The Ben Shapiro Show - The Media’s Self-Defeating War | Ep. 508

00:00:00.000 It's a Hobbesian war of all against all as CNN and Fox News do battle, Trump fulminates over immigration, and Hamas makes its move.

00:00:06.000 I'm Ben Shapiro and this is The Ben Shapiro Show.

00:00:13.000 All right, so we have a lot to get to today.

00:00:16.000 Big show coming up.

00:00:16.000 We're going to talk about the continuing attempt to boycott Laura Ingraham's show, the blowback that is going to be unleashed on CNN and MSNBC if this continues.

00:00:23.000 We're going to talk about Trump on DACA.

00:00:25.000 We're going to talk about the media wars.

00:00:27.000 Apparently Sinclair Broadcasting did something so horribly egregious, the entire media is a Twitter over it.

00:00:33.000 We'll talk about all of those things.

00:00:35.000 Plus, later in the show, I'm going to do an interview with the producer on the new fantastic film Chappaquiddick, which I have a lot to say, talk about a little bit later in the show.

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00:02:03.000 All right, so we begin today with the update on everything that has been going on regarding Laura Ingraham and the aftermath of the Parkland shooting, which is now six weeks ago, but the media have been all over it since then, pushing the gun control agenda.

00:02:16.000 I want to begin by pointing out that the media's agenda here is absolutely clear.

00:02:20.000 The media is using the Parkland shooting as a crutch, as a lever, in order to push gun control and in order to attack their political opponents.

00:02:27.000 And really, it's more the latter than the former.

00:02:29.000 It's not even about pushing gun control so much as castigating anyone they don't like.

00:02:33.000 Castigating anyone with whom they disagree as a bad human being.

00:02:37.000 This is what the media are into.

00:02:38.000 The media want to make it seem like if you disagree with them on gun control, this makes you a bad person.

00:02:42.000 They're actually not that interested in gun control legislation actually getting passed.

00:02:46.000 Because if they were,

00:02:48.000 They would stop browbeating people like Marco Rubio, senator from Florida, who's been working with Bill Nelson, a Democrat senator from Florida, to push legislation. 0.58

00:02:55.000 They would stop ripping on Republicans as uncaring, unfeeling monsters with blood on their hands.

00:02:59.000 The media are interested in one thing and one thing only in the aftermath of Parkland, and that is pushing the gun control narrative specifically so they can push their more important primary narrative.

00:03:08.000 The gun control narrative is secondary.

00:03:10.000 The primary narrative is that you are a bad person if you like guns.

00:03:14.000 You are a bad person if you're pro-Second Amendment.

00:03:16.000 Okay, this is their agenda.

00:03:17.000 How can you tell this is their agenda?

00:03:18.000 Because even other left-wing agenda points go by the wayside if it doesn't serve the primary agenda.

00:03:24.000 So here's what I mean by that.

00:03:25.000 There's a whole group of students over at Parkland who are even further left than the group of students you've seen on TV.

00:03:30.000 The Emma Gonzalez's and the David Hogg's and the Cameron Kasky's.

00:03:33.000 There's a whole group of students that are even more to the left, but you never see them on TV.

00:03:37.000 Why don't you see those left-wing students on TV? 0.86

00:03:39.000 After all, the media is full of leftists.

00:03:41.000 The answer is because these students are not serving the left-wing agenda of pushing gun control, and therefore they are not pushing the broader left-wing agenda of making those of us who are anti-gun control look like bad people.

00:03:52.000 So here are some of the kids who have been talking but not being heard.

00:03:55.000 There's some black students over at Stoneman Douglas who are being completely ignored by the media.

00:03:58.000 You've never seen any of these folks on TV.

00:04:00.000 You've never heard of any of these people.

00:04:02.000 But here they were, and the agenda they're pushing is that they don't want more school safety officers in school because they're afraid that that's going to lead to more arrests of black kids.

00:04:10.000 So here is them talking about this.

00:04:12.000 The Black Lives Matter movement has been addressing this topic since the murder of Trayvon Martin in 2012.

00:04:17.000 Yet we have never seen this kind of support for our cause, and we surely do not feel that the lives or voices of minorities are valued as much as those of our white counterparts.

00:04:27.000 I am here today with my classmates because we have been sorely underrepresented, and in some cases, misrepresented.

00:04:35.000 Okay, so you can stop it there, but these people were not heard, right?

00:04:37.000 You're not hearing from any of these students, right?

00:04:39.000 This appears maybe a little bit in local media, maybe for a brief second in national media, and then it goes away.

00:04:46.000 Why?

00:04:59.000 Wouldn't this be the intersectional moment?

00:05:01.000 Wouldn't this be the intersectional talking point?

00:05:03.000 Remember, the left ideology is intersectional.

00:05:05.000 They believe that you can judge someone's opinion and the value of their opinion simply by looking at the group identity.

00:05:11.000 Simply by looking at the group to which they belong. 0.72

00:05:13.000 So, these are black students.

00:05:14.000 That means that their opinions should be held in higher esteem than the white students like David Hogg, right? 0.88

00:05:19.000 Otherwise, you're just exacerbating white privilege.

00:05:21.000 But the media aren't focusing on these black students.

00:05:23.000 Why aren't they focusing on these black students? 0.99

00:05:25.000 Because these black students do not serve their agenda. 1.00

00:05:28.000 If these black students were out there front and center calling for gun control and suggesting that everyone who didn't like gun control is a bad person, the media would have them on every single day. 0.97

00:05:36.000 So this is why when people say they are intersectional leftists, what they really mean is they are leftists first and intersectional second.

00:05:42.000 Intersectionality, that identity politics philosophy, that philosophy that we can judge you as an individual by your group identity and your viewpoint's value by your group identity, that's only important to the left when it serves the purpose of the left.

00:05:56.000 Clarence Thomas isn't a legit black man, according to the left, because his intersectional experiences as a black man don't count because he doesn't agree with the left.

00:06:03.000 Well, the same thing is true of these students.

00:06:04.000 They're not forwarding the left's hardcore agenda, and that means that their black skin no longer counts in the intersectional hierarchy because they're just not that important.

00:06:13.000 Which shows you that all the members of the intersectional hierarchy, all the members of this intersectional coalition, who are supposedly going to get together to rip down the system,

00:06:22.000 It's really far less about mutual respect for ethnicity and much more about mobilizing to defeat the supposed patriarchy, to defeat the white privilege system.

00:06:32.000 And that's why the media can safely ignore these black kids and pretend like nothing is happening with them because it doesn't serve their higher agenda.

00:06:38.000 Well, what does serve their higher agenda?

00:06:40.000 Right now, what serves their higher agenda is using gun control to push for boycotts against media figures they don't like.

00:06:45.000 So this is a continuation of what happened last week.

00:06:48.000 Laura Ingraham, the Fox News host, she was boycotted.

00:06:52.000 Not even really boycotted.

00:06:52.000 There's an Astroturf boycott attempt by David Hogg, who's a student at Marjory Stoneman Douglas, and he was present when the shooting happened.

00:07:00.000 And he's obviously been put all over the media.

00:07:02.000 You've seen him saying really vile things about people he disagrees with, saying they have blood on their hands, saying that Marco Rubio's a murderer who basically took $1.05 from the NRA for every Florida student and all the rest.

00:07:12.000 Well, David Hogg,

00:07:15.000 He was interviewed by TMZ after visiting some colleges, and he was asked how the college admission stuff was going, and he said, Well, you know, to be honest with you, it ain't going that great.

