The Ben Shapiro Show - June 10, 2022


The January 6th Election Extravaganza Begins! | Ep. 1512

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The January 6th Committee rolls out its prime time special with Liz Cheney taking the starring role, and we examine what the Democratic telethon did and did not accomplish. Ben Shapiro is the host of The Ben Shapiro Show on the Fox News Channel and host of the conservative podcast, "The Weekly Standard". He is a regular contributor to The Weekly Standard and has been featured in the New York Times, CNN, CBS, NPR, and other publications. His work has also been featured on NPR, CBS Radio, Fox News, NPR Worldwide, and many other media outlets, including The Huffington Post, The Hill, and The Hill Online, among other publications, and he is one of the few people in the country with a degree from Harvard Law School, and a degree in political science from the Berkman Center for National Security Studies at the Fletcher School of Political Science at Tufts University, where he is a Fellow at the prestigious Fletcher Center for International Relations, and an Assistant Professor in the Department of Politics at the Kennedy School of American Studies at Harvard University, as well as a Fellow in the Program for the Program at the Center for American Political Science, and the Program Director at Harvard's Center for the Study of American Politics and Leadership at the Program, the Fletcher Center, and at the University of St. John's College. The show is sponsored by ExpressVPN, and it's time to stand up against Big Tech! ExpressVPN is helping you anonymize much of your online presence by hiding your IP address, that allows Big Tech to match your activity back to you. It s that simple, right now! Get three months of ExpressVPN for FREE! That s E-XP-R-E-S-V-P-N-N) for three months free! -Ben Shapiro Show is the show Ben Shapiro on the Ben Shapiro show on the Show on The show on The Ben Show on The Fox News Radio Show on and The New York Post on The Tonight Show on Fox News on the 21st Hour on The Hill on the 19th and 27th Street Podcast on The Five and the Other Thing on The 21st Thing on The Sixth Thing on This Afternoone on The Fifth and The Morning After on Wednesday, On The Fifth And The Other Thing On The 27th And The Third Thing on This Is It On The Third Place on The Fourth Thing on Thanksgiving Day on ,

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00:00:00.000 The January 6th committee rolls out its prime time special with Liz Cheney taking the starring role and we examine what the Democratic telethon did and did not accomplish.
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00:01:29.000 So last night was the prime time special.
00:01:32.000 It was the moment we've all been waiting for by all of us.
00:01:36.000 I mean.
00:01:37.000 Basically just the members of the media, because I would imagine that very few Americans actually spent a lot of time watching these hearings.
00:01:44.000 That is particularly true since they began with a bunch of grandstanding by Congress people, which is not the way you program a primetime special.
00:01:52.000 Far be it from me, a person who runs an actual large media outlet that programs on a consistent basis, to tell the democratic policy makers that nobody actually wants to hear them jabber at a camera, but nobody actually wants to hear them jabber at a camera.
00:02:04.000 There are a bunch of sort of imagistic mistakes that were made very early on in the January 6th special that was produced last night for mass consumption via all the networks except for Fox News. 0.96
00:02:14.000 The number one mistake is don't put a bunch of jabbering idiots in front of a camera and have them talk for 10 minutes before you actually start showing any footage. 0.89
00:02:22.000 But before we even get to what happened last night, we have to set the table. 0.97
00:02:25.000 Because we have to determine what exactly is the January 6th special attempting to do?
00:02:30.000 What exactly was the goal here?
00:02:32.000 So there are a bunch of things that we have to hold simultaneously in our minds.
00:02:35.000 Because many things can be true at once.
00:02:37.000 And this has been true since January 6th happened.
00:02:40.000 And I said on that day, I thought it was an awful, ugly day.
00:02:43.000 I thought the images of people rushing into the Capitol building with violence on their minds were the most hideous images that I had seen in my political lifetime.
00:02:51.000 All of that can be true.
00:02:52.000 Also, you can say it was not a true threat to democracy because the entire place was clear within two hours and, or three hours, and everybody Just went ahead and certified an election that had already been certified at the state level in consonance with the United States Constitution and President Trump ended up leaving office on January 20th, 2021.
00:03:10.000 All of those things can be true at once.
00:03:12.000 It happens to be perfectly true that a bunch of people Who believed President Trump's rhetoric between November 4th and January 6th, went and protested, and didn't riot, and didn't end up in the Capitol building.
00:03:23.000 And many of those who ended up in the Capitol building were ushered in by actual police officers opening doors, and many of them were not.
00:03:30.000 They were there to actually commit acts of violence.
00:03:31.000 All these things can be true at once because life is messy.
00:03:34.000 Life is messy.
00:03:37.000 What the Democrats are trying to do here is draw a clear line.
00:03:40.000 And the clear logical line is if you don't vote for us in November, it's because you're in favor of January 6th.
00:03:44.000 That was the goal here.
00:03:46.000 It was a grandstanding move to do this primetime special in the first place without offering any really seriously new evidence.
00:03:52.000 The January 6th committee should be dedicated to legislative purposes.
00:03:56.000 I mean, typically, this is what congressional committees are designed to do.
00:03:59.000 They have to, by law, either perform an oversight function or a legislative function.
00:04:04.000 This investigative committee performed neither.
00:04:07.000 It is there specifically as a political tool, as you can tell because Nancy Pelosi basically nixed any Republican who didn't already agree with the predetermined agenda before the January 6th committee was formed. 0.96
00:04:17.000 But the January 6th Committee does not have an oversight function here in the sense that they are not really attempting to determine where federal dollars were spent and where they were not spent and what was done in consonance with legislation by Congress at the executive branch level.
00:04:30.000 And it's not a legislative function because they're not actually changing any laws with regard to this sort of stuff.
00:04:34.000 You know this because they're not asking questions about, like, what is the D.C.
00:04:37.000 Capitol Police protocol?
00:04:39.000 How do they deal with stuff like this?
00:04:40.000 Where was the National Guard and why was Nancy Pelosi, for example, not requesting extra National Guard before this event when we know that law enforcement had been warning of the possibility of violence in advance of the event?
00:04:52.000 And these are questions that wouldn't be dispositive.
00:04:55.000 It wouldn't answer all the questions, but these are certainly relevant questions to ask in the context of an investigation as to what actually happened on January 6th.
00:05:01.000 Because all of these questions should be on the table, right?
00:05:03.000 What were the security protocols?
00:05:04.000 Why were people allowed to breach the Capitol?
00:05:06.000 Why wasn't there more police presence at the Capitol?
00:05:09.000 Why wasn't the National Guard preemptively there?
00:05:12.000 And that can all go along with, was there any coordination between political figures and people who are attempting to breach the Capitol or all the rest of this?
00:05:19.000 But none of that was done because the basic goal here is to weaponize January 6th as a talking point for 2022.
00:05:25.000 And unfortunately, that's what January 6th became immediately in the aftermath, like right away.
00:05:32.000 Pretty much all Americans agree that January 6th was a hideous and ugly event.
00:05:36.000 And when I say January 6th, I don't mean the giant protest.
00:05:38.000 I mean the small number, relatively speaking, of rioters who broke into the Capitol attempting to do harm to people.
00:05:44.000 I am beating police officers and all the rest.
00:05:46.000 Virtually all Americans agree on this by polling data.
00:05:49.000 But that is not what this narrative turned into.
00:05:51.000 Immediately, it was turned into a political narrative about how if you supported Donald Trump in 2020, in the election, this means that you supported his rhetoric.
00:05:58.000 If you supported his rhetoric after November 4th, this means that you supported riots.
00:06:02.000 And if you vote for Republicans in 2022 who are not named Donald Trump, it's because you support Donald Trump, his rhetoric, and the riots.
