The Ben Shapiro Show - The Parasites Who Want To Run America

00:00:00.000 Already, folks, a ton to get to on today's show.

00:00:03.000 The new frontrunner in the New York mayoral race is like an actual communist.

00:00:07.000 Plus, continued riots in Los Angeles.

00:00:09.000 Is Gavin Newsom the new frontrunner?

00:00:11.000 And what the hell is going on in the Middle East where the United States is removing staffers from embassies is something big in the works.

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00:00:38.000 Well, folks, we leave the show today with a tragic story.

00:00:41.000 Apparently, a plane, a Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner, an Air India plane carrying 242 people, crashed just after taking off from an airport in Ahmedabad, India.

00:00:51.000 On Thursdays, according to Daily Wire, it was headed to the Gatwick Airport.

00:00:54.000 In Britain, the aircraft apparently crashed into a civilian area near the airport, striking a doctor's hostel at a medical college.

00:01:02.000 Apparently, of the 242 people on board, 11 were children.

00:01:05.000 Most of the passengers were Indian.

00:01:06.000 There were 53 British citizens, 7 Portuguese, 1 Canadian.

00:01:10.000 There are videos that have been circulating on X, and you can see the plane slowly descending over the residential area before it disappears, and then you can see the explosion in the video.

00:01:19.000 According to the earlier reports, no survivors at this point will bring you more details.

00:01:23.000 As this tragic situation becomes clearer.

00:01:26.000 Well, folks, Democrats have been wondering about what happened to their party.

00:01:30.000 Why is it that Donald Trump has been elected twice in a three-election span?

00:01:33.000 Why is it that the Democrats are currently riding in the 20 percentage mark with regard to their popularity in American life?

00:01:40.000 Where did Democrats go wrong? 0.55

00:01:42.000 Well, I wish to show you a clip from one of the protests in Los Angeles that says so much about why Democrats are losing support nearly everywhere.

00:01:51.000 This clip comes courtesy of an account called Frontlines TPUSA.

00:01:54.000 And it is a clip of two white people.

00:01:58.000 One is a man-bunned soy boy and a middle-aged, short, haircutted woman. 0.75

00:02:05.000 And they're confronting a younger black woman who's attempting to go to work. 0.81

00:02:09.000 All she wants to do is get to her job.

00:02:11.000 She says she has kids at home.

00:02:12.000 All she wants to do is get to her job.

00:02:13.000 And these people, on their bicycles, carrying their energy beverages.

00:02:18.000 Are standing there obstructing her ability to get to work because they are protesting President Trump's immigration policies.

00:02:24.000 And here's how the exchange goes.

00:02:54.000 You're not gonna block people from going to work?

00:02:56.000 Look at this violence you guys are causing.

00:02:58.000 I'm not causing no problems.

00:02:59.000 I'm not trying to, we're just trying to leave.

00:03:01.000 Thank you.

00:03:03.000 Okay, so that guy's perspective, which is incredible.

00:03:06.000 And again, you can see behind him people carrying signs with Palestinian flags and Mexican flags and all the rest of it.

00:03:14.000 This white guy telling...

00:03:18.000 And then when he is asked by a reporter on the scene, why don't you worry about this woman being able to get to work?

00:03:24.000 He says, oh no, work.

00:03:26.000 Oh no, work. 1.00

00:03:28.000 These folks are leeches on the ass of American society. 1.00

00:03:31.000 That's what they are. 1.00

00:03:32.000 You want to talk about white privilege?

00:03:33.000 That right there is white privilege in a nutshell.

00:03:36.000 This person should be on every Republican commercial for the next 20 years.

00:03:39.000 Oh no, work.

00:03:40.000 Man Bun McBicycle over there, who is telling the young black woman with kids at home, That it is not important if she goes to work because he has a political point to make. 0.98

00:03:49.000 And that means that she has to be stuck in traffic for hours on end while he stands there mentally masturbating. 0.99

00:03:57.000 It's unbelievable. 0.72

00:03:58.000 But this is so much of the left wing right now.

00:04:01.000 Because when you look at the figures who are being put forward by the left as the most salient, the most important, the most brilliant thinkers, the people who need to lead the country, they're all from Man Bun McSoy Boy's neck of the woods.

00:04:14.000 All of them.

00:04:15.000 The AOC self-congratulatory Democratic Socialists of America wing of the Democratic Party, people who have barely held a job, a huge percentage of them have gotten a college education on the dime of their parents.

00:04:30.000 Most of them are white.

00:04:31.000 The vast majority of them are white.

00:04:33.000 And they are taking over the Democratic Party, particularly in the primaries.

00:04:36.000 One of the things that has broken the country, truly, is the primary process in both parties.

00:04:43.000 But largely in the Democratic Party.

00:04:45.000 That primary process, which said that the most motivated left-wingers are going to decide who the nominees are, that has completely skewed the nature of American politics.

00:04:55.000 And as the left has gotten more censorious, they've pushed more and more people over to the right.

00:04:58.000 You wonder why President Trump has made gains with virtually every minority group in America.

00:05:02.000 The reason is because you have a bunch of privileged white people who don't have to have jobs in the middle of the day and can therefore march for their quote-unquote values.

00:05:12.000 While holding up people who need to get to work from getting to work.

00:05:16.000 That divide is the whole thing in a nutshell.

00:05:18.000 And it's not just materializing in Los Angeles and California, as we'll talk about in a few minutes.

00:05:23.000 It is also materializing in New York.

00:05:25.000 So there's a brand new poll showing that the new frontrunner in the New York mayoral primary is not Andrew Cuomo, the disgraced former governor who's now running for mayor in New York.

00:05:39.000 Again, he was not a good governor, ended up being ousted from office.

00:05:42.000 Over a relatively sketchy sexual harassment claim.

00:05:47.000 But he was leading in the mayoral race, in this mayoral primary.

00:05:50.000 Eric Adams, who was a Democrat, is now running as an independent.

00:05:53.000 The new frontrunner is a person named Zoran Mamdani.

00:05:57.000 According to a new poll by Public Policy Polling, the poll shows Mamdani now beating Cuomo 35% to 31%.

00:06:07.000 Cuomo has been the constant frontrunner, according to Politico, since his March 1st entrance into the race to oust Mayor Eric Adams, with most publicly released polls showing him with comfortable leads.

00:06:15.000 The new survey, which should not include a ranked choice voting simulation, so there's a ranked choice voting process in New York.

00:06:22.000 The way the ranked choice voting works in the city of New York is that there are five slots for you to rank your candidates, like one, two, three, four, five, in order of preference.

00:06:29.000 If a candidate wins more than 50% of the vote, that candidate immediately is declared the primary winner, and that person becomes the Democratic candidate.

00:06:37.000 If nobody wins 50%, then the person who's lowest on the totem pole gets knocked out.

00:06:42.000 And so if you had ranked that person number one, then that ranking now goes away.

00:06:45.000 And whoever is your number two becomes number one for purposes of the voting.

00:06:50.000 So it's unclear how that's going to shake out.

00:06:52.000 It makes the process a lot more complicated.

00:06:54.000 With that said, the poll of 573 likely Democratic voters was conducted between June 6th and June 7th after that first televised debate, which was a complete bleep show.

00:07:04.000 The following day, AOC endorsed.

00:07:06.000 Momdani.

00:07:07.000 39% of the poll's responses came from landline, 61% from text messages.

00:07:12.000 That's a methodology that obviously is going to favor Momdani because the people who support this guy are a bunch of white privileged lib college students.

00:07:19.000 That is his base.

00:07:21.000 Now there's a Cuomo campaign poll that was conducted earlier this week and found Cuomo ahead 56 to 44. That'd be after eight rounds of voting, eliminating all the other candidates.

00:07:32.000 There's another poll from Data for Progress.

00:07:36.000 And that found Cuomo only up by two after eight rounds.

00:07:39.000 Bottom line is this is now a two-person race between Andrew Cuomo, who again was responsible for the COVID policy that ended with lots of old people in lots of old age homes dead of COVID.

00:07:49.000 And shockingly, he is not the worst candidate.

00:07:52.000 The worst candidate by far is Mamdani.

00:07:54.000 So who exactly is Zoran Mamdani?

00:07:57.000 He's a state lawmaker from Queens.

00:07:59.000 He's an open democratic socialist.

00:08:02.000 And he is, again, one of these privileged, Highly educated people who is completely disconnected from real life, completely disconnected.

00:08:10.000 He is the son of a Hollywood director and a college professor at Columbia University.

00:08:18.000 And this person who is 33 and has never held a real job, apparently, he full-on believes every left-wing, far-left trope you can possibly imagine.

00:08:28.000 And this person could be the next mayor of New York.

00:08:30.000 By the polling data, he's at least running close to even with Cuomo.

00:08:33.000 And if he's the Democratic candidate for mayor, then it would be up to Eric Adams to beat him as an independent.

00:08:38.000 And Eric Adams has his own set of issues, ranging from the criminal indictment that was originally brought against him and then tossed to his sort of, shall we say, colorful manner of leading the city of New York.

00:08:50.000 Alrighty, folks, in just a few minutes, we're going to get to Dr. Phil, who's actually in the ICE ride-along.

00:08:54.000 That turned into the L.A. riots.

00:08:56.000 We'll get to that in a moment.

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00:10:54.000 So what are Mamdani's beliefs?

00:10:56.000 Well, he says in an interview with the New York Times this week that the best mayor of New York City in his lifetime is Bill de Blasio.

00:11:04.000 Literally the worst mayor of New York City in modern history, Bill de Blasio.

00:11:08.000 That's his favorite.

00:11:10.000 He also suggests, for example, that there ought to be city-run grocery stores.

00:11:17.000 Because the problem with grocery stores, they operated a profit motive.

00:11:20.000 So he's a full-scale Bernie Sanders nutcase.

