The Ben Shapiro Show - The Lies Of The Fact-Checkers | Ep. 1097

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00:01:37.000 Okay, so before I begin, I just want to note that it is, in fact, the 233rd birthday of the Constitution of the United States.

00:01:43.000 On this day, 233 years ago, the signatories of the Constitution in 1787 got together.

00:01:49.000 They signed the document.

00:01:50.000 It is an incredible document.

00:01:51.000 And I want to take just a brief moment and read to you from my book, How to Destroy America in Three Easy Steps on the Constitution, because it's important to recognize why the Constitution is important.

00:02:00.000 So, Abraham Lincoln suggested that the Constitution was a frame of silver, a picture of silver around an apple of gold.

00:02:06.000 The apple of gold being the Declaration of Independence, meaning we have certain fundamental philosophies in the United States.

00:02:12.000 This philosophy of the Declaration of Independence, and it was protected by a system that was designed to ensure that the philosophy was enacted.

00:02:19.000 Here's how I talk about it in my book.

00:02:21.000 The philosophy of the United States rests on three basic principles.

00:02:24.000 First, the reality of natural rights, which pre-exists government, inalienable and precious.

00:02:28.000 Second, the equality of all human beings before the law and in their rights.

00:02:32.000 And finally, the belief that government exists only to protect natural rights and to enforce equality before the law.

00:02:38.000 American philosophy believes these propositions are self-evident, in the words of the Declaration of Independence.

00:02:43.000 The Founders attempted to implement American philosophy through a unique set of institutions.

00:02:48.000 The Constitution of the United States was a compromise document designed to enshrine American philosophy via a limited government system.

00:02:54.000 That constitutional system's enumerated powers balance the necessity for action embodied in the legislative power with the necessity to avoid tyranny.

00:03:02.000 The constitutional system's checks effectively balance the requirement of an executive powerful enough to respond to threats and enforce law with the requirement to avoid despotism embodied in checks and balances.

00:03:13.000 The constitutional system's federalism was constructed to frustrate national schemes, to subsume the character of local communities, while simultaneously preventing those local communities from becoming autocracies.

00:03:22.000 Okay, so to put that in maybe even simpler English, there are basically three things that the Constitution was designed to do.

00:03:29.000 One was to enumerate powers.

00:03:31.000 The government is only given a certain number of enumerated powers.

00:03:34.000 The Constitution lists them off.

00:03:35.000 And this was that the government did not have the ability to infringe upon your core rights as a human being.

00:03:41.000 Second, the constitutional system put in place these checks and balances between the various branches of the federal government so that you didn't have an executive branch that overran all of its boundaries, or a legislative branch that overran all of its boundaries, or a judiciary that overran all of its boundaries.

00:03:54.000 Again, the idea was that ambition was supposed to counteract ambition, and in doing so, your rights as an American would be protected.

00:04:00.000 And finally, the Constitution set up a federalist system, a federalist system that allows the federal government to do things that need to be done, but also prevents the federal government from infringing on the local character of communities.

00:04:12.000 And at the same time, prevents local communities from infringing on the core human rights of the citizens inside those local communities.

00:04:17.000 That's what the Constitution was designed to do.

00:04:20.000 And over time, as it was amended, increasingly did.

00:04:23.000 It is a document well worth celebrating.

00:04:25.000 And when you see so many people in the United States today who essentially see the Constitution as a vestige of a dead past, oh, it's this document that means nothing anymore.

00:04:33.000 Understand, there's a long history to that kind of thinking, going all the way back to the progressives at the beginning of the 20th century and the worst president in American history, Woodrow Wilson, that this view of the Constitution as a barrier to the things we want to do The Constitution is a barrier to a government becoming so powerful that it can cram down on you anything, including violations of your rights in the name of pure majoritarianism, in the name of the mob, in the name of your local community, without any sort of federal intervention.

00:05:00.000 And there was a balancing act that was attempting to be done by the Founding Fathers, and they achieved it in incredible fashion.

00:05:05.000 The Constitution is unbelievably durable.

00:05:08.000 It's one of the reasons why.

00:05:10.000 You see so many folks on the left today and they declare Donald Trump a fascist.

00:05:13.000 And you look at what Trump actually does and you say, how?

00:05:15.000 Like, how?

00:05:16.000 Name me the fascist thing that Trump is doing.

00:05:18.000 Even if you thought he had authoritarian tendencies, the document has been so robust that it has prevented that from happening, even if you're on the left.

00:05:26.000 And the same thing is true on the right.

00:05:27.000 Barack Obama, I think, had extraordinarily authoritarian tendencies.

00:05:30.000 It's why he talked about a pen and a phone.

00:05:32.000 It's why he talked about bending law pretty routinely.

00:05:34.000 It's why he militarized parts of his own government, the IRS, for example.

00:05:38.000 But the Constitution is robust enough to even hem in the most authoritarian characters who take up the presidency.

00:05:45.000 Now, that doesn't mean that we don't need to do a better job of electing our public leaders.

00:05:48.000 What it does mean is that we ought to recognize that the Constitution systems, those checks and balances, are crucial.

00:05:53.000 And in a time when exactly those things are coming under fire, it is important to remember why they are important.

00:05:58.000 Right now, we have ascendant wings in maybe both parties that see the fundamentals of the Constitution as a threat to the future of the country.

00:06:07.000 Who believe that enumerated powers prevent the government from doing what it is supposed to do.

00:06:11.000 Why can't we just do bigger things?

00:06:13.000 Why can't we just move beyond these enumerated powers?

00:06:16.000 I mean, these people lived 230 years ago.

00:06:18.000 The reason that the Constitution is still relevant is because human nature has not changed in the last 233 years.

00:06:23.000 The reason the Declaration is still relevant is because human nature has not changed since the Declaration of Independence in 1776.

00:06:30.000 But there are people who want to overthrow these fundamental principles, right?

00:06:32.000 They believe that enumerated powers are a problem because they prevent the government from doing the things we want to do.

00:06:39.000 And this is what you see from Democrats who say, for example, that the federal government should be able to cram down on you a health care mandate, or the federal government should be able to cram down on you federal education mandates, or all this stuff is beyond the scope of what the federal government was designed to do.

00:06:53.000 You see the same thing in the way that members of both parties seem to dislike checks and balances.

00:06:58.000 That they believe that the federal government ought to have no checks and balances.

00:07:03.000 Right now, you're seeing this mostly from the Democrats who want to get rid of the filibuster, who say that the Senate itself is constituted undemocratically.

00:07:09.000 Which, by the way, is the point.

00:07:11.000 It is the point, is that states were supposed to be able to check each other because they were independent bodies before the foundation of the United States.

00:07:18.000 The checks and balances were part of the system.

00:07:19.000 They were designed to create gridlock.

00:07:21.000 When you see people bemoaning gridlock at the federal level, gridlock was part of the system.

00:07:25.000 It was designed for gridlock.

00:07:27.000 But people don't like gridlock, except if their rights are being violated.