00:07:23.000 There are four colleges that didn't let me in, and I understand there are a lot of people who can fill those slots, but if the colleges want to help us out, they can help us out, and if they don't want to help us out, they don't want to help us out.

00:07:32.000 Well, this prompted

00:07:33.000 Laura Ingraham to tweet out that he was whining about his college admissions.

00:07:36.000 Was that ill-advised?

00:07:37.000 Yes.

00:07:38.000 Is it something I would have recommended saying?

00:07:40.000 No.

00:07:40.000 Do I think that we should attack the perspectives that are wrong?

00:07:43.000 Yes.

00:07:43.000 Do I think we should attack the people expressing those perspectives?

00:07:46.000 Not really.

00:07:47.000 But, Laura says all of this, and then, Hogg's response is not

00:07:51.000 Well, Laura, that was kind of a jerky thing to say.

00:07:52.000 His response is directly from the Media Matters playbook.

00:07:55.000 Media Matters, if you don't know, is a left-wing group co-founded essentially by Hillary Clinton, and that group has been designed for literally a decade and a half to launch astroturfed boycotts against major right-wing media figures.

00:08:06.000 People like Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity and Bill O'Reilly, and now against Laura Ingraham.

00:08:11.000 And so this student, David Hogg, he immediately comes forward with a list of the advertisers on Laura Ingraham's show.

00:08:16.000 Within minutes, he's got a list.

00:08:18.000 Amazing.

00:08:18.000 Amazing how that worked.

00:08:20.000 It was just incredible.

00:08:21.000 And then, all of these advertisers start dropping Laura's show because they don't want the blowback. 0.89

00:08:25.000 Because here's the dirty little secret about a lot of advertisers.

00:08:27.000 They're more afraid of the blowback than they are interested in experiencing the

00:08:33.000 Pleasure of advertising on a given show.

00:08:34.000 When an advertiser advertises on a show, usually what they're looking for is an outlet to speak to a vast group of people.

00:08:40.000 What they don't want is bad publicity.

00:08:41.000 So even the merest sign of bad publicity for a lot of advertisers is toxic and a lot of them run away.

00:08:47.000 And so Laura Ingraham apologizes and David Hogg says, I'm not going to accept the apology.

00:08:51.000 I'm still gonna push forward with the boycott.

00:08:53.000 And the media are giddy over this, because finally, they have a kid that they can stand behind.

00:08:58.000 And this kid is unattackable, right?

00:08:59.000 You're not supposed to say anything bad about him, even about his perspective.

00:09:02.000 You're not even supposed to say he says immoral things, because that would be attacking him.

00:09:06.000 And this is according to the folks in the media.

00:09:08.000 Brian Stelter on CNN said, he does not ask people like David Hogg questions when they say things that are absolutely unacceptable, because that would be somehow impugning their dignity or honor.

00:09:18.000 I think Brian tries, but I think that was a pretty telling statement.

00:09:21.000 David Hogg is being used as a shield by the media in order so they can push the sword at their political enemies, like Fox News and Laura Ingraham.

00:09:29.000 So Hogg, of course, is really excited about this, and he's going to become the boycott leader of the left, and the left is happy to use him this way.

00:09:35.000 He says that corporate America is standing with him.

00:09:37.000 Here's him making the statement to Allison Camerata, who, by the way, last week said that what college wouldn't, what college wouldn't let someone like you in?

00:09:48.000 Well, David Hogg wasn't let into some of the colleges on the West Coast because his SAT scores weren't high enough.

00:09:51.000 I mean, all of his admissions were done months ago before any of this happened.

00:09:56.000 And his SAT scores, apparently, according to David Hogg, are like a 1270, which is a fine SAT score, but that's 100 points below the average at UCLA, so he wouldn't expect to get into UCLA. 0.94

00:10:05.000 In any case, here's Allison Camerata and David Hogg making out on national TV, or at least plastering her lips to his butt. 0.97

00:10:13.000 I think it's great that corporate America is standing with me and the rest of my friends because when you come against any one of us, whether it be me or anybody else, you're coming against all of us.

00:10:21.000 And I think it's important that we stand together as both corporate and civic America to take action against these people and show them that they cannot push us around, especially when all we're trying to do here is save lives.

00:10:33.000 Okay, that's all he's trying to do.

00:10:34.000 Forget all the things that he said that are terrible about people calling Dana Lash a murderer, and someone who doesn't care about her children, and saying the same thing about Marco Rubio, and Allison Kamaraj just sitting there nodding through this whole thing.

00:10:44.000 Corporate America is not standing with David Hogg.

00:10:46.000 Corporate America is standing with non-controversy.

00:10:48.000 And this is the truth about corporate America.

00:10:50.000 They don't want controversy, which is understandable.

00:10:52.000 If you run a business, and you are selling a sleep aid, and you are on a show, and the show starts to become very controversial, and suddenly your sleep aid is popping up in all the ads, you're afraid of the blowback.

00:11:03.000 And so maybe you pull your advertisements.

00:11:04.000 The left knows this, and that's why they're pushing it.

00:11:06.000 And so David Hogg decides to push this even further.

00:11:08.000 He says, listen, I understand that Laura Ingraham apologized to me, and I don't accept her apology, but she shouldn't just stop there.

00:11:13.000 She should also apologize again on CNN, of course, on CNN.

00:11:17.000 And then he says, you know what else?

00:11:18.000 I would really appreciate if she would apologize to LeBron James.

00:11:22.000 Why LeBron James?

00:11:24.000 Because a month before this shooting happened in Parkland, she said to LeBron James that he should shut up and dribble.

00:11:28.000 We talked about it on the show.

00:11:30.000 It wasn't something that I was fond of her saying.

00:11:32.000 In fact, I criticized her saying it.

00:11:34.000 But David Hogg is now going to be the apology police.

00:11:36.000 He's the civility police.

00:11:38.000 This guy who goes around saying that you have blood on your hands if you disagree with him, this is Captain Civility now, according to the members of the mainstream media.

00:11:44.000 Here he is explaining that Laura Ingraham should apologize to LeBron James, too, or something.

00:11:49.000 There have been multiple instances throughout Ingram's professional career where she's tried calling out people, for example, at Dartmouth University because of their sexual orientation, and she told LeBron James to shut up and dribble.

00:11:59.000 I don't see any apology for those people.

00:12:01.000 I mean, why?

00:12:03.000 It's just, it's really sad.

00:12:05.000 It's disturbing to know that- Okay, stop.

00:12:06.000 Whatever, whatever.

00:12:07.000 Okay, it's just absurd.

00:12:08.000 Why should she apologize to David Hogg if he's not going to accept it?

00:12:11.000 And then why is he calling on her to apologize to other people if he says the apologies mean nothing?

00:12:15.000 None of this makes any sense, except insofar as the media are happy to watch David Hogg go out there and call for boycotts because they want Fox News boycotted, they're a competitor, and then they are firmly convinced that you cannot attack anything that David Hogg says.

00:12:30.000 Again, David Hogg seems like a smart kid.

00:12:32.000 David Hogg seems like a politically wily player.

00:12:35.000 That doesn't mean everything that he says is moral or decent.

00:12:37.000 In fact, I think a large percentage of what he says is immoral and indecent.

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00:14:09.000 Okay, so as I say, a lot of the media are very excited about the boycott against Ingram.

