The Ben Shapiro Show - The New Imperialists Are Globalist Elites | Ep. 1579

00:00:00.000 The elite remakers of the global economy join the Clinton Global Initiative to talk about building utopia, Vanderbilt Hospitals exposed for its radical transgender policies, and Joe Biden squares off with Ron DeSantis over illegal immigration.

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00:02:35.000 Well, there was a theory in Marxism that suggested that capitalism was the source of all imperialism.

00:02:41.000 This is a theory that was attributed to Vladimir Lenin.

00:02:43.000 He wrote an entire book titled Imperialism.

00:02:45.000 The idea was that capitalism inevitably descended into a form of imperialism because you needed new capital markets to exploit.

00:02:53.000 You need to exploit labor abroad. 0.97

00:02:54.000 So the problem with Marxism as it originally stood, there are many problems, but one of the theoretical problems is that it posited that there would be exploitation of the workers at the hands of the capitalists.

00:03:03.000 There would be a necessary impoverishment of the working class at the hands of the people who held all of the capital in capitalist economies. 0.98

00:03:12.000 And this would lead to class conflict that would eventually result in the overthrow of those economies by a more communist society.

00:03:18.000 This did not materialize.

00:03:19.000 And so Vladimir Lenin, looking for an excuse for why exactly Western countries that were free market had actually enriched their workers, looking for a rationale for that, he suggested, well, it must be that imperialism is the way that these capitalist economies have actually Gotten rid of sort of their poverty.

00:03:36.000 They exported their poverty to other countries in the third world by invading those countries and turning them into dependency countries. 0.99

00:03:43.000 And there is no evidence to back this theory.

00:03:45.000 This theory does not work.

00:03:46.000 There are a bunch of reasons the theory doesn't work.

00:03:47.000 One of those reasons is that if you actually look at advanced capitalist economies, even at the time that Lenin was writing, Those economies tended to invest in one another.

00:03:55.000 So European capital tended to actually end up in America or in Europe.

00:03:58.000 And what that meant is that it wasn't that tons of capital export was going to dependent states in say Africa or South America, and then goods were coming back.

00:04:09.000 in different form to the centralized country as a method of exploitation.

00:04:14.000 Instead, it turns out that advanced capitalist free market economies tend to invest in one another.

00:04:18.000 That's one problem with the idea that imperialism is an outgrowth of capitalism.

00:04:21.000 The other problem, of course, is that the greatest imperialism that we've seen over the course of this particular century is imperialism that is directly connected to government power, centralized government power.

00:04:31.000 Nazi Germany was an imperialist country that decided to invade all of its neighbors in pursuit of a mercantilist autocracy.

00:04:36.000 The idea there was that you needed autarky.

00:04:39.000 Everything has to be internal to the regime.

00:04:40.000 Therefore, we need to grab, for example, oil supplies in Ukraine.

00:04:44.000 Same thing with the Soviet Russians. 0.64

00:04:45.000 The Soviet Russians decided they needed to expand not only their sphere of influence, but their actual territorial holdings in order to keep forever impoverished areas impoverished and then exploit all of those labor sources and all of those Natural resources for the purposes of the centralized government.

00:05:03.000 And the reason that I'm getting into this is because today we are seeing a new form of imperialism.

00:05:07.000 It's sort of a moral imperialism.

00:05:09.000 See, the thing about free markets and capitalism is that it is always cheaper to trade than it is to invade.

00:05:15.000 Trade and free markets make it so that why would you bother invading a country if you can just trade with that country?

00:05:21.000 War is extremely expensive.

00:05:22.000 It's extremely costly, particularly for democracies.

00:05:25.000 And so if you're a free marketeer, what you prefer almost always is to trade.

00:05:29.000 You prefer to leave countries alone and then allow them to send you their resources and you send them resources.

00:05:34.000 And this is how trade works.

00:05:35.000 It is mutually beneficial.

00:05:37.000 But there is a form of imperialism that has now arisen on the world stage, in which giant global institutions decide they're going to remake a bunch of other countries in their own image.

00:05:47.000 Not in order to spread freedom or capitalism or free market ideas or individualism, but in order to spread a vision of utopia.

00:05:54.000 And this is what you are seeing increasingly from capitalists.

00:05:57.000 You can see why today's left might look at top-level free marketeers like Larry Fink over at BlackRock, for example.

00:06:06.000 And say to themselves, well, capitalism, just like Lennon said, capitalism is leading to imperialism.

00:06:09.000 It's leading to cultural imperialism.

00:06:10.000 It's leading to economic imperialism.

00:06:12.000 But the reality is that the impulse that Larry Fink over at BlackRock or that members of the World Economic Forum are pushing, that form of imperialism is actually not driven by capitalism.

00:06:22.000 It's not driven by a desire for free markets.

00:06:24.000 It's driven by something else.

00:06:25.000 It's driven by a guilt complex from many people who have made a lot of money through free markets.

00:06:29.000 And that guilt complex means that these folks are actually quite anti-capitalism.

00:06:33.000 They're very much in favor of the system that enriched them so long as it enriches them.

00:06:36.000 But then I feel very guilty about the fact that they have become very rich and therefore they must use their power in order to essentially alleviate the burdens of the world.

00:06:46.000 And what this amounts to in reality is good intentions and really, really bad imperialist side effects.

00:06:52.000 And so you see this most clearly at the Clinton Global Initiative.

00:06:55.000 So according to the New York Times, Bill Hillary and Chelsea Clinton have returned to center stage.

00:07:00.000 And we're supposed to be very, very happy about all of this.

00:07:00.000 Their own.