00:06:08.000 That is the basic chain of logic that Democrats are trying to drive here.
00:06:12.000 And this is not a secret.
00:06:13.000 Again, the New York Times wrote just a couple of days ago, quote, January 6th hearings give Democrats a chance to recast midterm message because they need something.
00:06:20.000 They're getting skunked in the polls.
00:06:21.000 And the only time Democrats have been able to win in the recent past is running against Donald Trump.
00:06:27.000 That is the only, I mean, Joe Biden himself has said this.
00:06:29.000 He said that he's not sure, you know, whether he's going to run again, kind of.
00:06:32.000 Maybe his health will prevent him.
00:06:34.000 Maybe it won't.
00:06:35.000 And then he's asked about Donald Trump.
00:06:36.000 He's like, oh man, I really want to run again.
00:06:37.000 The perception by Democrats is that Donald Trump is the most beatable Republican and people who associate with Donald Trump are the most beatable Republicans, which is why Democrats spent an awful lot of money pushing, for example, Doug Mastriano in Pennsylvania.
00:06:48.000 Because Dagmar Strano was in January 6th.
00:06:50.000 The idea is, there are threats to democracy.
00:06:52.000 There's such a threat to democracy.
00:06:53.000 Also, if you guys could nominate people like that, and if you could side with people like that, that would be really good, because then we can run against that.
00:06:59.000 Which suggests Democrats really don't think that they're a threat to democracy so much, because Democrats know better than anybody that the polarization of American politics means that if Democrats attack somebody, they are likely to create an enormous amount of support for the person they are attacking.
00:07:13.000 Because we live in that polarized time.
00:07:16.000 So, again, the logic here for the Democrats when it comes to January 6th, and I don't think that, you know, when it comes to Liz Cheney or Adam Kinzinger, I'm not sure that they have the same logic.
00:07:25.000 I think that perhaps they're being naive, perhaps they're just being useful idiots for the Democrats at this point, or perhaps they have a principled feeling that January 6th really was a deep and abiding threat to democracy and that democracy is, whatever it is, I don't know that they have the same motivations as the partisan Democrats who are pushing this stuff, but the partisan Democrats who are pushing this stuff Again, using that logic.
00:07:49.000 The logic is, if you supported Trump in 2020 against Joe Biden, you supported everything he could possibly do or say. 0.94
00:07:55.000 If you support him in the election, that means that you supported everything that he did after the election.
00:07:59.000 If you had doubts about the election, not with regard just to voter fraud, but for example, with regard to voter procedure, With regard to ballot harvesting, with regard to widespread absentee voting, if you had problems with the media coverage, then this all conflates together with you supported Donald Trump and his attempt to overturn the results of the 2020 election.
00:08:20.000 And even if you supported that attempt, that doesn't necessarily mean you support a violent overthrow of the United States government.
00:08:24.000 But the idea is that you now support the violent overthrow of the United States government.
00:08:28.000 And also the idea is That the people who invaded the Capitol were engaged in an armed insurrection, which is weird because there were no actual firearms found on the people who invaded the Capitol, which is a very strange way to run an armed insurrection.
00:08:39.000 Again, this is not to downplay the criminality of people who invade the Capitol building and do harm to police officers.
00:08:46.000 It is to point out that if you are going to claim that something is an armed insurrection, typically you require an armed insurrection to call something an armed insurrection.
00:08:51.000 Okay, so what is this really about?
00:08:55.000 For the Democrats, it's pretty obvious.
00:08:57.000 The idea is you have a choice in 2022 between our garbage governance, which has brought you a 40 year high in inflation, a stagnating economy.
00:09:05.000 It has brought you extreme levels of political polarization. 0.94
00:09:09.000 It has brought you a radical social agenda that embraces everything from forcing your kids in school to learn that they might be a member of the opposite sex, to treating America as though it is historically not only racist, but systemically racist today. 0.63
00:09:24.000 You have a choice between that And the evils of Trumpism.
00:09:27.000 That is what Democrats are attempting to do here. 0.99
00:09:30.000 And they want to play on that political polarization in order to get Republicans to side with things they believe the vast majority of Americans don't agree with, right?
00:09:36.000 So the idea here is twofold.
00:09:37.000 One is to say to the middle, either it's those bad guys or it's us.
00:09:43.000 Because all of them are the same.
00:09:44.000 It's either those bad guys or it doesn't matter if they condemn January 6th.
00:09:46.000 It doesn't matter if they don't even agree with Donald Trump's claims from November 4th to January 6th.
00:09:51.000 They are all the same.
00:09:52.000 Side with us or side with them.
00:09:54.000 If you want to morally dissociate from January 6th, you must side with us.
00:09:58.000 And there's a secondary idea, which is the more time we spend talking about January 6th, the more we can wrongfoot Republicans who are afraid of some members of their base into saying things that downplay January 6th, at which point we run against those Republicans.
00:10:10.000 If you think Democrats aren't that sophisticated, you're wrong.
00:10:11.000 I mean, that's not that sophisticated a point.
00:10:13.000 They understand that if they make January 6th top of the news, And the media do their compliant job, which is to ask every Republican their feelings about January 6th.
00:10:22.000 They will eventually stumble on a Republican who will just downplay it or dismiss it in such a way that the American public doesn't like it very much.
00:10:28.000 And then Democrats can run against that.
00:10:30.000 That is the goal here.
00:10:32.000 Now here's the thing.
00:10:33.000 We as Americans don't have to embrace any of this.
00:10:35.000 Because we can hold all of these thoughts in our mind.
00:10:38.000 We can say, for example, that riots are really bad, and violent riots are really bad, and breaking into the Capitol building is really bad and criminal, and people should go to jail for doing these things.
00:10:47.000 We can say that beating police officers is a really bad thing.
00:10:50.000 We can also say that Donald Trump's claims between November 4th and January 6th were untrue.
00:10:54.000 His claims that voter fraud specifically decided the 2020 election, that was not true.
00:11:01.000 Donald Trump's claim that after the certification of state votes by state legislatures, there was still a pathway in the Electoral College to reject votes by the Vice President of the United States.
00:11:11.000 That was untrue.
00:11:12.000 You can say all those things were untrue and you can simultaneously also say that the 2020 election Was rigged in a different way, not rigged as in people were in the back room punching ballots, but rigged in terms of the voting procedures.
00:11:25.000 For example, in Pennsylvania, where there was widespread mail-in balloting in spite of the state constitution requiring that such rules not be made by the state Supreme Court, for example.
00:11:34.000 You can look at the vast changes to voting procedures throughout the country and the lack of voter verification in wide areas and say, listen, I have doubts about this.
00:11:44.000 I don't like this very much.
00:11:45.000 And also, I think this was an attempt to artificially boost the number of people who probably would have voted by getting them all to basically sit at home.
00:11:51.000 Then we have people go over to their house and pick up the ballots.
00:11:53.000 And this makes me uneasy.
00:11:54.000 You can say all that.
00:11:55.000 You can say the media.
00:11:56.000 Spent every waking moment of the 2020 election basically lying.
00:12:01.000 Lying about Black Lives Matter, pretending that that was a peaceful, wonderful movement that had something important to say about the nature of systemic American racism.
00:12:09.000 That riots were not happening on wide scale.
00:12:13.000 That Kamala Harris and Joe Biden were somehow both pro-police and anti-police at the same exact time.
00:12:17.000 That Donald Trump was not, in fact, going to develop a vaccine under Operation Warp Speed before the election.
00:12:22.000 That this was all crazy talk.
00:12:24.000 And the media lied pretty much every day of the 2020 election.