00:14:25.000 You can see this on a CNN panel, right?

00:14:27.000 So CNN says they have a panel and all of these people agree.

00:14:31.000 How is it even possible that Laura Ingram has a show?

00:14:34.000 How is it possible that Laura has a show? 0.89

00:14:35.000 Well, she has a show because there are a lot of people who want to listen to her.

00:14:38.000 But this is the real goal here, right?

00:14:39.000 The real goal here is knocking Ingram off the air, just as the real goal was knocking Sean off the air, and knocking Rush off the air, and knocking all of these various folks off of Fox News.

00:14:47.000 The entire goal of the left here is to pretend that something truly egregious happens, even when nothing truly egregious happens.

00:14:53.000 Now sometimes, something truly egregious has happened.

00:14:56.000 Sometimes there's a multi-million dollar sexual harassment settlement, for example, against a particular host.

00:15:00.000 And advertisers don't want to associate with that.

00:15:02.000 But that's a genuine move by advertisers.

00:15:04.000 Right here what we have is an intimidation campaign by left-wing media sources propping up a Parkland survivor for political gain, and then using that kid as a club to wield against their own political opponents.

00:15:15.000 It's really stomach-churning stuff.

00:15:17.000 Here's the CNN panel saying they can't believe Ingram has a show, they want her deprived of the show, obviously.

00:15:22.000 We so seldom see people acknowledge that they did something wrong.

00:15:24.000 She did.

00:15:25.000 She said that she wished that she hadn't done it.

00:15:28.000 So, Jake, I still don't... I can't believe Laura Ingraham actually has a show.

00:15:32.000 So, like, I'm kind of at a point where I'm there.

00:15:36.000 She apologized.

00:15:37.000 Look, you know, with free speech in this country also comes consequence.

00:15:43.000 You have the right to say anything you want to say, but it also are consequences to those actions.

00:15:47.000 And so those advertisers are pulling out, and I think rightfully so.

00:15:50.000 And I don't think she'll be back on TV after this pre-planned vacation.

00:15:55.000 OK, let's be clear about this.

00:15:56.000 She has a pre-planned vacation this week.

00:15:57.000 She will be back on TV because this is not going to stand.

00:16:00.000 Fox News viewers are not going to be cool with Laura Ingraham being ousted over what is, by Twitter standards, a very, very mild tweet. 1.00

00:16:06.000 It's not something I would have tweeted.

00:16:07.000 It's not something I think was a good idea.

00:16:09.000 But come on.

00:16:10.000 I mean, you're going to end somebody's TV career over that?

00:16:13.000 Good luck with that.

00:16:14.000 Good luck with that.

00:16:15.000 And again, I think the media is in for a rude awakening because things are going to get really ugly on the other end of this.

00:16:21.000 Like, for example, I think CNN's beginning to realize this.

00:16:25.000 Let's take a quick example.

00:16:26.000 Let's begin with Joan Walsh.

00:16:28.000 So, Joan Walsh is a contributor on CNN.

00:16:30.000 And she says a lot of egregious things on a fairly regular basis.

00:16:33.000 She's featured very often in the Things I Hate segment.

00:16:35.000 So, Joan Walsh tweeted out a series of attacks on Kyle Kashuv.

00:16:40.000 And Kyle Kashuv is one of the Parkland survivors, and there are a bunch of people who decided to attack Kashuv on Twitter.

00:16:49.000 Among them was Fred Guttenberg, whose daughter was killed in the attack.

00:16:52.000 Kyle had tweeted out something like,

00:16:57.000 And Fred Guttenberg, whose daughter died in the attack, he says, no, no, no, it's all about saving lives.

00:17:01.000 Well, obviously, Kyle wasn't talking to him.

00:17:02.000 Kyle was talking to David Hogg and the rest of the Parkland survivors who have been on TV routinely pushing gun control.

00:17:07.000 He was saying that the AstroTurf boycott against Laura Ingram is not about saving lives.

00:17:12.000 It's obviously about political gain.

00:17:13.000 Well, Joan Walsh liked all of these tweets, right?

00:17:16.000 Joan Walsh liked all of these tweets.

00:17:17.000 And then Kyle Cashew responded, just so everyone knows, CNN would never take a side.

00:17:21.000 And then he tweeted at Joan Walsh.

00:17:23.000 And Walsh responded by insulting him, saying, good luck handling your stress.

00:17:27.000 So let's use the left standard here for a second.

00:17:30.000 Can you imagine if this were reversed for a second?

00:17:32.000 Imagine if I tweeted at David Hogg,

00:17:47.000 Hey, the boycotts would be imminent, right?

00:17:48.000 I mean, this would be an attack on him.

00:17:50.000 Well, now you have Joan Walsh, a CNN contributor, who is attacking Kyle Cashew, and nothing.

00:17:55.000 No boycotts, no nothing.

00:17:57.000 Well, so here are a list of CNN's advertisers.

00:18:00.000 You want to play this game?

00:18:01.000 If people really want to play this game, we can play this game.

00:18:03.000 We can boycott CNN's advertisers.

00:18:05.000 They're there for everyone to see.

00:18:07.000 We can see all of the various advertisers.

00:18:08.000 Okay, their top advertisers in February 2018 were a Tesla, T-Mobile, GEICO, Progressive, Qumira, Nutrisystem, BMW, NordVPN, AT&T, and GoodRx.

00:18:19.000 Okay, those were their top advertisers.

00:18:21.000 So, should we boycott all of those?

00:18:23.000 I'm not saying we should.

00:18:24.000 I don't think we should.

00:18:25.000 I think it's really bad for discourse in America when we AstroTurf boycotts against the advertisers based on a fake outrage.

00:18:32.000 Based on a level of outrage that is completely disproportionate to the crime that has been committed.

00:18:36.000 Do I think that Joan Walsh's terrible, horrible crime here is really so terrible and horrible?

00:18:40.000 No, I don't.

00:18:41.000 I think Joan Walsh is obnoxious. 1.00

00:18:43.000 Do I think CNN's advertisers ought to pay monetarily for something Joan Walsh said that's dumb on Twitter? 0.97

00:18:48.000 No, I don't. 0.56

00:18:48.000 And she hasn't even apologized. 0.56

00:18:50.000 Hey, Laura Ingraham apologized and people on the left are still trying to push her out. 0.99

00:18:54.000 It's really gross.

00:18:55.000 Brian Stelter, good for him.

00:18:57.000 He acknowledged this yesterday.

00:18:59.000 He essentially acknowledged that we cannot have a functional media ecosystem if we're all going to boycott each other's advertisers based on basic political disagreements.

00:19:09.000 David Zerwick, are ad boycotts the right answer here?

00:19:12.000 I'm personally pretty wary of this.

00:19:15.000 I think it's dangerous to see these ad boycott attempts happening more and more often in this country.

00:19:23.000 My view is let's not shut down anyone's right to speak.

00:19:25.000 Let's meet their comments with more speech.

00:19:27.000 Let's try to respond that way.

00:19:30.000 What is your view of these ad boycotts?

00:19:32.000 Okay, so that's the point.

00:19:33.000 I don't need the rest of this, but what Stelter says there is exactly right.

00:19:36.000 When Stelter says, listen, if you don't like what Laura Ingraham is saying, you have a very simple solution.

00:19:41.000 Turn off your TV.

00:19:42.000 If you don't like what Brian Stelter is saying, very simple solution.

00:19:45.000 Turn off your TV.

