The Ben Shapiro Show - The Parkland Story Gets Even Worse | Ep. 484

00:00:00.000 Were the police told to stand down?

00:00:02.000 Did the police tell emergency responders to stand down?

00:00:05.000 And we're going to take a look at the government's record on mental health, because all of this is relevant to the big gun control debate.

00:00:10.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:00:11.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

00:00:17.000 So first off, I just want to thank all the folks who showed up last night at University of Minnesota.

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00:02:14.000 Okay, so time for some updates on what has happened in Parkland.

00:02:18.000 So every day, there's more information now coming out on what the sheriff's office in Broward County did and did not do in the lead-up to, during the attack, and in the aftermath of the Parkland shooting attack at the school shooting.

00:02:31.000 And it is really astonishing.

00:02:33.000 The more information that comes out, the worse this gets.

00:02:35.000 According to the Miami Herald today,

00:02:38.000 The shooter threatened classmates, posted photos of himself holding guns, made violent statements online, and was repeatedly described to authorities as a potential school shooter.

00:02:47.000 His troubling behavior gave law enforcement plenty of opportunities to investigate and arrest him, according to the Miami Herald, and even take away his guns long before he shot up Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland last week, according to interviews with former South Florida prosecutors and legal experts.

00:03:03.000 Sheriff Scott Israel had claimed that there is no way under law for him to actually confiscate the weapons of the shooter or to arrest the shooter.

00:03:09.000 That is not true.

00:03:10.000 According to Miami-Dade Prosecutor Marshall Dorey Lewis says, quote,

00:03:17.000 The idea that they were aware of it and could do nothing is absurd.

00:03:19.000 We can't let this happen again.

00:03:21.000 So not only did the FBI refuse to act on two strong tips, one of which involved the shooter posting on the internet that he planned to become a professional school shooter, which is illegal.

00:03:29.000 That's a terrorist threat.

00:03:30.000 The Palm Beach Sheriff's Office was told that the shooter had put a gun to others' heads in the past.

00:03:34.000 The Florida Department of Children and Families ruled him stable despite clear evidence of self-harm, and at the school where the shooter killed 17 people, they knew he was cutting himself, threatening students, and taking pictures with guns, and that he may have ingested gasoline in an attempt to commit suicide.

00:03:47.000 And nothing was done about any of these things.

00:03:50.000 They did have the legal authority to go in and arrest him.

00:03:53.000 They had the legal authority to ensure that he did not have weapons.

00:03:56.000 They did not do any of those things.

00:03:58.000 They dropped the ball.

00:03:59.000 They really blew it.

00:04:00.000 There are some rumors out there, and we'll see if they're substantiated.

00:04:03.000 Sarah Rumph over at Red State has a long piece about it.

00:04:06.000 It is obvious that the sheriffs of Broward County have been attempting to minimize the number of arrests that take place on campus.

00:04:11.000 The reports that the student, that the shooter, was expelled from the school are not true.

00:04:15.000 He was actually allowed to remain in the school.

00:04:17.000 And there are a lot of questions being asked today about whether the determination to end the so-called school-to-prison pipeline allowed the police to let this guy off the hook.

00:04:25.000 That basically, they didn't want to be part of that school-to-prison pipeline, so instead they let an incipient school shooter

00:04:30.000 Run around on the loose with guns, which would just be devastating.

00:04:34.000 We'll see if there's more information that comes up.

00:04:36.000 about that.

00:04:37.000 Even if a case couldn't have been made, the arrest should have happened.

00:04:40.000 The teen might have been placed squarely on the radar of police analysts, and then any time anything else came up, there'd be more action taken by the police.

00:04:48.000 Another prosecutor named Priovlis, according to Miami Herald, says at the very least, the most capable intelligence detectives should have been monitoring him.

00:04:56.000 The sheriff has said that the BSO's handling of tips is under internal investigation.

00:05:00.000 He says, I don't know that the signs were missed.

00:05:02.000 He said, this isn't science fiction.

00:05:03.000 We're not allowed to arrest on what a person thinks about on pre-crimes.

00:05:06.000 But this wasn't a matter of pre-crimes.

00:05:08.000 There are reports of this shooter threatening other students.

00:05:10.000 That is cyber-stalking under the law in the state of Florida.

00:05:13.000 There's pictures of this student online brandishing guns and talking about being a school shooter.

00:05:17.000 These are crimes in the state of Florida.

00:05:20.000 And there have been other people who have been arrested for similar stuff.

00:05:23.000 Miami-Dade schools policed on Friday arrested Crop High senior Sean Mesa for posting photos of himself with guns on social media.

