The Ben Shapiro Show - The Media Can’t Reade | Ep. 999

00:00:00.000 Media downplay new revelations regarding a sexual assault allegation against Joe Biden. 0.99

00:00:04.000 Reporters keep asking Trump pretty dumb questions.

00:00:07.000 And politicians waver on reopening. 0.98

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00:00:23.000 Okay, so we've got some good news.

00:00:25.000 We've got some bad news this morning.

00:00:26.000 The bad news is that not much has changed in terms of our knowledge level about coronavirus.

00:00:31.000 There is still a lot of vagueness as far as what we know and what we do not know.

00:00:35.000 We do know that the death rates from actual infection of coronavirus are significantly lower than originally proposed.

00:00:40.000 They're not 3%, they're not 4%, they're well under 1%.

00:00:43.000 The question is how far under because each 0.1 is a multiple of the flu.

00:00:48.000 So if it's 0.1, that's the same as the flu.

00:00:50.000 0.2 is double the flu.

00:00:51.000 0.3 is triple the flu.

00:00:52.000 And so on.

00:00:53.000 In all likelihood, what we're looking at is somewhere between 0.3 and 0.6, which is at least three to six times as deadly as the flu, plus this thing spreads three times as fast as the flu, which means that you're going to end up with a multiple of deaths absent social distancing.

00:01:05.000 And that is what the models are beginning to show today, is that as people consider reopening, there will be additional deaths.

00:01:10.000 Now, people are using this as an excuse to suggest that we have to remain shut down forever.

00:01:15.000 But this is the reality of life.

00:01:16.000 If we stay locked up in our homes for any reason, Rates of flu deaths will go down.

00:01:21.000 Any communicable disease will go down.

00:01:22.000 Rates of herpes will go down.

00:01:23.000 Any disease that is communicated by people being in close contact with one another will go down when you are at home.

00:01:29.000 On the other hand, things like heart disease or cancer, those are really not going to change very much, and you're not going to be able to get your treatment if you are at home.

00:01:35.000 But the communicable diseases are always going to go down when you keep people at home.

00:01:39.000 Car accident deaths are going to go down.

00:01:41.000 There are just certain things that are going to go down.

00:01:42.000 So, recognizing that disease continues to exist in our society, and that we are going to go out of our houses, That means that there will be additional deaths.

00:01:49.000 The question is, how many additional deaths?

00:01:51.000 So, there are new models out today trying to describe how many new deaths will be created by people going out.

00:01:58.000 And this is hard to model because we don't know the extent to which people are actually going to social distance.

00:02:01.000 Now, I have a lot of faith in the American people.

00:02:03.000 I think that most people are smart and risk-averse enough to stay six feet away from each other, to wear masks in public places.

00:02:10.000 I don't think that people are going to be going out en masse to ACDC concerts and I just don't think that's what's going to happen here.

00:02:18.000 I'm a very 90s languager, but I think that is unlikely.

00:02:21.000 I think most people are interested in social distancing.

00:02:24.000 Most people recognize that the risk still remains.

00:02:27.000 According to the CDC, state-level forecasts vary widely, reflecting differences in early epidemic phases, timing of interventions, and model-specific assumptions.

00:02:35.000 According to the CDC, models that factor in strong contact reduction suggest new deaths will continue to occur, but will slow substantially over the next four weeks.

00:02:43.000 Conversely, models that do not incorporate as strong contact reductions suggest that total deaths may continue to rise quickly, which of course makes perfect sense. 0.94

00:02:49.000 The virus has not gone away.

00:02:51.000 The only thing that's happened is that we all went in our homes.

00:02:53.000 Now, where we meet each other is also going to make a big difference.

00:02:56.000 If we are outside and we are somewhat far away from one another, that's going to be a lot better than if we all rush back to restaurants and baseball games.

00:03:01.000 It's going to be a while until we are in close quarters with one another.

00:03:05.000 I think that's going to be largely discouraged not only societally and socially, which is important, but also by government.

00:03:11.000 One model that's frequently cited by the White House Coronavirus Task Force upped its prediction death toll again.

00:03:15.000 This would be the IHME model, the one from University of Washington that was subject to all of this controversy because early on it suggested 100,000 to 240,000 deaths.

00:03:22.000 And then it downgraded that to about 60,000 deaths.

00:03:25.000 And it's been upgrading it again because their assumptions were that we were all going to stay in our houses until June 1st, which was really not going to happen.

00:03:31.000 Now they've upgraded again and suggested that there will be 74,000 Americans dead by August if people go out and engage in some level of social distancing.

00:03:39.000 Again, that model is not based on them inputting what they think the level of social distancing will be.

00:03:47.000 It's based on curve fitting from other countries that are starting to end their lockdowns.

00:03:52.000 The projection was adjusted due to longer peaks in some states and signs that people are becoming more active again.

00:03:56.000 So it is actually just curve fitting to the data that is currently known.

00:03:59.000 That model has become increasingly accurate over time.

00:04:02.000 It was suggesting that there were going to be about 67,000 deaths before the lockdown started to end.

00:04:06.000 Now that the lockdowns are starting to end, they're suggesting 74,000 deaths over the course of the next few months.

00:04:12.000 And let's be real about this.

00:04:13.000 Okay, let's be absolutely real about this.

00:04:14.000 There's no scenario in which people go back out and start to socially distance and engage in meaningful economic activity where the death rates don't go up.

00:04:23.000 That is just going to happen.

00:04:24.000 And everybody understands that.

00:04:25.000 Left, right, and center.

00:04:26.000 And any politician or any member of the media who fulminates over this is lying to you.

00:04:30.000 Any politician who suggests that they're not willing to take any measure that allows one more death to take place, it's just not true.

00:04:37.000 Everybody who is making public policy is balancing a variety of interests.

00:04:37.000 Okay?

00:04:40.000 And one of the things that we balance in public policy, as I've been saying since the very outset of this, is the additional risk to Americans.

00:04:47.000 Additional risk means additional death.

00:04:48.000 End of story.

00:04:49.000 So the question is, In very blunt terms, is the increased death rate from what is currently projected at 64,000 to 74,000 over the course of the next three months, is that worth reopening the American economy?

00:05:04.000 And I think most Americans would probably say yes.

00:05:07.000 Frankly speaking, I think most Americans would probably say yes.

00:05:09.000 Nate Silver over at FiveThirtyEight makes this point, right?

00:05:10.000 He's saying that anybody who's suggesting the death rate goes to zero is just not telling you the truth.

00:05:15.000 What we are currently discussing is if there are three or four hundred deaths a day nationwide from COVID-19 in a country where 7,500 people a day typically die.

00:05:23.000 Is that enough to shut down the entire American economy? 0.77

00:05:25.000 The answer, obviously, is going to be no.

00:05:27.000 We'll get to more of this in just one second.

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00:06:39.000 Okay, so Governor Gavin Newsom in California, he continues to suggest that his state is weeks away from changing its stay-at-home order, but people are just not obeying this.

00:06:51.000 And the fact is that people are going out to beaches.

00:06:53.000 Gavin Newsom was fulminating over this last night.

00:06:55.000 He was suggesting that he is basically going to keep America locked down ad infinitum because people are going out.

00:07:02.000 He suggested that he's going to keep this going specifically because people are going out.

00:07:08.000 Meanwhile, as of Tuesday morning, over a million people in the United States have been infected.

00:07:12.000 More than 56,000 have already died.

00:07:15.000 Governor Brian Kemp says Georgia is moving forward with data and information and decisions from the local public health officials and working within the guidelines of the Great Plan the President has laid out.

00:07:24.000 Hard-hit cities are starting to test asymptomatic people. 1.00

00:07:27.000 L.A.

00:07:27.000 County is going to expand coronavirus testing Tuesday to include delivery drivers, rideshare drivers, taxi drivers, even if they feel fine, according to L.A.

00:07:33.000 Mayor Eric Garcetti.

00:07:34.000 And that makes perfect sense.

00:07:35.000 You want to see if people who are out there driving and asymptomatic, people who are in close contact with the stuff that you're touching and in close contact in a car with you, driving you around, that those people don't actually have COVID-19 and aren't spreading it to people who are in the back of their cars.

00:07:49.000 Garcetti said these are folks that are on the front lines helping us get to where we need to go, helping us to have food delivered to our homes.

00:07:55.000 Same thing is happening in Boston, where Mayor Martin Walsh said that 1,000 asymptomatic residents will undergo diagnostic and antibody testing by Friday to evaluate exposure to the virus in the city.