00:07:31.000 And then when it comes to federalism, you see the Democrats taking the position that states should either summarily be overrun by the federal government, or, if they're red states, and if they're blue states, they should be left to their own devices by the federal government.

00:07:43.000 As soon as you believe that the institutions of the Constitution are no longer important, you have left behind the philosophy that believes the Declaration is important because all of those mechanisms were designed to protect that core of gold, that philosophy that suggests that all men are created equal, endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights.

00:08:00.000 Alrighty, so, just thought that I'd sound off a little bit on Constitution Day because this is one of our great forgotten holidays, Constitution Day, September 17th.

00:08:07.000 Alrighty, meanwhile, We are seeing Facebook beginning to involve itself in censorship to an extraordinary degree.

00:08:17.000 There's a couple of stories that are coming out of Facebook that are truly disturbing.

00:08:22.000 And really it has more to do with the fact-checkers that Facebook has chosen to rely upon than Facebook itself.

00:08:26.000 They shouldn't have set up the system this way.

00:08:27.000 But the fact that Facebook set up the system so that left-wing fact-checkers could skew the system is really a horrible move and unjustifiable.

00:08:35.000 I'll explain in just one second.

00:08:36.000 These are some pretty wild stories in how social media can really screw with the political narrative on the basis of the left really lying.

00:08:44.000 The fact checkers are just, so many of these fact checkers are just liars. 0.94

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00:08:48.000 We'll get to that in just one second.

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00:10:12.000 There's been a lot of talk in the recent past about social media and its crackdown on the flow of information.

00:10:18.000 And I have defended some of these companies, and I have gone after some of these companies.

00:10:22.000 Of all the social media companies, I've defended Facebook the most because, frankly, it would be hypocritical for me not to, considering that Facebook has been of benefit to my company.

00:10:30.000 Considering we do tremendous traffic on Facebook?

00:10:33.000 But that doesn't mean that the system that Facebook has set up for fact-checking is not unbelievably skewed and actually quite dangerous.

00:10:39.000 I'll give you two examples today.

00:10:41.000 So Facebook set up this system.

00:10:42.000 The system is that if you get dinged by one of their designated fact-checkers, they will censor your ad.

00:10:47.000 They will remove your ad.

00:10:48.000 Well, what happens if the fact-checkers that were designated Our left wing.

00:10:52.000 So PolitiFact is not a fact-checker.

00:10:54.000 PolitiFact is a left-wing outlet.

00:10:55.000 It is like a media matters left-wing outlet.

00:10:57.000 It is designed to fact-check implications.

00:11:01.000 PolitiFact will do these fact-checks where they will fully admit right in the body of the article that what they are fact-checking is not factually false.

00:11:07.000 They'll just say that we don't like the implication, therefore we rate it mostly false.

00:11:11.000 PolitiFact is an overtly political outlet.

00:11:14.000 The fact that they masquerade as an objective fact-checker is a joke.

00:11:17.000 This has been true for literally years.

00:11:20.000 I remember several years back I cut a video in which all I did was just read statistics from Pew Global Polling on the feelings of Muslims globally about a wide variety of controversial issues ranging from support to terrorism to support for honor killings and all this.

00:11:33.000 I read all of this.

00:11:34.000 That was the entire video.

00:11:35.000 The entire video was just noting what percentage of Muslims in Afghanistan believed in honor killing and then saying, this seems like an extreme belief. 0.98

00:11:42.000 That was the entire video.

00:11:43.000 PolitiFact rated the video false because they said that my standards for extremism were not objective standards of extremism, which is not, in fact, a false rating.

00:11:52.000 That is just them saying they disagree with my definitions.

00:11:54.000 Okay, that's called a political argument.

00:11:56.000 PolitiFact does this stuff all the time.

00:11:59.000 And the fact that Facebook decided to use PolitiFact as one of its trusted fact checkers leads to perverse results like this.

00:11:59.000 All the time.

00:12:06.000 And there are now two separate ads that have been taken down after being declared quasi-false by Facebook.

00:12:12.000 So the first ad came from the America First PAC.

00:12:14.000 This is one of Donald Trump's super PACs.

00:12:16.000 So it's not related to the Trump campaign.

00:12:18.000 A super PAC operates independently of the campaigns.

00:12:20.000 This is not Trump himself.

00:12:21.000 This is the America First PAC.

00:12:22.000 It's run by Linda McMahon, who used to be the head of his small business administration. 0.99

00:12:25.000 Okay, so the super PAC ran this ad.

00:12:28.000 As you are about to hear, the ad is completely accurate.

00:12:30.000 There's nothing wrong with this ad.

00:12:32.000 The ad makes a simple claim.

00:12:33.000 Joe Biden is going to raise your taxes.

00:12:34.000 That's the entire claim.

00:12:36.000 PolitiFact rated the ad mostly false.

00:12:38.000 It was removed from Facebook on the basis of PolitiFact's bullcrap fact check.

00:12:42.000 So here is this ad.

00:12:44.000 Sometimes politicians accidentally tell the truth.

00:12:50.000 And it's true. 0.56

00:12:52.000 The New York Times says Biden's tax increases are more than double Hillary Clinton's plan.

00:12:57.000 Even the Tax Policy Center admits taxes would increase on all income groups.

00:13:02.000 If you elect me, your taxes are going to be raised, not cut.

00:13:05.000 Big tax increases crushing our recovery.

00:13:08.000 It could go higher.

00:13:10.000 America First Action is responsible for the content of this advertisement.

00:13:13.000 There's not a single word of that that is false.

00:13:14.000 In fact, the ad itself cites its sources, right?

00:13:18.000 Throughout the ad.

00:13:19.000 So PolitiFact, the ad launched August 4th.

00:13:21.000 It was then slapped with a mostly false rating by PolitiFact.

00:13:24.000 And then it was blocked by Facebook, like full-on blocked by Facebook.

00:13:27.000 Again, the ad directly quotes Biden saying, if you elect me, your taxes are going to be raised, not cut.

00:13:33.000 So what exactly, how exactly did PolitiFact rationalize its mostly false rating?

00:13:38.000 They accused the PAC, this is according to John Bickley, editor-in-chief of Daily Wire, of not giving the audience, for the 30-second spot, enough context and giving the wrong impression about what Biden meant.

00:13:49.000 So it's a context check, okay?

00:13:50.000 Nothing in there is actually false.

00:13:52.000 They say that it is lacking context, which normally we would call the basis for a political discussion or argument, right?

00:13:58.000 If you cite to me a fact and I say, listen, here's what you're missing.

00:14:00.000 You're missing this particular context.

00:14:01.000 It doesn't mean that what you are saying is overtly false.

00:14:04.000 It means that I believe that you are not placing it in the proper context, right?

00:14:07.000 That's how a lot of political conversations go.

00:14:10.000 But PolitiFact rated it mostly false. 1.00

00:14:12.000 So here is how their stupid fact check begins. 0.96

00:14:14.000 They say a new ad from a pro-Trump super PAC uses out-of-context footage of Joe Biden to claim that the former vice president wants to raise taxes for Americans across the board. 0.99

00:14:22.000 While the America First action ad presents that remark out of context, some tax experts estimate that Biden's plan would mean higher taxes on average for all income groups, but those increases would be relatively small for all but the biggest earners.

