The Ben Shapiro Show - The Moral Preening Never Ends | Ep. 395

00:00:00.000 Hillary Clinton says you are complicit in murder if you disagree with her on gun control policy. 1.00

00:00:04.000 Jimmy Kimmel is back for more, and it appears the Secretary of State called the President of the United States an effing moron at some point in the recent past. 0.99

00:00:12.000 Yes, all of these things are really happening. 0.95

00:00:13.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:00:14.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show. 0.99

00:00:22.000 The inevitable decline into stupid continues, and we will cover all of it. 0.99

00:00:27.000 The Rex Tillerson thing is pretty amazing. 0.99

00:00:28.000 I mean, he actually... There's a report from NBC News that suggested that he had called the president a moron back during the summer, and instead of him just sort of brushing it off, he decided to do a full-fledged press conference, and we have a clip of that, and we'll show it to you a little bit later, because it's pretty amazing.

00:00:42.000 Plus, Jimmy Kimmel just couldn't leave well enough alone. 0.94

00:00:44.000 He decided to go back on the air last night and double down on the, you're mean and cruel if you disagree with me on gun control.

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00:01:56.000 We begin today with more fallout from Las Vegas.

00:01:59.000 So President Trump, yesterday, he did sort of what he likes to do when he's asked a question that he doesn't know the answer to, which is he says, I'll think about it.

00:02:07.000 So yesterday the media asked him about gun control, and here was Trump's answer.

00:02:11.000 We have a tragedy we're going to do and what happened in Las Vegas is in many ways a miracle.

00:02:19.000 The police department has done such an incredible job and we'll be talking about gun laws as time goes by.

00:02:28.000 Okay, so the very end of it is what people are focused on.

00:02:31.000 The left is focusing on where he said that what happened in Vegas was a miracle.

00:02:34.000 Of course, he's only talking about the law enforcement response.

00:02:36.000 He's not talking about the shooting itself. 0.97

00:02:38.000 People taking him out of context here are ridiculous. 0.92

00:02:40.000 Clearly, he's not talking about Americans being murdered being a miracle. 0.84

00:02:44.000 But it's that last part where he says, we'll talk about gun control as time goes by, that has a lot of people on the left very hopeful.

00:02:49.000 Now, is Trump actually going to pursue that?

00:02:51.000 No.

00:02:52.000 He's not going to pursue any of that.

00:02:53.000 That's Trump's go-to when he doesn't know what to say or he just wants to say something to leave the media with something to think about.

00:03:00.000 But the reality is that Republicans are not pushing gun control right now because no gun control measure that I can think of or that anyone on the left can think of would have stopped what just happened in Las Vegas.

00:03:10.000 Why?

00:03:10.000 Because it was unprecedented.

00:03:11.000 Because it was unthinkable.

00:03:13.000 And because the guy bought all of his guns legally, or at least the ones he used legally, apparently.

00:03:17.000 And because he passed all federal background checks, had no symptoms of mental illness.

00:03:21.000 From what we know, that's what makes this whole thing so mind-boggling, this whole deal.

00:03:26.000 So, one of the things the left's been doing, as I discussed yesterday at length with Jimmy Kimmel...

00:03:30.000 I think?

00:03:45.000 No, I'm not a fan of this procedure, this technique.

00:03:47.000 I don't think that you being shot makes you an expert on gun policy any more than I think you being sick makes you an expert on health policy, or you paying taxes makes you an expert on tax policy, right?

00:03:57.000 You actually have to study issues in order to have expertise on them.

00:04:00.000 But one of the things I find really fascinating is that if you are a gunshot victim and you disagree with the left, they just pretend you don't exist.

00:04:07.000 So Steve Scalise is probably the most famous gunshot victim in the country at this point.

00:04:11.000 Steve Scalise, of course, the Louisiana congressperson,

00:04:14.000 Who was shot by a crazed Bernie Sanders supporter in the congressional baseball shooting just a few months back.

00:04:19.000 And Steve Scalise was asked specifically about Las Vegas and the Second Amendment and here was his answer.

00:04:25.000 Inevitably questions about the Second Amendment are raised by what happened in Las Vegas.

00:04:30.000 It happens almost immediately.

00:04:32.000 Have you, your experience of your own and what you saw in Las Vegas, has it changed how you feel about any of that?

00:04:40.000 I think it's fortified it because, first of all, you've got to recognize that when there's a tragedy like this, the first thing we should be thinking about is praying for the people who were injured and doing whatever we can to help them, to help law enforcement.

00:04:56.000 We shouldn't first be thinking of promoting our political agenda.

00:05:00.000 Okay, but he's not allowed to say that.

00:05:02.000 Steve Scalise doesn't exist.

00:05:03.000 Watch as he disappears from the media, even though, again, he's the most famous gunshot victim in the country right now.

00:05:08.000 Why?

00:05:08.000 Because he still has principles, and he has good reason for this, okay?

00:05:10.000 If there hadn't been armed guards there at the congressional baseball shooting, he'd probably be dead now.

00:05:15.000 The fact is that it was arms that stopped that monster, that bad human being.

00:05:20.000 And it's arms that stopped the guy in Las Vegas.

00:05:22.000 If the police don't approach the room, the guy doesn't shoot himself.

00:05:24.000 He just continues firing down into the crowd.

00:05:27.000 Again, the evidence that gun control would solve any of the problems that you saw in Las Vegas is really weak or non-existent.

00:05:33.000 Leila Bresco.

00:05:34.000 She's a statistician and former writer at FiveThirtyEight and she has a Washington Post column today that I think is really worthwhile talking about how before she started researching gun deaths, gun control policy used to frustrate her and she used to be anti-NRA and she used to think that shrinking magazine sizes and all of this would actually help with gun deaths and mass shootings.

00:05:54.000 And then she did the research and she found that that isn't true.

00:05:57.000 Here's what she wrote, quote,

00:06:21.000 And then she talks about Australia.

00:06:23.000 She says that Britain and Australia didn't prove much what America's policy should be.

00:06:27.000 She said neither nation experienced drops in mass shootings or other gun-related crime that could be attributed to their buybacks and bans.

00:06:34.000 She says, as I said yesterday, mass shootings were too rare in Australia.

00:06:38.000 for their absence after the buyback program to be clear evidence of progress.

00:06:42.000 And she goes through all of the gun measures that have been suggested, and she points out that the next largest set of gun deaths after suicide, number one is suicide, this is all stuff I said yesterday, number one cause of gun death in the United States is suicide, number two are young men aged 15 to 34 killed in homicide, very often in gang violence.

00:07:02.000 But the left never wants to talk about that because that would suggest different policies, including jailing people from gangs who commit violent acts for longer periods of time in order to tamp down crime.

00:07:12.000 I mean, it's really funny.

