On today's show, Ben Shapiro is joined by a piece from the Columbia Journalism Review's Public Editor, Ariana Pekeri, about CNN's failure to properly prepare for a Joe Biden White House in 2021. Plus, a new round of layoffs at CNN, and an update on what's going on with the stock market. Ben Shapiro's show is sponsored by ExpressVPN. Your data is your business, your data is protected, your business protected at ExpressVPN, and your data protected at Parcast. If you like what you hear here, please HIT SUBSCRIBE and leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts and other major podcasting platforms. You can also join our FB group, The Ben Shapiro Show, and join the conversation by using the hashtag on that hashtag , and find us on Insta and tag to be featured on the next episode! Thanks for listening and share the podcast with your fellow podcasting friends! . Timestamps: 1:00:00 - What's next for CNN? 2:30 - What will CNN do after 2020? 3:15 - Is Joe Biden the next president? 4:00 5:00 | What would CNN do in 2021? 6:40 - How will CNN position itself in a post-Trump White House? 7:50 - Will Biden's 2020 look? 8: What is next? 9:20 - What does CNN need to do to counter Trump? 11: What comes after Trump and what is next after 2020 after 2020 12:30 | What is the real problem? 15: What does the media have to do after Trump & what will CNN need? 16:35 - What is CNN have in 2020 after Trump vs. Trump and how will CNN have? 17:40 | What does that mean for the media? 18:40 19:30 21:10 - Is there a broken grading curve? 22:10 | What s next for Trump and the media will CNN's role in the 2020 election? 26:20 | What will the media benefit from a Biden administration? 27:40 // 27:00 + 28:10 Is it possible? 29: What's the best way to cover a president who is well versed in reality? 35:00 // Is it a broken curve?
00:00:01.000Despite media predictions it wouldn't happen by year's end, the Electoral College votes for Joe Biden, and Attorney General William Barr steps down.
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00:00:21.000Slash Ben, we'll get to all the news in just one second.
00:00:23.000First, you may have noticed it's been pretty chaotic out there this year.
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00:01:42.000We begin this morning with a fascinating piece over at the Columbia Journalism Review.
00:01:48.000This piece was not meant to be a rip on CNN, but it is in fact a rip on CNN because it just goes to show how the sausage is made when it comes to the media.
00:01:57.000Media very often are not following the news, they are creating the news, or they've decided to craft a narrative and they are going to fit the news into the narrative.
00:02:05.000And this becomes perfectly obvious in this piece from the public editor of the Columbia Journalism Review, Ariana Pekeri.
00:02:11.000It's called CNN Public Editor What Comes After Trump and COVID.
00:02:15.000It seems like a good moment, with the ends of the Trump administration and global pandemic in sight, to ponder what is next for CNN.
00:02:20.000After years of long, chaotic days, news producers on the brink of burnout or well past it are certain to welcome a time of relative calm, as long as they are able to retain their jobs.
00:02:29.000WarnerMedia announced a new round of layoffs this fall.
00:02:31.000At a recent company town hall, its chief executive Jason Killar was asked if CNN was at risk, as some have speculated.
00:02:37.000Killar didn't explicitly say no, a reporter noted at a deadline, but appeared bullish on the cable news network, highlighting its recent ratings success.
00:02:44.000Inside the network, according to informal conversations with several staffers in the weeks since the election, there is pride that CNN ended the month of November on top in the coveted 25- to 54-year-old demographic, both in primetime and in total-day audiences.
00:02:55.000There's a belief the network may benefit from the fact that Fox News fans are depressed and MSNBC has not yet figured out how to position itself in a changed news cycle.
00:03:05.000Like every other news network, it may struggle in 2021.
00:03:07.000CNN must figure out how to cover a Biden administration that isn't defined by conflict.
00:03:13.000Having a president in Trump who is well-versed in reality TV and whose main aim was to outrage and troll his political opponents has been a boom for ratings.
00:03:20.000Likewise, Trump may have broken the grading curve.
00:03:22.000Think about the potential controversy if Joe Biden had been the first to nominate a recent general to lead the Pentagon.
00:03:27.000And so this Columbia Journalism Review article is all about how CNN is now looking for a narrative.
00:03:31.000And this is the dirty little secret about how the media do their business.
00:03:47.000And if that narrative sells, well, that's what they're looking for.
00:03:50.000And so right now, CNN is looking for a new narrative.
00:03:52.000Now, we know that this is what mainstream establishment legacy media outlets do.
00:03:56.000We know that the New York Times, for example, in the aftermath of the failed attempt by Robert Mueller's team to go get Donald Trump, That the New York Times, Dean Beckett, held an editorial meeting with all of staff and said, we are going to shift resources into covering the racism narrative.
00:04:09.000And then magically, voila, within the next year, every single story turned into a racism story.
00:04:16.000We got the 1619 Project and all of this, right?
00:04:19.000We know that the New York Times officially stated that they were following a narrative. Now, usually newsrooms are called newsrooms because they cover the news, not because they're narrative rooms. But let's be real about this.
00:04:31.000Legacy media, establishment media, they're not there to cover the news. They're there to make the news. So what exactly will CNN be looking to push over the next few years?
00:04:38.000According to the Columbia Journalism Review, the chatter within the network is that there's an appetite for a dramatic news storyline to replace Trump, most likely to be propagated internal discussions had suggested through punditry instead of more expensive and risky reporting.
00:04:50.000It could put the moderate Biden administration in opposition to those on the extremes of his party.
00:04:54.000Or, depending on Republican behavior, the narrative may dissect Biden's prediction that he was best suited to forge bipartisanship.
00:05:00.000The network will also seek a Biden whisperer, a journalist impeccably connected, as the New York Times' Maggie Haberman has been with Trump, who can offer access and micro scoops on the new administration.
00:05:11.000The well-intentioned journalist at CNN says the Columbia Journalism Review may still have to fight to do anything other than conflict-ridden segments that seek drama to juice ratings.
