The Ben Shapiro Show - The Most Dangerous Insurrectionists Aren’t Trump Fans | Ep. 1238

00:00:00.000 America prepares for more Black Lives Matter allied chaos as the Chauvin trial ends and the media continue to make excuses for insurrection from the left. 0.81

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00:01:33.000 It could go either way.

00:01:34.000 I mean, that's just a frank assessment of the way the evidence was presented.

00:01:38.000 I thought the defense presentation was frankly kind of weak.

00:01:41.000 I thought the prosecution presentation, as I mentioned, was frankly kind of weak.

00:01:44.000 I think the defense may have been better off just saying the prosecution didn't prove its case.

00:01:48.000 The prosecution did not prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Derek Chauvin committed either second or third degree murder or manslaughter.

00:01:53.000 And I think they might have gotten away with that because the fact is that the prosecution case did not really get all the way there in terms of causation.

00:02:00.000 There was serious question as to whether George Floyd died of excited delirium, whether he died of a drug overdose, whether he died of his pre-existing heart condition.

00:02:07.000 They're a serious question as to whether Derek Chauvin used a level of force that was unjustified under the circumstances to the extent that he would be prosecuted for manslaughter.

00:02:15.000 All of that may be true, maybe not.

00:02:19.000 There's certainly doubt.

00:02:20.000 And so for a jury to find reasonable doubt in all three of these charges would not be completely wild.

00:02:24.000 It would be kind of wild to me if you were convicted of murder on these charges.

00:02:27.000 The manslaughter charge is the one that seems like the most likely.

00:02:30.000 Scenario would be a conviction.

00:02:32.000 Andy McCarthy over at National Review has sort of a similar assessment of the evidence, that if you were on the jury, he thinks maybe he might vote in favor of manslaughter, but probably not in terms of the actual murder charges.

00:02:42.000 The judge is going to lay out the jury instructions, and those are going to make a large difference in terms of how the jury finds, presumably, if the jury has listened to the case.

00:02:49.000 If that is the case, then the defense is in trouble because the judge has been extraordinarily biased toward the prosecution throughout this process.

00:02:55.000 Beginning with the judge's refusal to move the venue of the trial, and then continuing with the judge's reinstatement of the third-degree murder charge, which really doesn't apply, and then continuing with the judge allowing a full week of testimony from onlookers just talking about how disturbed they were by the entire event, which of course is not probative in any way and actually does not constitute any sort of evidence as to the guilt or innocence of the party involved.

00:03:16.000 In any case, all of this is ancillary.

00:03:19.000 And here's the problem in America, folks.

00:03:20.000 All of this is ancillary.

00:03:21.000 Now, normally, in a criminal trial, the criminal trial is the central issue.

00:03:26.000 Normally, in a criminal trial, what's happening in that courtroom is the central issue.

00:03:29.000 What happens with the defendant is the central issue.

00:03:31.000 What happened to the victim is the central issue.

00:03:34.000 In this trial, that is not the case.

00:03:35.000 And this has been true in the United States for quite a while.

00:03:37.000 It is completely ancillary.

00:03:39.000 The only thing that trial is, is a WIC.

00:03:41.000 Okay, is the WIC going to get lit?

00:03:43.000 Or is the WIC not going to get lit?

00:03:45.000 If Chauvin is convicted, the WIC presumably will not be lit.

00:03:48.000 If Chauvin is acquitted, the WIC will be lit.

00:03:51.000 And there will be a massive conflagration and everybody knows this.

00:03:54.000 Which means that we have been treated Okay, now, here's the thing.

00:03:58.000 That was terrible.

00:03:59.000 I talked about it extensively.

00:03:59.000 I said that it was some of the worst imagery I'd seen in America since 9-11.

00:04:03.000 is a bunch of tool bags running into the Capitol building wearing Vikings horns.

00:04:07.000 And now here's the thing.

00:04:08.000 That was terrible.

00:04:09.000 I talked about it extensively.

00:04:11.000 I said that it was some of the worst imagery I'd seen in America since 9-11.

00:04:13.000 The idea of rioters running into the Capitol building itself and occupying the speaker seat and threatening the Speaker of the House and threatening the Vice President of the United States.

00:04:23.000 Just after the president had spoken.

00:04:25.000 And to be clear, that was a breakaway group.

00:04:26.000 There were probably 100,000 people who were there to hear Trump speak. 0.98

00:04:29.000 And then there was a small group of morons who decided that it would be a great idea to go take over the Capitol building. 1.00

00:04:33.000 It was dangerous and it was vile. 0.99

00:04:36.000 The notion that this provided some sort of large-scale threat to the Republic was asinine, as proved by the fact that the minute that those people were cleared out, Congress went right back to its chamber and did exactly what it was gonna do in the first place.

00:04:46.000 There was never a true threat to overthrow the government of the United States on January 6th, not in any practical, meaningful way.

00:04:52.000 There was a true threat in the sense that these people were threatening to do so, but they didn't have the power to do so.

00:04:56.000 What we are watching right now across the United States, however, is an attempt to overthrow, and we are looking at getting rid of systems in the United States Specifically on the basis that they are all corrupted at their root and they must be torn out.

00:05:09.000 And if it has to happen through violence, it will happen through revolutionary aggression.

00:05:12.000 What we're watching is the rise of left-wing authoritarianism, aided and abetted by the media and by the Democratic Party.

00:05:16.000 It is aided and abetted by people in power.

00:05:19.000 If you're talking about an attempt to overthrow systems of the American government, you have to pay attention when that is happening from within the House.

00:05:27.000 In the same way that it would have been a much bigger story and a much more important story January 6th if there had been members of Congress or the Trump administration actively colluding with people to overthrow the Republic.

00:05:38.000 The notion that you have people in power in the United States who are actively willing to overthrow things like due process, who are actively willing to overthrow things like field teach law, who are actively willing to overthrow the idea of equal rights under the law in pursuit of some sort of utopian equity scheme.

00:05:54.000 That is a form of soft insurrection.

