The Ben Shapiro Show - The Left’s Abortion Meltdown | Ep. 1487

00:00:00.000 In the aftermath of a leaked Supreme Court majority decision striking downrow, the left goes absolutely berserk.

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00:01:27.000 All righty, so John Roberts, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, has now acknowledged that the leaked Supreme Court draft majority opinion decision by Justice Alito striking down Roe v. Wade is indeed legitimate.

00:01:37.000 He says, however, that because it is a first draft, it is not a final draft.

00:01:41.000 It's not clear which way the court is going to go or if this decision is going to look exactly like the decision that comes out from the court.

00:01:47.000 According to The Wall Street Journal, a leaked Supreme Court draft opinion written by Justice Samuel Alito and published late Monday by Politico indicated the court may be preparing to overturn Roe v. Wade.

00:01:56.000 Chief Justice John Roberts confirmed in a statement that the draft written by Justice Samuel Alito was authentic.

00:02:00.000 He said it was not necessarily the final resolution of the case.

00:02:03.000 He said this was a singular and egregious breach of trust.

00:02:05.000 I mean, he's correct.

00:02:07.000 It is a singular and egregious breach of trust.

00:02:10.000 He would know about that considering that he wrote the Obamacare decision.

00:02:12.000 Justice Roberts condemned the leak, said he had directed the court's marshal to investigate the matter.

00:02:16.000 So we've now reached the timeline where the marshal of the Supreme Court actually may arrest somebody, which is pretty amazing.

00:02:21.000 The 67-page opinion declared Roe was egregiously wrong and deeply damaging.

00:02:26.000 The court is expected to actually issue the opinion by the end of June or early July, but the truth is, at this point, the court should just release it.

00:02:31.000 The court should just move forward and release this opinion, and then we can be done, because otherwise, this is just going to simmer for nigh on two months.

00:02:38.000 And there's no purpose to that at all.

00:02:40.000 In the meantime, states are moving in various directions on abortion.

00:02:44.000 So you have more conservative-leaning states already moving to enshrine the right to life, and you are seeing liberal-leaning states enshrining the right to abortion, all the way, basically, up until you are about, I don't know, 67 years old or so.

00:02:55.000 According to the Wall Street Journal, state political leaders across the country proposed new laws and staked out positions as a leak of a draft opinion indicated the Supreme Court could soon overturn Roe v. Wade, which would make the legality of abortions a state issue.

00:03:07.000 South Dakota Governor Kristi Noemer, a Republican, tweeted Tuesday she would immediately call for a special session if Roe is overturned to save lives and guarantee that every unborn child has a right to life in South Dakota and Alabama.

00:03:16.000 A legislative leader promised quick action to quickly end abortion within our borders.

00:03:19.000 Meanwhile, in New York and California, Democratic lawmakers say they would push to amend their state constitution to cement existing laws that protect abortion rights.

00:03:26.000 Completely unnecessary in California and New York, considering how left-leaning the state is.

00:03:31.000 You don't need an actual constitutional amendment to protect the killing of the unborn, but they will do so anyway. 1.00

00:03:36.000 Legislative leaders in California are aiming to put an amendment on the ballot before voters if they can pass the supermajority Democratic legislature by June.

00:03:45.000 At a rally outside the state capitol in New York, Governor Kathy Hochul urged lawmakers to start passage of an amendment to the state constitution in upcoming weeks.

00:03:52.000 An abortion rights amendment would have to be passed by legislators in two separate sessions and then be approved by the voters. 1.00

00:03:56.000 California's state senate is also considering a bill that would create a government fund to pay for abortions.

00:04:00.000 So in California, honestly, you get to choose your state.

00:04:03.000 See, this is one of the wonderful things about federalism.

00:04:05.000 One of the wonderful things, you get to choose to live in a state that protects the lives of the unborn, or you can choose to live in a state where everybody is forced by the government to pay for everybody else's abortion.

00:04:14.000 Which is exciting stuff.

00:04:16.000 Nancy Skinner, Democratic State Senator, who co-wrote the bill, said, We don't want people to have to come here, but we don't want to leave women in desperation, and we do not want deaths. 0.91

00:04:23.000 Well, I mean, if you don't want deaths, then probably you shouldn't support abortion, since that is an actual killing of an unborn human being. 0.74

00:04:28.000 But, basically, New York and California, they want to be attracting people for Disneyland and abortion in California, and for Broadway and abortion in New York.

00:04:37.000 Connecticut Governor Ned LeMond's Democrats said Tuesday he would sign a bill allowing nurse practitioners and other medical professionals who are not physicians to perform abortions via vacuum aspiration and prescribed medication as well.

00:04:49.000 And of course, you are seeing liberal-leaning states do exactly the same.

00:04:53.000 And that includes, by the way, liberal-leaning states that have Republican governors like Massachusetts, Vermont, and New Hampshire.

00:04:59.000 So, a lot of states already have laws on the books that could ban most abortions if Roe vs. Wade is overturned.

00:05:05.000 Those, of course, would be the snapback states.

00:05:06.000 So here is a map.

00:05:09.000 From the Washington Post that looks at how this breaks down.

00:05:13.000 So there are a bunch of states that had laws that were in place before Roe and that snapped back into place.

00:05:19.000 If Roe is indeed overturned, that includes Texas, Louisiana, Georgia, South Carolina, Tennessee, Kentucky, Ohio, Missouri, Iowa, South Dakota, North Dakota, Wyoming, Utah, and Idaho.

00:05:26.000 Now, not all of those laws are the same.

00:05:28.000 The Ohio laws are not exactly the same as the Texas laws, but they are all restrictive of abortion.

00:05:32.000 Then you have a bunch of states that had a ban on abortion pre-Roe, but they don't have a snapback law, so that would be like Wisconsin, Michigan, West Virginia, North Carolina, and Arizona.

00:05:43.000 And then you have a bunch of states that have actually enshrined abortion in their law, and that's Maine, Vermont, New York, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Rhode Island, New Jersey, Delaware, D.C., Maryland, Washington, Oregon, Nevada, California, and Colorado, and Illinois.

00:05:55.000 Those are the states.

00:05:56.000 And then there are a bunch of states that have a bunch of laws with regard to abortion already on the books, like Florida just passed a 15-week abortion ban.

00:06:04.000 And you would expect that that ban would move gradually back toward the point of conception.

00:06:10.000 So, in other words, there will be a wide variety of state laws on abortion, which is exactly what existed prior to Roe.

00:06:16.000 Nine states, including Oklahoma and Florida, have passed measures that restrict abortion during the current legislative sessions.

00:06:21.000 Of course, not in the same way.

00:06:22.000 Oklahoma basically bans all abortion.

00:06:23.000 Florida bans abortion past the 15th week, which is actually super duper late.

00:06:27.000 The fact is, in Europe, that standard is usually about 12 weeks.

00:06:30.000 So Florida's law is still more liberal than most of Europe at this point.

00:06:34.000 In Arizona, lawmakers passed a ban on abortion after the 15th week of pregnancy this session, and with exceptions for medical emergencies, that was mirroring the Mississippi law.

00:06:42.000 Republican lawmakers said the legislation would allow the states to quickly and easily enforce a similar law should the Supreme Court uphold the 15-week ban.

00:06:48.000 Arizona also has a pre-Roe ban that could be resurrected if Roe is struck down.

00:06:52.000 So again, it's going to be let a thousand flowers bloom.

00:06:56.000 It's going to be each state gets to decide on its own specific abortion protocols, which is precisely what the Constitution suggested at the time. 0.94

00:07:03.000 Now, there's a really interesting argument that's been made on the right.

00:07:06.000 There's some natural law theorists, people like Robert George over at Princeton, who argued that the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment protects the lives of pre-born children.

00:07:13.000 Now the Constitution has never been interpreted that way because state laws were always going to protect, like, this would have been an unthinkable thing in 1860.

00:07:20.000 The idea that the Constitution would be necessary to protect against abortion because every state had laws on its books protecting against abortion.

00:07:28.000 Robert George makes the argument again that pre-born kids are protected by the Equal Protection Clause, their life and liberty cannot be removed without due process of law, that the law protects those who are yet unborn.

00:07:38.000 The Supreme Court has never issued any rulings along those lines.

00:07:40.000 And so it's been much more of a sort of Robert Borky and Justice Scalia line that was taken by Justice Alito in this League to Draft decision, basically says not a federal issue, not a constitutional issue, it's a state issue.

00:07:50.000 And so that is what states are doing, which means that there will have to be a pro-life movement state by state, which is what existed prior to Roe and presumably would now be brought into revival.

00:08:00.000 Now the left is saying, this is absolutely terrible because the American people, they love abortion.