00:19:45.000 You don't like what Joan Walsh is saying?

00:19:47.000 Turn off your TV.

00:19:48.000 Turn off your Twitter.

00:19:49.000 Unfollow her.

00:19:50.000 Block her. 1.00

00:19:51.000 You can do all of these things.

00:19:52.000 In a free country, you as a viewer have the capacity to choose what it is you want to watch.

00:19:56.000 There are very few instances when an advertiser deserves to be hit for advertising on a program.

00:20:01.000 Usually, it's when something so blatantly egregious and awful is done or said that the advertiser themselves would pull out anyway, because the ratings would drop anyway.

00:20:10.000 I'm not a big fan of secondary boycotts, especially because they are easily astroturfed, because advertisers are afraid of controversy, and folks who are politically motivated know that.

00:20:18.000 So if the left wants to play this game, the right can play this game too, and we'll see if CNN likes it as well as MSNBC, and we'll see if both of them like it as well as Fox News, because otherwise what we are watching here is a pure political hit done by certain networks against other networks for a political purpose.

00:20:33.000 That's all that's happening here, and it's pretty incredible.

00:20:36.000 Meanwhile, speaking of pure political hits, there's a lot of weird talk over the weekend about something that happened on Sinclair Broadcasting.

00:20:42.000 So Sinclair Broadcasting has brought up all these local affiliates all over the country.

00:20:45.000 They have like 173 local affiliates.

00:20:48.000 All over the country.

00:20:49.000 And some of these affiliates, all of these affiliates, had their anchors read the same message.

00:20:55.000 And in a second, I'm going to tell you what are the messages that those affiliates were reading.

00:20:59.000 Because the left went totally crazy over this.

00:21:01.000 The media went totally nuts over it.

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00:22:25.000 As I say, the media, their agenda is pretty obvious in the left-wing media, and that is to destroy what they perceive as the right-wing media by any means necessary.

00:22:32.000 We've talked about how that's happened via Facebook.

00:22:34.000 We've talked about how that's been happening with regard to this boycott against Laura Ingraham that is being fostered and pushed on by people over at CNN and MSNBC.

00:22:42.000 Well, the latest iteration of this is the push by the left against Sinclair Broadcasting.

00:22:46.000 So Sinclair is a right-wing company.

00:22:49.000 It's owned by people who are on the right and are Trump supporters.

00:22:51.000 And Sinclair has bought up 173 local affiliates all over the country.

00:22:56.000 And these local affiliates all over the country have local news channels, right?

00:23:01.000 Local news stations.

00:23:02.000 Fine.

00:23:03.000 Great.

00:23:03.000 Well, over the last couple of weeks, they have had all of their local news anchors read the same message, right?

00:23:10.000 Speak the same message.

00:23:11.000 So I'm going to play you the message and then I'll explain to you why the left went nuts over this.

00:23:16.000 I am Fox San Antonio's Jessica Hedley.

00:23:18.000 And I'm Ryan Wolf.

00:23:19.000 Our greatest responsibility is to serve our Treasure Valley communities.

00:23:22.000 The El Paso, Las Cruces communities.

00:23:24.000 Eastern Iowa communities.

00:23:26.000 Mid-Michigan communities.

00:23:27.000 We are extremely proud of the quality, balanced journalism that CBS 4 News produces.

00:23:33.000 But... We are concerned about a growing trend of irresponsible, one-sided news stories plaguing our country.

00:23:39.000 Plaguing our country.

00:23:40.000 The sharing of biased and false news has become all too common on social media.

00:23:45.000 More alarming, some media outlets publish these same fake stories without checking facts first.

00:23:50.000 The sharing of biased and false news has become all too common on social media.

00:23:56.000 More alarming, some media outlets...

00:23:58.000 Okay, so it's a little hard to hear because the way this is cut, it's cut from Deadspin, and the way that it's cut, they're trying to show you how all of these anchors are saying the same thing.

00:24:06.000 And this is supposed to be super nefarious.

00:24:08.000 Ooh, all the anchors saying the same thing.

00:24:10.000 This means that it's a Trumpian plot to take over the media.

00:24:13.000 Ooh! 0.96

00:24:14.000 It's Trump!

00:24:15.000 Ah!

00:24:16.000 Run! 0.68

00:24:16.000 Scare! 0.68

00:24:17.000 Ah!

00:24:17.000 Okay, so, here's what they actually say.

00:24:19.000 They say,

00:24:34.000 More alarming, some media outlets publish these same fake stories.

00:24:37.000 Stories that just aren't true without checking facts first.

00:24:40.000 Unfortunately, some members of the media use their platforms to push their own personal bias and agenda to control exactly what people think.

00:24:46.000 This is extremely dangerous to a democracy.

00:24:48.000 At our station, it's our responsibility to pursue and report the truth.

00:24:51.000 We understand truth is neither politically left nor right.

00:24:54.000 Our commitment to factual reporting is the foundation of our credibility, now more than ever.

00:24:58.000 So Sinclair had all of their local news anchors say this message.

00:25:02.000 Does that sound terrible to you?

00:25:04.000 Was anything in there, did anything in there say, we support Trump?

00:25:08.000 All news is fake news?

00:25:09.000 Was there anything in there about, you shouldn't watch CNN, you shouldn't watch MSNBC because all of it's fake news, you shouldn't get the New York Times?

00:25:15.000 None of that is in there.

00:25:17.000 And now Jimmy Kimmel, of course, the late-night pope, as Guy Benson likes to call him, issued this Twitter encyclical.

00:25:23.000 He said, quote, And of course, what he's mocking there is the line in the actual statement by all of these Sinclair Broadcasting hosts that all of this, that bad news is extremely dangerous to a democracy.

00:25:35.000 But the left went nuts over this.

00:25:36.000 It just shows that Sinclair Broadcasting is owned, lock, stock, and barrel by Trump.

00:25:40.000 It's now a White House outlet, and they are forcing their anchors to say pro-Trump things.

00:25:45.000 There's only one problem.

00:25:46.000 I just read you the entire message.

00:25:48.000 I just read you the whole thing.

00:25:50.000 Okay?

00:25:50.000 And there is nothing in the message that smacks of Trumpism.

00:25:53.000 Nothing.

00:25:53.000 In fact, if you had Brian Stelter of CNN or Jake Tapper or anyone else, Anderson Cooper at CNN, read that message, people on the right would assume that that message is a slap at Trump and a slap at Fox News.

00:26:04.000 That message has no political orientation whatsoever.

00:26:07.000 But the left is firmly convinced that because Sinclair Broadcasting is a right-wing outlet, that means that what they were doing here was shilling for Trump.

00:26:15.000 And it just goes to show you how confirmation bias can really addle your brain.

00:26:19.000 Because if you look at that message and you say, it's Trumpism being ladled down our throats forcibly, there's no way to avoid it.

00:26:27.000 Then you're misreading the message and you're attributing views to those anchors that don't exist.

00:26:32.000 Now listen, there are companies.

00:26:34.000 I know of them.

00:26:34.000 I've worked for some of them.

00:26:36.000 There are companies that have a particular view on Trump and that require that you mirror that view on Trump.

00:26:42.000 That's bad.

00:26:43.000 I don't think that's a good thing.

00:26:44.000 At Daily Wire, we have a wide disparity of opinion with regard to the president's performance on various and sundry issues.

00:26:51.000 That's the outlet that I run.

00:26:53.000 But

00:26:54.000 Number one, it's our outlet.