00:05:30.000 Improper display of a firearm is a misdemeanor in Florida.

00:05:34.000 That's not the only case that is like that.

00:05:36.000 There's another arrest that was made in 2016 of somebody who was involved in very similar behavior.

00:05:43.000 There is a Miami-Dade Police Homeland Security Bureau arrest of a guy named Enrique Dominguez, who is posting apparently disturbing images of himself dressed like the Joker with combat-style knives.

00:05:54.000 And his co-workers report he pledged allegiance to Allah, showed them ISIS execution videos, and vowed to dress like the Joker before gunning down co-workers.

00:06:01.000 They went and arrested him.

00:06:02.000 Why couldn't that have applied here?

00:06:03.000 The answer is it could have applied here, but something happened at the sheriff's office and they didn't do their job.

00:06:09.000 And now we're finding out that the sheriff's office itself may have told police officers to stand down.

00:06:15.000 So Laura Ingram reported on her show.

00:06:18.000 Yesterday, the deputies were told to stand outside and wait because they didn't have body cameras on.

00:06:22.000 So because there were no body cameras on the detectives, or on the sheriff's deputies, and because they didn't want to go in without those body cameras so that they could defend themselves against possible lawsuit, maybe?

00:06:33.000 Whatever the case was, according to Ingram, her sources in the department say these deputies were told to stand around outside while kids were getting shot inside.

00:06:39.000 Our sources near the Broward County Sheriff's Department are telling us that the deputies who arrived at the scene of the shooting were told not to enter the school unless their body cameras were turned on.

00:06:53.000 And then we found out that the deputies did not have body cameras.

00:06:57.000 So they did not enter the building or engage the shooter.

00:07:02.000 So curiously, police also lost radio communications during the Parkland shooting.

00:07:08.000 I mean, this is a massive botch.

00:07:09.000 They didn't even have body cameras, but they suddenly obeyed the rule that they weren't allowed to go into dangerous areas with body cameras.

00:07:15.000 Something is really fishy here.

00:07:17.000 There was an EMT who was on national TV last night, an emergency medical respondent, who was saying that the police were barring them from getting in.

00:07:23.000 They said they could have saved some more lives if they'd been allowed to get in there right away, but they weren't allowed to get in there.

00:07:27.000 The police were stopping them from going in.

00:07:29.000 Three high-ranking Florida officials are expressing their frustration because they say EMS was delayed getting inside Stillman Douglas High School on the day of the shooting in the critical moments when victims lay inside in need of immediate care.

00:07:43.000 One source tells Fox News some EMS teams requested to go inside but were denied by the commanding agency, the Broward County Sheriff's Office.

00:07:51.000 That source alleges scanner recordings will reveal that.

00:07:54.000 Okay, this is amazing stuff.

00:07:56.000 This is amazing stuff.

00:07:57.000 And people are talking about the NRA and law-abiding gun owners as the problem.

00:08:00.000 We also now have a response from the Broward deputy, Scott Peterson, who's been ripped up and down by the sheriff.

00:08:07.000 And there's something fishy about the sheriff ripping this deputy up and down and suggesting that he was a coward.

00:08:11.000 There's something very fishy about a sheriff

00:08:14.000 Who does not defend his cops and who throws his cops under the bus.

00:08:18.000 Now, it may be very well that this deputy chickened out.

00:08:21.000 That's quite possible, but that's not what he's saying.

00:08:23.000 According to his lawyer, quote,

00:08:40.000 So this is another one of the questions.

00:08:42.000 Why don't we have the video?

00:08:43.000 Why don't we know what happened?

00:08:44.000 They have video of what happened there.

00:08:45.000 They have cameras on the premises.

00:08:46.000 This particular deputy was awarded the School Deputy of the Year in 2014.

00:09:10.000 Apparently, according to the Miami Herald, he was in another building dealing with a student issue, and the shots sounded.

00:09:15.000 He was armed with his sidearm.

00:09:16.000 He ran to the west side of building 12 and set up in a defensive position, then did nothing for four minutes until the gunfire stopped, according to the sheriff.

00:09:23.000 But according to this deputy, he says that he heard the gunshots but believed the gunshots were originating from outside the building on the school campus.

00:09:29.000 And he said BSO trains its officers that in the event of outdoor gunfire, one is to seek cover and assess the situation in order to communicate what one observes with other law enforcement.

00:09:38.000 So maybe a mistake was just made as opposed to cowardice, or it's possible that there was something else going on because we still have not fully rebutted that CNN report that says it was not one deputy on premises, but four deputies on premises who are outside doing nothing.