00:07:13.000 The same left that says we need to let people out of jail is saying we should put gun owners in jail.

00:07:17.000 So the people who actually commit crimes with guns we should let out.

00:07:20.000 The people who just own a gun we should throw in.

00:07:22.000 This seems to be the logic of some people on the left.

00:07:24.000 And that's a bit of an exaggeration, but not much of one, right?

00:07:27.000 The idea is that if you buy a type of gun the left doesn't like, you should go to jail.

00:07:31.000 But if you are in jail, we have an overpopulation in prison problem.

00:07:34.000 We have a school to, we have a streets to jail pipeline. 1.00

00:07:39.000 It's just foolish.

00:07:40.000 Okay, so we should release all those people, but we should put out law-abiding people who want to buy a gun that you don't want them to have in jail. 0.98

00:07:46.000 None of this makes sense.

00:07:47.000 None of it is effective.

00:07:48.000 But, again, none of this has to do with policy for the left.

00:07:51.000 The left thinks that it's going to win on emotional lines, because very often it does, right?

00:07:54.000 On healthcare policy, the left does win along emotional lines.

00:07:58.000 On gun control, it doesn't.

00:07:59.000 The reason is too many Americans own guns.

00:08:01.000 Too many people are familiar with how guns work.

00:08:04.000 There are hundreds of millions of guns in the United States of America.

00:08:07.000 And the implication that everyone who is somehow a gun owner is part of this evil is just absurd to people.

00:08:14.000 That's not stopping the Democrats though.

00:08:16.000 So Hillary Clinton yesterday, she came out and she said, Republicans are complicit in Vegas. 0.80

00:08:22.000 Do you feel like they're complicit, the GOP, the NRA, and the gun epidemic we're seeing in America?

00:08:26.000 Of course they are.

00:08:28.000 Of course they are.

00:08:29.000 You know, the Brady Bill actually kept two million guns out of the hands of people who weren't supposed to have them.

00:08:34.000 If we had gone forward with the background check capacity that we should have had,

00:08:40.000 And that it was up-to-date.

00:08:41.000 My gosh, we computerize everything and we can't computerize that?

00:08:44.000 Dylan Roof was never supposed to get that gun that he used to kill people at Mother Emanuel Church in Charleston because he had a pre-existing arrest that should have disqualified him.

00:08:56.000 But the system, you know, is deliberately kept all creaky and slow.

00:09:01.000 This is beyond absurd.

00:09:03.000 This is evil.

00:09:04.000 This is nothing but pure, unadulterated greed motivated by people who want to sell as many guns as they can to engage in a falsity of fear and rhetoric about why everybody has to have guns.

00:09:25.000 Okay, what absolute nonsense.

00:09:27.000 What absolute nonsense.

00:09:28.000 So everybody who wants to be able to buy guns legally, these are the people who are the problem, and people are deliberately keeping the system leaky.

00:09:35.000 Because here's the background on Dylann Roof, just so you have the factual background.

00:09:39.000 According to the New York Times.

00:09:40.000 So what happened?

00:09:57.000 Okay, do you think that Republicans don't want to eliminate human error?

00:10:00.000 Democrats were in charge of the government for a huge percentage of the time, right?

00:10:03.000 Barack Obama was president when all of this happened.

00:10:04.000 He could help facilitate this.

00:10:05.000 It's his FBI.

00:10:22.000 Right, but somehow this is Republicans' fault, right? 0.99

00:10:24.000 They're evil. 1.00

00:10:25.000 They're evil. 1.00

00:10:25.000 They want people to shoot people so that they can sell more guns. 1.00

00:10:28.000 If you really believe that, you don't know any gun owners and you don't know any Republicans.

00:10:32.000 The Democrats, though, are starting to really, I think, reveal what they think about gun owners and what they think about guns, which is refreshing.

00:10:39.000 I mean, I like when there's a little bit of honesty in this process.

00:10:42.000 And in just a minute, I'm going to show you what Democrats have been saying about what sorts of guns they want to ban.

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00:12:19.000 Okay, so there's Hillary Clinton doing the moral posturing and the moral posturing is designed to undergird a program of gun seizures. 1.00

00:12:26.000 How could this have been prevented?

00:12:27.000 Is there a law?

00:12:28.000 Congressman Himes ultimately said yes he'd be for a ban on semi-automatic rifles like the AR-15.

00:12:34.000 How about you?

00:12:35.000 Well, absolutely.

00:12:37.000 I mean, let's just be clear that the pace of these epic mass shootings, ten or more people being killed, doubled after the assault weapons ban expired.

00:12:47.000 That's not a coincidence.

00:12:49.000 I think we also have to look at these aftermarket modifications that allows you

00:12:53.000 Fairly to turn a semi-automatic weapon into an automatic weapon.

00:12:57.000 But Willie, I also don't think we can be caught in this trap.

00:13:01.000 I think the gun lobby wants you, in the wake of one of these mass shootings, to only talk about the policy changes that would have affected the shooting that happened the day before.

00:13:11.000 We have to get back to the evergreen changes.

00:13:14.000 I don't know.

00:13:25.000 Okay, so number one, so again, that is not true.

00:13:28.000 Many of the guns that are used in crime, I believe the majority of guns that are used in crime, are not obtained legally.

00:13:33.000 The idea that in mass shootings, the people are not going through federal background checks is not true.

00:13:38.000 This shooter did go through a federal background check.

00:13:40.000 I believe that the shooter in the Pulse nightclub shooting went through a federal background check.

00:13:45.000 So the idea that all of these measures would have stopped any of this is not true.

00:13:49.000 But notice what he glosses over there.

00:13:50.000 And that is that he says he supports a ban on semi-automatic rifles.

00:13:54.000 Okay, understand that's pretty much every rifle in the country.

00:13:56.000 Pretty much every rifle in the country is a semi-automatic rifle, because again, a semi-automatic just means you pull the trigger once, and one round is fire.

00:14:03.000 That's all a semi-automatic means.

00:14:05.000 AR, people think it stands for assault rifle, of course it does not.

00:14:08.000 Okay, AR-15 is one of the most popular sporting rifles in the country.

00:14:12.000 You ban that, you're talking about either having to confiscate literally tens of millions of these guns from law-abiding Americans,

00:14:19.000 Or preventing them from buying those guns on the market right now with federally licensed firearms dealers and background checks and the whole deal.

00:14:27.000 Democrats are starting to come out of the closet as to what they want here and Americans aren't going to like it.

00:14:31.000 It's so funny, the Democrats, after a mass shooting, they always think, ooh, now the tide of public opinion is with us. 0.97

00:14:36.000 The tide of public opinion is with the idea that we're all together in this and we hate mass shooters and we want them to die and they're evil people.