00:05:56.000 And that is deeply, and in some cases, hard insurrection.

00:05:59.000 It is deeply disturbing to watch.

00:06:01.000 How is it that we are living in a country where we are at the point where we are worried that if the mob does not get its way in the Chauvin trial, right or wrong, if they don't get their way, we know that things will burn.

00:06:13.000 Can you think of anything else in American life that is like this?

00:06:15.000 Seriously, can you think of any other example that is like this?

00:06:18.000 Where you know that if a group of people does not get its way, that that group of people will run around burning things, and the media will cheer them, and members of a major American party will proceed to clap them on the back and call them friends.

00:06:30.000 Even after the January 6th incident, did you see lots of Republicans emerging from the woodwork to talk about how these people were wonderful and justified?

00:06:38.000 Can you name five mainstream Republicans who said this?

00:06:41.000 I can't, because they don't exist.

00:06:43.000 But you can't find anybody in the Democratic Party to condemn Black Lives Matter riots.

00:06:46.000 You can't find.

00:06:48.000 If they condemn the rioting, they certainly won't condemn the underlying ideology of the rioting.

00:06:52.000 You won't find five Democrats in America to talk about what's happening in Portland.

00:06:56.000 You won't find five Democrats in America to talk about the simple fact that if the Chauvin trial does not end with the conviction of Derek Chauvin, what you will end up with is the burning down of American cities.

00:07:05.000 And everyone knows this.

00:07:07.000 That's the thing.

00:07:08.000 This is not a secret.

00:07:09.000 We all know this is what's going to happen.

00:07:12.000 They're being clear about this.

00:07:14.000 Imagine any other cause in American life where the entire system would just accept the fact that America is supposed to shut down and allow things to burn if a group of people does not get its way under due process of law in the United States.

00:07:27.000 We're not even talking about people not getting their way in terms of legislation or people not getting their way in terms of a presidential election.

00:07:32.000 We are talking about people not getting their way in terms of a conviction of an individual who is being charged with murder and manslaughter and may spend decades in prison if convicted.

00:07:42.000 Can you imagine anything else like this in America?

00:07:44.000 And yet we just accept it.

00:07:45.000 It's just the normal.

00:07:46.000 This is the normal.

00:07:47.000 Okay, well, when this becomes the normal, that means the insurrection is inside the house.

00:07:51.000 That means the insurrection is not a threat from outside.

00:07:54.000 It is a threat that is being promulgated from outside and inside.

00:07:57.000 It's an inside-outside game.

00:07:59.000 This is nothing new in American politics, honestly.

00:08:01.000 If you go back to major American cities in the 1960s, when they were burning, sometimes you would have politicians actively fomenting people outside the government, participating in insurrectionary behavior, so they could turn around and say, I need to appease these people, or they might burn down the house.

00:08:13.000 That's sort of what you are seeing right now in American politics.

00:08:15.000 We'll get to more of this in just one second, because the utter sort of casualness with which we are treating the fact that we all know that America is going to burn if Chauvin doesn't get convicted, is indicative of something far deeper and far more scary than anything that happened on January 6th.

00:08:31.000 We'll get to more of this in just one second.

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00:09:46.000 Okay, so according to Axios, Minnesota is waking up to images of an occupied city on Monday as the city and the world awaited a verdict in the Derek Chauvin trial.

00:09:54.000 Residents running errands, picking up dinner, and heading to the dog park in recent days encountered heavily armed National Guard troops stationed throughout the city.

00:10:01.000 Some streets downtown are barricaded as far from the courthouse as Hennepin Avenue, and even more businesses across Minneapolis and St.

00:10:06.000 Paul are boarded up.

00:10:07.000 Now, we've been treated to the narrative from the left that all of Washington, D.C.

00:10:11.000 had to be enclosed in barbed wire because of the threat of January 6th.

00:10:14.000 And then it turns out that the Capitol Police officer, the next Capitol Police officer, who was murdered by somebody attempting to do harm to the system, was in fact a member of the Black Hebrew nationalist, I believe, right?

00:10:25.000 He was a radical nation of Islam followers or something.

00:10:29.000 Can't remember his exact affiliation.

00:10:31.000 He certainly was not a white supremacist.

00:10:33.000 And that story just disappeared.

00:10:34.000 Blip.

00:10:34.000 Gone.

00:10:35.000 Right?

00:10:36.000 Nobody paid attention to it because it didn't fit the narrative.

00:10:38.000 But the idea behind the barbed wiring of the Capitol was that this was an on... January 6th was an ongoing, ever-present threat.

00:10:44.000 Remember, we were told in the aftermath of January 6th that on Inauguration Day there would be giant protests around the country and things would burn.

00:10:50.000 Didn't happen.

00:10:51.000 But we all know that major American cities are going to burn because major American cities are already burning.

00:10:56.000 Thanks to the Derek Chauvin trial and because of police incidents with people of color. 0.99

00:11:01.000 According to Axios, for months, officials and residents have braced for the possibility of more unrest at the culmination of the trial.

00:11:06.000 Operation Safety Net, a centralized command of state and local law enforcement, was formed to prevent a repeat of the fires and looting that followed George Floyd's killing last summer.

00:11:13.000 But the jury deliberations, which will begin following Monday's closing arguments, are coming at an especially fraught time.

00:11:20.000 The police shooting of 20-year-old Daunte Wright in Brooklyn Center has already raised heightened community tensions ahead of the verdict.

00:11:28.000 These are people who are fine with people rioting and looting.

00:11:29.000 tear gas and other less lethal munitions.

00:11:32.000 And treatment of the press sparked intense backlash from protesters, local lawmakers, even doctors.

00:11:37.000 The Minneapolis City Council passed a largely symbolic resolution on Friday seeking to rein the operation in.

00:11:42.000 Some activists and local lawmakers are calling on Governor Tim Walz and mayors to dismantle Operation Safety Net altogether, right?

00:11:47.000 These are people who are fine with people rioting and looting.

00:11:51.000 Businesses remain on edge.