00:08:05.000 They love it.

00:08:06.000 70% of them want Roe upheld.

00:08:07.000 That's because 70% of Americans have no idea what Roe does.

00:08:10.000 Really, a huge percentage of Americans have no idea what Roe does.

00:08:14.000 They think that Roe makes abortion available, But if you get rid of Roe, all abortions will go away in the United States.

00:08:23.000 If you get rid of Roe, you'll still be able to abort seven-year-old children in California and New York.

00:08:29.000 I'm exaggerating for effect, but not by much.

00:08:31.000 You will just not be able to get an abortion in Texas or Louisiana or Georgia, which means that you will either think harder about whether or not you want to have a kid, and use contraception if you don't want to, or you will travel out of state to get an abortion.

00:08:46.000 But abortion in the United States is not over.

00:08:48.000 And when you poll Americans, they just don't understand this, because the media have lied to them for years about the idea that Roe is the only thing standing between the American people and the end of abortion.

00:08:58.000 And that's not true at all.

00:08:59.000 I wish it were true.

00:09:00.000 It happens not to be true.

00:09:02.000 So when you see polls about how many people think Roe should be upheld, it's because they have a misapprehension of what Roe actually does.

00:09:08.000 And that is, again, by polling data.

00:09:10.000 So I'm not saying that the American people are rooting their support for Roe in ignorance.

00:09:16.000 They are saying that they are rooting their support for Roe in ignorance.

00:09:19.000 Again, that is what the polling data suggest quite openly.

00:09:23.000 And people do not know what Roe does.

00:09:25.000 And so the end of Roe is not going to do what people think it's going to do, which again is one of the reasons why there's not going to be a massive political blowback that Democrats are counting on.

00:09:32.000 Democrats are really, really counting on the idea that this is going to shift the midterm elections.

00:09:35.000 It is not going to for several reasons.

00:09:37.000 One is this reverts to state policy.

00:09:39.000 If you want to fight out abortion policy, you're going to do so in state legislative races.

00:09:43.000 You are not going to do so based on your senator or based on your congressperson, neither of whom has much control over abortion policy.

00:09:50.000 Two, the people who care deeply, deeply about abortion, that's relegated to two separate sides of the political aisle, and it happens to be a minority of both sides of the political aisle.

00:09:58.000 So you've got the pro-abortion radicals, And that constitutes a vast minority of the American people.

00:10:03.000 A very small percentage of Americans actually want abortion available until point of birth.

00:10:07.000 Most Americans are somewhere in between.

00:10:08.000 Most Americans want pretty heavy regulations on abortion in the last trimester, some regulations on abortion in the second trimester, and not many regulations on abortion early on in the pregnancy.

00:10:17.000 That is where the American people broadly writ are.

00:10:20.000 However, that is not even by state.

00:10:22.000 If you go down to Alabama, a lot more people are interested in banning abortion outright.

00:10:25.000 And if you go to Massachusetts, a lot more people are interested in abortion until you actually die of old age.

00:10:31.000 So that is not evenly dispersed.

00:10:34.000 But the people who deeply, deeply care about abortion are a pro-life minority and a pro-abortion minority.

00:10:40.000 And those people are already invested in these elections.

00:10:43.000 It is not that there's a bunch of people who've been activated.

00:10:45.000 There are only a few issues that really activate people in elections.

00:10:48.000 That is a new threat on the horizon.

00:10:50.000 Most people are not going to feel the new threat.

00:10:52.000 Because again, if you're in a blue state and you care deeply about abortion and you want an abortion, you're already living in a blue state.

00:10:57.000 The crimson red states are already crimson red.

00:10:58.000 They ain't changing.

00:11:00.000 So the idea that independent voters are so deeply invested in abortion, it's just not true.

00:11:04.000 Independent voters tend to vote based on the economy, as always.

00:11:07.000 They tend to vote based on, say, a new threat to their children in schools.

00:11:12.000 They do not tend to vote based on a hypothetical.

00:11:14.000 And again, Democrats are now asking them to freak out about a hypothetical in which not only does their state outlaw abortion, but then they also get pregnant through no fault of their own and decide that they want to kill the baby.

00:11:26.000 So it's like a triple hypothetical.

00:11:27.000 The state is going to do a thing it hasn't already done.

00:11:29.000 You're going to do something that was unexpected and then you're going to want an abortion. 0.99

00:11:34.000 So they think that you're going to shift your vote as an independent voter based on a triple hypothetical as opposed to...

00:11:39.000 The fact that, for example, you are now earning significantly less than you were last year because of Joe Biden's inflation.

00:11:44.000 Or because of the fact that the local school board has decided to cram down the idea that boys can be girls on your child.

00:11:50.000 Those are not hypotheticals.

00:11:51.000 Those are happening in real time.

00:11:52.000 So all of the Democratic wish-casting where this is going to shift elections, no, it really, really will not.

00:11:57.000 It really will not.

00:11:58.000 Just going to put that out there right now.

00:12:00.000 Again, Democrats are deeply invested in the idea that their most radical-held policy positions are deeply felt by the American people, and it's not true.

00:12:07.000 They tried this with Wendy Davis in Texas.

00:12:09.000 Remember, Wendy Davis was a state legislator and she was very, very angry.

00:12:12.000 The state of Texas was going to pass pro-life laws.

00:12:15.000 And she got up and she filibustered and she was wearing pink sneakers. 1.00

00:12:17.000 And it was just an amazing national story.

00:12:19.000 And then she ran for governor and she got clocked by Greg Abbott by one million points.

00:12:23.000 And she's not held elected statewide office since.

00:12:27.000 She's run for governor. 1.00

00:12:28.000 She ran for senator, I believe.

00:12:29.000 She lost both times.

00:12:30.000 She's been a complete non-entity.

00:12:32.000 People are not motivated to switch their votes in the middle based on abortion law.

00:12:36.000 They just are not.

00:12:39.000 So this is why when people cite these polls saying that a majority of Americans think the court should uphold Roe, that's because again, they don't know what Roe does.

00:12:47.000 Not only do they not know what Roe does, they don't particularly feel great investment in Roe, and the politically active feel great investment in Roe, but not a lot of other people do.

00:12:59.000 And as the polls suggest, it's what I've suggested, 57% of Americans oppose their state making abortions legal only in the first 15 weeks of pregnancy.

00:13:06.000 A simple majority, 58%, opposes limiting abortion to the first six weeks of pregnancy.

00:13:12.000 So basically, six in 10 Americans don't want heavy restrictions in the first trimester.

00:13:17.000 But as you move forward, if you move closer to pregnancy fruition, if you move closer to birth, then those numbers shift in the opposite direction.

00:13:27.000 And by the way, most are unaware of recent abortion restrictions passed in their states, which again demonstrates this is not top-of-the-heap stuff for most Americans.

00:13:33.000 This is according to a Washington Post poll.

00:13:36.000 40% of Americans say their state has recently passed laws.

00:13:39.000 38% say that their state has not recently passed laws.

00:13:42.000 23% say they have no opinion.

00:13:43.000 So that's 61% of Americans who either say their state has passed no law or they have no opinion on the issue.

00:13:50.000 One in three say their state should make abortion easier to access.

00:13:53.000 One in four say it should be harder.

00:13:55.000 And these are not numbers that suggest broad majorities sweeping through the land upset about all of this.

00:14:02.000 Because this is not a binary choice.

00:14:03.000 It's a state-level issue.

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00:15:28.000 So the Democrats are just reacting with absolute sheer panic, which demonstrates really how core abortion is to their entire worldview.

00:15:36.000 It's not just that they care deeply about the ability of a woman to terminate her pregnancy.

00:15:40.000 What they really care deeply about is a war that the left has waged on actual biology for decades on end.

00:15:46.000 The idea being that biology is some sort of barrier to entry for people who are not quite And therefore, we have to shape biology and get rid of the consequences of biology and treat biology as a grave evil.

00:15:58.000 And you see this in its fullest form with regard to the argument now made by Democrats that boys can be girls and girls can be boys for the sake of equality.

00:16:05.000 But this begins with the idea that somehow pregnancy is unnatural, that it is not an expected possibility that when you have sex, unprotected, that you're going to get pregnant, and that even if you have sex protected, there's the possibility, minute as it is, that you might get pregnant.

00:16:19.000 That somehow a pregnancy is a foreign invasion of your body, as opposed to the natural outgrowth of sex?

00:16:26.000 And that therefore, the only way to establish equality is to get rid of... The person who used to argue this the most, actually, was Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

00:16:33.000 So Democrats have argued that it's a right-to-privacy issue, which makes no sense.