00:26:55.000 And number two, that's not what's going on here.

00:26:57.000 I mean, there's no evidence that was happening at Sinclair Broadcasting.

00:26:59.000 Didn't stop the left from going nuts over it anyway, because the left will go nuts over anything that President Trump does. 0.88

00:27:06.000 Speaking of which, the left is going nuts over President Trump because President Trump is going nuts over the fact that there is this vast cadre of illegal immigrants 1.00

00:27:16.000 So, according to the Washington Examiner, Mexican officials have aided a holy week caravan of over 1,000 migrants headed to the U.S.

00:27:23.000 border to demand Easter asylum, according to reports.

00:27:25.000 Mostly Hondurans, they posted celebration videos on Facebook and chanted,

00:27:32.000 According to an account from the Center for Immigration Studies, Mexican authorities have allowed the migrants to drive north with relative ease.

00:27:38.000 Researcher Causha Luna added that the group Pueblos Sin Fronteras, which aids immigrants, bragged about speeding into Mexico.

00:27:44.000 It said on Monday, Pueblos Sin Fronteras posted a video with the caption, The refugee caravan knocking down borders yesterday and Oaxacan immigration agents abandoned the post when they saw us coming.

00:27:55.000 The people celebrate this first small victory.

00:27:57.000 Locals have provided supplies along the way.

00:27:59.000 So Trump, I think rightly, is upset with the Mexican government for fostering illegal immigration into the United States. 0.92

00:28:05.000 This would be a clear case where the Mexican government is not doing its job.

00:28:08.000 The Mexican government has very, very stringent border policies on its southern border, unless it thinks that you're moving right along through up to the United States.

00:28:15.000 In that case, they seem to be perfectly okay with people crossing the border.

00:28:19.000 The border laws in Mexico are extraordinarily harsh.

00:28:21.000 Like, if you're an illegal immigrant from Mexico, they will deport you immediately or jail you.

00:28:25.000 It is much harsher than the strictures in the United States.

00:28:28.000 So President Trump started tweeting about this.

00:28:30.000 And of course, the left thinks that he's wrong to even be outraged about this at all.

00:28:35.000 You know, I think that some of what he says here is not factually correct, but he's not wrong to be outraged at Mexico for allowing this to happen.

00:28:40.000 He says, Okay, so I agree with the president that

00:28:56.000 These caravans have to stop, obviously.

00:29:12.000 OK, again, this is about half right.

00:29:13.000 You know, what he says about the Mexican government doing very little to stop people from flowing into the United States is basically correct. 1.00

00:29:19.000 And he says these big flows of people are all trying to take advantage of DACA.

00:29:22.000 They want in on the act.

00:29:24.000 Here's where there's a hole in Trump's logic.

00:29:26.000 The hole is this.

00:29:27.000 It was Trump who decided that he's not going to just deport all these folks, right?

00:29:31.000 Trump has the executive authority already to deport all of these people.

00:29:35.000 He does.

00:29:35.000 Under current immigration law, if you were to just enforce current immigration law, all of these people could be deported.

00:29:40.000 DACA is not the state of the law.

00:29:42.000 He has already revoked DACA.

00:29:44.000 So DACA really has nothing to do with this particular move by people crossing the border illegally.

00:29:50.000 In fact, he already revoked that program.

00:29:52.000 And when he says build the wall, the president was elected to do just that.

00:29:57.000 Right now, if he wanted to, he could presumably shift funds from defense measures over to building the wall along those lines.

00:30:03.000 When he says that he's going to do something about NAFTA because that is Mexico's cash cow, again, I don't really appreciate that the president's first move on all this stuff is always to tariffs.

00:30:13.000 His first move is always, we need tariffs and that'll solve all of our problems.

00:30:18.000 Killing NAFTA would actually be really bad for a lot of manufacturers in the United States.

00:30:21.000 But where the media is wrong is when they're wrong when they suggest that Trump is being too harsh with Mexico on their facilitation of illegal immigration.

00:30:29.000 They are right when they say that he's obviously not speaking in any sort of reasoned language about DACA, because again,

00:30:37.000 DACA's on the president.

00:30:37.000 That's an executive policy.

00:30:38.000 If Trump wants to get rid of DACA, he has every ability to do so.

00:30:41.000 I'm going to talk a little bit more about that in just a second, but first, I want to say thank you to our brand new sponsors, the folks over at the movie Chappaquiddick.

00:30:47.000 Now, it is a real pleasure, really.

00:30:49.000 I'm very excited that the folks who made Chappaquiddick are advertising with us, because Chappaquiddick, which opens up in theaters on April 6th, is just a fantastic movie.

00:30:58.000 It's a really, really good movie.

00:30:59.000 I've had a chance to screen it a little bit later in the show.

00:31:01.000 I'm going to have on one of the producers of the film so that we can actually talk about how Chapel Critic was made, because it's sort of an astonishing thing it was made in the first place.

00:31:09.000 Chapel Critic is, of course, the story of Ted Kennedy who drove a woman off a bridge and left her to drown in the car.

00:31:14.000 Really, she suffocated in the car.

00:31:15.000 And the movie does not soft-pedal this.

00:31:17.000 And the movie is it's not a right wing screed.

00:31:20.000 It doesn't go along with it.

00:31:22.000 It doesn't try to go beyond what the evidence shows.

00:31:24.000 So, for example, there's nothing in the movie that suggests that that Ted Kennedy and Mary Jo Kopetny were clearly having an affair that she was pregnant because there's no evidence to support that.

00:31:32.000 But it does stick to the evidence and the evidence is damning enough.

00:31:34.000 It is an amazing thing that this this film got made.

00:31:37.000 And it's amazing thing that it's getting wide releases.

00:31:38.000 All the performances are universally great.

00:31:41.000 And Ted Kennedy does not come off well in this movie, as well he should not.

00:31:45.000 It took 50 years for this movie to be made, and it is worth every minute of the film.

00:31:50.000 If you're a conservative and you worry about Hollywood skewing to the left, if you're somebody who said in the last couple of weeks, I'm watching Roseanne because I want to show Hollywood that my voice counts.

00:31:59.000 Show Hollywood your voice counts.

00:32:00.000 Go see Chappaquiddick.

00:32:02.000 Take your family to see Chappaquiddick.

00:32:03.000 It's important to know how the Democrat machine worked in Chappaquiddick.

00:32:07.000 Half the story's about the Kennedy family.

00:32:09.000 The Kennedy family does not come off well.

00:32:11.000 A lot of the story's about the Democratic infrastructure in law enforcement in Massachusetts at the time.

00:32:15.000 Does not come off well.

00:32:17.000 Again, really well written, beautifully filmed, beautifully acted, and Chappaquiddick tells the story that the left media has wanted to ignore for 50 years.

00:32:25.000 Remember, after Chappaquiddick, Ted Kennedy still ran for president in 1980, and he almost defeated Jimmy Carter, the incumbent.

00:32:32.000 Ted Kennedy wanted to run in 1984.

00:32:34.000 It did not end his career.

00:32:35.000 This movie shows you why it should have ended his career, indeed.

00:32:40.000 You're not going to want to miss this story again.

00:32:41.000 Chappaquiddick in theaters everywhere on April 6th.

00:32:43.000 You almost have a moral obligation to go see the film.

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00:34:30.000 Okay, so what President Trump had to say about the DACA deal, again, it doesn't make a whole hell of a lot of sense.

