09:40.000 A judge, however, has no such power to issue an injunction to enable foreign nationals to come into our country without the permission of the President of the United States.

00:09:50.000 The fact is that long-standing judicial history suggests that the judiciary does not have the power to make immigration policy this way.

00:09:59.000 Daniel Horowitz points out that there are a bunch of California judges who have ruled on immigration.

00:10:04.000 All of these rulings are in conflict with one another.

00:10:06.000 Dolly G. of the Central District of California, among many other radical opinions overturned by the Supreme Court, said that the administration must release all children after 20 days, even though the Flores settlement is outdated and the statute downright requires the opposite.

00:10:20.000 It is unclear whether the president is allowed to keep children together with parents or whether the president has to separate the children from the parents.

00:10:25.000 What Democrats want is for the Flores Settlement to be held in place.

00:10:28.000 The Flores Settlement was a settlement between the federal government and plaintiffs led by the ACLU in which federal courts basically green-lighted a settlement during the Clinton administration that said that children have to be held in the most Free possible circumstances for a limited period.

00:10:45.000 After that, you have to separate them from their parents and release them into the general population. 0.88

00:10:49.000 This was done with an eye toward releasing the parents into the general population as well.

00:10:53.000 Dana Sabra of the Southern District of California has said that parents must be released with children too.

00:10:59.000 Which is not... I mean, that's fully insane.

00:11:01.000 So she's saying that under American law, you must release parents with children.

00:11:04.000 So if you cross the border with kids, then you will, under this particular ruling, be released into the general population.

00:11:11.000 We can't hold you with the kids, and we can't separate you from the kids.

00:11:13.000 The only way we can unify you with the kids is to release you into the general population. 0.54

00:11:17.000 That's not an immigration policy.

00:11:19.000 That's a judge simply deciding what they want to be the law.

00:11:23.000 Judge William Alsop of the Northern District of California has ruled that Obama's amnesty must remain in place for now, which is crazy considering that Obama's amnesty was never greenlit by Congress.

00:11:33.000 Judge John Tiger of the Northern District of California, just like Judge Seaborg, ruled that the administration cannot make a simple common-sense regulation of driving credible fear claims to points of entry, even though the Immigration and Naturalization Act states openly that it's unlawful for any alien to depart from or enter or attempt to depart from or enter the United States except under reasonable rules, regulations, and orders and subject to limitations and exceptions as the President may prescribe.

00:12:00.000 Judge Edward Chen of the Northern District of California has ruled that temporary protected status, rather than being temporary and discretionary, is permanent and mandatory for Trump.

00:12:08.000 He said that Trump could not reject the so-called DREAM Act because the fact is that President Trump has quote-unquote animus against non-white people.

00:12:18.000 None of this has anything to do with the Constitution.

00:12:20.000 None of this has anything to do with the law.

00:12:23.000 And these judges are really overstepping their boundaries and providing Trump with not a lot of options.

00:12:27.000 So you're seeing Democrats come out and rip President Trump supposedly for being intolerant on the immigration issue or being terrible on the immigration issue.

00:12:34.000 Dude has no options if you listen to these courts.

00:12:37.000 He can't keep the kids with the parents together because that violates the rights of the kids.

00:12:41.000 He can't separate the parents from the kids because that violates the rights of the kids.

00:12:45.000 And he can't even take the parents and kids and say, stay on the Mexican side of the border.

00:12:49.000 So what's he supposed to do?

00:12:50.000 That only leaves one option, release everybody.

00:12:53.000 Which, by the way, is a violation of American law.

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00:14:15.000 And meanwhile, President Trump being bashed about, clubbed about the head by the media and folks in the Democratic Party for his temerity in suggesting that perhaps...

00:14:24.000 He'll leave it up to illegal immigrant parents what they want to do with their children. 0.90

00:14:28.000 The president is supposedly considering something that is being called binary choice, is according to the Washington Post.

00:14:34.000 DHS officials are now looking for a way to satisfy the president's demand for tough measures, including a plan called binary choice that would give migrant parents the option of remaining detained as a family or agreeing to separation so their children would not remain in immigration custody.

00:14:48.000 So in other words, Trump is saying, you know, you want there to be only one option, which is I release you and your kids.

00:14:53.000 Instead, I'm going to offer you the option.

00:14:54.000 Either you get to sign off on staying with your kids in custody or you sign off on your kids being separated from you. 0.74

00:15:00.000 But there's no more of this crap where we just release you into the general population.

00:15:03.000 The goal of the plan, according to the Washington Post, would be to end the catch and release model that has allowed most migrant families to go free within the United States while they wait to appear before an immigration judge.

00:15:13.000 Implementing binary choice without lawmakers approval risks another court injunction.

00:15:18.000 Stuart Baker, a top DHS advisor to George W. Bush, says the president doesn't like the news he's getting on immigration.

00:15:23.000 He's blamed leadership at DHS.

00:15:24.000 This is not something leadership at the department can fix.

00:15:26.000 This needs to be fixed in Congress.

00:15:28.000 There doesn't seem to be any appetite for that.

00:15:31.000 Well, perhaps that's true and perhaps that is not.

00:15:33.000 But the fact is that the president of the United States does have an enormous amount of power, again, over immigration regulations.

00:15:39.000 And the courts keep striking down every immigration regulation when they spent years basically OK Barack Obama not doing anything about illegal immigration and actively seeking to incentivize illegal immigration.

00:15:51.000 It's pretty incredible.

00:15:53.000 Trump has suggested to aides in recent weeks that the administration's previous policy of separating families at the border could be used to deter crossings and that a version of the policy could be reinstated.

00:16:02.000 According to two people with knowledge of the discussions, some aides have resisted the idea of family separations, citing the public backlash last summer and noting that Trump himself reversed it, which is true.

00:16:11.000 President Trump was so intimidated by the public backlash that he signed an executive order saying that parents and kids would have to be kept together, which generally resulted in the release of the parents and the kids into the general population of the United States.