00:07:03.000 First of all, it's pretty obvious that Hillary Clinton is revving up for a potential 2024 presidential run. 0.99

00:07:08.000 But if Joe Biden decides not to run, Hillary's going to throw her hat in the ring. 1.00

00:07:10.000 She's extraordinarily visible now.

00:07:12.000 She has a series on Apple TV Plus that we've made fun of at least five times on the show.

00:07:16.000 And now they're reviving the Clinton Global Initiative after shutting it down for several years because it was obviously sort of a corrupt front group.

00:07:23.000 According to the New York Times, after a six-year hiatus, the Clinton Global Initiative returned to New York City this week, bringing together leaders from the worlds of nonprofit, government, and business, the few celebrities sprinkled in for good measure.

00:07:32.000 It has been an eventful few years since they last gathered in 2016.

00:07:35.000 Former President Clinton said in his opening remarks at the Hilton in Midtown Manhattan, And Clinton Global Initiative is always and has always been about what we can do and not what we can't do.

00:07:48.000 According to the New York Times, the Clinton Global Initiative began in 2005 and quickly became something akin to a Davos-on-the-Hudson event, but one with a greater focus on philanthropy, nonprofits, and corporate do-gooding.

00:07:57.000 The way it differed from most conferences is that it required participants to make commitments, sometimes in dollars, other times in targets, such as for creating jobs or delivering clean water.

00:08:05.000 Up to the hiatus in 2016, attendees announced more than 3,700 commitments, which by the organization's own tally had helped more than 435 million people in over 180 countries.

00:08:13.000 I mean, it's very nice of them to pat themselves on the back.

00:08:15.000 The real question is, is the policy that they are pushing on countries that may not be particularly into it, are those policies productive or counterproductive?

00:08:23.000 Because it turns out that the preconditions to thriving for any successful country are going to be things like property rights, free markets, stable institutions of government, technological advancement unhampered by extraordinarily restrictive green Regulations.

00:08:41.000 These are all preconditions to development and growth.

00:08:43.000 The Clinton Global Initiative pushes against many of these things on behalf of many people who benefited from particularly these institutions that many of them now don't like very much.

00:08:52.000 They instead want to centralize power in their own hands.

00:08:54.000 So the new imperialists are the globalist elites.

00:08:56.000 When I say globalist, I don't mean people who are in favor of global free trade.

00:09:00.000 Global free trade does not make you a globalist.

00:09:01.000 What makes you a globalist is the idea, the flattening of all politics into there should be some bosses at the top and everybody else should live the same.

00:09:08.000 This is a major problem.

00:09:10.000 It's a major problem when you talk about country to country globalism, the idea that that one country should extend its reach over all countries in order to flatten them out and make them live the way that we do.

00:09:21.000 By the way, it's a serious problem inside the United States when the federal government says that everybody in the United States needs to live exactly the same way, that basically the federal government is the only government that matters, and Florida needs to live exactly like New York, which needs to live exactly like Iowa.

00:09:33.000 That's a real problem as well.

00:09:35.000 The best politics are all local in nature because you and your neighbors tend to agree, whereas you and some dude up in New York, if you're down here in Florida, you're going to tend not to agree.

00:09:42.000 Well, that is even more true, like far more true when it comes to the global level.

00:09:46.000 The idea that there's one global set of rules and it's going to be imposed by a bunch of very, very wealthy elites who have benefited from a system that they now feel guilty about.

00:09:55.000 It's a real problem.

00:09:57.000 It is ignorance of how economies work.

00:09:59.000 It is ignorance about how development actually works.

00:10:02.000 And yet these folks have basically deemed themselves the new creators of the global financial universe.

00:10:08.000 These are people who have deemed themselves the utopian thinkers who are going to fix all the problems.

00:10:13.000 And that's the nature of the Clinton Global Initiative.

00:10:16.000 As the New York Times says, the goal is to recapture that old Clinton magic and see if there is room in a field of thought-leading, pledge-making symposia crowding the city this week.

00:10:25.000 Advisors to Bill Clinton said that in the years since he launched it, he had longed to restart the event.

00:10:29.000 He would tell me regularly when we were just talking before a board meeting.

00:10:31.000 I was just out last night.

00:10:32.000 Someone was saying, when are you going to start CGI again, said Robert Harrison, former chief executive of the Clinton Global Initiative from 2007 to 2016.

00:10:38.000 A year ago, 10 months ago, we looked at each other and said, let's try.

00:10:43.000 Judging by the names of the event, many old friends and allies answered the call, including philanthropists Laurene Powell Jobs, Melinda French Gates, Secretary Xavier Becerra of the Department of Health and Human Services, State Governors, Corporate Chief Executives, the Chairman of the Security and Exchange Commission, and the Director General of the World Health Organization.

00:10:58.000 And then you had a bunch of people who were making commitments ranging from building soccer fields in underserved communities to making bricks out of volcanic ash.

00:11:05.000 But it really is the thematic that matters the most here.

00:11:09.000 And so when you listen to a wide variety of very powerful global financial officials, people in both governmental and non-governmental organizations, in the corporate world and in the nonprofit world, when you listen to these people talk about how they wish to remold and reshape the world in their own image, you have to realize, again, imperialism is the outgrowth of utopianism.

00:11:29.000 It is not the outgrowth of free markets.

00:11:30.000 And very often it cuts directly against free markets.

00:11:33.000 So, for example, At the Clinton Global Initiative yesterday, the UN's ESG czar, that is the Environmental Social Governance czar, a person named Damilola Ogunbi, talked about how there are endless supplies of money to just remake the world toward an ESG transition.

00:11:49.000 Now, ESG is basically code for equity, which is the left-wing notion that all inequality is the result of some sort of deep injustice in the system.