00:11:22.000 Here's Zarin Mamdani talking about city-owned grocery stores and why those are better than, you know, profit-driven grocery stores, the kind of things that have provided food to Americans at a rate unseen in all of human history.

00:11:36.000 We will redirect city funds from corporate supermarkets to city-owned grocery stores, whose mission is lower prices, not price gouging.

00:11:45.000 These stores will operate without a profit motive or having to pay property taxes or rent, and we'll pass on those savings to you.

00:11:53.000 That's not how that works.

00:11:55.000 That is not how that works.

00:11:56.000 The Soviet Union tried to operate, quote-unquote, stores without profit motive.

00:11:59.000 And you know what ends up happening?

00:12:01.000 Misallocation of resources.

00:12:03.000 What ends up happening is shortages.

00:12:05.000 Because the profit motive is what determines how you control supply, what you are going to bring into the grocery store, and what you are not.

00:12:13.000 Like, that's crazy towns.

00:12:15.000 City-owned grocery stores is his solution to the problem of high cost of living.

00:12:19.000 He says openly, by the way, that he's fighting for socialism.

00:12:22.000 And when he says socialism, he means socialism.

00:12:24.000 He doesn't just mean like Norway.

00:12:25.000 He means socialism, socialism.

00:12:27.000 Here is Mamdani talking about fighting for socialism.

00:12:29.000 Where we have to make it very clear that people cannot eat words.

00:12:35.000 People need to have actual food.

00:12:37.000 People need to have actual houses to live in.

00:12:38.000 People need to have actual schools that they can go to.

00:12:40.000 And I think it's so critical that this journey into understanding the way in which we should relate to power, this journey and understanding that it is socialism that we are fighting for, is a journey that should begin as soon as possible for every single person in this country and in this world.

00:12:54.000 Thank you.

00:12:55.000 How radical is Zoran Mamdani?

00:12:58.000 He said in 2020, That the New York Police Department, that is in 2020, while the riots were going on, should be removed from high crime areas.

00:13:04.000 Again, these are luxury beliefs.

00:13:05.000 These are beliefs that nobody who actually lives on the ground in New York City holds, except for white libs and their allies. 0.99

00:13:14.000 Mamdani isn't white, but his voting base is predominantly white.

00:13:17.000 The New York Times even asked him about his voting base and the fact that they are predominantly white.

00:13:21.000 Quote, the polls show you're doing really well with younger, whiter, more progressive voters.

00:13:25.000 Why do you think you're having a harder time with voters of color?

00:13:27.000 We seem to be supporting former Governor Cuomo, says the New York Times.

00:13:31.000 And then he suggests that it's just because the vast majority of New Yorkers have yet to tune in to the race.

00:13:35.000 And he says the polling obscures Asian New Yorkers who are not listed as a category.

00:13:40.000 Yeah, that's not why, my dude.

00:13:42.000 The answer is because the luxury beliefs that are held by white college-educated liberals are at complete odds with reality.

00:13:48.000 And it's all about, for them, the value signaling.

00:13:51.000 Do you need to even work, bro?

00:13:53.000 Who cares about your work, bro, your job, your community, your safety?

00:13:57.000 What really matters that you're holding the right lawn sign.

00:14:00.000 Here's Zoran Mamdani talking about how the police should be defunded in 2020.

00:14:04.000 money.

00:14:05.000 Thank you.

00:14:05.000 I absolutely think that what we need to do is give support and funding to institutions that are trained to deal with these kinds of issues.

00:14:14.000 As you said, if you're having an argument with someone and there's a risk of it escalating.

00:14:19.000 Who is better positioned to de-escalate it?

00:14:21.000 Someone who is well-known in the community, or someone who has been trained specifically in de-escalation, or a stranger who has a gun?

00:14:29.000 And we see so many situations where encounters with police, the police arrive, and all of a sudden the tension rises even astronomically to what it was prior.

00:14:40.000 And I think that we need to say and ask ourselves, look at how policing is done in the suburbs.

00:14:47.000 In wealthier, whiter America.

00:14:49.000 When people make mistakes, the answer is not to throw them in jail.

00:14:53.000 The answer is not to, you know, put them in a cage and throw away the key.

00:14:57.000 The answer is to try and find a non-carceral solution.

00:15:01.000 Absolutely.

00:15:02.000 Community service, something where, you know, they learn from their mistakes, there's a sense of accountability and growth, all these kinds of things, which for many people in this country, especially black people, are not offered the same opportunity.

00:15:16.000 Then why aren't black people supporting him?

00:15:18.000 I am in favor of defunding the police.

00:15:25.000 Okay, that's the guy who's on the verge of becoming mayor of New York City, the most populous city in the United States.

00:15:31.000 That guy.

00:15:32.000 That's the one.

00:15:33.000 This is how off the rails the Democratic Party is.

00:15:36.000 And again, Mamdani is a representation in human form of the Omni Clause. 0.95

00:15:43.000 Of this idea that the left-wing agglomeration of grievances amounts to one giant cause.

00:15:49.000 Here he was in February 2024, screaming about genocide while wearing a keffiyeh. 0.92

00:15:53.000 It has been four months of protesting a genocide.

00:15:57.000 It has become harder and harder to wake up every morning Now, it's this guy, right?

00:16:08.000 This is the one.

00:16:09.000 He is one of these rioters, one of these protesters.

00:16:12.000 That is his ideology.

00:16:13.000 That is where he stands.

00:16:14.000 And he's on the verge of becoming New York City mayor.

00:16:16.000 The question is not why people like Mamdani exist.

00:16:18.000 We know why.

00:16:19.000 They've been churned out by the university system, by a far left in this country that is taking control of the commanding heights of American popular culture and education and the media.

00:16:28.000 That is why.

00:16:29.000 That is where he is coming from.

00:16:30.000 And yes, some of these people are imported from other countries and then indoctrinated with left-wing values from the centers that were originally created in order to promote American values.

00:16:41.000 And civilization within an American context.

00:16:44.000 But wherever they came from, they certainly have gained extraordinary power within the Democratic Party.

00:16:50.000 And that's why more and more Americans are disillusioned with the Democratic Party.

00:16:54.000 I mean, here's Mamdani shouting about the workers' struggle.

00:16:59.000 Tell me the difference between Zoran Mamdani and Greta Thunberg.

00:17:01.000 Seriously, like name one political difference between the obnoxious Swedish woman child and Zoran Mamdani, obnoxious. 1.00

00:17:13.000 A union that understands that the workers' struggle is a global struggle.

00:17:18.000 And I will come to this site fighting for workers in New York City and standing side by side with workers wearing kafiyas, understanding that that fight is a fight from here to Palestine.

00:17:30.000 Like, what the hell is he talking about?

00:17:32.000 He's talking to UAW workers on strike about Palestine and kafiyas.

00:17:37.000 Right?

00:17:37.000 Because that is the whole thing.

00:17:39.000 As I've been saying, the new book that I have coming out, Lions and Scavengers, which is largely about the conflict between people who wish for success and a system that promotes success and meritocracy and people who are aggrieved by that system in which to tear that down.

00:17:54.000 That is what we are watching in a nutshell.

00:17:56.000 We're watching it in the riots in LA.

00:17:57.000 We're going to see it on the streets all across the United States this Saturday, which we'll get to in just a moment.

00:18:04.000 And this is why Gavin Newsom, has now become a quasi-frontrunner for the Democratic Party in 2028.

00:18:10.000 Not because he has governed California well.

00:18:12.000 He has not governed California well.

00:18:14.000 I left California because Gavin Newsom was governing the way that he was.

00:18:19.000 California has become unlivable for people.

00:18:22.000 Truly unlivable.

00:18:23.000 The cost of living in California, it is the most expensive state in America for middle-class families.

00:18:29.000 Some estimates suggest that the cost of living in California imposes about $26,000 a year in additional costs compared to the national average.

00:18:40.000 California has spent tens of billions of dollars on homelessness.

00:18:44.000 And the homeless have washed over the entire L.A. County area.

00:18:48.000 Where I used to live, which was a nice suburb, was thoroughly honeycombed with homelessness.

00:18:54.000 Open drug use on the streets.

00:18:56.000 California's public education system has declined across every single demographic.

00:19:02.000 NEA progress scores show 72% of 8th graders failed to reach proficiency in reading in California in 2024.

00:19:08.000 That's up from 70% in 2019.

00:19:10.000 And statewide, two-thirds of students fail math standards.

00:19:14.000 More than half do not meet English standards.

00:19:17.000 Gavin Newsom's, all the crime stats in California are completely skewed because California has decided, particularly in major metros, not to count misdemeanors as crimes anymore, which is why shoplifting, for example, in San Francisco has become a way of life.

00:19:30.000 It's why everything you see at any store in San Francisco is locked up behind glass.

00:19:35.000 Because they're afraid that people are going to walk in, shoplift, and walk out, and the cops won't be able to do anything about it.

00:19:42.000 The insane welcoming of criminals to California has meant reclassification of crime and then obscuring the crime statistics.

00:19:50.000 So you'll see Gavin Newsom say the crime has declined under his watch.

00:19:54.000 The reality is that enormous swaths of crime have been reclassified from crime to not crime or from felonies to misdemeanors.

00:20:00.000 Or from second-degree misdemeanors to third-degree misdemeanors or whatever the case may be.

00:20:07.000 And all of it can be seen in people leaving the state.

00:20:09.000 Not just me and my family and my company.

00:20:12.000 Since 2019, California has lost 1.5 million residents through net domestic migration.

00:20:19.000 One and a half million people left California net.

00:20:22.000 Not gross, net, meaning that for every person who came in, Somehow, this guy is the frontrunner.

00:20:36.000 Why?

00:20:37.000 Because for the Democratic Party, it has become all about sounding off.