00:11:52.000 Last week's crime spree targeting Twin Cities establishments rattled many.

00:11:58.000 Given those stakes, leaders in the business community are also defending Operation Safety Net.

00:12:01.000 Minneapolis Regional Chamber CEO Jonathan Weinhagen told Axios, quote, But that does not mean that things aren't going to shut down.

00:12:07.000 They are shutting down.

00:12:13.000 According to ESPN, the NBA has instructed teams to be vigilant about the impact of a potential verdict this week in the Derek Chauvin trial for the death of George Floyd in Minneapolis, including the possibility of game postponement, sources told ESPN.

00:12:25.000 The looming specter of possible protests, civil unrest, and team reactions in the aftermath of a verdict has the league office preparing for the prospect that a night or two of league games could be postponed this week, sources said.

00:12:34.000 Used to be, by the way, in the United States that only a natural disaster or a world war would actually postpone national games like this.

00:12:40.000 But now, anytime there is a controversial verdict, On a racial issue, we have to postpone NBA games.

00:12:46.000 The Minnesota Timberwolves and Brooklyn Nets postponed a game last week after the police shot an unarmed black man, Daunte Wright, during a traffic stop in Brooklyn Center, Minnesota.

00:12:55.000 The Timberwolves started a four-game, seven-day Western Conference road trip on Sunday in Los Angeles.

00:13:01.000 The NBA and WNBA postponed a full slate of playoff games after another black man, Jacob Blake, was shot by police in Kenosha, Wisconsin during the NBA restart in Orlando, Florida.

00:13:09.000 The Milwaukee Bucks boycotted a playoff game against the Orlando Magic, triggering a full stoppage of league games for three days.

00:13:14.000 That was not because of fear of violence.

00:13:16.000 That was because members of the league decided they were full on in favor of people burning things and rioting and looting, apparently, in favor of Jacob Blake, a man who had been accused of digital rape.

00:13:29.000 And who, by the way, pulled the knife on police officers.

00:13:32.000 So we are now living in a situation in which any incident that is portrayed by the media as a racial injustice is cause for cities to burn and NBA games to be postponed.

00:13:42.000 And by the way, public schools to go distance.

00:13:45.000 According to Minnesota CBS Local, in anticipation of a verdict in the Derek Chauvin trial next week, Minneapolis public schools said in a letter to families that all grades will transition to distance learning Wednesday through Friday.

00:13:55.000 So children are being forced home from school.

00:13:57.000 By the way, doing amazing work on behalf of black children in Minneapolis, sending them home from public school. 1.00

00:14:02.000 That's probably good for the kids.

00:14:03.000 Just send them home, because things are great.

00:14:06.000 Keeping kids out of school, that's the solution.

00:14:08.000 So they're shutting down all the schools between Wednesday and Friday because of the Chauvin trial.

00:14:13.000 It means mob justice is likely to rule in the Chauvin trial, which is bad for Derek Chauvin.

00:14:13.000 What does this mean?

00:14:17.000 It also means that we're living in a country where we all expect that mob violence is going to break out when things don't go the way that the mob wants.

00:14:25.000 That is not something that should be expected in a country that has rule of law.

00:14:30.000 You have a few things that you can expect as a citizen of the United States.

00:14:32.000 One should be You can expect a certain level of safety and security in your community.

00:14:38.000 Not just from cops who are supposedly the deep abiding threat to your community, which is a lie, but you should be able to expect that your community is not going to go up in flames.

00:14:46.000 You ought to be able to expect that every time there's a criminal trial or a shooting without any evidence, by the way, because we've seen riots and looting after incidents that don't even end with a trial because it turns out that the shoot was good.

00:14:57.000 We all know how this is going to go.

00:14:59.000 The fact that we expect this is number one, the soft bigotry of low expectations for Black Lives Matter protesters slash rioters, and number two, part of a full-scale belief by the left that this is just the armed insurrectionist wing of a broader movement that ought to lay low America's institutions and ideologies.

00:15:14.000 But these people are just a little too passionate.

00:15:16.000 They're not bad.

00:15:17.000 They're not truly bad.

00:15:18.000 They're just passionate.

00:15:19.000 They're not doing anything that's truly wrong.

00:15:21.000 They're just raging out of control, because after all, this rage is justified.

00:15:26.000 If you're talking about the danger to the systems of the United States, I'm, again, not talking about the dangers of racism, because most of these situations, in fact, I'm hard-pressed to think of a situation in the past few years that has resulted in riots and looting that eventually ended up being chalked up to actual racism.

00:15:45.000 Usually it's police misconduct, police brutality, police accident, or police doing the right thing, and it ends with rioting and looting.

00:15:53.000 But the systems that people wish to tear down are systems of due process of law, systems of individual justice, and systems of private property.

00:15:59.000 These are systems that BLM explicitly opposes in many cases.

00:16:03.000 And private property being one of them, unless you're Patrice Cullors buying a $1.4 million estate in Topanga Canyon with all the white folks. 0.92

00:16:09.000 And again, aided and abetted by the institutions in our society.

00:16:12.000 Corporations are mirroring this.

00:16:14.000 The media mirror this.

00:16:16.000 Joe Biden mirrors this.

00:16:18.000 Sure, your politicians, who don't want to see things burn because it makes them look bad, will say a word every so often.

00:16:23.000 Joe Biden will say, I don't like rioting and I don't like looting.

00:16:26.000 How about this? 0.92

00:16:27.000 How about say that the police are not going out and willy-nilly shooting black people for no reason?

00:16:33.000 Instead, you have Joe Biden out there saying that black people are being targeted by the police on the basis of race.

00:16:39.000 That America has a systemic racism problem within its police.

00:16:43.000 Of course, he switches his tune every time a police officer is killed.

00:16:45.000 Then he'll stand by the casket and talk about how wonderful police officers are.

00:16:49.000 But that's not the overarching message as to how he thinks the system of policing in the United States works.

00:16:52.000 This coming from a man who sponsored the 1994 crime bill.