00:09:50.000 And if Ingram's report is correct, if Laura's report is correct, then that means that there were four people outside who were told not to go in because their body cameras weren't on them, which is just insane.

00:09:58.000 Now, meanwhile, the sheriff, Scott Israel, is doing his best to avoid all culpability.

00:10:03.000 Again, according to Laura Ingram,

00:10:04.000 Just a few hours ago, The Ingram Angle received copies of internal emails from a source close to the Broward Sheriff's Office, which has since been confirmed by a second source, that email urges all staff members to vigorously support Sheriff Israel. 0.97

00:10:16.000 So in other words, he's too busy defending his own ass to actually take responsibility for what went on in his department. 0.90

00:10:22.000 There's no question this guy's a political actor through and through. 0.99

00:10:25.000 Israel actually got into hot water back in December.

00:10:27.000 Why?

00:10:28.000 Because there were a bunch of Broward County Sheriff's cars and he put a wrap on the cars with his face on it for political purposes.

00:10:34.000 They were jokingly called Israelmobiles by members of the department.

00:10:38.000 And we obviously know the sheriff loves grandstanding.

00:10:40.000 We know he loves his camera time.

00:10:41.000 He's never run from a camera at any point.

00:10:44.000 And he apparently, and he knows full well what happened here.

00:10:46.000 We're just not getting all the information.

00:10:47.000 Now, there will be a full investigation that takes place.

00:10:50.000 I'm sure that we will find out what happened here.

00:10:52.000 I have very little doubt that it's going to cast even more aspersions toward his behavior in this whole thing.

00:10:58.000 It's truly disastrous and truly frightening.

00:11:00.000 And again,

00:11:01.000 The bottom line is this.

00:11:02.000 If you expect me to give up my weapon when the authorities won't even do their job, you must be out of your mind.

00:11:07.000 If you think that I'm going to give up my method for defending myself because the authorities want me to, and then they won't even defend my kids if my kids are going to a school that they are assigned, try again.

00:11:17.000 Not going to happen.

00:11:19.000 We know who blew it here.

00:11:21.000 It wasn't the NRA that blew it here.

00:11:23.000 It was the FBI.

00:11:24.000 It was the local law enforcement.

00:11:25.000 The reason this matters is because we keep hearing about how we need more laws on the books.

00:11:29.000 Well, more laws on the books aren't going to do anything if we're not enforcing the laws that are already on the books.

00:11:33.000 More laws aren't going to change anything if we're not actually changing things.

00:11:37.000 Which we're not, of course.

00:11:38.000 So, that means that more of these school shootings are likely to happen.

00:11:41.000 And the grandstanding doesn't help either.

00:11:43.000 Which brings us to the grandstanding itself.

00:11:46.000 So, there's been a ton of focus on a specific subset, I should say, of kids who were at the Parkland School, at Marjory Stoneman High School, when this happened.

00:11:57.000 And it's a very specific subset.

00:11:58.000 And you know all their names, right?

00:11:59.000 You know Cameron Kasky, you've seen him on TV.

00:12:01.000 And you know Emma Gonzales, you've seen her on TV as well.

00:12:05.000 And she has now over a million Twitter followers after having basically zero Twitter followers a week ago because the media have really been pushing her out there.

00:12:12.000 And of course, David Hogg, who's been on every TV show that he can possibly find.

00:12:15.000 Now, they have every right to speak as much as they want, and we have every right to criticize them as much as we want, because this is still the United States of America, and just because you went through something tough does not mean that you are an expert on what happened or why it happened.

00:12:27.000 It just means that you're an expert on suffering, as I've said here on the show a bunch of times.

00:12:32.000 But nonetheless, we are being treated to the awkward spectacle of these kids being trotted out there by a compliant media that actually, as Charlie Cook over at National Review says, are laundering their views through the moral bank accounts of these students.

00:12:46.000 All the people in the media wish they could call for a ban for guns every day on the air.

00:12:49.000 They can't.

00:12:50.000 So instead, they bring on these kids to do it for them.

00:12:52.000 That's the whole goal of having these kids as guests.

00:12:54.000 And the kids are saying things that are just insipid.

00:12:57.000 David Hogg, particularly, is a very bad spokesman for his point of view.

00:13:02.000 Just because he's a good-looking kid who can complete a sentence doesn't mean anything he says makes any sense.

00:13:08.000 And again, this is not a rip on him as a victim, this is a rip on him as a political commentator.

00:13:12.000 You either say things that are intelligent, or you don't.

