In the aftermath of a leaked Supreme Court majority decision striking down Roe v. Wade, the left goes absolutely berserk. Ben Shapiro explains why the Supreme Court should just release the decision, and then we can all move on from it. Plus, a new Supreme Court draft opinion from Justice Samuel Alito that could be the basis for overturning Roe v Wade, and why it's time to end abortion in all but the states that recognize the right to life right to abortion. The Ben Shapiro Show is sponsored by ExpressiveVPN. If you haven't gotten a VPN yet, get ExpressVPN right now at ExpressVPN.org/TheBenShapiroShow and use promo code SHAPIRO to get 50% off your first month. That's $50 and you'll save over $800 a year in savings! You'll still save a fortune! Shaving is the best decision you will make about your finances this year. You can keep your number, keep your phone, or get great deals on a new phone like a Samsung Galaxy 5G for less than $2 a month. Go save money today on that cell phone bill and get the same coverage as one of the big guys for $30 a month, or choose unlimited data for half the cost of one big guy! That's saving you $150 a month! Head on over to PeerTalk.com/SHAPIRO and get $50 off your First Month with discount code SHARPTALKER. It's the best deal you can get in the world! SHIPPY! You won't want to miss out on that's best deal? you can save $50! by becoming a member of the SHARPOTTER! you'll get $10 a month and get 20% off the first month, plus an additional $20 off your FIRST MONTH of P&P membership when you upgrade to P&T! FREE PRICING AND PODCASTING AND PATREON CHECK OUT PODCARDIAL PROMO CODE SHIPPING AND VIP SUPPORTING THE SHOW! Get a FREE FAST AND VIP PACKAGE HERE. Shrink it starts at $99 a year, and get 10% OFF your first MONTH GET $25 PRICEDUCATION AND A MONTH WITH VIP PROMOTION AND VIP PRODUCER SUPPORTED INCLUSION AND SUPPORT VIP SUPPORT FREE AND FREE MONEY SUPPORTED!
00:01:27.000All righty, so John Roberts, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, has now acknowledged that the leaked Supreme Court draft majority opinion decision by Justice Alito striking down Roe v. Wade is indeed legitimate.
00:01:37.000He says, however, that because it is a first draft, it is not a final draft.
00:01:41.000It's not clear which way the court is going to go or if this decision is going to look exactly like the decision that comes out from the court.
00:01:47.000According to The Wall Street Journal, a leaked Supreme Court draft opinion written by Justice Samuel Alito and published late Monday by Politico indicated the court may be preparing to overturn Roe v. Wade.
00:01:56.000Chief Justice John Roberts confirmed in a statement that the draft written by Justice Samuel Alito was authentic.
00:02:00.000He said it was not necessarily the final resolution of the case.
00:02:03.000He said this was a singular and egregious breach of trust.
00:02:07.000It is a singular and egregious breach of trust.
00:02:10.000He would know about that considering that he wrote the Obamacare decision.
00:02:12.000Justice Roberts condemned the leak, said he had directed the court's marshal to investigate the matter.
00:02:16.000So we've now reached the timeline where the marshal of the Supreme Court actually may arrest somebody, which is pretty amazing.
00:02:21.000The 67-page opinion declared Roe was egregiously wrong and deeply damaging.
00:02:26.000The court is expected to actually issue the opinion by the end of June or early July, but the truth is, at this point, the court should just release it.
00:02:31.000The court should just move forward and release this opinion, and then we can be done, because otherwise, this is just going to simmer for nigh on two months.
00:02:38.000And there's no purpose to that at all.
00:02:40.000In the meantime, states are moving in various directions on abortion.
00:02:44.000So you have more conservative-leaning states already moving to enshrine the right to life, and you are seeing liberal-leaning states enshrining the right to abortion, all the way, basically, up until you are about, I don't know, 67 years old or so.
00:02:55.000According to the Wall Street Journal, state political leaders across the country proposed new laws and staked out positions as a leak of a draft opinion indicated the Supreme Court could soon overturn Roe v. Wade, which would make the legality of abortions a state issue.
00:03:07.000South Dakota Governor Kristi Noemer, a Republican, tweeted Tuesday she would immediately call for a special session if Roe is overturned to save lives and guarantee that every unborn child has a right to life in South Dakota and Alabama.
00:03:16.000A legislative leader promised quick action to quickly end abortion within our borders.
00:03:19.000Meanwhile, in New York and California, Democratic lawmakers say they would push to amend their state constitution to cement existing laws that protect abortion rights.
00:03:26.000Completely unnecessary in California and New York, considering how left-leaning the state is.
00:03:31.000You don't need an actual constitutional amendment to protect the killing of the unborn, but they will do so anyway.
00:03:36.000Legislative leaders in California are aiming to put an amendment on the ballot before voters if they can pass the supermajority Democratic legislature by June.
00:03:45.000At a rally outside the state capitol in New York, Governor Kathy Hochul urged lawmakers to start passage of an amendment to the state constitution in upcoming weeks.
00:03:52.000An abortion rights amendment would have to be passed by legislators in two separate sessions and then be approved by the voters.
00:03:56.000California's state senate is also considering a bill that would create a government fund to pay for abortions.
00:04:00.000So in California, honestly, you get to choose your state.