00:20:41.000 It's all about the performative.

00:20:42.000 It's all about the resistance.

00:20:43.000 It's not about being good at your job.

00:20:46.000 This is a big difference in the Democratic Party.

00:20:48.000 It truly is.

00:20:48.000 If you go all the way back to 1992, when Bill Clinton was running for president of the United States, one of the things that he was running on was the idea that he was a successful Capable governor of Arkansas.

00:20:59.000 Whether that's true or not, that's what he actually ran on.

00:21:01.000 That he was actually fairly decent as a governor of Arkansas.

00:21:05.000 And now it's all the performative.

00:21:07.000 It's completely performative.

00:21:08.000 It's been true since the Obama era when Barack Obama became president despite having zero record in the Senate because of his airy-fairy ideas about how international politics should work and how domestic politics needed to be kinder, gentler, and then he immediately polarized and racialized American politics.

00:21:26.000 But this is what the Democratic Party has become.

00:21:28.000 Indeed, being competent is sometimes a drawback because if you're competent, very often to be a competent Democratic governor, that means you have to be a little bit more moderate in your policies, which means you can't be as performative.

00:21:40.000 It means that you might actually have to do some things that Republicans might like from time to time.

00:21:45.000 And that invalidates you with this Democratic base that likes the Zoran Mamdani's and that yells at black people going to work. 0.84

00:21:53.000 This is why Gavin Newsom, it's an amazing thing.

00:21:55.000 Again, Gavin Newsom, if he wanted to campaign on being a great governor, successful governor of California, he could try it.

00:22:00.000 But let's be clear.

00:22:01.000 The reason that Gavin Newsom is popular right now is because Gavin Newsom is yelling at Donald Trump.

00:22:07.000 It is that simple.

00:22:08.000 You can see it.

00:22:09.000 The whole Democratic Party is this now. 0.99

00:22:10.000 Cory Booker, the ridiculous senator from New Jersey. 0.98

00:22:14.000 Mr. Potato Head. 1.00

00:22:15.000 He puts on his angry eyes for 24 hours and speaks about nothing.

00:22:19.000 And the entire Democratic Party goes, well, he's leading the resistance.

00:22:22.000 Look at the signaling.

00:22:23.000 Look at the resistance signaling.

00:22:25.000 He must be a new leader.

00:22:27.000 It's all about the talk and never about the governance.

00:22:29.000 And then you wonder why people are looking at a more pragmatic politician like Donald Trump and saying, maybe that guy.

00:22:35.000 Why the Democratic Party is at all-time lows?

00:22:37.000 Because you guys can't do the basic stuff.

00:22:39.000 You're not capable of doing the basic stuff.

00:22:42.000 But here's the kind of stuff making Gavin Newsom popular with the Democratic base for 2028 right now.

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00:24:59.000 Here he was the other day saying, Donald Trump's government is traumatizing our communities.

00:25:03.000 It seems to me that California was traumatized by you.

00:25:06.000 You're the governor.

00:25:06.000 You're the one in charge.

00:25:08.000 Why is California not a great place to live?

00:25:10.000 Why?

00:25:11.000 Donald Trump didn't have to do with that.

00:25:12.000 You had to do with that.

00:25:13.000 And him enforcing federal law and then bringing the National Guard to ensure that law enforcement officers aren't abused by rioters.

00:25:21.000 That's not Donald Trump's fault.

00:25:22.000 That's your fault.

00:25:23.000 But according to Gavin Newsom, it's all about Trump traumatizing the community.

00:25:28.000 Donald Trump's government isn't protecting our communities.

00:25:31.000 They're traumatizing our communities.

00:25:33.000 And that seems to be the entire point.

00:25:36.000 California will keep fighting.

00:25:38.000 It will keep fighting on behalf of our people, all of our people.

00:25:43.000 Just obnoxious.

00:25:44.000 And by the way, you see other prospective 2028 candidates who are now doing this routine.

00:25:49.000 So Governor Josh Shapiro of Pennsylvania, who actually is, apparently, a pretty competent governor of Pennsylvania.

00:25:56.000 I don't agree with a lot of his politics, but he is not bad at the job of being governor of Pennsylvania.

00:26:01.000 Well, Josh Shapiro, that's not enough for him.

00:26:04.000 He must signal.

00:26:05.000 He must signal his resistance membership.

00:26:07.000 So he spoke with the Washington Post and he talked about President Trump.

00:26:14.000 He said, there's no question in everything this president does, he tries to inject chaos.

00:26:18.000 He's injected chaos into the world order.

00:26:20.000 He's injected it into our economy.

00:26:22.000 He's trying to inject chaos into our streets by doing what he did with the Guard in California.

00:26:25.000 We will be prepared to make sure people can peacefully protest and that we do not have violence in our communities.

00:26:31.000 And then he said, should the guard be needed, it would be deployed at my direction following a legal process, not the way it's been done in California, which I think has been really dangerous.

00:26:38.000 So again, that is Shapiro trying to jump in on the game.

00:26:41.000 If you're a Democrat, the way you become prominent is not by being good at your job.

00:26:44.000 It's by yelling a lot and yelling a lot of impractical things.

00:26:48.000 That is the way that it is actually done.

00:26:50.000 I mean, look at Karen Bass right now.

00:26:52.000 Karen Bass is the most incompetent mayor in the country right now outside of Brandon Johnson in Chicago. 1.00

00:26:57.000 And she's getting all sorts of positive headlines from the media.

00:27:00.000 While she blames ICE for the riots, here's Karen Bass, the failed mayor of Los Angeles yesterday. 1.00

00:27:06.000 A week ago, everything was peaceful in the city of Los Angeles and in all of the representatives behind me in their cities as well.

00:27:17.000 Things began to be difficult on Friday when raids took place, and it's important that I begin there.

00:27:24.000 Because that is the cause of the problems that have happened in the city of Los Angeles and other cities.

00:27:33.000 And then Karen Bass says, well, you know, in the end, all of this is really just part of an experiment.

00:27:40.000 It's part of an experiment that's taking place in Los Angeles by the federal government, those evil, evil feds.

00:27:46.000 It is completely unnecessary.

00:27:48.000 What are they going to do?

00:27:51.000 The 100 National Guard soldiers that are downtown Los Angeles are guarding one federal building.

00:27:58.000 So there is no need for this.

00:28:00.000 The city handled things perfectly last night and will continue to do this.

00:28:04.000 I do believe, though, that this is all part of an experiment that's taking place in Los Angeles, and I hope other cities was maximizing.

00:28:11.000 I know they are because I was on line with about 50 other mayors who are concerned about what's happening in our city because it could easily come to theirs.

00:28:22.000 So, she's saying everything is peaceful, everything is fine, everything is being handled, we don't need the feds.

00:28:27.000 I'm talking to people in LAPD.

00:28:29.000 Every day I'm talking to people in LAPD, again, I have many, many friends in LAPD.

00:28:32.000 One of the things that has been happening at these protests, this happened, I know this happened, fireworks have been loaded with shrapnel and launched at officers.

00:28:41.000 And that's different from just a firework.

00:28:43.000 The firework is just gunpowder.

00:28:44.000 Firework with shrapnel inside is effectively an IED.

00:28:47.000 And some of these are being thrown at officers.

00:28:49.000 And the police officers are being given basically zero guidance by their higher-ups or from the politicians on what they are supposed to do if somebody hurls an IED at them.

00:28:58.000 Again, these are effectively military-grade small weapons.

00:29:02.000 And the police are being left out there, hanging out there to dry.

00:29:06.000 And we're being told that the failure here is the failure of the feds.

00:29:10.000 And meanwhile, Why are you so worried about work? 0.99

00:29:20.000 Those same schmucks, those same people are very much in line with the violent groups that have been hijacking these protests and using them. 0.94

00:29:31.000 There's a very bizarre phenomenon that exists in some parts of the psychology of the left that suggests that when left-wing groups get violent, It is not that what they are doing is really, truly wrong. 0.99

00:29:41.000 It's just they're too passionate.

00:29:42.000 They're just too passionate.

00:29:43.000 You know, they have too much of a head of steam.

00:29:45.000 And so if somebody, if some left winger shoots a UnitedHealthcare CEO, you know, we might not love it, but we understand where it came from.

00:29:52.000 And really, isn't he just a representative of all of our rage and all of our anger and all of our passion?

00:29:57.000 It's an amazing thing.

00:29:58.000 I don't really see a ton of that on the right as a sort of comp.

00:30:04.000 You see it occasionally, but I don't see it as sort of a thoroughgoing, philosophic issue with the right in the same way that it is with the modern Western left.

00:30:11.000 But left-wing violent groups have, in fact, been infiltrating a lot of these protests and then using them.

00:30:17.000 Report out of NBC News today.

00:30:19.000 It was approaching nightfall in Los Angeles on Sunday when black-clad demonstrators began to torch a row of self-driving Waymo taxis.

00:30:25.000 Within minutes, videos of the fiery scenes began to pop up on social media.

00:30:30.000 More, more, more, more.

00:30:31.000 A group known as Unity of Fields posted on X. Along with a video of the flaming vehicles.

00:30:35.000 The post was not an anomaly since the start of the demonstrations against immigration raids in LA.

00:30:39.000 The Unity of Fields X account has been pumping out messages urging people to wreak havoc in the streets and give them hell.

00:30:45.000 It's all part of a far-left online ecosystem that has proliferated in recent years, experts say.

00:30:50.000 Some of the groups behind the accounts express contempt for peaceful resistance and glorify acts of violence and even murder, like those of the United Healthcare CEO and two Israeli embassy staffers.

00:30:59.000 The leftist networks tend to be different from right wing groups, says this new study, in that they are typically decentralized with no leadership structures, but they are highly adept at using social media.

00:31:08.000 Some have been working hard to amplify and celebrate acts of violence protesters in L.A., Thank you.

