The Ben Shapiro Show - The Most RIGGED Debate In HISTORY

00:00:00.000 What do you feel in your body when you hear the term white people?

00:00:05.000 I feel like a cringe about it.

00:00:08.000 White, straight, cisgender. 0.55

00:00:10.000 Man, it's the top of the pile.

00:00:11.000 I'm on the top of the pile.

00:00:12.000 It's me.

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00:00:15.000 Raise a glass if you're racist. 0.99

00:00:16.000 It's a racist. 0.93

00:00:19.000 That was really weird. 0.92

00:00:21.000 Don't deny that you're racist.

00:00:22.000 Try not to be racist, but don't... but also don't realize that you're... Until we're willing to talk about these things, healing can't really begin.

00:00:28.000 My daughter's four years old.

00:00:29.000 She's still watching Disney movies and choosing a white princess. 0.95

00:00:31.000 Have you talked to her about that?

00:00:33.000 All of the time.

00:00:34.000 Is racism inherent to whiteness?

00:00:36.000 Yep.

00:00:36.000 Yes.

00:00:37.000 Probably.

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00:00:42.000 Did race exist as a reality before?

00:00:44.000 We made race exist.

00:00:46.000 It does make sense.

00:00:46.000 Does that make sense?

00:00:48.000 What do you mean?

00:00:48.000 What you're doing is you're stretching out of your white.

00:00:51.000 It's this is more for you and less for you.

00:00:52.000 Am I racist?

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00:00:58.000 Folks, last night was a disgrace.

00:01:02.000 A full-scale disgrace.

00:01:04.000 That debate was rigged on behalf of Kamala Harris.

00:01:07.000 Soup to nuts, beginning to end.

00:01:09.000 ABC News should be ashamed of themselves.

00:01:11.000 They destroyed any credibility they had.

00:01:13.000 David Muir, Lindsay Davis were doing the bidding of the people at the top of the chain at that network.

00:01:20.000 The person on top of that chain is very good friends with Kamala Harris, actually fixed up Kamala Harris with Doug Emhoff.

00:01:24.000 I mean, the bias is real, and it is spectacular.

00:01:27.000 We're going to get into all of that, plus what Trump didn't do, what Harris did.

00:01:30.000 We'll get to that momentarily.

00:01:32.000 First, your reminder, last night, of course, last night, Trump and Harris went toe-to-toe on the biggest political stage on the planet.

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00:02:05.000 Okay.

00:02:06.000 Last night was a rigged game.

00:02:07.000 It was a rigged game, beginning to end.

00:02:11.000 We'll get to the three big elements of the debate.

00:02:14.000 Donald Trump's performance, Kamala Harris' performance.

00:02:16.000 But the biggest element of the debate, by far, was the moderators.

00:02:21.000 I don't think Trump did himself any long-lasting damage last night, because in the end, Donald Trump is still Donald Trump, and he will remain Donald Trump forever.

00:02:28.000 Kamala Harris, I think, actually over-performed for Kamala Harris. 1.00

00:02:31.000 I think this is the best Kamala Harris can perform.

00:02:34.000 The reason she could do that is because of the third factor, the moderators, and they did themselves lasting damage last night. 0.98

00:02:41.000 The legacy media made itself appear to be precisely what it is, a Praetorian guard on behalf of the Democratic Party. 0.98

00:02:50.000 David Muir and Lindsay Davis were so far up Kamala Harris' ass, they were performing active colonoscopies with their eyeballs. 0.98

00:02:57.000 It is impossible to overstate how in the tank for Kamala Harris they were. 0.99

00:03:01.000 The basic format of the debate was they would ask Trump a question about how terrible his policies were, and then they would immediately swivel and ask Kamala Harris how terrible Donald Trump's policies were.

00:03:12.000 It was unbelievable.

00:03:14.000 You have a question that effectively amounted to, Mr. President, when did you stop beating your wife?

00:03:20.000 And then he would attempt to spin, he'd attempt to defend, he'd get defensive, he'd answer.

00:03:24.000 And then they would turn to Kamala Harris and say, what do you think of him lying about beating his wife? 0.94

00:03:28.000 It was insane. 0.56

00:03:30.000 Insane.

00:03:31.000 And it's not just me saying this, the data are saying this.

00:03:34.000 Our friend Ryan Saavedra, reporter over at Daily Wire, he went through the debate transcript and he counted.

00:03:39.000 There were four fact checks last night, active fact checks on the stage.

00:03:43.000 Donald Trump was the subject of all four fact checks.

00:03:46.000 In fact, we have a montage of Donald Trump being fact checked.

00:03:49.000 Falsely, by the way.

00:03:51.000 Falsely.

00:03:52.000 In the majority of these cases, by the members of the ABC News moderating panel.

00:03:58.000 There is no state in this country where it is legal to kill a baby after it's born.

00:04:02.000 I just want to clarify here.

00:04:03.000 You've rigged up Springfield, Ohio, and ABC News did reach out to the city manager there.

00:04:08.000 He told us there had been no credible reports of specific claims of pets being harmed, injured, or abused by individuals.

00:04:14.000 Four active fact checks against Trump.

00:04:16.000 Zero against Kamala Harris.

00:04:17.000 And it wasn't just the fact checks.

00:04:19.000 It was also the interruptions and the follow-ups.

00:04:20.000 overall violent crime is actually coming down in this country.

00:04:24.000 And we should just point out here as clarification, and you know this, you and your allies, 60

00:04:28.000 cases in front of many judges, many of them Republican, and said there was no widespread

00:04:32.000 fraud.

00:04:33.000 Four active fact checks.

00:04:34.000 That's the other thing.

00:04:35.000 Four active fact checks against Trump, zero against Kamala Harris.

00:04:38.000 And it wasn't just the fact checks.

00:04:39.000 It was also the interruptions and the follow-ups.

00:04:41.000 Meaning, they would interrupt Trump when he was talking.

00:04:45.000 They would let Kamala Harris always finish. 0.99

00:04:48.000 They didn't interrupt her a single time.

00:04:49.000 The entire debate.

00:04:51.000 Trump would be in the middle of a thought, they would interrupt him.

00:04:54.000 Or, they would follow up and push him.

00:04:57.000 They never followed up on Kamala Harris.

00:04:58.000 They never pushed her.

00:05:00.000 Not once.

00:05:01.000 Not once.

00:05:03.000 Here is some footage of them interrupting Donald Trump.

00:05:05.000 They interrupted Donald Trump multiple times last night.

00:05:10.000 Here's the count. 0.92

00:05:12.000 Because they're weak and they're ineffective.

00:05:14.000 And Biden, by the way, gets paid a lot of money.

00:05:16.000 Thank you.

00:05:17.000 We have a lot of issues to get to.

00:05:18.000 Nancy Pelosi was responsible.

00:05:21.000 She didn't do her job.

00:05:22.000 The question was about you as president, not about former Speaker Pelosi.

00:05:25.000 But I do want Vice President Harris to respond here.

00:05:27.000 Putin did the invasion.

00:05:29.000 President Trump, thank you.

00:05:30.000 You said she went to negotiate with Vladimir Putin.

00:05:30.000 You did bring up something.

00:05:32.000 But until then, I'd run it as good as it can be run.

00:05:35.000 So, just a yes or no, you still do not have a plan.

00:05:37.000 President Trump, we have to move on.

00:05:58.000 President Multiple times.

00:05:59.000 Multiple times.

00:06:00.000 They pressed Trump, according to Ryan, six times for follow-ups.

00:06:03.000 They pressed Kamala Harris zero times for follow-ups. 0.99

00:06:07.000 Zero. 0.75

00:06:08.000 Now, their case is it's because Trump was just so dishonest.

00:06:11.000 As we will see, because we're going to go through this debate in detail, she lied like a rug. 0.89

00:06:11.000 He was just so dishonest. 0.89

00:06:16.000 She was awful last night in terms of her honesty.

00:06:20.000 She was fibbing.

00:06:21.000 I mean, outright, full-scale, debunked lies that she was just repeating ad nauseam last night.

00:06:21.000 She was lying.

00:06:27.000 But the media had a game, and the game was to follow her game plan. 0.97

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00:07:42.000 She laid out her game plan pretty early on.

00:07:45.000 In clip four, for example, she suggested that it was all going to be about the playbook that lies in the grievances.

00:07:51.000 She laid out her playbook and the media picked up on that playbook and they were going to repeat the playbook all night long.

00:07:57.000 Here she was laying out exactly her playbook against Donald Trump.

00:08:02.000 Let's talk about what Donald Trump left us.

00:08:06.000 Donald Trump left us the worst unemployment since the Great Depression.

00:08:11.000 Donald Trump left us the worst public health epidemic in a century.

00:08:17.000 Donald Trump left us the worst attack on our democracy since the Civil War.

00:08:24.000 And what we have done is clean up Donald Trump's mess What we have done and what I intend to do is build on what we know are the aspirations and the hopes of the American people.

00:08:35.000 But I'm going to tell you on this debate tonight, you're going to hear from the same old tired playbook, a bunch of lies, grievances and name calling.

00:08:45.000 OK, so the media picked up on that, right?

00:08:47.000 This is the whole media game. 0.98

00:08:49.000 Donald Trump is dishonest. 1.00

00:08:50.000 Donald Trump is mean. 1.00

00:08:51.000 Donald Trump is a liar. 1.00

00:08:52.000 And they were going to massage this debate into being that thing. 1.00

00:08:55.000 They did not ask her a single follow-up question.

00:08:59.000 They would ask her a question, the initial question might be okay, and then there would be zero follow-up at all.

00:09:05.000 So, for example, this debate opens, and the very first thing that's asked is a good question.

00:09:10.000 David Muir asks her, are Americans better off than they were four years ago?

00:09:14.000 And she proceeds to run around like a chicken with her head cut off. 1.00

00:09:18.000 And she talks about everything except the question.

00:09:21.000 It's a very simple question.

00:09:23.000 Here is the exchange.

00:09:25.000 When it comes to the economy, do you believe Americans are better off than they were four years ago?

00:09:30.000 So I was raised as a middle class kid.

00:09:33.000 What the hell is that?

00:09:34.000 And I am actually the only person on this stage who has a plan that is about lifting up the middle class. 0.51

00:09:40.000 What the hell are you talking about?