00:04:03.000See, this is one of the wonderful things about federalism.
00:04:05.000One of the wonderful things, you get to choose to live in a state that protects the lives of the unborn, or you can choose to live in a state where everybody is forced by the government to pay for everybody else's abortion.
00:04:16.000Nancy Skinner, Democratic State Senator, who co-wrote the bill, said, We don't want people to have to come here, but we don't want to leave women in desperation, and we do not want deaths.
00:04:23.000Well, I mean, if you don't want deaths, then probably you shouldn't support abortion, since that is an actual killing of an unborn human being.
00:04:28.000But, basically, New York and California, they want to be attracting people for Disneyland and abortion in California, and for Broadway and abortion in New York.
00:04:37.000Connecticut Governor Ned LeMond's Democrats said Tuesday he would sign a bill allowing nurse practitioners and other medical professionals who are not physicians to perform abortions via vacuum aspiration and prescribed medication as well.
00:04:49.000And of course, you are seeing liberal-leaning states do exactly the same.
00:04:53.000And that includes, by the way, liberal-leaning states that have Republican governors like Massachusetts, Vermont, and New Hampshire.
00:04:59.000So, a lot of states already have laws on the books that could ban most abortions if Roe vs. Wade is overturned.
00:05:05.000Those, of course, would be the snapback states.
00:05:09.000From the Washington Post that looks at how this breaks down.
00:05:13.000So there are a bunch of states that had laws that were in place before Roe and that snapped back into place.
00:05:19.000If Roe is indeed overturned, that includes Texas, Louisiana, Georgia, South Carolina, Tennessee, Kentucky, Ohio, Missouri, Iowa, South Dakota, North Dakota, Wyoming, Utah, and Idaho.
00:05:26.000Now, not all of those laws are the same.
00:05:28.000The Ohio laws are not exactly the same as the Texas laws, but they are all restrictive of abortion.
00:05:32.000Then you have a bunch of states that had a ban on abortion pre-Roe, but they don't have a snapback law, so that would be like Wisconsin, Michigan, West Virginia, North Carolina, and Arizona.
00:05:43.000And then you have a bunch of states that have actually enshrined abortion in their law, and that's Maine, Vermont, New York, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Rhode Island, New Jersey, Delaware, D.C., Maryland, Washington, Oregon, Nevada, California, and Colorado, and Illinois.
00:05:56.000And then there are a bunch of states that have a bunch of laws with regard to abortion already on the books, like Florida just passed a 15-week abortion ban.
00:06:04.000And you would expect that that ban would move gradually back toward the point of conception.
00:06:10.000So, in other words, there will be a wide variety of state laws on abortion, which is exactly what existed prior to Roe.
00:06:16.000Nine states, including Oklahoma and Florida, have passed measures that restrict abortion during the current legislative sessions.
00:06:23.000Florida bans abortion past the 15th week, which is actually super duper late.
00:06:27.000The fact is, in Europe, that standard is usually about 12 weeks.
00:06:30.000So Florida's law is still more liberal than most of Europe at this point.
00:06:34.000In Arizona, lawmakers passed a ban on abortion after the 15th week of pregnancy this session, and with exceptions for medical emergencies, that was mirroring the Mississippi law.
00:06:42.000Republican lawmakers said the legislation would allow the states to quickly and easily enforce a similar law should the Supreme Court uphold the 15-week ban.
00:06:48.000Arizona also has a pre-Roe ban that could be resurrected if Roe is struck down.
00:06:52.000So again, it's going to be let a thousand flowers bloom.
00:06:56.000It's going to be each state gets to decide on its own specific abortion protocols, which is precisely what the Constitution suggested at the time.
00:07:03.000Now, there's a really interesting argument that's been made on the right.
00:07:06.000There's some natural law theorists, people like Robert George over at Princeton, who argued that the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment protects the lives of pre-born children.
00:07:13.000Now the Constitution has never been interpreted that way because state laws were always going to protect, like, this would have been an unthinkable thing in 1860.
00:07:20.000The idea that the Constitution would be necessary to protect against abortion because every state had laws on its books protecting against abortion.
00:07:28.000Robert George makes the argument again that pre-born kids are protected by the Equal Protection Clause, their life and liberty cannot be removed without due process of law, that the law protects those who are yet unborn.
00:07:38.000The Supreme Court has never issued any rulings along those lines.
00:07:40.000And so it's been much more of a sort of Robert Borky and Justice Scalia line that was taken by Justice Alito in this League to Draft decision, basically says not a federal issue, not a constitutional issue, it's a state issue.
00:07:50.000And so that is what states are doing, which means that there will have to be a pro-life movement state by state, which is what existed prior to Roe and presumably would now be brought into revival.
00:08:00.000Now the left is saying, this is absolutely terrible because the American people, they love abortion.
00:08:07.000That's because 70% of Americans have no idea what Roe does.
00:08:10.000Really, a huge percentage of Americans have no idea what Roe does.
00:08:14.000They think that Roe makes abortion available, But if you get rid of Roe, all abortions will go away in the United States.
00:08:23.000If you get rid of Roe, you'll still be able to abort seven-year-old children in California and New York.
00:08:29.000I'm exaggerating for effect, but not by much.