00:16:25.000 But with that said, you know, it is amazing.

00:16:27.000 So it seems perfectly reasonable to me.

00:16:29.000 Like, legitimately reasonable.

00:16:31.000 To say to illegal immigrant parents, listen, you're not getting released into the general population.

00:16:36.000 Many of you will show up for your first time back to court and then you'll disappear again.

00:16:39.000 We're not going to do that.

00:16:40.000 You stay in custody until we've decided whether your asylum claim is true or fraudulent.

00:16:44.000 And it's your option.

00:16:45.000 Either your kids stay with your relatives while you wait for your court date, or they can stay with you.

00:16:50.000 I don't see why that is in any way inhumane or terrible.

00:16:54.000 The only thing inhumane and terrible is Democrats not providing the funding to allow some sort of comfortable stay for the illegal immigrants crossing the border with their kids.

00:17:01.000 That's the only thing that seems inhumane to me.

00:17:03.000 And the reason Democrats are not doing that is because they want to force the president to release all of these people into the interior of the United States.

00:17:09.000 They're literally busing people into places like San Antonio and dropping them off at food... at food banks.

00:17:16.000 I mean, it's craziness.

00:17:18.000 It's craziness. 0.99

00:17:19.000 Nonetheless, this has been taken as evidence that the President of the United States is a brutal, horrible, terrible man. 0.91

00:17:23.000 Now, again, Barack Obama kept kids in cages in 2014.

00:17:28.000 All of the original pictures that were brought up a couple of years ago were from the Obama administration, not from the Trump administration.

00:17:34.000 Nonetheless, it is now considered something deeply horrible to say to people crossing the border and claiming asylum, we need to adjudicate your claim, and now you have the option.

00:17:41.000 You can stay with your kids in custody, or you can make sure that your kids are taken care of with a family relation while you wait for your turn.

00:17:47.000 But we are not going to simply just say you get to go free into the interior of the United States.

00:17:52.000 How that is unreasonable is absolutely beyond me.

00:17:54.000 But according to the left, this is the equivalent of white supremacy.

00:17:58.000 So Jonathan Chait, who sometimes is an intelligent human but is not in this particular tweet, He tweeted out binary, as in like the binary choice that Trump is providing.

00:18:08.000 Binary is so grating.

00:18:09.000 What about something softer, like Sophie's?

00:18:12.000 Like Sophie's choice?

00:18:14.000 How in the world is it Sophie's choice to give people the option of staying with their kids or give them the option of putting their kids with the government or with a family member while they await their turn to be adjudicated for asylum?

00:18:26.000 How's that like Sophie's choice in any way?

00:18:28.000 Sophie's choice?

00:18:30.000 For those who have not read the book or seen the movie, it's about a mother in the Holocaust who is given the choice as to which of her two children she wants the Nazis to murder.

00:18:39.000 That is not this.

00:18:40.000 That is not this. 0.97

00:18:41.000 And to compare this to the Holocaust is obviously silly. 0.97

00:18:43.000 And to make the comparison in any way to the Holocaust is obviously silly. 0.94

00:18:46.000 Nobody is being killed.

00:18:48.000 Nobody is being told they have to choose evil things happening to their kids.

00:18:51.000 They're being told they can stay with their kids.

00:18:54.000 I mean, also, it is worth noting that Jews in Germany were citizens of Europe.

00:19:00.000 These are people who are crossing a border illegally to get into the United States.

00:19:03.000 I do not remember the Jews trying to get into the concentration camps, do you?

00:19:06.000 I remember the Jews clamoring to get on the trains.

00:19:09.000 These are people deliberately trying to get into the United States and violating American law in doing so.

00:19:14.000 I understand the motivation.

00:19:15.000 I'd probably want a better life, too.

00:19:17.000 If I were living in Honduras or El Salvador, and my only option were to try and cross through to the United States illegally, I'd probably do the same thing.

00:19:23.000 That doesn't mean I get to violate the laws of the country.

00:19:26.000 And I would expect that the government would want to process me.

00:19:29.000 And the government would want to make sure that I'm not released into the interior without them actually adjudicating whether I'm full of it when I claim political asylum.

00:19:37.000 But the overblown reaction to this is really quite astonishing.

00:19:40.000 Morgan Freedman is even worse.

00:19:42.000 So he is going after Stephen Miller.

00:19:44.000 So Stephen Miller is, of course, the president's very tough on immigration advisor.

00:19:48.000 And I disagree with Stephen Miller on a fair bit of his immigration policy, particularly his view on the economics of immigration.

00:19:54.000 He suggests that we should cut down legal immigration, too, because it's a threat to American jobs and all of this. 0.64

00:19:59.000 I generally disagree with that policy.

00:20:02.000 I disagree with Stephen Miller's approach to his kind of presentation in public and all of that.

00:20:08.000 But the new play by the left is to suggest that Stephen Miller is a white supremacist.

00:20:12.000 So Morgan Freeman He says, We are witnessing the deliberate reincarnation of Adolf Hitler right before our eyes, and Stephen Miller, who will stop at nothing to preserve some BS pure white bloodline. 0.96

00:20:23.000 We should be very scared and must stop Trump from empowering this evil and hatful man.

00:20:27.000 I don't know how many hats Stephen Miller has, but I know that I'm deeply worried about people who have too many hats. 0.91

00:20:34.000 I hate hatful people.

00:20:37.000 Really despise it. 0.95

00:20:38.000 Also, I'm wondering what the deliberate reincarnation of Adolf Hitler Looks like. 0.54

00:20:42.000 I mean, is this like the boys from Brazil?

00:20:45.000 The deliberate reincarnation of... Not an overstatement at all, Morgan Freeman.

00:20:50.000 My goodness.

00:20:50.000 And then Ilhan Omar sounds off, like rabid anti-Semite and Jew hater Ilhan Omar.