00:05:20.000Okay, CNN is going to look for whatever is the juiciest, and not only whatever is the juiciest, but whatever is most calibrated to please their leftist audience.
00:05:26.000Notice the narratives that Columbia Journalism Review is suggesting.
00:05:29.000One is Joe Biden is too moderate, and the other is Joe Biden is too moderate, right?
00:05:33.000Those are the two narratives they are suggesting.
00:05:34.000One is that he's too moderate for the radical wing of his party.
00:05:37.000And the other is he's too moderate compared to these terrible, awful, evil, no good, very bad Republicans.
00:05:42.000And it is this drive from the media to create narrative that has driven the backlash against the media.
00:05:48.000It is this drive by the media to craft narrative that means that we no longer trust the media.
00:05:54.000And it's why there's so much doubt over our institutions.
00:05:56.000I've been saying this for the past week.
00:05:58.000To use the metaphor again, if the media are the glasses through which we view the world, and if it turns out the lens is cracked, it makes it very difficult to discern what is beyond the lenses.
00:06:07.000And as we see from our media, they are a cracked pair of glasses.
00:06:11.000They are shading the world in a particular direction, and so you don't know what to trust.
00:06:15.000And this is why there's so much endemic mistrust in all of our institutions, up to and including our elections.
00:06:20.000Okay, well, last night, the Electoral College did vote to elect Joe Biden.
00:06:25.000Obviously, the state votes had been certified in states ranging from Michigan to Pennsylvania to Georgia.
00:06:30.000There's still, as we'll get to, an ongoing legal case in Georgia.
00:06:34.000But with the vote of the Electoral College, that means that Joe Biden is officially the president-elect, at least until he is ratified January 6th by the Congress of the United States.
00:06:42.000Here is what that looked like last night when the Electoral College, which again, you have basically people meeting in every state, they voted to elect Joe Biden president, which again, is in accordance with the votes in those states as currently certified by those states.
00:06:55.000I will now announce the tally of the vote for the office of president of the United States for Joseph R. Biden of Delaware, a Democrat.
00:07:45.000It is sort of a day to step back and celebrate democracy, but it is also a day that has responsibility attached to it.
00:07:54.000Our responsibility to show all the viewers, to show the country and the world, this process unfold while Donald Trump and his allies want to suggest falsely without any, any realm of fact that the election was rigged or stolen or some way not what it is.
00:08:13.000So much journalism happening right there.
00:08:16.000In a way, the 2016 was not a magical day for democracy.
00:08:19.000This was just, it was a great day because CNN has a narrative to drive.
00:08:23.000Now, the Republicans in many of these states have put up what they call alternative slates of electors.
00:08:27.000Those electors have not been certified by the state legislature, so they don't actually really mean much.
00:08:31.000The only way they would mean something is if there were a legal challenge that would be elevated to the Supreme Court, which would overturn the electoral slates that have been created in these various states, or it got to Congress, and then there was some way That Congress voted to overrule those state electors and then they would put in these replacement electors.
00:08:45.000That isn't going to happen, but that is what has been happening on the ground as far as what Republicans are doing.
00:08:51.000Now, all of this tied into the Joe Biden narrative.
00:08:53.000So Joe Biden decided that he was going to do a victory speech last night.
00:08:56.000Joe Biden didn't have to do a victory speech last night.
00:08:59.000He did a victory speech the night of the election.
00:09:01.000And in fact, he's going to get to do another victory speech, presumably on Inauguration Day, when he's inaugurated in January.
00:09:07.000So why exactly did he bother to do this victory speech again?
00:09:24.000But he felt the necessity to go out there and do a speech about how he was going to be a president for all Americans while basically crapping on Trump and crapping on Trump supporters, which is a strategy.
00:09:33.000I don't think it's a very good strategy, but again, it ties into the broader democratic narrative, which is that Donald Trump is an enemy of democracy and Joe Biden is a friend to democracy.
00:09:42.000As we will see, there were some questions to be brought about just how much of a friend to democracy and freedom of the press Joe Biden is.
00:09:49.000And meanwhile, the media continued to craft that narrative in just one second.
00:09:51.000First, Let us talk about the fact that everybody loves waffles.
00:09:55.000Waffles are just, they're a great, great food.
00:10:05.000So over the weekend, I actually broke out the Presto Stuffler Stuffed Waffle Maker.
00:10:10.000And I put the batter in, the way it works, you put the batter in, and then you put what you want for the stuffing in the center, you put some more batter in, you flip it, and then you just let it cook.
00:12:00.000A member of the Electoral College, representing the certified winner, cast their votes for President and Vice President of the United States in an act just as old as our nation itself.
00:12:14.000Once again, in America, the rule of law, our constitution, and the will of the people prevail.
00:12:22.000Our democracy pushed, tested, threatened, proved to be resilient, true, and strong.
00:12:29.000Okay, so again, this is part of the broader narrative, which is that Trump filing lawsuits in a variety of states is somehow a threat to democracy.
00:12:37.000You know, it's not a threat to democracy.
00:12:39.000Working within the actual system of the democracy in order to challenge election results, whether you bring the evidence and you overturn the results, whether you don't bring the evidence and you don't, the process worked.
00:12:50.000And the fact that Trump challenged the election, You know, he had every right to do that.
00:12:53.000I think some of the things he was saying were not accurate.
00:12:57.000I think that many of the claims that he has made are not backed by sufficient evidence to actually show their truth.
00:13:01.000But the idea that democracy was ever truly under threat here is pretty ridiculous on its face.
00:13:06.000And yet that is the narrative that's going to be driven because, again, for Democrats, the rule is when they win, democracy worked.
00:13:12.000When they lose, democracy did not work.
00:13:13.000So when Donald Trump won in 2016, democracy did not work.
00:13:16.000In fact, I have right in front of me, four years ago, a bunch of different famous people on the left talking about how democracy had not worked because Donald Trump had won.