00:08:31.000You will just not be able to get an abortion in Texas or Louisiana or Georgia, which means that you will either think harder about whether or not you want to have a kid, and use contraception if you don't want to, or you will travel out of state to get an abortion.
00:08:46.000But abortion in the United States is not over.
00:08:48.000And when you poll Americans, they just don't understand this, because the media have lied to them for years about the idea that Roe is the only thing standing between the American people and the end of abortion.
00:09:02.000So when you see polls about how many people think Roe should be upheld, it's because they have a misapprehension of what Roe actually does.
00:09:25.000And so the end of Roe is not going to do what people think it's going to do, which again is one of the reasons why there's not going to be a massive political blowback that Democrats are counting on.
00:09:32.000Democrats are really, really counting on the idea that this is going to shift the midterm elections.
00:09:35.000It is not going to for several reasons.
00:09:39.000If you want to fight out abortion policy, you're going to do so in state legislative races.
00:09:43.000You are not going to do so based on your senator or based on your congressperson, neither of whom has much control over abortion policy.
00:09:50.000Two, the people who care deeply, deeply about abortion, that's relegated to two separate sides of the political aisle, and it happens to be a minority of both sides of the political aisle.
00:09:58.000So you've got the pro-abortion radicals, And that constitutes a vast minority of the American people.
00:10:03.000A very small percentage of Americans actually want abortion available until point of birth.
00:10:07.000Most Americans are somewhere in between.
00:10:08.000Most Americans want pretty heavy regulations on abortion in the last trimester, some regulations on abortion in the second trimester, and not many regulations on abortion early on in the pregnancy.
00:10:17.000That is where the American people broadly writ are.
00:10:50.000Most people are not going to feel the new threat.
00:10:52.000Because again, if you're in a blue state and you care deeply about abortion and you want an abortion, you're already living in a blue state.
00:10:57.000The crimson red states are already crimson red.
00:11:00.000So the idea that independent voters are so deeply invested in abortion, it's just not true.
00:11:04.000Independent voters tend to vote based on the economy, as always.
00:11:07.000They tend to vote based on, say, a new threat to their children in schools.
00:11:12.000They do not tend to vote based on a hypothetical.
00:11:14.000And again, Democrats are now asking them to freak out about a hypothetical in which not only does their state outlaw abortion, but then they also get pregnant through no fault of their own and decide that they want to kill the baby.
00:11:58.000Just going to put that out there right now.
00:12:00.000Again, Democrats are deeply invested in the idea that their most radical-held policy positions are deeply felt by the American people, and it's not true.
00:12:07.000They tried this with Wendy Davis in Texas.
00:12:09.000Remember, Wendy Davis was a state legislator and she was very, very angry.
00:12:12.000The state of Texas was going to pass pro-life laws.
00:12:15.000And she got up and she filibustered and she was wearing pink sneakers.
00:12:17.000And it was just an amazing national story.
00:12:19.000And then she ran for governor and she got clocked by Greg Abbott by one million points.
00:12:23.000And she's not held elected statewide office since.
00:12:39.000So this is why when people cite these polls saying that a majority of Americans think the court should uphold Roe, that's because again, they don't know what Roe does.
00:12:47.000Not only do they not know what Roe does, they don't particularly feel great investment in Roe, and the politically active feel great investment in Roe, but not a lot of other people do.
00:12:59.000And as the polls suggest, it's what I've suggested, 57% of Americans oppose their state making abortions legal only in the first 15 weeks of pregnancy.
00:13:06.000A simple majority, 58%, opposes limiting abortion to the first six weeks of pregnancy.
00:13:12.000So basically, six in 10 Americans don't want heavy restrictions in the first trimester.
00:13:17.000But as you move forward, if you move closer to pregnancy fruition, if you move closer to birth, then those numbers shift in the opposite direction.
00:13:27.000And by the way, most are unaware of recent abortion restrictions passed in their states, which again demonstrates this is not top-of-the-heap stuff for most Americans.
00:13:33.000This is according to a Washington Post poll.
00:13:36.00040% of Americans say their state has recently passed laws.
00:13:39.00038% say that their state has not recently passed laws.
00:14:05.000In one second, we'll get to the democratic reaction, sheer panic, and why that is, why they're reacting with sheer panic.
00:14:11.000First, simple fact, you know, you spend a lot of time in your bed every night, hopefully eight hours a night, but you're probably tossing and turning and maybe you already have a great mattress, but what you don't have is a great set of sheets.
00:14:22.000The sheets make an enormous difference.
00:14:24.000This is why we at the Shapiro household, we took out all of our sheets, we threw them in the garbage, and we only use Bull & Branch because it is the best sheets available.
00:14:31.000Bull & Branch uses the best 100% organic cotton sheets on earth for a superior softness and better night's sleep.
00:14:37.000Their sheets aren't just buttery, breathable, and impossibly soft to start.
00:14:40.000They get softer with every single Wash.
00:15:28.000So the Democrats are just reacting with absolute sheer panic, which demonstrates really how core abortion is to their entire worldview.
00:15:36.000It's not just that they care deeply about the ability of a woman to terminate her pregnancy.
00:15:40.000What they really care deeply about is a war that the left has waged on actual biology for decades on end.