00:20:54.000 She says, Stephen Miller, who is Jewish, is a white nationalist.

00:20:58.000 The fact that he still has influence on policy and political appointments is an outrage, says the anti-Semite who sits on the Foreign Relations Committee.

00:21:05.000 And then Jason Johnson on MSNBC.

00:21:08.000 He says, well, Stephen Miller is alt-right.

00:21:10.000 He says Stephen Miller is in control of the policy, and it's not that we're trying to Kirby legal immigration.

00:21:14.000 It's that this is white supremacy.

00:21:16.000 The news is it's going to get worse.

00:21:19.000 Well, yeah, because it's gonna be Stephen Miller.

00:21:21.000 And his sort of white nationalist tendencies are really obvious.

00:21:25.000 He can't even dress that up as, I was just doing what I was told.

00:21:28.000 I mean, he goes back to relationships with Richard Spencer and the alt-right in several different areas.

00:21:32.000 But I think even more disturbing is this idea that Nielsen, it wasn't just, she was under no circumstances fighting against this administration.

00:21:39.000 She was just trying to find ways to smooth it down and cover it with sugar and make it okay. 1.00

00:21:43.000 And that's what makes it so disgusting.

00:21:45.000 Okay, so this is... 0.93

00:21:48.000 Such a wild overstatement that this is based on white supremacy as opposed to, hey, we can't just have tens of thousands of people flowing over the border without us doing anything about it.

00:21:56.000 But everything for the left becomes an issue of racism.

00:21:59.000 Now, as I've said, I don't like how Stephen Miller has publicly presented. 1.00

00:22:02.000 I think his original travel ban, as written, was stupid and counterproductive. 0.99

00:22:06.000 And then they fixed it. 1.00

00:22:06.000 And then it wasn't as stupid and counterproductive. 1.00

00:22:08.000 But all of this said, the media's rabid approach to illegal immigration is truly telling. 0.98

00:22:13.000 And I'll show you what the actual agenda is in just one second.

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00:23:15.000 So what is the real agenda here for a lot of folks on the left?

00:23:27.000 I do not think that it is the humane treatment of people crossing the border.

00:23:31.000 If it were, they would be calling for more funding, not less funding, for Border Patrol so we could make sure that people who are crossing the border and are taken into Border Patrol custody are then being kept in comfortable conditions along with their children while their cases are being adjudicated.

00:23:43.000 There'd be more funding.

00:23:45.000 For the judiciary, for these border courts, so that we could accelerate the process and make sure that everyone is heard more quickly.

00:23:50.000 Democrats have turned all of this stuff down.

00:23:53.000 Instead, what they want to do is create a false scarcity in the border patrol system so that they can then claim that Trump is being cruel.

00:24:00.000 That is the goal here, to claim that cruelty is the goal.

00:24:04.000 Well, again, the goal would be to enforce the law.

00:24:09.000 Now, Trump and his people haven't helped themselves because there are all sorts of reports that have been put out by the media that Trump says that he wants to magnify family separation as a deterrent for people who are crossing the border.

00:24:19.000 And that, of course, I have said over and over and over is wrong.

00:24:22.000 But if cruelty, if the Democrats and people in the media are claiming that Trump's cruelty is sort of a feature, not a bug of the system, So too is the Democratic program, which is deliberately robbing the CBP of the support that they need in order to make sure that the system is not cruel.

00:24:36.000 But here's Anderson Cooper calling Trump cruel, not the Democrats who are withdrawing all the funding.

00:24:40.000 The president, whether he likes it or not, has explicitly embraced the notion of family separation.

00:24:44.000 The cruelty, it's not a bug of the system.

00:24:48.000 It's a feature, which may have been a bridge too far for Secretary Nielsen.

00:24:51.000 But even if it was, it comes at the end of a very, very long road, which she has been traveling for a very, very long time.

00:24:57.000 Okay, so it's a feature, not a bug, and everybody who's involved is cruel and brutal and terrible and awful and cruel and brutal.

00:25:04.000 Except for the Democrats who refuse to fund this stuff.

00:25:07.000 Except for the Democrats who refuse to fund this stuff.

00:25:08.000 So their line is going to be that Trump is being unethical and terrible.

00:25:12.000 Juan Williams on Fox News tried to make the same point.

00:25:15.000 The truth is that Obama was dealing with unaccompanied minors.

00:25:19.000 Here you have families, so you have moms and children who were separated by Nielsen.

00:25:26.000 Yes, and why?

00:25:27.000 Again, I think that not only is it illegal, it's unethical and immoral, but I think that's why.

00:25:32.000 So you put them in the same compound with strangers?

00:25:36.000 It's just not true what you said, but I'm going to say something else.

00:25:39.000 So it was working perfectly?

00:25:40.000 It wasn't working.

00:25:41.000 We have a different kind of issue now with so many families and children.

00:25:46.000 Why?

00:25:48.000 Okay, so you can hear Greg Gutfeld shouting over and over, why?

00:25:51.000 Why?

00:25:52.000 And Juan Williams will not answer the question because here is the why.

00:25:55.000 Tom Perez, head of the DNC, explains.

00:25:58.000 That he doesn't want a tough border policy. 0.98

00:25:59.000 He thinks a tough border policy is dumb. 0.96

00:26:01.000 He wants open borders. 0.97

00:26:02.000 That's the real rationale here.

00:26:04.000 People in the Democratic Party are using this as a wedge issue to try and drive Hispanic voters to the polls.

00:26:08.000 They want to portray the Trump administration as cruel and inhumane.

00:26:12.000 They want to increase the number of people who potentially will be given amnesty so that they will vote Democrat.

00:26:16.000 This is not about the humane treatment of people crossing the border.

00:26:19.000 I want all those people treated humanely.

00:26:21.000 So do you.

00:26:22.000 Everyone wants people who are entering the country and legitimately have asylum claims treated humanely.