00:08:05.000 Also starting on Tuesday, Georgia public health workers will start visiting randomly selected homes in two of Georgia's largest counties to conduct antibody testing through blood samples, and that program is voluntary.

00:08:15.000 Now, whether or not the antibodies actually mean that you're immune to the vaccine, that is still up in the air.

00:08:20.000 We don't actually know that you can just go out willy-nilly and you're fine forever.

00:08:24.000 That is not clear at this point.

00:08:26.000 But the antibody test will tell us how deadly the disease is.

00:08:29.000 And they will also tell us if a hotspot starts to rise up.

00:08:33.000 Now, the question is how far the testing has to go.

00:08:36.000 Because right now, this has sort of become the buzzword for people who want the lockdowns to continue.

00:08:40.000 Is they just keep shouting testing, testing, testing.

00:08:42.000 And the question is, what does the testing actually accomplish?

00:08:45.000 So as I've said before, all testing can really do at this point is help you locate a hotspot.

00:08:50.000 And then presumably you can contact tracing that hotspot.

00:08:53.000 But people have been saying, well, South Korea did it successfully.

00:08:55.000 South Korea has a grand total of 11,000 diagnosed cases in South Korea.

00:09:01.000 The United States has over a million.

00:09:04.000 So this thing is spreading faster in the United States.

00:09:06.000 It had already spread far more quickly, unless you are willing to allow the virus to basically burn down to zero again, and then we restart with contact tracing and testing, which, by the way, would take a hell of a long time, and you keep the economy shut down for months more.

00:09:19.000 What South Korea did in the first place was great, but we're not going to get that restart.

00:09:23.000 It's just not going to happen.

00:09:24.000 Unless the thing burns all the way out during the summer, and then hopefully we have capacity in September.

00:09:28.000 There's a reason other European countries are not doing what South Korea did.

00:09:31.000 It is just not possible for the United States to do what South Korea did, absent a complete burnout. 0.52

00:09:36.000 So I said from the beginning, we had to move from a Chinese lockdown model to a South Korean test and trace model.

00:09:42.000 It's becoming clear, thanks to the asymptomatic nature of this disease, that's incredibly difficult.

00:09:46.000 You might be able to do that in certain specific areas, but even in areas where you have hotspots, your first notification of the hotspot is unlikely to be asymptomatic testing.

00:09:54.000 Your first notification of the hotspot is likely to be hospitals getting overwhelmed with people who are walking in with actual symptoms.

00:10:00.000 Now, that doesn't mean that we can't ramp up testing, or that we shouldn't ramp up testing.

00:10:04.000 We can and we should.

00:10:05.000 But we cannot sit home.

00:10:06.000 The timeline is just too immediate on this thing.

00:10:10.000 So when you see L.A.

00:10:11.000 Mayor Eric Garcetti saying, maybe we can scale back measures in a few weeks with baby steps.

00:10:15.000 Let me just tell you, I live in L.A.

00:10:17.000 People ain't waiting.

00:10:18.000 They're not.

00:10:18.000 They're not going to wait until June or July for Eric Garcetti to give them the go-ahead.

00:10:21.000 The traffic on Ventura Boulevard today is in actual serious traffic.

00:10:25.000 There have been actual traffic jams on the 10.

00:10:28.000 People are not going to sit home and wait to go bankrupt because Eric Garcetti says that your risk has risen, if you are a young person under the age of 40, by .001 or whatever the actual stat is.

00:10:39.000 The actual stat for people who are under the age of 40 and healthy is really close to zero.

00:10:44.000 Those people are not going to continue to sit home because Eric Garcetti says you're supposed to stay home.

00:10:48.000 Here's Eric Garcetti yesterday suggesting maybe we can scale back measures in a few weeks.

00:10:52.000 My sense is probably in the next two to six weeks we'll see some baby steps forward.

00:10:56.000 You know, it's so critical to have a few things in place.

00:10:59.000 It's not really about a date or how few cases you have.

00:11:02.000 It's about the infrastructure you have to handle opening up.

00:11:06.000 So the good news is the bad news here.

00:11:08.000 The good news is, and thank you to everybody listening, what we've been doing has worked.

00:11:12.000 It has saved thousands of lives.

00:11:14.000 But the bad news is that means According to the USC prevalence study, we have about 96% of us that could still get this.

00:11:21.000 And if we opened up the wrong way, we could have by August 1st, 95% of us with COVID-19.

00:11:27.000 Okay.

00:11:28.000 First of all, that's not true.

00:11:29.000 If we opened this up, it would not be 95% of us have COVID-19 by August 1st.

00:11:34.000 And this thing was in California by January.

00:11:36.000 The idea that over the next two months that everyone in California was going to get COVID-19 and that Americans are smarter than that Californians.

00:11:44.000 God help us, even Californians are smarter than that. 1.00

00:11:47.000 And let's be real, there are countervailing problems here.

00:11:49.000 There's a new survey showing that 1 in 4 Americans say that they are losing their will to comply.

00:11:54.000 According to a survey conducted by Kelton Global, 1 in 4 Americans say they've already reached their breaking point.

00:11:58.000 100% say they would definitely reach that point if they're forced to stay home through mid-June.

00:12:02.000 A hundred percent.

00:12:04.000 In all, 1,900 U.S.

00:12:05.000 citizens over the age of 18 were surveyed earlier this month.

00:12:09.000 72% said they expected to reach a breaking point by mid-June if stay-at-home orders aren't lifted.

00:12:12.000 100% of respondents said they would snap if all this lasts longer than six months.

00:12:17.000 The survey was conducted between April 3rd and April 6th.

00:12:19.000 At that time, 16% said they had already hit their breaking point.

00:12:22.000 And as the money stops flowing, as people lose their jobs permanently, and they're going to food banks and they're on unemployment insurance, those numbers are going to skyrocket.

00:12:30.000 A lot of people have not felt the actual economic fallout of this thing quite yet because of the government tiding people over.

00:12:35.000 Young Americans are the people most likely to say they've reached the breaking point, of course, because young Americans are more active than older Americans.

00:12:41.000 Also, young Americans typically do not have houses, so they don't have backyards that they can go out into.

00:12:45.000 Also, young Americans are not at high risk from this thing.

00:12:48.000 If you're under the age of 30, you ain't dying from it, unless you have a serious pre-existing condition.

00:12:51.000 If you're under 40, you're not dying of it, unless you have a serious pre-existing condition.

00:12:55.000 This does have implications for whether the lockdowns are even going to be possible to continue.

00:13:01.000 So we're going to get to more of this in just one second.

00:13:03.000 Like, what would be the most responsible way to do this?

00:13:05.000 Also, some actual very good news out of Oxford.

00:13:07.000 We'll get to that in just one moment.

00:13:09.000 First, the Second Amendment is very relevant these days.

00:13:12.000 The Supreme Court refused yesterday to step in and stop New York state laws that really infringe on the Second Amendment.

00:13:19.000 And that means that you really have to be protective of your own ability to keep and bear arms right now before states start cracking down on this sort of stuff more.

00:13:26.000 Also, as we see the government jumping into American life in heretofore unforeseen ways, imagine the fact that right now a Republican is president and that Republican has no interest.

00:13:36.000 In seeing the government maximize its authority and power in the midst of the pandemic.

00:13:40.000 That is simply not the case with so many places around the country which are forcibly shutting down gun shops for example trying to do that as quote-unquote non-essential businesses in the middle of a pandemic while releasing tons of people from jail.

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00:14:45.000 Okay, so here's a bit of good news.

00:14:47.000 Speaking of the tests, the tests are ramping up.

00:14:49.000 We're seeing a couple of ways in which the tests are ramping up.

00:14:52.000 The White House was promoting yesterday this new plan to ramp up testing.

00:14:56.000 They released a White House blueprint.

00:14:59.000 That blueprint is sort of vague as to what exactly they hope will be the level of testing that is available as states reopen.

00:15:05.000 They suggest that states, local, tribal governments have to develop testing plans and rapid response programs and maximize the use of all available testing platforms.

00:15:12.000 They said that they are working with private groups across the nation to ramp up testing, and that is in fact happening.

00:15:19.000 You're starting to see major chain stores developing the possibility for point-of-contact tests, which is really, really good.

00:15:26.000 President Trump met with the heads of major retailers yesterday, pharmacy chains, testing labs, including Walmart and CVS Health, and the White House released what it called a blueprint of its testing plans.