00:14:44.000 We're all on that, but we're not all together on the policies that you prescribe, because the policies you prescribe are very much contra traditional American concepts about freedom and liberty and gun ownership.

00:14:54.000 It's not just Chris Murphy who's trying to make hay off of this.

00:14:57.000 You also have people like Senator Ed Markey from Massachusetts arguing that the founders didn't want people to be able to purchase guns.

00:15:07.000 When the Second Amendment was written in order to maintain a well-regulated militia, they did not have in mind that people could purchase guns indiscriminately, go up into the top of buildings and rain down this death on 59 people, hundreds of other people.

00:15:34.000 Again, the founders did believe that you should be able to own weapons that you could use in the militia, right?

00:15:40.000 That meant a military-grade weapon.

00:15:42.000 We're not even talking about people owning military-grade weapons.

00:15:44.000 As I said yesterday, the difference between a civilian AR and a military AR is extraordinarily significant, right?

00:15:50.000 A civilian AR is a semi-automatic, a fully militarized AR, right?

00:15:55.000 An M16 or an M4.

00:15:56.000 Now, these guns have the capacity for burst fire or fully automatic, so there is a big difference.

00:16:03.000 But again, all this really is, is the left attempting to use emotion in place of real policy.

00:16:10.000 So, you know, Jimmy Kimmel was back last night, and Jimmy Kimmel is not backing down off of his, I am holier than you are, I care more about people who died, therefore you must agree with me.

00:16:20.000 Here's what he had to say last night to critics like me, who said that his gun monologue last night was factually incorrect.

00:16:27.000 I'm not going to get deep into it again tonight.

00:16:29.000 I said what I had to say last night, but I do want to say something to these nuts who spent most of the day today on television and online attacking those of us who think we need to do something about the fact that 59 innocent people were killed.

00:16:41.000 Can you pause there for one second?

00:16:42.000 Okay, so first of all, we didn't spend yesterday attacking people who think that something has to be done. 0.98

00:16:49.000 We attacked you for attacking Americans and saying that Americans are basically a bunch of dunder-headed, cruel jackasses if they don't agree with you on policy. 0.94

00:16:57.000 I mean, if you actually want to propose a policy, we can talk about the policy. 0.96

00:17:00.000 What I said in the minutes after the shooting is, how about we get all the information on the shooting and then we talk policy?

00:17:05.000 That doesn't seem unreasonable to me.

00:17:07.000 Now, I'm not saying we should never talk policy.

00:17:08.000 I'm saying we should talk policy once the information is in.

00:17:10.000 Why is this a difficult concept?

00:17:12.000 You know, evidence.

00:17:13.000 Information.

00:17:14.000 But again, Kimmel is strawmanning here.

00:17:17.000 He's basically suggesting that all of us who criticized him were really, we just don't want to do anything and that's why we're criticizing him.

00:17:22.000 No, I'm criticizing you because what you're saying is factually incorrect and then you're implying that those of us who want evidence to back our policies are somehow cruel and nasty.

00:17:29.000 Okay, he continues.

00:17:31.000 Talking about it because it's too soon.

00:17:34.000 Well, maybe it's too soon for you because deep down inside you know, in your heart, you know you bear some responsibility for the fact that almost anyone can get any weapon they want.

00:17:43.000 Now you want to cover yourself until the storm of outrage passes.

00:17:47.000 You can go back to your dirty business as usual, but

00:17:49.000 It's not too soon for us, because we're Americans, and last time I checked, the First Amendment is at least as important as the Second Amendment, so... Jimmy, I mean seriously, this is egregious stuff.

00:18:04.000 I hope you're a better person than this, but this is really egregious stuff. 0.99

00:18:07.000 If I didn't think you were a better person than this, I'd tell you to go to hell, because that's ridiculous, okay? 1.00

00:18:11.000 For you to suggest, go back to your dirty business? 1.00

00:18:13.000 What's my dirty business? 0.96

00:18:14.000 The same business as yours, okay?

00:18:15.000 Exercising my First Amendment rights to talk about policy and politics.

00:18:19.000 The idea that it's a dirty business if we disagree with you.

00:18:22.000 I'm not selling guns.

00:18:23.000 That's not what I do.

00:18:25.000 I've never sold a gun.

00:18:26.000 I own two of them.

00:18:27.000 I've never sold a gun.

00:18:28.000 I'm not in the gun sales business.

00:18:30.000 And it's not a dirty business for people to be in the gun sales business selling methods of self-defense to Americans who want to defend themselves and their country.

00:18:39.000 That's just insane.

00:18:40.000 But the suggestion that I bear responsibility for Vegas?

00:18:44.000 The only person who bears responsibility for Vegas is the guy who's pulling the trigger on a bunch of people who are innocent standing below.

00:18:50.000 If we're going to do that routine now, if we're going to suggest that we bear responsibility for our public policy choices with regard to gun control, then I would suggest that Jimmy Kimmel bears responsibility for every dead baby that he backs through Planned Parenthood. 0.66

00:19:06.000 There's a significantly greater connection between that. 0.97

00:19:09.000 Planned Parenthood's sole goal is to kill babies. 0.54

00:19:12.000 The goal of selling rifles is not to kill innocent people.

00:19:15.000 But I don't do that, right?

00:19:16.000 I'm not saying that Jimmy Kimmel is responsible for every dead baby in the country.

00:19:20.000 Because that's absurd.

00:19:21.000 Abortionists are responsible for that. 1.00

00:19:23.000 I think he's wrong on policy.

00:19:24.000 I think he's probably good-hearted. 0.93

00:19:26.000 For Jimmy Kimmel to suggest that everybody who disagrees with him, again, is just so disgusting.

00:19:30.000 For him to suggest that I have some sort of blood guilt on my soul and that's why I don't want to talk about this?

00:19:35.000 I've been talking about it all week, dude.

00:19:37.000 I've made my bones talking about gun control and the case for and against.

00:19:41.000 I know a lot more about it than Jimmy Kimmel does.

00:19:44.000 And for Jimmy Kimmel to suggest that anyone who wants to talk about it who's not named Jimmy Kimmel is somehow motivated by their dirty business, their greed.

00:19:52.000 I promise you, Jimmy Kimmel makes a hell of a lot more money than I do.

00:19:55.000 Jimmy Kimmel's making a lot of money off a lot of leftists who think that he is just the bee's knees because he does this kind of stuff.

00:20:01.000 So if we're going to talk about who's making more money off political pandering, Jimmy, I don't think that's a business you want to get into.

00:20:07.000 Yeah, but it's not just Kimmel.

00:20:08.000 Even more objective journalists like Chuck Todd are suggesting that, you know, it's just a fear of talking about gun control that's led to this impasse.

00:20:17.000 Folks, there's no doubt about what the Second Amendment does say.

00:20:20.000 But at what point does a person's right to bear arms start infringing on his neighbor's right to live safely and freely?