00:16:37.000 They've argued it's a right-to-privacy issue since Roe vs. Wade, a horribly reasoned decision, as we went through yesterday.

00:16:43.000 Which argued that somehow a woman killing her unborn child with the help of a doctor was a privacy issue, which is kind of bizarre considering it now involves three people, one of whom will die.

00:16:55.000 But the Ruth Bader Ginsburg argument is really the more telling argument for the left, which is she said abortion was necessary because biology is an imposition on a woman.

00:17:02.000 Therefore, in order to even the tables between men and women, we have to make it so women can kill their unborn children. 1.00

00:17:07.000 And that was the argument Ruth Bader Ginsburg made. 1.00

00:17:09.000 And that again, it goes to the idea that life, human life is a subjective decision.

00:17:14.000 There's an entire democratic worldview that is embedded in the support for abortion.

00:17:18.000 And it carries several premises within it.

00:17:20.000 One, it is a matter of subjective interpretation what human life is because all of human life is a subjective interpretation.

00:17:26.000 As the court held in Planned Parenthood versus Casey, it is the heart of liberty to decide the mystery of human life.

00:17:31.000 No, that is incorrect.

00:17:32.000 It is not at the heart of liberty to decide what another human life means.

00:17:35.000 That is not correct.

00:17:37.000 If it were at the heart of liberty to decide what other human beings mean and what their lives mean, slavery would still be legal and so would genocide.

00:17:42.000 So no, that is not correct.

00:17:44.000 Murder would be legal. 0.98

00:17:45.000 Because there's not a murderer alive who believes that the person that they killed is someone who had the full right to life and then they just went ahead and murdered them anyway.

00:17:53.000 That's not the way that people act.

00:17:55.000 So there's a subjective interpretation of what human life is that Democrats are very deeply invested in because that subjectivity allows them to remold the utopia they want.

00:18:05.000 They're deeply invested in the idea that biology is subjective too.

00:18:07.000 So they can remold all of society around the idea that inequality of outcome means that there was some sort of inequality in the system.

00:18:15.000 And they are deeply invested, most of all, In the idea that there is no such thing as right and wrong, and therefore they can shape society however it suits them.

00:18:23.000 Subjective reality has to be obliterated and vitiated.

00:18:25.000 And that is exactly what they've done with abortion. 1.00

00:18:28.000 And they just ignore.

00:18:29.000 This is why pro-abortion fanatics, everything is euphemistic.

00:18:32.000 Everything.

00:18:33.000 Right to choose.

00:18:34.000 Right to choose what?

00:18:34.000 You have a right to choose to get married.

00:18:36.000 You have a right to choose to have sex. 0.95

00:18:37.000 You have a right to choose whether you use contraceptives.

00:18:39.000 You don't have a right to choose whether to kill an unborn human being.

00:18:42.000 That right does not exist.

00:18:43.000 It has never existed in the United States.

00:18:46.000 As a right?

00:18:47.000 As a moral right?

00:18:49.000 Not as a legal immunity, as a moral right.

00:18:52.000 Prior to Roe, no one even argued in these terms that you had a right to kill an unborn child.

00:18:59.000 The moral relativism runs all the way down.

00:19:01.000 And you can see this in how Democrats are freaking out about all of this.

00:19:04.000 So Joe Biden reacted yesterday to the prospective decision.

00:19:08.000 It's amazing.

00:19:09.000 Joe Biden, by the way, still has had no comments on the leak itself.

00:19:11.000 So you'd imagine the sitting president of the United States might have some comments on the fact that Supreme Court protocol was breached by somebody leaking in unprecedented fashion an entire draft opinion.

00:19:19.000 It's never happened before.

00:19:20.000 He had nothing to say about this because, again, according to the left, leaks are good depending on who's doing the leaking and what exactly is being leaked.

00:19:27.000 I mean, by the way, I'm not aware of a single major Democrat, not one, who's condemned the leak itself.

00:19:33.000 Which should tell you something about their respect for norms.

00:19:36.000 The great respecters of norms, again, not one major, you're gonna have to, spot me the Democrat.

00:19:41.000 Maybe there is one, and I missed it.

00:19:43.000 Spot me the Democrat who said the leak is bad.

00:19:44.000 You can't find a single one.

00:19:46.000 These are the norms protectors.

00:19:48.000 Donald Trump violated all the norms, that's why he was so bad.

00:19:51.000 Donald Trump was involved in a coup, that's why he's so bad.

00:19:53.000 Meanwhile, you have people Destroying Supreme Court protocol by releasing draft decisions in an attempt to overthrow the Supreme Court's decision-making process.

00:20:05.000 And then you have the Democrats claiming that they want to pack the court.

00:20:07.000 And then you have the Democrats claiming they want to kill the filibuster.

00:20:10.000 These are these great norms protectors over here.

00:20:11.000 Anyway, Joe Biden didn't have anything to say about that.

00:20:13.000 He did say that this was a radical, radical decision, which is amazing.

00:20:17.000 Again, the radical decision, according to the left, is let people vote on this issue.

00:20:20.000 That is the radical decision.

00:20:21.000 It is not a radical decision, however, to have justices simply take the issue off the table and make one rule for the entire United States about whether unborn babies can be killed en masse by the millions.

00:20:31.000 Do you think that this leak has irreverently changed the court?

00:20:36.000 We've never seen this happen before.

00:20:38.000 Well, you know, if this decision holds, it's really quite a radical decision.

00:20:44.000 Bye!

00:20:46.000 It's a radical decision, according to Joe Biden. 0.76

00:20:49.000 Now, not only is it a radical decision, I mean, this dullard, the language that he uses with abortion, he can't even make the abortion argument in cohesive, comprehensive, or convincing fashion.

00:20:59.000 It's pretty amazing. 0.55

00:21:00.000 He uses language he knows he shouldn't be using in the middle of making the argument for abortion.

00:21:04.000 So he says that this decision overturns the right to abort a child.

00:21:07.000 Wait, abort a what?

00:21:08.000 Abort a what now?

00:21:10.000 Here's Joe Biden.

00:21:12.000 So the idea that we're going to make a judgment that is going to say that no one can make the judgment to choose to abort a child based on a decision by the Supreme Court, I think goes way overboard.

00:21:32.000 The idea that no one can make a decision whether to abort a child based on a decision by the Supreme Court?

00:21:36.000 No, based on a decision by voters in their states.

00:21:38.000 And also, thank you, Mr. President, for acknowledging that you're ending the life of a child when you perform an abortion. 0.75

00:21:44.000 Really, thank you for that language.

00:21:46.000 They just, every so often, they just forget to use the euphemisms and it spills out.

00:21:46.000 It's amazing.

00:21:50.000 That yes, they would like to abort a child.

00:21:51.000 By the way, this is the Democratic Party position. 0.97

00:21:53.000 Not that it's an embryo or a fetus, but that all the way up to point of birth, it should be legal to kill a kid. 0.73

00:21:59.000 That is the Democratic Party platform position.

00:22:01.000 That is a far more radical position than the idea that life begins at conception and therefore deserves some legal protection.

00:22:06.000 If you're talking about radicalism, the radicalism, this is asymmetric polarization.

00:22:10.000 This is asymmetric radicalism. 0.85

00:22:12.000 It is deeply radical to suggest, as the Democratic Party platform does, that one minute before the baby enters the birth canal, he can plunge a knife into its skull.

00:22:19.000 Which is what the Democratic Party, this is their platform.

00:22:21.000 It's pretty amazing.

00:22:22.000 So, Joe Biden, he makes religious arguments in favor of abortion.

00:22:26.000 They're about as convincing as all of his other arguments.

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00:23:45.000 Okay, but that's not all Joe Biden had to say about the issue.

00:23:47.000 Joe Biden also tried to defend Roe on religious grounds.

00:23:50.000 And again, this discombobulated mess of a human being, his religious analysis is lacking, shall we say.

00:23:55.000 Roe says what all basic mainstream religions have historically concluded.

00:24:03.000 That the existence of a human life and being is a question.

00:24:09.000 Is it at the moment of conception?

00:24:11.000 Is it six months?

00:24:12.000 Is it six weeks?

00:24:14.000 Is it quickening like Aquinas argued?

00:24:20.000 That's unbelievable.

00:24:21.000 So basic mainstream religions have historically concluded that the existence of human life and being is a question?

00:24:27.000 No.

00:24:27.000 This guy's a Catholic by the way.

00:24:30.000 According to him, he's a Catholic.

00:24:32.000 Now, I may not be a Catholic, but the Catholic Church has been real clear on this one for a very, very long time.

00:24:36.000 So, either he is a bad Catholic, or he can't read. 1.00

00:24:39.000 One of those two things.