00:09:42.000 I believe in the ambition, the aspirations, the dreams of the Americans. 1.00

00:09:46.000 This is such jabbering crap. 0.74

00:09:47.000 And that is why I imagine and have actually a plan to build what I call an opportunity economy. 0.99

00:09:52.000 You notice, she's not, you cut her off.

00:09:54.000 She goes on like this for like two straight minutes.

00:09:56.000 Two straight minutes of, I have no idea what I'm talking about.

00:10:00.000 Very simple question.

00:10:02.000 This is where Trump comes in.

00:10:04.000 The media were awful last night, without a doubt.

00:10:07.000 It was a three-on-one pile-on.

00:10:10.000 Every element of debate was rigged against Donald Trump because they are, in fact, attempting to rig, via their influence, this election in favor of Kamala Harris.

00:10:17.000 There is no question that that is a thing that is happening.

00:10:20.000 However, the opportunities were still there for Trump to take.

00:10:24.000 And this is where you get to Trump's performance last night.

00:10:26.000 Trump did not perform well last night.

00:10:27.000 He did not do his job last night.

00:10:29.000 Donald Trump's job was to point out a few things.

00:10:33.000 Not all that many.

00:10:34.000 One, she's the current Vice President of the United States. 0.99

00:10:37.000 She's responsible for every single thing that is happening right now in the United States.

00:10:43.000 She's responsible for those things.

00:10:44.000 And this would have been a perfect time for him to do it.

00:10:48.000 Right, she's asked a question.

00:10:49.000 Are you better off than you were four years ago?

00:10:51.000 And she just rambles like a nut. 1.00

00:10:55.000 He should come back and the first thing he should say is, you know, I noticed she was asked a question.

00:10:59.000 Are you better off now than you were four years ago when I was president of the United States?

00:11:03.000 And she proceeded to tell you about her middle-class childhood and about all the plans that she apparently has not implemented as vice president for the last three and a half years.

00:11:10.000 The reason she's avoiding the question is because we all know the answer.

00:11:14.000 You aren't.

00:11:15.000 You're way worse off than you were four years ago because she's the Vice President of the United States. 1.00

00:11:21.000 Because she's the Vice President of the United States. 1.00

00:11:23.000 That's why you're worse off.

00:11:25.000 She won't answer that question.

00:11:26.000 You can ask her a thousand times and she won't answer the question because she knows the answer and I know the answer and you know the answer.

00:11:32.000 That's what Donald Trump should do.

00:11:34.000 Instead, Donald Trump gets sidetracked.

00:11:37.000 So this was the story of the night.

00:11:39.000 Kamala Harris's entire game plan was to basically like a laser pointer with a cat, point Trump at something that annoys him and bugs him and then wait for him to jump at it. 1.00

00:11:51.000 So she starts going off on his tariffs and his economic plans and all the things that he's done.

00:11:58.000 And he then responds by rambling for a while about how his tariff plans are actually quite good and all the rest of this kind of thing.

00:12:04.000 Like that is not useful.

00:12:05.000 That is not useful.

00:12:07.000 He needed to be on task last night because here's the thing.

00:12:09.000 What became apparent, what has been apparent for months at this point, the media are not going to do the job of informing the American people about Kamala Harris.

00:12:16.000 If you watched that debate last night, you came away with zero new information about Kamala Harris.

00:12:21.000 Zero.

00:12:21.000 You know no more today than you knew yesterday or the day before about Kamala Harris and her positions.

00:12:26.000 If 30 plus percent of Americans don't know enough about her positions yesterday, same number don't know much about her positions today because the moderators were totally uninterested in asking her about it. 0.98

00:12:37.000 But it was up to Trump because she's not going to make herself subject to interviews. 0.99

00:12:41.000 She is not going to elucidate her opinions.

00:12:43.000 She is not going to make clear what exactly she has changed her mind on.

00:12:47.000 And so it was up to Trump last night to just point that out over and over.

00:12:50.000 And he didn't.

00:12:51.000 And he didn't because he got distracted.

00:12:53.000 And that was the biggest problem last night for Donald Trump.

00:12:57.000 That was the biggest problem.

00:13:00.000 So, for example, You know, that clip where she's talking about how it's gonna be lies and grievances and he left us the worst economy and all this kind of stuff.

00:13:08.000 Trump got sidetracked on that, right?

00:13:10.000 He immediately went defensive.

00:13:11.000 He shouldn't have gone defensive.

00:13:12.000 He should have said, listen, you're complaining about what you were left.

00:13:15.000 What you were actually left was an economy that was in recovery from the worst pandemic in a century.

00:13:22.000 And what you have given us is a complete and utter disaster area.

00:13:25.000 The question of this election is again, extraordinarily simple.

00:13:29.000 Are you better off under your administration or mine?

00:13:33.000 We know the answer.

00:13:35.000 He could have said that over and over and over.

00:13:37.000 It was not, it didn't require memorization.

00:13:38.000 It didn't require detailed knowledge of anything.

00:13:41.000 I'm not asking Donald Trump to memorize the GDP stats.

00:13:44.000 All I'm saying is that he could have done that.

00:13:46.000 But I think somewhat understandably, He, because it was a three-on-one, because it was a pile-on, I think he felt the necessity to defend himself from all of this stuff, rather than going on offense.

00:13:58.000 And that was a mistake.

00:13:59.000 So, again, she makes all these false claims, and his immediate move is to start talking about his amazing record on the pandemic.

00:14:06.000 Now, here's the thing.

00:14:07.000 Most people don't actually think the pandemic went all that well.

00:14:09.000 Republicans don't think the pandemic went all that well in 2020.

00:14:12.000 So why is he doing this?

00:14:13.000 It is not useful.

00:14:15.000 It is not useful.

00:14:17.000 And Kamala Harris is sitting there grinning because she knows she's thrown him off the scent. 0.99

00:14:20.000 Well, Kamala's entire plan last night was to misdirect and misdirect and then get under Donald Trump's skin. 1.00

00:14:26.000 And it was a mistake for him to fall for any of that.

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00:15:25.000 What she played last night was a trick on Donald Trump.

00:15:27.000 The trick was very easy.

00:15:28.000 She got Donald Trump to talk about Donald Trump.

00:15:31.000 And that was a win for her!

00:15:32.000 Because if Donald Trump is talking about Kamala Harris, She loses.

00:15:36.000 If the country is talking about Kamala Harris, she loses.

00:15:39.000 If the country is talking about Donald Trump, she wins.

00:15:41.000 And she knows that.

00:15:42.000 And Trump fell for it last night.

00:15:43.000 And that is a mistake by him.

00:15:44.000 It certainly is.

00:15:46.000 Here is clip five was Trump talking about the economy and the pandemic.

00:15:50.000 Again, every element of this debate should have been about the current administration.

00:15:55.000 She's the sitting vice president and maybe acting president. 0.99

00:15:58.000 And you couldn't come away from that debate last night thinking that Donald Trump is the current president of the United States and she's the challenger.

00:16:04.000 Here's Trump's response to that particular bit of lying and chicanery by Kamala Harris. 0.93

00:16:10.000 We had the greatest economy.

00:16:12.000 We got hit with a pandemic.

00:16:13.000 And the pandemic was not since 1917, where 100 million people died.

00:16:18.000 Has there been anything like it?

00:16:19.000 We did a phenomenal job with the pandemic.

00:16:22.000 We handed them over a country where the economy and where the stock market was higher than it was before the pandemic came in.

00:16:30.000 Nobody's ever seen anything like it.

00:16:32.000 We made ventilators for the entire world.

00:16:35.000 We got gowns.

00:16:36.000 We got masks.

00:16:37.000 We did things that nobody thought possible.

00:16:39.000 And people give me credit for rebuilding the military, they give me credit for a lot of things, but not enough credit for the great job we did with the pandemic.

00:16:46.000 But the only jobs they got were bounce-back jobs.

00:16:49.000 These were jobs bounce-back, and it bounced back and it went to their benefit, but I was the one that created them.

00:16:55.000 Okay, so, again, that's all fine and good, except for it doesn't forward the ball.

00:17:00.000 It doesn't move the ball forward.

00:17:02.000 And it doesn't really Change the nature of the game, and the game needed to change in terms of how people viewed Kamala Harris.

00:17:08.000 Now, that's not to say that Trump didn't get his quips in.

00:17:10.000 So clip seven, she's been jabbering about her plans, and he points out that she doesn't have any plans.

00:17:17.000 Now, I will say that I think that if you watched this debate with the sound off, Kamala Harris did much worse than if you watch it with the sound on. 0.91

00:17:17.000 They're ridiculous. 0.91

00:17:25.000 Which is a rarity, because usually she's just terrible. 1.00

00:17:27.000 I mean, just vocally a problem.

00:17:30.000 And she's got the nasal sort of whiny thing going. 1.00

00:17:33.000 But last night, visually, she was making faces the whole debate.

00:17:37.000 I don't think it actually did her a lot of favors in that realm.

00:17:41.000 But here was Trump getting in a pretty good shot.

00:17:43.000 He mentions that she has released plans on her website, and here's his response.

00:17:48.000 She copied Biden's plan, and it's like four sentences, like run, spot, run.

00:17:55.000 Four sentences that are just, oh, we'll try and lower taxes.

00:17:59.000 She doesn't have a plan. 0.63

00:18:00.000 Take a look at her plan.

00:18:01.000 She doesn't have a plan. 0.63

00:18:02.000 Okay, and this is where he should add.

00:18:05.000 You don't need to know about the fake plan she's putting up on her website. 1.00

00:18:08.000 She's the vice president of the United— Again, I keep hammering this over and over and over, because that's how you win a debate in a situation like this.

00:18:15.000 What you want, if you are Donald Trump, is for the American people to come away from the debate with the following observations about Kamala Harris.

00:18:22.000 One, she is not ready for the job.

00:18:25.000 She has no idea what she's doing and she's not ready for the job.

00:18:27.000 Two, she is the sitting vice president.

00:18:29.000 She owns everything you hate about the country right now.

00:18:31.000 She owns that.

00:18:32.000 It's a changed election.

00:18:33.000 It's time to get rid of her.

00:18:35.000 And three, you have no idea what her real plans are because she doesn't know what her real plans are, but we all know that her values haven't changed.

00:18:41.000 She said it.

00:18:42.000 I didn't say it.

00:18:43.000 She said it.

00:18:43.000 And her values are far left.

00:18:45.000 Right?

00:18:46.000 Incompetent?

00:18:48.000 Owns everything that's happening, far left.