00:13:27.000December 12th, 2016, John Podesta of the Clinton campaign, he literally said, Involving whether electors have a solemn responsibility under the Constitution to have their questions addressed.
00:13:39.000He was saying the electors, right, a bipartisan slate of electors back in 2016 said Hillary Clinton won the popular vote.
00:13:45.000Maybe we should vote for Hillary Clinton in the Electoral College.
00:13:47.000And John Podesta of the Clinton campaign was like, those questions deserve to have answers.
00:13:51.000Joy Reid tweeted out an opinion piece from the Washington Post titled, The Constitution lets the Electoral College choose the winner.
00:14:01.000Captain, I love democracy over there now.
00:14:03.000He tweeted out, On December 6th, 2016, Fun fact, states decide how to apportion their electors.
00:14:09.000They could give them all to, say, whichever candidate won the majority of counties.
00:14:13.000Jonathan Weissman of the New York Times said the framers left electors free to choose.
00:14:16.000They should exercise choice by leading the election as the people decided it.
00:14:20.000Right, so there was a whole push by the left in 2016 to overturn the results of the Electoral College and to push against how the Electoral College worked.
00:14:26.000But now we are being told, of course, that anybody who challenged the results of election in legal processes inside courts across the nation, that all of this was anti-democratic.
00:14:37.000Nope, that is perfectly within the boundaries of how all of this was supposed to work.
00:14:44.000And the reason that we know that Joe Biden knows this is because if you go all the way back to 2016, there was an attempt, actually on January 6th, 2017, rather.
00:14:53.000That was the date on which Congress had to ratify the Electoral College when Donald Trump was elected.
00:14:57.000And you know who had to preside over the ratification?
00:15:00.000Was Vice President, then Vice President, Joe Biden.
00:15:04.000tried to overturn the results of the Electoral College in early January of 2017.
00:15:08.000Here's the New York Times reporting January 6th, 2017.
00:15:11.000One by one, the Democratic lawmakers stepped up to the microphone on Friday, holding onto their letters and an impossible dream, denying the presidency to Donald J. Trump two weeks before his inauguration.
00:15:19.000And one by one, Vice President Joseph R. Biden, presiding over a joint session of Congress to validate the Electoral College results, turned back their challenges with a stoic message, pounding his gavel without hesitation.
00:15:29.000It is over, Biden said at one point, as Republicans rose to their feet to cheer.
00:15:32.000So Biden knows better than anybody else.
00:15:34.000That there are a bunch of Democrats who are perfectly willing to overturn the results of the 2016 election.
00:15:38.000Representative Barbara Lee of California, for example, she got up and said, Mr. President, I object because people are horrified.
00:15:44.000The members, quote, spoke of voter suppression, of Russian interference, and of the bracing fear consuming many Americans.
00:15:51.000Repeatedly, Biden asked if anyone could produce an objection that was joined by a senator.
00:15:55.000He said in that case, and then when no one could, he said in that case, the objection cannot be entertained.
00:16:00.000As the exercise neared its end, Representative Maxine Waters, Democrat of California, said, I do not wish to debate. I wish to ask, is there one U.S.
00:16:07.000Biden reached for his gavel. As Biden read the final numbers, there were conspicuous demonstrations against Trump erupting among visitors to the gallery.
00:16:16.000One woman shouted, I rise to defend our democracy.
00:16:37.000The process worked as it was supposed to work.
00:16:40.000And Biden continued with this sort of quasi-vindictive victory speech, which was mostly designed to, again, suggest the narrative, which is he is super pro-democracy.
00:16:49.000But people who oppose Joe Biden don't love democracy, even if they accept the results of the Electoral College, because that's how the process works.
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00:17:50.000Alright, so Joe Biden continued with his victory speech and no necessity for this.
00:17:52.000He did this because it's all about narrative driving.
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00:18:07.000All righty. So Joe Biden continued with his victory speech and no necessity for this.
00:18:12.000He did this because it's all about narrative driving. So here he was saying, I won by the same margin that Trump did. Yes. And I'm sure that you will receive the exact same media backlash that Donald Trump did in the aftermath of his win in 2016.
00:19:45.000If the legal process worked, then it wasn't a threat to democracy, was it?
00:19:48.000I mean, seriously, he's saying, we have a process, the process worked, and then earlier he was saying that it was a tremendous threat to democracy from Trump and Team Trump.
00:19:57.000Now, again, this is all just part of the bullcrap lie that you're going to be sold over the next several years, which is that if you oppose anything that Joe Biden does, it's because you're an enemy of the majority, you're an enemy of democracy, you're a radical.
00:20:08.000That is part of the broader narrative push that is going to be made right here.
00:20:11.000Okay, now, how do you know that so much of this is narrative?
00:20:16.000Because we've been told, of course, that Joe Biden, for example, is a great friend to liberties, a friend of democracy, a friend of the press, right?
00:20:21.000Donald Trump is one of the narratives the media drove for years, is that Donald Trump was a threat to the press.
00:20:26.000The Washington Post put up a slogan on their front page, Democracy Dies in Darkness.
00:20:30.000That's the only reason they put it up there.
00:20:32.000They decided that democracy dies in darkness because the freedom of the press was at Sure, Donald Trump didn't jail journalists.
00:20:40.000Sure, he didn't surveil them in the same way that Obama did.
00:20:42.000In fact, he didn't even try to propagandize to them in even the same way that Obama did.
00:20:45.000I mean, Ben Rhodes overtly said in an interview that he was lying to an echo chamber of idiot foreign policy journalists about the Iran deal, and they just lapped it up.
00:20:53.000Certainly, Trump never received that sort of credulous media attention from the establishment media.
00:21:00.000But we were told that Trump was a radical threat to the press.
00:21:02.000So far, Joe Biden has not answered a single difficult question in the entire campaign.
00:21:06.000In the post-election period, he's not answered a single difficult question.