00:26:26.000 I want them kept in comfortable conditions while they await the trial to which they are entitled on their asylum claim.

00:26:33.000 And I want people who are falsely claiming asylum not to be able to enter the country.

00:26:36.000 I want those people to go to the back of the line and not cut the line.

00:26:40.000 And I want those people to apply the normal way.

00:26:43.000 And I have deep sympathy for people who are trying to get into the country. 0.97

00:26:47.000 I am essentially libertarian on immigration except for two issues.

00:26:50.000 Welfare use and cultural assimilation. 0.70

00:26:52.000 I think the people who come to the United States should assimilate into traditional American values, meaning a belief in small government, meaning a belief that the government is not the solution to everybody's problems, meaning a belief in free speech, a belief in private property, right?

00:27:04.000 All of these sort of Anglo-Saxon notions of law.

00:27:08.000 I think that everyone, including my great-grandparents, had to come and assimilate to those.

00:27:11.000 I think that is a good thing.

00:27:13.000 I think that is piece number one.

00:27:15.000 And piece number two, you shouldn't come here and be dependent on welfare.

00:27:18.000 Neither of those seem particularly arguable to me.

00:27:20.000 You fulfill those two conditions, I think not only should we welcome you in, we should encourage you to come.

00:27:25.000 I think all of that is good.

00:27:27.000 And I want people who are trying to get in treated well.

00:27:29.000 This is not about trying to treat people with cruelty.

00:27:31.000 I don't want kids separated from their parents either.

00:27:35.000 I don't want any of that stuff.

00:27:36.000 But the courts have made a standard that is not enforceable other than for the president to do nothing about illegal immigration.

00:27:42.000 And that's precisely what Democrats want.

00:27:43.000 Here's Tom Perez from the DNC basically just saying that out loud.

00:27:47.000 The notion that this secretary who will live in infamy, who is now no longer there, is going to be replaced by someone that he wants to be quote-unquote tougher, they're losing sight of the point here.

00:28:00.000 The point is to be smarter.

00:28:02.000 When you're smarter, you're better.

00:28:04.000 When I keep hearing talk about tough, tough doesn't equal smart. 0.99

00:28:08.000 Tough equals dumb. 0.95

00:28:10.000 And we need to make sure we have smart law enforcement. 0.97

00:28:13.000 That's how we can address the challenges at the border. 0.99

00:28:17.000 Tough equals dumb. 0.90

00:28:18.000 I mean, if that is not a campaign ad for President Trump for 2020, I don't know what is, legitimately. 1.00

00:28:22.000 Tough equals dumb. 0.99

00:28:23.000 So if you are tough on tens of thousands of people entering the border illegally, And then falsely claiming asylum, then that's dumb. 0.99

00:28:31.000 That's the real agenda here.

00:28:32.000 So you paint Trump as cruel, you use the federal courts to knock down any policy he attempts to pass, you have Democrats stand out front and rip on the cruelty while simultaneously depriving the Border Patrol and Immigration and Naturalization and depriving Immigration and Customs Enforcement from being able to take care of the people crossing the border properly, and then you claim that you are just being compassionate.

00:28:53.000 What a convenient, convenient thing for members of the Democratic Party.

00:28:57.000 It is pretty astonishing.

00:28:58.000 It is also deeply, deeply dishonest.

00:29:00.000 But I guess we're used to that at this point from folks on the left when it comes to the immigration decision.

00:29:06.000 They are constantly claiming that there is some sort of secret, there's some sort of secret motivation behind Trump's policy on immigration.

00:29:12.000 I don't know.

00:29:12.000 Maybe there is.

00:29:14.000 But I'll tell you this.

00:29:15.000 As an American citizen who wants immigrants treated humanely, I also want to make sure that people who come in the country are not criminals, are legitimately claiming asylum under America's laws, are treated humanely, and are not let in willy-nilly and then just sent to the middle of the country.

00:29:30.000 I don't see why any of these things are mutually exclusive, and they shouldn't be.

00:29:33.000 Democrats have made them mutually exclusive.

00:29:35.000 The media have made them mutually exclusive.

00:29:37.000 It's really bad stuff.

00:29:38.000 Okay, coming up, we're going to talk about a letter from Kyle Korver, who's an NBA player, all about accepting his white privilege.

00:29:45.000 And we'll talk about what's right and what's wrong in the letter, because I think there's some actual interesting complexity to the letter.

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00:30:44.000 All righty.

00:30:50.000 So, meanwhile, there's this article that is getting all sorts of play by a forward named Kyle Korver, who plays for the Utah Jazz.

00:30:59.000 Pretty good three-point shooter.

00:31:01.000 And it's all about how he is privileged.

00:31:03.000 He wrote it for the Player's Tribune, which is this publication... Is it LeBron James' publication?

00:31:07.000 I'm trying to remember whose publication it is.

00:31:09.000 In any case...

00:31:11.000 Is it Derek Jeter?

00:31:12.000 I can't remember.

00:31:12.000 In any case, the Players' Tribune is a place where a lot of professional athletes write about their thoughts.

00:31:18.000 Kyle Cover has this piece that is being widely distributed and shown as this is an example of how white people should act on the issue of race.

00:31:25.000 And so I think it's worthwhile going through it because there's some stuff here that's meritorious and there is some stuff here that is really not.

00:31:31.000 That's an over-read of the situation and creates a standard that is unfulfillable.

00:31:34.000 So, here's what Kyle Corver writes.

00:31:36.000 He says, When the police break your teammate's leg, you'd think it would wake you up a little.

00:31:39.000 When they arrest him on a New York street, throw him in jail for the night, and leave him with a season-ending injury, you'd think it would sink in.

00:31:44.000 You'd think you'd know there was more to the story.

00:31:46.000 You'd think.

00:31:47.000 But nope.

00:31:47.000 I still remember my reaction when I first heard what had happened to Thabo.

00:31:50.000 This is his teammate.