00:15:34.000 President Trump said in a Rose Garden press conference, we're deploying the full power and strength of the federal government to help state cities and help local governments get this horrible plague over with.

00:15:42.000 Admiral Brett Giroir?

00:15:43.000 The administration official overseeing coronavirus testing efforts said the federal government would be able to supply every state with supplies and tests they need to dramatically increase the number of tests.

00:15:50.000 Really what they mean is they're going to be able to increase the number of tests such that each state will have enough tests for 2% of the population.

00:15:58.000 Meanwhile, Quest Diagnostics has announced that they are going to begin selling COVID-19 antibody tests.

00:16:03.000 Now, we still don't know whether the antibody actually protects or provides serious immunity, but Quest Diagnostics is offering a new antibody test for $119 or potentially less if you have insurance.

00:16:13.000 Quest says this test checks for a type of antibody called immunoglobulin G.

00:16:17.000 That is the result of past or recent exposure to COVID-19, also known as coronavirus.

00:16:22.000 The human body produces antibodies as part of the immune response to the virus.

00:16:25.000 It usually takes 10 to 18 days to produce enough antibodies to be detected in the blood.

00:16:30.000 So the test can help determine if you have been previously exposed.

00:16:32.000 It can check whether your body has produced enough antibodies, whether or not you were exposed.

00:16:36.000 Jay Wolgamoth, who is the Senior Vice President and Chief Medical Officer for Quest, says, with the introduction of this test in service, Quest is making it easy for people to access quality testing for antibodies to the virus, which caused COVID-19.

00:16:48.000 So all of this is useful.

00:16:50.000 All of this is good.

00:16:51.000 None of it is going to prevent people from going out and working.

00:16:55.000 So here's the good news.

00:16:56.000 Here's an actual piece of good news.

00:16:58.000 There's an Oxford group that says that they may, in fact, be able to produce millions of doses of vaccine.

00:17:02.000 They're testing a vaccine right now.

00:17:04.000 They may be able to produce millions of doses of vaccine, they're hoping, by September, which would be unbelievable.

00:17:10.000 That would be a triumph of the human spirit and of the human ingenuity if we are able to produce a human-available vaccine by September.

00:17:17.000 We were told 12 to 18 months.

00:17:19.000 That would mean that was actually six months, which is just insanely fast.

00:17:22.000 According to the New York Times, in the worldwide race for a vaccine to stop coronavirus, the laboratory sprinting fastest is at Oxford.

00:17:29.000 Most other teams have had to start with small clinical trials of a few hundred participants to demonstrate safety.

00:17:33.000 Scientists at the University's Jenner Institute had a head start on a vaccine, having proved in previous trials that similar inoculations, including one last year against an earlier coronavirus, were harmless to humans.

00:17:44.000 This has enabled them to leap ahead and schedule tests of their new coronavirus vaccine involving more than 6,000 people by the end of next month.

00:17:51.000 Hoping to show not only that it is safe, but also that it works, which would be like, again, that'd be miraculous.

00:17:55.000 That'd be miraculous.

00:17:56.000 And by the way, if there's a vaccine and that thing is available by like the end of May, what you are talking about would be the fastest recovery in the history of human economics, right?

00:18:06.000 If a vaccine were available and the vaccine were made available broadly to the American people, by the end of the summer, people would start investing again.

00:18:13.000 The money would come back online.

00:18:14.000 All the jobs would come back.

00:18:15.000 People would be ready to spend.

00:18:16.000 We've all been locked down for over a month.

00:18:18.000 Some of us for more than that.

00:18:20.000 Many of us are going to be likely locked down for several more weeks.

00:18:22.000 The Oxford scientists now say that with an emergency approval from regulators, the first few million doses of their vaccine could be available by September, at least several months ahead of any other announced efforts if it proves to be effective.

00:18:33.000 And now they have promising news suggesting it might.

00:18:35.000 So this is like the best news that we have heard in weeks and weeks and weeks, right?

00:18:38.000 I've said before, if there's a deus ex machina that changes everything, obviously this would be that, except it'd be it.

00:18:44.000 It would be a science ex machina, right?

00:18:46.000 Scientists at the National Institute of Health's Rocky Mountain Laboratory in Montana last month inoculated six rhesus macaque monkeys with single doses of the Oxford vaccine.

00:18:55.000 The animals were then exposed to heavy quantities of the virus causing the pandemic, exposure that had consistently sickened other monkeys in the lab.

00:19:02.000 More than 28 days later, all six were healthy, said Vincent Munster, the researcher conducting the test.

00:19:07.000 He said the rhesus macaque is pretty much the closest thing we have to humans.

00:19:11.000 He said he expected to share it with other scientists this week, this paper, and submit it to a peer-reviewed journal.

00:19:16.000 Now, immunity in monkeys is not a guarantee a vaccine would provide the same degree of protection for humans.

00:19:21.000 A Chinese company that recently started a clinical trial with 144 participants has also said its vaccine was effective in rhesus macaques.

00:19:27.000 But with dozens of efforts now underway to find a vaccine, the monkey results are the latest indicator that Oxford's accelerated venture is emerging as a bellwether.

00:19:35.000 It's a very, very fast clinical program, said Emilia Emini, Director of the Vaccine Program at the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, which is providing financial support to many competing efforts.

00:19:43.000 By the way, I've seen some conspiracy, crazy conspiracy theorists who are angry at Bill and Melinda Gates because they back vaccines. 0.98

00:19:48.000 Shut the f up. 1.00

00:19:49.000 Like, seriously, what's wrong with you people? 1.00

00:19:51.000 What's wrong with you people?

00:19:51.000 We've got thousands of people dying every day around the world, including thousands in the United States, and you're pissed off at the people who are spending millions of their own dollars to develop a vaccine?

00:19:59.000 Find a hobby.

00:20:00.000 Go learn to knit or something.

00:20:01.000 My god.

00:20:03.000 Which potential vaccine will emerge from the scramble is most successful is impossible to know until clinical trial data becomes available.

00:20:09.000 More than one vaccine might be needed in any case.

00:20:12.000 Some may work more effectively than others in groups like children or older people.

00:20:16.000 Having more than one variety would be a good thing.

00:20:19.000 But the Oxford trial will provide lessons about the nature of the coronavirus, so we will find out.

00:20:24.000 It's hard not to get your hopes up when you read news like that, but you know what?

00:20:27.000 It's okay.

00:20:28.000 Get your hopes up.

00:20:28.000 Just don't do anything irresponsible.

00:20:30.000 Get your hopes up, and then we'll move on to the next hope if that doesn't work, right?

00:20:34.000 Hydroxychloroquine didn't work.

00:20:35.000 That was a hope.

00:20:36.000 Didn't work.

00:20:37.000 There's this drug from Gilead Sciences.

00:20:38.000 We're still waiting.

00:20:39.000 Maybe that won't work.

00:20:40.000 It's okay to get your hopes up.

00:20:42.000 It just isn't okay to be irresponsible, obviously.

00:20:45.000 In the meantime, how exactly are we going to go about reopening?

00:20:47.000 Well, the good news is, again, I'm very comforted.

00:20:49.000 There are a lot of people who are very upset that President Trump is president at a time like this.

00:20:53.000 One of the reasons I'm comforted that President Trump is president is not because of the crazy stuff he says during press conferences.

00:20:57.000 Frankly, that's Trump, and you know he's going to do it and stop, like, really.

00:21:01.000 Does the sun rise in the morning?

00:21:03.000 Is the sky blue? 1.00

00:21:05.000 Does President Trump say crazy crap at press conferences? 0.99

00:21:09.000 These are all things that are just natural facts of life. 0.98

00:21:11.000 But what is not a natural fact of life is the fact that the federal government is not using this pandemic in order to seize ultimate power.

00:21:17.000 That is a good thing.

00:21:18.000 That is a very good thing.

00:21:20.000 That is why it is a good thing that the Attorney General, William Barr, put out a letter today Telling people that they need to actually take into account the Constitution as they pursue these lockdown strategies.

00:21:33.000 He says, as the Department of Justice explained recently in guidance to states and localities taking steps to battle the pandemic, even in times of emergency, when reasonable and temporary restrictions are placed on rights, the First Amendment and federal statutory law prohibit discrimination against religious institutions and religious believers.

00:21:47.000 The legal restrictions on state and local authority are not limited to discrimination against religious institutions and religious believers.

00:21:54.000 The Constitution also forbids discrimination against disfavored speech and undue interference with the national economy.