00:21:10.000So yesterday, he finishes his little victory speech.
00:21:13.000And Peter Doocy from Fox News immediately pipes up and says, Question, when did you know that Hunter Biden was under, was under prosecutorial threat?
00:21:22.000When did you know that he was under investigation?
00:21:25.000It's a question that he has been avoiding.
00:21:26.000It's a question that Dr. Jill Biden, I've been reliably informed by lots and lots of people that Dr. Jill Biden is in fact the greatest, she's not just a doctor, she is the greatest doctor.
00:21:35.000Like, it basically goes, Dr. Jonas Salk, Dr. Joe Biden basically slammed the front door on reporters who were asking questions about Hunter.
00:21:47.000So Peter Doocy, whose job it is to be a reporter, he asked a reporter a question.
00:21:51.000And Joe Biden got mad because this is what Joe Biden does.
00:21:53.000Because it turns out that Joe Biden has the same sort of politician dictatorial tendencies as most other politicians in Washington, D.C.
00:22:00.000He is all in favor of freedom so long as that freedom expresses itself in support for him.
00:22:04.000If it cuts the other way, then not so much.
00:23:01.000That is not, but you could, listen, Biden could be forgiven for thinking that.
00:23:06.000I mean, he spent his entire career in the warm caresses of the media ever since Barack Obama decided to pluck him from obscurity and make him his vice president.
00:23:30.000That's the reason he can't get anything done, is because there are just too many people who are mean to Joe Biden, particularly on the right.
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00:25:31.000One of the first people to receive it was a New York nurse named Sandra Lindsay, who said that she received the vaccine and she feels great.
00:25:38.000I received the vaccine a short while ago.
00:25:43.000It didn't feel any different from receiving my annual influenza vaccine.
00:25:49.000I am very proud to be a healthcare worker and I'm also very proud to be in this position to promote public confidence in the safety of the vaccine.
00:26:00.000I encourage everyone to take the vaccine.
00:26:23.000You know, Trump ripped on her at a White House press conference and the entire media infrastructure came to her and said, Oh my God, she's such a great journalist, incredible journalist.
00:26:30.000Here's what she tweeted May 15th, 2020.
00:26:32.000President Trump just now at the White House on a coronavirus vaccine.
00:26:35.000We're looking to get it by the end of the year if we can.
00:28:26.000Tim O'Brien, Lib commentator said, no one in Trump's own government, at least those leading Operation Warp Speed, whom I interviewed, believes a safe, properly tested coronavirus vaccine will be ready by the end of the year.
00:28:36.000Amazingly irresponsible for Trump to be touting this in the midst of this crisis.
00:28:41.000And then, of course, Kyle Griffin from MSNBC, whose Twitter account, as a low-level producer over at MSNBC for, I believe, Lawrence O'Donnell, his Twitter account can, because he apparently has like the emails of everybody in the echo chamber, if he tweets something, it becomes like a national story.
00:28:54.000He tweeted out, May 15th, 2020, a fact check from NBC.
00:29:05.000Or alternatively, you guys were lying the whole time because bottom line is that you wanted it not to be true.
00:29:12.000Many of you were rooting for it not to be true.
00:29:14.000You weren't willing to hold off on it.
00:29:15.000You weren't willing to just say, okay, well, you know, it's possible that this could be the case.
00:29:20.000Instead you jumped to, it's a, In November, right?
00:29:22.000The day before the election, people were tweeting, it's impossible a vaccine will be available by the end of the year.
00:29:26.000The very next week, the very next week, which by the way is not a coincidence, you started to see drug companies come out of the woodwork and say, oh yeah, by the way, all of our studies have been going really, really well.
00:29:36.000If that news had come two weeks earlier, maybe that affects the election.
00:29:38.000Dr. Marty McCarry from Johns Hopkins University, he had serious doubts.
00:29:54.000This is why when people say it's rigged, there is rigged as in like people formally changed votes or the voting machines were hacked.
00:29:59.000And then there's rigged as in the conditions of the election We're not free and fair on a broader level in that all the information that you should have known was not made available to you.
00:30:09.000If we had known a week before the election, if the American people had known a week before the election, the vaccine was going to be ready and good to go by the end of the year.
00:30:16.000And that, in fact, companies like Pfizer had the vaccine ready and good to go.
00:30:19.000Like we know for a fact, by the way, that Pfizer already had the numbers in the FDA.
00:30:23.000Administrators inside the FDA made them go back to the drawing board and add a few more people onto their study, even though they already had enough results to announce.
00:30:31.000We also know the Hunter Biden story was out there, and we know that that was not confirmed by the DOJ, and the media not only refused to report on it, they actively attempted to suppress the information on the Hunter Biden story.
00:30:45.000It certainly wouldn't have hurt Trump.
00:30:47.000In any case, the vaccine is being rolled out.
00:30:49.000That is a triumph by the Trump administration.
00:30:52.000Anthony Fauci, the greatest of all doctors, like the actual, apparently, he's not just a doctor, he's like the best doctor in all the land.
00:31:01.000Dr. Fauci, he said that there will be herd immunity by the end of June 2021.
00:31:05.000Which, by the way, also gives the lie to Bill Gates' bizarre comment that we wouldn't be getting back to normal until 2022.
00:31:09.000Here he was talking about herd immunity.
00:31:12.000I had been saying, by my calculation, sometime by the end of March, the beginning of April, that the normal, healthy man and woman in the street, who has no underlying conditions, would likely get it.
00:31:24.000At the end of the day, the real bottom line is, when do you get the majority, the overwhelming majority of the population, vaccinated so you can get that umbrella of herd immunity?
00:31:36.000And I believe if we're efficient about it, and we convince people to get vaccinated, we can accomplish that by the end of the second quarter of 2021.
00:31:45.000Namely, by the end of the late spring, early summer.
