The Ben Shapiro Show - November 14, 2026


The New DC Boss Is a Christian Who Wants to Make Movies for Normal People

The NVIDIA Scandal Just Exploded. Here's Everything.

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00:00:00 Well, folks, as we discussed earlier this week, James Gunn is gone from the DC universe.
00:00:04 He's gone.
00:00:04 And that's a very, very good thing.
00:00:06 It's excellent.
00:00:07 We don't want James Gunn in the DC universe.
00:00:08 He did a bad job there.
00:00:09 He fundamentally misunderstood the moral calculus of the DC universe.
00:00:14 He didn't understand the basic matrix that Superman is supposed to represent good and Batman is supposed to represent a person who is struggling with the realities of crime in a fallen world and all that kind of stuff.
00:00:24 Well, he's gone and he has now been replaced by a person named Jeremy Latcham.
00:00:27 Now, I didn't really know Jeremy Latcham, but I think this is promising.
00:00:32 According to Newsweek, Latcham's background extends beyond his blockbuster resume.
00:00:36 He has spoken publicly about his Christian faith and his attraction to stories built around redemption, heroism, and moral choices.
00:00:42 In comments to MovieGuide in July, he said audiences want inspiring films and added that superhero stories naturally lend themselves to ideas about doing the good thing and doing right.
00:00:50 Okay, this is literally my entire take on why superhero movies do well.
00:00:54 It used to be that all movies were about doing good and doing right.
00:00:58 Go watch Casablanca.
00:00:59 It's about doing good and doing right, or It's a Wonderful Life.
00:01:01 It's about doing good and on the water.
00:01:03 Like every classic film.
00:01:04 From the 30s, 40s, 50s, even the early 60s is about doing good and doing right.
00:01:09 But since we no longer expect actual humans to do good or do right, superhero films have become sort of the place where that happens.
00:01:16 So he gets that, which is great.
00:01:18 He also told CBN that he has a test as to whether a movie he's making will work outside of the Hollywood bubble.
00:01:27 Here is his explanation.
00:01:29 Because when we were making the first Marvel movies, I'd always be like, I don't know if my grandma would like that.
00:01:34 You know, and that became like a guiding light of like as we were developing the movies, like I just had this like sense of like, well, I don't know if my grandma would like that.
00:01:41 And that became the stand in for like, is this going to work for like regular people that are outside of the bubble of Hollywood?
00:01:49 Like, what does this say for like a regular family?
00:01:53 He's asking the questions Hollywood should be asking.
00:01:55 It's again, those are the questions we're asking when we make our movies.
00:01:58 Well, now he's asking those same exact questions, which is great.
00:02:01 Here he was explaining that what people don't need is a bunch of CGI vomit.
00:02:05 What they actually need is some heart.
00:02:07 Again, this is sort of classic.
00:02:08 Filmmaking, like back to the good old days.
00:02:11 I'm getting a little optimistic here.
00:02:14 The thing that I learned most at Marvel is that the thing that drives a movie, and it's something I feel very strongly about, is heart, humor, and spectacle in that order.
00:02:23 And I think everyone gets it wrong.
00:02:24 I think a lot of people in town say, we're making a spectacle film, and his characters don't matter as much, and the humor doesn't matter as much because it's all about the spectacle.
00:02:32 But guess what?
00:02:33 We can all see spectacle everywhere we go now.
00:02:35 We can turn our video games, and we can live in this world of the world falling apart and it all ending, and blah, And we don't care because we've seen it, you know?
00:02:43 And so, what makes you care is the heart, characters that you can actually invest in, characters you can fall in love with, characters you want to spend time with.
00:02:50 Again, I'm becoming more and more optimistic.
00:02:52 I know it's an unusual feeling for me.
00:02:54 I'm becoming optimistic a little bit.
00:02:56 Will Jeremy Latcham save my DC superhero characters, you know, the ones that I like?
00:03:02 Will he do it?