00:18:50.000 Those are the three things that people needed to come away with last night.

00:18:53.000 I'm not sure they came away with any of them, largely because the Democrats basically created, via David Muir and Lindsay Davis, an impenetrable shield around Kamala Harris, and partially because Trump got so distracted by pretty much everything.

00:19:06.000 Again, that's not to say everything that he said last night was ineffective or bad.

00:19:10.000 Again, he had some pretty funny lines.

00:19:12.000 In clip nine, Trump says, you know, she's switching all of her positions, and he's right about this.

00:19:19.000 Everything that she believed three years ago and four years ago is out the window.

00:19:24.000 She's going to my philosophy now.

00:19:25.000 In fact, I was going to send her a MAGA hat.

00:19:27.000 She's gone to my philosophy.

00:19:29.000 But if she ever got elected, she'd change it.

00:19:32.000 And it will be the end of our country.

00:19:35.000 She's a Marxist.

00:19:36.000 Everybody knows she's a Marxist.

00:19:37.000 Her father's a Marxist professor in economics, and he taught her well.

00:19:42.000 But when you look at what she's done to our country, and when you look at these millions and millions of people that are pouring into our country monthly, where it's, I believe, 21 million people, not the 15 that people say, and I think it's a lot higher than the 21, that's bigger than New York State pouring in.

00:19:59.000 Okay, so the line about the MAGA hat is right.

00:20:01.000 It requires fleshing out.

00:20:02.000 This is part of the other problem with Trump's performance last night, is that he would say the first half of the line and not explicate what he meant by the line.

00:20:09.000 What he should say is, I'm gonna send her a MAGA hat.

00:20:12.000 I, for example, had said for a year that there should be no taxes on tips.

00:20:17.000 She saw that was good policy and she immediately copied it.

00:20:20.000 I've always been in favor of fracking.

00:20:22.000 She wanted to ban fracking and now suddenly she pretends that she's in favor of fracking. 0.99

00:20:26.000 Why is she on my side of the aisle? 1.00

00:20:28.000 I'm always in favor of gun rights.

00:20:30.000 She's now saying that she doesn't want to mandatorily confiscate guns.

00:20:33.000 That's weird.

00:20:34.000 What's she doing over here? 1.00

00:20:35.000 You know, last time I looked at her, she was way the hell over there by Bernie Sanders. 1.00

00:20:38.000 And now I look and she's standing right next to me, hugging my policies.

00:20:40.000 It's very strange.

00:20:42.000 But he didn't flesh it out.

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00:22:16.000 So, for example, he says she's a Marxist.

00:22:17.000 Okay, now would be an excellent time for him to explain what he means by that.

00:22:21.000 It happens to be true, by the way.

00:22:23.000 Right, what he should say is, she's a Marxist. 0.94

00:22:25.000 How do I know she's a Marxist?

00:22:26.000 She put out a video in November 2020 in which she claimed that the job of the government is to find equal outcome for everyone.

00:22:35.000 Equal outcome, not equal opportunity, equal outcome.

00:22:38.000 That is a Marxist principle, and she is seeking to implement that across the United States.

00:22:44.000 Right, he needs to actually explain what he means by that.

00:22:45.000 Instead, he says, well, her dad was a Marxist.

00:22:47.000 Okay, well.

00:22:49.000 Okay, I mean, that's true as far as it goes, but it doesn't do a lot of the work.

00:22:53.000 It doesn't do a lot of the work.

00:22:55.000 Now, I think Trump's best moment actually was on abortion.

00:22:58.000 The problem was that here's where every time Trump started to get some momentum, the moderators stepped in and cut him off at the knees.

00:23:04.000 So, for example, he pointed out that Democrats are radical on abortion, which is true. 1.00

00:23:08.000 And he pointed out that her vice presidential pick has been in favor of abortion across the board.

00:23:14.000 This is all true.

00:23:16.000 And he says that Democrats are against things like the Born Alive Infant Protection Act.

00:23:22.000 Democrats want to make it so that if a baby is quote-unquote accidentally born during an abortion, there's a botched abortion, baby's born, they don't want to make it so there's no criminal liability that attaches to letting the baby die.

00:23:33.000 That is true.

00:23:34.000 Democrats do want that. 0.90

00:23:35.000 That is why Tim Walz opposed a Born Alive Infant Protection Act in Minnesota.

00:23:40.000 And eight babies have actually been born during botched abortions and have died on the table in Minnesota.

00:23:45.000 And so he says that.

00:23:47.000 And you know what the moderators do?

00:23:47.000 And he's right.

00:23:49.000 Because it turns out the fact-checkers are there to lie on behalf of Kamala Harris.

00:23:49.000 They lie.

00:23:53.000 Here we go.

00:23:55.000 The Democrats are radical in that.

00:23:57.000 And her vice presidential pick, which I think is a horrible pick, by the way, for our country, because he is really out of it.

00:24:05.000 But her vice presidential pick says abortion in the ninth month is absolutely fine.

00:24:10.000 He also says execution after birth.

00:24:13.000 It's execution, no longer abortion, because the baby is born is OK.

00:24:18.000 And that's not OK with me.

00:24:20.000 Hence the vote.

00:24:20.000 There is no state in this country where it is legal to kill a baby after it's born.

00:24:25.000 Madam Vice President, I want to get your response to President Trump.

00:24:28.000 Well, as I said, you're going to hear a bunch of lies.

00:24:30.000 Again, that's the game.

00:24:31.000 That's the game.

00:24:32.000 They fact-checked Trump, and it's a false fact-check.

00:24:34.000 It's a false fact-check.

00:24:36.000 Democrats want to make it so no legal liability attaches to a doctor doing exactly what Ralph Northam, again, Trump did this right.

00:24:43.000 He said Ralph Northam, the former governor of Virginia, literally said that if a baby is born alive accidentally during an abortion, you put it off to the side and you make it comfortable until you decide what to do with it.

00:24:54.000 That is a thing that Ralph Northam said. 0.90

00:24:56.000 And they lied about it because Lindsay Davis is a liar, and David Muir is a liar, and they are lying on behalf of their preferred political party. 0.88

00:25:02.000 Because I gotta tell you, the cocktail parties are amazing in New York. 0.91

00:25:04.000 It's not really about cocktail parties, it's about friend circles.

00:25:07.000 I guarantee you that for years and years and years, David Muir and Lindsay Davis have been saying to each other over coffee and to the rest of their colleagues, they've been saying, you know, if I ever get Trump in front of me, here's what I'm gonna ask him.

00:25:18.000 And if he lies, I'm gonna fact check him so hard it'll make his head spin.

00:25:22.000 They've been prepping this for years.

00:25:25.000 Our friend Cabot Phillips, who covers this stuff for the Daily Wire, who's actually at the debate, where he's in the spin room with the rest of the media, he said the media were actively cheering and guffawing during the debate.

00:25:34.000 There were like a thousand members of the media and people were actively groaning at Donald Trump saying things.

00:25:40.000 There is an entire media apparatus that is designed in order to propagandize on behalf of Kamala Harris, and they made themselves apparent last night in the room.

00:25:48.000 By the way, she lied one second later, literally lied one second later about abortion. 0.99

00:25:53.000 She said that he would sign a ban on abortion nationwide.

00:25:57.000 Not only is that not true, J.D.

00:25:59.000 Vance, who is pro-life, more pro-life than Trump is, J.D.

00:26:01.000 Vance has said that's not true.

00:26:03.000 So she's lying.

00:26:05.000 Did the moderators fact check her?

00:26:06.000 Of course not, of course not.

00:26:07.000 They're too busy massaging her shoulders.

00:26:10.000 They're too busy participating in the human centipede at the rear end.

00:26:14.000 Here we go.

00:26:16.000 If Donald Trump were to be re-elected, he will sign a national abortion ban.

00:26:20.000 Understand, in his Project 2025, there would be a national abortion monitor that would be monitoring your pregnancies, your miscarriages.

00:26:29.000 Thank you, Vice President Harris.

00:26:30.000 Well, there she goes again.

00:26:32.000 It's a lie.

00:26:33.000 He's right.

00:26:34.000 But why aren't the moderators saying that?

00:26:36.000 Where are the moderators?

00:26:37.000 Where are you?

00:26:37.000 I thought you're fact-checking.

00:26:38.000 Where are your fact-checkers?

00:26:40.000 He has said over and over and over, until the cows come home, he is not associated with Project 2025.

00:26:45.000 He has said that over and over.

00:26:48.000 Where are the fact-checkers?

00:26:49.000 He has never said he would sign a national abortion ban.

00:26:51.000 Where are the fact-checkers?

00:26:53.000 They're off in the cornfield.

00:26:55.000 No one knows.

00:26:56.000 Trump himself tried to prompt the moderators.

00:26:58.000 He was like, you know, you might want to ask her a question at some point here, like about abortion.

00:27:02.000 Is she in favor of abortion in month seven, eight, nine?

00:27:05.000 Will you ask her that question?

00:27:08.000 You should ask.

00:27:10.000 Will she allow abortion in the eighth month, ninth month, seventh month? 0.98

00:27:14.000 Come on.

00:27:15.000 Okay, would you do that?

00:27:17.000 Why don't you ask her that question?

00:27:18.000 That's the problem.

00:27:20.000 Because under Roe v. Wade, you could do abortions in the seventh month, the eighth month, the ninth month, and probably after birth. 0.88

00:27:29.000 Yes, it's true.

00:27:30.000 Yes, it's true.

00:27:31.000 But where are the fact-checkers?

00:27:32.000 Where are the fact checkers?

00:27:33.000 Okay, so, again, I think that for the first half hour of the debate, despite all the obstacles, despite everything else, I don't think Trump was doing amazing, but he was certainly holding his own.

00:27:42.000 And then we got into distractible Trump, like the really distractible Trump.

00:27:45.000 And this started with Kamala Harris playing the most obvious distraction game in the entire world, and Trump could not resist it.

00:27:52.000 It was very, very frustrating.

00:27:53.000 Listen, as you know, I'm campaigning all over the United States for Republican Senate candidates.

00:27:58.000 I've given my own money to President Trump.

00:28:00.000 I've held fundraisers for President Trump.

00:28:02.000 I want him to win.

00:28:04.000 In order for him to win, he needs to be disciplined.

00:28:07.000 This is an incredibly narrow election.

00:28:09.000 This election is within margin of error in North Carolina, Georgia, Arizona, Nevada, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan.