00:14:36.000 So in other words, they say that while it's true that Biden is going to increase taxes for everyone, he's mostly going to increase taxes for rich people, therefore the ad is mostly false.

00:14:45.000 That's insane!

00:14:46.000 So you're admitting that the ad is true, You just agree with Joe Biden's policy, and so you're going to declare the ad mostly false.

00:14:54.000 PolitiFact specifically cites a Biden campaign official as supposed evidence of the Democrats' intent.

00:15:00.000 The full exchange shows that Biden was saying his plan would raise taxes for people who, in his words, quote, benefited from the GOP's Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017.

00:15:08.000 A Biden campaign official said his point was that the wealthy, not all Americans, would not benefit from his plan.

00:15:14.000 But here's the thing.

00:15:15.000 Everybody benefited from the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017 because everybody received a tax cut.

00:15:20.000 So that's a bullcrap fact check.

00:15:22.000 It's just not true.

00:15:24.000 The fact check goes on to make a similarly flimsy case against the ad's inclusion of Biden warning his tax increases could go higher.

00:15:30.000 The supposed evidence of this being quote-unquote mostly false is the following full quote from Biden, quote, That's literally him saying he's going to increase taxes.

00:15:36.000 tax for their capital gains as their tax rate is.

00:15:38.000 And I think we should raise the tax rate back to, for example, I take it back to where it was before it was reduced.

00:15:42.000 It could go higher.

00:15:44.000 That's literally him saying he's going to increase taxes.

00:15:47.000 This ad is not false.

00:15:49.000 So PolitiFact declared it mostly false based on the fact that they actually agree with Joe Biden's policy.

00:15:54.000 you That isn't even the worst case of Facebook removing something based on a bullcrap PolitiFact fact check.

00:16:00.000 The worst case is there is a group, there's another group that is called the Americans Principles Project.

00:16:07.000 The American Principles Project ran an ad in Michigan.

00:16:10.000 This ad in Michigan targeted the governor of Michigan because the governor of Michigan backs the so-called Equality Act.

00:16:16.000 And the so-called Equality Act essentially abolishes the ability of biological women to compete against only biological women in sports.

00:16:24.000 The Equality Act suggests that if you are a man and you say that you are a woman, you should now be able to compete with women in sports.

00:16:30.000 Transgender women should be able to compete with actual biological women in sports, which of course destroys women's sports because now you have biological males competing with biological females. 1.00

00:16:40.000 In a second, I'm going to show you this ad.

00:16:41.000 Then I'm going to tell you what the PolitiFact check said.

00:16:44.000 This ad was taken down from Facebook.

00:16:46.000 This is unconscionable stuff.

00:16:49.000 If Facebook is removing ads and content based on the biased insanity of PolitiFact, Facebook needs to feel the heat on that.

00:16:58.000 I've been a great advocate of not regulating these social media companies because I don't want the government sitting above the social media companies and determining exactly what can and cannot be put on there because I don't want Elizabeth Warren in charge of that.

00:17:09.000 I don't want the Democrats appointing a majority of the FCC and then cramming down their perspective on what should be online on these various social media companies.

00:17:16.000 I'd rather let a thousand flowers bloom.

00:17:17.000 It makes it very difficult for me to make that case.

00:17:20.000 When companies like Facebook that control huge flows of information allow this sort of nonsense to happen, where they explicitly outsource their judgment to politifact.

00:17:29.000 At that point, they're just a left-wing source.

00:17:31.000 Masquerading as an objective source, which is not acceptable under any circumstances.

00:17:36.000 We'll get to that in just one second.

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00:19:12.000 Okay, so here is the other ad that was run.

00:19:14.000 Again, there is nothing that is inaccurate about this ad.

00:19:16.000 Nothing.

00:19:17.000 It was pulled down because PolitiFact, a biased source, is used in the algorithm for Facebook.

00:19:22.000 Facebook should change its algorithm.

00:19:23.000 There's no doubt about it.

00:19:25.000 Honestly, they should bar PolitiFact from being part of the program for gaming the system.

00:19:29.000 I think Facebook's core assumption is that PolitiFact is going to act like a fact checker, not like an arm of the Democratic Party, but apparently that assumption was incorrect.

00:19:36.000 It should never have been made.

00:19:37.000 I mean, PolitiFact has always been an arm of the Democratic Party.

00:19:39.000 In any case, here is the ad that was banned.

00:19:42.000 All female athletes want is a fair shot at competition. 1.00

00:19:46.000 At a scholarship.

00:19:49.000 At a title.

00:19:50.000 At victory.

00:19:52.000 But what if that shot was taken away by a competitor who claims to be a girl, but was born a boy?

00:19:57.000 Senator Gary Peters and Joe Biden support legislation that would destroy girls sports.

00:20:03.000 They call it equality.

00:20:06.000 Really?

00:20:07.000 That's not fair.

00:20:08.000 Not fair at all.

00:20:11.000 Vote against Gary Peters and Joe Biden.

00:20:13.000 They are too extreme for Michigan.

00:20:16.000 Okay, that's Senator Gary Peters, the ad is against it.

00:20:18.000 Everything about that ad is true.

00:20:20.000 Every single word about that ad is true.

00:20:21.000 It is, of course, true.

00:20:22.000 I mean, this has become the basis for lawsuits in places like Connecticut, where transgender athletes are competing against biological women, and they are destroying them. 1.00

00:20:29.000 Because it turns out that if you grow up as a boy, you have a different physiological structure than growing up as a girl.

00:20:34.000 Of course, of course.

00:20:34.000 I know, biology.

00:20:35.000 This stuff's super controversial.

00:20:37.000 So the science is real, crowd on the democratic side.

00:20:39.000 Okay, so here's PolitiFact's fact check that caused Facebook to take this down.

00:20:42.000 Their specific criticism is that allowing transgender girls and women to compete on the basis of their gender identity would create an uneven playing field for student-athlete and ultimately end girls and women's sports.

00:20:42.000 Quote.

00:20:52.000 Quote, that's a prediction we can't fact check.

00:20:55.000 That's a prediction we can't fact check.

00:20:58.000 So they overtly say they can't fact-check the position.

00:21:02.000 It doesn't matter.

00:21:03.000 Because they say that the ad is lacking context, it's missing context, Facebook removed it.

00:21:09.000 So PolitiFact says we can't fact-check the ad.

00:21:12.000 And Facebook's response is, okay, we'll take it down.

00:21:15.000 This is getting to be quite ugly.

00:21:16.000 And it's not just Facebook, obviously.

00:21:18.000 We're seeing this on YouTube as well.

00:21:20.000 A little bit earlier this week, Dr. Scott Atlas, who's been a guest on this program, Dr. Atlas had some videos on YouTube talking about COVID.

00:21:27.000 Atlas has been a lockdown skeptic since the earliest days, and he has claimed repeatedly that, for example, this thing has differential diagnoses based on whether you're elderly or whether you're younger.