00:31:49.000And by the way, point of fact, the media, which has now shifted its narrative to we have to convince all these unbelievers to get the vaccine, that shifted immediately on the election, like on a dime.
00:32:00.000Andrew Cuomo went from we have to have our own state commission to determine whether the vaccine is safe to give us the vaccine like right now and I'm going to be out here and I'm going to be telling all of you that you need to get the vaccine.
00:32:10.000It's like, dude, five seconds ago, you were saying that you couldn't get the vaccine because it was developed under the Trump administration.
00:32:14.000The good news is the vast majority of Americans say they would receive the vaccine.
00:32:17.000Forty percent say they will take it as soon as it's available.
00:32:19.000Forty four percent say they would wait a bit before getting it.
00:32:21.000This seems to be age striated, as by the way, it should be.
00:32:24.000If you're elderly or you're vulnerable, you should be looking at the vaccine like, give me that sucker right now.
00:32:28.000And if you are young and you're healthy, you might be saying, I'm going to wait a little while because who cares if I get it?
00:32:34.000By the actual statistics, if I'm 20 and I get it, then my chances of death are exceedingly low.
00:32:39.000If, however, I'm 65 and I have a preexisting heart condition, give me the vaccine right this very instant.
00:32:44.000Only 15% of Americans, according to a new poll, say they would refuse the vaccine entirely in the new survey that was conducted by Ipsos in partnership with ABC News.
00:32:53.000More than 8 in 10 Americans say, of course, they will receive it.
00:32:57.000Among those who have been most closely hit by the pandemic, 45% said that they would receive the vaccine right now.
00:33:03.000Among Americans who have not contracted the virus or don't know somebody who has, only 30% say they would be willing to be inoculated immediately.
00:33:10.000Only 7% of Americans over the age of 65 say they will never be vaccinated.
00:33:14.000That number rises to 20% among those between 18 to 29.
00:33:18.00093% of elderly Americans say they are willing to receive the vaccine.
00:33:21.000More saying they will get it right away, 57%, rather than further down the line, 36%.
00:33:27.000adults under 30 are willing to get it, but they're more likely to say that they would wait rather than getting it right away.
00:33:31.000That's actually good news because, again, we're going to be tranching this thing out.
00:33:34.000So if you're young, you are going to be waiting for it.
00:33:36.000So the fact that you're willing to wait for it is probably not a bad thing.
00:33:38.000So all of that is very good news with regard to the vaccines.
00:33:40.000Meanwhile, New York is talking about doing a full shutdown.
00:33:44.000Despite data suggesting that the shutdowns probably are not going to do anything.
00:33:49.000The reason I say probably is because there are contact tracing studies in New York right now that show that the vast majority of COVID spread is happening in household transmission.
00:33:57.000There was Mayor Bill de Blasio, the most garbage mayor in America.
00:34:00.000And man, is that a close battle between a bunch of Democratic mayors ranging from Eric Garcetti to Ted Wheeler in Portland to Lori Lightfoot in Chicago.
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00:38:34.000All righty, so Meanwhile, William Barr, the Attorney General, has stepped down out of his job.
00:38:45.000Overall, William Barr did an excellent job as Attorney General despite the massive slings and arrows.
00:38:48.000It's amazing to see how the media continued to treat William Barr despite the fact that, according to their light, he should be a hero today.
00:38:55.000I mean, William Barr did not actually reveal news of the Hunter Biden investigation.
00:38:58.000I think that that was a dicey move considering that it was overtly known.
00:39:01.000I mean, people were actively reporting that he was under investigation, Hunter Biden.
00:39:06.000The DOJ refused to confirm or deny based on Justice Department protocol that you don't do anything that affects an election.
00:39:10.000It turns out that refusing to comment on a widely known matter is in fact affecting an election.
00:39:15.000I think there are open questions to be asked about that.
00:39:17.000I do wonder whether Trump's His sort of bizarre requirement to constantly go online and sound off about these things pushed Barr into a bad position.
00:39:26.000He kept saying over and over, I want William Barr to prosecute Hunter Biden.
00:39:29.000I want William Barr to open an investigation into Hunter Biden.
00:39:33.000And Barr's like, I'm the head of the DOJ.
00:39:46.000So I'm wondering if that had some impact here.
00:39:48.000In any case, overall, William Barr was a very strong Attorney General.
00:39:52.000As Laura Ingraham said on her show last night, people who are suggesting that Barr is a weak Attorney General, either on the left or on the right, are being absolutely inaccurate.
00:39:58.000His treatment of the Mueller probe was exemplary.
00:40:02.000His decisions whether or not to prosecute in various cases have been nearly invariably good.
00:40:08.000So William Barr put in his resignation yesterday.
00:40:13.000According to CNN, his departure was announced by the president on Twitter moments after counting in the Electoral College put Biden over the 270 votes.
00:40:20.000He tweeted out, just had a very nice meeting with Attorney General Bill Barr at the White House.
00:40:24.000Our relationship has been a very good one.
00:40:40.000There are some people who have been suggesting to me he's going to fire William Barr, but it was basically irrelevant at this point anyway.
00:40:45.000A White House official said Barr was not forced out or fired.
00:41:09.000And Barr wrote a very complimentary letter for Trump.
00:41:11.000He said, your record is all the more historic because you accomplished it in the face of relentless, implacable resistance.
00:41:15.000No tactic, no matter how abusive or deceitful, was out of bounds.
00:41:18.000The nadir of this campaign was the effort to cripple, if not oust your administration with frenzies and baseless accusations of collusion with Russia.
00:41:28.000Of course, these are the last days anyway for the Barr DOJ, no matter how you were going to slice it.
00:41:35.000Meanwhile, as all of this goes on, the media are finally starting to notice that maybe there's some conflicts of interest with Joe and Hunter Biden.
00:41:40.000Now it's fair to talk about all of this.
00:41:42.000So Michael Scherer has a piece over the Washington Post.