00:12:27.000 And Donald Trump also happened to run an incredibly scattered and not particularly motivated campaign.
00:12:32.000 Which is unfortunate, because I think it was a very winnable election for Donald Trump.
00:12:35.000 So all of those things can be true at once.
00:12:38.000 We can also say, for example, that the January 6th riots were really bad.
00:12:44.000 And also, this is part and parcel of a much broader political polarization in the United States that has led to an uptick in political violence across the board.
00:12:52.000 That it is impossible to talk about January 6th and the climate of American politics without talking about the fact that there was wide-scale rioting and looting, the worst rioting in American history the prior summer, approved of, patted on the head, celebrated by some members of the media and some members of the Democratic Party.
00:13:09.000 You can point out that there's great hypocrisy to a Democratic party claiming that the worst thing in American electoral history was Donald Trump refusing to accept the results of the 2020 election post-November 4th, while simultaneously claiming that Stacey Abrams was the legitimate governor of Georgia after losing that race by 50,000 votes.
00:13:27.000 They literally had her at a Democratic governor's panel at the 2020 Democratic National Convention.
00:13:33.000 They treated her as a great heroine of the Republic for claiming that the election of Georgia had been stolen in her early gubernatorial election, which it was not in 2018.
00:13:45.000 This Democratic Party spent four years aided and abetted by the media, claiming that Donald Trump was not the legitimately elected president of the United States in 2016.
00:13:53.000 Instead, the Russians had rigged the votes. 0.71
00:13:55.000 The Russians had figured out some way to jerry-rig support for Donald Trump. 0.72
00:13:59.000 They'd colluded with Donald Trump.
00:14:01.000 And somehow, the Democrats and the media and the Hillary Clinton campaign and the FBI all put together this bizarre theory that turned out to be a giant nothing burger, but held the attention of the American public for four years.
00:14:12.000 You don't get to undermine all the institutions and then be surprised when someone on the other side also undermines the institutions.
00:14:18.000 So if we're talking about the collapse of American institutions, a symptom of which was January 6th, then we have to look around at why all the institutions and the trust in all of our institutions has been collapsing.
00:14:28.000 And that is not a partisan point.
00:14:30.000 That is a bipartisan point.
00:14:32.000 That doesn't relieve responsibility for Donald Trump's rhetoric between November 4th and January 6th of the false claims that he was making.
00:14:38.000 And it certainly doesn't relieve the responsibility of rioters for rioting.
00:14:42.000 It does suggest that if we're going to have broad-scale conversations about the wrongs and the problems of American politics, we have to have those in a way that actually makes sense.
00:14:52.000 But Democrats are not interested in that, of course, because the idea is the Republicans are threatening democracy, so you have to give us the auspices to threaten democracy, right?
00:15:00.000 Pack the court, have people outside justices' houses protesting.
00:15:04.000 If somebody shows up and threatens to actually kill a justice of the Supreme Court, you bury that on page A20 of the New York Times, which, by the way, is exactly what happened this week.
00:15:11.000 The New York Times buried on page A20 a man showing up at Justice Kavanaugh's house trying to murder him.
00:15:18.000 Do you think that might be a front page story for months at a time, certainly weeks at a time, if the political orientations had been reversed in that particular story?
00:15:28.000 So you can hold all of these thoughts in your head because again, reality is messy.
00:15:32.000 You can think that the January 6th riots were incredibly dangerous and incredibly ugly, but also they were not a threat to the democracy of the United States, the longest standing democracy in the world.
00:15:43.000 And that the United States was on the verge of a violent overthrow by a bunch of droogs who got cleared from the Capitol building within three hours because they had no weapons on them. 1.00
00:15:52.000 And the only person who was actually shot that day was one of the rioters, Ashley Babbitt.
00:15:58.000 That is not what an actual insurrection looks like, by the way.
00:16:00.000 With no military support, no institutional support.
00:16:04.000 If you look at coups in other countries, that is not what a coup looks like. 1.00
00:16:07.000 A coup does not look like a bunch of idiots running into a building and then getting cleared from the building within three hours. 0.99
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00:17:25.000 So here's the thing.
00:17:26.000 This is basically what the polls show.
00:17:29.000 So the American people have, I think, correct and nuanced views about what January 6th was.
00:17:35.000 So for example, there was a poll that came out This is January 3rd, 2022.
00:17:40.000 It was an NPR Ipsos poll conducted about a year after the January 6th incident.
00:17:45.000 And here is what they found.
00:17:47.000 What they found is that 64% of Americans agree that American democracy is in crisis and at risk of failing.
00:17:53.000 70% feel the same about America itself.
00:17:55.000 A majority, regardless of gender, racial, ethnic group, generation, or region of the country feel that America is in crisis and at risk of failing.
00:18:02.000 That's not because of Trump.
00:18:03.000 That includes 79% of Republicans, 68% of Democrats, 67% of Independents.
00:18:09.000 This goes to the institutional health of the United States I was talking about.
00:18:12.000 This is not because of January 6th.
00:18:14.000 January 6th is instead a result of much of the political polarization and institutional breakdown we have seen in our politics over the course of the last decade.
00:18:23.000 By the way, 47% of Republicans strongly agree with the sentiment that our democracy is in crisis at risk of failing.
00:18:28.000 Now, if you thought this was all about January 6th, what you would think is that Democrats believe that, but Democrats don't believe that.
00:18:32.000 Because again, Democrats are in power right now.
00:18:36.000 Americans hold mixed perceptions on the event.
00:18:38.000 According to this poll from January 2022, about a year after the event, around 1 in 3, 32% believe that the January 6th assault on the Capitol building was an attempted coup or insurrection.
00:18:47.000 28% say it was a riot that got out of control.
00:18:51.000 So basically, Americans are evenly split on the media narrative that this was a coup or an insurrection.
00:18:56.000 And about a third say the same thing, that it was a riot that got out of control.
00:18:59.000 Which, by the way, it was a riot that got out of control because the definition of a coup or an insurrection is that it is organized from top down in order to replace one government with another.
00:19:07.000 Democrats keep saying they're going to show a smoking gun that shows collusion and an organization between Trump and the people who are trying to storm the Capitol building.
00:19:15.000 They have so far provided zero evidence of this.
00:19:20.000 Apparently, Around two-thirds of Americans accept the outcome of the 2020 presidential election.
00:19:25.000 Around a third believe there is fraudulent voting in the election.
00:19:27.000 Another fifth say they are unsure, meaning under half of respondents unequivocally state there was no or very little fraudulent voting in the election.
00:19:35.000 Well again, one of the reasons for this is because the media said there was no fraudulent voting in the election.
00:19:39.000 There were 155 million votes cast.
00:19:41.000 I would assume there was some voter fraud in the election, but you can say that there is no evidence that this election was decided by voter fraud.
00:19:49.000 Not in Pennsylvania, where Donald Trump lost by 80,000 votes.
00:19:51.000 Not in Georgia, where he lost by 14,000 votes.
00:19:52.000 Not in Arizona, where he lost by 12,000 votes.
00:19:54.000 Not in Wisconsin, where he lost by 14,000 votes.
00:19:56.000 Not in Michigan, where he lost by over 100,000 votes.
00:19:59.000 Those are big numbers.
00:20:00.000 Very, very big numbers.
00:20:02.000 Big enough numbers to swamp whatever allegations Donald Trump did not make, by the way.
00:20:07.000 And again, go back and listen.
00:20:09.000 If you listen to what I said about January 6th, if you listen to what I said about election 2020, between the election and January 6th, I said Donald Trump should be allowed to pursue every legal path available.
00:20:21.000 I said that Donald Trump should make every allegation that he had in court.