00:28:18.000 It is within margin of error in all seven of those states.

00:28:22.000 Which means that she doesn't need a big bum coming out of this debate. 0.74

00:28:25.000 All she needs is like a few thousand votes coming out of these debates. 1.00

00:28:28.000 And it means that he needs a few thousand votes in return.

00:28:31.000 Which means he can't simply follow his egoistic whim and get into things like crowd sizes.

00:28:39.000 You know, Trump got sidetracked a lot last night.

00:28:41.000 It was not good for him.

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00:29:42.000 My friend Matt Walsh last night was pointing this out.

00:29:44.000 He said this is the turning point of the day.

00:29:45.000 I thought it was a great observation and it's true.

00:29:47.000 So, clip 14.

00:29:48.000 Kamala Harris decides that she is going to just attack him about his rallies. 0.99

00:29:52.000 And for whatever reason, this has become a weird sore spot with Trump.

00:29:56.000 He should be pretty confident about his rallies.

00:29:58.000 His rallies are packed.

00:29:59.000 People love him.

00:30:01.000 That is what it is.

00:30:03.000 But he can't stop himself.

00:30:04.000 He can't stop himself.

00:30:05.000 And his actual affect in the debate changed.

00:30:07.000 She attacked him about his rallies, and now he's pissed.

00:30:11.000 Now he's really pissed.

00:30:12.000 Sort of like how in the first debate with Joe Biden, he wasn't really upset the entire debate until Joe Biden started claiming that he was a scratch golfer, and that really got under Trump's skin.

00:30:21.000 She dropped this just to get under his skin.

00:30:24.000 This is itching powder to Trump.

00:30:25.000 She dropped it specifically to annoy him, and it worked.

00:30:29.000 And that's a failure by Trump.

00:30:30.000 It is.

00:30:31.000 You cannot be distracted by this sort of stuff. 0.99

00:30:33.000 Here was Kamala Harris saying a dumb thing. 1.00

00:30:35.000 You know what his response should have been? 0.98

00:30:36.000 It should have been, what do you care about my rallies?

00:30:38.000 Why are you concerned about my rallies?

00:30:39.000 I'm concerned about the American people.

00:30:41.000 People come to my rallies because they want to hear what I have to say.

00:30:44.000 I assume people go to your rallies because they want to hear what you have to say.

00:30:46.000 And also because they want to hear like Taylor Swift or something. 0.99

00:30:48.000 But the American people don't like your policies because they suck. 0.99

00:30:52.000 because you're bad at being vice president. 1.00

00:30:54.000 Right, that.

00:30:55.000 You just have to keep bringing it back, keep bringing it back,

00:30:58.000 bringing it back to the policy and he wouldn't do it.

00:31:00.000 Instead, he just chases that, what, like, again, just squirrel

00:31:03.000 and just races off after, after whatever the distraction is.

00:31:06.000 And that's a failure.

00:31:07.000 Here's clip 14 where the, where this started to go really off the rails.

00:31:09.000 I'm going to invite you to attend one of Donald Trump's rallies

00:31:14.000 because it's a really interesting thing to watch.

00:31:17.000 You will see during the course of his rallies, he talks about fictional characters like Hannibal Lecter.

00:31:23.000 He will talk about when mills cause cancer.

00:31:26.000 And what you will also notice is that people start leaving his rallies early out of exhaustion and boredom.

00:31:32.000 And I will tell you, the one thing you will not hear him talk about is you.

00:31:36.000 People don't go to her rallies.

00:31:37.000 There's no reason to go.

00:31:39.000 And the people that do go, she's bussing them in and paying them to be there. 0.95

00:31:42.000 What they have done to our country by allowing these millions and millions of people to come into our country and look at what's happening to the towns all over the United States. 0.97

00:31:52.000 And a lot of towns don't want to talk.

00:31:53.000 It's not going to be Aurora or Springfield.

00:31:56.000 A lot of towns don't want to talk about it because they're so embarrassed by it.

00:31:59.000 In Springfield, They're eating the dogs, the people that came in.

00:32:04.000 They're eating the cats.

00:32:05.000 They're eating... They're eating the pets of the people that live there.

00:32:11.000 There have been no credible reports of specific claims of pets being harmed, injured, or abused by individuals within the immigrant community.

00:32:18.000 Blashing people on television.

00:32:19.000 Let me just say here... The people on television say my dog was taken.

00:32:22.000 Springfield City Manager says there's no evidence of that.

00:32:24.000 Vice President Harris, I'll let you respond to the rest of what you've heard.

00:32:28.000 You talk about extreme.

00:32:30.000 She's awful. 0.99

00:32:31.000 She's awful. 0.88

00:32:32.000 I mean, that laugh comes out and you're like, oh no, oh no, but, but, she got under his skin.

00:32:36.000 So he starts going off about the rallies, and then he starts actually saying that this is one of the problems.

00:32:42.000 The people around President Trump, I don't know who's giving access to the very online Giving Trump access to those people or giving those people access to Trump?

00:32:50.000 I don't know who's doing that. 0.92

00:32:52.000 It's ridiculous and it needs to stop. 0.79

00:32:54.000 The very online crowd is going to lose in this election. 0.94

00:32:56.000 The people who are super in love with the memery, the people who think that this election is going to be won or lost based on whether a Haitian migrant is carrying a goose in Springfield, Ohio, those people need to be far away from President Trump.

00:33:09.000 They do.

00:33:10.000 I mean, that's just a reality because he's up there and he's repeating stuff about cats and dogs being eaten.

00:33:15.000 And there's controversy about whether that's happening.

00:33:18.000 Again, it is true that the Springfield city manager has said that that is not happening.

00:33:22.000 But again, as J.D.

00:33:23.000 Vance has said, the vice presidential candidate, who's quite good at this, he has said, it doesn't really matter whether that's the case.

00:33:28.000 The case is that you flooded a town of 60,000 people with 20,000 Haitian immigrants. 0.51

00:33:32.000 And that has some pretty dire ramifications for both the social fabric and for the social services in that particular town.

00:33:39.000 But Trump can't do that.

00:33:41.000 So, again, there are three stories here.

00:33:44.000 The first story is about the media.

00:33:45.000 That really is the big story.

00:33:46.000 Because they allowed Kamala Harris to get away with it last night. 1.00

00:33:49.000 It is a rigged process.

00:33:50.000 Rigged, rigged, and rigged.

00:33:52.000 And the second story is about Kamala Harris, who evaded all blows.

00:33:55.000 And what that comes down to is both the media defending her, She was well prepared.

00:34:00.000 And it comes down to President Trump not laying a glove on her all night.

00:34:03.000 He really did.

00:34:03.000 Because in order to lay a glove on somebody, it's not enough to throw occasional jabs amid sort of wild wheeling.

00:34:09.000 You have to meticulously pick things apart.

00:34:11.000 You have to hit the jab over and over and over and over.

00:34:13.000 You have to jab and then jab again.

00:34:15.000 It has to be short.

00:34:16.000 It has to be concise.

00:34:18.000 It has to be punchy.

00:34:19.000 Which is a thing that Donald Trump used to be able to do really well and I think still can again in the right circumstances.

00:34:25.000 But yeah, it was very difficult to sit and watch this thing happen.

00:34:31.000 It was very difficult.

00:34:32.000 So even when Trump was getting in points, it was sort of amid a litany of other points.

00:34:38.000 And so it sort of got lost in translation.

00:34:40.000 It started to sound like the Charlie Brown teacher.

00:34:43.000 That was the problem for President Trump last night.

00:34:46.000 Beyond all of the rigging.

00:34:48.000 And again, you can't blame Trump for all of that because it's very difficult to walk into a circumstance where it's one on three.

00:34:54.000 I've been in those circumstances.

00:34:55.000 It's not easy.

00:34:55.000 It's not fun.

00:34:58.000 With that said, was this a win for Donald Trump last night?

00:35:01.000 Obviously not.

00:35:02.000 Which was the purpose.

00:35:03.000 That's why they rigged it this way.

00:35:05.000 In just one second.

00:35:06.000 We'll get to more of this.

00:35:07.000 We'll get to the media attacking Donald Trump on January 6th.

00:35:10.000 And again, Trump chasing the rabbits.

00:35:12.000 And then we'll get to the actual impact of this, which again, I think that you're going to get, the vibes machine is going to ramp back up for Kamala Harris. 0.76

00:35:18.000 I'm not sure how long that can last.

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00:35:54.000 Now, again, this combination of the moderators doing Kamala Harris's work for her and Donald Trump being distracted by the fact that he was being attacked made for a pretty bad combination for Trump, particularly the last half of the night.

00:36:06.000 So, for example, David Muir, of course, has been waiting years to do this.

00:36:10.000 He wanted to ask Donald Trump about January 6th.

00:36:11.000 Of course, of course, of course.

00:36:13.000 Now, you'll remember in the first debate, Donald Trump actually was asked about January 6th when he was facing off with Joe Biden.

00:36:18.000 And you will remember that Donald Trump said people care a lot less about January 6th than they do about, you know, how they're doing right now.

00:36:25.000 Like, Joe Biden's been the president.

00:36:27.000 They care about what they're doing right now.

00:36:27.000 And you could have given the same answer here, right?

00:36:29.000 The question was, you said you were going to march to the Capitol, and AIDS said you would watch it unfold.

00:36:33.000 Say, listen, we can have a debate over what I said or did on January 6th.

00:36:37.000 I obviously have a perception.

00:36:38.000 I said that they should peacefully and patriotically march to the Capitol.

00:36:41.000 I was not in favor of rioting and violence, as I made clear throughout the day.

00:36:45.000 But that's not the issue in this election campaign.

00:36:47.000 The issue in this election campaign is, do you want her to be the President of the United States, right? 0.97

00:36:51.000 He needs to get back to that.

00:36:52.000 But, because he was being assaulted from all sides, and because he's distractible, he decided to just keep going on this.

00:36:58.000 Like, going and going and going on this.

00:37:01.000 And the media were—Muir and Davis were more than happy to watch him spin out over this, just spin his wheels.

00:37:06.000 Kamala Harris, too.

00:37:07.000 If you're reaching out to independent voters, do you want multiple minutes on Ashley Babbitt?

00:37:12.000 I mean, it's terrible that Ashley Babbitt was shot.

00:37:14.000 She shouldn't have been in the Capitol building in the first place.

00:37:16.000 There's disputed circumstances, all sorts of problems there.