00:15:46.000The idea being that biology is some sort of barrier to entry for people who are not quite And therefore, we have to shape biology and get rid of the consequences of biology and treat biology as a grave evil.
00:15:58.000And you see this in its fullest form with regard to the argument now made by Democrats that boys can be girls and girls can be boys for the sake of equality.
00:16:05.000But this begins with the idea that somehow pregnancy is unnatural, that it is not an expected possibility that when you have sex, unprotected, that you're going to get pregnant, and that even if you have sex protected, there's the possibility, minute as it is, that you might get pregnant.
00:16:19.000That somehow a pregnancy is a foreign invasion of your body, as opposed to the natural outgrowth of sex?
00:16:26.000And that therefore, the only way to establish equality is to get rid of... The person who used to argue this the most, actually, was Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
00:16:33.000So Democrats have argued that it's a right-to-privacy issue, which makes no sense.
00:16:37.000They've argued it's a right-to-privacy issue since Roe vs. Wade, a horribly reasoned decision, as we went through yesterday.
00:16:43.000Which argued that somehow a woman killing her unborn child with the help of a doctor was a privacy issue, which is kind of bizarre considering it now involves three people, one of whom will die.
00:16:55.000But the Ruth Bader Ginsburg argument is really the more telling argument for the left, which is she said abortion was necessary because biology is an imposition on a woman.
00:17:02.000Therefore, in order to even the tables between men and women, we have to make it so women can kill their unborn children.
00:17:07.000And that was the argument Ruth Bader Ginsburg made.
00:17:09.000And that again, it goes to the idea that life, human life is a subjective decision.
00:17:14.000There's an entire democratic worldview that is embedded in the support for abortion.
00:17:18.000And it carries several premises within it.
00:17:20.000One, it is a matter of subjective interpretation what human life is because all of human life is a subjective interpretation.
00:17:26.000As the court held in Planned Parenthood versus Casey, it is the heart of liberty to decide the mystery of human life.
00:17:37.000If it were at the heart of liberty to decide what other human beings mean and what their lives mean, slavery would still be legal and so would genocide.
00:17:45.000Because there's not a murderer alive who believes that the person that they killed is someone who had the full right to life and then they just went ahead and murdered them anyway.
00:17:55.000So there's a subjective interpretation of what human life is that Democrats are very deeply invested in because that subjectivity allows them to remold the utopia they want.
00:18:05.000They're deeply invested in the idea that biology is subjective too.
00:18:07.000So they can remold all of society around the idea that inequality of outcome means that there was some sort of inequality in the system.
00:18:15.000And they are deeply invested, most of all, In the idea that there is no such thing as right and wrong, and therefore they can shape society however it suits them.
00:18:23.000Subjective reality has to be obliterated and vitiated.
00:18:25.000And that is exactly what they've done with abortion.
00:19:09.000Joe Biden, by the way, still has had no comments on the leak itself.
00:19:11.000So you'd imagine the sitting president of the United States might have some comments on the fact that Supreme Court protocol was breached by somebody leaking in unprecedented fashion an entire draft opinion.
00:19:20.000He had nothing to say about this because, again, according to the left, leaks are good depending on who's doing the leaking and what exactly is being leaked.
00:19:27.000I mean, by the way, I'm not aware of a single major Democrat, not one, who's condemned the leak itself.
00:19:33.000Which should tell you something about their respect for norms.
00:19:36.000The great respecters of norms, again, not one major, you're gonna have to, spot me the Democrat.
00:19:48.000Donald Trump violated all the norms, that's why he was so bad.
00:19:51.000Donald Trump was involved in a coup, that's why he's so bad.
00:19:53.000Meanwhile, you have people Destroying Supreme Court protocol by releasing draft decisions in an attempt to overthrow the Supreme Court's decision-making process.
00:20:05.000And then you have the Democrats claiming that they want to pack the court.
00:20:07.000And then you have the Democrats claiming they want to kill the filibuster.
00:20:10.000These are these great norms protectors over here.
00:20:11.000Anyway, Joe Biden didn't have anything to say about that.
00:20:13.000He did say that this was a radical, radical decision, which is amazing.
00:20:17.000Again, the radical decision, according to the left, is let people vote on this issue.
00:20:21.000It is not a radical decision, however, to have justices simply take the issue off the table and make one rule for the entire United States about whether unborn babies can be killed en masse by the millions.
00:20:31.000Do you think that this leak has irreverently changed the court?
00:20:46.000It's a radical decision, according to Joe Biden.
00:20:49.000Now, not only is it a radical decision, I mean, this dullard, the language that he uses with abortion, he can't even make the abortion argument in cohesive, comprehensive, or convincing fashion.
00:21:12.000So the idea that we're going to make a judgment that is going to say that no one can make the judgment to choose to abort a child based on a decision by the Supreme Court, I think goes way overboard.
00:21:32.000The idea that no one can make a decision whether to abort a child based on a decision by the Supreme Court?
00:21:36.000No, based on a decision by voters in their states.
00:21:38.000And also, thank you, Mr. President, for acknowledging that you're ending the life of a child when you perform an abortion.
00:22:12.000It is deeply radical to suggest, as the Democratic Party platform does, that one minute before the baby enters the birth canal, he can plunge a knife into its skull.