00:16:56.000 We'll get to more of this in just one second, because if you are talking about the real insurrection inside the United States, the most dangerous insurrectionists and their enablers, that is not happening in terms of the January 6th QAnon crazies.

00:17:10.000 That is happening from a mainstream ideology that has taken over the Democratic Party and that is rife in the media and rife in the universities and is being cudgeled into the corporations, into the corporate culture.

00:17:21.000 The institutions under which we live our lives are being gradually infused with a viewpoint that means the overthrow of traditional American values.

00:17:31.000 Traditional American values is not a euphemism.

00:17:33.000 I mean values expressed in the Declaration of Independence and Constitution of the United States.

00:17:36.000 It doesn't get much more traditional than that.

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00:18:53.000 OK, again, this is this is part and parcel, this mentality that if the Chauvin trial doesn't go the way that people want it to go, that things burn.

00:19:00.000 That's part of a broader mentality, which is that if we don't get our way, the systems of the United States are to blame because America's systems are corrupt and they need to be torn down to the root.

00:19:08.000 So Chris Cuomo, and this is enabled by your media.

00:19:11.000 First of all, before we even get to the media, let me just say that there are incidents all over the United States that the media just don't want to cover as national issues.

00:19:18.000 And what counts as a national issue is a data point that backs a media narrative.

00:19:22.000 Or even a data point that doesn't quite fit into the media narrative, but could be theoretically interpreted to maybe fit into the media narrative.

00:19:29.000 Those are stories that are national stories.

00:19:30.000 Kermit Gosnell killing babies after they're born doesn't fit into the media narrative about abortions.

00:19:34.000 That's a local crime story.

00:19:37.000 Derek Chauvin is a national news story because you can maybe, if you twist it and turn it and view it through the prism of systemic racism, maybe you can get to the idea that George Floyd died because of deep-seated American racism, as opposed to George Floyd's own actions in resisting arrest, his being high as a kite on fentanyl, his previous health condition, and maybe the misapplication of force by Derek Chauvin.

00:19:59.000 If you twist and turn it, you can fit into the narrative, so maybe it is a national news story.

00:20:02.000 But there are other stories that are not national news stories because they don't fit the narrative.

00:20:06.000 Like, for example, cops being attacked with Molotov cocktails in New York City.

00:20:10.000 This, of course, is never going to fit the narrative.

00:20:12.000 So, you had a situation in which the police had some sort of chemical thrown on them.

00:20:16.000 They followed the guy.

00:20:17.000 He proceeded to get out of his car and throw a Molotov cocktail at them.

00:20:20.000 And then when they arrested him, they found a bunch of other Molotov cocktails in his car.

00:20:23.000 Here's a little bit of body cam footage from the incident.

00:20:26.000 What are you getting out for?

00:20:29.000 Huh?

00:20:29.000 What are you getting out for?

00:20:30.000 Well, it's going out, that's why.

00:20:30.000 I gotta do my work.

00:20:32.000 You can open the door if you want.

00:20:33.000 Oh, yeah. Oh, oh. Oh, oh.

00:20:42.000 But why should why should traffic cops have have guns?

00:20:45.000 Why should the cops be able to defend themselves?

00:20:46.000 Obviously, people getting pulled over are never going to do anything bad.

00:20:50.000 Meanwhile, a suspect fired at cops in Georgia.

00:20:52.000 Again, not a national news story because even though it does fit a narrative, which is that suspects very often do resist arrest and cops have to do things to stop those suspects, You don't want to hear about those incidents, because that might lend a bit of nuance to how we treat police activity in the United States, where there are well over 40, 40 million police-civilian interactions every single year in the United States, and fewer than 20 of them generally end in the death of an unarmed black person.

00:21:16.000 Or at least the shooting of an unarmed black man.

00:21:18.000 We don't know the statistics on non-shootings, but it can't be much higher than that, considering that guns are the most common weapon used in the majority of these cases, presumably.

00:21:27.000 Here, for example, is a situation in Georgia where a suspect fired at cops.

00:21:30.000 Was this a national news story?

00:21:31.000 This is from the Carroll County Sheriff's Office.

00:21:31.000 Of course not.

00:21:36.000 How does that look to you?

00:21:38.000 That look safe to you?

00:21:40.000 That is a suspect picking up a rifle and shooting at the cops.

00:21:42.000 Now, have you heard a lot of calls for gun control on the basis of this particular footage?

00:21:46.000 Nope!

00:21:47.000 Because this footage does not fit the narrative. 0.88

00:21:50.000 You call for gun control when it's a white person shooting up a Walmart. 0.56

00:21:52.000 You don't call for gun control when it is a suspect of color shooting at the cops using a gun like that. 0.97

00:21:57.000 Then you just ignore it and it's not a national news story.

00:21:59.000 Then you literally just don't talk about it.

00:22:01.000 Then it is just not a national news story in any way, shape, or form.

00:22:05.000 And again, the insurrectionist viewpoint here, that the United States is evil and needs to be overthrown from the inside if possible, and forced from the outside if necessary, has become extremely common on a wide variety of topics in this area.

00:22:23.000 Now we get to the media and we get to the Democrats, who are softly backing this sort of stuff.

00:22:27.000 Again, the rioting in Portland has been ongoing for months at this point.

00:22:32.000 As John Sexton points out at Hot Air, rioting and arson in Portland have been continuing for literally months.

00:22:39.000 There was a fatal police shooting at a park in Portland Friday morning.

00:22:42.000 It started when a call was placed to the cops reporting a white man pointing a gun in the park.

00:22:46.000 Police arrived.

00:22:46.000 According to a witness who filmed the encounter, the man became irate.

00:22:49.000 He was shirtless, didn't appear to be armed at that point, though the witness said he'd seen him with a gun earlier.

00:22:53.000 Now, again, you notice that's not a national news story because it's a white person getting shot by the cops.