00:21:41.000 He has said that there's not a lot of evidence that children are passing this with great frequency, for example.

00:21:45.000 It was a video of that that was taken, so YouTube took down that video, saying that it did not meet with the WHO's information.

00:21:52.000 Okay, well, if you had to abide by what the WHO says is true, standard, then saying in February that this thing was airborne would have conflicted with the WHO.

00:22:02.000 If you had said in late February, hey, we should all mask up, that would have conflicted with the WHO.

00:22:08.000 Using the W.H.O.

00:22:09.000 as the scientific gold standard, then removing videos that conflict with the W.H.O., which was a Chinese-run operation, essentially, in the early days of COVID, is crazy.

00:22:18.000 That's exactly what YouTube did.

00:22:20.000 YouTube put out a statement to the Wall Street Journal saying it removed the Atlas interview for, quote, falsely stating that a certain age group cannot transmit the virus.

00:22:27.000 The company was apparently referring to Dr. Atlas's remark amid a discussion about school reopening that children, quote, do not even transmit the disease.

00:22:34.000 That seems to have been an exaggeration for emphasis.

00:22:36.000 Dr. Atlas corrected himself in the next answer, saying transmission by children is, quote, not impossible, but it's less likely.

00:22:42.000 That is 100% true.

00:22:43.000 So what they are now doing on YouTube is they are acting as though everything that you say spontaneously is a term paper.

00:22:49.000 So if I exaggerate for emphasis, which everybody does, rhetorically speaking, every single day, everybody, if you speak off the cuff, you're likely to be banned by YouTube because you didn't footnote everything in precisely the way that YouTube wanted.

00:23:02.000 You get the same thing on Facebook, by the way.

00:23:05.000 My co-host, another host over here at The Daily Wire, Michael Moles, He's been dinged by Facebook because he said, for rhetorical emphasis, that there was, quote, no evidence that masks work.

00:23:14.000 He then followed up by suggesting that the Swedish health officials and the Norwegian health officials had basically said that there's not a lot of evidence that it works.

00:23:21.000 OK, so he emphasized and he overemphasized and he exaggerated for emphasis.

00:23:25.000 And Facebook dinged him.

00:23:26.000 Right.

00:23:26.000 This is the kind of stuff where it only works on one side, by the way.

00:23:30.000 If you are a Democrat and you say that Donald Trump is removing mailboxes from the streets to prevent mail-in voting, so to steal the election, they won't remove any of that crap, any of it. 0.95

00:23:38.000 Hey, here's Scott Atlas on Tucker Carlson last night saying, this is absurd. 0.71

00:23:44.000 I think this sort of move to censor people like me, and others, I'm not just talking about myself, really has precipitated a backlash here.

00:23:52.000 We saw it in the media now, lots of things have been written talking about what I've said and how outrageous it is that that stuff was censored, or even an interest by some of my former colleagues in censoring me by public shaming or cancellation.

00:24:08.000 These kinds of things are really destructive and harmful.

00:24:12.000 Not only is it wrong in terms of the truth, it's also instilling fear into the public.

00:24:17.000 Okay, so it's crazy.

00:24:19.000 I mean, you now have a complete grip on the flow of information.

00:24:23.000 So, last night, Tucker hosted on his show a Chinese scientist.

00:24:23.000 Another example.

00:24:27.000 This Chinese scientist has claimed that the virus was produced in a Wuhan lab and then released.

00:24:32.000 And now, I don't know whether that's true or not.

00:24:34.000 You don't know whether that's true or not.

00:24:35.000 YouTube doesn't know whether it's true or not.

00:24:37.000 Nobody knows whether it's true or not.

00:24:38.000 It doesn't matter.

00:24:39.000 YouTube took down the video.

00:24:40.000 And so did Facebook, by the way.

00:24:42.000 Here's Tucker Carlson talking about that last night.

00:24:45.000 It's clear that Dr. Li Min Yang is a serious person.

00:24:48.000 She is making a very serious claim.

00:24:51.000 So within a few hours of her interview last night, a video of the segment reached 1.3 million people on Facebook.

00:24:57.000 And why wouldn't it?

00:24:58.000 The coronavirus pandemic has touched the life of every American.

00:25:01.000 And justifiably, people want to know where it came from.

00:25:06.000 But Facebook still doesn't want you to know that.

00:25:08.000 So Facebook suppressed the video, presumably on behalf of the Chinese government.

00:25:13.000 Facebook executives made it harder for users to watch our segment.

00:25:16.000 Those who found the video had to navigate a warning.

00:25:18.000 The interview, quote, repeats information about COVID-19 that independent fact checkers say is false.

00:25:25.000 OK, this standard is the problem.

00:25:27.000 OK, which independent fact checkers?

00:25:29.000 Who are these independent fact checkers and why should we trust them?

00:25:32.000 You have to fact check the fact checkers because not all fact checkers are created equal as we have seen.

00:25:36.000 They will overtly rate false claims that are clearly true.

00:25:39.000 There's two separate ads just in the last week that have been removed that are overtly true and that the fact checker itself admits are basically true.

00:25:47.000 This is dangerous stuff.

00:25:48.000 It is.

00:25:49.000 And if these companies wish to remain independent, and they don't want everybody just rushing to the government for a solution, which, again, I am against.

00:25:56.000 I don't think the government should step in in these cases overall.

00:25:59.000 It's gonna be real difficult for the government not to step in at the behest of people who believe that their rights are being violated by social media companies that are, at the very least, quasi-fraudulently claiming to be open and objective participants in a platform rather than in some sort of publication.

00:26:17.000 And I'm against that sort of legislation.

00:26:19.000 But you gotta make it easier for me, guys.

00:26:21.000 You can't do this.

00:26:22.000 You can't make PolitiFact your outsourced fact checker and then claim that you are merely a platform and not a publication.

00:26:26.000 PolitiFact is a publication, and if you are just doing their bidding, you become a publication as well.

00:26:30.000 This is dangerous stuff.

00:26:32.000 Hey, in just a second, we are going to be getting to all of the latest on COVID because there are some crazy stories today out on COVID and the handling of COVID, particularly in blue areas.

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00:27:56.000 Alrighty, so.

00:27:57.000 Some news on COVID.

00:27:59.000 It is incredible that the treatment of COVID, people keep screaming from the rooftops, follow the science!

00:28:05.000 Sorry, this is the Democrats.

00:28:06.000 Follow the science!

00:28:07.000 But they don't actually follow the science.

00:28:09.000 In fact, they don't care about the science.

00:28:11.000 This has become overtly political.

00:28:12.000 It's been overtly political for months now.

00:28:14.000 And yet the Democrats keep claiming that they're following the science.

00:28:16.000 And I'm just wondering, How?

00:28:18.000 Now, I've been very critical of much that President Trump has done with regard to, with regards, or at least said with regard to COVID.

00:28:25.000 I think when it comes to what he's done, I'm not sure that he had tons of choices on what he's done.

00:28:28.000 It seems like everybody has failed pretty much everywhere because there aren't great policies when it comes to a global pandemic that seems to basically stick around until it burns its way through communities.