00:31:52.000 I'm trying to remember the teammate's name.

00:31:54.000 It's Thabo Cephalakis, I can't... I believe?

00:31:57.000 It was 2015, late in the season.

00:31:59.000 Thabo and I were teammates on the Hawks, and we'd flown into New York late after a game in Atlanta.

00:32:03.000 When I woke up the next morning, our team group text was going nuts.

00:32:06.000 Details were still hazy, but guys were saying Thabo hurt his leg during an arrest.

00:32:09.000 Wait, he spent the night in jail?

00:32:11.000 Everyone was pretty upset and confused.

00:32:13.000 Well, almost everyone.

00:32:14.000 My response was different.

00:32:15.000 I'm embarrassed to admit it, which is why I want to share it with you today.

00:32:19.000 He said that they were friends, and he talked about how they had hung out a lot.

00:32:23.000 He said that when he found out that Thabo had been arrested, his first reaction was, what was Thabo doing out at a club on a back-to-back?

00:32:29.000 Not how's he doing, not what happened during the arrest, not something seems off with this story, nothing like that.

00:32:34.000 Before I knew the full story, before I'd even had a chance to talk to Thabo, I sort of blamed Thabo.

00:32:38.000 I thought, well, if I'd been in Thabo's shoes out at a club late at night, the police wouldn't have arrested me, not unless I was doing something wrong.

00:32:44.000 Cringe.

00:32:44.000 It's not like it was a conscious thought.

00:32:45.000 It was pure reflex, the first thing to pop into my head.

00:32:48.000 And I was worried about him, no doubt, but still, cringe.

00:32:50.000 It turns out that Thabo ended up settling with the city of New York and the NYPD.

00:32:54.000 He got like a $4 million settlement.

00:32:56.000 It fell away from the news.

00:32:58.000 Thabo had surgery and went back through rehab, but he couldn't shake his discomfort because his first reaction was, what was he doing out at a club on a back-to-back?

00:33:05.000 Well, first of all, that's a legit question.

00:33:06.000 Like, why was he out at a club?

00:33:08.000 Why was your other teammate also out at a club on a back-to-back?

00:33:10.000 These two things are not mutually exclusive.

00:33:12.000 You shouldn't be out at a club on a back-to-back, presumably.

00:33:15.000 Also, there are racist police officers who sometimes do racist things, which it appears is what happened in this case, although the police actually tried to prosecute this player and suggested he resisted arrest, and it is unclear from all the surrounding evidence what exactly happened.

00:33:29.000 Nonetheless, Kyle Corver talks about this.

00:33:31.000 He says, That when he heard that Russell Westbrook and a fan exchanged words during a game, his initial reaction was, you know Russell Westbrook, he gets into it with the crowd a lot.

00:33:41.000 And then the full story came out later.

00:33:42.000 What happened was that a fan had said some really ugly things at close range to Westbrook.

00:33:46.000 Westbrook had responded.

00:33:47.000 After the game, he said he felt the comments were racially charged.

00:33:50.000 The incident struck a nerve with our team.

00:33:52.000 is what Kyle Korver writes.

00:33:53.000 In a closed-door meeting with the president of the Jazz the next day, my teammates shared stories of similar experiences they'd had, a feeling degraded in ways that went beyond acceptable heckling.

00:34:00.000 One teammate talked about how his mom had called him right after the game, concerned for his safety in Salt Lake City.

00:34:05.000 One teammate said the night felt like being in a zoo.

00:34:07.000 One of the guys in the meeting was Thabo.

00:34:08.000 My teammate in Utah now, I looked over at him and remembered his night in New York City.

00:34:12.000 Everyone was upset.

00:34:13.000 I was upset and embarrassed too.

00:34:14.000 But there was another emotion in the room that day, one that was harder to put a finger on.

00:34:18.000 It was almost like disappointment mixed with exhaustion.

00:34:20.000 Guys were just sick and tired of it all.

00:34:23.000 He said, this wasn't the first time they'd taken part in conversations about race in their NBA careers.

00:34:27.000 It wasn't the first time they'd had to address the hateful actions of others.

00:34:30.000 And one big thing that got brought up a lot in the meetings was how incidents like this, they weren't only about the people directly involved.

00:34:35.000 They weren't about Russ and some heckler.

00:34:36.000 It was about more than that.

00:34:38.000 It was about what it means to exist right now as a person of color in a mostly white space.

00:34:41.000 It was about racism in America.

00:34:43.000 He says, before the meeting ended, I joined the team's demand for a swift response and a promise from the jazz organization that it would address the concerns we had.

00:34:50.000 So here is the question.

00:34:51.000 The first question.

00:34:53.000 When he says that this was about racism in America.

00:34:55.000 When there's a racist person who yells something at a player at a basketball game and then is ejected for the rest of the season.

00:35:00.000 Is that about racism in America? 0.99

00:35:01.000 Or is it about a guy being a jackass? 0.98

00:35:04.000 So, there's a tendency on the left to attribute every individual fault to society at large. 0.97

00:35:10.000 If a person commits a crime, that's because society is brutally unequal.

00:35:14.000 And if a person is a racist, that's because society is deeply racist.

00:35:18.000 Society is always responsible for the actions of the individual. 0.89

00:35:21.000 And you can see in this piece, Korver trying to internalize that and saying, well, I am part of society, therefore I am responsible for the actions of this random racist fan, even though I think that the guy is a jackass, and even though I sided with the people who are calling on him to be banned.

00:35:36.000 And then he talks about how he has a guilt that he simply cannot wash away, really.

00:35:42.000 I mean, that's really what he gets down to.

00:35:44.000 He says that there's an elephant in the room I've been thinking about a lot over these last few weeks.

00:35:48.000 It's the fact that demographically, if we're being honest, I have more in common with the fans and the crowd at your average NBA game than I have with the players on the court.

00:35:54.000 Which, there's nothing that you can do about that.