00:37:18.000 But is that what this election is going to be about if Trump is to win?

00:37:22.000 That's the question.

00:37:24.000 The question is one of efficacy.

00:37:25.000 So here is this exchange.

00:37:28.000 On January 6th, you told your supporters to march to the Capitol.

00:37:31.000 You said you would be right there with them.

00:37:33.000 The country and the world saw what played out at the Capitol that day, the officers coming under attack.

00:37:38.000 Aides in the West Wing say you watched it unfold on television off the Oval Office.

00:37:42.000 You did send out tweets, but it was more than two hours before you sent out that video message telling your supporters to go home.

00:37:48.000 Is there anything you regret about what you did on that day?

00:37:52.000 You just said a thing that isn't covered.

00:37:55.000 Peacefully and patriotically, I said during my speech, not later on.

00:38:00.000 Peacefully and patriotically.

00:38:03.000 And nobody on the other side was killed.

00:38:06.000 Ashley Babbitt was shot by an out-of-control police officer that should have never, ever shot her.

00:38:13.000 It's a disgrace.

00:38:14.000 But we didn't do this group of people that have been treated so badly.

00:38:19.000 I ask, What about all the people that are pouring into our country and killing people that she allowed to pour in? 1.00

00:38:24.000 She was the Bordezar, remember that.

00:38:26.000 She was the Bordezar.

00:38:28.000 She doesn't want to be called the Bordezar because she's embarrassed by the Bordezar.

00:38:31.000 In fact, she said at the beginning, oh, I'm surprised you're not talking about the Bordezar yet.

00:38:35.000 That's because she knows what a bad job they've done.

00:38:37.000 I wasn't responsible for security.

00:38:39.000 Nancy Pelosi was responsible.

00:38:42.000 She didn't do her job.

00:38:43.000 Again, getting into the details of security arrangements on January 6th is not the winning strategy right here.

00:38:48.000 But again, she was aided all night long by the media.

00:38:50.000 We said she wasn't fact-checked at all.

00:38:51.000 The single most egregious example of this.

00:38:54.000 She started dumping lie after lie after lie.

00:38:57.000 This is where she's mannered. 0.88

00:38:58.000 Like, everyone's pretending that she was amazing last night.

00:38:59.000 She wasn't amazing. 0.85

00:39:00.000 She's the best Kamala Harris can be, which is to say, mannered, practiced, wildly inauthentic.

00:39:07.000 Totally, totally incapable of expressing genuine human emotion.

00:39:11.000 I know they're trying to pretend that she's like a big hugger and she's super authentic and she's relatable.

00:39:15.000 She's not any of those things.

00:39:16.000 She's the most air stance candidate in modern American history. 1.00

00:39:20.000 She is as fake as a $3 bill. 1.00

00:39:21.000 She is truly fake. 1.00

00:39:25.000 So she just lies here over and over. 0.84

00:39:26.000 Where are the fact-checkers?

00:39:27.000 Did they disappear?

00:39:29.000 They're gone.

00:39:30.000 Here she's about to deliver a multiplicity of lies, one after another.

00:39:34.000 No fact-check, nothing, nothing.

00:39:35.000 They just let it sit there. 0.99

00:39:37.000 This is where, again, the moderators, my goodness, if there were a professional guild that actually were in charge of moderating debates, these people would be out on their asses. 0.91

00:39:45.000 But, of course, there isn't, and so they will be fetid and celebrated by the mainstream media as having done a wonderful job. 0.97

00:39:51.000 Here's Kamala Harris lying over and over and over and over and over again. 0.96

00:39:55.000 What did the president then at the time say?

00:39:58.000 There were fine people on each side.

00:40:00.000 No, it's been debunked.

00:40:01.000 Let's remember that when it came to the Proud Boys, a militia, the president said, the former president said, stand back and stand by.

00:40:11.000 Donald Trump, the candidate, has said in this election there will be a bloodbath.

00:40:16.000 That's the biggest lie, economic bloodbath, if she wins. 1.00

00:40:18.000 The outcome of this election is not to his liking.

00:40:20.000 Okay, that's three lies in a row.

00:40:22.000 Zero fact checks.

00:40:23.000 None.

00:40:23.000 Zip.

00:40:24.000 So you can understand why Trump was losing.

00:40:25.000 It's cool.

00:40:26.000 You can understand why they were under his skin, for sure. 0.96

00:40:28.000 And again, it was the questioning.

00:40:30.000 So, clip 23.

00:40:31.000 David Mirror, he asks what I thought was the most egregious question of the night.

00:40:35.000 He turns to her and he asks her, how bad is Donald Trump?

00:40:40.000 This is an insane question. 0.98

00:40:42.000 This question is nuts.

00:40:43.000 You would imagine that if he's going to ask about Donald Trump's prior terrible comments, he would ask Donald Trump about it.

00:40:49.000 That's what you do in a debate.

00:40:50.000 If you're a moderator, you ask a tough question to the candidate about whom you are speaking.

00:40:55.000 Instead, David Muir goes, Donald Trump has said that he's going to prosecute all of his enemies.

00:41:00.000 Kamala Harris, just how evil is Donald Trump?

00:41:04.000 He said, when I win, those people who cheated, and then he lists donors, voters, election officials, he says will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, which will include long-term prison sentences.

00:41:15.000 One of your campaign's top lawyers responded saying, we won't let Donald Trump intimidate us, we won't let him suppress the vote.

00:41:22.000 Is that what you believe he's trying to do here?

00:41:24.000 What the, how is that a question?

00:41:25.000 Donald Trump was fired by 81 million people.

00:41:28.000 World leaders are laughing at Donald Trump.

00:41:31.000 I have talked with military leaders, some of whom worked with you.

00:41:34.000 She's so irritating. 1.00

00:41:35.000 And they say you're a disgrace.

00:41:37.000 Perhaps we do not have in the candidate to my right the temperament or the ability to not be confused about fact. 0.95

00:41:47.000 I mean, she's awful, but that question is such a setup.

00:41:50.000 It's such a setup. 0.95

00:41:51.000 So, Kamala, Donald Trump, puppies.

00:41:55.000 Do you think that makes him, you know, the worst person in the world or even worse than the worst person in the world? 0.78

00:42:00.000 On a level, on a scale, Ms.

00:42:02.000 Vice President, on a scale of Stalin to Hitler, Where does Donald Trump lie?

00:42:08.000 Is it like below Stalin but above Hitler? 0.76

00:42:11.000 Or above Hitler and also above Stalin? 0.53

00:42:14.000 Like where?

00:42:15.000 I mean, these questions are an absurdity.

00:42:17.000 They're an absurdity.

00:42:18.000 And by the way, no serious follow-ups.

00:42:21.000 So, I'll show you the no serious follow-ups game.

00:42:24.000 This was the moment where Donald Trump should have put her through a wall.

00:42:24.000 Clip 32.

00:42:28.000 There are many moments in this debate that are very frustrating.

00:42:30.000 As a professional, you know, debate watcher, as a person who does this for a living and has watched every major presidential debate for the last 25 years or whatever, You can tell when there are openings.

00:42:40.000 There are a lot of openings here for Donald Trump to have clocked her.

00:42:42.000 But again, I think that Trump was so distracted by all the attacks on him and fighting off a three-to-one vantage that I think that that threw him.

00:42:50.000 This was the moment where Trump should have put her through a wall.

00:42:54.000 Truly.

00:42:55.000 Clip 32.

00:42:56.000 The only question Meir asked Almighty that was really kind of, should have been tough for Kamala.

00:43:01.000 And she avoids it like the plague.

00:43:02.000 No follow-ups.

00:43:03.000 You'll see.

00:43:06.000 Do you believe you bear any responsibility in the way that withdrawal played out?

00:43:11.000 Well, I will tell you, I agreed with President Biden's decision to pull out of Afghanistan.

00:43:16.000 And as of today, there is not one member of the United States military who is in active duty in a combat zone in any war zone around the world the first time this century.

00:43:28.000 But let's understand how we got to where we are.

00:43:32.000 Donald Trump, when he was president, negotiated one of the weakest deals you can imagine.

00:43:37.000 He calls himself a dealmaker.

00:43:39.000 Even his national security adviser said it was a weak, terrible deal.

00:43:44.000 And here's how it went down.

00:43:46.000 He bypassed the Afghan government.

00:43:49.000 He negotiated directly with a terrorist organization called the Taliban.

00:43:53.000 The negotiation involved the Taliban getting 5,000 terrorists, Taliban terrorists, released.

00:43:59.000 And get this.

00:44:00.000 No, get this.

00:44:02.000 And the president at the time invited the Taliban to Camp David.

00:44:07.000 President Trump, your response to her saying that you began the negotiations with the Taliban?

00:44:11.000 Yeah, thank you.

00:44:11.000 I got involved with the Taliban.

00:44:13.000 OK, let me stop right there.

00:44:14.000 OK, so I want to show you this game.

00:44:16.000 This is like, I think, the most crucial area of the debate.

00:44:19.000 This particular exchange is the absolutely crucial.

00:44:22.000 If there is a crucial area, we'll get to that in a second as to what the impact of the debate is, because I think the kind of answer to the impact of the debate is not much.

00:44:29.000 Once it's all out in the wash, I don't think that it's going to mean all that much, but this was, in many ways, the crucial area of the debate.

00:44:38.000 Okay, why?

00:44:39.000 Let me go through the transcript right here to make sure that I hit all the points because there's a lot here.

00:44:42.000 Okay, one, she asks, she is asked, do you bear any responsibility in the way the withdrawal played out?

00:44:51.000 And her immediate answer is, I was there and it was great.

00:44:56.000 Trump's answer should start with, Madam Vice President, you were just asked whether you bear any responsibility for the way the withdrawal played out.

00:45:03.000 And you said you agreed with the decision making, which means you own that disaster.

00:45:09.000 You own the billions of dollars in American military equipment left to the Taliban. 0.87

00:45:13.000 You own the fact that the Taliban took over the country while you and your president lied blatantly to the American people.

00:45:20.000 You own the people falling from the wheel wells.

00:45:22.000 You own the 13 dead American soldiers whose families you didn't even contact and then you slandered me for having gone to Arlington National Cemetery at their behest.

00:45:30.000 You own the fact that there are 19 million Afghan women living in slavery and servitude.