00:28:38.000 The basic logic of COVID is that it burns through communities.

00:28:40.000 All you can do is shield the sick and the vulnerable, the elderly, and then it just passes through and then it's done, right? 0.97

00:28:46.000 This is the lesson from Sweden, where they never shut down.

00:28:48.000 And their big failure was they didn't protect the sick and vulnerable at the very beginning.

00:28:52.000 If they had, Sweden would be widely perceived to be what it is.

00:28:56.000 a model for how to handle this thing. Everybody in Europe is now experiencing the so-called second wave. It is not a second wave. It is a continuation of the first wave. It's just that when you lock down, all you did was delay the inevitable, which is the spread of this thing through communities.

00:29:07.000 Now, maybe that's a good thing, right? Delaying it allowed for better therapeutic procedures.

00:29:11.000 It allowed for hospitals to figure out how to treat this thing better. The death in hospitals rates is down dramatically, right? Florida and Georgia and Texas and Arizona, they all got waves.

00:29:21.000 Those waves happened a lot later than New Jersey and New York, and that meant that they weren't having people lying on their back with ventilators.

00:29:26.000 They were flipping people on their stomachs.

00:29:27.000 They were giving them remdesivir.

00:29:29.000 They were giving them steroidal injections.

00:29:31.000 They had better treatments for this thing, so the death rates were much, much lower.

00:29:34.000 That's why when people say, well, Florida, Georgia, Arizona, Texas, look how badly they handled it.

00:29:39.000 The curves are not even comparable in terms of death.

00:29:42.000 Right.

00:29:43.000 New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Massachusetts, their curves are enormous in terms of death because this thing hit early and hospitals didn't know how to handle it. 0.84

00:29:50.000 Some of that is Cuomo's fault.

00:29:52.000 Some of it's not Cuomo's fault.

00:29:53.000 Some of it is just if it hit you early, then there wasn't much you could do.

00:29:57.000 But lockdowns are not the solution, particularly not endless lockdowns.

00:30:00.000 It doesn't matter.

00:30:00.000 Democrats are pursuing endless lockdowns today.

00:30:03.000 New York City announced that schools will not physically reopen for all students on Monday.

00:30:07.000 Instead, the city is doing a phased-in reopening by grade level through the next few weeks.

00:30:11.000 This is the second time Bill de Blasio, garbage commie mayor of New York, has delayed in-person classes.

00:30:17.000 Three days before the start of the school year, they announced this. 0.74

00:30:20.000 So parents had made their plans.

00:30:21.000 They'd figure out what to do.

00:30:23.000 And by the way, online schooling is failing everywhere it's tried.

00:30:26.000 Heavy, heavy percentages, like up to half, maybe more than half in certain school districts of kids are not even logging on to go to Zoom school.

00:30:33.000 Because honestly, you can't keep kids concentrating in regular school.

00:30:35.000 What, you think you're going to plunk them down in front of a boring screen?

00:30:38.000 Like my daughter is doing some Zoom school right now as we prepare for our move. 0.98

00:30:42.000 And she is a kid with an extraordinary attention span.

00:30:44.000 I mean, she, you know, she's brilliant.

00:30:46.000 She's going into first grade.

00:30:48.000 She reads at fourth grade.

00:30:48.000 Well, it doesn't matter.

00:30:49.000 She's still easily distracted because she's literally sitting there looking at a screen while the teacher's walking around the classroom dealing with, it's kind of half in class, half Zoom school.

00:30:57.000 And that's a problem.

00:30:58.000 This stuff does not work.

00:30:59.000 Okay?

00:30:59.000 Zoom school is not good.

00:31:01.000 It is not good.

00:31:02.000 The only way that it works is if basically you're homeschooling your kid and you're just using the Zoom as a supplement.

00:31:07.000 That is the only way that it works.

00:31:09.000 And parents have built their lives around this stuff.

00:31:12.000 Parents still have to work.

00:31:13.000 Parents still have to have lives.

00:31:14.000 I mean, school is about a couple of things.

00:31:17.000 Yes, it's outsourcing the education, but it's also outsourcing the daycare.

00:31:20.000 Everybody understands what school is.

00:31:22.000 Bill de Blasio, three days before the start of school, cancelled it in New York City.

00:31:26.000 There is no curve in New York City.

00:31:28.000 Because everybody died in New York City.

00:31:30.000 It burned through.

00:31:32.000 It burned through New York City.

00:31:33.000 The transmission rate in New York City is well below 1%.

00:31:36.000 It's extremely low.

00:31:37.000 The number of positive tests in Manhattan is nearly zero.

00:31:41.000 The number of deaths in Manhattan is zero.

00:31:44.000 And yet they're still not reopening the schools, which again, are not a main vector of transmission anywhere in the world.

00:31:48.000 They are not.

00:31:49.000 There is no evidence.

00:31:49.000 I mean, I mean this seriously.

00:31:51.000 There is no evidence that schools are main vectors of transmission.

00:31:55.000 That does not mean COVID can't be transmitted at a school.

00:31:59.000 It does mean that the chief vectors of transmission, so far as we have seen, are not in schools.

00:32:03.000 And this is true across Europe. 0.97

00:32:04.000 It's true pretty much everywhere, which is why you're having to see all of these idiotic headlines declaring teachers are getting COVID. 0.96

00:32:10.000 And then you read the story and it turns out the teacher got COVID three weeks before a school reopened. 0.95

00:32:13.000 There was an AP story that cited this, right?

00:32:16.000 That said, oh, look at these three teachers.

00:32:17.000 They died from COVID.

00:32:19.000 All three of them had gotten COVID from places that were not in school.

00:32:23.000 I'm reading you the stats from Manhattan.

00:32:25.000 Here are the stats from Manhattan as of yesterday.

00:32:27.000 This is worldometers.info, which is, I believe, the Johns Hopkins University information.

00:32:31.000 Manhattan, which is a population of 1.6 million, is Manhattan County.

00:32:37.000 You ready for this?

00:32:38.000 Here's how many positive COVID tests they had yesterday.

00:32:41.000 Positive COVID tests yesterday.

00:32:44.000 In a county of 1.6 million people.

00:32:46.000 How many new deaths did they have yesterday?

00:32:49.000 Zero.

00:32:50.000 Zero! 0.90

00:32:52.000 Yesterday.

00:32:53.000 And Bill de Blasio is shutting down all of the schools.

00:32:56.000 They're not physically reopening.

00:32:58.000 He said he spoke for hours yesterday with the head of the Principals and Teachers Union, who said schools are not ready to reopen.

00:33:03.000 They've been saying this for many weeks.

00:33:06.000 The mayor said the information flow about exactly what was needed, about exactly what was needed, where it needed to be improved.

00:33:13.000 Okay, so he says that many outer borough families are pragmatic and understand the realities of life.

00:33:18.000 He says, I feel for any parent that has to make new arrangements.

00:33:20.000 I know people will do what they have to do.

00:33:23.000 He declines to apologize to New York City families for the last minute change.