00:20:26.000 And if you've ever caught yourself checking the exits while at a concert hall, or a school assembly, or a movie, just in case, you probably already are ready to have that conversation.

00:20:36.000 You would think our leaders should be able to have it, too.

00:20:39.000 Well, again, I think there's actually a pretty easy answer to, when does my neighbor's right to bear arms impinge on my ability to live freely?

00:20:45.000 And it's when he starts shooting at me.

00:20:48.000 That's a pretty simple answer.

00:20:49.000 That's like saying, when does your neighbor's right to own a sword impinge on your right not to be chopped?

00:20:54.000 Well, when he starts trying to chop me.

00:20:57.000 Again, I think there are arguments to be made about what sorts of, you know, machine guns have been banned in the United States since 1986.

00:21:02.000 I think that's reasonable.

00:21:04.000 But, you know, for this suggestion that we have not been having the conversation we have, it's just the left is angry because they've been losing, because they don't have any evidence to support their positions.

00:21:14.000 And again, it's just infused the entire culture.

00:21:16.000 You can't even watch sports anymore without this routine.

00:21:18.000 Rachel Nichols on ESPN.

00:21:20.000 Again, ESPN should be staying out of this.

00:21:22.000 But we remember back in 2012 when Bob Costas was doing halftime reports on the NFL and he decided to inject his own politics.

00:21:29.000 Now we've got Rachel Nichols doing this on gun control. 1.00

00:21:32.000 Officials say this is the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S.

00:21:35.000 history.

00:21:36.000 A phrase I guess they're getting used to because it was only 14 months ago they were saying that about the shooting in Orlando.

00:21:43.000 The Orlando shooting claimed more lives than Virginia Tech.

00:21:45.000 Now this one claims more lives than what happened in Orlando.

00:21:49.000 I don't know how we're going to solve the debate about guns in this country.

00:21:52.000 I just know that while we're all arguing, the body counts keep going up.

00:21:56.000 Oh, so we have to stop arguing.

00:21:59.000 You know, we have to stop arguing, is what she's saying.

00:22:01.000 And the only way to stop arguing is for us to agree with her.

00:22:04.000 I do love that the talking points for Chuck Todd and Rachel Nichols are nearly identical with regard to these mass shootings.

00:22:09.000 As I said yesterday, using mass shootings as your gauge of gun control policy is actually a foolish idea because they are not representative of the broader whole.

00:22:16.000 I'm not the only one saying that.

00:22:17.000 FiveThirtyEight says that, okay?

00:22:18.000 Nate Silver's site says that.

00:22:19.000 Nate Silver is no right-winger on guns.

00:22:22.000 And then, of course, you have the greatest of all political commentators of the left, Keith Olbermann.

00:22:26.000 So, he attacked me on Twitter this morning.

00:22:29.000 I had said yesterday who made Jimmy Kimmel the moral arbiter.

00:22:33.000 And Keith Olbermann tweeted, Any other questions, kid?

00:22:43.000 So, a few things.

00:22:44.000 Number one, is the suggestion that every single person in the United States who owns a gun and believes in gun rights is part of a death cult?

00:22:50.000 Because I think that, again, death cults could be more properly attributed to people who think that Planned Parenthood is doing wonderful work in killing babies.

00:22:57.000 But I actually did have some questions for Keith Olbermann that I tweeted back at him.

00:23:00.000 Questions like, if you are so good at your job, why have you been fired from your last 3,297 jobs?

00:23:03.000 Also,

00:23:07.000 Was it his expertise in shouting things like en fuego that gave him the god-like ability to see into other people's souls?

00:23:14.000 Was it that?

00:23:15.000 And also, where'd he get his glasses?

00:23:17.000 Because those are actually kind of nice.

00:23:18.000 And then also, is he just okay?

00:23:19.000 Is he okay?

00:23:20.000 Because he doesn't seem okay, Keith Olbermann.

00:23:21.000 But this is the entire moral

00:23:23.000 Equation the left wants to set up, and I just find it despicable.

00:23:26.000 I find it gross. 1.00

00:23:27.000 Okay, so I'm gonna talk about Puerto Rico and the Secretary of State apparently calling the president a moron. 0.96

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00:24:44.000 Meanwhile, in other crazy news, there was an NBC News report this morning that the Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, back during the summer, said that President Trump was an effing moron. 0.99

00:24:54.000 I don't know why this is newsworthy. 0.99

00:24:56.000 Really. 0.99

00:24:56.000 I mean, I assume that there are people at this company, right, at Daily Wire, who behind my back call me an effing moron. 0.99

00:25:01.000 Mathis, I'm not going to name names. 0.93

00:25:03.000 I assume that there are people, Austin, I'm not going to name names, who call me that.

00:25:07.000 And that's fine because I'm the boss. 0.99

00:25:09.000 The boss is always considered an effing moron by the people who work for him. 0.99

00:25:13.000 There is nothing new under the sun. 1.00

00:25:15.000 It seems to me the best response to this could have been and should have been really like this is what we're talking about we just had a mass shooting like four days ago and Puerto Rico is half underwater and you're and we're going to talk about like whether the Secretary of State one time said that the boss was an effing moron. 0.99

00:25:29.000 I think that's really it but 0.99

00:25:31.000 But because President Trump is an egomaniac and because everybody has to pay personal homage to him, Rex Tillerson was forced to go out and do a press conference that got extraordinarily awkward when he was asked, did you in fact call the president an effing moron? 0.99

00:25:43.000 Can you address the main headline of this story that you called the president a moron? 1.00

00:25:48.000 And if not, where do you think these reports are coming from? 0.98

00:25:51.000 I'm not going to deal with petty stuff like that.

00:25:53.000 I mean, this is what I don't understand about Washington.

00:25:57.000 Again, you know, I'm not from this place.

00:26:00.000 But the places I come from, we don't deal with that kind of petty nonsense.

00:26:04.000 And it is intended to know nothing but divide people.

00:26:07.000 And I'm just not going to be part of this effort to divide this administration.

00:26:12.000 Well, that's not a no.

00:26:13.000 So that's awkward.

00:26:15.000 And it'll be entertaining to see President Trump's response.

00:26:18.000 He obviously has been all over Tillerson this week, over the North Korea stuff.

00:26:22.000 Tillerson's going to go.

00:26:22.000 It's just a question of when.

00:26:25.000 It appears, by the way, that the Trump administration is going to do something good and pull out of the Iran deal.

00:26:28.000 That is the latest news.

00:26:30.000 I will bring you updates on that as they unfold, if it unfolds during the show.

00:26:33.000 If not, then we'll cover it over at Daily Wire, obviously.

00:26:36.000 But that would be good news.

00:26:37.000 That would also be over the objections of Tillerson, who's become a rather marginal figure inside his own State Department.