00:45:36.000 You own all, you pretend you care about women, you'll give up. 0.99

00:45:38.000 damn about women, you are perfectly happy to watch them stuffed into bags in the basement, 1.00

00:45:42.000 not going to school at the age of 11, and forcibly married to men three times their 1.00

00:45:46.000 age because you wanted your headline victory. This is on you and you have no regrets. You

00:45:51.000 have none. Don't give me your empathy. You don't have empathy. All you care about is you.

00:45:55.000 Okay, that is what Trump's answer should have been to the first point where she blatantly 0.99

00:46:00.000 acknowledges that she has no regrets, no regrets whatsoever about what happened in Afghanistan.

00:46:05.000 Okay, then she says that there is not one member of the United States military in active duty in a combat zone, in any war zone.

00:46:12.000 That also is a lie.

00:46:14.000 You should be saying, the only reason that you can say that, Madam Vice President, is because you're ignoring dead Americans.

00:46:18.000 Again, Americans have died this year. 0.97

00:46:21.000 In the Red Sea, attempting to stop the Houthis.

00:46:25.000 Americans are in combat zones right now.

00:46:27.000 We have ships in the Mediterranean off the coast of Lebanon.

00:46:30.000 There are Americans in war zones.

00:46:31.000 We just did an operation against ISIS.

00:46:33.000 You don't care about any of those people.

00:46:35.000 You're willing to watch them die for your own personal political gain.

00:46:39.000 That's point number two.

00:46:40.000 And then she starts with the, you negotiated a bad deal with the Taliban.

00:46:43.000 Again, this was her throwing the red herring out there.

00:46:46.000 And he falls for it.

00:46:47.000 And David Muir helps. 0.99

00:46:48.000 David Muir is so gross. 0.99

00:46:50.000 So gross. 0.97

00:46:51.000 Because the follow-up here should be, so Madam Vice President, again, the question was, do you bear responsibility for Afghanistan?

00:46:56.000 Do you have any regrets?

00:46:58.000 You didn't answer it, do you?

00:46:59.000 He didn't do that.

00:47:00.000 Instead, he turns to Trump, and he doesn't even ask Trump to respond to her.

00:47:04.000 He asks Trump to respond to his deal with the Taliban, which is utterly irrelevant, because when she and her boss took over, they were then the people in charge of what happened in Afghanistan.

00:47:15.000 So Muir deliberately points him at another issue.

00:47:18.000 And Trump, because he's distracted, and because he's distractible, doesn't ignore the question and go right at Kamala Harris. 0.81

00:47:24.000 Okay, another thing she says in here, which is insane, insane. 1.00

00:47:27.000 She says, you know what a terrible deal maker. 0.78

00:47:29.000 You negotiated with terrorists.

00:47:31.000 She is actively negotiating with Hamas right now.

00:47:35.000 She and her boss put an arms embargo on the state of Israel in the middle of a terrorist cell holding Americans hostage. 0.94

00:47:44.000 Head.

00:47:45.000 And she's in negotiation with terrorists. 1.00

00:47:48.000 That's what Trump should have said.

00:47:49.000 Donald Trump was taking on Kamala Harris, and that is a lady who does not believe in the American dream in any real way. 1.00

00:47:54.000 But you do, dudes.

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00:48:17.000 It's available right now But it's not even about that.

00:48:23.000 What it really is about is the fact that she was allowed to skate on all of this.

00:48:27.000 And David Muir, David Muir, again, the transcript says, That's not how you do a response question.

00:48:30.000 President Trump, your response to her saying, you began the negotiations with the Taliban.

00:48:30.000 Thank you.

00:48:34.000 That's not how you do a response question.

00:48:36.000 You say, President Trump, your response.

00:48:39.000 He literally frames the part he wants Trump to talk about.

00:48:43.000 Ignore the fact that she just lied about Americans in combat zones, dying in combat zones.

00:48:47.000 Ignore everything she has said about her own record in Afghanistan.

00:48:51.000 Ignore the fact that she says now it's suddenly bad to talk with terrorists when she is actively negotiating with people who are terrorists and kowtowing to all of their supporters in Gilmore, Michigan.

00:49:03.000 David Muir wants you to talk about what you did at Camp David.

00:49:06.000 That's the really, really important thing.

00:49:09.000 Again, it's the missed opportunity.

00:49:11.000 The missed opportunity is what this is all gonna be about.

00:49:13.000 Now, again, another key exchange, Clip 34.

00:49:19.000 So Trump finally gets to the point, okay?

00:49:20.000 Very late in the debate, like very super late in the debate.

00:49:23.000 There were a couple moments where Trump hit the thing.

00:49:25.000 But again, because it's buried in 90 minutes of mayonnaise, it's very difficult to actually taste the product.

00:49:30.000 So Trump points out, you are Biden.

00:49:33.000 We've had bad inflation.

00:49:34.000 You are responsible for that.

00:49:36.000 And then she attempts something.

00:49:38.000 And this is, again, where he should put her through a wall.

00:49:40.000 Clip 34.

00:49:42.000 She is Biden.

00:49:43.000 You know, she's trying to get away from Biden. 1.00

00:49:45.000 I don't know the gentleman, she says.

00:49:47.000 She is Biden.

00:49:48.000 The worst inflation we've ever had.

00:49:51.000 A horrible economy because inflation has made it so bad that she can't get away with that. 0.50

00:49:57.000 Clearly, I am not Joe Biden and I am certainly not Donald Trump.

00:50:03.000 And what I do offer is a new generation of leadership for our country.

00:50:07.000 One who believes in what is possible.

00:50:11.000 One who brings a sense of optimism.

00:50:13.000 His vibe's down, man!

00:50:14.000 About what we can do instead of always disparaging the American people.

00:50:19.000 Disparaging the American people. 0.97

00:50:20.000 She spends all night saying that he's a disgrace. 0.95

00:50:22.000 But he's the one who's mean and disparaging. 0.56

00:50:25.000 Again, the comeback here should be, you can say you're not Joe Biden.

00:50:28.000 Why isn't he on the stage?

00:50:30.000 Where is he, by the way?

00:50:31.000 I noticed you say you're not Joe Biden.

00:50:33.000 The only reason you're on the stage is because he handed you the nomination.

00:50:36.000 The only reason you're here is because he made you the vice president.

00:50:38.000 The only reason you're here is because you have presided over the worst inflation in modern American history.

00:50:44.000 It's because you were the last person in the room on Afghanistan.

00:50:47.000 It's because you were the deciding vote on the Inflation Reduction Act that increased inflation.

00:50:52.000 That's why you're here.

00:50:53.000 You say you're not Joe Biden.

00:50:55.000 The reality is you're stapled to him at the hip.

00:50:57.000 He says it.

00:50:58.000 You've said it.

00:51:00.000 By the way, you still lying about his health condition?

00:51:02.000 Like, what's the story with that?

00:51:05.000 The final thing that Trump said was actually the best thing he said all night.

00:51:07.000 The final thing that Trump said, his closing statement, was the best thing he said all night, bar none.

00:51:11.000 And I wish he had opened with this.

00:51:13.000 I wish like hell he had opened with this.

00:51:15.000 Here was his closing statement.

00:51:17.000 So she just started by saying she's gonna do this, she's gonna do that, she's gonna do all these wonderful things.

00:51:23.000 Why hasn't she done it?

00:51:25.000 She's been there for three and a half years.

00:51:27.000 They've had three and a half years to fix the border.

00:51:31.000 They've had three and a half years to Create jobs and all the things we talked about.

00:51:36.000 Why hasn't she done it?

00:51:38.000 She should leave right now, go down to that beautiful White House, go to the Capitol, get everyone together and do the things you want to do, but you haven't done it and you won't do it.

00:51:48.000 Hey, I wish she'd open with that.

00:51:49.000 Can you imagine if this debate had started with him saying that?

00:51:52.000 That would have been great.

00:51:53.000 Okay, so bottom line is, again, The media have clowned themselves at a historic level, unseen by human eyes up to this point.

00:51:53.000 That would have been great.

00:51:59.000 They made Kandi Crowley look as though she was an honest interlocutor during that debate with Mitt Romney and Barack Obama back in 2012. 0.81

00:52:06.000 It's the media are absolutely the number one story.

00:52:09.000 The number two story is Kamala Harris was able to perform as well as Kamala Harris can perform, meaning she didn't really get dinged. 1.00

00:52:15.000 She had all the help in the world.

00:52:17.000 She had her emotional support pets over there behind the moderator's desk, and they were able to spoon feed her all the easy questions.

00:52:23.000 And when they asked her a somewhat difficult question, let her get away with it.

00:52:26.000 And so she was able to kind of do the hope-y, joy-y, vibe-y thing all night long without getting into the details of her policy.

00:52:32.000 And for Donald Trump, is he worse for the wear?

00:52:35.000 He's always the same as he was.

00:52:35.000 Not really.

00:52:37.000 He's always the same, Donald Trump.

00:52:38.000 It's just a missed opportunity.

00:52:40.000 And in a very close election, you can't keep missing opportunities.

00:52:43.000 And I said, way back by the RNC, when Donald Trump picked J.D.

00:52:46.000 Vance, who I, again, I think J.D.

00:52:48.000 is incredibly intelligent, I think he's unbelievably articulate, I also think that J.D.

00:52:52.000 doesn't win you additional votes in the Midwest, and I don't think that he wins you additional votes in the suburbs.

00:52:57.000 I said that it was a missed opportunity.

00:52:59.000 He should have picked Glenn Youngkin, but he picked J.D.

00:53:00.000 Vance.

00:53:01.000 It's a missed opportunity.

00:53:01.000 That's fine.

00:53:02.000 When Donald Trump gave his 93-minute speech at the RNC, and the first half an hour was great, and then it just kept going.

00:53:09.000 Forever.

00:53:10.000 Like, almost forever.

00:53:12.000 I said, what do I feel like after the RNC?

00:53:15.000 I said, I feel like this is the sixth inning and I'm watching the team I'm rooting for up three runs in the sixth.

00:53:21.000 And I feel like they just left the bases loaded with no outs without getting a run.

00:53:25.000 That's what I feel like.

00:53:27.000 And if you keep missing opportunities, then they start to pile up.

00:53:31.000 There aren't that many opportunities left.

00:53:32.000 There's like two months left of this campaign.

00:53:35.000 Donald Trump and his campaign need to be meticulous.

00:53:37.000 Yes, he's facing entrenched obstacles.

00:53:38.000 Yes, he's facing a media that is rigging this thing against him.