00:12:00.000 It's also code for, ESG, that we ought to restrict the growth of Western economies.

00:12:04.000 We ought to restrict your lifestyle.

00:12:06.000 We ought to make it harder for you to get the products and services you want.

00:12:08.000 And by the way, we ought to make it harder for people who are in developing countries to get the products and services they want, all in the name of sort of a green utopianism, whereby we can make wind, solar, and other, quote, green forms of energy more efficient.

00:12:22.000 And we have endless supplies of money to do this.

00:12:24.000 Now, where that money comes from, they don't care.

00:12:26.000 And that's sort of the point.

00:12:28.000 Again, this is not free market stuff that we are talking about.

00:12:30.000 This isn't free market imperialism.

00:12:31.000 This is utopian centralization promoted by do-gooderism.

00:12:35.000 Here we go.

00:12:37.000 First recognize it's a crisis.

00:12:40.000 And, you know, just how we found is that 14 or 17 trillion for COVID, the money must be there somewhere.

00:12:48.000 The money must be there somewhere, right?

00:12:49.000 We're not going to explain how the money gets there.

00:12:51.000 We're not going to try to figure out where the money comes from.

00:12:53.000 The answer is, when we spent $17 trillion on COVID, it came literally from nowhere, which is why we now have a massive inflationary problem across Western economies.

00:13:01.000 But they don't care about that.

00:13:02.000 Because again, the idea is that utopia exists out there, and we are the wisest people who have ever lived.

00:13:07.000 And therefore, we are going to spread our values around the world.

00:13:11.000 And by the way, they're both economic values, which directly cut against capitalism.

00:13:15.000 And they are, as we will see, A set of moral values that cut directly against the interests of American families.

00:13:22.000 It's not just people who work for the UN.

00:13:24.000 It's BlackRock's Larry Fink.

00:13:25.000 So BlackRock, of course, is one of the biggest investment firms on planet Earth.

00:13:29.000 They run trillions of dollars in assets, which means they have extraordinary levels of control over corporations, major corporations in the United States.

00:13:37.000 Many of them have huge chunks of them in terms of their stock owned by BlackRock, which means that Larry Fink basically says to these corporations, jump.

00:13:43.000 And the corporations say, how high?

00:13:45.000 And Larry Fink does not have the free market's best interest at heart, right?

00:13:49.000 He doesn't believe that systems that are sort of left to their own evolutionary devices make the world better, which is the basis of the free market.

00:13:55.000 The basic idea of the free market is that decentralized knowledge We don't all have to get in a room and plan anything.

00:14:01.000 The decentralized knowledge, my knowledge of my own life, your knowledge of your own life, Bob's knowledge of his own life, that allows us to freely trade amongst one another and then specialize in the things that we are good at and make the world better thereby.

00:14:11.000 To innovate, create new markets, right?

00:14:14.000 That is the idea of a free market.

00:14:16.000 But according to people like Larry Fink, it all has to be organized under Larry Fink.

00:14:20.000 And so if he can change the incentive structure by himself, using your money, by the way, because he doesn't own all the money at BlackRock, you just like how Larry Fink has invested your money, typically speaking, and now he's going to use the power of your pension fund in order to cram down his own values against your interest, by the way, as both a consumer and as an investor.

00:14:36.000 Here's Larry Fink.

00:14:38.000 Because of the rising energy prices, we are certainly seeing the green premium shrink quite considerably.

00:14:45.000 And so the amount of investment dollars that are going into new decarbonization technology is accelerating.

00:14:52.000 So he's saying that what we are seeing because of the driving up of the energy prices because of the inflationary policy we pursued, that's good because it's made all energy more expensive.

00:15:04.000 And we have also created disincentives for people to invest in making energy cheaper via oil and natural gas regulations and through ESG corporate governance by using the power of BlackRock to cram down these rules.

00:15:16.000 and regulations self-imposed on the energy industry.

00:15:19.000 We have actually made energy more expensive, which means that by comparison, green energy has become cheaper.

00:15:25.000 So we actually haven't made green energy any more efficient.

00:15:27.000 We've just made everything else less efficient.

00:15:29.000 Now, does that sound good for consumers?

00:15:31.000 Does that sound good for investors, the people who invest with Larry Fink?

00:15:34.000 Does that sound good for people in the developing world who deeply rely on carbon-based fossil fuels in order to develop?

00:15:41.000 Of course not.

00:15:42.000 The more that you have these centralized dolts in charge of policy, the worse things get.

00:15:47.000 For people, particularly in the developing world, who require free markets, who require free exchange of goods and services, and the most efficient goods and services on the market, in order to develop.

00:15:56.000 You want to know why China and India are the world's leading emitters?

00:15:58.000 Because they are trying to develop.

00:15:59.000 When you're trying to develop, you do not care about the forests and the rivers as much as you care about how many of your people are dying of starvation.

00:16:06.000 Which is their role.

00:16:08.000 Now, as the world develops globally through free markets, the free market will in fact take into account things like environmental damage.

00:16:17.000 That's what's happened in the West.

00:16:19.000 The carbon footprint in terms of the West, generally speaking, has been declining as a proportion of carbon emissions planet-wide over the course of the last several decades.

00:16:28.000 In the United States, carbon emissions have been declining pretty markedly over the course of the last decade and a half because we've become more energy efficient.

00:16:36.000 In terms of how much power it takes to actually power your house, for example, we've become much more energy, even using carbon-based fossil fuels.

00:16:44.000 But the idea here is that if they cram down utopia on everybody, this will make everything better.