00:22:19.000Which is what the Democratic Party, this is their platform.
00:24:41.000As far as the idea that it's the quickening, like Aquinas?
00:24:44.000Okay, the quickening, which was the notion that you didn't know whether a baby was formed in the womb until you could feel it kicking, was because science was really bad circa about 1000, as it turns out.
00:25:10.000You'll see people who are liberal, left-wing Jews today arguing that Judaism is a pro-choice religion.
00:25:15.000No, Judaism is not a pro-choice religion.
00:25:17.000Judaism is a pro-life religion that allows rabbinic exceptions in particular specified cases.
00:25:22.000That's a far more accurate take on what Jewish law provides.
00:25:24.000Now, again, I'm not arguing that Jewish law should be the basis for American law or that Christian law should be the basis for American law.
00:25:31.000I'm arguing that biology and human reason should be the basic.
00:25:36.000And that is that human life clearly begins a conception that everything from that point on is a human life with potential, not a potential human life, a human life with potential.
00:25:45.000And that it deserves legal protection.
00:25:47.000But if Joe Biden is going to make religious arguments, then really, at some point, he might actually want to pick up, you know, a Bible or a book of Psalms.
00:25:55.000By the way, in 2012, when Joe Biden was vice president, he said, quote, with regard to abortion, I accept my church's position on abortion as what we called a de fide doctrine.
00:26:29.000Here he explains that this is why he worked to destroy Robert Boer.
00:26:34.000Robert Bork, again, you'll remember that he was nominated to the Supreme Court by Ronald Reagan.
00:26:37.000And then Joe Biden was one of the key figures in lying about Robert Bork and slandering him as a racist.
00:26:42.000And here he acknowledges that one of the reasons he did this is because this process has been politicized by the left.
00:26:47.000Supreme Court nominations have been politicized by the left.
00:26:49.000This is why when the left protests, oh my God, the Supreme Court is political now.
00:26:52.000No, the Supreme Court just read the words of the Constitution, where you cannot identify anything remotely resembling a right to abortion.
00:26:59.000You guys are the ones who decided that everybody who sits on the Supreme Court has to be a partisan Democrat who will do exactly the same voting job that Joe Biden or Nancy Pelosi would.
00:27:07.000Here's Joe Biden admitting the quiet part out loud.
00:27:09.000It doesn't represent who's going to vote for it yet.
00:27:14.000I hope there are not enough votes for it.
00:27:16.000It's the main reason why I worked so hard to keep Robert Bork off the court.
00:27:23.000Oh, well, I mean, the reason you work to keep him off the court is because you wanted your political point of view enshrined into the Constitution.
00:28:09.000So Barack Obama issues a statement with Mrs. Obama because, again, a non-elected official like Michelle Obama, we clearly need her opinion.
00:28:22.000Because some tens of millions of Americans have died under the knife over the course of the last 50 years.
00:28:29.000And so they didn't have a chance to wake up fearing anything because they were dead, thanks to Roe versus Wade.
00:28:35.000If the Supreme Court ultimately decides to overturn the landmark case of Roe versus Wade, it will not only reverse nearly 50 years of precedent, it will relegate the most intensely personal decision someone can make to the whims of politicians and ideologues.
00:29:00.000You lit the White House up in gay pride flag colors after Obergefell, which reversed not 50 years of precedent, hundreds of years of precedent.
00:29:08.000So don't give me a lecture about precedent, dude.
00:29:12.000And as far as the idea that, oh, you're relegating the most personal decision someone can make to the whims of politicians, first of all, I've noticed that you don't feel this way about, say, vaccination.
00:29:21.000I noticed that you don't feel this way about, say, forcing doctors to perform puberty blockers And surgeries for children.
00:29:29.000I notice you don't feel that way about the little sisters of the poor having to perform contraceptive care.
00:29:36.000I notice that you don't feel that way about those personal decisions.
00:29:39.000But also, this was relegated to the whims of politicians and ideologues.
00:29:44.000They just happen to be sitting on the court, not subject to voters.
00:29:50.000And then Barack Obama and wife continue, few if any women make the decision to terminate a pregnancy casually.
00:30:29.000It is antiquated according to democratic standards.
00:30:32.000But the Obamas say, few if any women make the decision to terminate a pregnancy casually.
00:30:36.000Again, the reason I say this is not true is because what the data show is that many, many women have multiple repeat abortions, which demonstrates they're using it as a form of birth control.
00:30:44.000They're not using it as a form of emergency contraceptive care.
00:30:48.000People of goodwill across the political spectrum can hold different views on the subject.
00:30:52.000But what Roe recognized is that the freedom enshrined in the 14th Amendment of the Constitution requires all of us to enjoy a sphere of our lives that isn't subject to meddling from the state.
00:31:01.000Tell me about spheres of our lives not subject to meddling from the state Barack Obama.
00:31:08.000A sphere that includes personal decisions involving who we sleep with, who we marry, whether or not to use contraception, and whether or not to bear children.
00:31:14.000I noticed that this decision is not a reversal of Obergefell.
00:31:19.000I noticed it's not a decision of Lawrence v. Texas.
00:31:21.000It's not affecting Griswold v. Connecticut.