00:53:41.000 100% that's true.

00:53:43.000 100% that's true.

00:53:44.000 Yes, the machine has been activated against him and against J.D.

00:53:47.000 and against the rest of the Republican Party.

00:53:49.000 That is 100% true.

00:53:50.000 Also, the job of the presidential candidate is to win.

00:53:54.000 He can still win.

00:53:55.000 This election is tight as a tick.

00:53:57.000 So naturally, the media were celebratory over the debate.

00:54:00.000 Daniel Dale, who again, they take out of storage every so often just to fact check Trump.

00:54:04.000 He gave what I thought was the most ridiculously dishonest fact check summation maybe I've ever seen.

00:54:11.000 He said that Donald Trump lied 33 plus times last night, but Kamala Harris lied once.

00:54:16.000 And if you believe that, I have a bridge in Brooklyn that is for sale.

00:54:16.000 Once.

00:54:21.000 CNN senior reporter Daniel Dale was listening closely to both candidates.

00:54:24.000 Daniel, what stood out to you?

00:54:26.000 Jake, what stood out was that this was a staggeringly dishonest debate performance from former President Trump.

00:54:31.000 Just lie after lie on subject after subject.

00:54:34.000 By my preliminary count, Jake, Trump made at least 33 false claims.

00:54:40.000 By contrast, by, again, a preliminary count, Vice President Harris made at least one false claim.

00:54:45.000 That's absurd.

00:54:47.000 Just in this show, I've listed off at least a dozen lies that Kamala Harris told last night, ranging from the fine people on both sides hoax to the idea that she never backed mandatory gun buybacks.

00:54:57.000 I mean, she's lying all to the fact that he backed Project 2025.

00:55:00.000 A lie.

00:55:01.000 The idea that he was going to sign into law some sort of nationwide abortion ban.

00:55:05.000 A lie.

00:55:06.000 The idea that there are not Americans in combat zones, a lie, right?

00:55:09.000 Just lying, all night long lying, Kamala Harris.

00:55:12.000 You got Daniel Dale pretending that ain't the case.

00:55:14.000 Now, I do think the American people are smart enough to see through a lot of all of this.

00:55:20.000 I think that the American people can see that the media rigged this thing on behalf of Kamala Harris.

00:55:26.000 And Donald Trump's response to the debate was this, here he was today.

00:55:31.000 Mr. President, how do you feel about the night?

00:55:34.000 105 minutes long.

00:55:35.000 You've done this before.

00:55:36.000 I think it's your eighth one.

00:55:38.000 What is your review of your performance?

00:55:40.000 Well, I looked at the poll numbers.

00:55:42.000 I listened to Harold Ford.

00:55:43.000 I don't know what he was watching, because I think he wasn't watching the debate that I was in yesterday.

00:55:49.000 I think we did great.

00:55:50.000 It was 3-1.

00:55:51.000 It was a rigged deal, as I assumed it would be, because when you looked at the fact that they were correcting everything and not correcting with her, and we knew it when it was 100% good coverage for her over the last month or last year, I looked at it and Only bad coverage of me, no matter what.

00:56:12.000 The press is so dishonest in this country, it's amazing.

00:56:16.000 Now, I didn't mind, because frankly, I knew, I was pretty sure that's what they would do.

00:56:21.000 CNN was much more honorable.

00:56:23.000 The debate we had with Biden was a much more honorably run debate, but this was incredible.

00:56:29.000 I mean, everything, so many things I said were debunked, totally debunked, like Charlottesville.

00:56:36.000 I could have a list of seven different things, and she could say anything she wanted.

00:56:41.000 Everything, every time I spoke and my stuff was right, they'd correct you.

00:56:46.000 I thought it was terrible from the standpoint of ABC.

00:56:50.000 They're the most dishonest, in my opinion, the most dishonest news organization.

00:56:54.000 And that's saying a lot because they're all essentially really dishonest.

00:56:59.000 But I thought I did a great job.

00:57:01.000 That is, again, whether you did a great job or not, what he's saying about the bias of the moderators, that is absolutely true.

00:57:08.000 Now, there is a big problem for Kamala Harris. 0.99

00:57:09.000 Okay, there is.

00:57:11.000 She did not actually quiet anybody about her own policies.

00:57:15.000 She, I think, quieted some concerns about her lack of coherence.

00:57:18.000 Right?

00:57:19.000 Because she wasn't totally incoherent last night.

00:57:20.000 Yeah, there was a lot of word salad.

00:57:22.000 Yeah, there was a bunch of sloganeering.

00:57:24.000 But, she didn't fall over herself.

00:57:26.000 She didn't turn into cackling Kamala. 0.93

00:57:27.000 She didn't do any of those things. 1.00

00:57:29.000 And so, from that perspective, it's a win.

00:57:31.000 But, for the 30% of Americans who are still kind of concerned about the fact that she has bad policies, Well, I mean, it kind of turns out that those policies are still really bad.

00:57:41.000 ABC's Elizabeth Schultz pointed out she didn't answer, like, any of the questions, any of them.

00:57:45.000 And this was the signal failure of Murren Davis.

00:57:48.000 Didn't even bother to ask her any follow-ups.

00:57:50.000 Vice President Harris was asked if she believes Americans are better off now than they were four years ago.

00:57:55.000 And frankly, as you pointed out, she didn't answer the question.

00:57:58.000 She instead pivoted to talk about, in broad brushstrokes, some of the policies that she's highlighting.

00:58:04.000 Yeah, okay, so, you know, that is correct.

00:58:07.000 She didn't answer any of those questions.

00:58:09.000 And that's why it's interesting.

00:58:10.000 Look at the polling data.

00:58:11.000 The polling data says that Trump lost the debate, right?

00:58:13.000 The snap polls say that Trump lost 2 to 1.

00:58:16.000 Now, how much of an immediate reaction is that going to have?

00:58:19.000 I think the answer is kind of not much.

00:58:20.000 So that same CNN...

00:58:22.000 poll that said, you know, you viewed the debate, who do you think won?

00:58:26.000 And people in that CNN poll by like a 63, 37% margin said that Kamala Harris won.

00:58:32.000 That same poll showed that before the debate, Donald Trump was winning on who would better handle the economy, 53 to 37.

00:58:40.000 After the debate, he was winning 55 to 35.

00:58:43.000 So she has not quieted any of the fears about her as an actual candidate.

00:58:47.000 She has not calmed any of that down, which is a major problem for her.

00:58:51.000 And it's going to continue to be a problem.

00:58:53.000 Now, what is she going to get out of the debate?

00:58:54.000 She's going to get a bunch of vibes.

00:58:55.000 She's going to get the vibes.

00:58:56.000 There will be some gas in the tank.

00:58:57.000 She'll get a big fundraising boost.

00:58:58.000 Her enthusiasm among her base is going to be a lot higher.

00:59:01.000 All of that's quite real.

00:59:03.000 She might get a couple points of bump in the polls, right?

00:59:06.000 She might jump back up to like a 49-47 lead as opposed to being down 48-47 or something like that. 0.75

00:59:11.000 It's all going to remain within margin of error because this is a very, very tight election.

00:59:15.000 And then it'll run out.

00:59:16.000 And by next week, We won't be talking about this anymore.

00:59:19.000 By next week we'll be talking about whatever is the next thing that is happening.

00:59:23.000 Will there be more debates?

00:59:25.000 I don't think so.

00:59:26.000 I know that there's a lot of talk today about whether there's going to be more debates.

00:59:29.000 And Kamala Harris wants one. 0.99

00:59:30.000 She immediately came out and said, I want another debate.

00:59:32.000 I want another debate.

00:59:33.000 Of course she wants another debate because if it's going to be you and the moderators teaming up on Trump, then yeah, why wouldn't you want another debate if you are Kamala Harris? 1.00

00:59:40.000 Trump has said that he wants another debate, but obviously the devil's in the details.

00:59:45.000 Donald Trump cannot accept another one of these debates where the moderators just do her work for her.

00:59:50.000 He cannot.

00:59:50.000 That'd be a large scale mistake.

00:59:53.000 He should say, listen, I'm happy to do a debate with no moderators.

00:59:53.000 And he should say that.

00:59:56.000 No moderators.

00:59:57.000 We'll get the questions submitted in advance.

00:59:59.000 And then it will be a minute for you, a minute for me, 30 seconds rebuttal from each with a clock.

01:00:03.000 And there'll just be someone there who will just set the clock.

01:00:05.000 And when the beep goes off, the mics get muted.

01:00:07.000 And that's it.

01:00:09.000 Right?

01:00:09.000 That is a thing that he could do.

01:00:11.000 He could say, you know what?

01:00:12.000 If we're going to set up a debate, how about this?

01:00:14.000 We'll set up a system.

01:00:15.000 There's a system that's used in Jewish law courts, by the way.

01:00:17.000 I'll pick a moderator.

01:00:18.000 You pick a moderator.

01:00:19.000 They both pick a middle moderator.

01:00:21.000 How about that?

01:00:22.000 We could do that.

01:00:23.000 But he cannot accept the presets of CBS News or NBC News getting to decide who moderates the next debate, if there's going to be one.

01:00:31.000 And frankly, I'm not sure that another debate benefits him.

01:00:35.000 I just don't think, I'm not sure it does, because she's going to be able to lie her way out of it.

01:00:38.000 And seeing how easily she gets under his skin, tactically speaking, I'm not sure that that juxtaposition helps him.

01:00:45.000 Also, this debate did not hurt him that bad, you know, and that's the big takeaway.

01:00:49.000 At the end, a lot of takeaways.

01:00:51.000 She was more competent than was thought.

01:00:53.000 She studied up.

01:00:53.000 She did her job.

01:00:55.000 He missed the opportunity.

01:00:56.000 The media were awful.

01:00:57.000 But in the end, what's the big takeaway?

01:01:00.000 So the New York Times has a fascinating piece out today.

01:01:02.000 It's titled, Pundits Said Harris Won The Debate.

01:01:04.000 Undecided voters weren't so sure.

01:01:07.000 Tuesday night was the first time any voter had seen Mr.

01:01:09.000 Trump and Ms. Harris.

01:01:10.000 Harris together.

01:01:11.000 The two candidates had never met in person before, creating considerable trepidation among supporters of both campaigns about how they might perform.

01:01:16.000 Immediate reaction from political analysts favored Ms. 0.99

01:01:18.000 Harris, whose attacks appeared to rattle Mr. Trump.