00:21:59.000 If a state or local ordinance crosses the line from an appropriate exercise of authority to stop the spread of COVID-19 into an overbearing infringement of constitutional and statutory protections, the DOJ may have an obligation to address that overreach in federal court.

00:22:12.000 That's a very good thing.

00:22:13.000 It's a very good thing that people are concerned about that sort of overreach.

00:22:18.000 In just a second, we're going to talk about whether people are being responsible because answer is mostly they are.

00:22:23.000 Mostly they are.

00:22:24.000 And then we're going to talk about overreach in the media, which continues to undercut their credibility when they talk about issues like COVID-19.

00:22:30.000 It turns out that credibility is a thing that once it is lost, cannot be regained very easily.

00:22:34.000 So if you lose credibility because you are a political hack, and then you spend all of your time talking about COVID-19, people are going to take it as though you're a political hack talking about COVID-19.

00:22:43.000 At least if you purport to be objective, right?

00:22:45.000 Those of us who acknowledge we are not objective, at least we're honest about our own biases.

00:22:48.000 This is one of the problems for the media.

00:22:49.000 They rarely do this.

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00:23:33.000 As you say, states are moving to ease these lockdowns.

00:23:35.000 They should be moving to ease these lockdowns.

00:23:37.000 And the only question is, what are the strategies that ought to be used?

00:23:39.000 When you see people fulminating from their perches in New York, their secure perches in the media, right?

00:23:45.000 I said this yesterday.

00:23:45.000 They get to do what I do.

00:23:46.000 We are privileged.

00:23:48.000 We are privileged.

00:23:48.000 We get to sit in our houses and have a job and continue to work.

00:23:52.000 Many people do not.

00:23:53.000 When they sit in their houses and they fulminate against people working, it really is kind of gross.

00:23:59.000 And thus, it is pretty amazing to watch more and more people on the left doing this sort of stuff.

00:24:04.000 The fact is that there are a couple different strategies that have to take place.

00:24:07.000 While we wait for the testing regime to ramp up to the point where presumably we are not just identifying hotspots, but also being able to identify people like right at the moment of contact.

00:24:17.000 While that all ramps up, people are going to have to get back to work because the center cannot hold.

00:24:21.000 This is just not going to work.

00:24:23.000 There is a study out of Israel suggesting that perhaps the best strategy here is not testing and contact tracing in a country of 330 million people with incredible population density and with a million already diagnosed cases.

00:24:37.000 Perhaps the best strategy is to focus on the vulnerable.

00:24:39.000 There's a paper Amnon Shishua and Shai Shalev-Schwartz, they're both professors at Hebrew University in Jerusalem, and they say that the idea would be to identify the vulnerable, age cut-offs and comorbidities, have them observe strict social distancing for their own protection while receiving assistance from the state.

00:24:54.000 The weakness of the approach is whether it is at all practical to observe a differential social distancing regime, and whether the toll of strict social distancing is too much to bear over an extended period of time.

00:25:03.000 But here's the reality.

00:25:04.000 Either we're all going to do it, or some of us are going to do it.

00:25:06.000 Better some of us than all of us, particularly those who are most vulnerable.

00:25:10.000 By the way, this is something that we do with vulnerable populations on a regular basis.

00:25:14.000 If you're immunocompromised, then we make provisions for you regularly.

00:25:18.000 If you're immunocompromised, we don't suggest that your life is going to look just like people who are not immunocompromised.

00:25:23.000 Anybody who's immunocompromised will tell you all the precautions that they take on a daily basis in order to protect themselves.

00:25:29.000 So, tranching people by population and recognizing the risk factors by population, that would be the key.

00:25:33.000 That's why you need the antibody test, so you can figure out exactly who is most vulnerable.

00:25:37.000 It's why you need broader testing, and you need better reporting of medical conditions underlying this thing, so people can get back to work.

00:25:44.000 All of this is important.

00:25:45.000 And meanwhile, I think you can trust the American people to be smart in how they re-approach this whole thing.

00:25:51.000 Not just because the testing is getting better as we ramp up our capacity to test.

00:25:56.000 There are new saliva tests, according to the Washington Post, that are going to be rolled out in very short order, which obviously is good news.

00:26:02.000 But also the American people, as I mentioned yesterday, they are generally being responsible.

00:26:06.000 According to the Associated Press, with staff wearing masks, checking customers' temperatures, using disposable paper placemats, some of the nation's restaurants reopened for dine-in service on Monday as states loosen more coronavirus restrictions.

00:26:16.000 Many eateries remain closed amid safety concerns and community backlash.

00:26:20.000 Restaurants in Georgia, Tennessee, Anchorage, Alaska welcome diners back, albeit for a different dining experience than before.

00:26:26.000 In Louisiana, the governor said restaurants will be allowed to seat people outside starting on Friday.

00:26:30.000 Which, by the way, would be a good idea.

00:26:32.000 Seating people outside is a good thing.

00:26:34.000 If I had a restaurant, I would be looking to set up tables in the parking lot.

00:26:37.000 Seriously.

00:26:38.000 Because the open air is a much better environment than a closed restaurant.

00:26:43.000 Chris Haithas, who manages 87 Waffle House restaurants, he says we're ecstatic to have them back.

00:26:48.000 A lot of people, I think, want to get back to the new normal, which will be social distancing and all that, but they'll be able to eat inside the restaurant.

00:26:53.000 The new normal includes employees wearing masks, booths closed to keep customers apart, and traditional plastic placemat menus replaced by paper menus so they are discardable, so people are not touching the same surfaces over and over.

00:27:03.000 There are 39 different requirements in the state of Georgia that restaurants have to follow, including observing a limit of 10 customers per 500 square feet, and ensuring that all employees wear face coverings.

00:27:13.000 All of this is good.

00:27:14.000 All of this is responsible.

00:27:16.000 All of it is.

00:27:17.000 Meanwhile...

00:27:19.000 There are still people who seem wedded to the idea of the lockdowns for a variety of political reasons.

00:27:23.000 On the one hand, you have people who are wedded to the lockdowns because they want to see a government spending increase.

00:27:27.000 And on the other hand, you see people who want the lockdowns because they actually think that it's a leverage point for workers against employers, which is perfectly insane in a world where employers are going under by the bushel.

00:27:37.000 Rashida Tlaib. 0.98

00:27:38.000 Who is one of the members of the squad, just terrible, the congresswoman from Michigan, who when she's not spouting idiotic anti-Semitic propaganda, is saying really dumb things about the economy. 0.98

00:27:47.000 She suggests that workers are supposed to push back against reopening. 0.99

00:27:50.000 They don't have jobs.

00:27:50.000 Really?

00:27:52.000 They're not workers right now.

00:27:53.000 They're unemployed people.

00:27:54.000 They're gonna push back against reopening?

00:27:56.000 Rashida Tlaib has it easy. 0.99

00:27:57.000 She's got a job paid for by the taxpayer. 1.00

00:27:59.000 A lot of people, they don't have jobs.

00:28:00.000 And employers are going under.

00:28:02.000 And she's suggesting that now's a great time for a work strike.

00:28:05.000 Genius stuff here from Rashida Tlaib.

00:28:07.000 If you are afraid to go to work, do not go to work.

00:28:11.000 And I know this is hard, but you have every right to make sure your life is put first and to fight back.

00:28:19.000 I don't care if it's labor organizing this late in the game or if it's demanding that your life is not treated as if it's disposable, but I want you not to be afraid to go to work.

00:28:30.000 I want you to organize with your other their coworkers and demand better demand that your life again is put first and that your health is put first.

00:28:38.000 So I would push back no matter what these decisions and these other folks and these task force that are being put together, uh, your gut feeling, follow that.

00:28:47.000 Good luck.

00:28:49.000 I mean, seriously, good luck.

00:28:50.000 If you're young and you're healthy, and your business reopens, and you don't have any serious risk, and you're not living with an older person, and these lockdowns are lifted, and your place of business says, listen, your job is not something you can do from home, right?

00:29:03.000 You work in manufacturing.

00:29:04.000 You have to be at the factory.

00:29:05.000 You're like, you know what?

00:29:06.000 I'm a little nervous today.

00:29:08.000 There are now 30 million people out of work and many of them will fill that job.

00:29:11.000 That doesn't mean that employers shouldn't keep things safe.

00:29:13.000 Employers have the most interest in keeping things safe.