00:20:24.000 He did not even allege voter fraud in nearly all of the suits that he filed all across the country.
00:20:30.000 He established the possibility of voter fraud.
00:20:31.000 That is not enough to establish actual voter fraud.
00:20:34.000 That is one of the problems.
00:20:36.000 So you can be uneasy about the election.
00:20:38.000 You can think that the election was rigged in all the ways that I said before.
00:20:41.000 And you can still understand that the election itself, there was no capacity to quote unquote overturn the election based on what Donald Trump presented, which again was very little, as we'll get to in just a second.
00:20:54.000 As far as what Americans believe about standardizing elections, 49% say standardizing voting rules across states will make American elections more fair compared to 19% who say that it will make elections less fair.
00:21:07.000 Some of the other proposals, 44% of voters believe that every eligible voter should be able to vote by mail.
00:21:15.000 But that's again, that's 44 percent.
00:21:16.000 That's a minority.
00:21:17.000 So what does this mean?
00:21:19.000 It means that the American people are pretty much split on this.
00:21:21.000 Also, the American people have moved on.
00:21:23.000 OK, so there's new polling data also from FiveThirtyEight.com suggesting that the American people are not interested in litigating January 6th as sort of the case, the single case of how American politics works.
00:21:36.000 Because as it turns out, Americans are actually concerned about how governance is happening right now.
00:21:41.000 Americans are very concerned about the economy.
00:21:42.000 They're very concerned about our foreign policy.
00:21:44.000 They disapprove of the way that Joe Biden is handling the country.
00:21:47.000 And so the attempts by the Democrats to recast all of American politics in terms of January 6th are likely to fail.
00:21:54.000 They're likely to fail and they should fail because again, it is a misdirection play.
00:21:58.000 And this is clearly grandstanding from the Democrats because after all, inflation is at 8.6% and things really are looking the wrong way.
00:22:05.000 When you look at those polls, Americans say the direction of the country is bad.
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00:23:15.000 Okay, this finally brings us to the January 6th extravaganza last night.
00:23:20.000 Now, the Democrats really have one shot at this.
00:23:23.000 And they have like a two-hour primetime slot provided to them by all the major news networks simultaneously.
00:23:28.000 And if you looked, literally the only channel that covers news that was not covering this was Fox News, which had Tucker and Hannity on.
00:23:37.000 And the Democrats immediately make a huge blunder.
00:23:40.000 And their blunder is they're going to allow Congress people to grandstand. 1.00
00:23:42.000 This is the stupidest thing. 1.00
00:23:44.000 It is incredibly stupid. 1.00
00:23:45.000 Because here's the thing, if the Democratic agenda is to grandstand, if it is an electoral ploy, you at least don't want to let the American public know that it's an electoral ploy. 1.00
00:23:52.000 And yet they lead off with Bennie Thompson.
00:23:55.000 So here's the thing about Bennie Thompson.
00:23:57.000 Leading off with Bennie Thompson is a really dumb idea because Bennie Thompson happens to be one of the people who voted against certification of the 2016 election.
00:24:06.000 So if you're talking about the danger to the Republic in not voting to certify legitimate elections, this seems like a bad person to lead it off.
00:24:13.000 But not only did Bennie Thompson lead it off, he decided to make claims that he could not sustain.
00:24:18.000 So he leads off by saying that the violence was no accident on January 6th.
00:24:22.000 The implication being, of course, that it was planned top-down.
00:24:24.000 Now, you can say that there was internal planning among some groups, groups of Oath Keepers, groups of Proud Boys.
00:24:29.000 You can say, oh, that's true.
00:24:30.000 Fine.
00:24:30.000 A lot of those people are under criminal indictment for a conspiracy.
00:24:34.000 For insurrection.
00:24:36.000 A lot of those people are actually under criminal indictment.
00:24:37.000 Many of them are in jail right now.
00:24:39.000 But the implication here is that there's going to be evidence that they show that shows a direct connection between the Trump White House and therefore you, the Trump voter, and what happened on January 6th.
00:24:47.000 That's the implication he's going to attempt to draw.
00:24:49.000 And then they provide no evidence to back this up.
00:24:53.000 Any legal jargon you hear about seditious conspiracy, obstruction of an official proceeding, Conspiracy to defraud the United States boils down to this.
00:25:06.000 January 6th was the culmination of an attempted coup.
00:25:11.000 A brazen attempt, as one rioter put it, shortly after January 6th to overthrow the government.
00:25:20.000 The violence was no accident.
00:25:22.000 It represents Senate Trump's last stand, most desperate chance to halt the transfer of power.
00:25:32.000 Okay, again, they're performing a magical conflation.
00:25:34.000 Conflation number one, you're a Trump voter.
00:25:37.000 Therefore, you support everything that Trump said between November 4th and January 6th.
00:25:40.000 Two, even if you support what he said between November 4th and January 6th, which was based on Trump saying things that were not true, this means that you support a riot.
00:25:47.000 Three, if you support people in the Capitol grounds, this means you support the overthrow of democracy.
00:25:51.000 And also, if you vote against Democrats today, you support all those things.
00:25:54.000 That's the conflation Benny Thompson is attempting to draw.
00:25:55.000 By the way, he objected to the 2004 vote certification.
00:25:58.000 It was Jamie Raskin, who is also on this committee, who attempted to overturn the 2016 election by objecting to the certification of Florida's votes.
00:26:08.000 But he didn't stop there, Benny Thompson.
00:26:09.000 Again, if you're grandstanding, you got to grandstand.
00:26:11.000 This is all the lead up. 1.00
00:26:12.000 This is so stupid because everybody who's in the middle and watching this turns off the TV. 1.00
00:26:18.000 You get nine minutes of these guys jabbering at the camera about how this is like the Ku Klux Klan and lynching. 1.00
00:26:24.000 And people are like, really?
00:26:26.000 I mean, the first rule is you start with a stinger, right?
00:26:26.000 Why didn't you lead?
00:26:29.000 Why wouldn't you at least start with the videos that you end up showing here?
00:26:32.000 Here's Benny Thompson.
00:26:35.000 I'm Benny Thompson, chairman of the January 6, 2021 committee.
00:26:41.000 I was born, raised, and still live in Bolton, Mississippi, a town with a population of 521, which is midway between Jackson and Vicksburg, Mississippi, and the Mississippi River.
00:26:57.000 I'm from a part of the country where people justify the actions of slavery, the Ku Klux Klan, and lynching.
00:27:06.000 I'm reminded of that dark history as I hear voices today try and justify the actions of the insurrectionists on January 6th, 2021. 0.98
00:27:16.000 This is such dumb politics. 1.00
00:27:20.000 It's so stupid. 1.00
00:27:21.000 If you're going to lead with the supposed revelation of new evidence, lead with the supposed revelation of new evidence. 1.00
00:27:27.000 Don't lead with a heavily partisan Democrat jabbering at you about how January 6th was akin to lynching black people in the South.
00:27:35.000 Because January 6th was really bad.
00:27:37.000 You know what was worse? 1.00
00:27:38.000 Actually murdering black people in the South by hanging them from trees. 1.00
00:27:42.000 I can't believe that I have to say this out loud. 1.00
00:27:44.000 Like that's, this is insane. 0.94
00:27:47.000 It's a ridiculous way to leave this off.
00:27:48.000 Okay, the person who actually led the effort to try and drive the narrative here was Liz Cheney. 0.98
00:27:53.000 And the reason that the Democrats use Liz Cheney here, of course, is because she is a Republican. 0.89
00:27:58.000 And I will say that it is quite amusing to see the strange new respect earned by the Cheney family.