00:03:02 I don't know.
00:03:03 It sounds like he might.
00:03:04 It sounds like he might.
00:03:05 And again, it turns out, as we say, that he has spoken publicly about his Christian faith that is not unrelated to the moral universe he is seeking to build here.
00:03:12 That sounds pretty good.
00:03:14 From the important to the even more important.
00:03:16 We're now going to talk about Call Her Daddy.
00:03:18 This segment is sponsored by our friends over at Peer Talk.
00:03:20 Well, meanwhile, I know that we talk about the news on this program and I know that I write movies about Russian literature and 1938 Stalin Russia, but there are truly important things happening in the world.
00:03:31 And here I refer to, of course, controversy surrounding the cast of Call Her Daddy.
00:03:36 And here to walk me through the truly important things happening here on this planet is our good friend, Lyndon Blake.
00:03:42 She, of course, is host of the Daily Wire's That's So Criminal.
00:03:46 And she has all the deets As the kids say about what is going on in the call her daddy world.
00:03:52 So, Lyndon, explain.
00:03:55 I think this new scandal is going to sit well with our audience because a lot of times on the Daily Wire, a lot of times on your show, Ben, you talk a lot about Alex Cooper and call her daddy, and quite frankly, how raunchy it was.
00:04:10 And the raunchiness has come to the full attention of the entire world when Sophia Franklin aired out all the dirty laundry in her new memoir, Daddy Issues.
00:04:23 So, to give you the backstory, Alex Cooper and Sophia Franklin.
00:04:27 founded, hosted, call her daddy.
00:04:29 They only put out three episodes before Dave Portnoy, my guy with Barstool got a hold of them and made them mega stars.
00:04:39 Literally months into their brand new talent deal, they both are like, man, we need to make some more money.
00:04:45 We're valued at more than this.
00:04:47 And that's where the drama started.
00:04:49 And then it fell apart because they couldn't reach a deal. 0.97
00:04:52 Sophia Franklin didn't want to work at Barstool.
00:04:54 Alex Cooper took the deal and call her daddy as we knew it back then just fizzled out.
00:05:01 But this book, this book let you in on what really went down.
00:05:06 We all knew they couldn't come to an agreement and the podcast went to kapoop and Alex Cooper ended up taking the podcast as a solo host and it is what it is today.
00:05:16 But what you learn from the book is frankly how raunchy Sophia Franklin really was. 0.99
00:05:21 She had substance abuse issues. 0.99
00:05:23 She is the one that had all the crazy sex stories. 0.52
00:05:28 Alex Cooper, who gets a lot of the brunt from, oh, she's doing all this.
00:05:33 She was actually getting all her content written for her by her high school best friend, this guy named Muji.
00:05:41 Now, why is this important?
00:05:42 Because Alex Cooper, if you want to look at it this way, was a fraud.
00:05:46 It wasn't her content.
00:05:47 It wasn't her ideas.
00:05:49 Now, she was the business mind behind all of this.
00:05:51 And I do believe she was the hard worker in this partnership.
00:05:55 She did the edits. 0.95
00:05:56 She cared because Sophia was too busy out there doing drugs and blacking out and not remembering anything.
00:06:04 But if you want to take a side in this big podcast war, I'm telling you, you got to go with Dave Portnoy because he is the one that tried to save it.
00:06:13 He has seen both sides and he's saying they both were crazy.
00:06:16 They both were difficult.
00:06:18 This is not how it's being framed.
00:06:20 Sophia is lying.
00:06:21 Alex is lying.
00:06:22 And he's just like, man, I'm trying to tell the truth.
00:06:25 And what is the most interesting part that not a lot of people are talking about in daddy issues because it's more on the Alex and Sophia, how the relationship came to be, how it fell apart.
00:06:35 Both of these girls tried to come up with this sexual assault allegation to pin on Barstool.
00:06:43 It was their way of trying to find a reason that Barstool would let them out of their contract.