00:29:15.000 Look at Tyson Foods, which is shutting down factories because of coronavirus.

00:29:18.000 I don't know what the hell she's talking about.

00:29:21.000 The Rashida Tlaib types or the Paul Krugman types. 1.00

00:29:23.000 Paul Krugman has an idiotic column today suggesting that people should stop worrying about the deficit at a time when we are blowing out $7 trillion in spending. 0.97

00:29:31.000 He says the only fiscal thing to fear is deficit fear itself. 0.99

00:29:34.000 Deficits don't matter anymore.

00:29:35.000 I'm old enough to remember when Paul Krugman thought that modern monetary theory was a bunch of claptrap.

00:29:39.000 Modern monetary theory is the idea we can just spend endlessly because people will just continue buying our bonds because the American economy is still powerful.

00:29:47.000 Now he is he's out there basically embracing modern monetary theory.

00:29:51.000 He suggests that deficit vultures are hypocrites and that we shouldn't be worried about the effects of COVID-19 on debt.

00:29:57.000 He says it's true.

00:29:58.000 We're headed for some eye-popping numbers.

00:30:00.000 Last week, the CBO released preliminary economic and budget projections for the next two years, which were both shocking and unsurprising.

00:30:06.000 Soaring unemployment will cause federal revenues to plunge and lead to a surge in spending on safety net programs like unemployment insurance, Medicaid, and food stamps.

00:30:13.000 Add in the large relief packages Congress has passed, and the Budget Office projects a deficit that will temporarily rise to levels we haven't seen since World War II.

00:30:20.000 It expects federal debt to rise to 108%, from 79% of GDP, which sounds scary.

00:30:25.000 But the government will be able to borrow that money at incredibly low interest rates.

00:30:28.000 In fact, real interest rates, rates on government bonds protected against inflation, are negative right now.

00:30:33.000 So the burden of the additional debt as measured by the rise in federal interest payments will be negligible.

00:30:37.000 So don't worry about it, guys.

00:30:38.000 We'll always be able to pay it back.

00:30:39.000 We won't have to inflate our way out.

00:30:41.000 Mm-hmm.

00:30:41.000 Sure, Paul.

00:30:42.000 Sure.

00:30:43.000 As appetite for American debt wanes because we have the government intervening in our economy and deepening a depression, I'm sure that people will continue to buy that debt.

00:30:51.000 I'm sure.

00:30:51.000 It'll be totally fine.

00:30:52.000 No problem whatsoever.

00:30:54.000 Okay, in just a second, we're going to get to the media in all of this because We try here on the show to bring you as much of... Listen, you know my political viewpoint.

00:31:02.000 But I'm trying to be as objective as I can about the data.

00:31:02.000 You do.

00:31:04.000 This is not true for many members of the media who have undercut their own credibility.

00:31:08.000 And then they're surprised when people don't believe them about COVID-19 after they destroy their own credibility on a variety of other issues.

00:31:13.000 We're going to get to that in just one second.

00:31:15.000 This is a time when you actually need to be able to trust people who theoretically know what they are talking about or who are at least conveying information from people who know what they are talking about.

00:31:15.000 It's really dangerous.

00:31:22.000 And yet trust in media are at an all-time low.

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00:34:22.000 So President Trump continues to be in this ongoing war with the media.

00:34:32.000 And I'm not sure that it's in his best interest, but I'm absolutely positive that the media largely deserve it.

00:34:38.000 The media have been focused on virtually all the wrong issues here.

00:34:40.000 They do not bring you any sort of well-calibrated information.

00:34:43.000 Instead, it seems to be largely hysterics.

00:34:46.000 If you read to paragraph 19 in a New York Times article, you get to the hard data very often.

00:34:49.000 But if you just watch cable news, All you get is a bunch of screaming, talking heads telling you that either it's the end of the world on the one hand, or not to worry about it, it's the flu on the other. 0.97

00:34:57.000 All of this is ridiculous. 1.00

00:34:59.000 It's ridiculous. 0.98

00:35:00.000 You know, well-calibrated public policy would be the way to go about all of this.

00:35:04.000 Recognizing the risks, being transparent with the American people, that's not what you get from the media.

00:35:08.000 Particularly the media covering the White House.

00:35:09.000 The media covering the White House, we should stop, honestly, we should stop all televised press briefings.

00:35:14.000 We should.

00:35:14.000 They're a waste of time.

00:35:15.000 They're a complete waste of time.

00:35:16.000 Because, or if you're going to hold these televised press briefings in a time of pandemic, the president shouldn't show up.

00:35:21.000 It should be Birx. 1.00

00:35:22.000 It should be Fauci.

00:35:23.000 It should be the people who know what they're talking about, Redfield.

00:35:25.000 And it shouldn't be the political reporters on the White House beat.

00:35:29.000 It should be the health reporters on the White House beat.

00:35:31.000 It should be the people over at the Washington Post who run Health 202. 0.78

00:35:34.000 It shouldn't be the political reporters who are busy writing democracy dies in darkness, Trump is a bad mean man articles.

00:35:40.000 It should be the health reporters over at the New York Times.

00:35:43.000 It should be the people over at Politico, who actually write health policy.

00:35:46.000 On the right, it should be Avik Roy over at FREOP.

00:35:48.000 It should be people who actually pay attention to health policy right now, asking specific questions that convey information to the American people.

00:35:54.000 That's not what we get, however.

00:35:55.000 Instead, we get Jim Acosta posturing for the purposes of loving Jim Acosta, because Jim Acosta loves him like nobody loves anybody.

00:36:01.000 Jim Acosta, ladies, find you a man who loves you like Jim Acosta loves Jim Acosta.

00:36:04.000 But Jim Acosta apparently has a new friend in this regard.

00:36:08.000 This friend is Olivia Nuzzi. 0.99

00:36:10.000 I'm not sure how her last name is pronounced.

00:36:13.000 She's a New York Magazine correspondent.

00:36:15.000 Yesterday, she was at the White House, and she asked this question to President Trump, which is insanely useless, and obviously directed at just getting Trump to blow up, so then the media can have a headline about how Trump blows up, which is completely not only useless, but counterproductive at this point in time, when you know people are still out there dying, and we're trying to figure out the best way to reopen the economy. 0.96

00:36:34.000 Nothing I like better than a bunch of posturing crap from the media. 0.84

00:36:37.000 If an American president loses more Americans over the course of six weeks than died in the entirety of the Vietnam War, does he deserve to be re-elected? 0.97

00:36:47.000 So, yeah, we've lost a lot of people.

00:36:50.000 But if you look at what original projections were, 2.2 million.

00:36:55.000 We're probably heading to 60,000, 70,000.

00:36:58.000 It's far too many.

00:36:59.000 One person is too many for this.

00:37:02.000 Yeah, is Trump handling that question better than, frankly, I would handle that question?

00:37:05.000 What a despicable question.

00:37:07.000 First of all, the Vietnam War was a war that we got into by choice politically.

00:37:12.000 Second of all, the federal government was lying throughout the Vietnam War about what exactly was going on.

00:37:16.000 Thirdly, the media were lying about what was going on during the Vietnam War.

00:37:19.000 Fourthly, a war is not like a pandemic.

00:37:21.000 War is not contagious.

00:37:23.000 The notion that the president is responsible for anything other than the decisions that the president makes during the pandemic is insane.

00:37:30.000 If this many people die from, so let's be real about this.

00:37:33.000 If coronavirus were what?

00:37:34.000 One third is deadly?

00:37:36.000 Would anybody be talking right now about, do you deserve to be president because people are dying of the flu?

00:37:40.000 It's more deadly, and so it has greater consequences.

00:37:44.000 But does that mean that Trump is the one who is upping the death count?

00:37:47.000 How about Andrew Cuomo?

00:37:48.000 Does he deserve to be governor in a state that's lost 15,000 people?

00:37:51.000 Bill de Blasio, does he deserve to be mayor in a city that's lost 12,000 people?

00:37:55.000 And what the hell is that question? 1.00

00:37:56.000 What a stupid, asinine, ridiculous question. 1.00

00:37:58.000 Ari Fleischer, by the way, called out Olivia Nuzzi about the question, because it's a ridiculous posturing question that is designed to get her on TV, and it did. 1.00

00:38:05.000 And she immediately responded, shut the F up, which is just great journalism-ing. 0.95

00:38:08.000 Massive, massive journalism-ing. 0.88

00:38:10.000 You wonder why the American people don't trust your takes on this stuff, guys?