00:34:35.000 He's not wrong to be angry about the situation on the border, but this is what people elected him to stop, and he already has the authority to do it.

00:34:41.000 So when Trump says that he wants to pass some sort of DACA bill, solving the DACA problem doesn't actually solve the DACA problem.

00:34:48.000 Mexico has got to help us at the border.

00:34:51.000 If they're not going to help us at the border.

00:35:11.000 It's a very sad thing between two countries.

00:35:14.000 Mexico has got to help us at the border.

00:35:17.000 And a lot of people are coming in because they want to take advantage of DACA.

00:35:21.000 And we're going to have to really see.

00:35:23.000 They had a great chance.

00:35:24.000 The Democrats blew it.

00:35:26.000 They had a great, great chance.

00:35:28.000 But we'll have to take a look.

00:35:29.000 But Mexico has got to help us at the border.

00:35:32.000 They flow right through Mexico.

00:35:34.000 They send it to the United States.

00:35:36.000 Can't happen that way anymore.

00:35:38.000 OK, that doesn't make any sense with regard to DACA.

00:35:40.000 But again, the president doesn't have the authority to stop this, and he's right that it has to be stopped.

00:35:44.000 This could be a good moment for him to stand up for American sovereignty and say, look, just because people want to enter the country illegally does not mean that we have to let people enter the country illegally.

00:35:52.000 OK, in other news, meanwhile,

00:35:54.000 There's a big turmoil brewing over in Israel where Palestinians sponsored by Hamas, the terrorist group, have decided to try to walk across the Israeli border or to break down the physical barrier between the Gaza Strip and Israel proper.

00:36:06.000 And the media, of course, are lying about this entire situation.

00:36:09.000 They're suggesting that Israel is indiscriminately firing into crowds and trying to kill random people.

00:36:13.000 Obviously, this is untrue.

00:36:14.000 There are tens of thousands of people who started camping along that border.

00:36:17.000 Israel killed virtually none of them.

00:36:19.000 Okay, Israel shot into crowds of people who are throwing Molotov cocktails and rolling tires that were on fire at Israeli soldiers and throwing stones at those Israeli soldiers who are attacking Israeli soldiers.

00:36:29.000 How do we know this?

00:36:30.000 Because only 15 people have been killed and 10 of the people who have been killed in that border riot are active members of terrorist groups.

00:36:36.000 Active members of terrorist groups.

00:36:37.000 If Israel were really indiscriminately firing into the crowds, then there would be hundreds of people dead, not 15 people dead.

00:36:44.000 And if Israel were really attacking that entire group of people, they'd be using their F-16s to presumably strafe the tens of thousands of people who are there, not fire, in very discriminate fashion, at the people who are attempting to break down the border.

00:36:55.000 Now, the left hates Israel, of course, so Bernie Sanders says he doesn't believe Israel's story because Bernie Sanders is a rabid anti-Israel extremist.

00:37:02.000 No, I don't.

00:37:03.000 I think, from what my understanding is, is you have tens and tens of thousands of people who are engaged in a non-violent protest.

00:37:13.000 I believe now 15 or 20 people, Palestinians, have been killed and many, many others have been wounded.

00:37:22.000 So I think it's a difficult situation, but my assessment is that Israel overreacted on that.

00:37:28.000 Of course, of course that's his assessment, because there's never been an assessment by Bernie Sanders where Israel didn't overreact.

00:37:33.000 When terrorists are firing rockets into the center of Israel, then Israel is still presumably not overreacting. 0.51

00:37:39.000 It's still overreacting, because Israel's always in the wrong, according to Bernie Sanders, because he's a socialist first, rather than a defender of Western civilization.

00:37:47.000 Here is according to the Jerusalem Post.

00:38:09.000 It is also worth noting here, how much money did Hamas spend on this little demonstration?

00:38:13.000 They spent $15 million on this demonstration.

00:38:17.000 $15 million.

00:38:18.000 Right now, Hamas is in a state of complete economic collapse.

00:38:21.000 The Gaza Strip is in a state of complete economic collapse.

00:38:24.000 And yet Hamas is spending $15 million for this protest specifically because they want to misdirect from the fact that they are a terrorist group, like an actual State Department-sponsored terrorist group that is now sponsoring acts of additional terror against Israel.

00:38:38.000 That is the goal here.

00:38:39.000 And Israel ought to be doing a better job on its PR. 0.95

00:38:42.000 But again, it's demonstrative of the fact that when it comes to this particular conflict, the media only seem to care about Israelis killing Palestinians, even if the Palestinians are terrorists.

00:38:52.000 Worth noting that I think in the last month, something like 25, 30 Palestinians were killed in Syria.

00:38:59.000 Over the course of the Syrian conflict, almost 4,000 Palestinians living in Syria have been killed.

00:39:04.000 That's been completely unremarked. 0.90

00:39:05.000 When Muslims kill other Muslims, it's not a news story. 1.00

00:39:07.000 When Jews kill Muslims, it's a news story. 1.00

00:39:09.000 When Muslims kill Jews in Israel, it's not really a news story. 0.97

00:39:12.000 It's amazing how that works and that's because of the soft bigotry of low expectations that the media have attached to Muslims all over the world so that when Muslims commit violent acts the media basically ignores it or pretends that it's the effect of some sort of some sort of inequality or nastiness on the part of Western civilization when in reality 0.95

00:39:30.000 Muslims should be held all over the world to the same exact moral standards as Jews and as Christians, which is you don't get to kill people and get away with it unless you're killing people in self-defense, which is actually what's going on in the Gaza Strip, despite all of the rabidly anti-Israel media coverage.

00:39:45.000 No shock there.

00:39:46.000 Okay, time for some things I like, and then we'll do some things I hate, and we'll do a quick Federalist paper.

00:39:50.000 So,

00:39:51.000 We're good to go.

00:40:05.000 So here we are.

00:40:05.000 You have the opportunity to sit down with Mark Chardy.

00:40:07.000 He is the producer of the brand new flick, Chappaquiddick.

00:40:10.000 It is a phenomenal movie.

00:40:12.000 I had the opportunity to screen it a little bit early.

00:40:14.000 And Mark, it's really fascinating.

00:40:17.000 First of all, I have to ask you, how did this thing get done in the first place?

00:40:19.000 I'm sure you're getting this from everybody on the right.

00:40:20.000 How did a movie about Ted Kennedy leaving a woman to drown underwater?

00:40:23.000 Yeah, I mean, we didn't set out to make a political statement.

00:40:26.000 It came to me from a friend who's a manager, represented these two young writers.

00:40:31.000 They had heard this word Chappaquiddick and knew nothing about it, so they started doing research.

00:40:36.000 They got so transfixed that they started to pull all kinds of material.

00:40:40.000 The inquest most of was their research, and they just wrote a script.

00:40:44.000 They spec'd the script, wrote it, and my friend sat down, and we had a lunch together, and he said, hey, I got this script.

00:40:52.000 He goes, I have no idea how

00:40:54.000 How Hollywood is gonna, you know, respond to this, but he said it's really good.

00:40:58.000 So we read it, loved it, and we acquired it, and then set... I mean, we had no idea if we could make it.

00:41:03.000 You know, you obviously gotta get a director and a star and cast, but everyone responded incredibly well.

00:41:08.000 I mean, it was just such a kind of page-turning thriller that... and a history lesson as well, that's fascinating.

00:41:14.000 Did you get any pushback in town on making it from different actors who turned it down?