00:26:42.000 So all of this is quite fascinating. 0.98

00:26:44.000 Is it a dumb story? 0.99

00:26:45.000 Yes. 1.00

00:26:45.000 Is it kind of funny that the Secretary of State called a press conference just to not say that he didn't call the President of the United States a moron? 1.00

00:26:52.000 Yeah, I'm gonna go with that's not great 40 MAGA MAGA MAGA chess. 0.97

00:26:56.000 That's not, that didn't seem particularly brilliant to me.

00:26:58.000 Okay, in other news that was not particularly brilliant.

00:27:01.000 So President Trump goes to Puerto Rico.

00:27:03.000 And he says some stuff.

00:27:04.000 Now, all he had to do going to Puerto Rico was basically go there and look somber for the cameras, because it is a somber thing, and help hand out supplies.

00:27:12.000 Do exactly what he did in Texas, right?

00:27:14.000 In Texas, he did it right.

00:27:15.000 He did it exactly correctly.

00:27:17.000 No criticism.

00:27:18.000 In Puerto Rico, for some reason, it was like Trump just decided that he wanted to have some fun.

00:27:23.000 And so before he even gets there,

00:27:25.000 First, he says to Puerto Rico, I hate to tell you this, but you've thrown our budget out of whack, which is a very weird comment in the middle of a hurricane relief effort.

00:27:32.000 Here's Trump saying that.

00:27:34.000 Mick Mulvaney is here, right there, and Mick is in charge of a thing called budget.

00:27:41.000 Now, I hate to tell you, Puerto Rico, but you've thrown our budget a little out of whack, because we've spent a lot of money on Puerto Rico, and that's fine.

00:27:49.000 We've saved a lot of lives.

00:27:51.000 Oh, well, you know, there it is.

00:27:54.000 They've thrown the budget out of whack.

00:27:55.000 How terrible.

00:27:56.000 So people are like, uh, what?

00:27:57.000 And then Trump today said, don't worry, we're going to settle Puerto Rico's debt problem.

00:28:01.000 They're not going to have to pay their debts.

00:28:02.000 People on Wall Street are going to get hurt.

00:28:03.000 So what happened to the Puerto Rican bond market?

00:28:06.000 Because everyone figured they're not getting paid back now.

00:28:08.000 So just good stuff from President Trump there.

00:28:11.000 I can't imagine what Tillerson had to say about it.

00:28:13.000 And then Trump did something that's even worse in terms of PR.

00:28:16.000 Here is President Trump going out there and throwing paper towels into the crowd like Kobe Bryant swishing jumpers.

00:28:26.000 If you can't see this, he is literally standing there and taking paper towels.

00:28:29.000 There are people right in front of him who are just asking for paper towels.

00:28:32.000 And there he is trying to flip them into the crowd, like shooting them into the crowd like a child.

00:28:37.000 I mean, he's gonna go out there with, like, a paper towel cannon, like he's at a baseball game.

00:28:41.000 And everybody's looking at him incredulously, like, really?

00:28:44.000 This is what we're gonna do now?

00:28:46.000 And here he is, just throwing things into the crowd.

00:28:48.000 He's like, you get paper towels, and you get paper towels, and you get paper towels!

00:28:54.000 So, I think that this is absurd.

00:28:56.000 It's not a good image.

00:28:56.000 I mean, for a guy who's made his career based on image, this is not a good image.

00:28:59.000 You don't want to look flip about hurricane relief.

00:29:02.000 Like, if you were at a blood bank, you wouldn't start taking bags of blood and flinging them around the blood bank.

00:29:07.000 It is kind of hilarious, I have to admit.

00:29:10.000 I laughed when I saw that.

00:29:12.000 But you can always count on the left to turn something that is an imagistic win for them into an imagistic loss.

00:29:17.000 So instead of them just saying,

00:29:19.000 Inappropriate for President Trump to be so flip about hurricane relief and that picture's really not great.

00:29:25.000 You know you want the president to be taking this seriously.

00:29:27.000 Instead, you have Democrats completely going off the rails and suggesting the most absurd thing.

00:29:32.000 So here is the council speaker for New York City saying that Trump was treating people like animals in Puerto Rico.

00:29:38.000 This president needs to be called out for his lack of seriousness to this humanitarian crisis, and this visit today was an utter disgrace and an insult to the Puerto Rican people.

00:29:49.000 To be throwing and lobbing paper towels at us as if we were animals, you know, is really making light of a situation that is very severe.

00:29:59.000 Throwing a test as if we were animals?

00:30:01.000 That wasn't what I got. 1.00

00:30:02.000 I got that Trump is, well, to use Rex Tillerson's word in these sorts of situations, a moron. 1.00

00:30:07.000 I think this was stupid. 1.00

00:30:09.000 I don't think it's malicious. 1.00

00:30:10.000 He's like, well, these people are animals.

00:30:12.000 It's like I'm feeding the monkeys at the zoo.

00:30:14.000 I really don't think that that's what's going through Trump's head.

00:30:16.000 Again, the left can't contain itself.

00:30:18.000 The mayor of San Juan, who has been in a hate-hate relationship with Trump for the last few days.

00:30:23.000 Trump went to Puerto Rico, was nice to her, and then she was nice to him for a minute, and then he left, and then she started ripping him again. 0.78

00:30:29.000 Here she is ripping the paper towel stuff. 0.99

00:30:32.000 This was a PR 17 minute meeting.

00:30:35.000 There was no exchange with anybody with none of the mayors.

00:30:38.000 And in fact, this terrible and abominable view of him throwing paper towels and throwing provisions at people.

00:30:47.000 It's really it does not.

00:30:51.000 Okay, so over the top.

00:31:02.000 So again, if Obama did this, I'd be all over him.

00:31:06.000 You would be too.

00:31:06.000 Let's be real about this.

00:31:07.000 We'd say he was being flip about it.

00:31:09.000 But this, it's not, it's not, this is not America.

00:31:11.000 This is not the beacon of democracy.

00:31:13.000 Like, come on.

00:31:14.000 Like, everybody just

00:31:15.000 Take it down.

00:31:16.000 Take it down a level.

00:31:17.000 Take it down a level.

00:31:18.000 And it was the same thing.

00:31:18.000 The media has been just overplaying its hand on everything.

00:31:20.000 They can't just call it out to the extent to which it's wrong.

00:31:23.000 They have to go over overboard by, you know, by leagues.

00:31:27.000 So, yesterday, here was Trump praising the low death count in Puerto Rico.

00:31:30.000 Now, that is something that, I mean, it is worth noting that Puerto Rico's had, I think, about 40 deaths, something in that neighborhood, which is supremely awful.