00:35:57.000 I mean, your race is unchangeable.

00:35:59.000 He says, I'm beginning to understand how that means something.

00:36:01.000 I'm realizing no matter how passionately I commit to being an ally, no matter how unwavering my support is for NBA and WNBA players of color, I'm still in this conversation from the privileged perspective of opting into it, which of course means that on the flip side, I could just as easily opt out of it.

00:36:15.000 Every day I'm given that choice.

00:36:16.000 I'm granted that privilege based on the color of my skin.

00:36:18.000 I don't even know what that means.

00:36:19.000 I mean, legitimately, I do not know what that means.

00:36:22.000 What gives you the privilege of opting out of a conversation on racism?

00:36:26.000 I mean, it's the duty of every good person to call out racism when they see it, so where exactly do you get to run away from it?

00:36:31.000 You will not be victimized by racism in the same way a black person will be. 1.00

00:36:35.000 That's true.

00:36:36.000 But that's not the same thing as saying that you simply get to opt out.

00:36:39.000 A good person is good or bad, not dependent on the color of their skin.

00:36:43.000 Here's where you get into really dicey territory.

00:36:45.000 Korver says, in other words, I can say every right thing in the world.

00:36:48.000 I can voice my solidarity with Russell Westbrook after what happened in Utah.

00:36:51.000 I can evolve my position on what happened to Thabo in New York.

00:36:54.000 I can be that weird dude in Get Out bragging about how he'd have voted for Obama a third term.

00:36:58.000 I can condemn every racist heckler I've ever known, but I can also fade into the crowd.

00:37:02.000 And my face can blend in with the faces of those hecklers anytime I want.

00:37:05.000 Well, no, that's not right.

00:37:09.000 Why are you the same as they are?

00:37:11.000 You're an individual.

00:37:12.000 Why would your face blend in with the faces of the heckler?

00:37:15.000 What makes the heckler the heckler is the sound coming out of the face, not the face itself.

00:37:19.000 To attribute the thought to the color is to slander an entire group of people in which you are now claiming membership.

00:37:26.000 He says, I'm trying to ask myself what I should actually do.

00:37:29.000 How can I, as a white man, part of the systemic problem, become part of the solution?

00:37:32.000 Why are you part of the problem?

00:37:33.000 Did you do something?

00:37:35.000 He says, I have to listen.

00:37:36.000 I have to continue to educate myself on the history of racism in America.

00:37:39.000 Well, we should all do those things.

00:37:42.000 But this part is where he gets into it.

00:37:45.000 Basically, I have to kowtow to the politics of people who look different than I do because I am not part of that group.

00:37:50.000 I have to support leaders.

00:37:51.000 This is what he writes.

00:37:51.000 I have to support leaders who see racial justice as fundamental, as something that's at the heart of nearly every major issue in our country today.

00:37:57.000 And I have to support policies that do the same.

00:37:59.000 No.

00:38:01.000 You don't.

00:38:01.000 It depends on the leaders and whether their ideas are good.

00:38:04.000 Why do you have to listen to everything Al Sharpton has to say because you happen to be a different color from Al Sharpton and the same color as some people who are racist?

00:38:11.000 You don't own the actions of other white people just because you happen to be white any more than a Muslim owns the actions of every radical Muslim or a black person owns the actions of every other black person. 0.86

00:38:22.000 This is self-imposed racial hierarchy. 0.99

00:38:25.000 It's gross.

00:38:27.000 This is where you get into a problem.

00:38:28.000 And Kyle Korver then makes this point.

00:38:31.000 And this is the point he's being praised far and wide for.

00:38:34.000 And I don't think that it is a good point.

00:38:36.000 He says, Two concepts I've been thinking about a lot later are guilt and responsibility.

00:38:40.000 When it comes to racism in America, I think guilt and responsibility tend to be seen as more or less the same thing.

00:38:45.000 But I'm beginning to understand how there's a real difference.

00:38:47.000 As white people, are we guilty of the sins of our forefathers?

00:38:50.000 No, I don't think so.

00:38:51.000 But are we responsible for them?

00:38:53.000 Yes, I believe we are.

00:38:55.000 Okay.

00:38:56.000 Explain.

00:38:57.000 So here's what Korver says.

00:38:58.000 I guess I've come to realize that when we talk about solutions to systemic racism, police reform, workplace diversity, affirmative action, better access to health care, even reparations, it's not about guilt.

00:39:06.000 It's not about pointing fingers or passing blame.

00:39:08.000 It's about responsibility.

00:39:10.000 It's about understanding that when we've said the word equality for generations, what we've really meant is equality for a certain group of people.

00:39:16.000 Here's sloppy thinking and sloppy writing.

00:39:19.000 He says it's about understanding that when we've said the word equality, what we've really meant is equality for a certain group of people.

00:39:24.000 Who's this we?

00:39:25.000 When I've said the word equality, I don't mean for a certain group of people, and neither does Kyle Korver.

00:39:29.000 So now, he's actually merging back in guilt and responsibility.

00:39:33.000 He is saying that we, like Kyle Korver today, is responsible for 60 years ago, somebody not meaning black people when they talked about equality.

00:39:41.000 He says it's about understanding that when we've said the word inequality for generations, what we've really meant is slavery and its aftermath.

00:39:48.000 No, I don't believe that that's true.

00:39:50.000 When I've said inequality, I don't mean slavery and its aftermath.

00:39:55.000 So, he basically suggests that the only way to be a woke person, the only way to fight racism, is for white people to shut up, and then listen to black activists, and then suggest that they are right on everything, because we could, after all, recede into the racist background.

00:40:12.000 And you can see this manifest in Kyle Korver's recommended policy.

00:40:15.000 So when he says that there's a difference between guilt and responsibility, that of course is correct.

00:40:19.000 I have a responsibility for my child, And that's not about guilt or innocence.

00:40:23.000 I have a responsibility for people who live in my community to help them out.