00:22:57.000 the ground. One of the officers shot him and the man died at the scene. Now again, you notice that's not a national news story because it's a white person getting shot by the cops. Friday evening, there were two protests announced and Antifa account called for occupation of the park where the shooting happened. They said that BLM was not welcome because quote, this is again, according to Antifa, to be clear, black unity and BLM squad are not welcome at the occupation because all they do is bring megaphones to exploit Portland's white guilt and swoop bleep. Okay. 0.57

00:23:24.000 Sounds kinda racist.

00:23:25.000 Both the Antifa and BLM march blocked traffic, but the Antifa march was eventually declared a riot.

00:23:29.000 It was the third riot in five days.

00:23:32.000 Andy Ngo, of course, had the footage because this is some of the stuff that he covers.

00:23:34.000 However, as you can see, Portland burning.

00:23:36.000 And they targeted the Portland Historical Society and the First Christian Church in downtown Portland.

00:23:52.000 They spray-painted No More History on the Oregon Historical Society, which, I mean, at least they're saying the quiet part out loud right there.

00:24:00.000 They targeted Nordstrom and Nike, so all of Nike's wokeness didn't buy them any help from Antifa.

00:24:05.000 And they painted Killed Cops on the side of buildings, which is always great.

00:24:09.000 Meanwhile, rioters decided that they were going to go hog wild in Oakland as well.

00:24:14.000 Apparently, they breached a target.

00:24:16.000 It was a very racist target, so that needed to be stopped.

00:24:18.000 They smashed out the windows of a target and started looting.

00:24:20.000 That was a really good way to fight American racism is by targeting the target.

00:24:25.000 In New York, there was scuffling between the police and protesters.

00:24:29.000 In Washington, D.C., groups were launching fireworks at people.

00:24:34.000 And having altercations between police and protesters.

00:24:36.000 Protesters were trying to disturb people dining.

00:24:39.000 They were chanting about how you're dining while people are dying, which is literally true all over the world, actually.

00:24:44.000 It turns out that every time somebody is eating, somebody is simultaneously dying.

00:24:47.000 I'm Planet Earth.

00:24:48.000 Who knew?

00:24:49.000 Okay, and when I say that this is being fomented and encouraged by members of the media, I don't know any other way to read it other than the media really kind of tutting this stuff, pretending that it doesn't really matter, because again, these are just the most ardent of the protesters.

00:25:07.000 It is not that they are doing something that is different in kind, they're just doing something that's different in degree.

00:25:12.000 Which is why it's not a big deal to the left when Maxine Waters says that Black Lives Matter should get more confrontational if Chauvin isn't convicted.

00:25:19.000 This is the same woman who declared during the L.A. 1.00

00:25:21.000 uprising.

00:25:21.000 riots that it was the L.A.

00:25:23.000 The same woman who declared just a few years ago that you should actively confront members of the Trump administration if you see them in public.

00:25:27.000 So it's not a surprise to hear Maxine Waters generating sympathy for people who, to get actively violent.

00:25:34.000 We've got to fight for justice.

00:25:36.000 But I am very hopeful and I hope that we're going to get a verdict that will say guilty, guilty, guilty.

00:25:46.000 And if we don't, we cannot go away.

00:25:48.000 What should protesters do?

00:25:50.000 Well, we've got to stay on the street.

00:25:53.000 And we've got to get more active.

00:25:55.000 We've got to get more confrontational.

00:25:58.000 We've got to make sure that they know that we mean business.

00:26:02.000 They have to know that we resist a verdict in a court of law, that we resist this.

00:26:07.000 How's that anything but sympathy for people who are rioting and looting?

00:26:09.000 I'm having a hard time finding any rational interpretation here other than that.

00:26:14.000 We have to get more confrontational, we have to stay on the streets.

00:26:18.000 Imagine if Republican lawmakers had said the exact same thing in the aftermath of January 6th.

00:26:23.000 Can you name any who did?

00:26:25.000 Seriously, I can't.

00:26:27.000 Maxine Waters has been saying this stuff for 30 years in Congress, and not a Democrat will condemn her.

00:26:31.000 Not one.

00:26:32.000 There won't be a single one.

00:26:34.000 Meanwhile, the media providing cover for this sort of stuff, even in soft ways.

00:26:39.000 Again, soft bigotry of law expectations with regard to behavior.

00:26:41.000 So CNN, Miguel Martinez, he was at some of these riots the other night in Minneapolis, and some of these protesters went over and started attempting to confront, as Maxine Waters might say, the members of the media.

00:26:54.000 And here's Miguel Martinez kind of, ah, you know, they're just angry.

00:26:58.000 Somebody hit me with a water bottle and then we sort of just started moving toward our cars.

00:27:02.000 They continued to sort of pelt us with whatever they could find.

00:27:05.000 We got in the car and we took off.

00:27:07.000 I cannot blame them for being angry, but you know, a lot of people are very angry, suspicious of the press, the corporate media, all those things come into it at these places.

00:27:17.000 And it was just one of those situations that it was intense.

00:27:21.000 There were people who were angry at everything and everybody, and we happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. 0.94

00:27:26.000 Oh, we happened to be in the... Actually, no, you were in the right place at the right time doing what is called reporting, and then a bunch of people acting like garbage decided to attack journalists.

00:27:34.000 It's unbelievable. 0.97

00:27:35.000 This is on CNN.

00:27:37.000 I cannot blame them for being angry.

00:27:38.000 Now, just imagine for a second that this has been a crowd of Trump protesters, angry at everything from Covington, Catholic coverage from CNN, to the Russia collusion nonsense pushed by CNN for years.

00:27:49.000 And imagine that they had actually started assaulting journalists.

00:27:52.000 It would be a national news story.

00:27:54.000 It would be a national news story about how Trump supporters are viciously anti-media, how Trump had driven the violence, and how the true authoritarian threat against the press in the United States is coming from the right.

00:28:04.000 CNN tried to generate that story even without evidence that people were really targeting the press in mass numbers.

00:28:04.000 And we all know this.

00:28:10.000 They tried to generate that for years.

00:28:12.000 And yet here you have active examples of rioters and looters and protesters who are actively mobbing and harming journalists.