00:16:49.000 That utopianism is the real imperialism, the globalist utopianism of people like Larry Fink, of people like the Clintons.

00:16:55.000 That's the stuff that really should scare people.

00:16:56.000 It's the do-gooderism, as always, that should scare people.

00:16:59.000 Especially because it's connected with a real sort of dark side.

00:17:03.000 And that dark side is that if you don't go along with our do-gooderism, this makes you bad.

00:17:08.000 And if you think that what we are saying is wrong, incorrect, will have damaging effects on both people living in developed countries and people living in undeveloped countries, if you say that, then this makes you actually a person with evil motive.

00:17:20.000 That's what Bill Clinton and Larry Fink were saying to one another at the Clinton Global Initiative yesterday.

00:17:25.000 I want to say one thing about Larry that I really admire, quite apart from the fact that he's not a climate change denier.

00:17:36.000 I'm the target of all those.

00:17:41.000 He's the target of the climate change deniers.

00:17:43.000 Anybody who disagrees with Bill Clinton or Larry Fink about whether they get to be in control of the global economy is a climate change denier.

00:17:49.000 Now, never mind the fact that there are many of us out here who say, sure, climate change is happening.

00:17:53.000 Sure, a majority of that climate change is probably caused by human activity.

00:17:57.000 It's anthropogenic.

00:17:59.000 But the question is how you mitigate against that stuff, how you adapt to that stuff.

00:18:03.000 And the policies that you guys are promoting are not doing any of that.

00:18:06.000 You're just throwing everybody else's money, your investors' money, at a problem in a way that is unlikely to solve.

00:18:12.000 That, according to Bill Clinton and according to Larry Fink, runs directly against reality, right?

00:18:17.000 You're a climate change denier.

00:18:18.000 You're a bad person.

00:18:19.000 You want people to be living underwater or some such.

00:18:22.000 And again, this has penetrated so many areas of global economic life.

00:18:27.000 It's penetrated corporate America.

00:18:29.000 Unilever's CEO, Alan Joe, he said, you know what?

00:18:32.000 The reason that we like ESG is because we can't sell products underwater.

00:18:35.000 Nobody is suggesting that Unilever is going to be selling products underwater.

00:18:38.000 But what exactly does Unilever have to do with the greening of the world economy via massive subsidy boondoggles that are unlikely to actually have an impact on the climate the way he says they are?

00:18:49.000 Make the case based on your evidence for the people here who might like to do what you're doing but think it's not economically feasible.

00:19:02.000 There is an element of risk and risk avoidance associated with trying to run a business on a sustainable platform.

00:19:09.000 Right now our company in Pakistan, one of our finest businesses around the world, is underwater.

00:19:15.000 We'll push through that, but it's not a great place to be selling food or personal care products when you're underwater or on fire.

00:19:25.000 Okay, so again, the idea is that we can reconstruct the entire world economy to prevent natural disasters.

00:19:29.000 That, again, is granting a level of control to the CEO of Unilever that does not exist in reality.

00:19:36.000 It just does not exist.

00:19:37.000 Which really suggests that this is an exercise in self-glorification.

00:19:41.000 That this is an exercise in my values are the values that matter.

00:19:44.000 And it's not just when it comes to the economy.

00:19:46.000 It's not just seizing the reins of a global economy and then redirecting all of that in almost mercantilist fashion toward your desired end, which is the opposite of free market hearing.

00:19:56.000 Free markets suggest, again, that there will be a gradual evolution of prices along the lines of collectivized knowledge.

00:20:04.000 Mercantilism suggests that there's a bunch of people at the very top of an economic system and they get to direct all the levers of power.

00:20:09.000 So does communism.

00:20:11.000 Any sort of economic system that suggests that there's a group of experts sitting in a room and they get to decide policy for everyone, that runs directly counter to precisely the systems that have generated enormous upswings in human prosperity since 1800.

00:20:24.000 If you look at the history of economics, what you see is that there's very little development in terms of economic GDP growth for about a couple thousand years, basically for nearly all of human history up until 1800.

00:20:34.000 Looks like a flat line, economic growth.

00:20:36.000 And then in about 1800, it starts to spike and then it goes exponential.

00:20:39.000 And the reason for that is because of the growth of free markets and the recognition that decentralized control of economies is better than centralized control of economies.

00:20:46.000 And yet, here you have people who should know that, and they are acting in precisely the opposite way.

00:20:50.000 If you give us power, then we can cram that down on everybody else.

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00:22:56.000 It turns out that, unfortunately, the globalist elites who are doing this with the economy, they also have a set of values.

00:23:03.000 And that set of values is a moral set of values that suggests radical individualism when it comes to your personal life.

00:23:11.000 Everybody else is supposed to respect everything that you do in your personal life, no matter how crazy, bizarre, or damaging to children.

00:23:17.000 But when it comes to the economy, we ought to run everything top-down.

00:23:20.000 Because utopia really is a bunch of atomistic individuals being able to have sex with whomever they want, but controlled economically.

00:23:26.000 Because the externalities of their economic activity are bad, but there are no externalities to your personal activity.

00:23:31.000 And this brings us to the insane story of what's going on over at Vanderbilt Hospital.

00:23:36.000 So because of the investigation of our friend Matt Walsh here at Daily Wire and some of the people who work with him, Tennessee Republican Governor Bill Lee has now called for an investigation of the pediatric transgender clinic at Vanderbilt University Medical Center.

00:23:48.000 This comes after shocking videos were posted by Matt Walsh detailing a doctor's promotion of the big moneymaker transgender surgeries.

00:23:55.000 The videos also show apparent threats made against medical professionals at Vanderbilt University Medical Center if they objected to the procedures, even for religious reasons.