00:28:03.000 As Liz Cheney becomes sort of a useful pawn in the Democratic agenda. 1.00
00:28:07.000 And I'm not doubting Liz Cheney's motivations here.
00:28:09.000 I'm not suggesting that Liz Cheney is somehow out for her own interests because she's probably going to lose in her congressional race right now in Wyoming. 0.60
00:28:18.000 Hey, well, what I am suggesting is that Liz Cheney is overdrawing conclusions because that strange new respect goes to one's head. 1.00
00:28:25.000 So Liz Cheney begins by laying out what she calls Trump's seven-part plan to take over the country in the aftermath of the 2020 election. 0.96
00:28:33.000 Now again, she's going to have to explain which part of this plan actually involved sending rioters into the Capitol building to run around like idiots wearing buffalo horns and then get rousted from the Capitol within three hours. 0.97
00:28:44.000 Because that's the thing we're supposedly talking about here, right? 0.99
00:28:46.000 We're not talking about Donald Trump promulgating untruths between November 4th and January 6th.
00:28:52.000 That's not what this investigation is about.
00:28:55.000 There's a big dot over here.
00:28:56.000 Trump wanted to overturn 2020 election.
00:28:58.000 And then a bunch of legal mechanisms, and he filed a bunch of lawsuits, and he had this bizarre theory about how Mike Pence was going to throw out certified votes and all this crap.
00:29:04.000 Okay, that's dot number one.
00:29:06.000 And then over here, you have an actual full-scale riot in the Capitol building with people getting hurt.
00:29:11.000 And you have to connect those dots because this hearing is about this dot.
00:29:14.000 It is not about this dot.
00:29:16.000 And so she suggests those dots are going to be connected, but then she actually never connects the dots.
00:29:20.000 So here is Liz Cheney.
00:29:22.000 On the morning of January 6th, President Donald Trump's intention was to remain President of the United States despite the lawful outcome of the 2020 election and in violation of his constitutional obligation to relinquish power.
00:29:41.000 Over multiple months, Donald Trump oversaw and coordinated a sophisticated seven-part plan to overturn the presidential election and prevent the transfer of presidential power.
00:29:53.000 In our hearings, you will see evidence of each element of this plan.
00:29:59.000 Man, probably should impeach that guy and maybe he shouldn't be president anymore.
00:30:04.000 Oh wait, you did that twice.
00:30:07.000 There was an impeachment of Donald Trump after January 6th.
00:30:11.000 It took place in the House.
00:30:12.000 The impeachment did not actually allege criminal activity by Donald Trump and it was rooted in January 6th based on incitement, which was not legally met.
00:30:21.000 And also, Donald Trump isn't president.
00:30:24.000 He hasn't been president since January 20th of 2021.
00:30:28.000 So what exactly does this have to do with the riots, per se?
00:30:34.000 And she says that Donald Trump and the White House received reports that elements were preparing for violence.
00:30:39.000 Okay, and presumably so did Speaker Pelosi, who didn't request preemptive security from the Capitol Police.
00:30:47.000 I mean, it seems like everyone was taken unawares.
00:30:49.000 Again, none of this is to alleviate responsibility for Trump between, what, 2.26 p.m.
00:30:53.000 and 5 o'clock p.m.
00:30:54.000 There's like a two-and-a-half-hour period where people were breaking into the Capitol building, and it's unclear exactly what Trump was doing before he sent that little video message telling people to go home, etc.
00:31:02.000 But here is Liz Cheney suggesting active coordination.
00:31:05.000 Again, you have to actually show evidence of active coordination if you're going to claim active coordination.
00:31:10.000 Although certain former Trump officials have argued that they did not anticipate violence on January 6th, the evidence suggests otherwise.
00:31:19.000 As you will see in our hearings, the White House was receiving specific reports in the days leading up to January 6th, including during President Trump's Ellipse rally, indicating that elements in the crowd were preparing for violence at the Capitol.
00:31:37.000 Okay, now, you can be given that information, that there are elements of the crowd preparing for violence at the Capitol.
00:31:44.000 That does not mean that you then told them, go ahead and attack the Capitol building.
00:31:48.000 This is again, the dot they refuse to draw.
00:31:50.000 And again, you don't have to alleviate responsibility on Trump for not doing enough while the riots were going on.
00:31:57.000 And also, you know, I don't, what's the referendum here?
00:32:01.000 That Trump acted badly that day?
00:32:03.000 And that he said ugly things that day?
00:32:05.000 Well, color me shocked.
00:32:07.000 So Liz Cheney said that Trump said that Pence deserved to be hanged, right? 0.97
00:32:11.000 When people were chanting, hang Mike Pence, that Trump had said offhandedly to somebody, Trump deserved to be hanged. 0.96
00:32:16.000 That's really bad. 0.99
00:32:16.000 And that's really, really ugly, obviously. 0.99
00:32:19.000 Also, Trump then allowed Mike Pence to activate the National Guard.
00:32:25.000 So here's Liz Cheney. 0.65
00:32:27.000 You will hear that President Trump was yelling and, quote, really angry at advisers who told him he needed to be doing something more.
00:32:37.000 And aware of the rioters' chance to hang Mike Pence, the President responded with this sentiment, quote, maybe our supporters have the right idea.
00:32:48.000 Mike Pence, quote, deserves it.
00:32:53.000 Okay, now, when Liz Cheney says this sort of stuff, listen, it's a shocking thing for the President of the United States to say. 0.90
00:32:59.000 Also, is anyone shocked?
00:33:01.000 Like, if you're going to provide new information, it actually should be, presumably, new information.
00:33:06.000 Now Cheney is essentially making the case that Trump refused to call off the rioters.
00:33:09.000 He didn't do enough to call off the rioters.
00:33:10.000 Again, that was known like day of.
00:33:12.000 We all remember this.
00:33:12.000 Here's the thing about these hearings.
00:33:13.000 If you're going to have a hearing, it's got to be about something we didn't know.
00:33:16.000 It can't be about stuff that we knew because we were watching it in real time on that day.
00:33:20.000 And you got every element of what Trump was thinking that day and in like the next two days that followed.
00:33:26.000 I believe one of the charges in the impeachment was something about how Trump had basically been derelict in not activating the Capitol Police and not activating the National Guard in time.
00:33:37.000 So what is the case that she is making here?
00:33:39.000 Is the case that Donald Trump actively organized with these people, that he was derelict in not calling people off, that he was derelict in not activating the National Guard in time?
00:33:50.000 Fairly well established except for the first point, which is the whole idea that this was an insurrection organized by not just Donald Trump, the entire Republican Party in coordination, the same Republican Party that's out there trying to rig elections today, vote Democrat.
00:34:02.000 That's the part they never quite established.
00:34:05.000 So here's Liz Cheney saying that Trump refused to do anything to call off the rioters.
00:34:08.000 And again, this is not shocking to me because this was pretty clear at the time.
00:34:14.000 You will hear testimony that, quote, the president did not really want to put anything out, calling off the riot or asking his supporters to leave.
00:34:24.000 You will hear evidence that President Trump refused for hours to do what his staff, his family, and many of his other advisors begged him to do, immediately instruct his supporters to stand down and evacuate the Capitol.
00:34:40.000 Now, again, what are they trying to establish here?
00:34:43.000 What is the goal here?
00:34:44.000 The goal is to suggest an ongoing threat to American democracy, not that Donald Trump acted badly.
00:34:48.000 By the way, again, Mike Pence, the vice president of the United States, did contact General Mark Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and told him to activate the National Guard.
00:34:56.000 That is a thing that did happen, and the Capitol building was cleared.
00:35:00.000 So, what exactly is the attempt to establish here?