00:31:25.000And as far as the decision on whether or not to bear children, I noticed that there are multiple decisions that come before that decision and don't involve the murder of the unborn.
00:31:35.000Barack Obama and Michelle continue, as the court has previously determined, our freedoms are not unlimited.
00:31:39.000Society has a compelling interest in other circumstances, for example, in protecting children from abuse or people from self-harm.
00:31:44.000And the framework constructed by Roe and subsequent court decisions allowed legislatures to impose greater restrictions on abortion later in pregnancy.
00:31:51.000But this draft decision doesn't seek to balance those interests.
00:31:53.000Instead, it simply forces folks to give up any constitutionally recognized interest in what happens to their body once they get pregnant.
00:32:01.000No, it forces them to go and vote in their state.
00:32:03.000Again, he is perpetuating a lie, and that lie is that Roe bans abortion across the nation.
00:32:10.000Under the court's logic, says Obama's, state legislatures could dictate that women carry even pregnancy to term, every pregnancy to term, no matter how early it is and no matter what circumstances led to it, even rape or incest.
00:32:19.000The consequences of this decision would be a blow not just to women, but to all of us who believe that in a free society there are limits to how much the government can encroach on our personal lives.
00:32:26.000Again, listening to this guy spout libertarian nostrums is ridiculous!
00:32:31.000He's the most intrusive president in modern American history.
00:32:35.000There's not a personal decision in your life other than abortion and where you put your genitals that Barack Obama thinks the government should not be involved in.
00:32:43.000But the reason they draw the line when it comes to abortion and where you put your genitals is because that allows them to blow up the gender binary and destroy human biology and get rid of objective truth, the metric of which happens to be biological reality.
00:32:55.000But that's the only line they ever draw.
00:32:58.000He says, This will create illegal abortions that pose grave risks to health, etc, etc.
00:33:05.000And finally, he says, a clear majority of Americans support Roe, yet we recognize that while many are angry and frustrated by this report, some of those who support Roe may feel helpless and instinctively turn back to their work or families or daily tasks, telling themselves that because this outcome may have been predictable, there's nothing any of us can do.
00:33:19.000If that's you, we ask you to think about the college student waking up after her date, forced into unprotected sex.
00:33:25.000By the way, the number of women who have abortion due to rape is exceedingly low by all available data, including Guttmacher Institute data.
00:33:31.000Guttmacher is a very pro-abortion group.
00:33:34.000Whenever Democrats use rape and incest as the exceptions, just understand that if you said to them, we will allow abortion in the cases of rape and incest, it's not like they would go back to being happy.
00:33:42.000They want abortion in all cases because rape and incest represent far less than 1% of all cases of abortion in the United States.
00:33:49.000Think about the couple that tried to have children for years, who are without any options when faced with the tragic reality of an unviable pregnancy.
00:33:55.000Think of any of the hundreds of thousands of women each year who deserve the dignity and freedom of making a decision that is right for their bodies and their circumstances.
00:34:01.000Well, but there is such a thing as right and wrong.
00:34:04.000This is where the moral relativism comes in.
00:34:06.000They say that it's their moral right, a decision that is right for their bodies, and only they can make a decision to kill this thing that has no outside interest.
00:34:15.000Well, understand that when Barack Obama talks about competing interests, he's lying.
00:34:18.000He doesn't believe there are any competing interests.
00:34:19.000He believes the only interest is whether you can kill a thing in your womb, and that thing in your womb has no independent interest in life.
00:34:28.000He says, we're not asking you just to think about these people.
00:34:30.000We're asking you to join with the activists who've been sounding the alarm on this issues for years and act, stand with them at a local protest, volunteer with them on a campaign, join with them in urging Congress to codify, etc, etc, etc.
00:34:40.000So the idea is activism solves this problem.
00:34:42.000OK, let me just point out once again, this is not going to swing elections.
00:34:55.000Because Democrats believe that people support Roe on the basis of Roe itself, not because they have a misapprehension of Roe, but because they love abortion, Democrats are now going to push for abortion until birth enshrined into the Constitution.
00:35:07.000That is such a, it's an electoral loser.
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00:37:03.000So the Biden administration has decided to deploy their finest rhetorician.
00:37:13.000We are talking, of course, about Kamala Harris, one of the most charming, brilliant, concise personalities in American life.
00:38:08.000No one believes that protecting the unborn is a quote-unquote war on women other than people who are already indoctrinated in that belief.
00:38:15.000And Democrats are, they're trying desperately to shift the topic away from the economy.
00:38:19.000They're desperately trying to shift the topic away from crime.
00:38:22.000They're desperately trying to shift away from illegal immigration.
00:38:24.000And they're gonna go back to social issues and this claim that Republicans are going to prey on women in the night and all of this kind of stuff.
00:39:03.000If the right to privacy is weakened, every person could face a future in which the government can potentially interfere in the personal decisions you make about your life.
00:39:09.000This is the time to fight for women and for our country with everything we have.
00:39:13.000Aw, that sounds like insurrectionary language to me.
00:40:18.000On the deepest possible level, it relies on the dehumanization of a pre-born human being who happens to be your own child.
00:40:24.000It's an amazing moral argument, and I'm sorry, how dare you, is not an actual argument.