00:40:27.000 That's why I give charity.

00:40:29.000 But that is not the suggestion of slavery reparations.

00:40:31.000 The suggestion of slavery reparations is that I am guilty for a sin of the past and therefore I owe something to this person.

00:40:39.000 Not as a fellow citizen, but for the sins of the past for which I am somehow guilty.

00:40:44.000 This is why I don't have any problem with folks on the left talking about rectifying inequality through government policy, except that I think that they are wrong.

00:40:51.000 I think it is counterproductive.

00:40:52.000 I don't agree with the principles undergirding their use of government to do this thing, but I don't have a generalized problem with the sort of left-leaning policy that says that economic inequality requires government intervention.

00:41:05.000 Again, I disagree with the policy, but the underlying motivation, at least I understand, But I am not okay with the slavery reparations conversation that implies guilt for past sins for white people, for example, because now you're not separating people based on wealth or non-wealth.

00:41:20.000 Now you are separating people specifically based on race and imputing responsibility and guilt for actions to a group of people who legitimately had nothing to do with that thing.

00:41:30.000 That's why when you see people like Cory Booker pushing an investigation of slavery reparations, he can't explain what he would do with slavery reparations.

00:41:36.000 No Democrat has.

00:41:38.000 Because they understand immediately that other than their generalized government policy they'd be pushing anyway, there's no way to do this without imputing guilt to a certain group of people who are actually not guilty for these actions.

00:41:49.000 So where does Korver go with this?

00:41:50.000 In the end he says, I believe that what's happening to people of color in this country right now in 2019 is wrong.

00:41:56.000 Now you can believe that without actually having to accept that you are somehow a privileged member of society in believing that.

00:42:05.000 By the way, I think it is worthwhile noting that in the NBA, the vast majority of players who are earning millions of dollars are black.

00:42:10.000 That is not an imputation of black privilege.

00:42:13.000 That's because the NBA is a meritocracy.

00:42:14.000 That has nothing to do with racism.

00:42:17.000 Anyway, Korver says, the fact that black Americans are more than five times as likely to be incarcerated as white Americans is wrong.

00:42:23.000 No, the fact is not wrong.

00:42:24.000 The fact is the fact.

00:42:26.000 Unless you can explain how that is a result of a racist criminal justice system.

00:42:30.000 And which people are innocent who are being put in prison for no reason, you got no basis for saying that the fact is wrong.

00:42:36.000 The fact that black Americans are more than twice as likely to live in poverty as white Americans is wrong.

00:42:41.000 Okay, it's a fact I don't like, but is it wrong?

00:42:44.000 Well, it depends.

00:42:46.000 Where is the poverty coming from?

00:42:47.000 If it is the result of a historic injustice like Jim Crow, yes, that's wrong.

00:42:51.000 And then we say, okay, what is the best way to solve that?

00:42:54.000 But if that poverty is coming from you making a decision to have a baby out of wedlock and not finish high school, the fact is the fact.

00:43:04.000 The fact that black unemployment rates nationally are double that of overall unemployment rates is wrong.

00:43:08.000 Again, this is Bernie Sanders talk, where basically any inequality is inequity.

00:43:14.000 Any disparity is discrimination.

00:43:16.000 And if you don't accept that, then you're not woke enough.

00:43:19.000 So at least Kyle Corver got woke.

00:43:21.000 This is the kind of language you see on college campuses a lot, and I don't happen to think that it is a particularly useful form of discourse.

00:43:28.000 We should all try to understand the experiences of black people in the United States, of course.

00:43:33.000 We should all try to think of each other as brothers and sisters, of course.

00:43:36.000 But this basic notion that when you see a racist heckler in the crowd, that you somehow have a shared commonality with the racist heckler more than you do with the person being heckled, that is you breaking yourself down into a person Who is a member of a group by dint of color, as opposed to you being an individual who gets to make your own decisions in life about how you wish to act.

00:43:56.000 Obviously, Kyle Corver has much more in common with the NBA player who is black standing next to him on the court than the white heckler in the crowd.

00:44:03.000 Obviously.

00:44:05.000 And this notion that he could choose to just fade away.

00:44:08.000 He just, that's true.

00:44:09.000 And that would be immoral.

00:44:10.000 That's why morality is not dependent on your group identity.

00:44:14.000 Okay, time for some things I like and then some things that I hate.

00:44:17.000 So things I like.

00:44:19.000 My wife has been staying up extraordinarily late watching this show on Amazon called The Widow with Kate Beckinsale.

00:44:24.000 The show is really good.

00:44:26.000 It's sort of an action drama mystery thriller thing.

00:44:30.000 Kate Beckinsale plays this woman whose husband allegedly dies in a plane crash.

00:44:35.000 He didn't actually die in the plane crash and she finds out a few years later he did not die.

00:44:38.000 So where has he been all the time?

00:44:39.000 Why didn't he call her?

00:44:40.000 That's the premise of the show.

00:44:41.000 Here's a little bit of the preview.

00:44:44.000 Where is my husband?

00:44:47.000 Georgia, people don't just walk away from a plane crash.

00:44:53.000 They don't just fall out of the sky and carry on with their lives.

00:44:57.000 You're chasing a ghost.

00:45:00.000 Hey! 0.99

00:45:00.000 I left you something in the glove compartment. 0.99

00:45:05.000 Did you?

00:45:08.000 Happy anniversary.

00:45:08.000 Georgia.

00:45:11.000 Georgia.

00:45:13.000 Georgia, you really need to forget about...

00:45:17.000 Okay, so the show is good.

00:45:18.000 It's got a bunch of good...

00:45:18.000 Kate Beckinsale is actually quite good in the show.

00:45:21.000 Almost good enough to make me forgive her for dating Pete Davidson.

00:45:24.000 Okay, okay.

00:45:26.000 It's just a joke, guys.