00:35:04.000 The attempt is electoral in nature.
00:35:05.000 All of these things can be true at the same time.
00:35:07.000 People acted in ugly fashion, in bad fashion, in criminal fashion.
00:35:11.000 Donald Trump acted very badly that day.
00:35:13.000 He said things that were untrue between November 4th and January 6th.
00:35:16.000 He had a duty to activate the National Guard ASAP as soon as people were going into the Capitol building.
00:35:21.000 He apparently did not fulfill that duty, which we knew based on the simple timeline.
00:35:26.000 All of that stuff can simultaneously be true.
00:35:27.000 And also, inflation stats this morning, 8.6%, the highest since 1981.
00:35:36.000 So where do you think Americans are going to put their focus?
00:35:37.000 On a thing that we knew a year ago, and that was really ugly, and that Donald Trump is no longer president, and was impeached over?
00:35:43.000 Or, the fact that their wages went down over the course of the last year 3.4%.
00:35:48.000 Which one do you think is going to play more with the American public?
00:35:51.000 You'll get to more from the Democratic propaganda hearing yesterday.
00:35:55.000 And again, all of this stuff can be true.
00:35:57.000 It can be emotionally affecting.
00:35:58.000 It can also be an attempt to weaponize politics for propaganda purposes.
00:36:02.000 All of that can be true at the same time.
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00:38:23.000 Okay, so the January 6th committee, they begin with a bunch of lectures about how American democracy is totally in danger.
00:38:33.000 So basically vote for the Democrats.
00:38:35.000 And then, they move on to Donald Trump is a big bad orange man who's bad and orange and bad.
00:38:40.000 And then they move on from that to, you know, there are a bunch of people in Trump's orbit who are telling him that the election fraud narrative was not true.
00:38:47.000 Again, where is the meat, guys?
00:38:49.000 Like, at some point you have to show the meat.
00:38:50.000 If the January 6th hearing is about how the Republican Party in total was complicit, not just complicit, but involved in the January 6th attack on the Capitol building, you're going to have to show the meat.
00:39:00.000 Now, Bennie Thompson told Jake Tapper last night that there were going to be witnesses describing actual conversations between the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers and people in Trump's orbit.
00:39:10.000 Suffice it to say, if they had that evidence, why did they not show that?
00:39:13.000 That would be, like, the lead.
00:39:14.000 If you had a conversation between, say, Mark Meadows and the head of the Oath Keepers, saying, yeah, tomorrow we're going into the Capitol.
00:39:21.000 Mark Meadows would be like, yeah, that's great, let's overturn them out.
00:39:23.000 Like, wouldn't that be the lead?
00:39:25.000 As opposed to, say, Liz Cheney talking through a bunch of allegations that we already know about and could see plainly from the timeline.
00:39:31.000 Or, like, the stuff that they tried to play as revelations last night are not revelations.
00:39:35.000 Like, they played a clip, for example, of Bill Barr saying that the election fraud claims were nonsense.
00:39:39.000 He says that in his memoir.
00:39:41.000 He told that to me on the Sunday special.
00:39:42.000 This has been a long time.
00:39:44.000 I mean, Bill Barr said this openly at the time.
00:39:46.000 I'm like, is this a revelation? 0.98
00:39:48.000 I made it clear I did not agree with the idea of saying the election was stolen and putting out this stuff, which I told the president was bullshit. 0.91
00:39:57.000 And, you know, I didn't want to be a part of it. 0.86
00:40:01.000 And that's one of the reasons that went into me deciding to leave when I did.
00:40:05.000 I Observed, I think it was on December 1st, that you can't live in a world where the incumbent administration stays in power based on its view, unsupported by specific evidence, that there was fraud in the election.
00:40:25.000 Was this supposed to be a revelation?
00:40:26.000 Where's the revelations, guys?
00:40:28.000 I'm waiting for revelations.
00:40:30.000 Another one of the revelations is that apparently Ivanka Trump said that she agreed with Bill Barr.
00:40:30.000 What's another revelation?
00:40:35.000 Is it supposed to make Ivanka Trump look bad? 0.99
00:40:38.000 So she says a true thing.
00:40:41.000 And there's always this idea in the media and in the Democratic Party that there was a power behind the throne when it came to Trump.
00:40:47.000 It was like Ivanka and Jared manipulating Trump from behind.
00:40:50.000 Trump is not manipulable in the circumstance in which he just disagrees with people around him.
00:40:55.000 This is very obvious from every element of his life.
00:40:59.000 So Ivanka says that, but was Ivanka like out there saying that the election was stolen?
00:41:03.000 Did I miss the part where she said that?
00:41:05.000 Because that, as far as I'm aware, did not happen between November 4th and January 6th.
00:41:09.000 So when Ivanka testifies to this, again, where's the meat? 0.71
00:41:14.000 How did that affect your perspective about the election when Attorney General Barr made that statement?
00:41:19.000 It affected my perspective.
00:41:21.000 I respect Attorney General Barr.
00:41:25.000 So I Accepted what he was saying.
00:41:31.000 Okay, and this was played up on Twitter, by the way, it's like this is a big revel- why?
00:41:36.000 You mean people around Donald Trump knew that what he was saying about the election, that that wasn't true?
00:41:41.000 Yeah, that's why he ended up with Sidney Powell as his lawyer talking about releasing the Kraken and Rudy Giuliani in front of Four Seasons Gardening and Lawnmowers.
00:41:50.000 Like, don't you remember any?
00:41:50.000 Like, we were all there for this, guys.
00:41:52.000 So where's the revelation?
00:41:53.000 Okay, other revelations.
00:41:55.000 Jared Kushner, apparently, Pat Cipollone, came to him.
00:41:57.000 He was the White House counsel.
00:41:58.000 He came to him and he said, I don't like what's going on with this January 20th stuff and Donald Trump talking about the election, and maybe I'll quit.
00:42:06.000 And Kushner said, you know, honestly, I didn't think he was going to quit.
00:42:09.000 I thought he was kind of whining.
00:42:10.000 And this is apparently a big revelation.
00:42:13.000 Jared, are you aware of instances where Pat Cipollone threatened to resign?
00:42:20.000 I kind of, like I said, my interest at that time was on trying to get as many pardons done.
00:42:26.000 And I know that, you know, he was always, him and the team were always saying, oh, we're going to resign.
00:42:31.000 We're not going to be here if this happens, if that happens.
00:42:33.000 So I kind of took it up to just be whining, to be honest with you.
00:42:39.000 Okay, well, I mean, why would he take it that Pat Cipollone was just kind of whining and wouldn't actually resign?
00:42:42.000 Maybe because he didn't resign!
00:42:44.000 Pat Cipollone left office on January 20th, 2021.
00:42:48.000 He did not actually resign.
00:42:49.000 There's a lot of talk about, maybe he would resign?
00:42:53.000 Did he resign?
00:42:55.000 No!
00:42:56.000 In fact...
00:42:57.000 I mean, he actually represented Donald Trump in his original impeachment hearing.
00:43:02.000 Like, this is a big revelation though.
00:43:06.000 Wow, he said that he thought Cipollone was whining because he was always threatening to resign.
00:43:10.000 Maybe because apparently Cipollone was always threatening to resign and never did.
00:43:13.000 Like, Bill Barr actually resigned.
00:43:15.000 Cipollone never did.
00:43:17.000 So, okay, no meat there.
00:43:18.000 Okay, and then we get down to what this is really about, which is the emotional images of the day.
00:43:23.000 And they were hideous.
00:43:24.000 They were ugly. 0.91
00:43:25.000 Is there anyone in America who believes that this was good stuff?
00:43:27.000 That this was like a wonderful thing?