00:31:38.000 When people were comparing the Haitian crisis to Puerto Rico, however, it is worth noting that the Haiti earthquake

00:31:46.000 That happened, I think it was 2010, that the Haiti earthquake ended up with the death of something like 100,000 people, the Haiti earthquake.

00:31:52.000 I don't want to look up the actual number of dead in the Haiti earthquake, but it was way higher than this.

00:31:59.000 And here was Trump basically saying that.

00:32:01.000 The casualty figures, by the way, from Puerto Rico, where I'm looking it up, apparently it's anywhere from 100,000 to 300,000 deaths in Haiti.

00:32:08.000 In Puerto Rico, we are talking in the dozens.

00:32:11.000 And that is largely due to a, you know,

00:32:14.000 The federal government, or at least in part due to the government's ability to bring aid in timely fashion.

00:32:19.000 In any case, here is Trump basically saying that, and then the media goes nuts anyway.

00:32:24.000 But I'm just very, very proud of the fact that, you know, if you look at just one statistic, 16 deaths.

00:32:30.000 That's a lot of deaths.

00:32:31.000 Far too many deaths.

00:32:32.000 But 16.

00:32:33.000 If you look at Katrina, they had in the thousands.

00:32:36.000 And this was a storm the likes of which nobody has ever seen.

00:32:40.000 And, you know, we had FEMA here before the storm even came.

00:32:42.000 They were on the island during the storm.

00:32:44.000 And they were on the island before the first storm.

00:32:46.000 You got hit by two hurricanes.

00:32:47.000 So, uh, we're very proud of the job we've done.

00:32:50.000 Very, very proud.

00:32:51.000 And now we'll have to try and get them back.

00:32:52.000 The power is slowly getting on and the roads are open.

00:32:56.000 The runways are open.

00:32:57.000 So, these people that you've met today, all of the different people, first responders, these are incredible people.

00:33:05.000 Okay, so, that seems relatively unobjectionable to me.

00:33:08.000 Didn't stop CNN's Chris Chilesa from going off on Trump.

00:33:13.000 The clip you played, Brooke, is pretty damning, I think.

00:33:17.000 Using death counts as a talking point for how successful he's been in making a joke about how this is going to run over the budget.

00:33:25.000 But there's so much in that.

00:33:26.000 There's 13 minutes of video and audio there.

00:33:30.000 He talks about how the weather is usually so great in Puerto Rico.

00:33:35.000 There's video of him throwing food out like he's a dime store Santa Claus to people.

00:33:44.000 Even for Donald Trump, who is a breaker of political convention, who has, I think, defined the presidency downward in many ways... Okay, everybody just calm down.

00:33:53.000 Everybody just calm down.

00:33:54.000 Are people getting what they need in Puerto Rico?

00:33:55.000 If the answer is yes, everybody should be quiet.

00:33:57.000 If the answer is no, then we should all be all over the administration.

00:34:00.000 Okay? 0.98

00:34:00.000 And as far as the image stuff goes, yeah, Trump sucks at some of this stuff. 0.98

00:34:03.000 Okay! 0.99

00:34:04.000 Okay.

00:34:05.000 I mean, I really don't know what to say beyond that.

00:34:07.000 Okay, so I do want to get to some stuff I like and stuff I hate and a little bit of Bible talk, but before I do any of that, I first want to say thank you to our sponsors over at Texture.com.

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00:35:26.000 I don't

00:35:43.000 The TSA has some new rules and one of those rules is that you have to take books out of your book bag sometimes.

00:35:49.000 And so they picked exactly the right day for this because I wanted to look super pretentious and awful.

00:35:54.000 And so the only book that I had in my backpack that day was indeed Leo Tolstoy's War and Peace.

00:35:59.000 So I'm midway through War and Peace.

00:36:01.000 It is extraordinarily long.

00:36:03.000 A lot of people like the peace parts better than they like the war parts.

00:36:07.000 I will admit that I like Anna Karenina better than I like War and Peace so far.

00:36:11.000 Maybe I will change my opinion as it goes on.

00:36:13.000 But Tolstoy is a very lucid writer and a very easy to read writer, so anybody who says Tolstoy is difficult.

00:36:18.000 No, there are other Russian writers who are much more difficult than Tolstoy.

00:36:21.000 The new translation is quite lively and quite good.

00:36:24.000 The one that I recommend is by Richard Piviar and Larissa Velikonsky.

00:36:28.000 That's the one that I'm in the middle of right now.

00:36:30.000 And it is lively, it is fun to read, and the nice thing is that it's written in these serialized chapters, so you can read it three pages at a time.

00:36:38.000 It'll take you the rest of your life, but you can read it that amount at a time.

00:36:42.000 And it is indeed a good book, so it has not been overblown that this is a great book, because it is.

00:36:47.000 Other things that I like.

00:36:47.000 So yesterday, I was at the California State Legislature, and the Republicans in the legislature had invited me to speak on a panel about hate speech and the Constitution.

00:36:58.000 So I'm going to look at what the panel was actually called.

00:37:00.000 It was actually called, Combating Hate While Protecting the Constitution.

00:37:04.000 Okay, so you would assume that this would have something to do with how to fight hate groups, but half of this was about stuff that happened on campus, like at Berkeley, where I was speaking.

00:37:15.000 So they were conflating two issues.

00:37:16.000 They were conflating the problem with actual white supremacist groups and the violence that's going on campus, the implication being that a bunch of hate groups, so-called hate groups, are showing up on campus, or white supremacist groups.

00:37:27.000 I like to be specific, because when people say hate groups, sometimes it's like Southern Poverty Law Center hate group, which just means conservative. 0.55

00:37:34.000 So they were conflating white supremacists and like any conservative who shows up on campus and Antifa beats the crap out of people.

00:37:40.000 So the Republicans wanted to have me come and speak. 0.81

00:37:43.000 They wanted to have me on a panel.

00:37:45.000 The Democrats in the state legislature would not allow this.

00:37:48.000 They had 11 witnesses.

00:37:50.000 These witnesses included people like Erwin Chemerinsky, the dean of UC Berkeley, who spoke about the First Amendment and is quite pro-First Amendment, obviously.

00:37:59.000 They had a senior investigative researcher from the ADL.

00:38:02.000 They had a five-person panel that was basically an intersectional festival of victimhood, where people talked about how much they were victimized by hate crimes in California, which

00:38:11.000 is fine, except then there was a lot of talk about intersectionality and the level of political discourse and why the relevance of your identity group is relevant to the credibility with which you speak, which I think is a bunch of nonsense.

00:38:23.000 And then finally, they had a bunch of people, including Andrew Greenwood, who was the chief of police at Berkeley.

00:38:27.000 So they ended up having, as I say, 11 people on these panels, but they couldn't make any time for me on any of the panels, despite the Republican request.

00:38:34.000 Now, listen, I'm not a victim.