00:28:19.000 And you have the journalists themselves saying they were very angry.

00:28:22.000 I can't blame them.

00:28:24.000 The reason you can't blame them is because you agree with them.

00:28:26.000 That is why you can't blame them.

00:28:28.000 Because you, the objective journalist, have taken the view that they are correct on the merits.

00:28:32.000 And because they're correct on the merits, they're just your allies.

00:28:33.000 They're just your allies who are a little out of control.

00:28:36.000 They're just your allies who may have gone just a little bit too far.

00:28:40.000 If that isn't fomenting the ongoing insurrection against systems of justice in the United States, I don't know what is.

00:28:46.000 You're literally saying, okay, you hit me in the head with a water bottle, but you know what?

00:28:49.000 You know what?

00:28:50.000 Your heart was in the right place.

00:28:51.000 Your aim was off, but your heart was in the right place.

00:28:53.000 Because they're against the corporate media, you know?

00:28:56.000 They're just against the system.

00:28:57.000 And we're against the system, too.

00:28:58.000 They just don't know we're against the system.

00:29:00.000 We were in the wrong place at the wrong time.

00:29:01.000 Because if we were in the right place at the right time, what we really would have been is we would have been standing next to them, is the reality.

00:29:07.000 That's an unbelievable quote from a so-called journalist.

00:29:11.000 I can't blame them.

00:29:12.000 Name a situation anywhere else on earth where you would say, I can't blame the protesters for attacking journalists.

00:29:17.000 Seriously, can you name a situation where journalists are like, yeah, I got attacked by the protesters, but you know what?

00:29:17.000 Can you name one?

00:29:22.000 Their heart was in the right place.

00:29:23.000 So really, it's my fault.

00:29:26.000 Really, it's my fault.

00:29:28.000 Again, it's part and parcel of a broader narrative pushed by the American left that you can do anything you want so long as you are anti the system.

00:29:36.000 It plays into the whole system of white supremacy narrative that is generated by the same CNN. 0.85

00:29:40.000 Here's Chris Cuomo the other day saying police reform is only not happening because it's black people getting shot, which is statistically untrue. 0.96

00:29:46.000 More white people are shot by the cops every year than black people. 0.99

00:29:49.000 And yet here is Chris Cuomo, dolt of the century, suggesting, and by the way, congenital liar when it comes to coverage of his brother and corrupt as all get out. 0.99

00:29:57.000 Here he is still on CNN, still reporting on CNN, suggesting that police reform only starts when white people's kids get shot by the cops. 0.99

00:30:05.000 Gun laws, access to weapons?

00:30:06.000 Oh, yeah, I know when they'll change.

00:30:09.000 Your kids start getting killed? 1.00

00:30:11.000 White people's kids start getting killed? 0.98

00:30:15.000 Smoking that doobie that's actually legal, probably, in your state now, but they don't know what it was, and then the kid runs, and then, pop, pop, pop, pop! 0.95

00:30:23.000 Cop was justified. 0.72

00:30:24.000 Why'd you run?

00:30:26.000 Oh, we had a baseball game tonight.

00:30:28.000 Huh.

00:30:29.000 Oh, big family.

00:30:29.000 White kid.

00:30:30.000 That house over there?

00:30:33.000 Those start piling up?

00:30:36.000 What is going on with these police?

00:30:38.000 What a joke our media are.

00:30:40.000 And not just a joke, dangerous.

00:30:42.000 Dangerous.

00:30:43.000 You know, it's not a joke because it's serious.

00:30:44.000 They're just I mean, this is dangerous stuff.

00:30:46.000 They are fomenting narratives about the United States that are untrue.

00:30:48.000 And in the process, they are making excuses for people who are writing.

00:30:51.000 And they've been doing it for months.

00:30:52.000 OK, this is nothing new.

00:30:53.000 They've been doing this going back a year.

00:30:54.000 They were making excuses for the mostly peaceful protests that were breaking out all around America's cities.

00:31:00.000 Okay, by the same standard that what was going on in Kenosha, Wisconsin, or L.A., or Washington, or Chicago, or New York, or any other major American city that broke into flames during the George Floyd riots?

00:31:09.000 By that same token, January 6th was a mostly peaceful protest.

00:31:13.000 Because most of the people there didn't go into the Capitol building.

00:31:15.000 That is not how that bleep works.

00:31:17.000 Okay, but the media, again, they are invested in this lie.

00:31:21.000 They are invested in the insurrectionist cause, which again, is to tear down equal systems of justice in the United States, due process of law in the United States, individual rights in the United States, a belief that we should be treated as individuals in the United States, a belief that you have actual rights to your property and against government.

00:31:38.000 All that has to be torn down.

00:31:40.000 And if that means incentivizing a few people to go loot a footlocker, then you know what?

00:31:43.000 That's just the way things are gonna go.

00:31:45.000 If it means incentivizing Minneapolis schools to shut down for two days so kids can't go to school, no problem.

00:31:50.000 If it means making sure that NBA games are canceled, if it means making sure that we all are on notice, we, the American citizen, the body politic, we are on notice, that should this trial go the wrong way, your city burns, and we will just cover it.

00:32:04.000 And if we get hit in the coverage by the rioters, that's our fault, guys, because they're really good-hearted.

00:32:08.000 They're just angry.

00:32:09.000 They're just angry.

00:32:11.000 They're complicit in this.

00:32:13.000 They're fomenting this.

00:32:16.000 Okay, that does not mean that they are individually responsible for people going and committing criminal acts, because again, human beings have agency. 0.98

00:32:23.000 But you are part of a broader movement that makes excuses for this crap. 0.98

00:32:27.000 No question. 0.98

00:32:28.000 Because you're doing broader good, right?

00:32:30.000 That's the idea.

00:32:30.000 And it's our politicians, it's everybody from Maxine Waters.

00:32:33.000 When Joe Biden proclaims that America is systemically racist and its police are systemically racist, but by the way, don't riot and loot.

00:32:39.000 How do you think people are going to take that?