00:43:29.000 That the violence didn't happen?
00:43:31.000 That everybody there was just there because they were having a good old picnic?
00:43:34.000 Inside the Capitol building?
00:43:36.000 Some people were there because they wandered in like dolts because there were actual police officers opening the doors.
00:43:39.000 That did happen.
00:43:40.000 There's video of that.
00:43:41.000 But the people were like smashing windows and beating the hell out of police officers.
00:43:44.000 Like all that happened.
00:43:45.000 So when you have Capitol police officers testifying about violence, this is the part where not like I'm there for it.
00:43:52.000 But I got to say, I wish that there was some consistency in the level of defense of the police from the Democrats that you get when it comes to January 6th.
00:43:58.000 Apparently, the only good police officers on planet Earth were the ones serving at the Capitol building January 6th.
00:44:04.000 Everybody who hits a police officer, including people on January 6th, should be put in jail, obviously.
00:44:09.000 They should be put in prison.
00:44:11.000 They've committed a crime.
00:44:13.000 But I feel that way also about cops in LA and cops in New York and cops in Chicago.
00:44:16.000 I feel that way about cops in Waukesha.
00:44:19.000 I feel that way about cops all over the country.
00:44:21.000 The Democratic Party, meanwhile, is like, well, you know, maybe we should just jailbreak everybody, except these are the hero cops.
00:44:26.000 These are the only hero cops. 0.98
00:44:29.000 The hypocrisy of Democrats when it comes to their support for the police is really quite disgusting. 0.98
00:44:32.000 It really is. 0.91
00:44:34.000 I'm all there for the support for the cops on January 6th.
00:44:37.000 I'm also all there for support for the cops all over the country.
00:44:40.000 Democrats are not.
00:44:41.000 So the crocodile tears about this just ring a little hollow.
00:44:45.000 This particular woman is a hero because she talks about the violence that she underwent.
00:44:49.000 She's a hero.
00:44:49.000 The Democrats, who are focused in on one specific act of violence, at the expense of a bunch of other acts of violence, they're not heroes.
00:44:56.000 They're political narcissists.
00:44:58.000 Here's the police officer talking about what happened, and it was ugly, and it was hideous, and people who deny this are incorrect.
00:45:04.000 I couldn't believe my eyes.
00:45:05.000 There were officers on the ground.
00:45:12.000 They were bleeding.
00:45:13.000 They were throwing up.
00:45:15.000 I saw friends with blood all over their faces.
00:45:20.000 I was slipping in people's blood.
00:45:22.000 blood. You know, I was catching people as they fell. You know, I was, it was carnage.
00:45:37.000 It was chaos.
00:45:40.000 All of that is true.
00:45:41.000 It is also true that the Democratic agenda here is to tie everybody who is at the protest to everybody who's at the riot and all Republican voters to the protesters, to the rioters, which is why they presented a documentarian named Nick Quested, who said a statement that honestly is unsupportable.
00:45:55.000 So he said that he was following the Proud Boys and that the Proud Boys turned from protesters into rioters, into insurrectionists.
00:46:02.000 That is incorrect.
00:46:03.000 These are mutually exclusive claims.
00:46:05.000 You either have to claim that the Proud Boys organized this beforehand, in which case they were involved In their rioting and insurrection, supposed insurrection attempt.
00:46:13.000 Like, on, like beforehand.
00:46:16.000 But if you make the case that the protesters turned into, rioters turned into insurrectionists, again, this is the attempted conflation.
00:46:22.000 Because there were hundreds of thousands of people who arrived on January 6th.
00:46:25.000 And there were a few hundred people who went into the actual Capitol building.
00:46:31.000 This statement from Nick Quested is incorrect.
00:46:34.000 It's just wrong.
00:46:36.000 We arrived at the mall and observed a large contingent of proud boys marching towards the Capitol.
00:46:43.000 We filmed them, and almost immediately I was separated from my colleagues.
00:46:48.000 I documented the crowd turn from protesters to rioters to insurrectionists.
00:46:54.000 I was surprised at the size of the group, the anger and the profanity.
00:46:59.000 And for anyone who didn't understand how violent that event was, I saw it, I documented it, and I experienced it.
00:47:09.000 And nobody is suggesting that that was not violent once it got to the riot, but when he says, I saw them turn from protesters to rioters into insurrectionists, which group is he talking about?
00:47:17.000 The hundreds of thousands of people who showed up?
00:47:19.000 Or the couple thousand who walked down to the Capitol?
00:47:21.000 Or the few hundred who actually went into the Capitol?
00:47:23.000 Or the sub-segment of that who actually attempted to do violence to people?
00:47:29.000 Again, the conflation is the point.
00:47:31.000 Now, there's one big dot that just never got connected during this primetime special, and that's the only dot that matters.
00:47:36.000 And that is, was there active coordination between Team Trump and the people who are attempting to violently stop the certification of the election?
00:47:46.000 Was that a coordinated attempt?
00:47:48.000 They have no evidence that this is the case.
00:47:49.000 So instead, what they did is they presented a video of one of the rioters reading a Trump tweet in the middle of the riot.
00:47:55.000 That ain't gonna do it, gang.
00:47:57.000 It ain't.
00:47:57.000 It's bad.
00:47:58.000 The Trump tweet was really bad.
00:48:01.000 That does not mean it was active coordination between Donald Trump and the rioters.
00:48:04.000 It means what we already knew, which is that Donald Trump was sitting there and not doing what he was supposed to do during the riots, which is bad enough.
00:48:11.000 But that's not the claim Democrats are making here.
00:48:13.000 They're making the claim this is an organized collusion effort between the Republican Party and Donald Trump to overturn the election with the help of a bunch of proud boys who stormed the Capitol building in an attempt to violently overthrow the government.
00:48:22.000 That is the actual case they're making.
00:48:23.000 They didn't prove that.
00:48:24.000 They didn't even try to prove that.
00:48:27.000 Here's the video.
00:48:28.000 This was like their supposed smoking gun.
00:48:31.000 Bad people read a bad tweet and then went and did bad things.
00:48:35.000 Which, I'm sorry, describes nearly all of our politics for the last several years.
00:48:40.000 We didn't have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our country and our Constitution, giving states a chance to certify a corrected set of facts, not the fraudulent or inaccurate ones which they were asked to previously certify.
00:48:56.000 The U.S.
00:48:56.000 demands the truth.
00:48:58.000 Bring out Pence!
00:48:59.000 Bring out Pence! 0.99
00:49:05.000 Okay, and then people start chanting, hang Mike Pence. 0.94
00:49:07.000 Yes, all of this is bad. 0.97
00:49:08.000 All of this is ugly.
00:49:09.000 Does all of this prove the giant conflation case vote Democrat in 2022?
00:49:13.000 Is that what this proves?
00:49:16.000 Or not?
00:49:16.000 Okay, so the Democrats, of course, are trying to play this to the hilt.
00:49:22.000 I'm not doubting that the Democrats were fearful that day because I've been in situations where there are riots directly outside of where I'm speaking.
00:49:29.000 I get it.
00:49:30.000 But, you know, trotting out AOC to try and gin up the emotional response of the American public I think is likely to be unsuccessful.
00:49:37.000 So AOC last night, she took of course to her Instagram, which is where she disseminates all of her information, and she talked emotionally about January 6th.
00:49:47.000 People think that just because this man was on reality TV, that this wasn't real.
00:49:54.000 That this is entertainment.
00:49:57.000 This is not entertainment.
00:49:59.000 It's real F-ing life.
00:50:03.000 There's so much frustration and failures in the present moment, but we have to keep the focus on the bigger picture, which is that legally, structurally, institutionally, very little has changed.