00:31:14.000 Joel Finkelstein, co-founder of the Network Contagient Research Institute, a nonpartisan group that has done a lot of these studies, says whether they directly throw a Molotov cocktail is actually not as essential as the ecosystem of encouragement and coordination they have created.

00:31:27.000 And you can see how this stuff sort of bleeds into Everyday legacy media coverage.

00:31:33.000 So, at the same time that this violence is happening, and absolutely it is happening, you have people like Jimmy Kimmel out there basically saying it's no big deal.

00:31:40.000 Here was Jimmy Kimmel the other night saying, don't worry, the riots aren't happening.

00:31:44.000 He wants there to be a war going on here, and he doesn't care who gets hurt in it.

00:31:48.000 There's a riot outside.

00:31:50.000 We have more so-called unrest here when one of our teams wins a championship.

00:31:54.000 But that's not what you're seeing on TV.

00:31:57.000 Someone sets a fire in a garbage can, 12 camera crews go running toward it.

00:32:02.000 It's no big deal.

00:32:03.000 Again, luxury beliefs.

00:32:05.000 It is no big deal, according to Jimmy Kimmel, because Jimmy Kimmel lives in an extraordinarily expensive part of LA, I assume with private security.

00:32:12.000 And so it doesn't matter as much to him if people are torching Waymos in downtown.

00:32:17.000 Why should it?

00:32:18.000 When's the last time Jimmy Kimmel took a Waymo?

00:32:20.000 It's not a thing.

00:32:22.000 Luxury beliefs are costing Democrats the country.

00:32:26.000 And good.

00:32:26.000 I mean, really, they deserve it.

00:32:28.000 They do.

00:32:29.000 Already coming up, President Trump has a big military parade planned this weekend.

00:32:32.000 Are the leftists going to disrupt it?

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00:33:52.000 Well, joining us on the line to discuss what has been happening in L.A. and the legacy media's false coverage of what's happening in L.A., Dr. Phil McGraw.

00:34:00.000 He is now hosting Dr. Phil Primetime on his own network, Merritt Street Media, where he stands for common sense and free speech.

00:34:05.000 He was in an ICE ride-along, actually.

00:34:07.000 So, Dr. Phil, what was that like?

00:34:10.000 You were doing a ride-along with ICE when all of this started.

00:34:12.000 What was that?

00:34:15.000 Well, Ben, one thing that Tom Holman, Homeland Security and ICE want is transparency about what they're doing.

00:34:25.000 And I did interview Tom before the operation started, and I was at ICE headquarters in L.A. to talk about it before it began.

00:34:40.000 I was not embedded with the agents when they made the actual arrest, but I was with Tom.

00:34:51.000 And we hung back and let them do what they were doing.

00:34:55.000 And then we got back on the streets when the protests started.

00:35:00.000 And one of the things that I've been impacted by is how different what actually happened is with what's been reported by the legacy media.

00:35:12.000 What actually went down here is this was an interagency operation.

00:35:17.000 And not all the agencies were involved with every stop on the way, but this involved the U.S. Marshals, the FBI, ATF, ICE, and some of the other agencies.

00:35:34.000 And the one that is getting all the attention, there was a search warrant.

00:35:39.000 Issued by a federal judge.

00:35:41.000 And as you know, you have to show probable cause to get a search warrant.

00:35:45.000 And so there was a tremendous amount of evidence presented to a federal judge about this one organization that's alleged to be a criminal organization.

00:35:54.000 And the evidence suggested that they had undervalued imports $80 million or more.

00:36:02.000 Some of it counterfeit inventory that they had brought in, that they had underpaid tariffs like $17 million.

00:36:11.000 Half of their workforce were illegal immigrants.

00:36:15.000 And so they got a search warrant to go in and find out if these things, in fact, were true.

00:36:22.000 And so they executed this search warrant.

00:36:24.000 It wasn't just ICE.

00:36:26.000 And when they did, they found a lot of illegal immigrants in there.

00:36:30.000 And among those, We're drug traffickers, some with domestic violence, a 55-year-old illegal alien from the Philippines that was convicted of burglary, penetration with a foreign object, assault with an attempt to commit a Mexican national with a rap sheet that included shooting up a house and a vehicle with people inside, battery of a spouse or cohabitant.

00:36:57.000 Willful cruelty to a child, driving under the influence, assault with a semi-automatic weapon, an illegal alien from Vietnam with a criminal history that included a conviction for second-degree murder. 0.87

00:37:09.000 These were not just your moms and dads.

00:37:14.000 And look, nobody questions the humanity of some of the people that come across the border illegally, but that doesn't make them immune from the law.

00:37:24.000 So they made these orderly arrests of those people that were here illegally while they were executing the search warrant.

00:37:34.000 The IRS was involved.

00:37:36.000 They seized a lot of records, and it took seven or eight hours to process at these places.

00:37:43.000 And when they came out, people had organized protests.

00:37:48.000 And I don't think these were spontaneous.

00:37:51.000 I think they were clearly.

00:37:55.000 But look, Ben, you know, they're attacking street agents, ICE agents, throwing rocks off of overpasses, setting their cars on fire.

00:38:08.000 Do they think these agents made these laws?

00:38:10.000 I don't understand that.

00:38:13.000 And Dr. Fultz, one of the things that's really amazing about this is, as you say, the way that the legacy media portrayed the raids themselves was that the raids were essentially – And what you're saying is that that was not the purpose of the original raids in the first place.

00:38:30.000 No, it was not.

00:38:32.000 And look, this is the thing that they talk, they scare these people and say they're going to be treated horribly.

00:38:42.000 I did have an opportunity to be in the federal building when some of these people were brought in.

00:38:49.000 They are treated with dignity and respect.

00:38:52.000 They're not thrown into some overcrowded cell.

00:38:56.000 If they're hungry, they're given something to eat.

00:38:58.000 If they're thirsty, they're given something to drink.

00:39:03.000 They're given due process, and they're treated with dignity and respect.

00:39:10.000 And one of the things that's making Tom Holman want to be so transparent is they're giving people an opportunity.

00:39:19.000 to avoid all this.

00:39:20.000 You know, there is an app that ICE has where people can choose to self-deport.

00:39:25.000 They're saying, look, if you're in the country illegally and you want to self-deport, you can go to this app, you can register.

00:39:32.000 We'll give you time.

00:39:35.000 I don't know if it's 30 days, 60 days, whatever.

00:39:42.000 When they get there, they give them $1,000 to get back on their feet in the country that they came from so they can get things going again.

00:39:50.000 But look, these are laws that were passed by the elected officials of the people in the part of California that they're now doing these protests.

00:40:03.000 These laws are not suggestions.

00:40:05.000 They're not optional.

00:40:07.000 They weren't passed by the officers on the street.

00:40:10.000 They were passed by the legislators that they elected.

00:40:14.000 If they don't like them, then change the law.

00:40:17.000 I get it.

00:40:18.000 If you don't like it and maybe they're not the best laws, then change them.

00:40:22.000 But don't attack federal officers that are out there on the street or you're going to jail.

00:40:26.000 So, Dr. Phil, one of the lines that's been used by the Democrats and, again, some of the legacy media is that Really, there's nothing big going on on the streets in Los Angeles at all, that this was all ginned up by the Trump administration in order to polarize the debate, that these are all peaceful protesters, there's no violence, there's no graffiti, there's no crime actually going on, and that it's all being played up.

00:40:47.000 What did you actually see in L.A.?

00:40:49.000 Well, I can tell you that there were law enforcement vehicles that were set afire.

00:40:57.000 There were dozens of people on overpasses that were throwing.

00:41:02.000 Rocks, scooters that you can pick up and use around the city, throwing those down, breaking out windshields.

00:41:11.000 They were throwing full bottles of water at federal agents.

00:41:17.000 All kinds of projectiles, whatever they could find, hitting these people.

00:41:23.000 And look, this is assault with a deadly weapon.

00:41:27.000 They were throwing rocks as big.

00:41:35.000 I mean, as much as you get your hand around and launch, it could clearly kill somebody if they hit them in the right place.

00:41:45.000 They were setting things on fire.

00:41:47.000 Look, LA's had enough problems with fire. 0.98

00:41:50.000 You saw what happened in Altadena.

00:41:52.000 You saw what happened in the Palisades, and it's dry out there, and they're setting things on fire.

00:41:58.000 And, Ben, this is not a negotiation for justice.

00:42:01.000 This is a demand for surrender.

00:42:03.000 I heard people on loudspeakers as late as last night demanding that these people be released en masse.

00:42:11.000 That's never going to happen.

00:42:13.000 Calling for the abolishment of ICE, that's never going to happen.

00:42:17.000 What do you suppose would happen if they said, hey, okay, look, we'll just en masse release these people?

00:42:24.000 45 people, 50 people, whatever the final number is, we'll just release them en masse since you guys are upset.

00:42:34.000 That's not going to happen.

00:42:36.000 Gavin Newsom and Karen Bass are siding with these protesters.

00:42:41.000 They took an oath to support the Constitution of the United States and enforce the laws on the books.

00:42:48.000 And they're not doing that.

00:42:50.000 I don't see how...

00:42:59.000 And you can't nullify federal law with local resistance.

00:43:03.000 It just doesn't work that way.

00:43:05.000 Just because locally there are a small group of people that don't like it, so they're just going to negate federal law, that doesn't work.

00:43:13.000 Well, Dr. Phil, really appreciate your time and your insight from On the Ground in L.A. Thanks so much.

00:43:19.000 I appreciate it, Ben.

00:43:20.000 Thanks for talking about this.

00:43:22.000 Well, folks, all of this is likely to come to a head on Saturday.

00:43:26.000 Saturday, of course, is the 250th anniversary of the establishment of the United States Army, and President Trump is going to celebrate it by having a gigantic military parade.