00:24:41.000 As far as the idea that it's the quickening, like Aquinas?

00:24:44.000 Okay, the quickening, which was the notion that you didn't know whether a baby was formed in the womb until you could feel it kicking, was because science was really bad circa about 1000, as it turns out.

00:24:56.000 Is it six months?

00:24:56.000 Is it six weeks?

00:24:57.000 By the way, there is not a major world religion of which I'm aware.

00:25:00.000 I'm talking about Islam, Judaism, or Christianity.

00:25:02.000 There's not a major world religion that suggests a quote-unquote woman's right to choose the meaning of the child in her womb.

00:25:08.000 It does not exist.

00:25:10.000 You'll see people who are liberal, left-wing Jews today arguing that Judaism is a pro-choice religion.

00:25:15.000 No, Judaism is not a pro-choice religion.

00:25:17.000 Judaism is a pro-life religion that allows rabbinic exceptions in particular specified cases.

00:25:22.000 That's a far more accurate take on what Jewish law provides.

00:25:24.000 Now, again, I'm not arguing that Jewish law should be the basis for American law or that Christian law should be the basis for American law.

00:25:31.000 I'm arguing that biology and human reason should be the basic.

00:25:34.000 for the basic predicate for for law.

00:25:36.000 And that is that human life clearly begins a conception that everything from that point on is a human life with potential, not a potential human life, a human life with potential.

00:25:45.000 And that it deserves legal protection.

00:25:47.000 But if Joe Biden is going to make religious arguments, then really, at some point, he might actually want to pick up, you know, a Bible or a book of Psalms.

00:25:54.000 Pretty amazing stuff.

00:25:55.000 By the way, in 2012, when Joe Biden was vice president, he said, quote, with regard to abortion, I accept my church's position on abortion as what we called a de fide doctrine.

00:26:04.000 Life begins at conception.

00:26:05.000 That's the church's judgment.

00:26:06.000 I accept it in my personal life.

00:26:08.000 I refuse to pose it unequally to devout Christians, Muslims, and Jews.

00:26:10.000 Well, no, but that's kind of like what Muslims say also, and many, many, many Orthodox Jews.

00:26:16.000 But in any case, Joe Biden being incoherent is just the way that it goes.

00:26:20.000 Now, what's amazing here, Is that Joe Biden also acknowledges that his entire career has been about protecting Roe.

00:26:26.000 Now, he used to say that he was pro-life in some ways.

00:26:29.000 No, he wasn't.

00:26:29.000 Here he explains that this is why he worked to destroy Robert Boer.

00:26:34.000 Robert Bork, again, you'll remember that he was nominated to the Supreme Court by Ronald Reagan.

00:26:37.000 And then Joe Biden was one of the key figures in lying about Robert Bork and slandering him as a racist.

00:26:42.000 And here he acknowledges that one of the reasons he did this is because this process has been politicized by the left.

00:26:47.000 Supreme Court nominations have been politicized by the left.

00:26:49.000 This is why when the left protests, oh my God, the Supreme Court is political now.

00:26:52.000 No, the Supreme Court just read the words of the Constitution, where you cannot identify anything remotely resembling a right to abortion.

00:26:59.000 You guys are the ones who decided that everybody who sits on the Supreme Court has to be a partisan Democrat who will do exactly the same voting job that Joe Biden or Nancy Pelosi would.

00:27:07.000 Here's Joe Biden admitting the quiet part out loud.

00:27:09.000 It doesn't represent who's going to vote for it yet.

00:27:14.000 I hope there are not enough votes for it.

00:27:16.000 It's the main reason why I worked so hard to keep Robert Bork off the court.

00:27:23.000 Oh, well, I mean, the reason you work to keep him off the court is because you wanted your political point of view enshrined into the Constitution.

00:27:31.000 Pretty amazing stuff.

00:27:32.000 And meanwhile, you have Barack Obama releasing a 719-word statement reacting to the leak.

00:27:39.000 And again, nothing in here condemning the leak.

00:27:41.000 There's nothing wrong with the leak, according to Barack Obama.

00:27:43.000 Totally fine.

00:27:44.000 Also, it's pretty amazing that he puts out the statement in conjunction with Mrs. Obama, right?

00:27:47.000 This is to give him cover.

00:27:49.000 Because the left will say, what does Barack Obama have to say about this?

00:27:52.000 That is a man.

00:27:54.000 Amazing, by the way, the way that the gender binary has returned in this conversation.

00:27:58.000 Remember, some men can get pregnant, according to the left, and some women... 0.99

00:28:02.000 Have penises, according to the left, but not anymore. 0.99

00:28:04.000 As soon as we talk about abortion, bam, we snap right back to biological reality. 0.99

00:28:07.000 Incredible.

00:28:07.000 They all become biologists again.

00:28:09.000 So Barack Obama issues a statement with Mrs. Obama because, again, a non-elected official like Michelle Obama, we clearly need her opinion.

00:28:16.000 And here is what they write.

00:28:17.000 Today, millions of Americans woke up fearing their essential freedoms under the Constitution were at risk.

00:28:21.000 Oh, did they?

00:28:22.000 Because some tens of millions of Americans have died under the knife over the course of the last 50 years.

00:28:29.000 And so they didn't have a chance to wake up fearing anything because they were dead, thanks to Roe versus Wade.

00:28:35.000 If the Supreme Court ultimately decides to overturn the landmark case of Roe versus Wade, it will not only reverse nearly 50 years of precedent, it will relegate the most intensely personal decision someone can make to the whims of politicians and ideologues.

00:28:44.000 Love this language.

00:28:45.000 Again, this is so, it's such a reversal of reality.

00:28:49.000 The pretzel logic these folks have to engage in is really incredible.

00:28:52.000 So I love, first of all, Barack Obama yelling about precedent.

00:28:56.000 Dude, what?

00:28:58.000 You?

00:28:59.000 Yelling about precedent?

00:29:00.000 You lit the White House up in gay pride flag colors after Obergefell, which reversed not 50 years of precedent, hundreds of years of precedent.

00:29:08.000 So don't give me a lecture about precedent, dude. 0.99

00:29:10.000 That's ridiculous.

00:29:12.000 And as far as the idea that, oh, you're relegating the most personal decision someone can make to the whims of politicians, first of all, I've noticed that you don't feel this way about, say, vaccination. 0.86

00:29:21.000 I noticed that you don't feel this way about, say, forcing doctors to perform puberty blockers And surgeries for children.

00:29:29.000 I notice you don't feel that way about the little sisters of the poor having to perform contraceptive care.

00:29:36.000 I notice that you don't feel that way about those personal decisions.

00:29:39.000 But also, this was relegated to the whims of politicians and ideologues.

00:29:44.000 They just happen to be sitting on the court, not subject to voters.

00:29:50.000 And then Barack Obama and wife continue, few if any women make the decision to terminate a pregnancy casually. 0.70

00:29:55.000 That's just a lie.

00:29:55.000 That's not true.

00:29:56.000 I'm sorry.

00:29:57.000 It's not true.

00:29:57.000 I wish it were true.

00:29:58.000 It's not true.

00:29:59.000 A huge number of women decide to terminate a pregnancy casually. 0.86

00:30:03.000 I wish on a moral level that that were true.

00:30:05.000 But the Democratic Party's moved way beyond this, by the way.

00:30:08.000 Like, he's now speaking the language of Bill Clinton circa 1995.

00:30:10.000 The safe, legal, and rare language.

00:30:12.000 The Democratic Party doesn't believe this.

00:30:14.000 The Democratic Party now believes you should shout your abortion.

00:30:16.000 There's nothing to be ashamed of.

00:30:17.000 It's something good. 0.99

00:30:19.000 There's a reason that idiot Hollywood star Lena Dunham once suggested that she wasn't a full woman unless she'd had an abortion. 1.00

00:30:27.000 This sort of language is dated. 1.00

00:30:29.000 It is antiquated according to democratic standards.

00:30:32.000 But the Obamas say, few if any women make the decision to terminate a pregnancy casually.

00:30:36.000 Again, the reason I say this is not true is because what the data show is that many, many women have multiple repeat abortions, which demonstrates they're using it as a form of birth control.

00:30:44.000 They're not using it as a form of emergency contraceptive care.

00:30:48.000 People of goodwill across the political spectrum can hold different views on the subject.

00:30:51.000 No, you don't believe that.

00:30:52.000 But what Roe recognized is that the freedom enshrined in the 14th Amendment of the Constitution requires all of us to enjoy a sphere of our lives that isn't subject to meddling from the state.

00:31:00.000 Oh, really?

00:31:01.000 Tell me about spheres of our lives not subject to meddling from the state Barack Obama.