00:38:13.000 You wonder why they are relegated to looking at YouTube for videos of doctors who they think are going to confirm what they already thought?

00:38:19.000 This is why.

00:38:20.000 Because you're not focused on bringing the American people the truth.

00:38:23.000 You're focused on a gotcha game with Trump.

00:38:25.000 Meanwhile, protecting Joe Biden.

00:38:27.000 I mean, the warm relationship between the Democratic Party and the media has never been in more fine fettle than it is right now.

00:38:32.000 Listen to Nancy Pelosi and Stephanie Ruhle basically giving each other a mutual massage on MSNBC yesterday.

00:38:38.000 Thank you.

00:38:39.000 Thank you so much.

00:38:40.000 Thank you for this additional $320 billion.

00:38:43.000 American business needs it.

00:38:45.000 I appreciate all that everyone in our government is doing right now to help us in this trying time.

00:38:49.000 Thanks for your time this morning.

00:38:51.000 Well, thank you for your, um, objective view of it all, because that's all very helpful.

00:38:58.000 It's all very helpful.

00:38:59.000 Thank you so much for your attention.

00:39:00.000 It's important.

00:39:01.000 Thank you.

00:39:03.000 Just unbelievable.

00:39:05.000 Just, you know, Buy our dinner or something.

00:39:08.000 I mean, this is really, it's just, it's insane.

00:39:10.000 So the media continued to just be awful at their jobs.

00:39:13.000 Speaking of awful at their jobs, this is all reinforced by the fact that they are political hacks, like insane political hacks.

00:39:19.000 So this becomes most obvious when you look at the media coverage of Joe Biden's accuser. 0.74

00:39:23.000 So there's now more evidence against Joe Biden that he sexually assaulted a woman than there ever was against Brett Kavanaugh.

00:39:29.000 Like a lot more evidence. 0.72

00:39:30.000 Okay, Tara Reade is a woman who came forward to suggest that Joe Biden, basically when she was a staffer in his office, Got her into a lonely hallway and then proceeded to sexually assault her, picking up her skirt and then penetrating her with his fingers. 0.50

00:39:45.000 I mean, like, really bad stuff.

00:39:47.000 Now it turns out that not only is there tape of her mother calling into Larry King and asking questions about how staffers are supposed to report bad things, but also some of her neighbors, two separate neighbors, have come forward to say that the woman had told them about the incident shortly after it occurred.

00:40:01.000 One is her brother, Colin Moulton, and also a friend who asked to remain anonymous for fear of retribution.

00:40:06.000 And now two more sources have come forward to corroborate certain details about Reed's claims.

00:40:10.000 One of them, according to Business Insider, a former neighbor of Reed's, has told Insider for the first time on the record that Reed disclosed details about the alleged assault to her in the mid-1990s.

00:40:19.000 The woman's name is Linda LaCasse.

00:40:21.000 She lives next door to Reid in the mid-90s.

00:40:22.000 She said this happened.

00:40:23.000 I know it did because I remember talking about it.

00:40:25.000 The other source is a woman named Lorraine Sanchez, who worked with Reid in the office of a California state senator in the mid-90s.

00:40:30.000 And she told Insider she recalls Reid complaining at the time that her former boss in Washington, D.C.

00:40:34.000 had sexually harassed her and that she had been fired after raising concerns.

00:40:37.000 Now listen, none of this means that Biden is necessarily guilty.

00:40:41.000 Maybe it didn't go like the woman said it went.

00:40:43.000 Maybe the woman misperceived somehow, although it's difficult to imagine how you misperceive being sexually assaulted.

00:40:48.000 Right?

00:40:50.000 Maybe there's some disconnect, okay?

00:40:51.000 Perhaps that is true.

00:40:53.000 I mean, there's no evidence other than what this woman had to say, and the fact that she had contemporaneous accounts of it to people does not mean it went down the way that she thinks that it went down, right?

00:41:00.000 I mean, this is what innocence until proven guilty means, and I hold that standard for Brett Kavanaugh, and I hold that standard for Joe Biden, too.

00:41:06.000 But Joe Biden doesn't hold that standard for Brett Kavanaugh, so Joe Biden doesn't get to hold that standard for Joe Biden, either.

00:41:11.000 But what's incredible is the media differential, the media coverage of this stuff.

00:41:15.000 So much insane journalisming.

00:41:17.000 Like, incredible levels of journalisming.

00:41:19.000 Here's the Washington Post headline yesterday about this.

00:41:22.000 Covering this for basically the first time.

00:41:24.000 The Washington Post headline on Twitter read, quote, Is that even English?

00:41:29.000 in allegations against Biden amplify efforts to question his behavior.

00:41:33.000 Is that even English?

00:41:35.000 Is that even English?

00:41:37.000 I mean, shouldn't the actual headline be two more women come forward and confirm that Biden's sexual assault accuser told them about sexual assault in mid 90s?

00:41:47.000 Like, is Isn't that the headline?

00:41:49.000 You know, a headline in English?

00:41:50.000 What does that even mean?

00:41:51.000 Developments in allegations against Biden amplify efforts to question his behavior.

00:41:55.000 What are the allegations?

00:41:56.000 What were they about?

00:41:57.000 What was the topic?

00:41:59.000 Who's amplified?

00:42:01.000 That's Swahili. 0.82

00:42:02.000 You're not even speaking English at this point.

00:42:05.000 What the media will do in order to protect Democrats is insane. 0.54

00:42:08.000 Insane.

00:42:09.000 Development and allegations against Biden.

00:42:11.000 So I assume they mean by that two additional people saying that this woman told them about it.

00:42:15.000 Amplify efforts to question his behavior.

00:42:18.000 Meaning that people are now going to question his behavior.

00:42:20.000 So, notice that is the Andrew Clavin rule, and it's exactly correct. 0.96

00:42:23.000 When a Republican does something bad, the story is the Republican does something bad.

00:42:26.000 When a Democrat does something bad, the story is the Republicans are attacking Democrats for doing something bad.

00:42:32.000 And that's the actual headline.

00:42:34.000 Right?

00:42:35.000 The headline that was put out by the Washington Post changed, I assume, after I tweeted about it.

00:42:40.000 Because the actual headline originally was just a Republican's pounce headline.

00:42:44.000 Now I have to go look for it because I'm loading the link from last night and actually changed the headline.

00:42:49.000 Okay, the headline now is Trump allies highlight new claims regarding allegations against Biden.

00:42:55.000 Ah, the Trump allies.

00:42:56.000 I'm sorry, they didn't change it.

00:42:57.000 Trump allies highlighting new claims regarding allegations against Biden.

00:43:01.000 That's the key here, is that Trump allies are focusing on this.

00:43:05.000 Again, what is newsy about the fact that Republicans are reporting on bad things Democrats did?

00:43:10.000 That's like arguing that after After Mark Foley, the Republican congressperson, was nailing pages in the mail pages in the House back in 2006.

00:43:20.000 The story is Democrats focus on Mark Foley accusations.

00:43:25.000 That's the headline, not Congresswoman nailing mail pages in the House of Representatives.

00:43:29.000 It's just incredible.

00:43:30.000 It's incredible.

00:43:31.000 And by the way, the media coverage differential took them like a month to even report on the accusation.

00:43:35.000 You think they would have waited a month to report on any accusation about any Republican?

00:43:40.000 Of course not.

00:43:41.000 Meanwhile, you've got Joe's VP candidates running around trying to garner attention.

00:43:46.000 Three females, by the way. 0.99

00:43:47.000 Kamala Harris and Amy Klobuchar.

00:43:50.000 Actually, four.

00:43:50.000 And Elizabeth Warren and Stacey Abrams, right?

00:43:53.000 All four females. 0.59

00:43:54.000 And Gretchen Whitmer.

00:43:55.000 So five different females going around, doing press to try and attract Joe Biden's attention. 1.00

00:44:00.000 I mean, Stacey Abrams is so desperate at this point that she basically broke into Biden's kitchen and boiled a rabbit. 0.69

00:44:05.000 I'm not going to be ignored, Joe!

00:44:07.000 But not one of them has been asked about the Tara Reid allegations.

00:44:10.000 And particularly Kamala Harris, who was the leader in the Brett Kavanaugh's serial rapist routine.

00:44:16.000 She's not been asked a single question about this.

00:44:17.000 So here she was yesterday, Kamala Harris saying, Joe always talks plain, love me some Joe Biden.

00:44:22.000 Five seconds ago, she was saying that she believes Joe Biden's accusers.