00:43:36.000 According to CBS News, the event, according to Army officials, is expected to include about 6,600 soldiers, as well as about 150 vehicles and over 50 aircraft in the celebration.

00:43:45.000 Hundreds of thousands of people are expected to attend the festivities, according to D.C. officials.

00:43:50.000 Now, again.

00:43:51.000 The media are trying to make this out to be about President Trump's 79th birthday.

00:43:55.000 That is not why this is happening.

00:43:56.000 This is happening because the Second Continental Congress on June 14th, 1775, voted to establish official companies following the fighting at Lexington and Concord against British troops.

00:44:06.000 So it can be fairly said to have effectively led off the American Revolutionary War.

00:44:11.000 Apparently, the festival and parade could cost somewhere between $25 and $45 million.

00:44:16.000 The Army Secretary Dan Driscoll said the United States has an amazing opportunity to tell a story about the Army.

00:44:21.000 So, the left, of course, is using this as an opportunity to launch further protests.

00:44:26.000 And you have to understand that as part of their broader narrative scheme here, the idea is that President Trump activating the National Guard in Los Angeles to stop rioting and looting in that city, that is the predicate to an authoritarian takeover.

00:44:39.000 And the imagery of authoritarianism is the United States Army marching in celebration of its establishment 250 years ago in Washington, D.C. And so a group called No Kings President Trump, for his part, he says, listen, if they get violent or something, then we will actually stop it in Washington, D.C. And we're going to be celebrating big on Saturday.

00:45:05.000 We're going to have a lot of, and if there's any protest that wants to come out, they will be met with very big force.

00:45:10.000 By the way, for those people that want to protest, they're going to be met with very big force.

00:45:14.000 And I haven't even heard about a protest.

00:45:17.000 But, you know, this is people that hate our country, but they will be met with very heavy force.

00:45:23.000 So, again, he doesn't mean people who are just protesting.

00:45:26.000 He means people who violate the law, presumably.

00:45:28.000 Well, the No Kings protests are supposed to take place across the country.

00:45:32.000 Supposedly, there are 1,800 protests planned across the country for June 14th, according to Newsweek.

00:45:38.000 Now, not all of those protests are going to be huge.

00:45:40.000 The way that you start a protest, apparently, is you go to the No Kings website and then you essentially register yourself as a protest.

00:45:45.000 So it might be However, this is the first kind of major nationwide protest movement against President Trump since his re-inauguration in January.

00:46:01.000 Of course, this sort of stuff was commonplace during the first Trump administration.

00:46:04.000 We saw the Women's March every single year. 0.95

00:46:07.000 You would see various Black Lives Matter marches in 2020 and then riots in 2020.

00:46:11.000 This is the first big one.

00:46:13.000 And it is all coming together around the idea that President Trump is a would-be dictator.

00:46:18.000 According to organizers, the No Kings protests are being held to stand up against, quote, authoritarianism, billionaire first politics, and the militarization of our democracy.

00:46:26.000 What are these protests, really?

00:46:28.000 It's all the same groups who are getting together in order to essentially create a hubbub about how much they hate President Trump.

00:46:34.000 So, a list of the sponsors of the No Kings movement includes Bernie, like his movement.

00:46:41.000 Greenpeace, the ACLU, Dem List, Human Rights Campaign, Move On, People for the American Way, Planned Parenthood, the Organization for Black Struggle, all the usual suspects.

00:46:50.000 So it is the random agglomeration of left-wing causes who just hate President Trump.

00:46:55.000 That's all this is about.

00:46:57.000 If you go to the No Kings website, what exactly are they suggesting that they are protesting?

00:47:03.000 They say, quote, they've defied our courts, deported Americans, disappeared people off the streets, attacked our civil rights, and slashed our services.

00:47:09.000 The corruption has gone too far.

00:47:11.000 No thrones, no crowns, no kings.

00:47:17.000 And if you then dig down into what exactly they're looking for, they released a document explaining what exactly you should be pushing.

00:47:27.000 What are the messages you should be pushing if you are a no kings activist?

00:47:31.000 So here's the messaging.

00:47:32.000 Quote, he's using our tax dollars to pay for his party.

00:47:36.000 President Trump's birthday celebration is expected to cost millions of our tax dollars, all while Republicans claim there's no money for Social Security, SNAP, or Medicaid.

00:47:43.000 First of all, there's been no cut to Social Security.

00:47:45.000 When it comes to Medicaid, we are talking about work requirements for Medicaid.

00:47:50.000 We've talked about better authorization of SNAP funds to make sure that people who need it are the ones who are actually getting it as opposed to others.

00:47:58.000 And again, this isn't a birthday party for President Trump, so that's not going to work.

00:48:01.000 We are united against kings.

00:48:03.000 That's what no king says.

00:48:04.000 President Trump has already indicated he's aiming for at least a third term. 0.99

00:48:08.000 They're so insane. 0.99

00:48:09.000 They're so insane. 0.99

00:48:10.000 No, he is not. 0.96

00:48:11.000 Stop it.

00:48:12.000 Stop it. 1.00

00:48:12.000 You sound stupid. 1.00

00:48:13.000 And now he's planning a self-aggrandizing military parade in D.C. But the American people don't put up with kings. 1.00

00:48:19.000 Unless presumably you're a member of the Kennedy family or the Clinton family or the Obama family.

00:48:26.000 Together, says No Kings, we will mobilize in huge numbers to reject this corruption and abuse of power.

00:48:30.000 It's in our DNA as a country.

00:48:32.000 They've gone too far.

00:48:34.000 This is bigger than political disagreement.

00:48:36.000 They've defied our courts.

00:48:38.000 You're going to actually need to note where the defiance of the courts has happened.

00:48:42.000 Where's the thing where they've defied the courts?

00:48:44.000 It appears that actually they've abided by court orders.

00:48:48.000 There's an open question as to whether lower courts have the capacity to issue nationwide injunctions.

00:48:53.000 That's not quite the same thing.

00:48:55.000 Deported American citizens.

00:48:56.000 Can you name them?

00:48:57.000 Because if they're deporting American citizens, like true, actual American citizens, We should probably hear about that. 1.00

00:49:04.000 Disappeared people off the streets and slashed our services, all while orchestrating a massive giveaway to their billionaire allies.

00:49:09.000 Enough is enough.

00:49:10.000 For anyone who thinks he's gone too far, this movement is for you.

00:49:14.000 Hilariously, they are claiming that this protest better represents the establishment of the army than the parade for the United States Army.

00:49:21.000 Quote, the army's birthday isn't about parades or pageantry.

00:49:24.000 It marks the beginning of America's rejection of kings.

00:49:27.000 So you are protesting the U.S. Army.

00:49:30.000 It's a move.

00:49:31.000 It's a move.

00:49:33.000 That's why we say no thrones, no crowns, no kings.

00:49:36.000 No kings is about defending the ideals they fought for.

00:49:38.000 This country doesn't belong to strongmen.

00:49:40.000 It belongs to the people.

00:49:41.000 Well, if you're worried about kings and inherited power and wealth, it's a little ironic that one of the chief sponsors of No Kings is a person named Christy Walton, who, of course, is an heiress of the Walton family, as in Walmart.

00:49:55.000 Some people are trying to organize a boycott of Walmart based on this.

00:50:00.000 Again, she is the heiress. 1.00

00:50:02.000 I'm not sure that the entire chain is responsible for her stupidity. 0.99

00:50:06.000 The views expressed were solely those of Christy Walton, according to the Walmart group. 0.99

00:50:14.000 She put up an ad and put up the money for the ad, suggesting, quote, the honor, dignity, and integrity of our country is not for sale.

00:50:22.000 Show up, attend your town halls, be civil.

00:50:25.000 And some of the things that she wants, we uphold and defend the Constitution.

00:50:29.000 We care for veterans and children.

00:50:31.000 Okay, so now we're getting law and sign politics.

00:50:33.000 If they think that this is going to in any way inhibit the presidents of the United States from enforcing the law, good luck on that.

00:50:40.000 Meanwhile, in other good news for the Trump administration, Elon Musk has now ended his feud with President Trump.

00:50:46.000 That didn't last very long at all.

00:50:48.000 Again, I predicted late last week that probably the feud would peter out because there really was no serious interest on either side for the feud.

00:50:55.000 Elon Musk wants to continue to provide SpaceX vehicles to the United States government.

00:50:58.000 The United States government would like to continue using those SpaceX vehicles.

00:51:02.000 So the sort of extension of this snafu was in no one's best interest.

00:51:08.000 Elon put out a tweet yesterday on X, quote, I regret some of my posts about President Trump last week.

00:51:12.000 They went too far.

00:51:15.000 Hey, that makes sense.

00:51:16.000 And then President Trump said that he was open to rekindling a relationship with Musk.

00:51:20.000 Presumably, he'll be a little bit cautious about that.

00:51:22.000 That's not particularly surprising.

00:51:23.000 But that is a good thing for the Republican Party.

00:51:26.000 You don't want those two in open warfare for a prolonged period of time.

00:51:30.000 Meanwhile, one of the things that's so fascinating about the Trump era is that because President Trump is a larger-than-life figure, and because he is a post-ideological figure, because he doesn't have any thorough-going governing philosophy, there's all sorts of debate that happens under the hood inside the GOP, generally.

00:51:45.000 As I pointed out before, the GOP is not a conservative movement, really.

00:51:49.000 It is an anti-left movement, and that draws people People from the isolationists on foreign policy to the more hawkish on foreign policy.

00:51:57.000 People who are pro-choice on abortion.

00:51:59.000 People who are pro-life on abortion.

00:52:00.000 People who are pro-same-sex marriage.

00:52:02.000 People who are anti-same-sex marriage.

00:52:03.000 People who are pro-gigantic government.