00:24:03.000 And it really is stunning material.

00:24:05.000 So, for example, Vanderbilt openly says they have individuals, they've worked on individuals who begin gender-affirming hormones at the age of 13.

00:24:14.000 And this, it says this on their website, quote, previously recommended start at age 16, but consider starting as early as 14 years old.

00:24:21.000 By gender-affirming hormones, what we mean here is sex-altering hormones, or at least secondary sex-characteristic-altering hormones, since you can't actually alter your sex.

00:24:30.000 So these are sterilizing hormones that have irreversible effects on children, and it's being promoted openly by Vanderbilt University Medical Center.

00:24:37.000 Continue pubertal blockers.

00:24:38.000 Fertility preservation and consent prior to initiation.

00:24:42.000 I assume that by fertility preservation, they mean harvesting eggs or harvesting sperm from people who are then going to be made sterile.

00:24:49.000 Meanwhile, you have a doctor named Vanderbilt's Shailene Vanderblommen saying that they do perform double mastectomies on adolescent girls.

00:24:57.000 And this is a set of values here.

00:24:59.000 Here is Shailene Vander... Vanderblommen explaining.

00:25:04.000 So when we talk about the WPATH guidelines, so in order for our patients to really successfully undergo these surgeries, we do again follow these guidelines.

00:25:15.000 So a lot of times it's for insurance purposes, but again, Insurance is kind of follow suit with the WPAP guidelines for the most part.

00:25:23.000 So for any kind of top surgery, we do require one letter of persistent well-documented gender dysphoria by a licensed mental health provider.

00:25:33.000 We ensure that the patient is capable of making fully informed decisions on their own.

00:25:38.000 They're the age majority.

00:25:40.000 However, for a lot of our younger patients, again, If they are 16, 17, here at Vanderbilt, if they have been on testosterone, have a parental consent, we're able to do a lot of the top surgeries for those patients.

00:25:57.000 Again, you're talking about the excision of healthy breast tissue from young girls.

00:26:02.000 That's what we're talking about here.

00:26:03.000 And they're relying on the WPATH guidelines.

00:26:05.000 WPATH is an extremist organization that does not base itself in science.

00:26:08.000 It's a propaganda organization on behalf of transing the children. 0.99

00:26:11.000 Meanwhile, you have Dr. Shane Taylor over at Vanderbilt University Medical Center, who is saying pretty openly when this transgender center opened at Vanderbilt, this is a real moneymaker. 0.96

00:26:19.000 They make a bunch of money off of this.

00:26:22.000 Surgeries make a lot of money.

00:26:24.000 So, female to male chest reconstruction can bring in $40,000.

00:26:30.000 A patient just on routine hormone treatment, who I'm only seeing a few times a year, can bring in several thousand dollars.

00:26:37.000 So that requires a lot of visits and labs. It actually makes money for the hospital.

00:26:40.000 And then the female to male bottom surgeries, these are huge money makers.

00:26:45.000 Again, I think this has to be an underestimate that they're voting around $20,000 for a phalloplasty.

00:26:50.000 There's been different things that I've read that said it could be up to $100,000.

00:26:54.000 Dr. Winokur, who's our surgeon, said that there's entire clinics where the entire clinic is supported just by their phalloplasties.

00:27:02.000 And that is like a fraction of the surgeries that they're doing. 0.89

00:27:06.000 So much money to be made in carving the flesh off of a young girl's forearms or the interior of her thigh and forming a fake non-working penis. 0.98

00:27:15.000 So much money to be made. 0.99

00:27:16.000 But this is moral, according to, again, our great elites, our great moral elites.

00:27:22.000 Christina Buttons reporting for DailyWire.com.

00:27:24.000 Remember, WPATH is the group that keeps being cited here by all of these medical centers.

00:27:28.000 And WPATH is, again, a propaganda organization that routinely ignores actual evidence in favor of things that are just not true so that we can trans the kids.

00:27:36.000 According to DailyWire, an author of the leading transgender health association's new guidelines for adolescents revealed they have called child protective services on uncooperative parents who did not affirm their child's newly chosen transgender identity.

00:27:47.000 The World Professional Association for Transgender Health held a session on the adolescent chapter during their annual conference on Monday.

00:27:52.000 It was live-streamed online.

00:27:53.000 Dr. Wren Massey, a trans-identified female clinical child psychologist from Atlanta, Georgia, revealed during a Q&A that calling CPS is a resource for clinicians to enforce the need for affirmation by parents.

00:28:03.000 Massey goes so far as to suggest that merely informing parents a call to CPS can be made might be enough to pressure them to cooperate.

00:28:10.000 The Daily Wire previously reported that the 8th edition guidelines from WPATH indicated that the state may be unable to intervene in order to assist with the child's transition if parents do not affirm their child's newly chosen identity.

00:28:20.000 Massey said, quote, I had to make a child, make a call to Child Protective Services on a case.

00:28:24.000 And the Child Protective Services worker asked me about if some of the issues I was calling about were about the parents not being supportive or being emotionally abusive around gender identity issues.

00:28:33.000 And apparently Massey was surprised, pleasantly, that CPS workers in Georgia had intervened in instances where parents were hesitant to pretend that their child was a member of the opposite sex.

00:28:43.000 She said, that was educative for me to learn that in my conservative state there are at least some CPS workers who are willing to enforce the need for affirmation by parents, at least with social transition needs, names, pronouns, etc.

00:28:52.000 So that may be a resource in states, provinces, regions, and countries around the world. 0.71

00:28:57.000 Again, call Child Protective Services if the parents refuse to go along with the nonsense garbage that a boy can be a girl and a girl can be a boy.