01:01:22.000 But not all voters, especially those undecided few who could sway the election, were effusive about the vice president's performance.

01:01:27.000 In interviews, these undecided voters acknowledged that Ms.

01:01:29.000 Harris seemed more presidential than Trump, and they said she laid out a sweeping vision to fix some of the country's most stubborn problems. 0.97

01:01:34.000 But they also said she did not seem much different from Mr. Biden, and they wanted change.

01:01:39.000 And most of all, what they wanted to hear and didn't was the fine print.

01:01:43.000 Voters said they were glad she has a tax and economic plan.

01:01:45.000 They also want to know how it'll become law when Washington is so polarized.

01:01:48.000 They know she wants to give assistance to first-time homebuyers, but they doubt that's realistic.

01:01:53.000 Going into the debate, Harris faced a challenge Trump did not, telling the country what they should expect from her presidency.

01:01:58.000 She was unable to do that.

01:02:00.000 Again, that's, I think, in the end, the takeaway.

01:02:03.000 I think we are back to status quo ante.

01:02:04.000 I don't think things really changed based on this debate.

01:02:08.000 It's just, again, for the thousandth time, a missed opportunity, and there can't be more missed opportunities, which means the next big thing, October 1st, that is the vice presidential debate between J.D.

01:02:17.000 Vance and Tim Walz.

01:02:18.000 Normally, those don't make a huge, big difference or anything like that.

01:02:22.000 You never know, in this sort of bizarre election cycle, what could make a difference, and there are going to be exogenous events that affect this election.

01:02:30.000 But bottom line is that if you're a conservative, if you're a Republican, if you're a Trump supporter, don't be despondent.

01:02:35.000 Don't be in despair.

01:02:36.000 Acknowledge that last night was not a great night for Trump.

01:02:40.000 And also it doesn't hurt him particularly much.

01:02:42.000 If you're a Democrat, I know you're over the moon this morning.

01:02:44.000 I know you're feeling great about Kamala Harris.

01:02:45.000 You know that she's going to run away with this thing. 1.00

01:02:47.000 It's all over.

01:02:49.000 Understand there's two months left of the election.

01:02:51.000 She's going to shift back into vibes mode and avoid all questions for the foreseeable future. 0.95

01:02:55.000 The problem is the American people still don't have their answers.

01:02:59.000 Stop thinking about it from the perspective of somebody who supports Harris or opposes Harris.

01:03:01.000 Think about it from the perspective of somebody who doesn't know enough about Harris.

01:03:04.000 Do you think any of those people got any new information last night?

01:03:07.000 The answer is no.

01:03:08.000 Joining us online to discuss this debate is Vivek Ramaswamy.

01:03:12.000 Of course, you know Vivek from his presidential run.

01:03:14.000 He's been on this stage a few times himself.

01:03:16.000 Vivek, welcome to the show.

01:03:17.000 Great to talk to you.

01:03:18.000 Hey, good to see you, man.

01:03:19.000 I have to get your quick take on last night's debate, the three-on-one pile-on, the David Muir and Lindsay Davis versus Donald Trump debate.

01:03:27.000 What was your take?

01:03:29.000 So a few things.

01:03:29.000 I mean, like I see it, right?

01:03:31.000 Did Kamala Harris exceed the already low and purposefully low expectations set for her?

01:03:36.000 Yeah, I think she did.

01:03:37.000 But the media narrative is now magnifying that into something that was very different than what actually happened.

01:03:42.000 I thought Donald Trump's best moment, the best moment for either candidate on substance last night, I actually think, Was Donald Trump being able to inform a lot of independent voters and a lot of undecided voters what his actual position, the Republican Party's actual position is on abortion, on IVF?

01:04:01.000 Where they've told the public for a long time, the Harris campaign and the media has abetted this, saying that he would sign a federal ban on abortion.

01:04:08.000 I actually thought that was one of the exchanges where he came out with crystal clarity, and also the fact that he's going to champion IVF.

01:04:14.000 I know that seems like one of the smaller, topic-focused takeaways from last night, but if you fast-forward this three weeks, that's one of the most substantive impacts I think it's going to have on the race for an issue that a lot of people do seem to think is a big one for the presidential race at the level of voters.

01:04:29.000 I think the three-on-one pile-on was an embarrassment for ABC.

01:04:32.000 I think that David Muir, in particular, did an awful job of even feigning even-handedness.

01:04:38.000 Often what you see in media bias is you'll see the appearance of feigning balance.

01:04:43.000 I think in David Muir's case, they didn't even try to feign balance with the number of times they fact-checked, I use that in air quotes, fact-checked Donald Trump, but without even attempting to really go after Kamala Harris for her prevarication on a wide range of topics.

01:04:57.000 So that was a bit of a disappointment.

01:04:59.000 The other thing that I think President Trump, I think, could hit even harder, I think he hit it hard last night, but I hope in any future debates that come up he does, is the question he really nailed in the conclusion, which is, why haven't you done everything that you're now saying you're going to do over the four years that you actually held power along with Joe Biden?

01:05:17.000 He made a compelling case for that in the closing.

01:05:19.000 I thought his, one of his sharpest moments was actually said, When he said, we can end this debate and you can actually go back and sign a bill, and if not sign a bill, take an executive action that would close the border.

01:05:31.000 And in some ways that, in that short moment, highlighted what I think is probably his most powerful argument throughout all of her race to the center.

01:05:39.000 She can say what she wants, but her actions speak louder than words.

01:05:42.000 And I think the best moments for him were last night when he actually allowed that theme to come through.

01:05:48.000 Overall, two weeks from now, I don't think it's going to have a major impact on the race.

01:05:51.000 I think it's gonna come down to a couple of open issues that haven't been addressed on policy by Kamala Harris.

01:05:56.000 That's my hot off the press take away.

01:05:58.000 I mean, I totally agree, obviously, with all of that.

01:06:01.000 I think that mostly for me and for a lot of people, this felt like a missed opportunity more than anything else

01:06:05.000 because Kamala Harris has been avoiding questions like the plague. 0.99

01:06:08.000 She's gonna continue to avoid questions like the plague because she can't answer any of those questions.

01:06:12.000 And it seems to me this race really revolves around Donald Trump establishing

01:06:15.000 about her three very basic principles.

01:06:18.000 One, she's the vice president.

01:06:19.000 She's currently responsible for everything that is happening in the White House.

01:06:23.000 The president is not competent.

01:06:24.000 She's the vice president.

01:06:25.000 She owns all of this.

01:06:26.000 Two, she's a far leftist. 1.00

01:06:27.000 She herself has said her values have not changed.

01:06:29.000 So even if she's pretending that her actual policies have changed, her values have not, she's admitted as much. 0.99

01:06:33.000 And three, she's an incompetent and she's always been an incompetent. 1.00

01:06:36.000 And I don't think that he actually was able to really establish any of those things on the stage last night. 0.94

01:06:41.000 I think he planted seeds.

01:06:42.000 The problem was that there was so much going on.

01:06:44.000 He was so distracted, I think, by many of the attacks that she was leveling against him, against his rallies, that it just felt discombobulated.

01:06:51.000 And what we really needed was something that was a lot more focused.

01:06:53.000 And I'm hoping that There are two months to go.

01:06:56.000 It's still a long time.

01:06:57.000 This campaign gets a lot more focused on those issues and just sticks to those issues and pummels around those.

01:07:02.000 Yeah, and I'm not going to beat a dead horse in complaining about aspects of last night.

01:07:06.000 One hard reality is that would have been a job for the moderators in a format in which they have muted mics.

01:07:12.000 You know, Donald Trump, I think, did try at several points in time to address questions to Kamala Harris, but that wasn't the level or the type of format That had been negotiated, and when the moderators completely abdicated that responsibility, I think it, you know, it was a missed opportunity for voters, is what I would say, to see a lot of those holes in Kamala Harris's policy positions.

01:07:31.000 I agree with 90% of what you said.

01:07:32.000 The only part I disagree with, you know, you and maybe some others when they've made this claim, is I think calling Kamala Harris a far-left Marxist is almost giving her too much credit.

01:07:42.000 It assumes that she's ideological, right?

01:07:44.000 Bernie Sanders is ideological, okay?

01:07:46.000 You could give somebody, I disagree with his ideology, but he has an ideology.

01:07:50.000 I don't think Kamala Harris particularly has an ideology.

01:07:53.000 I think what's closer to the flame is the idea that she's just another cog in the system.

01:07:57.000 You said it before, it's totally right, by the way.

01:07:59.000 It's totally right.

01:08:00.000 I mean, they're slapping a new coat of paint on a solid blue jalopy.

01:08:02.000 Yep.

01:08:03.000 Yeah.

01:08:04.000 So anyway, that's my perspective on, you know, as we wrap up the debate from last night.

01:08:07.000 Basic thing is I think a lot's gonna happen in the next six weeks and two weeks from now.

01:08:12.000 I think much of that debate's going to be irrelevant, except for I think the ability to take the legs out from under the Democrat argument on abortion, which I think was a quiet but underappreciated positive coming out of last night.

01:08:25.000 Thank you.

01:08:26.000 In just one second, we're going to get to the biggest endorsement of the year.

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01:08:46.000 Growing up, I never thought much about race. 0.95

01:08:48.000 It never really seemed to matter that much, at least not to me.

01:08:50.000 Am I racist?

01:08:52.000 I would really appreciate it if you... I'm trying to learn.

01:08:54.000 I'm on this journey.

01:08:55.000 I'm gonna sort this out.

01:08:56.000 I need to go deeper undercover.

01:08:59.000 You say I'm racist.

01:09:01.000 Joining us now is Matt, certified DEI expert.

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01:09:05.000 What you're doing is you're stretching out of your whiteness. 0.71

01:09:08.000 There's more for you in this field.

01:09:09.000 Is America inherently racist?

01:09:10.000 The word inherent is challenging there.

01:09:12.000 I'm gonna rename the George Washington Monument to the George Floyd Monument. 0.82

01:09:16.000 America is racist to its bones.

01:09:17.000 So inherently? 0.98

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01:09:19.000 This country is a piece of... 0.99

01:09:21.000 White. 0.97

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01:09:24.000 White boy. 1.00

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01:09:26.000 There's a black person right here.

01:09:27.000 Does he not exist?

01:09:29.000 Hi, Robin.

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01:09:31.000 What's your name?

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