00:52:05.000 People who are very much in favor of limited government.

00:52:07.000 The only glue that holds that coalition together is President Trump as a human.

00:52:11.000 That's it.

00:52:13.000 That's the glue.

00:52:14.000 That and the fact that the left is so out of their minds.

00:52:17.000 And so people have reacted to the left by moving over to the GOP.

00:52:20.000 So the GOP is sort of a bag of marbles rather than a sort of cohesive unit.

00:52:26.000 That's made clear almost every day from inside the administration.

00:52:30.000 So, two days ago, Tulsi Gabbard, who is the Director of National Intelligence, put out a bizarre video.

00:52:36.000 Like a very bizarre video.

00:52:37.000 And it does speak to Tulsi Gabbard is a lifelong Democrat.

00:52:44.000 She joined the Republican Party only recently, of course.

00:52:47.000 She was noted for her almost Chomsky-esque foreign policy views, even when she was a Democrat.

00:52:53.000 And now she put out a video while she's DNI, which is strange, right?

00:52:57.000 You don't normally hear from the director of national intelligence.

00:52:59.000 When's the last time you heard from Dan Coates or something?

00:53:02.000 John Ratcliffe is the head of the CIA.

00:53:04.000 When's the last time you heard from him?

00:53:05.000 But Tulsi Gabbard, of course, has presidential aspirations of her own. 1.00

00:53:09.000 And she put out a very bizarre video that I think speaks to the horseshoe theory connection between the isolationist right and the Howard Zinn left, which sound almost identical at this point.

00:53:21.000 This has consequences in a couple of senses.

00:53:23.000 One, it has consequences because obviously this is a very open debate inside the Trump administration.

00:53:28.000 You have people ranging from the hawkish, Marco Rubio, Pete Hegseth, on foreign policy, to the incredibly dovish, borderline left wing, like Tulsi Gabbard.

00:53:45.000 And your own political biases could definitely play into that.

00:53:48.000 In any case, this video made a lot of waves for good reason, mainly because many of the things she's saying here are pretty egregious.

00:53:55.000 Here is Tulsi Gabbard, the DNI.

00:53:58.000 I recently visited Hiroshima in Japan and stood at the epicenter of a city that remains scarred by the unimaginable horror caused by a single nuclear bomb dropped in 1945, 80 years ago.

00:54:17.000 Oh, no.

00:54:17.000 It's hard for me to find the words to express what I saw.

00:54:22.000 The stories that I heard, the haunting sadness that still remains.

00:54:26.000 This is an experience that will stay with me forever.

00:54:31.000 This attack obliterated the city, killed over 300,000 people, many dying instantly while others died from severe burns, injuries, radiation sickness, and cancer that set in in the following months and years.

00:54:46.000 Nagasaki suffered the same fate.

00:54:48.000 Homes, schools, families.

00:54:50.000 All gone in a flash.

00:54:52.000 The survivors, the hibokusha, they carried the pain of extreme burns, radiation sickness, and loss for decades.

00:55:04.000 survivors of this attack were asked to put in paintings and drawings their own memories and how they felt and what they saw and those paintings

00:55:32.000 Okay, so, first of all, that is straight out of like a Howard Zinn documentary.

00:55:36.000 Okay, yes, dropping an atomic weapon has massive consequences.

00:55:40.000 Yes, there is carnage that emerges from dropping a nuclear weapon.

00:55:44.000 Everyone knows this, and no one is taking that lightly.

00:55:46.000 But why is she dropping this?

00:55:47.000 It's such a strange thing.

00:55:49.000 This happened in 1945.

00:55:50.000 It is now 80 years later.

00:55:52.000 And she is dropping a video about how terrible the dropping of the A-bomb was. 0.80

00:55:57.000 So first of all, to pretend there's no political undertone here is silly.

00:56:00.000 There are a bunch of people on the right, including Tucker Carlson, some of his historian guests, who have suggested that the United States was evil for dropping the atomic bomb.

00:56:09.000 That's the word they use, evil for dropping the atomic bomb.

00:56:12.000 And she's speaking into that.

00:56:13.000 There's no question that's what she's doing.

00:56:15.000 And so I think at this point it is worthwhile noting.

00:56:17.000 That the dropping of the atomic bomb, ending World War II, was better than the alternative, which was a full-scale invasion by the Russians from the North and the Americans into Japan. 0.87

00:56:31.000 That was the alternative.

00:56:32.000 And the alternative would have been horrifying for both the Japanese and for the Americans.

00:56:38.000 This kind of bizarre retcon of American history, where America was the bad guy in World War II because we dropped an A-bomb, actually two A-bombs, in order to end.

00:56:47.000 World War II.

00:56:48.000 That is historical revisionism of the highest order.

00:56:52.000 The historian named Mark Rigg recently came out with a book called Japan's Holocaust, talking about the fact that the Japanese have sort of gotten off lightly in the view of many historians based on their conduct between the 1920s and the end of World War II, responsible for the killing of at least 30 million people in China, throughout the British-occupied areas of Southeast Asia, through India, through the Philippines.

00:57:17.000 Mark Rigg points out that if you were to spec out how many Japanese would have died during a full-scale invasion of the four main Japanese islands, the answer was astonishing.

00:57:29.000 Because actually, there were places that the United States fought the Japanese on Japanese-controlled and populated islands in the Pacific.

00:57:38.000 And at least 50% of the Japanese civilians in those areas died during battles like Saipan, Tinian, So, if that had been applied to Japan, more broadly speaking, you're talking about millions of Japanese civilians who likely would have died in Japan if the United States and Russia had been forced to invade the nation's four main islands.

00:58:01.000 As Rigg points out, throughout the summer of 1945, over 3,000 ships were being readied for this invasion.

00:58:07.000 Millions of Allied troops trained for it.

00:58:09.000 Historian Richard Frank said, quote, in face of the evidence, it is fantasy, not history, to believe the end of the war was at hand before the use of the atomic bomb.

00:58:17.000 According to the records, allies would have encountered up to 10,000 kamikaze planes.

00:58:22.000 And that'd be suicide pilots.

00:58:24.000 Vice Admiral Takejiro Onishi believed that if the nation was willing to, quote, sacrifice 20 million Japanese lives in a special attack effort, victory will be ours.

00:58:34.000 That was the Vice Admiral of the Navy.

00:58:37.000 According to Rigg, during the planning of the last-ditch operation, Japanese mobilized all of their citizens, all of it, out of a population of 71 million people.

00:58:45.000 They had 6 million servicemen and an additional 18 million citizen soldiers.

00:58:50.000 That'd be men between the ages of 15 and 60 and women between the ages of 17 and 40. Children were even trained to carry backpacks of explosives to throw themselves under the treads of tanks as what they called Sherman carpets.

00:59:02.000 Conservative estimates of Japanese deaths for the total invasion numbered upwards of 10 million.

00:59:07.000 The Secretary of War at the time, Henry Stimson, his staff estimated that conquering Japan would cost It would have cost the Japanese somewhere between 5 and 10 million dead, according to the Americans' estimates.

00:59:24.000 To understand the way this works, you have to understand that the Japanese had been trained by the emperor and by his entire system to die for the emperor. 0.88

00:59:36.000 This was a big part of the war.

00:59:39.000 Half of the 381,550 Japanese in the Philippines and more than a third, if not half of the 300,000 civilians on Okinawa and 40,000 on Saipanian died or killed themselves during those battles.

00:59:51.000 In preparation for an invasion of Japan, America produced half a million Purple Hearts.

00:59:58.000 And by the way, even after the dropping of the atomic bomb, there was an attempted coup to stop a recording of Hirohito surrendering from actually being made public.

01:00:08.000 Apparently, So, again, tremendous suffering takes place in war.

01:00:27.000 War is awful.

01:00:28.000 War is, in and of itself, a horrifying thing, obviously.

01:00:33.000 But what is she attempting to convey with this video?

01:00:34.000 It's not just that, that, There's no way to take this video as anything but a critique of America dropping the A-bomb during World War II, and that is more broadly connected to a critique of American foreign policy that suggests that when America is muscular in pursuit of its own interests, this raises the prospect of nuclear war, and that's where she goes next.

01:00:55.000 This one bomb that caused so much destruction on Hiroshima was tiny compared to today's nuclear bombs.

01:01:03.000 The bomb that was dropped on Hiroshima had a yield of just 15 kilotons of TNT, whereas today's nuclear warheads range in size from 100 kilotons to over 1 megaton.

01:01:16.000 A single nuclear weapon today could kill millions in just minutes.

01:01:21.000 Just one of these nuclear bombs would vaporize everything at its core.

01:01:25.000 People, buildings, life itself.

01:01:28.000 The shockwave would crush structures miles away, killing and maiming countless people.

01:01:34.000 And then comes the fallout.

01:01:37.000 Radioactive poison spreading through the air, water, and soil, condemning survivors to agonizing deaths or lifelong suffering.

01:01:45.000 A nuclear winter could follow with smoke and ash completely blocking the sun.

01:01:50.000 Plunging the world into darkness and cold, Okay, yes.

01:01:55.000 I mean, sure.

01:01:58.000 Nuclear war is bad, yes, we all agree. 0.99

01:02:02.000 This isn't some made-up science fiction story.

01:02:05.000 This is the reality of what's at stake, what we are facing now.

01:02:10.000 Because as we stand here today, closer to the brink of nuclear annihilation than ever before, political elite and warmongers are carelessly fomenting fear and tensions between nuclear powers.

01:02:23.000 This is where she's going, right?

01:02:25.000 This is the Tucker Howard Zinn.

01:02:27.000 Tulsi Gabbard horseshoe theory that includes top members of the Trump administration.

01:02:31.000 It's a debate inside the Republican Party.