00:41:17.000 Yeah, there were a couple actors that really loved the script but just felt like maybe it was a little tricky, you know, politically.

00:41:25.000 So we kind of had thought, like, maybe we'd get an Australian or a UK director or actor and, you know, Jason Clarke, he's Australian and, you know, it's a brave choice but the role is so good and he's so good in it and if you can execute what was on the page, we knew we'd have something.

00:41:40.000 And there's so many great actors in the film, from Kate Mara who plays Mary Jo Kopechny and does it with just a tremendous amount of sympathy because you don't really see her as a full-fledged character until you see the film, to you have a couple of comics who are playing kind of the sidekicks to Ted Kennedy and it really is an amazing task.

00:41:54.000 Yeah, John Curran who directed it, you know, with the cast, he felt like, because the movie's so serious.

00:42:00.000 You know, there's a tragedy involved that he wanted to have, I wouldn't say lightness, but to the moments when you're in the war room, there's moments of levity, of kind of absurdness and where Ed Helms and Jim Gaffigan can kind of mine those.

00:42:16.000 You get laughs in the movie, believe it or not.

00:42:18.000 Some are uncomfortable, but some are just like absurd.

00:42:21.000 And when you have that timing, it helps.

00:42:25.000 And those guys were tremendous.

00:42:27.000 And Bruce Dern is in it for five seconds and he's just really powerful.

00:42:29.000 Terrific.

00:42:30.000 Terrific.

00:42:30.000 And well, I think one of the reasons that the movie is going to not only do well, I think that the critics will be okay with it is because you actually stuck really as much as you could to the facts.

00:42:38.000 I mean, there is no rumor mongering in this at all.

00:42:40.000 So as somebody who studied this from the time that I was younger as a conservative, where this is a big thing, right?

00:42:44.000 Yeah.

00:42:44.000 But there's all this speculation about was Ted Kennedy sleeping with Mary Jo Kopechny?

00:42:48.000 Was she pregnant? 1.00

00:42:49.000 You know, all of the sort of various things that people speculate because there's so many unanswered questions.

00:42:53.000 But the movie really,

00:42:54.000 Sticks to what you know, which I think is one of the strengths of the film.

00:42:57.000 Yeah, that was the purpose going in, you know, to not take, to go right down the center, just tell the facts.

00:43:02.000 And, you know, it's an indictment, no doubt.

00:43:05.000 You can't get around that.

00:43:06.000 But I think there's more nuance to the film.

00:43:08.000 And that was the intent.

00:43:11.000 And yeah, critics are responding.

00:43:13.000 And people on both sides of the aisle.

00:43:14.000 I mean, we did three screenings in Martha's Vineyard that were incredible.

00:43:18.000 And people just appreciated the care we took with it.

00:43:21.000 And, you know, you brought up Mary Jo Kopechny.

00:43:23.000 You know someone that never had a voice through this through 50 years their family had reached out before we made the movie I'd made brief contact and didn't want to be swayed in any way of kind of putting what we had down you know into the film and

00:43:39.000 So when the movie was finished, we connected again and we set up a screening for the family and they were incredibly appreciative.

00:43:46.000 It was very difficult to watch, obviously, but what they loved is that she's portrayed as smart and funny and ambitious and just, you know, a real person rather than not just a picture associated with, you know, a name, Chappaquiddick.

00:43:59.000 And that entire sequence of what happens to her is so heartbreaking, and it just really infuses the rest of the movie, because instead of it just being, okay, Ted Kennedy's just a lost little lamb, you know, with his family, you realize that a person died, and that keeps coming up throughout the rest of the film, obviously.

00:44:13.000 That's the thing, you go back and forth with, you know, I wouldn't say there's any sympathy for Ted, but, you know, there's some understanding and emotion to all the characters in it.

00:44:26.000 And so if you, you know, again, have a little nuance with the film, you know, it'll keep you going both ways.

00:44:32.000 He has a chance to kind of do the right thing, and then he doesn't.

00:44:34.000 Then he does something maybe that he should, and then he shouldn't.

00:44:38.000 So you kind of go back and forth through the whole movie.

00:44:40.000 It really is a tremendous film.

00:44:41.000 The film is Chappaquiddick.

00:44:42.000 And of course, we're talking with producer Mark Chardy.

00:44:43.000 And thank you so much for joining us.

00:44:45.000 I mean, I'm excited that the movie's even out there.

00:44:47.000 It's a story that has needed to be told for half a century.

00:44:49.000 I mean, I'll just say this on my own behalf.

00:44:52.000 If this had happened to a Republican, this would have been a movie within 30 seconds of it actually occurring.

00:44:55.000 So the fact that it took half a century for it to happen about Teddy Kennedy, one of the most famous men in the history of American politics, is pretty incredible.

00:45:01.000 Yeah.

00:45:01.000 Well, thank you, and, you know, we'd love to have all our audiences support it, but especially conservatives.

00:45:07.000 You know, they talk that Hollywood never does these kinds of movies, and we do, and it's not a partisan movie at all, and I think it's enjoyed by both sides, but certainly conservative audiences should support this.

00:45:17.000 I think it's almost a moral obligation for conservative audiences to go see this.

00:45:20.000 If they're going to talk about how much Hollywood is biased, they at least need to go support things that are not biased in favor of the left and that are good, solid takes on the facts like your movie Chappaquiddick.

00:45:28.000 Thanks so much for stopping by.

00:45:29.000 Thank you.

00:45:29.000 Everybody, go see the film.

00:45:30.000 It's terrific.

00:45:30.000 Appreciate it.

00:45:32.000 Okay, so that was a pleasure to sit down with Mark Chardy.

00:45:35.000 The movie, again, is fantastic.

00:45:36.000 I cannot recommend it highly enough.

00:45:37.000 And you have an obligation as a conservative to go see movies that are not overtly left-wing and that tell the truth about folks on the left.

00:45:43.000 So go out and see the movie and tell all your friends to see the movie as well.

00:45:46.000 Okay, time for some things that I hate.

00:45:53.000 So we've been told that the youth shall lead us, that the youth are the greatest among us, that the youth are the wisest among us.

00:45:58.000 Well, I have a story that puts the lie to this.

00:46:02.000 There is something called the Teenage Snorting Condom Fad.

00:46:06.000 I am not joking.

00:46:07.000 This is a real, actual thing.

00:46:09.000 According to the Sacramento Bee, it sounds like an April's Fools joke, but educators are warning about a condom challenge being spread online by YouTube videos and social media.

00:46:18.000 Also known as the Snorting Condom Challenge, or Condom Snorting Challenge, the fad actually dates back several years, but recently has gone viral again, educators say.

00:46:25.000 Now, you ask yourself, hey, listen, back when I was a teenager, it was just cocaine.

00:46:29.000 But no, now they're snorting actual physical objects that have mass and size up their nose.

00:46:35.000 Why?

00:46:35.000 Because no one really understands.

00:46:37.000 So the challenge involves, according to the Sacramento Bee, snorting an unwrapped prophylactic up one nostril, then pulling it out from the throat

00:46:44.000 Through the mouth, according to a Newsweek story.

00:46:47.000 Participants then post a video of the completed challenge to YouTube.

00:46:51.000 And the challenge has gone viral.

00:46:53.000 Okay, it is not new.

00:46:54.000 This first apparently started with YouTube star Savannah Strong in 2013.