00:38:35.000 That's fine.

00:38:36.000 I don't care.

00:38:37.000 They relegated me to the public comment portion of this.

00:38:41.000 So the public comment portion of the hearing, you get two minutes and two minutes only.

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00:39:00.000 I think so.

00:39:24.000 Thank you.

00:39:53.000 Okay, so as I say, over at the California Legislature yesterday, I was given 120 seconds.

00:39:59.000 So everybody else was given 10 minutes, 15 minutes, Chemerinsky was given half an hour.

00:40:03.000 I was given two minutes in public comment, which, you know, they just open it up and whoever is there can talk.

00:40:08.000 So here is a little bit of tape of what I said.

00:40:11.000 I sort of reamed out the Democrats on the panel.

00:40:14.000 Your job, obviously, here at the legislature is to ensure that our freedom of expression is maintained, that our First Amendment rights are maintained.

00:40:21.000 And what that means first and foremost, in my experiences on college campuses, is that the heckler's veto must be stopped.

00:40:29.000 I was at Cal State Los Angeles in February 2016, and there was almost a riot there, and the police were not allowed to do their jobs, and students were physically assaulted in the crowd.

00:40:39.000 It is the job of this legislature to ensure that police can do their jobs.

00:40:42.000 And when they do do their jobs, and they're allowed to do that at places like UC Berkeley, everything goes fine.

00:40:46.000 And I'd like to make a point here about UC Berkeley.

00:40:48.000 The reason it cost $600,000 to bring me to UC Berkeley was not because of me.

00:40:53.000 Okay, everybody keeps suggesting that it was because I was coming.

00:40:55.000 I'm so controversial and so terrible.

00:40:56.000 I came exactly one year before and it cost this many dollars.

00:40:59.000 It cost zero dollars for security at UC Berkeley.

00:41:02.000 The reason it cost $600,000 at UC Berkeley is because Antifa and violent groups had decided that Berkeley was their domain and they were going to be able to run roughshod over law enforcement there.

00:41:11.000 And this does bring up one final point that I want to make in the long period of time that I have to discuss and that is the

00:41:17.000 We're good to go.

00:41:36.000 I don't know.

00:41:57.000 That as a legislature, your chief job is to ensure that my taxpayer dollars in this state go toward making sure that people like me and people with whom I disagree get to speak in places like college campuses, and not toward regulating what speech you find good and what speech you find bad, because it's a really dangerous business, and there's speech I don't like, there's speech you don't like, but if we can't agree that there is a difference between speech and violence, we're not going to be able to have a free state, let alone a free country.

00:42:21.000 Thanks.

00:42:21.000 Okay, so, I agree with me.

00:42:23.000 Good job, me.

00:42:24.000 So, there it was. 0.97

00:42:26.000 The Sacramento Bee had an entire editorial today about how dumb the Democrats were for barring me from speaking, essentially, until public comment, and then me getting up there and smacking them. 0.95

00:42:35.000 So, well done, Democrats, as always, undercutting your own points on free speech. 0.94

00:42:39.000 Okay, so, time for a couple of quick things that I hate.

00:42:46.000 Okay, so quick thing that I hate, number one.

00:42:49.000 So there's a pro-life GOP congressperson whose name is Tim Murphy.

00:42:53.000 He's a Republican congressperson.

00:42:54.000 He is a pro-life guy.

00:42:56.000 And apparently, according to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, he asked his mistress to get an abortion.

00:42:59.000 So he's been representing Pennsylvania's 16th congressional district since 2003.

00:43:03.000 He admitted to having an extramarital affair last month. 0.76

00:43:06.000 His old lover is accusing him of being hypocritical in his pro-life beliefs.

00:43:09.000 Apparently, the Republican congressman's ex-mistress texted 0.89

00:43:15.000 Quote, you have zero issue posting your pro-life stance all over the place when you had no issue asking me to abort our unborn child just last week when we thought that was one of the options.

00:43:24.000 And then Murphy said, I get what you say about my March for Life messages.

00:43:27.000 I've never written them.

00:43:27.000 Staff does them.

00:43:28.000 I read them and winced.

00:43:29.000 I told staff, don't write anymore.

00:43:31.000 I will.

00:43:32.000 Okay, so he does not deny having asked his mistress for an abortion. 0.88

00:43:36.000 Um, gross. 0.66

00:43:38.000 There are a couple things that are gross about this.

00:43:39.000 One, well, many things, okay? 0.85

00:43:41.000 Number one, mistresses. 0.97

00:43:42.000 Bad idea, gentlemen, okay? 0.77

00:43:44.000 Makes you immoral.

00:43:45.000 Do not do this.

00:43:46.000 Number two, asking your mistress for an abortion. 1.00

00:43:48.000 You're a piece of garbage. 1.00

00:43:50.000 Don't impregnate your mistress. 1.00

00:43:51.000 Don't ask her for an abortion. 1.00

00:43:52.000 It's not the baby's fault.

00:43:53.000 Your baby's fault. 1.00

00:43:54.000 You're a piece of garbage and want to protect your political career. 1.00

00:43:56.000 So, hypocrisy is bad. 1.00

00:43:57.000 But I would rather that somebody actually be pushing the right standard and not living up to it than that somebody be pushing the wrong standard and living up to that wrong standard.

00:44:15.000 This is one of my pet peeves.

00:44:16.000 I really don't like this stuff.

00:44:17.000 When there are Republicans who fall short of a moral standard that they've pushed...

00:44:22.000 The people seem to be much more angry that they upheld the moral standard than that they broke the standard.

00:44:28.000 So I'm angry at Tim Murphy because he didn't uphold the standard.

00:44:29.000 I'm not angry at Tim Murphy for saying the right things about abortion.

00:44:32.000 I'm angry at Tim Murphy for doing the wrong things with his mistress and with regard to abortion.

00:44:37.000 I'm angry at his sin.

00:44:38.000 I'm not angry at the standard that he was pushing in Congress that is the correct standard. 0.90

00:44:43.000 I don't want to fall into this trap of the easiest way in politics to avoid being a hypocrite is to have no standards. 0.71

00:44:48.000 Right, that's true. 0.98

00:44:49.000 The easiest way to avoid being a hypocrite in politics is to have no standards. 1.00

00:44:52.000 If you're Bill Clinton and you have no standards about abortion or sexual promiscuity, then it's very easy to get away with crap. 1.00

00:44:59.000 I don't like that. 0.99

00:45:00.000 Because I think standards are important. 0.97

00:45:02.000 So I think that we should relegate our criticism of Tim Murphy to being a piece of crap, not to Tim Murphy, his standard on being pro-life. 0.99

00:45:08.000 I think that's silly. 0.99

00:45:10.000 Okay, final thing that I hate.