00:40:29.000You want to make an argument for why a woman's right to career advancement outweighs the right to life of the human being that is in her womb?
00:41:17.000This is a dark and disturbing day for America.
00:41:22.000Last night, a report came out that a conservative majority on the United States Supreme Court is ready to overturn Roe v. Wade And uproot decades of precedent affirming a woman's right to an abortion.
00:41:37.000Democrats are going to fight this decision all the way for as long as it takes.
00:42:09.000I rarely invoke religion on this program, but it's rather satanic to claim that the bedrock right of a nation is the right to kill unborn human beings.
00:42:19.000It is our intention for the Senate to hold a vote on legislation to codify the right to an abortion in law.
00:42:23.000will hold a vote. This is my favorite part. My favorite part is where he says, we're going to do something. We're going to hold a symbolic vote where we don't actually have the votes.
00:42:29.000It is our intention for the Senate to hold a vote on legislation to codify the right to an abortion in law. Second, a vote on this legislation is no longer an abstract exercise.
00:42:45.000This is as urgent and as real as it gets.
00:42:50.000We will vote to protect a woman's right to choose, and every American is going to see which side every senator stands on.
00:43:29.000So Elizabeth Warren, who is one of the great political failures of our lifetime, She showed up wearing her pink jacket, because pink means, it means womanhood!
00:43:40.000But it's, in any case, here is Elizabeth Warren, very, very deeply upset, very upset, that the Supreme Court did not uphold, or may not uphold, the quote-unquote right to abortion that exists nowhere in the document.
00:43:54.000So she's as upset as anyone has ever seen Elizabeth Warren, other than that one time that she pretended to be a Native American and got found out.
00:44:02.000The Republicans have been working toward this day for decades.
00:44:07.000They have been out there plotting, terribly cultivating these Supreme Court justices so they could have a majority on the bench who would accomplish something That the majority of Americans do not want.
00:44:21.00069% of people across this country, across this country, red states and blue states, old people and young people, want Roe vs. Wade to maintain as the law of the land.
00:44:56.000The Supreme Court is saying you get to vote on these issues.
00:44:59.000They have to lie in order to make you believe that this is the end of the world.
00:45:02.000They have to lie in order to make you believe that the Supreme Court is now usurping power, when in reality, Roe was the great usurpation of power.
00:45:19.000You had the Supreme Court that literally said no one gets to sound off on abortion in their states.
00:45:23.000That wasn't an imposition, according to the left.
00:45:25.000Now the Supreme Court says you get to vote on the issue.
00:45:27.000And Elizabeth Warren is like, this is anti-democratic.
00:45:29.000The Supreme Court was designed to not take into account public opinion.
00:45:32.000You are saying that they should have looked at the polling and then they should have voted in favor of Roe because you have lied to people enough that they polled the wrong way on the issue.
00:45:59.000And what I feel angry about is that an extremist Supreme Court is going to impose their views on the rest of America.
00:46:12.000Oh, so when they let people vote, that's imposing extreme view on the rest of America.
00:46:18.000Meanwhile, Elizabeth Warren, great respecter of norms, she says it's time to kill the filibuster.
00:46:22.000Now, she's been calling for this on pretty much every score.
00:46:24.000She wants to kill the filibuster in order to preserve the killing of the unborn, of course.
00:46:28.000When 69% of Americans in a democracy want to see something happen, you'd think we'd be able at least to get a vote on the floor of the Senate on that question.
00:46:41.000But the filibuster prevents us from doing that.
00:46:44.000In the same way that historically the filibuster was used to prevent us from getting to the civil rights laws, to prevent us from getting to anti-lynching laws, it prevents us from having a vote Oh, okay.
00:47:02.000So we're just going to destroy that norm as well.
00:47:05.000Meanwhile, it's amazing to watch some of the sort of mush Republicans on this sort of thing.
00:47:09.000So Lisa Murkowski from Alaska, she came out and she said that this draft rocks.
00:47:28.000We don't know the direction that this decision may ultimately take, but if it goes in the direction that this leaked copy has indicated, I will just tell you that it rocks my confidence in the court right now.
00:48:24.000Everyone right, left, and center understood this.
00:48:27.000Meanwhile, Cori Bush is out there saying that not only should we abolish the filibuster, we should force pro-life Americans to fund abortions.
00:48:35.000We need to see who's going to vote for it.
00:48:39.000But when I think about what else the President could do, one option could be through the Food and Drug Administration.
00:48:47.000The President could have the FDA issue regulations to expand access to medication abortion.
00:48:53.000We need to bring that back into the conversation so that pregnant people could have access to a two-pill regimen safely and be able to end a pregnancy at home up to 10 weeks.
00:49:04.000You know, what about the Department of Health and Human Services encouraging states to use their own Medicaid funds, of course, which are not governed by the Hyde Amendment.
00:49:36.000And I gotta say, the mush Republicans like Bret Stephens, don't let the door hit you on the way out.
00:49:41.000Bret Stephens has a piece in the New York Times titled, The new conservatism, in which you're not allowed to overturn a bad Supreme Court precedent that allows for the killing of a million unborn children a year.
00:49:54.000Like, slow clap for the conservatives who really think this.