00:06:49 And Ben, you know this, I know this, that is just wrong.
00:06:56 So, in other words, they're trying to get out of their contract.
00:06:59 And what you're telling me is that they essentially put together a fake or put together a sexual assault allegation specifically as sort of a blackmail component.
00:07:08 Of an attempt to violate their contract, which is pretty astonishing stuff.
00:07:12 It is really astonishing, especially when you have Alex Cooper being this voice for women everywhere.
00:07:19 I mean, she's really put herself as this girl boss women's champion, but she was doing some bad things.
00:07:25 And if these sexual assault allegations were real, Alex would not still be friendly with Barcelona and Dave.
00:07:34 They actually still have a decent relationship, even till this day.
00:07:38 It was just one of those things where Hard work is going to be talent when talent doesn't work hard.
00:07:43 That's what I took away from the book.
00:07:45 I feel bad for Sophia.
00:07:46 She's married now. 0.63
00:07:47 It seems like she's gotten her life together and got them clean, but she had a horrible upbringing.
00:07:51 She was not a part of a nuclear family.
00:07:53 She was on drugs and all this kind of stuff starting in middle school, and she could not get it together for the big stage that was the original Caller Daddy.
00:08:01 And Alex Cooper did, and you can't fault Alex Cooper for not wanting to work with a drug addict.
00:08:07 Well, Lyndon, I do have to say that one of the things that you said there is kind of a buried lead that I think is sort of fascinating.
00:08:12 So you're saying that Alex Cooper, a lot of the raunchy materials, a lot of the stuff that she was saying was written by a dude, because I was informed this is the most feminist show that ever feminists did. 0.55
00:08:21 And that when we are talking about women acting in, shall we say, Unladylike ways that that is a core aspect of femininity.
00:08:28 But it turns out that actually it was just being written by some dude about either his experiences or fantasies of experiences.
00:08:35 Like, where did he get these experiences?
00:08:37 How did he project that into Alex Cooper?
00:08:39 That's one of the biggest takeaways.
00:08:41 And the unknown part that a lot of people didn't know is this guy, Muji Frick, is his name.
00:08:45 He was her best friend from high school.
00:08:47 She grew up in Pennsylvania.
00:08:49 And he was the one that made, I mean, I'm not going to say the famous jokes on here because they are disgusting, but all the Famous things that they were known for, their famous sayings, how they need to act around men. 0.90
00:09:01 It was taken from Muji.
00:09:04 And then in the book, Sophia said a lot of Muji's content was taken from other people culturally known as Black Twitter, that there were things being said online that he was taking jokes from.
00:09:16 It was not original.
00:09:17 So they are sitting here preaching to all these girls for years about how to get a guy, how to get rid of a guy, why guys aren't important.
00:09:25 This is what you need to do.
00:09:26 And it was fake. 0.70
00:09:29 And a bright spot in all of this is there have been girls coming out online and being like, this podcast was toxic and bad for me.
00:09:39 And I believed it for a long time when I was young and impressionable.
00:09:45 And now they weren't even living the life they were telling other girls to live. 0.90
00:09:49 It's really gross.
00:09:51 It definitely is. 0.97
00:09:52 And Lyndon, I guess you filed that one under the patriarchy always wins because even when the, even when it's a female host who's making bank, And telling other women to be promiscuous.
00:10:01 It turns out that it's a dude who's actually writing all of that stuff. 0.95
00:10:04 And the great beneficiaries are, of course, terrible men.
00:10:07 So, well done all the way across the board for the folks over at Call Her Daddy.
00:10:11 Well, Lyndon, thank you for that vital update on matters.
00:10:14 The truth is, it actually is kind of important because lots and lots of people follow that sort of stuff, probably more people than follow the granular politics that we cover here on the show.
00:10:21 And so you should know what's going on in the world.
00:10:23 Lyndon, really appreciate the time.
00:10:25 Ben, anytime.
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