00:29:05.000 These are values that are now being promoted, again, by elites in our society who don't actually have to live with the consequences of this stuff. 0.97

00:29:12.000 Because they don't care.

00:29:13.000 I mean, many of them are not only involved in making money from this sort of activity, many of them themselves identify as transgender and therefore they have a rather large political stake in this entire game.

00:29:26.000 But when you have a, again, a global elite, and that elite starts in the West, trying to impose those values, not just in the West, but also all the way around the world, what you end up with is something really ugly, a cultural and economic imperialism that is disconnected from the values of people who live in other countries, as well as the interests of people who live in other countries.

00:29:45.000 Now, last week, I played you a clip of Christiane Amanpour grilling the new president of Kenya over transgender policy in Kenya, and this is how our globalist elites think.

00:29:53.000 They believe that the values that they learned in their Ivy League schools, that are completely disconnected from traditional morality.

00:29:59.000 Because again, traditional morality is evolutionary in nature.

00:30:02.000 And these people are not evolutionary in nature, they are revolutionary in nature.

00:30:05.000 They believe that the burden of proof, in terms of morality, lies with people who are advocates of traditional morality.

00:30:11.000 It does not lie with them to explain why we ought to change basic definitions of sex.

00:30:14.000 It lies with you to find why we ought to maintain basic definitions of sex.

00:30:18.000 And even if you have a good argument, we just ignore it and pretend you're a bigot.

00:30:21.000 That basic notion, which unfortunately exists among a lot of very high IQ people.

00:30:26.000 I know because I went to school with a lot of very, very high IQ people.

00:30:28.000 Many of these people were friends and colleagues.

00:30:31.000 There's a notion that if you have very high IQ, you can explain everything in the world.

00:30:34.000 Everything is explicable.

00:30:35.000 And so when it comes to economics, this means that you can reshape world systems because after all, you're really, really smart. 0.99

00:30:41.000 You're smarter than all those dullard plumbers out there. 1.00

00:30:43.000 You're smarter than the first hundred names in the Boston phone book. 1.00

00:30:45.000 You're smarter than all those people.

00:30:46.000 So you can remake the global economy in your image, knowing what's best for everyone.

00:30:50.000 It's unbelievably paternalistic.

00:30:51.000 And the same thing is true of morality.

00:30:53.000 So the truth is we all have an innate moral sense.

00:30:55.000 Not only do we have an innate moral sense, we also have thousands of years of transmitted wisdom tested over time.

00:31:02.000 This is mostly how we live in a moral level.

00:31:04.000 You do things every single day on a moral level that you cannot justify.

00:31:08.000 Now, you do things on a moral level every single day that you have inherited because they work, because these are practices that work.

00:31:14.000 But if asked to justify those tabula rasa, like explain why, for example, there's something morally wrong with eating a corpse, try to explain it.

00:31:23.000 Well, based on the Western notions of consent alone, there's nothing wrong with eating a corpse.

00:31:26.000 This is a point Jonathan Haidt has made.

00:31:28.000 Jonathan Haidt, the social psychologist from NYU, he points out that for liberals, for people who are on the left, They believe that because the only value is consent, because they basically assume that people are disembodied spirits wandering around out there, it's very weird.

00:31:44.000 Because of this, they believe that the only value is consent, and then they don't actually define consent properly, which is why they have real trouble drawing lines as to where the line of consent is for, say, teenagers.

00:31:54.000 Because of that, liberals will literally shift their positions on things like cannibalizing the dead.

00:32:00.000 He's done polls of college students, and what he finds is that for college students who identify as left, if you press them on, for example, is incest wrong, Explain why.

00:32:11.000 And you say, it's not for reproductive purposes, right?

00:32:13.000 You can't have some sort of utilitarian opposition to incest in which you explain that people shouldn't have two-headed babies because it's bad for the world and it's bad for the baby.

00:32:20.000 If you say, okay, you're just talking about sterile sex between siblings, people on the left have a very, very difficult time explaining why that is wrong.

00:32:26.000 People on the right just say, you know what?

00:32:27.000 I don't have to explain why that's wrong.

00:32:28.000 It's wrong.

00:32:29.000 I don't have to come up with some highfalutin theory about social pressure and power imbalance.

00:32:33.000 I can just say it's a wrong thing.

00:32:35.000 I know it's a wrong thing because we have thousands of years of tradition demonstrating that this is a wrong thing.

00:32:40.000 But for the people who are very high IQ and believe that the world should be remade in their own image, anything that they cannot rationalize, tabula rasa, therefore becomes immoral.

00:32:49.000 It's not just that it's something we shouldn't accept.

00:32:52.000 It becomes actively immoral.

00:32:53.000 It is an effect of bigotry.

00:32:55.000 It is simply that you have ingrained notions about human behavior that are rooted in discrimination.

00:33:01.000 That's why you believe all of these things.

00:33:02.000 And so this is all of a piece.

00:33:04.000 And the idea that you get to blow up an evolutionary global economy that, again, has evolved over time because of the desires of billions of people being input into the pricing system, that you can overthrow that because you can't explain it.

00:33:15.000 You don't know how it works.

00:33:16.000 It's too complicated for you.

00:33:18.000 When it comes to the pricing system, you just have to accept that people have different priorities about what things cost and what things should cost.

00:33:24.000 But you don't want to accept that, because you can't rationalize it.

00:33:26.000 And so because you can't rationalize it, you get to remake it.

00:33:28.000 The same thing is true of morality.

00:33:30.000 Because you can't rationalize most of the moral, most of the moral sensations that you have, because you cannot rationalize.