00:46:59.000 Apparently, YouTube has been moving these stories and videos for a long while. 1.00

00:47:03.000 But it is not a good idea, it turns out, because you could, number one, choke on it, and also because you are putting a condom up your nose, you idiots. 1.00

00:47:09.000 What could you possibly be thinking? 1.00

00:47:11.000 Why are you stupid? 1.00

00:47:12.000 Okay, this is the same generation we had to just warn against eating Tide Pods, which is an actual cleaning product. 1.00

00:47:18.000 Okay, so don't eat Tide Pods, and also don't put condoms up your nose.

00:47:23.000 Comprehensive sex ed is just not going the way that people on the left thought it was going to go.

00:47:27.000 You know, when they were breaking out the prophylactics of the bananas back in third grade, they figured that they were trying to explain one thing.

00:47:32.000 It turns out that people were just trying to figure out a way that they could get the condom into facial bodily orifices.

00:47:37.000 It's just, what in the world?

00:47:40.000 And these are the people, these are the youth shall lead them. 0.99

00:47:43.000 Again, this is not to say that young people can't have some interesting things to say, but interesting sometimes means stupid, apparently. 0.97

00:47:49.000 And also, when you're young, just in terms of brain development, your brain does not really stop developing. 0.93

00:47:55.000 It doesn't reach its full developmental stage until you're about 25, 26 years old.

00:48:00.000 When you are 17, 16, 15 years old, you are the kind of person who does dumb stuff like this because you have an amygdala, which is your emotional response center, which is doing virtually all the heavy lifting, and your prefrontal cortex is underdeveloped as compared to your amygdalas. 0.98

00:48:13.000 That means you do lots of dumb crap when you're a teenager. 0.99

00:48:15.000 You do a lot of dumb stuff when you're a teenager. 1.00

00:48:17.000 And yet, the left is now saying, why don't we lower the votering age to 16? 0.98

00:48:21.000 Why don't we suggest that 12-year-olds can get an abortion without parental consent? 1.00

00:48:24.000 Why don't we say that 3-year-olds can change their gender? 0.94

00:48:26.000 You know, just because.

00:48:27.000 They're three.

00:48:28.000 I mean, come on, they're the most innocent and beautiful among us.

00:48:31.000 Why should we put our societal values on them?

00:48:34.000 Because you're an adult, and kids are kids.

00:48:37.000 And I'm speaking as someone who's a syndicated columnist at age 17.

00:48:40.000 I didn't know as much stuff at 17 as I do now.

00:48:43.000 My self-control was not as great at 17 as it is now, and I had pretty good self-control when I was 17, and still I've had more self-control now than then.

00:48:51.000 So before we hear all about how the youth shall lead us, perhaps they should learn where particular, where particular prophylactics are designed to be used, okay?

00:49:00.000 It's not the nose.

00:49:01.000 What in the world?

00:49:03.000 So good job, everybody.

00:49:05.000 Speaking of people who appear to have snorted a condom and left it just in their brain, embedded there, Chelsea Handler tweeted something out really insane about the Second Amendment the other day. 1.00

00:49:14.000 Here's what it looked like.

00:49:18.000 She tweeted, Because she was asked about being ignorant of the Constitution and not knowing anything about how the Constitution works.

00:49:26.000 So somebody tweeted,

00:49:34.000 First of all, I would guarantee that her armed guards have semi-automatic weapons and she doesn't know what a semi-automatic weapon is. 0.94

00:49:38.000 That's number one.

00:49:39.000 Because every armed guard I've ever worked with has a semi-automatic weapon.

00:49:42.000 You know why?

00:49:43.000 Because virtually every pistol in the United States is a semi-automatic weapon.

00:49:47.000 Unless they're carrying a revolver.

00:49:48.000 Unless they're carrying, like, an old-style Dirty Harry Colt .45.

00:49:52.000 It's a semi-automatic weapon.

00:49:53.000 Second of all, guess who else isn't killing children?

00:49:56.000 Anyone else who has a semi-automatic weapon in the United States and is not the shooter in Parkland.

00:50:02.000 And so it's all fun and games for Chelsea Handler because I guess her armed guards are apparently the only people in the United States who have semi-automatic weapons who are not murdering children.

00:50:11.000 Amazing!

00:50:12.000 I mean, good for her that she found the five guys in America with semi-automatic weapons who aren't shooting children.

00:50:16.000 What an amazing feat!

00:50:19.000 It's not that there are millions of Americans who own semi-automatic weapons and use them to defend their children and not to shoot children.

00:50:24.000 No, it's that Chelsea Handler's people are just the best people.

00:50:26.000 They're just the best people.

00:50:28.000 And then they wonder why we don't trust them on Second Amendment issues, when they've got spokespeople like Chelsea Handler and condom-snorting teenagers.

00:50:36.000 Not to suggest the kids at Parkland are doing that, but again, the youth of America, there are some questions to be asked, that's all I'm saying.

00:50:42.000 Okay, so, Federalist paper.

00:50:44.000 So every week we go through a Federalist paper.

00:50:46.000 We are now up to Federalist 22.

00:50:48.000 Alexander Hamilton wrote Federalist No.

00:50:51.000 22, and this Federalist paper continues with the flaws of the current Articles of Confederation that was replaced by the Constitution of the United States.

00:50:58.000 He makes several criticisms of the Articles of Confederation in this particular Federalist paper.

00:51:04.000 First he says,

00:51:05.000 We need a system that does not allow internal tariffs or allow various parts of the country to refuse to abide by foreign tariff rules.

00:51:11.000 In other words, you need a federal government that can set tariff policy and you can't have states that override it.

00:51:17.000 Otherwise, none of the tariff policies that you actually impose

00:51:21.000 We're good to go.

00:51:36.000 Under the Articles of Confederation, the way that the army was summoned was by going to particular states and requesting that they send men.

00:51:43.000 This actually did not work well during the American Revolution, and he says this actually created a system of bidding where particular states, knowing they had to submit a certain number of men, would actually just put out

00:51:51.000 I don't think so.

00:52:08.000 I don't know.

00:52:26.000 If we don't have a judiciary that is going to interpret those laws and treaties from the federal level, then again, that allows state courts to basically stand as an obstacle to federal policy.

00:52:35.000 The most important thing that happens in this Federalist paper, Federalist 22, is what he says at the very end.

00:52:39.000 What he says is that the Constitution of the United States is to be approved by the people themselves.

00:52:44.000 That is why we the people is the beginning of the Constitution of the United States.

00:52:47.000 And the reason for that, and the reason this is important, is because one of the arguments in the Civil War was that once the federal government had violated the sovereignty of particular states, those states were signatories to the Constitution, and therefore, they no longer had to abide by it.

00:53:01.000 That the contract against the states had been violated, and so states had the ability and the right to pull out.

00:53:05.000 This is what they called compact theory, that the Constitution was a compact between the states.

00:53:10.000 It was not actually a compact of the people.

00:53:12.000 Hamilton, foreseeing this problem in 1789, is already writing about it.

00:53:17.000 He says,

00:53:23.000 So this is why there were specific constitutional conventions called in each state in order to approve the Constitution.

00:53:27.000 The idea here was that it was the people themselves who were going to approve the Constitution, and so the compact of the Constitution is between all of the people, not just the various states who have their various interests at play.

00:53:51.000 Okay, so we'll be back here tomorrow with all of the latest news.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - April 02, 2018

The Media’s Self-Defeating War | Ep. 508

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