00:33:26.000 This is anti-scientific nonsense. 0.99

00:33:28.000 It is anti-scientific crap. 1.00

00:33:30.000 Bill de Blasio is a garbage, garbage mayor. 1.00

00:33:32.000 My goodness, he is a garbage mayor. 1.00

00:33:35.000 Wild. 0.99

00:33:37.000 Okay, and what we are also seeing is that the party of science is covering up the science in many cases.

00:33:41.000 So we've been hearing from the media over and over and over again that the real bad guy in all of this, of course, is Ron DeSantis in Florida.

00:33:48.000 Now, let's be clear, the dashboard for Florida when it comes to COVID info is maybe the most transparent dashboard anywhere in the country.

00:33:54.000 They've been extremely transparent about their information in Florida.

00:33:58.000 You know where they weren't quite so forthcoming about their information?

00:34:02.000 In the Daily Wire's new home city of Nashville.

00:34:04.000 According to Fox17.com, this is an insane story.

00:34:07.000 The coronavirus cases on lower Broadway may have been so low that the mayor's office and metro health department decided to keep it secret.

00:34:16.000 Okay, so the claim from the left is that Republican governors and mayors have been covering up deaths and cases.

00:34:21.000 There's not evidence of this.

00:34:23.000 There is now evidence that in Nashville, the mayor's office was covering up the fact that bars and restaurants were not vectors of transmission.

00:34:30.000 So they could justify shutting down the bars and restaurants.

00:34:32.000 They literally put thousands of people out of work in order to, and then covered up the data suggesting it was unnecessary.

00:34:38.000 This is an insane story.

00:34:40.000 Emails between the mayor's senior advisor and the health department reveal only a partial picture, but what they reveal is disturbing.

00:34:46.000 The discussion involves the low number of coronavirus cases emerging from bars and restaurants and how to handle that.

00:34:51.000 And most disturbingly, how to keep it from the public.

00:34:53.000 On June 30th, contact tracing was given a small view of coronavirus clusters.

00:34:58.000 Construction and nursing homes were found to be causing problems with more than a thousand cases traced to each category, which makes sense.

00:35:04.000 I mean, we know the nursing homes are a chief factor.

00:35:06.000 We also know that contract workers who are working in close proximity with each other tend to spread it.

00:35:12.000 Bars and restaurants reported just 22 cases.

00:35:15.000 Leslie Waller from the health department asked, this isn't going to be publicly released, right?

00:35:19.000 Just info for the mayor's office.

00:35:20.000 Correct, not for public consumption, writes senior advisor Benjamin Eagles.

00:35:24.000 A month later, the health department was asked point blank about the rumor there were only 80 cases in all of Nashville traced to bars and restaurants.

00:35:32.000 Reporter Nate Rao asked, the figure you gave of more than 80 does lead to a natural question.

00:35:36.000 If there have been over 20,000 positive cases of COVID-19 in Davidson and only 80 or so are traced to restaurants and bars, doesn't that mean restaurants and bars aren't a very big problem?

00:35:46.000 Health Department official Brian Todd asked five health department officials, please advise how you recommend I respond.

00:35:53.000 The name at the top of the response is clipped, but here is the answer, quote, my two cents.

00:35:57.000 We have certainly refused to give counts per bar because those numbers are low per site.

00:36:02.000 We could still release the total, though, and then a response to the over 80 could be that because the number is increasing all the time and we don't want to say a specific number.

00:36:10.000 Neither the health department nor the mayor's office would confirm the authenticity of the emails, but a council member named Steve Glover had a Metro staff attorney inquire.

00:36:16.000 Here was the official answer.

00:36:18.000 I was able to get verifications from the mayor's office and the Department of Health.

00:36:21.000 These emails are real.

00:36:23.000 Glover says they're fabricating information.

00:36:25.000 They've blown their entire credibility.

00:36:27.000 It's gone.

00:36:27.000 I don't trust a thing they say going forward.

00:36:29.000 Nothing.

00:36:30.000 He says we raised taxes 34%.

00:36:31.000 We put hundreds, literally thousands of people out of work that are now worried about losing their homes, their apartments.

00:36:37.000 And we did it on bogus data.

00:36:38.000 That should be illegal.

00:36:40.000 Yes, it damn well should be. 0.89

00:36:42.000 It damn well should be. 0.91

00:36:43.000 You want to build trust with the public? 0.91

00:36:44.000 You know what you don't do?

00:36:45.000 Lie to them about the vectors of transmission.

00:36:48.000 Schools are not main vectors of transmission.

00:36:51.000 Hey, we don't know about bars and restaurants, broadly speaking.

00:36:53.000 What we do know is that in Nashville they covered up whatever data they did have.

00:36:56.000 How are you supposed to trust public officials when they're overtly lying to you?

00:37:00.000 That's crazy.

00:37:02.000 And then these same people will be like, the science says lockdowns are necessary.

00:37:05.000 The science, the science.

00:37:06.000 And then the same people will try to Andrew Cuomo at the DNC to proclaim that he did a wonderful job in coffin-covered New York.

00:37:15.000 Incredible.

00:37:16.000 And we'll get to more of the science is real gang on COVID-19 in just a second because Joe Biden gave a big speech about science being real.

00:37:22.000 Science being real!

00:37:24.000 We'll get to that.

00:37:25.000 In just one second.

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00:38:43.000 Okay, more on COVID-19 and the science is real party.

00:38:47.000 We'll get to that in just one second.

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00:40:27.000 Alrighty, so Joe Biden, the party of science.

00:40:37.000 So yesterday, he gives a speech about vaccines.

00:40:39.000 And in the middle of the speech, he basically says, I like vaccines and I like science, but I don't like Trump.

00:40:44.000 And I don't like Trump.

00:40:45.000 And that means that I'm not going to trust a vaccine, but maybe I will trust a vaccine, but maybe I won't.

00:40:49.000 And then he fell asleep because that's what he does in the middle of his speeches.

00:40:52.000 The Harris-Biden campaign moving forward with alacrity.

00:40:54.000 Here was Joe Biden yesterday.

00:40:55.000 So let me be clear.

00:40:58.000 I trust vaccines.

00:41:00.000 I trust scientists.

00:41:02.000 But I don't trust Donald Trump.

00:41:06.000 And at this moment, the American people can't either.

00:41:10.000 So Donald Trump is not actually running the vaccine development.

00:41:13.000 Nor is he forcing procedural changes at the FDA.

00:41:18.000 This is actually kind of dangerous.

00:41:19.000 What we have seen in polls is that more and more Americans are refusing to take the vaccine, even if it's developed.

00:41:24.000 So if you actually want this thing to come to an end, what you really need is vulnerable Americans to take the vaccine.

00:41:28.000 I don't know that you need children to take the vaccine.

00:41:30.000 The reason I say that is because if kids get it, Who cares?

00:41:34.000 Kids are not dying from this.

00:41:35.000 Period.

00:41:36.000 The number of kids who have died from this is in low double digits in a country of 330 million people.

00:41:36.000 End of story.

00:41:41.000 But if you are elderly, if you're at risk, if you have a pre-existing condition, if you have diabetes or something, then getting the vaccine is pretty damned important.