00:31:08.000 A sphere that includes personal decisions involving who we sleep with, who we marry, whether or not to use contraception, and whether or not to bear children.

00:31:14.000 I noticed that this decision is not a reversal of Obergefell.

00:31:19.000 I noticed it's not a decision of Lawrence v. Texas.

00:31:21.000 It's not affecting Griswold v. Connecticut.

00:31:25.000 And as far as the decision on whether or not to bear children, I noticed that there are multiple decisions that come before that decision and don't involve the murder of the unborn.

00:31:35.000 Barack Obama and Michelle continue, as the court has previously determined, our freedoms are not unlimited.

00:31:39.000 Society has a compelling interest in other circumstances, for example, in protecting children from abuse or people from self-harm.

00:31:44.000 And the framework constructed by Roe and subsequent court decisions allowed legislatures to impose greater restrictions on abortion later in pregnancy.

00:31:51.000 But this draft decision doesn't seek to balance those interests.

00:31:53.000 Instead, it simply forces folks to give up any constitutionally recognized interest in what happens to their body once they get pregnant. 0.92

00:32:01.000 No, it forces them to go and vote in their state.

00:32:03.000 Again, he is perpetuating a lie, and that lie is that Roe bans abortion across the nation.

00:32:08.000 That is not true.

00:32:10.000 Under the court's logic, says Obama's, state legislatures could dictate that women carry even pregnancy to term, every pregnancy to term, no matter how early it is and no matter what circumstances led to it, even rape or incest.

00:32:19.000 The consequences of this decision would be a blow not just to women, but to all of us who believe that in a free society there are limits to how much the government can encroach on our personal lives. 1.00

00:32:26.000 Again, listening to this guy spout libertarian nostrums is ridiculous! 0.91

00:32:31.000 He's the most intrusive president in modern American history. 1.00

00:32:34.000 The hell is he talking about? 0.97

00:32:35.000 There's not a personal decision in your life other than abortion and where you put your genitals that Barack Obama thinks the government should not be involved in. 0.89

00:32:43.000 But the reason they draw the line when it comes to abortion and where you put your genitals is because that allows them to blow up the gender binary and destroy human biology and get rid of objective truth, the metric of which happens to be biological reality. 0.75

00:32:55.000 But that's the only line they ever draw.

00:32:58.000 He says, This will create illegal abortions that pose grave risks to health, etc, etc.

00:33:05.000 And finally, he says, a clear majority of Americans support Roe, yet we recognize that while many are angry and frustrated by this report, some of those who support Roe may feel helpless and instinctively turn back to their work or families or daily tasks, telling themselves that because this outcome may have been predictable, there's nothing any of us can do.

00:33:19.000 If that's you, we ask you to think about the college student waking up after her date, forced into unprotected sex.

00:33:25.000 By the way, the number of women who have abortion due to rape is exceedingly low by all available data, including Guttmacher Institute data.

00:33:31.000 Guttmacher is a very pro-abortion group.

00:33:34.000 Whenever Democrats use rape and incest as the exceptions, just understand that if you said to them, we will allow abortion in the cases of rape and incest, it's not like they would go back to being happy.

00:33:42.000 They want abortion in all cases because rape and incest represent far less than 1% of all cases of abortion in the United States.

00:33:49.000 Think about the couple that tried to have children for years, who are without any options when faced with the tragic reality of an unviable pregnancy.

00:33:55.000 Think of any of the hundreds of thousands of women each year who deserve the dignity and freedom of making a decision that is right for their bodies and their circumstances.

00:34:01.000 Well, but there is such a thing as right and wrong.

00:34:04.000 This is where the moral relativism comes in.

00:34:06.000 They say that it's their moral right, a decision that is right for their bodies, and only they can make a decision to kill this thing that has no outside interest.

00:34:15.000 Well, understand that when Barack Obama talks about competing interests, he's lying.

00:34:18.000 He doesn't believe there are any competing interests.

00:34:19.000 He believes the only interest is whether you can kill a thing in your womb, and that thing in your womb has no independent interest in life.

00:34:28.000 He says, we're not asking you just to think about these people.

00:34:30.000 We're asking you to join with the activists who've been sounding the alarm on this issues for years and act, stand with them at a local protest, volunteer with them on a campaign, join with them in urging Congress to codify, etc, etc, etc.

00:34:40.000 So the idea is activism solves this problem.

00:34:42.000 OK, let me just point out once again, this is not going to swing elections.

00:34:45.000 It is not.

00:34:46.000 It may have some impact in state legislative races.

00:34:48.000 It will have no impact on federal races.

00:34:50.000 None.

00:34:51.000 But Democrats think that this is their moment.

00:34:53.000 And here's the problem for them.

00:34:55.000 Because Democrats believe that people support Roe on the basis of Roe itself, not because they have a misapprehension of Roe, but because they love abortion, Democrats are now going to push for abortion until birth enshrined into the Constitution.

00:35:07.000 That is such a, it's an electoral loser.

00:35:10.000 But go for it, really enjoy.

00:35:11.000 Alrighty, coming up, the Biden administration, they are deploying their finest, their finest rhetoricians.

00:35:16.000 Kamala Harris is out there, again.

00:35:18.000 Man, they just give her the worst beats.

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00:35:20.000 I mean, they really do.

00:35:23.000 Or why don't you fix Ukraine, Kamala? 1.00

00:35:24.000 And now it's like, fix abortion, Kamala.

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00:37:03.000 So the Biden administration has decided to deploy their finest rhetorician.

00:37:13.000 We are talking, of course, about Kamala Harris, one of the most charming, brilliant, concise personalities in American life.

00:37:19.000 She's amazing at this.

00:37:20.000 So she put out a statement as well.

00:37:22.000 She said the Supreme Court has now confirmed the draft opinion that would overturn Roe v. Wade is genuine.

00:37:26.000 Again, notice not a single Democrat has a problem with this leak. 0.97

00:37:29.000 So all the norms people just remember, they don't give a crap about norms. 0.91

00:37:29.000 Not a single one. 0.91

00:37:33.000 It's just that Norms are just an excuse for them to do what they want.

00:37:36.000 Roe ensures a woman's right to choose to have an abortion. 0.99

00:37:38.000 It also, at its root, protects the fundamental right to privacy. 0.86

00:37:42.000 To kill an unborn child?

00:37:44.000 What is clear is that opponents of Roe want to punish women and take away their rights to make decisions about their own bodies again.

00:37:50.000 You know what the greatest punishment is?

00:37:51.000 The death penalty.

00:37:52.000 You know what you guys want to do?

00:37:53.000 Preserve the death penalty for innocent unborn children by their mothers and the doctors they work with. 1.00

00:37:58.000 That's crazy.

00:37:59.000 Republican legislators in states across the country are weaponizing the use of law against women. 0.99

00:38:03.000 And they're gonna try this war on women bullcrap that they tried in 2012. 1.00

00:38:05.000 It ain't gonna work. 0.71

00:38:06.000 It just is not going to work.

00:38:08.000 No one believes that protecting the unborn is a quote-unquote war on women other than people who are already indoctrinated in that belief.

00:38:15.000 And Democrats are, they're trying desperately to shift the topic away from the economy.

00:38:19.000 They're desperately trying to shift the topic away from crime.

00:38:22.000 They're desperately trying to shift away from illegal immigration.

00:38:24.000 And they're gonna go back to social issues and this claim that Republicans are going to prey on women in the night and all of this kind of stuff.

00:38:31.000 It ain't gonna work.

00:38:31.000 It just is not going to.

00:38:33.000 The rights of all Americans are at risk, says Kamala Harris.

00:38:35.000 Really?

00:38:36.000 My wife's rights are not at risk.

00:38:36.000 My rights are not at risk.

00:38:38.000 In fact, it turns out that the vast majority of Americans who don't have abortions, their rights are not at risk, actually.

00:38:44.000 It turns out.

00:38:44.000 And it turns out that the people who are having abortions, it's not their right to do so in the first place.

00:38:52.000 No one can explain to me why there is a moral right to have an abortion.

00:38:56.000 The moral right.

00:38:57.000 Forget about legal rights. 0.99

00:38:58.000 Explain to me the moral right to kill an unborn human being in your womb. 0.83

00:39:01.000 Explain how that's moral.

00:39:03.000 If the right to privacy is weakened, every person could face a future in which the government can potentially interfere in the personal decisions you make about your life.

00:39:09.000 This is the time to fight for women and for our country with everything we have.

00:39:13.000 Aw, that sounds like insurrectionary language to me.

00:39:15.000 Fighting like hell.

00:39:16.000 I still think that's insurrectionary language.