00:45:12.000 This is the last thing I hate you're getting for a week and a half, so treasure this.

00:45:15.000 Take it near to your heart. 0.98

00:45:16.000 Michelle Obama, for some reason, has decided to emerge from the woodwork again to talk about how America's racist, sexist, bigot, homophobe. 0.66

00:45:24.000 This is 2008 Michelle Obama, not 2015 Michelle Obama, who was popular. 0.67

00:45:28.000 I don't, you know, I don't like this version of Michelle Obama.

00:45:30.000 Neither did Americans in 2008.

00:45:34.000 Physically, there's a difference in color, in the tone.

00:45:38.000 Wow.

00:45:38.000 Because one side, all men, all white.

00:45:43.000 On the other side, some women, some people of color.

00:45:48.000 And people look down at that and go, yeah, yeah, that looks good.

00:45:51.000 That looks right.

00:45:52.000 We're probably getting a lot done.

00:45:54.000 We're doing it right.

00:45:56.000 I look at that and I go, no wonder.

00:46:00.000 No wonder we struggle.

00:46:01.000 No wonder people don't trust politics.

00:46:05.000 We're not even noticing what these rooms look like.

00:46:09.000 This idea that, you know, on the Republicans, they're all gray and white.

00:46:13.000 That's the color palette.

00:46:14.000 On the other side of the room, there are yellows and blues and whites and greens, and there's a difference on the one because the left is just so much better at doing things because, you know, they actively have more people who are people of color.

00:46:25.000 Again, if you're judging somebody's merit or their viewpoint based on their color, this makes you a racist by definition.

00:46:30.000 So, just because you happen to be a black person saying that doesn't make you a non-racist. 0.98

00:46:35.000 That's silly. 0.99

00:46:35.000 Okay, quick Bible talk. 0.99

00:46:37.000 So,

00:46:38.000 This week, the reason I'm taking off time and taking my vacation at the same time, because I would have to take the days off anyway, is because this week we celebrate Sukkot.

00:46:44.000 Sukkot is a celebration in the Jewish calendar of the...

00:46:50.000 Wanderings in the wilderness, essentially.

00:46:52.000 We used to live in basically booths.

00:46:54.000 And what Sukkot is supposed to represent, we actually go outside and we eat in essentially a shack that we set up.

00:47:00.000 It's three sides, or two and a half sides at minimum, but three sides usually, that are sort of made, it's almost like a tarp draped over some poles, and then you have some palm fronds on top.

00:47:10.000 That's sort of the typical way the Sukkot are done. 0.99

00:47:12.000 Sukkah is just the booth.

00:47:15.000 And

00:47:16.000 It's supposed to remind us of our time in the desert and how fragile everything was and the idea that the entire world is basically that Sukkah, right? 0.95

00:47:23.000 Your entire material life is that Sukkah. 0.98

00:47:25.000 We decorate it, we make it beautiful, but in the end it can be blown away quickly just like that.

00:47:30.000 And we have to remember that there is a deeper meaning to everything that we do.

00:47:33.000 There's a whole wider world outside the Sukkah.

00:47:35.000 Our attempts to create a permanent life for ourselves in this world are

00:47:40.000 Essentially in vain.

00:47:41.000 Doesn't mean you shouldn't do it, doesn't mean that you shouldn't pursue a better life and a more beautiful life for yourself, but you have to understand that there is a world beyond this one, a meaning beyond this one, and that investing solely in the material is a mistake.

00:47:51.000 Okay, there's a bunch of beautiful commandments that have to do with Sukkot. 0.87

00:47:54.000 One of them is waiving what's called the lulav and the esrog. 0.99

00:47:57.000 So the lulav and esrog, you may have seen videos of Orthodox Jews doing this.

00:48:02.000 It talks about it in the New Testament when they talk about the festival with the fronds.

00:48:04.000 Okay, that's what they're talking about.

00:48:07.000 What you're waving is you're waving a palm frond that's basically tied up so it looks like a stick almost.

00:48:12.000 And then on one side you have myrtle and on the other side you have willow and then you hold also together with this an esrog which is basically a citron.

00:48:19.000 It looks like a lemon.

00:48:20.000 It's a big lemon.

00:48:21.000 It's a different fruit but it looks like a lemon.

00:48:23.000 In any case, what are these supposed to represent?

00:48:25.000 So, according to Jewish philosophy, the lulav represents people who study the Bible but don't do good deeds.

00:48:31.000 Or don't follow the commandments.

00:48:33.000 The Hadass, which is the myrtle, represents people who do good deeds but do not study. 0.80

00:48:39.000 And the Arava, which is the willow, represents people who don't study and also don't do good deeds.

00:48:44.000 It has no smell and no taste is the idea, so that represents people who don't study and don't do good deeds.

00:48:50.000 And then the Etro, the actual fruit, represents people who study and they also do the commandments.

00:48:55.000 So, and you hold them all together and you shake them before God, right? 0.54

00:48:59.000 This is what you do.

00:48:59.000 You actually take them and you shake them in the middle of sort of, we do some celebrating and you shake it in the middle during prayers.

00:49:06.000 What's the point here?

00:49:07.000 The point here is that in Jewish philosophy, you need all of these elements to have a nation.

00:49:12.000 It's not enough to have just people who are the righteous people, the people who both study and do good deeds and fulfill the commandments.

00:49:19.000 You need people who don't do either.

00:49:20.000 You need people who study and don't do the good deeds.

00:49:23.000 You need all of these people together.

00:49:25.000 The Jewish people and people generally are composed of all sorts of these people, and we have to recognize that our inherent value to God doesn't necessarily lie

00:49:34.000 Only in what we are individually, but what we are collectively, and that is people who care about one another, people who try to help one another, and people who recognize each other's weaknesses and still recognize that we're brothers and sisters.

00:49:43.000 I've talked a lot about unity this week, because in the aftermath of something like Vegas, it's easy for us to fragment, and it's tragic that we fragment.

00:49:52.000 If we are going to come back together, we need to recognize that it takes all types in the United States in order to make a country, and we have to move toward the notion that we're friends and not enemies, or the country is going to fall apart, and it shouldn't.

00:50:04.000 Okay, so with that message, I leave you for a week and a half.

00:50:06.000 I will be back a week from Monday.

00:50:08.000 Please, as I said last time, no Disneyland if everybody keeps ruining things.

00:50:12.000 So please, get it together, everyone, and stay safe out there.

00:50:16.000 Care for your families, and I'll see you in a week and a half after my vacation.

00:50:20.000 My well-earned, if I may say it, vacation.

00:50:21.000 We'll see you after a week and a half.

00:50:23.000 Love to everyone, and we'll see you then.

00:50:25.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:50:25.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

The Ben Shapiro Show - October 05, 2017

The Moral Preening Never Ends | Ep. 395

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