00:41:44.000The last time Joe Biden worked in the White House, his son-in-law, Howard Krein, mentioned executives from his healthcare startup firm would be visiting Washington.
00:41:50.000The vice president promptly arranged a meeting between the group, which included Krein's brother, Stephen, and President Barack Obama in the Oval Office.
00:41:57.000He knew about startup health and was a big fan of it.
00:41:58.000Howard Krein, the husband of Biden's daughter Ashley, told the Philadelphia Business Journal in 2015.
00:42:02.000He asked for Steve's number and said, I have to get them up here to talk with Barack.
00:42:06.000Now Biden is preparing to step back into the Oval Office with radically different expectations about how he will handle the relationship between his official power and his family's private interests.
00:42:14.000Notice how the Washington Post is suddenly reporting on this.
00:42:16.000Until five seconds ago, it was completely verboten to talk about the fact That Joe has been facilitating his family's business interests for years.
00:42:24.000It's perfectly obvious this has been happening.
00:42:26.000He's giving his son, Hunter, lifts on Air Force Two to China.
00:42:29.000He was looking the other way when Hunter was going and cashing checks in Ukraine using his name.
00:42:33.000I mean, it is perfectly obvious what was going on for years.
00:42:36.000But we were told we're not allowed to report on this now.
00:42:38.000The Washington Post has decided to report on it.
00:42:39.000But how are they going to report on it?
00:42:41.000Not by suggesting that perhaps Joe Biden's history of familial corruption is bad, but by suggesting, well, you know, now he's going to change.
00:42:56.000My son, my family will not be involved in any business, any enterprise in conflict with or appears to be in conflict.
00:43:01.000The president-elect told CNN this month, according to the Washington Post, that pledge has now been handed over to lawyers for the presidential transition who are drafting new rules for the Biden White House that are likely to be more restrictive than the rules that govern the Obama administration.
00:43:14.000The potential family conflicts, both with Biden and his top White House advisors, are more extensive than the Obama White House confronted.
00:43:20.000Biden's son Hunter is facing a federal investigation over taxes paid on a business venture in China, which also included Biden's brother James.
00:43:26.000A situation that is certain to test the president-elect's promise to let the DOJ operate independently of his personal interests.
00:43:32.000Both men have worked for years at the intersection of government and the private sector, using the Biden name to win work and sometimes partnering with Biden donors.
00:43:39.000Through his lawyer, Hunter has promised not to work for any more foreign-owned companies and to, quote, keep his father personally uninvolved in his business affairs.
00:43:46.000John Owens, the husband of Biden sisters Valerie and a former college classmate of the president-elect, owns a Delaware-based telemedicine company that markets itself as a solution amid pandemic restrictions, with medical second-opinion operations in Europe and Asia.
00:43:58.000The president-elect spoke to a conference for the company, Metaguide International, in 2017, and the firm boasted about it in its marketing materials.
00:44:06.000Biden and his wife, Jill, have also given speeches during the Trump administration at events produced by StartUp Health, a firm that has investments overseas and that continues to boast about its Biden ties, and a 2011 Oval Office meeting with Obama.
00:44:23.000Among the investors is Joe Kiani, a major Biden donor, who has also had Biden speak at a patient safety conference he sponsored in 2017.
00:44:31.000Much is riding on exactly how Biden decides to create the bright line he has promised.
00:44:35.000Existing ethics rules regulate the disclosure of non-public government information and financial conflicts for spouses and minor children.
00:44:41.000But the business dealings of extended family for both elected officials and political appointees traditionally fall into a legal and political gray zone.
00:45:20.000Well, William Barr is in fact leaving a bit of a welcome gift for Joe Biden.
00:45:25.000According to the Daily Wire.com, Reince Vedra reporting, Special Counsel John Durham is reportedly ramping up his criminal investigation into the origins of the FBI's counterintelligence investigation into the 2016 campaign.
00:45:38.000Barr to be special counsel, is apparently adding more prosecutors to his team.
00:45:42.000The latest development in the case comes after Politico reported over the weekend that Durham has been zeroing in on Christopher Steele.
00:45:48.000Politico reported in a previously unreported move, Durham enlisted a British law firm over the summer to take Steele to court in London, aiming to compel him to turn over notes he had taken of his meetings with the FBI in 2016, according to people with direct knowledge of the episode.
00:46:00.000The underlying context for the request, people said, is that Durham believes Steele's notes could contain evidence.
00:46:06.000that FBI agents improperly disclosed classified information about Crossfire Hurricane, as the Bureau dubbed its Russia probe, in the course of questioning Steele about his own findings.
00:46:14.000DNI John Ratcliffe said last week he thinks Durham should release an interim report because some Democrats had tried to stop the investigation.
00:46:21.000Durham, however, is appointed special counsel.
00:46:23.000That means it is very difficult to get rid of him.
00:46:25.000So that's something that Biden would presumably have to contend with.
00:46:29.000Meanwhile, in other Democratic news, Nancy Pelosi is desperate to retain her speaker position.
00:46:34.000According to the Daily Wire, Emily Zanotti reporting, Speaker of the House Pelosi is desperately whipping support to maintain her hold on the Speaker's position. She's urging her supporters in Congress to return to Washington, D.C. in January to be present for the vote, even if they're currently staying away over COVID-19 worries. According to Kevin McCarthy, Nancy Pelosi is fine with House Democrats skipping work if the votes are about legislation.
00:46:57.000But in January, she's going to demand every Democrat show up in person to vote for her for Speaker.
00:48:08.000These negotiations started months ago and include house rules, PAYGO exemptions, committee makeup, vote commitments, investigations, et cetera.
00:48:14.000So her answer is that she's holding Nancy Pelosi, she's holding her feet to the fire.
00:48:24.000Alrighty, in just a second, we're going to be getting to more bizarre moves by the radical left.
00:48:32.000So, the ongoing battle inside the Democratic Party between the radical left and the moderate left, it really is largely just a question of timing.