00:44:25.000 Here's Kamala Harris. 0.99

00:44:27.000 He is saying that there should be an equitable allocation of recovery funds.

00:44:31.000 What does that mean?

00:44:32.000 That's a fancy way for saying what Joe always talks, plain talk.

00:44:36.000 He speaks straight.

00:44:37.000 And what he's saying is that I want to make sure every community gets enough so that they end up being equal.

00:44:44.000 So that's a real different point than equal share.

00:44:46.000 He's talking about equitable, meaning at the result will be everyone ends up being equal.

00:44:53.000 Okay, and here is Kamala Harris like a few months ago talking about Joe Biden's accusers who say that he was sniffing their hair and massaging them.

00:44:59.000 I believe them and I respect them being able to tell their story and having the courage to do it.

00:45:07.000 Do you believe that the Vice President should enter this race?

00:45:11.000 Oh, he's going to have to make that decision for himself.

00:45:13.000 I wouldn't tell him what to do.

00:45:16.000 It's just unbelievable.

00:45:17.000 It's just amazing.

00:45:18.000 And now she's flipped, and, oh, Joe always talks plain.

00:45:20.000 He's a really good guy.

00:45:22.000 The media, when they are not busy, blaming Trump for Vietnam-era-level numbers on a pandemic, which, again, not comparable.

00:45:28.000 Not comparable.

00:45:30.000 A war is not like a pandemic.

00:45:31.000 When they're not busy doing that routine, you know, and just trying to play this tete-a-tete game with Trump where they just yell at each other and then both of them make headlines.

00:45:39.000 When they're not busy doing that, they're busy trying to cover for Joe Biden and pretend that none of this ever happened.

00:45:43.000 But don't worry, guys.

00:45:44.000 Journalism-ing is going to continue as at will.

00:45:47.000 The self-congratulatory nature of the journalists are just, it's just, it's so off-putting.

00:45:52.000 Just a few days ago, the New York Times put out an opinion piece that suggested it was a column by Ginia Belafonte profiling a coronavirus victim named Joe Joyce.

00:46:00.000 It included a passage in which Joyce's daughter suggested her dad went on a cruise after seeing on Hannity and Fox News the outbreak was under control.

00:46:07.000 Sean Hannity covered this because Hannity suggested correctly That at the time, a lot of people were saying that the virus was under control, including Bill de Blasio and Andrew Cuomo.

00:46:15.000 And more than that, the timeline just doesn't match up.

00:46:18.000 They cited comments from Sean Hannity that does not match up with the timeline.

00:46:24.000 He went on the cruise before Hannity said a lot of the things he was quoted as saying.

00:46:27.000 So Sean wrote a letter to the New York Times and said, I want a retraction.

00:46:31.000 And here was the New York Times' reply.

00:46:34.000 In response to your request for an apology and retraction, our answer is no.

00:46:37.000 That was the entire reply.

00:46:38.000 And look how brave we are, standing up to that evil Sean Hannity.

00:46:43.000 Slow clap, guys.

00:46:44.000 Slow clap.

00:46:45.000 Amazing.

00:46:48.000 And meanwhile, Andy Lack, who is one of the editors, he's the chairman of NBC News and MSNBC, he wrote a piece over at NBC News called, Journalism is under attack from coronavirus and the White House, but we are winning.

00:46:59.000 We are winning.

00:47:00.000 Wow.

00:47:01.000 He says, President Trump came into office railing against many of the foundations of our democratic institutions, including a free press.

00:47:07.000 40 months into his administration, coverage of the coronavirus outbreak is the latest sign that contrary to conventional wisdom, he hasn't laid a glove on serious journalism.

00:47:15.000 His attacks, most recently against excellent reporters like Jonathan Karl, Yamiche Alcindor, Peter Alexander, and Paula Reid, put the bully in bully pulpit, but they haven't shaken the soul of the First Amendment.

00:47:26.000 Wow, wow.

00:47:27.000 Don't, don't stretch your arms.

00:47:29.000 Don't, don't dislocate yourself.

00:47:31.000 Patting yourself on the back there, Andy Lack, as faith in media drops to record lows.

00:47:35.000 Well done all the way across the board.

00:47:37.000 You wonder why people don't trust you?

00:47:38.000 There are plenty of reasons why people don't trust the media.

00:47:40.000 And they are all good reasons.

00:47:42.000 That doesn't mean the media is always not telling, that the media is always lying, or that all information out of the media is bad.

00:47:46.000 That's not true.

00:47:47.000 But People have a right to question your motives and your methods of reporting when you act the way you act with regard to everything from coverage of the White House to coverage of Joe Biden.

00:47:59.000 Alright, time for a thing I like and then some things that I hate.

00:48:01.000 So, things that I like.

00:48:02.000 Over the weekend, had the opportunity to watch with my parents.

00:48:04.000 We did a little bit of a movie night.

00:48:06.000 A movie called The Current War.

00:48:08.000 I don't know what the original version looked like.

00:48:09.000 This is the director's cut.

00:48:10.000 The director's cut is very good.

00:48:12.000 It's a good movie.

00:48:12.000 It has about 60% on Rotten Tomatoes.

00:48:14.000 The original has about 30%.

00:48:15.000 I'm not sure why it's only at 60%.

00:48:17.000 The movie is compelling.

00:48:18.000 The performances are really good, particularly Benedict Cumberbatch as Thomas Edison.

00:48:22.000 Michael Shannon, who is one of my quirky favorites, plays one of the other electricity magnates, George Westinghouse.

00:48:32.000 The movie's really good.

00:48:33.000 It's really interesting, and it's about a period in time when industry was in competition and sort of the dirty tricks that were played by Edison.

00:48:38.000 Edison was a ruthless, ruthless dude, and he was very ruthless about going after his competitors and trying to run them out of business using the most scurrilous strategies possible.

00:48:47.000 The movie doesn't go easy on Edison, but it also paints a really well-rounded picture of him.

00:48:51.000 Here's a little bit of the preview.

00:48:54.000 Did I mention that his system's lethal? 0.85

00:48:56.000 His current kills people. 0.99

00:49:00.000 He's playing dirty. 0.98

00:49:01.000 You can't, too.

00:49:04.000 You can't see the real force that moves things, and it's not ACDC, it's not currents.

00:49:10.000 It's currency.

00:49:11.000 This is costing us a fortune!

00:49:13.000 Westinghouse stole from me!

00:49:17.000 My motor.

00:49:18.000 That is our future.

00:49:20.000 Get up, get up, get up!

00:49:21.000 You're fired.

00:49:21.000 There's never gonna be anything named Tesla ever again.

00:49:26.000 Okay, it's actually, it's definitely worth the watch.

00:49:29.000 It's an enjoyable, interesting movie.

00:49:32.000 I really don't understand why it didn't get better reviews.

00:49:34.000 Go check it out right now, The Current War.

00:49:36.000 It's available on Amazon Prime.

00:49:38.000 You can order it a little bit early.

00:49:39.000 Okay, time for some things that I hate.

00:49:41.000 If you think that Hollywood is not biased, all you have to do is take a look at the fact that immediately after leaving office, the Obamas got a deal from Netflix.

00:49:52.000 Remember when the Bushes got a deal from Netflix?

00:49:54.000 I remember that.

00:49:54.000 No?

00:49:55.000 No?

00:49:55.000 Remember when they did a really nice documentary about Laura Bush and the troubles she had to suffer?

00:49:59.000 Or about George W. Bush and the situations he's had to suffer through?

00:50:02.000 Remember all of that?

00:50:03.000 Remember when they just threw contracts, just real, real contracts at Republicans leaving office?

00:50:09.000 I remember that.

00:50:10.000 No, I don't remember any of that.

00:50:11.000 Instead, the Obamas leave office and immediately they're ingested into the Hollywood system.

00:50:14.000 Because one thing you have to know about Hollywood, and I know Hollywood fairly well.

00:50:18.000 I wrote a 400-page book on it, and I know tons of people at the top levels of the industry.

00:50:22.000 Not to drop any names, because I won't, because then they would be unemployed tomorrow if people knew that they knew me.

00:50:26.000 Seriously, I've met with top members of Hollywood, people whose names you would know.

00:50:31.000 I meet with them off the books at local restaurants back when that was allowed, wearing sunglasses and hats.

00:50:38.000 Because no one must ever know that conservatives exist in Hollywood.

00:50:42.000 This must remain a massive secret.