00:33:37.000 Data-driven, right?

00:33:38.000 Again, thousands of years of transmitted wisdom.

00:33:39.000 Because you can't rationalize that from your own mind, because you come from a set of values that you have decided on yourself.

00:33:45.000 This means that you can overthrow it.

00:33:48.000 And so the real imperialism these days is coming from people who believe that centralized power ought to lie with them and that there is no chain of generations, no wisdom that has been passed down.

00:33:56.000 There is no broad world out there that transmits wisdom through a decentralized and highly complex system.

00:34:04.000 None of that matters.

00:34:04.000 What matters is what's in your head.

00:34:07.000 Because you are so smart.

00:34:08.000 And because you are so smart, this is why you get to cram that down on everybody else because you know what is best for them.

00:34:14.000 And if that means silencing people, you'll silence people.

00:34:16.000 This is why, for example, as Andrew Follett is reporting over at National Review, Nature Magazine is now demanding that only science compatible with an ideological, fashionable worldview be published.

00:34:25.000 They are now actively suppressing science.

00:34:27.000 A recent volume of Nature Human Behavior says, quote, Although academic freedom is fundamental, it is not unbounded.

00:34:32.000 For example, research may inadvertently stigmatize individuals or human groups.

00:34:36.000 In a Nature News feature last week, the author worried, quote, A new ultra-conservative supermajority on the United States' top court is undermining science's role in informing public policy.

00:34:44.000 Scholars fear that results could be disastrous for public health, justice, and democracy itself.

00:34:49.000 The recent issue of Nature Human Behavior says, quote, Science has for too long been complicit in perpetuating structural inequalities and discrimination in societies.

00:34:58.000 They now say that they are going to repudiate any research that, quote, promotes privileged exclusionary perspectives.

00:35:02.000 But of course, this is the most privileged exclusionary perspective.

00:35:05.000 You get to decide which science is acceptable and which science is not.

00:35:10.000 When we are talking about people who are wielding outsized power on behalf of a very minority worldview, this is the people you're talking about. 0.95

00:35:15.000 We are so smart that we know what is equitable and what is just and what is true, and we will not allow a decentralized system of science to abide.

00:35:22.000 That cannot happen.

00:35:23.000 We can't allow that to spread because that's outside of our control.

00:35:28.000 This bizarre notion that the quote-unquote smartest people out there, and we know they're the smartest because they've succeeded in a system that they then despise, that those smartest people then get to remake the system in their own image and destroy the institutions that made them wealthy and successful in the first place.

00:35:44.000 That is the true danger to the growth and flourishing of Western civilization, and yes, the planet, more generally speaking.

00:35:52.000 It is a serious problem.

00:35:54.000 It also happens to be that these people are very unconcerned with the actual effects of their policies on everyday lives.

00:36:00.000 Because after all, when you have utopia in your head, everybody else is either a tool or an obstacle.

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00:38:58.000 So when we speak of a group of elite people who are utterly disconnected from the implications of their own policy, obviously this applies to the Biden administration when it comes to illegal immigration.

00:39:07.000 Joe Biden's absolute lack of care for the people living along the border who have to undergo the travail of integrating hundreds of thousands, millions of people every year on the border because he refuses to do his job and actually close the border.

00:39:22.000 It's an astonishing thing.

00:39:23.000 It really is amazing.

00:39:25.000 So, for example, Joe Biden yesterday did an interview.

00:39:28.000 Well, actually, he did a press conference.

00:39:29.000 And at this press conference, he suggested he's doing his best to stop the flow.

00:39:32.000 He said this while clutching his binder, which is always a sign of mental health.

00:39:36.000 Here was the president of the United States.

00:39:38.000 What's on my watch now is Venezuela, Cuba, and Nicaragua.

00:39:44.000 And the ability to send them back to those states is not rational.

00:39:49.000 You could send them back and have them wait.

00:39:50.000 We're working with Mexico and other countries to see if we can stop the flow.

00:39:54.000 But that's the difference.

00:39:57.000 Oh, so they're doing an amazing job.

00:39:58.000 And then he, like, tries to run from the room.

00:40:00.000 But somebody asks him about Ron DeSantis sending illegal immigrants to Delaware so that Joe Biden can actually see what illegal immigration looks like and not foist it off on a bunch of people who he's never seen, doesn't care about, and Kamala Harris has never visited the border, his borders are.

00:40:12.000 And here was Joe Biden's absolutely cavalier response.

00:40:16.000 Do you have any comment or response to that, sir?

00:40:21.000 He should come visit.

00:40:23.000 We have a beautiful show.

00:40:26.000 He should come visit.

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00:40:28.000 By the way, Governor DeSantis should visit Delaware.

00:40:30.000 He should travel to Delaware with the woman who was in a commercial yesterday, released by the Florida governor, talking about how one of her relatives was murdered by an illegal immigrant.

00:40:39.000 He should go to Delaware, and he should force Joe Biden to answer questions about why he maintains the worst border policy I've ever seen in my life, and statistically speaking, the worst border policy in American history.

00:40:39.000 He should.

00:40:48.000 We have 2 million people who are going to enter the United States over the course of the last year illegally.

00:40:54.000 It could be a lot higher than that.

00:40:56.000 Depends on if you count the gotaways or not.

00:40:58.000 We've had 2 million people who have had border encounters this year.

00:41:02.000 There have been 2 million border encounters.

00:41:03.000 Some of those people may be repeats.

00:41:04.000 That's an enormous number.

00:41:07.000 And Joe Biden is laughing this off with Ron DeSantis should visit Delaware.

00:41:12.000 Meanwhile, it is now being reported that the White House is very angry at anybody who reports on this.