00:48:41.000Because let's face it, Joe Biden is not significantly more moderate than the radical leftists in his coalition.
00:48:46.000He just wants to get there more slowly.
00:48:47.000And the media are trying to cover for him.
00:48:49.000You want to see an obvious, ridiculous example of media bias.
00:48:53.000Michelle Boorstein has a piece over at the Washington Post suggesting that Joe Biden is going to change what it means to be Catholic.
00:49:01.000That institution, a couple thousand years old, I don't think the doddering octogenarian who can barely get a sentence out of his face is going to be changing the meaning of Catholicism for millions of people.
00:49:09.000I just don't think that's going to happen.
00:49:11.000Here's the Washington Post, however, Biden could redefine what it means to be a Catholic in good standing.
00:49:16.000Catholics are divided on whether that is good.
00:49:18.000He's not going to be dividing people on what it means to be a Catholic in good standing.
00:49:23.000It's not going to suddenly become Catholic Church doctrine that same sex marriage is wonderful and abortion is fine.
00:49:28.000Both of which are things that Joe Biden apparently believes.
00:49:31.000According to the Washington Post, however, again, this is in their religion section.
00:50:04.000It encompasses things ranging from views on poverty to things like abortion.
00:50:08.000It's not like you have to pick one or choose the other.
00:50:10.000But according to the Washington Post, you do, you see.
00:50:13.000And Joe Biden stands with Catholicism on issues like poverty and the environment.
00:50:17.000But, you know, he's just a little wishy-washy on the whole killing babies that are in the womb and also same-sex marriage.
00:50:22.000Like, that stuff, he's not great on Catholic doctrine, but, you know, you're gonna have to choose.
00:50:27.000Despite these divisions, says the Washington Post, Biden is poised to make his mark on American Catholicism.
00:50:31.000For the next four years, the country will see its president go to mass every Sunday, take out a rosary at times of contemplation, and quote his favorite childhood nuns and Catholic poets.
00:51:04.000He is a political leader who happens to identify as Catholic, although he's been refused communion in at least a couple of churches because of his position on abortion.
00:51:13.000I'm frankly in a state of bewilderment as to how he has not been refused communion everywhere, given his position on abortion, same-sex marriage, and not only that, but because he's talked about the morality of same-sex marriage, not just its legal status, but also his belief that a boy can become a girl and a girl can become a boy.
00:51:27.000I mean, these are completely violative of Catholic doctrine.
00:51:30.000Now, he's free to take whatever position he wants.
00:51:33.000But I just find it weird that the Washington Post is trying to turn him into a Catholic leader.
00:51:37.000What the Washington Post is really saying is that Catholicism would be great except for all the Catholicism involved.
00:51:42.000And religion is great except for when it comes to doctrine.
00:51:45.000Jade Hendricks, former Executive Director of Government Relations at the U.S.
00:51:48.000Conference of Catholic Bishops said, most people don't pay attention to bishops, they do to the US president.
00:51:53.000When the president is almost diametrically opposed to the most basic human right, that creates problems across the board.
00:51:57.000How bishops address this is tricky, but if they don't, President Biden can redefine the perception of what it is to be a Catholic in good standing.
00:52:03.000Yes, I mean, it would be about time for religious Catholics to stand up and say, no, we are not going to be paying attention to Joe Biden's commitments on issues like abortion.
00:52:13.000Speaking of which, just a couple of logical correlators to Joe Biden's political positions when it comes to sort of the radicalism of the Democratic Party?
00:52:21.000So Joe Biden literally said in a town hall that nine-year-olds should be able to decide whether they are a boy or a girl.
00:52:28.000That not only does not jive with Catholic doctrine, it does not jive with human reason or biology.
00:52:34.000So there's a tweet that came up last night, and I thought this was just a fascinating tweet because it does show the logical conclusion, like the logical endpoint of the leftist position on biological sex and gender.
00:52:46.000So there is an Orlando trans activist and science writer uh, named Zinnia, Z-Jump TV. Okay, and this tweet started to go viral last night, even though it was about a week and a half old. And here is what the tweet says. If children can't consent to puberty blockers which cause any permanent changes, even with the relevant professional evaluation, how can they consent to the permanent and irreversible changes that come with their own puberty with
00:53:13.000no professional evaluation whatsoever? This is literally a position that permanent changes are fine as long as you're not trans. An inability to offer informed consent or understand the long-term consequences is actually an argument for putting every single cis and trans person on puberty blockers until they acquire that ability.
00:53:45.000When you have a baby, you actually can't tell the gender.
00:53:47.000This is something Charles Blow said on Twitter the other day, and I laughed at him for it.
00:53:51.000He suggested that if a baby comes out of the womb, and you look at the baby, and the baby's a girl, you can't actually say that that baby is a girl because the baby may turn out to be a boy.
00:53:58.000You can't have a gender reveal party based on an ultrasound because gender is chosen later.
00:54:03.000Okay, so this trans activist is saying, okay, if that's the case, if gender is chosen later, then shouldn't we put every kid on puberty blockers so they are not forced by their hormones into the uncomfortable position of being at odds with their chosen gender?
00:54:15.000Why not make kids genderless widgets from the time that they are small, so that their hormones don't force them into the binary decision between being a boy and being a girl?
00:54:23.000That is what this trans activist is saying.
00:54:25.000Now, that sounds crazy, because it is crazy, but it is totally the logical conclusion of the position that gender is chosen and that sex is assigned at birth.
00:54:33.000Because if you see human beings as genderless widgets and sex as a biological nuisance, then this is the logical position.
00:54:41.000Now, nobody on the left ever talks about the logical endpoint because they don't want to talk about the logical endpoint.
00:54:45.000The moment you start talking about logical endpoints for these positions, the entire position completely falls apart.
00:54:50.000But this person happens to be hitting the nail on the head.
00:54:52.000If you believe that children choose their own adventure, then presumably you should put every seven-year-old in America on puberty blockers so they have the freedom to choose whether they are boys or girls.