00:32:41.000 When you make excuses for people being on the streets and rioting and not protesting, rioting and looting.

00:32:47.000 When you make excuses for them by saying things like the media are saying, well, they're just angry.

00:32:51.000 They're just angry.

00:32:52.000 It would be better if they didn't riot and loot, but they're just, they're angry.

00:32:55.000 And let's be frank, our police are bad.

00:32:58.000 What do you think is going to happen? 1.00

00:33:00.000 Seriously, how stupid do you think the American people are? 1.00

00:33:04.000 We now have an expectation that this is going to, an expectation, not it happens and we're shocked, not it happens and we react by going, What the hell is going on? 1.00

00:33:13.000 This happens and we expect it.

00:33:15.000 It is like the sun rising in the east.

00:33:18.000 Every time there is some sort of racial, not even racial incident, a projected racial incident by the media, we know things will burn.

00:33:25.000 That's part of the system now.

00:33:27.000 The insurrection is part of the system now.

00:33:30.000 Hey, which means that things happen and we're not even surprised at them anymore.

00:33:34.000 Things that should be surprising and shocking are not surprising to us.

00:33:38.000 For example, the former Santa Rosa home of Barry Broad is Santa Rosa CBS reporting.

00:33:44.000 Barry Broad testified as a defense witness in the Derek Chauvin murder trial.

00:33:46.000 It was smeared, his home, his former home, was smeared with animal blood.

00:33:50.000 A severed pig's head was dumped on the front porch in an early Saturday morning vandalism attack.

00:33:54.000 Don't worry, it's not a national news story, guys, not a national news story, because after all, he did testify for the defense. 0.87

00:34:00.000 Now imagine that one of the witnesses in the George Floyd killing had a white supremacist arrive on their doorstep, paint it with blood, and dump a pig's head on the doorstep.

00:34:10.000 Would that be a national news story, you think? 0.53

00:34:12.000 Would that lead news coverage for a week?

00:34:13.000 You bet.

00:34:14.000 But Barry Broad testifies for the defense, and somebody covers his former home, where they thought he lived, in blood and dumps a pig head on his front door.

00:34:21.000 No problem whatsoever.

00:34:23.000 Investigators believe the vandals thought that Broad still lived at the residence, but he hasn't been a Santa Rosa resident for a number of years.

00:34:31.000 Just beautiful, beautiful stuff happening in our country.

00:34:34.000 And all this, this is all part of the healing.

00:34:36.000 Don't you feel the healing breaking out?

00:34:38.000 When I say the media are complicit in this sort of stuff, I mean they're complicit in this sort of stuff.

00:34:42.000 Jason Nguyen is an Emmy-nominated investigative reporter in Utah for ABC.

00:34:48.000 He tweeted out a picture of a man entering a home in Utah.

00:34:52.000 It was reported by The Guardian as well.

00:34:53.000 Okay?

00:34:55.000 The picture of the man.

00:34:56.000 What did this man do?

00:34:57.000 He was a Utah paramedic.

00:34:58.000 He had the temerity to donate, I believe, $10 to Kyle Rittenhouse's defense in Wisconsin.

00:35:04.000 Howe Rittenhouse, of course, is the 17-year-old who shot and killed a person during the Kenosha, Wisconsin riots.

00:35:11.000 He claims in self-defense and the tape tends to back him up.

00:35:14.000 Somebody donated money to his legal defense fund.

00:35:17.000 The media went to his door and took a picture of him entering his house.

00:35:22.000 This is not journalism.

00:35:23.000 This is activism.

00:35:24.000 Which is, of course, why the journalists you're seeing are fully in league with the activists.

00:35:29.000 They're like, we're on the same side, man.

00:35:30.000 I'm just holding a camera.

00:35:31.000 We know.

00:35:32.000 All right, coming up, we'll get into the broader argument, which is that everything in America is racist.

00:35:36.000 America's history, America's institutions, everything in America is racist.

00:35:40.000 And that justifies the insurrectionist attitude that we are seeing throughout the media, throughout our politics, and on the streets of the United States.

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00:36:51.000 Again, the narrative when it comes to January 6th, that it was part of a broader American Where's the broader American movement?

00:37:01.000 Where is it?

00:37:01.000 Where's the broader American movement that seeks to overthrow America's institutions?

00:37:05.000 Completely rewrite them?

00:37:06.000 Destroy them from the inside?

00:37:07.000 Get rid of rights in the Constitution of the United States?

00:37:10.000 Get rid of the notion of individual rights?

00:37:12.000 Where is that?

00:37:13.000 Seriously, where's the broad movement?

00:37:15.000 What I see was some nuts.

00:37:17.000 Because statistically speaking, that's what we were watching.

00:37:19.000 Okay, it was like several hundred people.

00:37:23.000 What I'm watching on the other side is institutions that have been completely collapsing from the inside in favor of a mentality that says that America's basic notion of itself is not only wrong and unjustified, but needs to be torn asunder.

00:37:37.000 Which is why you have people like L.Z.

00:37:39.000 Randerson appearing on ABC's This Week saying that America continues to be white supremacist.

00:37:44.000 In terms of Marjorie Greene and that particular caucus, in denouncing her, many Republicans talked about how America wasn't built on these ideas.

00:37:55.000 The reality is this country was built on white supremacy.

00:37:58.000 And the reason why she's supported is because white supremacy is still very much a part of the American fabric. 0.91

00:38:03.000 So until we can acknowledge that, we're going to constantly be addressing these racial issues, particularly as they pertain to immigration.

00:38:09.000 We're going to have to end there, but you made your point.

00:38:11.000 And Martha Raddatz, everybody here is nodding along.

00:38:15.000 It's very important that everybody nod along to all of this nonsense.

00:38:19.000 Because if you don't nod along, this means that you're not woke.

00:38:22.000 It means that you don't understand America's horrific history with race. 0.97

00:38:25.000 It means that you're not part of the movement, if you don't nod along to this sort of stuff.