00:49:58.000Brett Stevens says, Dear Chief Justice Roberts and Justices Barrett, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Thomas, as you'll no doubt agree, Roe v. Wade was an ill-judged decision when it was handed down on January 22, 1973.
00:50:15.000The mildness with which Bret Stephens takes a row.
00:50:17.000It stood on the legal principle of a right to privacy found, at the time, mainly in the penumbras of the Constitution.
00:50:23.000It irrigated to the least democratic branch of government the power to settle a question that would have been better decided by Congress or state legislatures.
00:50:28.000It set off a culture war that polarized the country, radicalized detentions, and made compromise more difficult.
00:50:34.000It helped turn confirmation hearings for the Supreme Court into unholy deathmatches they are now.
00:50:38.000It diminished the standing of the court by turning it into an ever more political branch of government.
00:51:02.000It is, above all, the conviction that abrupt and profound changes to established laws and common expectations are utterly destructive to respect for the law and institutions established to uphold it, especially when those changes are instigated from above, with neither democratic consent nor broad consensus.
00:51:15.000I don't remember Bret Stephens writing this column about Obergefell.
00:52:54.000That wasn't even based on the right to privacy, you idiots.
00:52:56.000That's based on the Equal Protection Clause.
00:52:58.000Wrong constitutional clause, you morons.
00:53:01.000And then they try to, well, they might overturn Obergefell.
00:53:03.000First of all, Obergefell is a bad Supreme Court decision.
00:53:06.000And if we had a Supreme Court worth its salt, they would overturn Obergefell, but they're not going to.
00:53:09.000They explicitly say, Alito says, I think three separate times in that decision that I read in nearly its totality on the air yesterday, that this has no impact on other cases of different lines, which is a clear reference to Obergefell repeatedly.
00:53:23.000Okay, but Democrats know that deep down in the cockles of their tiny little Grinch-like hearts on abortion, they know that the abortion issue is not a winner, so they're trying to expand it out and say, well, you never know, the Supreme Court, they might go after gay rights, they might go after... Mm-hmm, sure, you're right.
00:53:35.000The same Supreme Court in which Neil Gorsuch idiotically ruled that the Civil Rights Act of 1964 covers transgender people is going to now overrule Obergefell.
00:53:47.000The way Alito frames this, all rights that are not specifically mentioned in the Constitution, if they are not deeply rooted in our nation's history and traditions, whatever that means, wouldn't be legitimate.
00:53:59.000That would include gay marriage, maybe even interracial marriage.
00:54:03.000Certainly not rooted deeply in our nation's history and traditions.
00:54:06.000So a lot of people are looking at this opinion.
00:54:10.000A lot of people are looking at this opinion.
00:54:11.000Well, I mean, they should be, but based on what it is, not based on what you guys wish that it were, because that way you would get to pretend that we are on the verge of fascistic takeover.
00:54:21.000By the way, even if they did overrule Obergefell, you know what would happen?
00:54:24.000Gay marriage would still be legal in a vast majority of states.
00:54:28.000Anyway, Whoopi Goldberg, again, more of our geniuses in the media sounding off.
00:54:33.000Here's Whoopi Goldberg going off on this one.
00:54:36.000This law came about because people wanted people to have somewhere safe and somewhere clean.
00:54:42.000It has nothing to do with your religion.
00:56:10.000And why should you be allowed to make it?
00:56:11.000I mean, really, that is the real question.
00:56:14.000Meanwhile, Joy Behar says she sees fascism.
00:56:17.000Again, listening to people who want to control every aspect of your religious life, how you raise your kids, your economic life, whether you get a shot, whether you put on a mask, lecture you about fascism, is really something.
00:56:45.000You don't get just a claim that you have rights to freedom to kill, particularly on that latter issue.
00:56:52.000On the issue of abortion, where there's a countervailing... I mean, this is a point that Alito makes.
00:56:56.000Even if you are a big same-sex marriage advocate, you can argue that there's a right to privacy that applies there because you're talking about private consensual sexual activity.
00:57:03.000When there's a life of a third party at stake, that is a different story.
00:57:06.000Anyway, here's Joy Behar talking about fascism.
00:57:56.000I talked to another woman who had tears in her eyes and said that she went up to the volunteers to thank them for their work because she said her, as a woman who's an attorney who has the means and resources, that she'll always be able to get an abortion because she'll be able to fly to one of what they're calling the 13 safe states, places that might continue to have abortion, like California or New York.
00:58:14.000But for a lot of vulnerable women, women who are poor, women of color, they will be forced to have pregnancies that they cannot afford.
00:58:24.000Okay, they will be forced to have pregnancies that they cannot abort is a great way of saying they will have their children and not kill them.
00:58:31.000The euphemisms, the euphemisms, the euphemisms.
00:58:33.000Meanwhile, Neal Katyal, really, I think he sums it up for the left.
00:58:37.000So Neal Katyal, who's over on MSNBC Legal Analyst, he says he wanted to cry.
00:59:34.000While we have seen the writing on the wall for decades, it is no less devastating and comes just as anti-abortion rights groups unveil their ultimate plan to ban abortion nationwide.
00:59:41.000Understand Planned Parenthood and our partners have been preparing for every possible outcome in this case and are built for this fight.