00:50:20.000 Virtually nothing has changed.
00:50:23.000 That behavior?
00:50:25.000 Ted Cruz voted to protect it.
00:50:28.000 Republicans in the United States Senate voted to protect it.
00:50:31.000 Not only did they vote to protect it, they encouraged it.
00:50:34.000 Encouraged it!
00:50:35.000 They voted to protect what?
00:50:36.000 The riots?
00:50:37.000 They voted to protect the riots?
00:50:39.000 What vote is she saying here?
00:50:41.000 By the way, the Democratic Party keep claiming that they actually have evidence of collusion between Republican members of Congress and the rioters.
00:50:47.000 At some point, can we see that?
00:50:48.000 If you're going to make these claims, shouldn't you back that up when she says this is real life?
00:50:51.000 Yes, the riots were real life.
00:50:52.000 But you know what is entertainment?
00:50:54.000 You know what isn't real life?
00:50:55.000 The manipulation of all of that a year and a half later for political gain.
00:50:58.000 That does not look like real life to me.
00:51:00.000 That looks like political manipulation.
00:51:02.000 So the GOP responds as you would expect them to respond.
00:51:04.000 Kevin McCarthy yesterday, he says, the reason Democrats are talking about this is because they have no agenda on inflation or crime or anything else that's happening in the country.
00:51:11.000 I mean, again, all these things can be simultaneously true.
00:51:14.000 January 6th, really bad.
00:51:15.000 Donald Trump acted horribly that day and in the lead up.
00:51:19.000 Also, he is 100% correct.
00:51:20.000 Of course Democrats are bringing this up 18 months after the fact with no serious new evidence of really anything.
00:51:27.000 in order to try and distract. The New York Times reported it. This isn't hiding the ball.
00:51:30.000 Again, the inflation stats as of this morning for the last month were 8.6%. That is the highest rate in 40 years. We were told last month we had peaked. We did not peak. So you're wondering why Kevin McCarthy's saying this? He's saying this because this is also true. Many things can be true at once, folks. Many things. Here's Kevin McCarthy.
00:51:49.000 I don't see any prime time hearings set for gas price, for battling inflation, for feeding our children, for making the streets safer.
00:52:02.000 Okay, that happens to be true.
00:52:05.000 By the way, I want to know what the top issues facing the country are according to polls from Quinnipiac, June 3rd to 6th.
00:52:12.000 Inflation is number one at 34%.
00:52:14.000 Gun violence is number two because of what just happened in Uvalde, Texas.
00:52:18.000 Immigration is at 7%.
00:52:20.000 Election laws are at 6%.
00:52:21.000 6%.
00:52:21.000 So, yeah.
00:52:26.000 And when the Republicans say this is an entirely partisan production, that also happens to be true.
00:52:30.000 Now, again, the Republicans theoretically could have cooperated with this and then maybe asked some questions, but it makes it a lot more difficult to do that when Nancy Pelosi nixes the people who are on the committee in the first place. 0.75
00:52:41.000 232 years of congressional history.
00:52:43.000 We've never had a committee like this one that is entirely and completely partisan.
00:52:48.000 And that's why the American people have already dismissed it.
00:52:50.000 They're tuning out.
00:52:51.000 They're going to flip the channel tonight on primetime TV to channels that aren't showing it because they don't trust it to begin with.
00:52:58.000 It's all theater.
00:52:59.000 It's a circus.
00:53:00.000 It's a political witch hunt.
00:53:01.000 And they know it because only one side is represented.
00:53:04.000 That's not the way that our process, the institution of the Congress is supposed to work.
00:53:09.000 It's shameful.
00:53:12.000 Okay, and again, it's not just that.
00:53:14.000 It's also because this is not what is of concern.
00:53:16.000 It is very obvious at this point that the American people are not thinking of January 6th, 2021 as the be-all and end-all of American politics, or the flashpoint that is most indicative of where we are circa June 10th, 2022.
00:53:28.000 And the American public shouldn't be thinking of it that way, because that is not where we are politically, June 10th, 2022.
00:53:34.000 The Democrats run all three branches of elected government in this United States, and things are falling into garbage.
00:53:40.000 And by the way, again, The Democrats claiming that all the institutions of democracy are under threat solely because of one side is really off-putting, particularly, again, I'm not going to mention again, because the media won't. 0.53
00:53:51.000 This week, a man tried to kill a justice of the Supreme Court after a leak, presumably from a left-wing law clerk at the Supreme Court, of a draft Supreme Court decision on Roe versus Wade.
00:54:02.000 This draft decision was treated by the Democrats as an actual threat to democracy.
00:54:07.000 They encouraged people to protest at justices' homes.
00:54:09.000 They put out Very incendiary tweets, they said very incendiary things, and someone tried to kill a justice, and this was buried on page A20 of the New York Times.
00:54:18.000 No, I don't think that you guys have credibility on these particular issues.
00:54:21.000 At all.
00:54:22.000 In any way.
00:54:23.000 Things are bad.
00:54:24.000 Things are bad because no one has credibility on these issues because no one has any level of consistency.
00:54:28.000 But this is particularly true for a media and democratic party that are attempting to spin it that they are the great protectors of democracy.
00:54:34.000 I don't believe you.
00:54:35.000 Speaking of people I don't believe, by the way, Janet Yellen suggested yesterday, there's nothing to suggest the United States will have a recession.
00:54:43.000 She suggested five minutes ago that inflation was transitory, so I don't believe her either.
00:54:49.000 We have a very strong economy.
00:54:51.000 I know people are very upset, and rightly so, about inflation.
00:54:55.000 But there's nothing to suggest that inflation, that a recession's in the works.
00:55:02.000 And as the Fed tightens monetary policy to contain demand and bring inflation down, I believe there is a path through this that entails a soft landing, with the economy essentially stabilizing.
00:55:19.000 Straight from Hobbiton, she's explaining that she's going to save the economy after helping to wreck the economy in a circumstance where the economy should not be wrecked.
00:55:27.000 They put the strongest economy in American history into an artificial coma because of COVID, and then they ended the artificial coma, and then the economy proceeded to have a full-on heart attack.
00:55:38.000 And that is because of these particular human beings.
00:55:41.000 By the way, new headline from CNBC.
00:55:44.000 The recession will hit in the first half of 2023, and the Dow is headed lower.
00:55:47.000 CNBC CFO survey.
00:55:50.000 Apparently they surveyed a bunch of CFOs at major corporations.
00:55:52.000 Over 40% of chief financial officers cite inflation as the number one external risk to their businesses.
00:55:57.000 And going deeper into the results from the Q2 survey, the links between geopolitics and food and energy prices and inflation are clear from the C-suite ranking of the external factors that are weighing on their current outlook.
00:56:06.000 Almost one quarter of CFOs cite Federal Reserve policy as the biggest risk factor.
00:56:10.000 And as the Biden administration struggled for ways to increase oil supply and Russian ships sail with seized Ukrainian wheat amid concerns about a severe global food insecurity crisis, additional CFOs cite supply chain disruptions, the Russia-Ukraine war specifically, as their number one business risk.
00:56:24.000 CFOs are not uniformly of the view the Fed won't ultimately be able to control inflation.
00:56:29.000 Only 54 percent, however, express confidence in the central bank.
00:56:33.000 According to a majority, 68% of CFOs, a recession will occur during the first half of 2023.
00:56:38.000 So things are going just beautifully.
00:56:41.000 I can't imagine why the Democrats are trying to talk endlessly about January 6th.
00:56:46.000 Maybe it's because they don't want you to talk about June 10th.
00:56:49.000 June 10th happens to be today.
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