00:50:44.000 Well, if you don't believe that, Netflix is about to drop a documentary about the former first lady, Michelle Obama.

00:50:51.000 And it's produced by Barack and Michelle Obama, which is not the most self-aggrandizing thing ever.

00:50:57.000 It's maybe like the second most self-aggrandizing thing ever.

00:51:00.000 How did that pitch meeting go exactly?

00:51:01.000 Christian Toto from Hollywood in Toto points this out.

00:51:05.000 How did that pitch meeting go?

00:51:06.000 They're sitting around at Obama Productions, and they're like, what should we produce next?

00:51:09.000 And the intern goes, how about a documentary about the Obamas?

00:51:12.000 Everyone's like, that's a great idea!

00:51:15.000 We love those guys!

00:51:17.000 Becoming, which is directed by Nadia Halgren, will take viewers behind the scenes as Michelle Obama travels to 34 cities on the tour for her book.

00:51:23.000 It will be released on May 6th.

00:51:24.000 This makes the second hagiography about a Democratic mainstay in the last three months.

00:51:30.000 They had Hillary Clinton, they did this celebratory documentary about Hillary Clinton on Netflix.

00:51:36.000 Then you had the Taylor Swift documentary, which wasn't about a Democratic mainstay, but it turned her into a political activist.

00:51:40.000 We mocked the bleep out of that trailer because it was really a very silly trailer.

00:51:45.000 Miss Americana, is that what it was called? 0.80

00:51:48.000 And now they have a new one, Becoming.

00:51:51.000 It's the latest film since the former president and his wife signed a landmark deal with the streaming service in 2018.

00:51:55.000 The pair, who run Higher Ground Productions, were involved in Crip Camp, the Nicole Noonhan and James LeBrecht-directed film about a summer camp for teens with disabilities.

00:52:04.000 Their first film, American Factory, won the Best Documentary Feature Oscar because, of course, it had Obama's imprimatur on it.

00:52:09.000 When I say that I know people in Hollywood, that was to say, I have sort of lost my train of thought, that was to say that in Hollywood, not only are they biased, but for Hollywood, D.C.

00:52:18.000 Democrats are celebrities.

00:52:19.000 The way that it works in the rest of the United States is if you're in Hollywood, you're a celebrity.

00:52:22.000 In Hollywood, the celebrities to people in Hollywood are people like the Obamas.

00:52:26.000 Obama was, in fact, the first celebrity president.

00:52:27.000 I've said this before, that Barack Obama is basically the weird, bizarro, world polar negative, polarized photo of Donald Trump.

00:52:34.000 Donald Trump was a celebrity who became president.

00:52:37.000 Barack Obama was a president who was a celebrity.

00:52:39.000 He was a celebrity president.

00:52:41.000 When people say that we're fundamentally unserious because Donald Trump is president, let me point out that we elected a first-term Democratic senator from Chicago who had never done anything.

00:52:48.000 Anything.

00:52:49.000 He made a speech at the 2004 Democratic National Convention.

00:52:52.000 He wrote a book.

00:52:53.000 That's it.

00:52:53.000 Those are all the accomplishments.

00:52:55.000 And we elected that guy president because he was made a celebrity.

00:52:58.000 And regardless of what you think about Barack Obama, As president, the fact is he was a celebrity president.

00:53:03.000 The man spent an enormous amount of time hobnobbing with celebrities, far more than Donald Trump does, because celebrities would want to be in his company a lot more, because he's palatable and worshipped.

00:53:13.000 So that is great news.

00:53:15.000 So Becoming is going to be directed by Nadia Halgren, a filmmaker and cinematographer from the Bronx.

00:53:19.000 She's best known as the DP on Oscar-nominated and Sundance Grand Jury Prize-winning Trouble the Water and CNN's When We Rise, Michelle Obama's mission to educate girls around the world.

00:53:28.000 Oh, so remember, CNN also did a Hey Geographic documentary about Michelle Obama.

00:53:32.000 By the way, the remaking of Michelle Obama is one of the most astonishing transformations in modern American political history.

00:53:37.000 It really is incredible.

00:53:38.000 In 2008, this was a lady who was going around saying that this is the first time she'd been proud of her country.

00:53:42.000 Remember, she was really radical in 2008.

00:53:44.000 Like, super radical.

00:53:45.000 She was perceived as Hillary Clinton circa 1992 in 2008. 0.93

00:53:48.000 Now, she's Oprah Winfrey.

00:53:50.000 And that is really thanks to the hard work of the people in Hollywood.

00:53:55.000 Michelle Obama said, those months I spent traveling, meeting and connecting with people in cities across the globe, drove home the idea that what we share in common is deep and real and can't be messed with.

00:54:03.000 In groups large and small, young and old, unique and united, we came together and shared stories, filling those spaces with our joys, worries and dreams.

00:54:10.000 We processed the past and imagined a better future.

00:54:12.000 In talking about the idea of becoming, many of us dared to say our hopes out loud.

00:54:16.000 I treasure the memories and that sense of connection now more than ever as we struggle together to weather this pandemic, as we care for our loved ones, tend to our communities, try to keep up with work and school while coping with huge amounts of lost confusion and uncertainty.

00:54:28.000 humanity.

00:54:29.000 And then she said that people would find respite in the film.

00:54:33.000 She says that the DP understands that the director understands the meaning of community, power of community.

00:54:38.000 Her work is magically able to depict it.

00:54:40.000 Oh, how beautiful, how beautiful.

00:54:42.000 And of course, all of the stills from the film are people crying with Michelle Obama as she gives them hugs.

00:54:49.000 Now, you know who was good at giving hugs and who was a nice lady? 1.00

00:54:51.000 Laura Bush.

00:54:52.000 And they never did any of this stuff.

00:54:53.000 Laura Bush, I remember when I was at UCLA, the Anderson Business School was protested because Laura Bush was supposed to speak at commencement.

00:54:59.000 They've never made a documentary about Laura Bush, who, by the way, is a class act. 0.90

00:55:02.000 And the only thing they've ever said about Nancy Reagan is that she's a nasty cuss. 1.00

00:55:04.000 The only thing that Hollywood will ever make about a Republican woman is this ridiculous series called Mrs. America. 1.00

00:55:10.000 Mrs. America on, on... What is it? 0.96

00:55:14.000 FX?

00:55:15.000 This ridiculous series about Phyllis Schlafly who's supposed to be just the worst person in the world where you have Cate Blanchett doing her brittle Cate Blanchett routine because obviously the greatest villainous in the world is a woman who stood up against the radicals who are pushing the Equal Rights Amendment back in 1976. 1.00

00:55:31.000 By the way, a story that America desperately needs right now in 2020 is a biopic of Phyllis Schlafly.

00:55:36.000 The clamor was enormous.

00:55:38.000 People were just dying to see it.

00:55:40.000 At least you can make the case that a Michelle Obama documentary is based on the success of her book, right?

00:55:44.000 The Coming has been a massive bestseller.

00:55:45.000 At least you can say there's demand for it.

00:55:47.000 Was there tremendous demand in Hollywood to greenlight a story about Phyllis Schlafly in the Equal Rights Amendment? 0.98

00:55:52.000 Hollywood is ridiculous. 0.60

00:55:53.000 Just as I said earlier, the media are not trusted by America. 0.99

00:55:56.000 Hollywood is not trusted by America.

00:55:58.000 And frankly, I think there are going to be a lot of people across the country who are not particularly shedding a lot of tears for the people in Hollywood who are going to be losing a lot of money during this pandemic as theaters close down. 0.94

00:56:07.000 The political bias in Hollywood is ridiculous. 0.94

00:56:10.000 It is insane. 0.87

00:56:11.000 And it does radicalize the culture wars.

00:56:15.000 The Republicans feel like they've lost the high ground of culture, and that means that Republicans feel relegated to the realm of politics.

00:56:21.000 So if we're going to pour all of our energies into politics, man, then we are going to punch there.

00:56:24.000 Then we are going to punch there.

00:56:26.000 That is the basic philosophy of a lot of people on the right.

00:56:29.000 It's why Trump is so popular, because he's a culture warrior, not really because he's a politician.

00:56:33.000 Because he does fight back against the perception that the commanding heights of culture and decency are carried by the same left.

00:56:39.000 They'll greenlight any film that rips into the right and praises the left.

00:56:42.000 Alrighty, we'll be back here tomorrow with much, much more, or two hours later today.

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The Media Can’t Reade | Ep. 999

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