00:45:26.000 She can date whoever she wants, obviously, even if the person happens to be a generation younger than her and...

00:45:32.000 It's a weird pairing.

00:45:33.000 In any case, it is a puzzling, puzzling thing to every human who is watching.

00:45:40.000 In any case, the show is really good and worth checking out, so go check that out right now.

00:45:44.000 Okay, now a bunch of things that I hate.

00:45:50.000 Okay, so thing that I hate, number one, there's a restaurant that is now being raked over the coals by Yelp reviewers.

00:45:57.000 There's a woman who is white, and she opened a Chinese food restaurant called Lucky Lee's in New York City.

00:46:04.000 And she is, and this was tweeted out by some activist named Lanya Olmsted, who tweeted, wow, wow, wow.

00:46:10.000 This white woman pictured just opened a clean Chinese food restaurant in New York City called Bucky Lee's. 1.00

00:46:15.000 Not only is she using Chinese food stereotypes, naming, she is shaming traditional Chinese food cooking with MSG, grease, and starch. 0.88

00:46:23.000 She is not woke enough, you see, because she called her restaurant a Chinese name because it is a Chinese restaurant.

00:46:31.000 What's she gonna call it?

00:46:32.000 Bob's?

00:46:32.000 Bob's the Chinese food restaurant?

00:46:35.000 Of course she is using a Chinese name to demonstrate that it is- Like, if somebody opened a deli, if somebody opened a deli, and their last name happened to be Smith, I wouldn't expect them to call it Smith's Deli.

00:46:47.000 If they called it Stein's, I wouldn't be like, oh, cultural appropriation, that's so terrible, oh my go- They're trying to convey that it's a Jewish-style deli, like wha- So this lady has now been hit by crazy Yelp reviews.

00:46:59.000 Hashtag Asian stereotype. 0.73

00:47:02.000 First, close the doors.

00:47:02.000 This is offensive on so many levels.

00:47:06.000 So everybody is going after this woman.

00:47:08.000 They're saying, love to watch Becky go bankrupt for racist appropriation.

00:47:13.000 So also, I'm confused.

00:47:15.000 Are we supposed to be in favor of MSG or against MSG?

00:47:17.000 So I guess when Chinese people use MSG in their cooking, then it's good and traditional. 1.00

00:47:21.000 When white people don't use MSG, then that becomes cultural stereotyping. 0.74

00:47:25.000 This is all nonsense. 0.81

00:47:26.000 We are not going to be able to live in a society like this. 0.99

00:47:28.000 So gross, guys. 0.77

00:47:29.000 I mean, honestly, get a life. 0.98

00:47:30.000 So gross, guys. 0.94

00:47:42.000 I mean, honestly, get a life. 0.97

00:47:43.000 Get a life.

00:47:44.000 And meanwhile, other things that I hate.

00:47:49.000 So Bernie Sanders is ripping on Fox News again.

00:47:53.000 He says that Fox News is a propaganda outlet.

00:47:56.000 I will give it to Bernie.

00:47:56.000 I mean, Bernie is obviously acting like a frontrunner here.

00:47:58.000 He actually he is the only Nixon can go to China and only Bernie can go to Fox News.

00:48:02.000 So he's going to do a town hall on Fox News, which honestly is kind of It's kind of awesome.

00:48:07.000 Like, good for him.

00:48:08.000 I've offered to have a discussion or debate with Bernie Sanders many, many times.

00:48:12.000 He's never done anything like this.

00:48:13.000 But going into hostile territory, he's right.

00:48:15.000 He figures that if he gets shellacked by the Fox News host, he can go and complain to his base and they'll be happy with him.

00:48:20.000 And if he does a great job, then he ends up with a big win.

00:48:24.000 He's acting like the frontrunner.

00:48:25.000 If Biden had gone on Fox News, he'd be hit by the online left for presumably Here's Bernie Sanders, though, slandering Fox News as a propaganda outlet while proclaiming he will appear on it nonetheless.

00:48:38.000 For better or for worse, and it is for worse, for whatever reason, you know, Fox has a huge viewing audience.

00:48:44.000 And to simply say that we're not going to talk to millions of people who watch that network, I don't think is smart.

00:48:53.000 When I go on Fox, what I will say is, look, many of you voted for Donald Trump, but he lied to you.

00:48:58.000 How do you explain that to people who voted for Trump, if you don't talk to people who voted for Trump?

00:49:02.000 Working people need to know the truth, and that is that Donald Trump betrayed them, lied to them.

00:49:07.000 And I intend to do that.

00:49:08.000 Okay, so he is wrong about all of these things.

00:49:10.000 But, you know, it is amazing how he and many members of the left will call Fox News a propaganda outlet while appearing on a place like MSNBC.

00:49:17.000 Okay, final thing that I hate.

00:49:19.000 So New York has now had to declare a health emergency over a measles outbreak because there are too many people getting the measles.

00:49:25.000 They've ordered mandatory vaccinations for people exposed to the virus because measles does, in fact, kill people.

00:49:30.000 And it had been basically eliminated in the United States thanks to vaccination.

00:49:34.000 And then thanks to people who are... Sometimes it's religious people. 0.99

00:49:38.000 Sometimes it is secular leftists who like essential oils and have bought into all this nonsense about vaccinations.

00:49:44.000 Vaccinate your kids, guys.

00:49:45.000 I mean, legitimately.

00:49:46.000 Vaccinate your kids. 0.98

00:49:48.000 The supposed evidence linking vaccinations to autism is a bunch of hooey.

00:49:52.000 And the fact that we have gotten rid of diseases that have plagued humanity for legitimately thousands of years and that we are now seeing those diseases rise again is a pretty terrible thing.

00:50:02.000 Vaccinate your kids. 0.98

00:50:04.000 Please.

00:50:05.000 All right, so we'll be back here a little bit later today with a couple more hours of content for you.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - April 09, 2019

The Immigration Conflagration | Ep. 755

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