00:41:17.000 According to Politico, there's a tall Fox News reporter in his mid-30s with slick back hair and an air of combative indignation who's getting under the skin of some people in Joe Biden's administration.

00:41:25.000 It's not Peter Doocy.

00:41:26.000 Bill Malugan, a former local LA Emmy-winning reporter, has become a growing presence online and in broader political circles as Fox's go-to reporter at the U.S.

00:41:33.000 southern border.

00:41:34.000 He's done hundreds of television hits since joining the network last year, largely from border states where he often focuses on the historic flow of migrants that are overwhelming communities there.

00:41:42.000 In recent days, several current and former White House and administration officials expressed to West Wing Playbook They're increasing frustration with his on-air coverage, arguing there's an alarmist quality to it designed to feed political narratives rather than illuminate the actual issues feeding the migrant flow.

00:41:56.000 Last week, he was the first to break the news that Florida Governor Ron DeSantis chartered two planes to transport 50 Venezuelan migrants from Texas to Martha's Vineyard to make a political statement about immigration.

00:42:05.000 He followed up that story with appearances on Fox News Opinion Prime Time, which some of Fox's straight news reporters notably avoid, and a series of exclusives on DeSantis' escalating fight with the Biden White House over migrants.

00:42:15.000 Malugan has helped usher in a new style of coverage of the issue by the network.

00:42:18.000 He's part of a more technologically savvy generation of Fox reporters and producers Whose work leans more heavily on on-the-ground reporting augmented by soaring aerial drone footage of migrants crossing the border.

00:42:27.000 The technique gives the story a dramatic visual scale Fox pundits use to bolster their arguments about the enormity of the problem.

00:42:32.000 Oh, so the problem is how that information is being used.

00:42:34.000 It's not that it's false.

00:42:36.000 It's that it might lend credence to the argument that Joe Biden doesn't care about the border and has left it wide open.

00:42:42.000 As Malugan has become an increasingly visible figure on the network, his coverage has caught the attention of the White House, which has become increasingly irritated by his report.

00:42:48.000 Wait, I was informed reliably by sources that when Donald Trump attacked the press, it was an attack on freedom of the press and therefore on our democracy.

00:42:56.000 When this White House sends out unnamed sources to Politico to rip a reporter for, you know, just sending a drone over the border to show how many people are crossing the Rio Grande illegally, then the White House is very mad about it and it's totally fine.

00:43:08.000 During a press conference last week, Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre noted Fox News got the heads up on Martha's Vineyard before local, state, and federal agencies.

00:43:16.000 One administration official who used to work on immigration issues told the West Wing Playbook the Biden team has complained about the lack of nuance in the network's coverage.

00:43:23.000 Oh, well, as we all know, the media are on the left are completely nuanced about border.

00:43:29.000 I mean, it's not as though they are complaining right now in the media that that Ron DeSantis sending 50 people on an air conditioned charter flight to Martha's Vineyard, maybe the most beautiful spot in the United States this time of year.

00:43:39.000 It's not like they're comparing that to the Holocaust on network news.

00:43:42.000 But, you know, it's the nuance.

00:43:44.000 That's what they're really upset about over at the White House.

00:43:47.000 So these elitists are more concerned about how they are being covered than they are about the actual problem of a vast wave of illegal immigrants washing across the American border.

00:43:59.000 That's what they're worried about.

00:44:00.000 That's what they're really, really upset about.

00:44:02.000 This is how you end up with Jon Stewart, right?

00:44:04.000 Who's the new moral imprimatur of the left, right?

00:44:06.000 Jon Stewart is now the most moral man in America.

00:44:08.000 They put him on the cover of magazines, even though he's well past his prime.

00:44:12.000 He's a sausage that was left out in the sun way too long. 0.96

00:44:15.000 And here is Jon Stewart explaining that the path to Republican power lies in what he calls a d***ishness.

00:44:23.000 It's very obvious at this point that the path to Republican power lies in And there I don't know that there is a political platform or an ideology other than and you know this stunt did exactly what he wanted it to do which is

00:44:45.000 Jumped his profile, made him a hero amongst those for whom is one of the sole characteristics that they're looking for in their leaders.

00:44:57.000 It probably angered Trump because nobody's going to be a bigger than me.

00:45:03.000 Like this is going to be, imagine the season that we're in where they are trying to one up each other in utter cruelty.

00:45:15.000 It's about the cruelty.

00:45:16.000 Now, it doesn't matter again that we have thousands of migrants who are dying every year because of the open border policy.

00:45:20.000 It doesn't matter that we had 53 people die in Bexar County in Texas in the back of a truck because of this border policy.

00:45:26.000 The real problem is if you oppose Joe Biden's agenda, then you must be an emissary of d*****ness, according to Jon Stewart.

00:45:32.000 Because again, oppose the global elites and you are opposing the collective intelligence of the smartest people on planet Earth.

00:45:37.000 It doesn't matter that their policies are failing, that they've really hurt an enormous number of Americans culturally, economically, And physically in many cases, that doesn't matter.

00:45:46.000 The smartest people are in charge.

00:45:47.000 And if you doubt the smartest people, then you're the one who really needs to be put down.

00:45:51.000 Alrighty guys, the rest of the show is continuing.

00:45:52.000 Now you're not going to want to miss it.

00:45:53.000 We're going to be getting more into the fight between Ron DeSantis and Joe Biden.

00:45:58.000 We're also going to be getting into the bizarre fight inside the White House about whether COVID is over or not.

The Ben Shapiro Show - September 21, 2022

The New Imperialists Are Globalist Elites | Ep. 1579

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