00:39:19.000 Kamala Harris didn't leave it at that. 0.69

00:39:21.000 She also decided that she was going to be one amazing rhetorician channeling another amazing rhetorician.

00:39:26.000 So here she is channeling Greta Thunberg.

00:39:27.000 How dare you?

00:39:28.000 How dare you?

00:39:29.000 Here is Kamala Harris being as charmless as normal. 1.00

00:39:33.000 Those Republican leaders who are trying to weaponize the use of the law against women. 1.00

00:39:40.000 Well, we say, how dare they?

00:39:44.000 How dare they tell a woman what she can do and cannot do with her own body?

00:39:50.000 How dare they?

00:39:51.000 How dare they try to stop her from determining her own future?

00:39:58.000 How dare they try to deny women their rights and their freedoms?

00:40:09.000 It is not your right to... This all relies, all of it relies on ignoring the fact that you are killing an unborn human being.

00:40:16.000 This is what it relies on.

00:40:18.000 On the deepest possible level, it relies on the dehumanization of a pre-born human being who happens to be your own child.

00:40:24.000 It's an amazing moral argument, and I'm sorry, how dare you, is not an actual argument.

00:40:29.000 You want to make an argument for why a woman's right to career advancement outweighs the right to life of the human being that is in her womb? 1.00

00:40:37.000 Do it.

00:40:37.000 Make that argument.

00:40:38.000 No more euphemisms.

00:40:41.000 The Democrats are kind of between a rock and a hard place, however, just on a procedural level.

00:40:44.000 So they don't have the votes in the Senate to kill the filibuster on behalf of abortion. 0.91

00:40:49.000 They don't have the votes for a constitutional amendment.

00:40:50.000 And so they're going to shout about it a lot and hope that people care, which is not going to work.

00:40:54.000 Chuck Schumer, the Senate majority leader, he also gathered on the steps of the Senate with all of his friends.

00:41:01.000 Look at this group of friends.

00:41:04.000 Man, it's an inspiring group of people out there.

00:41:07.000 And said the Democrats will fight this decision for as long as it takes.

00:41:11.000 We will fight.

00:41:11.000 We'll fight like hell, which means that they can't.

00:41:14.000 They don't have the votes.

00:41:17.000 This is a dark and disturbing day for America.

00:41:22.000 Last night, a report came out that a conservative majority on the United States Supreme Court is ready to overturn Roe v. Wade And uproot decades of precedent affirming a woman's right to an abortion.

00:41:37.000 Democrats are going to fight this decision all the way for as long as it takes.

00:41:42.000 We will not relent.

00:41:44.000 We will not give up.

00:41:46.000 We know history is on our side and we're determined to preserve this precious rights that are the bedrock of this great nation.

00:41:55.000 Oh, the right to kill an unborn baby is the bedrock of the country, guys. 0.92

00:41:58.000 It's not just an important right, it is the bedrock right is to kill unborn babies. 0.99

00:42:02.000 Any country that suggests that its bedrock right is the right to kill unborn babies, good luck with God on that one. 0.99

00:42:08.000 I mean, really. 0.70

00:42:09.000 I rarely invoke religion on this program, but it's rather satanic to claim that the bedrock right of a nation is the right to kill unborn human beings.

00:42:15.000 That's a pretty satanic notion.

00:42:19.000 It is our intention for the Senate to hold a vote on legislation to codify the right to an abortion in law.

00:42:23.000 will hold a vote. This is my favorite part. My favorite part is where he says, we're going to do something. We're going to hold a symbolic vote where we don't actually have the votes.

00:42:28.000 Good luck to you, sir.

00:42:29.000 It is our intention for the Senate to hold a vote on legislation to codify the right to an abortion in law. Second, a vote on this legislation is no longer an abstract exercise.

00:42:45.000 This is as urgent and as real as it gets.

00:42:50.000 We will vote to protect a woman's right to choose, and every American is going to see which side every senator stands on. 1.00

00:43:02.000 Um, so, yeah.

00:43:03.000 It is symbolic.

00:43:04.000 It is meaningless. 1.00

00:43:05.000 He's gonna do it anyway, because that's been his entire tenure as Senate Majority Leader, is to make people take stupid votes. 1.00

00:43:10.000 That's his thing. 1.00

00:43:11.000 Nancy Pelosi also decided to go nuts. 1.00

00:43:13.000 This devout Catholic with so many grandchildren, and she's doing this on behalf of the children. 1.00

00:43:18.000 Killing them. 1.00

00:43:20.000 She sounded off as well. 1.00

00:43:22.000 She went nuts. 0.90

00:43:22.000 She called it an abomination. 0.90

00:43:24.000 She went crazy over all of this. 1.00

00:43:26.000 Elizabeth Warren lost her crap. 0.99

00:43:29.000 So Elizabeth Warren, who is one of the great political failures of our lifetime, She showed up wearing her pink jacket, because pink means, it means womanhood! 1.00

00:43:39.000 Except for the gender stereotypes.

00:43:40.000 But it's, in any case, here is Elizabeth Warren, very, very deeply upset, very upset, that the Supreme Court did not uphold, or may not uphold, the quote-unquote right to abortion that exists nowhere in the document.

00:43:54.000 So she's as upset as anyone has ever seen Elizabeth Warren, other than that one time that she pretended to be a Native American and got found out.

00:44:02.000 The Republicans have been working toward this day for decades.

00:44:07.000 They have been out there plotting, terribly cultivating these Supreme Court justices so they could have a majority on the bench who would accomplish something That the majority of Americans do not want.

00:44:21.000 69% of people across this country, across this country, red states and blue states, old people and young people, want Roe vs. Wade to maintain as the law of the land.

00:44:34.000 We need to do that.

00:44:36.000 And we have a right.

00:44:38.000 Extremists?

00:44:40.000 We've heard enough from the extremists.

00:44:44.000 We've heard enough from the extremes, says Elizabeth Warren.

00:44:47.000 And then, she says the extremist Supreme Court is going to impose its views on the rest of America. 1.00

00:44:51.000 Again, this is a lie.

00:44:54.000 Untrue.

00:44:55.000 Not true.

00:44:56.000 The Supreme Court is saying you get to vote on these issues.

00:44:59.000 They have to lie in order to make you believe that this is the end of the world.

00:45:02.000 They have to lie in order to make you believe that the Supreme Court is now usurping power, when in reality, Roe was the great usurpation of power.

00:45:10.000 So they just reversed everything.

00:45:12.000 Okay, so Elizabeth Warren promotes the lie. 0.98

00:45:14.000 Here's Elizabeth Warren saying that the extremist Supreme Court is imposing its views on the rest of America.

00:45:18.000 Again, this is amazing.

00:45:19.000 You had the Supreme Court that literally said no one gets to sound off on abortion in their states.

00:45:23.000 That wasn't an imposition, according to the left.

00:45:25.000 Now the Supreme Court says you get to vote on the issue.

00:45:27.000 And Elizabeth Warren is like, this is anti-democratic.

00:45:29.000 The Supreme Court was designed to not take into account public opinion.

00:45:32.000 You are saying that they should have looked at the polling and then they should have voted in favor of Roe because you have lied to people enough that they polled the wrong way on the issue.

00:45:40.000 Man, Elizabeth Warren.

00:45:41.000 What a disappointment of a human being she really is. 1.00

00:45:43.000 I mean, truly.

00:45:44.000 Again, I knew her a little bit when she was at Harvard Law.

00:45:46.000 She used to write interesting books.

00:45:47.000 She used to be kind of a heterodox thinker.

00:45:49.000 And now she's just a down-the-line, narrow, pro-choice America, Bernie Sanders radical.

00:45:54.000 And she's unbelievably boring and bad at this. 1.00

00:45:57.000 Look, I feel really angry about this.

00:45:59.000 And what I feel angry about is that an extremist Supreme Court is going to impose their views on the rest of America.

00:46:12.000 Oh, so when they let people vote, that's imposing extreme view on the rest of America.

00:46:18.000 Meanwhile, Elizabeth Warren, great respecter of norms, she says it's time to kill the filibuster. 1.00

00:46:22.000 Now, she's been calling for this on pretty much every score.

00:46:24.000 She wants to kill the filibuster in order to preserve the killing of the unborn, of course. 1.00

00:46:28.000 When 69% of Americans in a democracy want to see something happen, you'd think we'd be able at least to get a vote on the floor of the Senate on that question.

00:46:41.000 But the filibuster prevents us from doing that.

00:46:44.000 In the same way that historically the filibuster was used to prevent us from getting to the civil rights laws, to prevent us from getting to anti-lynching laws, it prevents us from having a vote Oh, okay.