00:41:48.000 And you would like for people who are generally healthy to also get the vaccine so they don't become vectors of transmission because adults do transmit this to adults.

00:41:55.000 The evidence is that kids don't transmit it quite as much or in as severe numbers as adults.

00:41:59.000 So what you don't want to do is undermine the vaccine.

00:42:02.000 Party of Science should understand this.

00:42:03.000 After all, science is real. 1.00

00:42:05.000 They even put it on their stupid lawn signs. 0.99

00:42:07.000 Okay, except that now you have Joe Biden openly questioning whether, if a vaccine is developed under the Trump administration, people should take it. 1.00

00:42:15.000 And the polls are reflecting this.

00:42:16.000 In early May, most Americans, 55%, said they would get vaccinated for COVID-19 if and when a vaccine becomes available.

00:42:22.000 Now, four months later, less than one-third of Americans, 32%, say they plan to get vaccinated.

00:42:28.000 That is a 23-point decline that is being overtly pushed by the Democratic Party and the members of the media.

00:42:34.000 The Science Is Real Party is anti-vaccine if Trump develops a vaccine, because it might be good for Trump.

00:42:38.000 This is just the denial of reality.

00:42:40.000 This is a common part of the denial of reality for so many members of the Democratic Party.

00:42:45.000 If something good happens and Trump is president, it wasn't good.

00:42:48.000 That's the way the thinking goes.

00:42:49.000 Seriously, the newer skeptics tend to be Democrats who could have predicted this.

00:42:53.000 According to Yahoo News and YouGov, they've consistently found a hardline group of anti-vaxxers who say they will not get vaccinated no matter what.

00:43:00.000 It's about 20% of the population.

00:43:02.000 They're generally concentrated more on the right.

00:43:03.000 But while the number of Republicans who say they would get vaccinated has declined 14 points from May, from 47% to 33, the corresponding number of Democrats has plummeted twice as much, from 70% to 42% over the same period of time.

00:43:17.000 So the science is, I am very pro-vaccination, the science is real party is undermining American faith in vaccines.

00:43:25.000 Again, because it might redound to Trump's benefit if people actually were to take the vaccine.

00:43:29.000 And so you have Joe Biden overtly saying, well, I like vaccines and I like science, but I don't like Donald Trump.

00:43:34.000 What does that have to do with anything?

00:43:35.000 If vaccines were developed under Barack Obama, I would take them.

00:43:38.000 Like, what the hell are we talking about here? 0.80

00:43:39.000 I don't think that Barack Obama would deliberately put out— I really dislike Barack Obama. 0.91

00:43:44.000 I don't think Barack Obama would deliberately put out a faulty vaccine to kill people. 0.64

00:43:47.000 Like, what the hell are you talking about here?

00:43:50.000 Meanwhile, what we are learning from the Science is Real party is that vaccines are bad or questionable if developed under Trump, but masks are very good.

00:43:58.000 Now again, the evidence on masks is mixed.

00:44:00.000 It is mixed.

00:44:01.000 There are studies that suggest that masks are useful, if particularly you're in populated areas.

00:44:06.000 And they're mostly useful not to you, they're useful for protecting other people.

00:44:09.000 So you sneeze, you're wearing a mask, instead of it going everywhere, now it just goes mostly into the mask.

00:44:14.000 It gets outside the mask a little bit, but mostly it goes into the mask.

00:44:16.000 This is why I have long been a proponent of, if you are in a crowded area, When you're in an area where people are vulnerable or elderly, you should wear a mask.

00:44:23.000 My parents, when they come over to my house, they wear masks.

00:44:26.000 Like, I'm a mask proponent. 0.85

00:44:28.000 But to pretend that there is no mixed evidence on this is very silly.

00:44:32.000 The Netherlands, Sweden, all of the Scandinavian countries do not mask up.

00:44:36.000 The masking rate in Scandinavia is below 10%.

00:44:38.000 The masking rate in Italy is close to 90%.

00:44:41.000 Italy got whomped.

00:44:42.000 The Netherlands did not.

00:44:44.000 Not nearly in the same numbers.

00:44:45.000 Okay, so the evidence is mixed, right?

00:44:48.000 We can say that, like you can be pro-mask and also acknowledge that the evidence is mixed as to the efficacy of mask adoption of masks, particularly if people are not wearing it properly.

00:44:56.000 Like my wife, when she was in medical school, as I've said, they actually had full courses.

00:45:00.000 They had like a full seminar on how to properly don PPE, personal protective equipment.

00:45:04.000 If you put on the mask wrong, it's a problem.

00:45:06.000 If you put the mask below your nose, that is a problem.

00:45:08.000 You see all these videos of people in crowds and people are cheering them for wearing the mask and they've got the mask below the nose.

00:45:13.000 That's not doing anything. 1.00

00:45:14.000 You breathe through your nose, idiots. 1.00

00:45:16.000 If you actually want the mask to work, you gotta put it up above your nose. 1.00

00:45:19.000 You see people who are... I still see tons of people wearing neck gaiters.

00:45:23.000 There's a study from the CDC that came out and said neck gaiters are worse than nothing.

00:45:26.000 Because neck gaiters actually encourage people to violate social distancing and they actually aerosolize stuff better because if you sneeze into a neck gaiter, then actually it explodes out.

00:45:38.000 But half the population is still wearing neck gaiters.

00:45:41.000 So all of this is to say that when people keep talking about masks as opposed to a vaccine, the answer is both and, right?

00:45:48.000 We want a vaccine.

00:45:49.000 And also, if you're in a crowded area, you should wear a mask.

00:45:51.000 But instead, you got Joe Biden being like, I don't trust this Trump vaccine.

00:45:54.000 I don't trust it at all.

00:45:55.000 But masks, masks, masks, masks, masks.

00:45:57.000 Now, here's the reality.

00:45:59.000 Everywhere the virus has gotten bad, people mask up.

00:46:02.000 There's lots of data to show this.

00:46:04.000 When the virus got bad in Florida, people masked at a higher rate.

00:46:07.000 When the virus got bad in New York, people masked at a higher rate because they thought that it was going to protect them because people act in self-preserving fashion.

00:46:13.000 It doesn't matter to Joe Biden, though, because for Joe Biden, it's really about the virtue signaling of suggesting he's going to mandate mask wearing because you can't trust your neighbor.

00:46:21.000 You can't trust your neighbor.

00:46:23.000 Now, I wonder how many people really believe that they cannot trust their neighbor.

00:46:26.000 And if they really believe that, maybe you shouldn't be out in public places with neighbors who are like that.

00:46:30.000 But Joe Biden is really putting heavy focus on the mask and he's performing serious alarmism in the process.

00:46:36.000 He's really banking on COVID getting a lot worse before the election.

00:46:40.000 You can tell he is.

00:46:41.000 And so Biden now is trying to proclaim that his legal team thinks he can push a nationwide mask mandate.

00:46:46.000 There is no constitutional authority to do this.