01:02:33.000 The idea here is that if you wish to stand up to aggressors against America's interests or to enemies of the United States, somehow you're fomenting nuclear war.

01:02:42.000 First of all, let's make a quick point.

01:02:45.000 Presumably one of the things she's talking about here is Iran.

01:02:47.000 Because Iran is attempting to gain a nuclear weapon.

01:02:49.000 And many of the same restrainers, so-called restrainers in the administration, who spend their days leaking to Politico, like all day long, just leaking to Politico.

01:02:57.000 From the White House, many of those same restrainers are suggesting that a strike on Iran's nuclear facilities would somehow raise the possibility of nuclear war.

01:03:05.000 Question, how?

01:03:06.000 How?

01:03:07.000 If nuclear weapons are bad in their use and their fallout, all of which I agree with, if that's the case, why would you want a bunch of radical Islamists to have one? 0.99

01:03:19.000 Why would that be a thing that you want to pursue?

01:03:22.000 A question she never answers.

01:03:24.000 But again, it's all about the idea.

01:03:25.000 That when America pursues her interests, or America's allies pursue her interests, this foments nuclear war.

01:03:30.000 When China expands its authoritarian structure around the world, when Russia tries to invade sovereign countries, when Russia threatens nuclear war openly, apparently that's of no consequence.

01:03:41.000 The big problem is when America stands up for her interests. 1.00

01:03:44.000 This new cult restrainer philosophy, it's not a restrainer philosophy. 0.84

01:03:48.000 It's the same crap that we heard from the left in the 1960s in the United States when they were suggesting that we needed to capitulate to the wishes of the Soviet Union. 0.92

01:03:55.000 In order to avoid nuclear war. 0.98

01:03:57.000 And it turns out the best way to avoid nuclear war with the Soviet Union is for the Soviet Union to collapse.

01:04:01.000 That was the best way.

01:04:03.000 Now here is Tulsi Gabbard finishing up.

01:04:06.000 Perhaps it's because they are confident that they will have access to nuclear shelters for themselves and for their families that regular people won't have access to.

01:04:17.000 So it's up to us, the people, to speak up and demand an end to this madness.

01:04:24.000 We must reject this path to nuclear war and work toward a world where no one has to live in fear of a nuclear holocaust.

01:04:33.000 Now, what exactly is she even talking about here?

01:04:35.000 So the idea is that if you want America to stand up strongly for interest, you know, peace through strength, President Trump's actual pitch for over a decade, she's the one disagreeing with Trump here, that if you wish to do that, because I don't see President Trump unilaterally attempting to get rid of our nuclear weapons.

01:04:50.000 If you do that, it must be because you're building a nuclear bunker for yourself somewhere.

01:04:56.000 This is just paranoid, delusional fantasy from the director of national intelligence.

01:05:01.000 It is a very bad look for the director of national intelligence.

01:05:04.000 I think Tulsi's smarter than this.

01:05:05.000 I don't think there's a reason why she needs to do this.

01:05:07.000 And there's only one reason to do this, and that is, again, to push a particular perspective that was very prevalent during the Obama administration, that if you oppose a dovish foreign policy, an isolationist foreign policy, a foreign policy, That withdraws from Ukraine, for example, and gives Russia the upper hand there.

01:05:26.000 Or that plans to abandon Taiwan, the predations of the Chinese.

01:05:29.000 Or plans to allow Iran to go nuclear.

01:05:32.000 That if you oppose that, somehow you want nuclear war.

01:05:35.000 Precisely the opposite is true.

01:05:37.000 No one wants nuclear war.

01:05:39.000 No one.

01:05:40.000 The reason hawks are in favor of protecting America's interests and standing with America's allies is because the best way to prevent a nuclear war is to stand down We know this because we did this for half a century against the Soviet Union.

01:05:57.000 Again, this part of this kind of scare tactic.

01:05:59.000 What if I show you the impact?

01:06:00.000 It is all tied to, again, a deep, rootable.

01:06:04.000 The reason she's going to Hiroshima and Nagasaki and doing a propaganda video about how bad it was that America dropped the A-bomb is to once again suggest that America is the moral bad guy in the world since World War Two, a proposition that has been put forward by many on that.

01:06:19.000 And it is wrong.

01:06:20.000 It is untrue.

01:06:20.000 And President Trump does not agree with it by all available evidence.

01:06:23.000 But there are certainly some in his administration who do.

01:06:26.000 And that's a battle that's going to have to be fought ideologically over the course of coming months and years inside the Republican Party for sure.

01:06:33.000 That battle over foreign policy and America's role in the world may in fact be coming to a head with regard to Iran sooner rather than later.

01:06:41.000 So yesterday the news broke that the United States has been moving.

01:06:46.000 Members of its embassies away from various parts of the Middle East, redeploying forces in different parts of the Middle East, presumably in preparation for either an Israeli attack on the Iranian nuclear reactors or maybe even the possibility of an American airstrike on the Iranian nuclear reactors.

01:07:01.000 That, of course, is following the revelation, which I think everybody knew, that Iran is determined to develop a nuclear weapon. 0.52

01:07:09.000 That was something that was said by the Secretary of Defense yesterday in testimony.

01:07:13.000 That Iran is actively working toward a nuclear weapon.

01:07:16.000 Senator Cotton of Arkansas pointed out, today the Secretary of Defense confirmed Iran's terror regime is working toward a nuclear weapon.

01:07:23.000 For the sake of our national security, the security of our allies, and millions of civilians in the region, this cannot be allowed to happen.

01:07:29.000 The IAEA actually sounded off on this.

01:07:32.000 The IAEA brought out a new report saying that they are violating Iran, its nuclear limits.

01:07:40.000 That is a shocker, by the way, because again, the IAEA is not a right-wing organization by any stretch of the imagination.

01:07:47.000 But according to NPR, the UN Nuclear Watchdog's Board of Governors on Thursday formally found Iran is not complying with its nuclear obligations for the first time in 20 years.

01:07:57.000 Iran immediately reacted, saying they will establish a new enrichment facility in a secure location and that other measures are also being planned.

01:08:03.000 And again, Iran is not being shy about what it believes.

01:08:06.000 Iran is saying this stuff just right out loud.

01:08:08.000 So Iran, for example, has now been That presumably is one reason why the Israelis might want to go by themselves, because if the Israelis attack Iran, and then the Iranians fire back hundreds of missiles at Israel, and Israel and its allies, including the United States, knock down a lot of those missiles, will that implicate U.S. forces in the region?

01:08:30.000 By the way, the worst move the mullahs could make would be to strike U.S. forces in the region in any serious way. 0.90

01:08:35.000 If they start trying to hit, like, Al-Udeid airbase in Qatar, Or if they start trying to strike American forces in Saudi Arabia or Kuwait, America will just bomb their oil fields and that will be the end of the regime.

01:08:45.000 Understand that the place where Iran is most vulnerable is not, in fact, its nuclear facilities.

01:08:49.000 Its nuclear facilities are its hope for the preservation of the regime.

01:08:53.000 Because what Iran hopes is that by getting a nuclear weapon, they will be able to deter any and all activity that their regime does not like. 0.92

01:09:01.000 They'll be able to rearm all of their proxy terrorist groups all over the region.

01:09:06.000 With the threat that if you try to stop them, then they'll fire a nuke at somebody.

01:09:09.000 And that is their goal.

01:09:11.000 The nuke gains them leverage in the same way that a nuke has gained North Korea leverage. 0.69

01:09:15.000 But the real vulnerability for the regime is not the nuclear facilities per se.

01:09:20.000 Like if you bomb the nuclear facilities in Iran, the regime likely doesn't fall.

01:09:23.000 If you bomb the oil fields in Iran, the regime likely does fall.

01:09:26.000 And so what they want to avoid, even if their nuclear facilities get hit, is anything that would provoke strikes on their oil facilities, because if their oil facilities go...

01:09:37.000 The only export that Iran has at this point is oil and natural gas, which had been shipping out to third parties like China.

01:09:43.000 But if they can't do that anymore, then there is no economic lifeline for the regime in Iran.

01:09:48.000 So there'd be an unbelievably foolish move for Iran to actually do that.

01:09:51.000 Iran likes to talk a big game on this sort of stuff. 0.53

01:09:53.000 This is their way.

01:09:54.000 They're always talking about unleashing hell, unleashing fire.

01:09:56.000 When the United States, under President Trump the first time, killed Qasem Soleimani, the Iranian terror master, the response by Iran, Was a few desultory attacks on American bases in Iraq.

01:10:07.000 And that was basically the end of the story.

01:10:10.000 By the way, again, the idea that the Iranians are like begging for peace.

01:10:13.000 As I mentioned Tucker Carlson earlier, he had on Jeffrey Sachs, who effectively is a Chinese spokesperson at this point.

01:10:18.000 And the two of them were talking about how Iran has sought peace for 10 years.

01:10:23.000 There's not only no evidence of that, there is extraordinary counter evidence of that, including their support for literally every major terror group in the region.

01:10:30.000 Just this week.

01:10:32.000 The commander of the IRGC, that's the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps, said, quote, our enmity with the United States is ideological.

01:10:38.000 This battle will never end as it is rooted in our core beliefs.

01:10:42.000 Unlike Russia and China, our conflict with the United States is not geopolitical or economic in nature and leaves no room for reconciliation after the fight.

01:10:52.000 So what?

01:10:53.000 Iran is somehow not oriented against the West in some way?

01:10:56.000 Now again.

01:10:57.000 I think there can be open questions about what America's involvement ought to be in a strike on nuclear facilities.

01:11:02.000 What are the risks?

01:11:03.000 What are the rewards?

01:11:04.000 There are downsides and upsides to every single policy.

01:11:07.000 But the idea that it is in the best interest of the United States to let Iran go nuclear, somehow that is the least risky option, that's the one that seems totally insane to me.