00:47:02.000 So we're just going to destroy that norm as well.

00:47:05.000 Meanwhile, it's amazing to watch some of the sort of mush Republicans on this sort of thing.

00:47:09.000 So Lisa Murkowski from Alaska, she came out and she said that this draft rocks.

00:47:15.000 It rocks her confidence in the court.

00:47:16.000 Rocks it.

00:47:18.000 Really, Lisa?

00:47:19.000 It rocks your confidence in the court?

00:47:23.000 Go ahead.

00:47:25.000 Roe is still the law of the land. 0.76

00:47:28.000 We don't know the direction that this decision may ultimately take, but if it goes in the direction that this leaked copy has indicated, I will just tell you that it rocks my confidence in the court right now.

00:47:52.000 Rocks her confidence as well.

00:47:53.000 Honestly, I'm with AOC here.

00:47:54.000 So AOC came out and then shredded Murkowski.

00:47:56.000 I mean, honestly, like, I'm on AOC's side here.

00:47:59.000 She said, Murkowski voted for Amy Coney Barrett when Trump himself proclaimed he was appointing justices specifically to overturn Roe.

00:48:04.000 AOC has a point.

00:48:06.000 She and Collins betrayed the nation's reproductive rights when they were singularly capable of stopping the slide. 0.83

00:48:10.000 They don't get to play victim now.

00:48:11.000 That's fair.

00:48:12.000 I mean, that is a fair take on Lisa Murkowski. 0.92

00:48:14.000 It really, really is.

00:48:16.000 Words that would have never left my mouth before.

00:48:18.000 A fair take from AOC.

00:48:20.000 But bottom line is this.

00:48:22.000 You shouldn't be surprised. 0.65

00:48:23.000 Roe was always crappy precedent.

00:48:24.000 Everyone right, left, and center understood this.

00:48:27.000 Meanwhile, Cori Bush is out there saying that not only should we abolish the filibuster, we should force pro-life Americans to fund abortions.

00:48:35.000 We need to see who's going to vote for it.

00:48:37.000 Let's put the Senate on record.

00:48:39.000 But when I think about what else the President could do, one option could be through the Food and Drug Administration.

00:48:47.000 The President could have the FDA issue regulations to expand access to medication abortion.

00:48:53.000 We need to bring that back into the conversation so that pregnant people could have access to a two-pill regimen safely and be able to end a pregnancy at home up to 10 weeks. 0.83

00:49:04.000 You know, what about the Department of Health and Human Services encouraging states to use their own Medicaid funds, of course, which are not governed by the Hyde Amendment.

00:49:12.000 Use that to cover abortion services.

00:49:14.000 So we have, there are options.

00:49:16.000 We need to talk about all of them.

00:49:21.000 Amazing.

00:49:22.000 Amazing stuff.

00:49:23.000 Again, and Democrats think this is a big political winner for them.

00:49:27.000 So, good luck with that.

00:49:29.000 By the way, the politicians are not even as bad as some of the people in the media.

00:49:32.000 The people in the media completely lost their minds.

00:49:34.000 I mean, completely, completely lost it.

00:49:36.000 They've lost it.

00:49:36.000 And I gotta say, the mush Republicans like Bret Stephens, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

00:49:41.000 Bret Stephens has a piece in the New York Times titled, The new conservatism, in which you're not allowed to overturn a bad Supreme Court precedent that allows for the killing of a million unborn children a year.

00:49:54.000 Like, slow clap for the conservatives who really think this.

00:49:58.000 Brett Stevens says, Dear Chief Justice Roberts and Justices Barrett, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Thomas, as you'll no doubt agree, Roe v. Wade was an ill-judged decision when it was handed down on January 22, 1973.

00:50:06.000 Ill-judged?

00:50:11.000 Was Dred Scott ill-judged?

00:50:13.000 Were these ill-judged decisions?

00:50:13.000 How about Plessy?

00:50:15.000 The mildness with which Bret Stephens takes a row.

00:50:17.000 It stood on the legal principle of a right to privacy found, at the time, mainly in the penumbras of the Constitution.

00:50:23.000 It irrigated to the least democratic branch of government the power to settle a question that would have been better decided by Congress or state legislatures.

00:50:28.000 It set off a culture war that polarized the country, radicalized detentions, and made compromise more difficult.

00:50:34.000 It helped turn confirmation hearings for the Supreme Court into unholy deathmatches they are now.

00:50:38.000 It diminished the standing of the court by turning it into an ever more political branch of government.

00:50:42.000 But, a half-century is a long time.

00:50:44.000 America is a different place, with most of its population born after Roe was decided.

00:50:47.000 Well, not thanks to the proponents of Roe, who, again, if you were born after Roe was decided, consider yourself lucky.

00:50:54.000 A decision to overturn Roe would do more to replicate Roe's damage than to reverse it.

00:50:58.000 It would be a radical, not conservative choice.

00:51:00.000 What is conservative?

00:51:02.000 It is, above all, the conviction that abrupt and profound changes to established laws and common expectations are utterly destructive to respect for the law and institutions established to uphold it, especially when those changes are instigated from above, with neither democratic consent nor broad consensus.

00:51:15.000 I don't remember Bret Stephens writing this column about Obergefell.

00:51:17.000 Weird.

00:51:18.000 Weird.

00:51:18.000 I don't remember that.

00:51:21.000 Conservatives for Roe. 0.96

00:51:23.000 Just pathetic stuff here from Bret Stephens. 0.91

00:51:27.000 If conservatism is about conserving the left's view of things like abortion, it ain't conservative. 0.99

00:51:33.000 If conservatism is attitude with no content, then it is completely useless.

00:51:38.000 And meanwhile, you have the actual hardcore left in the media losing their minds.

00:51:42.000 So CNN's Gloria Borger, she's like, are these justices politicians in robes?

00:51:46.000 So in other words, it is not political for Justice Sonia Sotomayor to be a wise Latina. 0.63

00:51:52.000 Who openly disparages the Supreme Court institution.

00:51:56.000 That's not political.

00:51:57.000 It's not political for Democrats to have as a litmus test how people will decide on particular hot button cases.

00:52:02.000 That's not political.

00:52:04.000 It's only political when you don't get what you want, I noticed.

00:52:08.000 The fact of the leak itself lets us into understanding that the court is political and has been political.

00:52:17.000 You know, this has kind of opened the Pandora's box on the question of what the court is really like.

00:52:22.000 Are these people really a bunch of politicians in robes?

00:52:27.000 And how divided the country is.

00:52:31.000 Oh, well, I mean, if they were politicians, they would have looked at the polls.

00:52:35.000 They didn't.

00:52:36.000 This makes them not politicians.

00:52:39.000 Meanwhile, the Democrats are really trying to push hard, particularly the Democrats in the media.

00:52:42.000 So you've got ABC's Terry Moran saying that you never know what they might do next.

00:52:47.000 What are they going to do next?

00:52:48.000 My God, the Supreme Court.

00:52:49.000 They might actually go back and overrule Loving versus Virginia and allow states to ban interracial marriage.

00:52:54.000 Oh, really? 1.00

00:52:54.000 That wasn't even based on the right to privacy, you idiots. 1.00

00:52:56.000 That's based on the Equal Protection Clause. 1.00

00:52:58.000 Wrong constitutional clause, you morons. 1.00

00:53:01.000 And then they try to, well, they might overturn Obergefell. 1.00

00:53:03.000 First of all, Obergefell is a bad Supreme Court decision.

00:53:06.000 And if we had a Supreme Court worth its salt, they would overturn Obergefell, but they're not going to.

00:53:09.000 They explicitly say, Alito says, I think three separate times in that decision that I read in nearly its totality on the air yesterday, that this has no impact on other cases of different lines, which is a clear reference to Obergefell repeatedly.

00:53:23.000 Okay, but Democrats know that deep down in the cockles of their tiny little Grinch-like hearts on abortion, they know that the abortion issue is not a winner, so they're trying to expand it out and say, well, you never know, the Supreme Court, they might go after gay rights, they might go after... Mm-hmm, sure, you're right.

00:53:35.000 The same Supreme Court in which Neil Gorsuch idiotically ruled that the Civil Rights Act of 1964 covers transgender people is going to now overrule Obergefell.

00:53:44.000 Mm-hmm, I'm sure, Terry, go for it.

00:53:47.000 The way Alito frames this, all rights that are not specifically mentioned in the Constitution, if they are not deeply rooted in our nation's history and traditions, whatever that means, wouldn't be legitimate.

00:53:59.000 That would include gay marriage, maybe even interracial marriage.

00:54:03.000 Certainly not rooted deeply in our nation's history and traditions.