00:46:48.000 He's changing his tune on this because Trump has rightly pointed out that when Joe Biden and Kamala Harris say, we would love everyone to wear a mask, they don't have the authority to do that.

00:46:55.000 So really, it's just them jabbering nonsensically.

00:46:58.000 Now, Joe Biden has been roped into saying that he might have the legal authority to mandate that you wear a mask.

00:47:03.000 There is no such authority under the Constitution.

00:47:08.000 There's a question, I think it can be answered in the positive, a question whether I can mandate over state lines that every single state has to comply.

00:47:20.000 Our legal team thinks I can do that based upon the degree to which there's a crisis in those states and how bad things are for the country.

00:47:29.000 And if we don't do it, what happens?

00:47:31.000 But I would make the case.

00:47:33.000 I'd make the case why it's necessary.

00:47:37.000 So he talked to governors, is what he says, but even the implication that he has the constitutional authority to cram this stuff down is not correct, obviously.

00:47:44.000 Okay, meanwhile, supposedly Trump is the person who is anti-science.

00:47:48.000 Now, listen, Trump tweets out a bunch of stuff, and he has tweeted out a bunch of stuff in the past that is anti-science. 0.90

00:47:52.000 Okay, Donald Trump has tweeted out a bunch of crap about vaccines that I find absolutely absurd on every scientific level.

00:47:58.000 Donald Trump has not been, I would say, friendly toward many of the findings of science in the past. 0.97

00:48:04.000 Openly acknowledge this.

00:48:05.000 When it comes to vaccines, what Donald Trump says about vaccines is significantly less dangerous than what Joe Biden is saying about the vaccines for this thing right now.

00:48:12.000 Here was Donald Trump yesterday saying that Biden should stop his anti-vaccine nonsense.

00:48:17.000 I'm calling on Biden to stop promoting his anti-vaccine theories because all they're doing is hurting the importance of what we're doing.

00:48:27.000 And I know that if they were in this position, they'd be saying how wonderful it is.

00:48:32.000 They're recklessly endangering lives.

00:48:34.000 You can't do that.

00:48:36.000 And again, this is really a case that they're only talking to just started talking a little bit negatively, and that's only because they know we have it or we will soon have it.

00:48:47.000 And the answer to that is very soon.

00:48:50.000 OK, so there there is this controversy that broke out because yesterday the CDC director, Robert Redfield, made a couple of comments.

00:48:55.000 He said there wouldn't be wide availability of the vaccine until the middle of next year.

00:48:59.000 And then Trump came back at him.

00:49:02.000 And he said, no, it'll be available sooner.

00:49:03.000 I think that what the controversy is over is who the vaccine will go to.

00:49:08.000 Wide availability means like general public availability, but to the elderly, to the most vulnerable, to healthcare workers, it's supposed to be available by the end of the year.

00:49:14.000 I think pretty much everybody agrees on that at this point.

00:49:18.000 But.

00:49:19.000 You know, again, the party of science not being particularly scientific about vaccines, not being particularly scientific about COVID, and apparently in Nashville, openly covering up information.

00:49:27.000 Well, openly.

00:49:28.000 Now it's open.

00:49:29.000 Covering up information about COVID spread in New York, shutting down the schools.

00:49:33.000 This is no longer scientific.

00:49:34.000 This is political.

00:49:35.000 It's pretty obviously political, which is why it was amazing to watch.

00:49:39.000 So Donald Trump yesterday. He was he was in this presser and he was asked about the COVID response. And he says, if you just look at the at the red states, the red states actually did pretty well here. He's not wrong about this. He got all sorts of flack on it. Here's what Trump said. So we're down in this territory. And that's despite the fact that the blue states had had tremendous death rates. If you take the blue states out, we're at a level that

00:50:08.000 I don't think anybody in the world would be at. We're really at a very low level. But some of the states, they were blue states and blue state management, by the way, would recommend they open up their states. I think it's very important that they.

00:50:20.000 Open up their states.

00:50:21.000 People on the left went nuts over this because he's the president of all the states.

00:50:24.000 Why is he separating red and blue states?

00:50:25.000 This was Chris Hayes' take.

00:50:26.000 He just couldn't believe it.

00:50:28.000 Couldn't believe it.

00:50:28.000 If you take out the blue states, well, then we're at a very low level.

00:50:33.000 If you don't count the deaths of Americans, then there's fewer American deaths.

00:50:36.000 If you're a state that voted for Hillary Clinton, well, then it's your fault, I guess.

00:50:41.000 Your aunt's death.

00:50:42.000 It doesn't actually count, you see.

00:50:44.000 It's a message from the President of the United States.

00:50:46.000 Okay, the ire from Chris Hayes here.

00:50:49.000 Let me just point out that at the DNC, they literally had a woman whose father died of COVID, suggested her dad died of COVID because he voted for Trump.

00:50:55.000 The Democrats have been claiming for this entire time that Andrew Cuomo is a model of American governance while Ron DeSantis is a villain of history for his handling.

00:51:04.000 It was you guys who made this political.

00:51:06.000 You're the ones who decided Donald Trump was the worst president of all time and Andrew Cuomo is the best governor of all time to excuse Andrew Cuomo's garbage governance or the fact that the states that have been hit hardest are almost universally democratic states.

00:51:18.000 And to justify the fact that you guys continue to back lockdown policies that are ineffective at best and extraordinarily damaging at worst.

00:51:24.000 Okay, so you made it red versus blue.

00:51:26.000 You did.

00:51:27.000 It shouldn't be red versus blue.

00:51:28.000 It should be everybody pursues the best policy.

00:51:30.000 That is clearly not what is happening at this point.

00:51:32.000 The good news is, again, the Party of Science is the Party of Science, and so Nancy Pelosi, honestly, she put out an ad yesterday saying that Mother Earth is angry.

00:51:41.000 The Party of Science going full-on Gaia Pagan here.

00:51:44.000 Here is Nancy Pelosi, Speaker of the House, putting out an ad saying that Mother Earth is angry at us.

00:51:49.000 That's what's happening here.

00:51:50.000 Mother Earth is angry.

00:51:52.000 She's telling us, whether she's telling us with hurricanes on the Gulf Coast, fires in the West, that the climate crisis is real and has an impact.

00:52:03.000 Sixteen people have died in Washington, Oregon, and California, including a firefighter and a one-year-old baby.

00:52:09.000 Our firefighters have been so very, very courageous.

00:52:11.000 OK, we can stop it there.

00:52:12.000 I mean, I'm sorry.

00:52:13.000 The Mother Earth is angry crowd.

00:52:15.000 Mother Earth is angry crowd. 0.95

00:52:16.000 Men can be women crowd. 0.81

00:52:17.000 Babies inside the womb are not babies.

00:52:19.000 And hundreds of thousands of Americans are going to die by the end of the year based on a study that was wrong in nearly all of its specifics very early on and now is putting in bad data again.

00:52:28.000 And also, vaccines are bad if they're developed under the Trump administration.

00:52:30.000 Spare me.

00:52:31.000 Spare me just a little bit.

00:52:32.000 Just a little bit.

00:52:33.000 Alrighty.

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