00:55:37.000Parents is an oppressive class like rich people or white people.
00:55:40.000Well, once you take the position that the government knows better than you do how to raise your own child, that the American Federation of Teachers should decide exactly what your child learns, and that whatever is the prevailing leftist ideology of the day ought to be crammed down on parents.
00:55:52.000Parents really don't have autonomy to decide what their kids should and should not learn.
00:55:56.000In fact, parents shouldn't even have autonomy to decide what public school to send their kids to.
00:56:01.000Well, the idea there is that you are in fact liberating children from their parents.
00:56:06.000In the Communist Manifesto, there is this idea that parents are in fact an oppressive class and that you need the state to liberate children from the bondage of their parents.
00:56:14.000Now, in the real world, here's how we see all of this.
00:56:17.000There is accepted tradition brought down over thousands of years of human history.
00:56:21.000Human nature is fundamentally unchanging.
00:56:23.000Parents are there to provide the established wisdom to their children.
00:56:27.000Over time, people can determine that perhaps an established piece of wisdom is false.
00:56:31.000But that requires careful consideration.
00:56:34.000Parents will liberate you from the shackles of barbarity.
00:56:38.000If you've ever met a child, you understand that kids cannot be trusted to do anything.
00:56:42.000Parents need to be there, not only to provide for them, but to guide them in the confusing process of growing up.
00:56:48.000But if you're a big believer in the idea that parents are oppressors, that children are innately wonderful and not only innocent, but good, and that it is only the shackles of society that make them bad, these are the positions you end up with.
00:57:01.000The state should liberate children from their parents.
00:57:03.000The state should allow children to decide what their gender is.
00:57:07.000Now, if all this sounds crazy, it's because it is crazy.
00:57:11.000But you watch, anything that is crazy becomes mainstreamed within five years.
00:57:16.000Within five years, this all will be part of the mainstream discussion.
00:57:18.000Will be, when should puberty... I mean, the puberty blocker conversation about whether kids should be having puberty blockers, whether or not they're trans, that stuff is basically already on the table.
00:57:28.000I mean, when we are talking about judges mandating That parents who don't want their kids to have puberty blockers give their kids puberty blockers at the age of 10 because one parent disagrees with the other parent.
00:57:38.000Or when a kid declares themselves trans at 12, and a judge decides that if a parent refuses to do that, then the kid needs to be taken out of the home.
00:57:44.000This is already happening in some areas of Canada, for example.
00:57:51.000All of that gender ideology, all of that belief about the evils of parenting and the good of the state, all of that is buried deep within the sort of moderate veneer of Joe Biden's philosophy.
00:58:02.000He just doesn't want to get at it or he doesn't want to think about it because he might come to these sorts of conclusions eventually.
00:58:07.000The hard left will come to those conclusions if they think about it long enough.
00:58:10.000So, what I would like to know, in the end, is how any of that jives with things like Catholic doctrine, or history, or for that matter, decency.
00:58:20.000How do these things become mainstream?
00:58:21.000They become mainstream when the media decide that it's time to silence you about these particular issues.
00:58:26.000Now, it's going to take a while on this.
00:58:27.000I mean, this is the bleeding edge of the radical left.
00:58:30.000Let's not pretend this is the mainstream Democratic Party position.
00:58:33.000The mainstream Democratic Party position is that boys can become girls and girls can become boys.
00:58:37.000Not that we have to mandate puberty blockers for children, but that children should be able to get puberty blockers if they declare themselves a member of the opposite sex.
00:58:44.000But it's not that far a move from one to the other.
00:58:48.000And it is not the position of the Democratic Party that parents are an oppressive class.
00:58:51.000It is just the position of the Democratic Party that if Child Protective Services decides that you are raising your child not in accordance with the proper woke ideology, that you're a bad parent and that they should show up to try and re-educate your children, right?
00:59:04.000So, again, all of this is the sort of exaggerated form of the moderated argument, but it's important to recognize the exaggerated form of the moderate argument because it does shed light on what the moderated argument actually is in so many of these cases.
00:59:18.000You're seeing exactly this relationship between radicalism and moderation inside the actual formal Democratic Party these days.
00:59:25.000You're seeing this battle break out between the Ilhan Omars of the world and the Joe Bidens of the world.
00:59:28.000Ilhan Omar, for example, she said yesterday that she's angry that the radicals don't have a big enough seat at the Biden table.
01:02:02.000The Daily Wire reported last week that Wheeler ordered members of the Red House Autonomous Zone to leave or face eviction by force after protesters who'd been occupying the land around Red House for several weeks set up makeshift barriers and declared the space indigenous land.
01:02:14.000Wheeler announced that Portland Police would use all lawful means to clear protesters from that home, according to Oregon Public Broadcasting.
01:02:21.000At the time, Wheeler went so far to say that he would end the illegal occupation.
01:02:25.000However, Red House now says the mayor has apologized for the incident and is in negotiations with both the protesters and the home's owners, and protesters reportedly agreed to remove barriers surrounding the autonomous zone.
01:02:35.000Wheeler then confirmed the negotiation and a subsequent deal.
01:02:38.000He said, this agreement is an important step toward de-escalation and a long-term resolution for the neighborhood and the Kinney family. I maintain the measured optimism we can accomplish this step and move toward the next steps to advance the safety and well-being of the family and safety of the neighborhood. Yeah, Ted Wheeler standing strong for moderation over in Portland.
01:02:54.000And the moderates in the Democratic Party, the only question is when they will cave, Because if we've seen one thing among Democrats, they never move back to the center for very long.
01:03:02.000It is always a stopgap holding move until they move radically to the left.
01:03:07.000So watch for that to happen in the near future.
01:03:08.000Cheered on, of course, by the members of the mainstream media.
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01:03:52.000The Electoral College votes for Biden, leaving President Trump just one route left to win.
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