01:11:15.000 On what basis can you make the argument that the least risky option is for Iran, a malacracy that hates the United States, hates Saudi, hates UAE, hates Bahrain, hates Israel, hates Europe? 1.00

01:11:26.000 Having a nuclear weapon, how would that be the best outcome?

01:11:30.000 Of all the available outcomes, how is that the best outcome?

01:11:33.000 Please explain.

01:11:35.000 Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene, no foreign policy, great shakes, she tweeted out, I don't know anyone that even thinks about Iran.

01:11:43.000 I mean, I see that even many of her ideological allies think about Iran a fair bit.

01:11:48.000 Americans don't want to bomb Iran because the secular government of Israel says that Iran is on the verge of developing a nuclear bomb any day now.

01:11:54.000 Now, it's very, her characterization here, the secular government of Israel, as opposed to what?

01:12:00.000 The Christian government of Israel, the Islamic government of Israel, the Jewish government of Israel?

01:12:03.000 I don't even understand what she's implying there.

01:12:08.000 And by the way, it's not just Israel that suggests that Iran is on the verge of developing a nuclear weapon.

01:12:12.000 Iran says that Iran is on the verge of developing a nuclear weapon.

01:12:15.000 The IAEA says that they're on the verge of developing a nuclear weapon.

01:12:18.000 The Defense Department says they're on the verge of developing a nuclear weapon.

01:12:22.000 She says, we've been told that for the past 20 years, the same story.

01:12:26.000 Everyone I know is tired of U.S. intervention and regime change in foreign countries.

01:12:29.000 Again, no one's talking about a full-scale invasion of Iran or regime change even in Iran.

01:12:34.000 It would be better for the world if that regime didn't exist.

01:12:36.000 But the question is always not whether what would be best for the world is best for the world.

01:12:39.000 But what is doable?

01:12:41.000 What is practical and what is the most useful given all the risks and the rewards of any particular policy?

01:12:45.000 Every policy decision is a trade-off.

01:12:48.000 No one in the American foreign policy establishment, with very few exceptions, Even the most hawkish is talking about like a full-scale invasion of Iran.

01:12:57.000 I certainly have never called for anything like that.

01:13:00.000 People aligned with me ideologically have not called for anything like that.

01:13:04.000 Airstrikes on the Iranian nuclear facilities seems more like airstrikes on the Iraqi nuclear facilities by the Israelis back in 1981 in Osirak or Israeli airstrikes on the Syrian nuclear facilities in the middle of the last decade.

01:13:15.000 It seems more like that, actually.

01:13:17.000 And it seems like a full-scale invasion, but again.

01:13:20.000 This is the scare tactic we see from Tulsi Gabbard.

01:13:22.000 Nuclear war will suddenly break out.

01:13:25.000 Russia and China are going to fight.

01:13:26.000 Based on airstrikes on the Iranian nuclear facilities, how?

01:13:31.000 Marjorie Taylor Greene says, Everyone I know is disgusted with Democrats for supporting a literal war against America by foreign nationals and communist anarchists waving Mexican flags while they violently burn and attack police in American cities.

01:13:42.000 I mean, okay, agree.

01:13:43.000 Everyone I know wants us to fix our own problems here at home.

01:13:46.000 And these are not mutually exclusive.

01:13:48.000 The goal of the Quote, not bomb other countries that have nothing to do with our own self-inflicted problems.

01:14:04.000 So, first of all, not all the problems that we're looking at here in the United States are self-inflicted.

01:14:07.000 There is, in fact, foreign intervention in the American body politic.

01:14:11.000 That is a reality.

01:14:12.000 It's happening via social media, largely.

01:14:14.000 But, beyond that, Again, this idea that you can't walk and chew gum at the same time.

01:14:19.000 What do we have a military for then?

01:14:21.000 That doesn't mean we should use the military in this particular situation.

01:14:24.000 Make a case that we shouldn't.

01:14:26.000 Maybe we shouldn't.

01:14:27.000 But the real question is, as far as America's foreign policy goes, given the menu of options, which is the best and which is the worst?

01:14:35.000 The worst option is for Iran to go nuclear.

01:14:37.000 Because then you have a permanent Islamic state with a nuclear weapon threatening all of its neighbors, including core American allies. 1.00

01:14:45.000 In a region where America turning away means that China gains power. 0.88

01:14:50.000 That is the actual geopolitical calculus happening in the Middle East right now.

01:14:54.000 And President Trump understands that.

01:14:56.000 The thing is that the sort of Marjorie Taylor Greene position here or the Tulsi Gabbard position or the Tucker Carlson position is not the position of President Trump.

01:15:04.000 It has never been the position of President Trump.

01:15:07.000 Here was President Trump literally yesterday.

01:15:09.000 He was asked why forces are being moved around the region, why people are being removed from embassies.

01:15:14.000 And here's what he had to say.

01:15:15.000 Well, they are being moved out because it could be a dangerous place and we'll see what happens.

01:15:21.000 But they are been we've given notice to move out and we'll see what happens.

01:15:26.000 Okay, so, again, the position of the President of the United States, It has.

01:15:49.000 And so all of these people claiming it is not a core American interest to prevent Iran from having a nuclear weapon, that is certainly not the case that President Trump has been making.

01:15:58.000 Now, with all of this happening, Steve Whitcoff, the Middle East envoy, is apparently still planning to meet with Iran for a sixth round of talks on the country's nuclear program in the coming days, according to two U.S. officials.

01:16:09.000 With that said, obviously the administration has gotten a lot more pessimistic.

01:16:13.000 About the possibility of an agreement, given the fact that Iran has gotten intransigent.

01:16:19.000 Listen, Iran was never going to give up their nuclear program.

01:16:21.000 Again, Iran requires two things to remain in power.

01:16:24.000 One is a continued functionality of its oil resources.

01:16:28.000 And two is the nuclear program.

01:16:30.000 Because the minute they give up the nuclear program, that is the minute that they have guaranteed that they are no longer going to be able to terrorize their population until the end of time. 0.76

01:16:39.000 And again, The Trump administration was weighing options regarding how to support Israeli military action without leading it.

01:17:02.000 Those options could include aerial refueling or intelligence sharing.

01:17:05.000 But the U.S. official is unaware of any commitment.

01:17:08.000 This has always been my supposition, was that the United States probably would not directly participate in an attack on the Iranian nuclear facilities, but might stand back and allow the Israelis to do so.

01:17:19.000 Because after all, Israel is an independent country, and then it would be in the interest of the United States, in order to prevent a wider regional conflagration, to shoot down some of the incoming ballistic from Iran. 0.86

01:17:30.000 And that remains, I think, the most probable outcome right now in the Middle East, given the fact that, again, Iran cannot give up their nuclear facilities. 0.88

01:17:37.000 They can't.

01:17:37.000 And they're lying.

01:17:38.000 They don't want nuclear enrichment for peaceful energy. 1.00

01:17:41.000 Of course, of course, everyone knows that unless they're a complete dunderhead. 0.94

01:17:45.000 And meanwhile, one of the things that's truly amazing about the Gaza conflict, about the Israelis attempting to wipe out Hamas, all the same people who have been complaining about a quote-unquote genocide in the Gaza Strip are apparently totally unaffected by the murder of Gaza aid workers by Hamas. 0.99

01:18:02.000 Totally unaffected by it.

01:18:03.000 So Israel has been shipping in literally tons of food aid every single day.

01:18:07.000 For months and months and months and months at this point.

01:18:09.000 And now they're working with something called the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation.

01:18:12.000 They weren't willing to work with the UNRWA because that was a tool of Hamas. 0.94

01:18:16.000 The Gaza Humanitarian Foundation, run by somebody named Johnny Moore, has basically taken it upon itself to make sure that the aid that is brought in doesn't get to Hamas.

01:18:25.000 So, yesterday, Hamas just shot a bunch of the aid workers to death.

01:18:29.000 Just killed them.

01:18:30.000 Now, if Israel killed a bunch of aid workers, that is front page news in every major newspaper in Hamas murders aid workers. 0.89

01:18:42.000 For the purpose of stealing the aid?

01:18:45.000 Radio silence.

01:18:46.000 The Gaza Humanitarian Foundation put out a statement tonight.

01:18:49.000 At approximately 10 p.m.

01:18:50.000 Gaza time, a bus carrying more than two dozen members of the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation team, local Palestinians working side-by-side with the U.S. GHF team to deliver critical aid, were brutally attacked by Hamas.

01:19:00.000 At the time of the attack, our team was en route to one of our distribution centers in the area west of Hanunis.

01:19:05.000 We are still gathering facts.

01:19:06.000 What we know is devastating.

01:19:08.000 There are at least five fatalities, multiple injuries, fear some of our team members may have been taken hostage.

01:19:12.000 We condemn this heinous and deliberate attack in the strongest possible terms.

01:19:16.000 These were aid workers, humanitarians, fathers, brothers, sons, friends who are risking their lives every day to help others.

01:19:21.000 By the way, that death toll is apparently now up to eight.

01:19:25.000 And the world, total silence.

01:19:27.000 But I thought, wait, I thought that it was all about getting humanitarian aid to the Palestinians.

01:19:31.000 But no, everybody's too worried about Greta Thunberg.

01:19:38.000 I have a feeling it was never about the humanitarian aid to Gazans.

01:19:42.000 It was always about something more.

01:19:43.000 The reason people are pissed off, by the way, at GHF, the reason that the left is angry at the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation is specifically because it is not run by Hamas.

01:19:51.000 Specifically because it is not run by the UNRWA.

01:19:53.000 Specifically because it is getting aid to Palestinians who do not want to work with Hamas.

01:19:58.000 That's the reason that they are upset.

01:20:00.000 That is the whole thing.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - June 12, 2025

The Parasites Who Want To Run America

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