00:54:06.000 So a lot of people are looking at this opinion.

00:54:10.000 A lot of people are looking at this opinion.

00:54:11.000 Well, I mean, they should be, but based on what it is, not based on what you guys wish that it were, because that way you would get to pretend that we are on the verge of fascistic takeover.

00:54:21.000 By the way, even if they did overrule Obergefell, you know what would happen?

00:54:24.000 Gay marriage would still be legal in a vast majority of states.

00:54:28.000 Anyway, Whoopi Goldberg, again, more of our geniuses in the media sounding off.

00:54:33.000 Here's Whoopi Goldberg going off on this one.

00:54:36.000 This law came about because people wanted people to have somewhere safe and somewhere clean.

00:54:42.000 It has nothing to do with your religion.

00:54:45.000 This is not a religious issue.

00:54:46.000 This is a human issue.

00:54:48.000 If you care about me as a human being...

00:54:53.000 You should know three things.

00:54:55.000 Getting an abortion is not easy. 0.89

00:54:57.000 Making that decision is not easy.

00:54:59.000 It's not something people do lightly.

00:55:01.000 It's not something that you can just do... So what?

00:55:04.000 It is a hard... Okay, pause it there for a second.

00:55:05.000 This argument always... So you've heard Obama make this statement.

00:55:08.000 You've heard Whoopi Goldberg make this statement.

00:55:10.000 That abortion is not easy.

00:55:12.000 Let me ask a question.

00:55:12.000 Why?

00:55:13.000 Why?

00:55:14.000 Why is it not easy?

00:55:15.000 Is it not easy because there's a countervailing interest here?

00:55:18.000 And that is the countervailing interest in the right of life of the child?

00:55:22.000 If that's the case, you're going to have to explain to me why it is that it's okay to do it.

00:55:27.000 Really.

00:55:29.000 Like, explain.

00:55:29.000 If it's not easy, you have to explain why it's not easy.

00:55:32.000 If you have to explain it's not easy because there's a countervailing interest in the life of the child, why do you still get to kill it?

00:55:38.000 No one can answer this simple question.

00:55:40.000 Okay, Whoopi Goldberg, first of all, I also love her take that Roe was about the safety and security of women getting abortions.

00:55:45.000 No, it wasn't.

00:55:47.000 No, it was not.

00:55:47.000 And it wasn't a law, it was a Supreme Court decision.

00:55:49.000 It was not, it was explicitly not a law.

00:55:51.000 It was not a piece of legislation. 1.00

00:55:53.000 Okay, let's listen to the rest of this idiotic rant from Whoopi. 1.00

00:55:57.000 It is a hard, awful decision that people make. 0.99

00:56:03.000 Okay, so, again, this is just, it's an amazing, it's an amazing statement.

00:56:07.000 It's a hard, awful decision.

00:56:09.000 Then why do you make it?

00:56:10.000 And why should you be allowed to make it?

00:56:11.000 I mean, really, that is the real question.

00:56:14.000 Meanwhile, Joy Behar says she sees fascism.

00:56:17.000 Again, listening to people who want to control every aspect of your religious life, how you raise your kids, your economic life, whether you get a shot, whether you put on a mask, lecture you about fascism, is really something.

00:56:29.000 It really, really is.

00:56:31.000 The only area where they want freedom is the freedom to kill the unborn. 1.00

00:56:35.000 And again, where to put your genitals. 1.00

00:56:36.000 These are like the two main issues for them.

00:56:39.000 They can make the case, the government shouldn't be involved in those areas, but you have to make that case.

00:56:44.000 Make it.

00:56:45.000 Really.

00:56:45.000 You don't get just a claim that you have rights to freedom to kill, particularly on that latter issue.

00:56:52.000 On the issue of abortion, where there's a countervailing... I mean, this is a point that Alito makes.

00:56:56.000 Even if you are a big same-sex marriage advocate, you can argue that there's a right to privacy that applies there because you're talking about private consensual sexual activity.

00:57:03.000 When there's a life of a third party at stake, that is a different story.

00:57:06.000 Anyway, here's Joy Behar talking about fascism.

00:57:09.000 A fascist talking about fascism.

00:57:11.000 We're not surprised.

00:57:12.000 We saw this coming.

00:57:13.000 My worry is that this is just the beginning.

00:57:16.000 Next, they'll go after gay marriage and maybe, maybe, uh, uh, the board, the, what is it, Brown versus Board of Education?

00:57:22.000 Yeah.

00:57:22.000 They already eroded our voting rights a little bit.

00:57:26.000 So I see some, I see fascism down the line here.

00:57:31.000 I see fascism.

00:57:32.000 Yeah, they're going to overrule Brown. 1.00

00:57:34.000 These people are insane. 0.97

00:57:35.000 Overrule Brown. 0.99

00:57:36.000 They're eroding our voting rights.

00:57:37.000 No, they're not.

00:57:39.000 No, they're not.

00:57:40.000 There's not a single suppressed vote you can name in the United States.

00:57:42.000 What the hell are you talking about?

00:57:44.000 They have to exaggerate because they can't make the case. 1.00

00:57:46.000 Yamiche Alcindor also joined the crew of idiots. 1.00

00:57:49.000 So here's Yamiche Alcindor. 1.00

00:57:50.000 Again, amazing.

00:57:51.000 Objective reporter Yamiche Alcindor, who is not objective in any way, shape or form.

00:57:54.000 Here she is.

00:57:56.000 I talked to another woman who had tears in her eyes and said that she went up to the volunteers to thank them for their work because she said her, as a woman who's an attorney who has the means and resources, that she'll always be able to get an abortion because she'll be able to fly to one of what they're calling the 13 safe states, places that might continue to have abortion, like California or New York.

00:58:14.000 But for a lot of vulnerable women, women who are poor, women of color, they will be forced to have pregnancies that they cannot afford.

00:58:24.000 Okay, they will be forced to have pregnancies that they cannot abort is a great way of saying they will have their children and not kill them.

00:58:31.000 The euphemisms, the euphemisms, the euphemisms.

00:58:33.000 Meanwhile, Neal Katyal, really, I think he sums it up for the left.

00:58:37.000 So Neal Katyal, who's over on MSNBC Legal Analyst, he says he wanted to cry.

00:58:42.000 He wanted to cry.

00:58:44.000 Well, maybe you should have spared a few of those tears for, you know, the dead kids.

00:58:50.000 Maybe you should have spared some tears for that one.

00:58:54.000 What is your first blast reaction, first to the substance of it, and second to this leak?

00:59:01.000 Honestly, I want to cry.

00:59:04.000 You know, I want to cry in so many different ways.

00:59:06.000 Ah, these folks are a delight.

00:59:13.000 They really, really, really are.

00:59:15.000 Well, you know, I want to end on an up note.

00:59:18.000 Planned Parenthood, one of their spokespeople, they came out and said, this is devastating for us.

00:59:22.000 Good.

00:59:22.000 One of the more evil organizations in American life.

00:59:25.000 Statement from Alexis McGill Johnson.

00:59:27.000 Let me be clear.

00:59:28.000 Abortion is legal. 0.99

00:59:29.000 It is still your right.

00:59:30.000 This leaked opinion is horrifying and unprecedented.

00:59:32.000 It confirms our worst fears.

00:59:34.000 While we have seen the writing on the wall for decades, it is no less devastating and comes just as anti-abortion rights groups unveil their ultimate plan to ban abortion nationwide.

00:59:41.000 Understand Planned Parenthood and our partners have been preparing for every possible outcome in this case and are built for this fight.

00:59:45.000 Planned Parenthood centers remain open.

00:59:47.000 Abortion is currently still legal.

00:59:48.000 We will continue to fight like hell to protect the right to access safe, legal abortion.

00:59:54.000 Um, but it's devastating for their team.

00:59:56.000 Devastating for their team.

00:59:57.000 So, um, I hope so, considering that you are involved in the mass murder of the unborn. 1.00

01:00:03.000 So, I hope you had a bad day.

01:00:04.000 I hope you do, because a bad day for Planned Parenthood means a very, very good day for kids who are going to get to live now.

01:00:09.000 Which I thought was a good thing, but not according to the left.

01:00:13.000 Alrighty, we'll be back here later today with an additional hour of content.

01:00:15.000 In the meantime, go check out the Michael Molls show that's available right now.

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01:00:26.000 The Libs lose it over losing child sacrifice.

01:00:50.000 Amazon promises to reimburse its employees for abortion-related travel.

01:00:55.000 And Skeet Davidson gets really creepy with Kanye's kids.

The Ben Shapiro Show - May 04, 2022

The Left’s Abortion Meltdown | Ep. 1487

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