00:38:30.000 By the way, what LZ Granderson is referring to there is the fact that there are some of the more right-wing members of the Republican caucus, including fringe members like Marjorie Taylor Greene, who have posited that they wanted to create an America First caucus.

00:38:44.000 That America First caucus was supposed to work toward an infrastructure that reflects the architectural, engineering, and aesthetic value that befits the progeny of European architecture.

00:38:54.000 Right?

00:38:54.000 Basically, people saying they don't want brutalist architecture.

00:38:56.000 They want to see, you know, things that look like classical Roman architecture.

00:38:59.000 That is sort of the architecture that has traditionally characterized Washington, D.C.

00:39:04.000 Also, the seven-page document outlining the vision of the proposed America First Caucus mentioned the term Anglo-Saxon.

00:39:11.000 They talked about Anglo-Saxon heritage.

00:39:13.000 And this was treated, of course, as evidence of deep-abiding American racism, because how dare you mention Anglo-Saxon heritage?

00:39:21.000 I have a piece of awkward news for folks.

00:39:23.000 When it comes to the law and our systems, those are of Anglo-Saxon extraction. 1.00

00:39:27.000 They just are.

00:39:28.000 Anglo-American legal systems have been discussed by virtually every American president, including, by the way, Barack Obama, who not all that long ago was talking about the importance of habeas corpus The world is watching what we do here today in America.

00:39:52.000 They will know what we do here today.

00:39:54.000 And they'll treat all of us accordingly in the future.

00:39:57.000 Our soldiers, our diplomats, our journalists, anyone who travels beyond these borders.

00:40:04.000 I hope we remember this as we go forward, I sincerely hope that we can protect what's been called the Great Writ, a writ that's been in place in the Anglo-American legal system for Over 700 years.

00:40:21.000 By the way, you can see how all of this has shifted over the course of time for the Democrats.

00:40:25.000 How terms that are not racist are now being treated as racist.

00:40:30.000 If you believe that Anglo-Saxon heritage is somehow a rip on people who are not of Anglo-Saxon extraction, I'm Jewish, okay?

00:40:39.000 I have no dog in this Anglo-Saxon heritage routine.

00:40:43.000 I'm of Jewish extraction.

00:40:44.000 So I, like Antonin Scalia, am not somebody who feels that that particular ethnic description fits me.

00:40:53.000 But here's Antonin Scalia, an Italian, talking about how Anglo-Saxon heritage has shaped the United States.

00:40:58.000 This is not a matter of historical conjecture.

00:41:01.000 This is a matter of historical fact.

00:41:02.000 You can call it racist as much as you want, but the simple fact is that there are many good things about our Anglo-Saxon heritage As a culture, those are good.

00:41:11.000 Nobody is saying that everybody in America needs to be Anglo-Saxon.

00:41:13.000 I'd be out.

00:41:14.000 Right?

00:41:14.000 So would Scalia.

00:41:16.000 So would probably half the country.

00:41:18.000 There's Antonin Scalia making exactly this point just a few years back in 2006.

00:41:22.000 The French-Swiss professors I had would refer constantly to les pays anglo-sax, the Anglo-Saxon countries.

00:41:33.000 Meaning England, the United States, Australia, New Zealand, okay?

00:41:38.000 Canada.

00:41:39.000 I said, you know, hey, my name is Scalia, and I'm as American as anybody.

00:41:44.000 Look at this face.

00:41:45.000 Is this an Anglo-Saxon face?

00:41:49.000 I had never been in England, but at the end of my year, I went to England, and I felt at home.

00:41:57.000 There is no doubt that American culture, American common culture, which nobody has to belong to, originates with English culture.

00:42:09.000 Why is that even remotely controversial?

00:42:10.000 It's controversial because anything is evidence that the true threat to America is this intense white supremacy that continues to govern our lives despite the fact that it's pretty incredible that in a white supremacist country, a thoroughgoing white supremacist country, you can expect that every five minutes or so there's going to be a riot looting justified by the media and then tutted by Democrats while saying that the rioters and looters have the justification of good on their side.

00:42:33.000 And of course, all of this ties in that that broader American narrative that is being pushed by the left is about tearing away at the civil institutions of the society.

00:42:40.000 It's about tearing away any common commonality we have between ourselves separate from racial tribalism.

00:42:48.000 It's about making the country a worse place on the basis of the argument that America is already a terrible place.

00:42:53.000 And it's not true.

00:42:54.000 America is not a terrible place. 0.97

00:42:56.000 It is not a terrible place for black people. 0.99

00:42:57.000 It is not a terrible place for white people. 0.98

00:42:59.000 It is not a terrible place for green people. 0.98

00:43:01.000 It is, in fact, the best country on earth to live if you are a black person. 0.99

00:43:05.000 Name another country you would rather live if you're black. 1.00

00:43:08.000 Seriously, I don't know. 0.96

00:43:10.000 I don't know another country where I'd rather live as a Jew.

00:43:13.000 It's an amazing, amazing country.

00:43:16.000 The intense push by the left to rewrite the American bargain on the back of lies about what America is, and then to wink and nod at people who are engaging in acts of vandalism, looting, rioting, burning, arson, attacks on police officers.

00:43:34.000 And to treat that as not some form of larger insurrectionist attempt to overthrow these institutions in the soft, non-legal sense?

00:43:41.000 I don't know what you're watching.

00:43:42.000 I don't know what you're watching.

00:43:44.000 You have a right, as an American, to expect that the systems of power in the United States, the systems of government under the Constitution, that are constrained by the Constitution and the Declaration, are not overthrown by people who wish to see them die.

00:43:56.000 But I'll say that that right is certainly being infringed.

00:43:59.000 All righty, we'll be back here later today for an additional hour of The Ben Shapiro Show.

00:44:02.000 In the meantime, go check out The Michael Knowles Show, where he discusses Canada announcing a public health dictatorship.

00:44:07.000 You can hear more details about that story over on Michael's Show.

00:44:09.000 That's available right now.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - April 19, 2021

The Most Dangerous Insurrectionists Aren’t Trump Fans | Ep. 1238

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