00:13:14.000 And your experiences have nothing to do with it.

00:13:16.000 This is a form of identity politics.

00:13:17.000 In the same way that the left will maintain that your opinion should be gauged not based on the actual content or value of your opinion, but based on the color of your skin, your ethnicity, your religion, your background.

00:13:29.000 Instead of doing it on that basis, they're saying that we should now judge the decency of your viewpoint or the genius of your viewpoint based solely on whether you went through a terrible experience at a school shooting.

00:13:41.000 So here is David Hogg suggesting once again for the umpteenth time that politicians don't care about kids' lives.

00:13:47.000 He cares deeply about kids' lives, David Hogg.

00:13:49.000 He cares so deeply that he's called for a boycott of Amazon.

00:13:52.000 He's called for a boycott of the state of Florida because there's nothing like harming those family business owners down in Miami Beach.

00:13:58.000 You have to make sure that those new immigrants can't sell their tacos during spring break. 1.00

00:14:01.000 We've got to make sure that doesn't happen.

00:14:02.000 So, he wants people to boycott Florida until the gun laws in Florida change.

00:14:07.000 He has spoken at a rally in New Jersey.

00:14:09.000 He is pushing for a boycott against FedEx.

00:14:11.000 He says he's not going to go back to school until he gets what he wants.

00:14:14.000 Well, tough.

00:14:16.000 I mean, then don't go back to school.

00:14:17.000 That's not true anyway.

00:14:18.000 He will be back at school.

00:14:19.000 In any case, he was doing this routine again yesterday.

00:14:22.000 Politicians don't care about kids' lives. 1.00

00:14:24.000 This is the worst form of demagoguery, and here he is saying it.

00:14:27.000 These politicians don't care about these children's lives. 0.78

00:14:30.000 Notice how the only action being taken, for example, with Rick Scott, is after he is running for Senate to try to take Bill Nelson's seat.

00:14:37.000 That's what's going on here.

00:14:39.000 People need to acknowledge that.

00:14:40.000 And, like with Marco Rubio, for example, the man must be a professional dancer, just like other politicians, because he's great at sidestepping questions.

00:14:47.000 At the CNN town hall, he turned a one-

00:14:50.000 He didn't obstruct at all.

00:14:51.000 He said he would continue to take money from the NRA because he's a proponent of Second Amendment rights.

00:14:55.000 I mean, Senator Rubio was perfectly honest on that special.

00:15:16.000 about whether he would take money from the NRA.

00:15:19.000 Again, when David Hogg says all of these very, very silly things, when he suggests that it's about the governor, Rick Scott, or it's about the senator, Marco Rubio, Bill Nelson has nothing to do with it, right?

00:15:27.000 Bill Nelson has all the right views, so that's totally fine.

00:15:29.000 This is the same guy, David Hogg, who went on TV and defended Scott Israel, the actual sheriff of Broward County, right?

00:15:34.000 The guy who's botched everything.

00:15:36.000 The entire first part of the show is about all of the botchery by the sheriff's office, and yet somehow Rick Scott is responsible for the deputy not doing his job, but the sheriff's office is not responsible for the deputy doing his job.

00:15:46.000 Pretty astonishing stuff.

00:15:48.000 Pretty astonishing stuff.

00:15:49.000 Okay, so David Hogg goes out there and he says this sort of nonsense.

00:15:53.000 And then, of course, he's feeded by the media for it.

00:15:55.000 So Jimmy Fallon does the same thing.

00:15:57.000 Here's Jimmy Fallon praising the Parkland students and suggesting that they are all heroes and he is going to march with them.

00:16:03.000 So it's not enough, by the way, that we have one pope of politics in Jimmy Kimmel on late night.

00:16:08.000 Now we have to have two popes of politics on late night. 1.00

00:16:11.000 Jimmy Fallon joins Jimmy Kimmel in this effort

00:16:14.000 Stephen Colbert, of course, has been the Pope of Politics before, so we actually have the Holy Roman Empire, and the kingship is passed around, the emperorship is passed around between various parties depending on how the ratings are.

00:16:23.000 Fallon wants to get in the game because he's been ripped as too anodyne, as too lackluster, as not political enough by a lot of the left-wing commentators, and therefore he wants to get in the game.

00:16:33.000 So here is Jimmy Fallon doing his best Jimmy Kimmel impression.

00:16:35.000 He needs to grow a little bit of stubble and cry if he really wants to do this right.

00:16:38.000 I think what the students of Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School are doing is unbelievable.

00:16:43.000 They're speaking out with more guts, passion, conviction, and common sense than most adults.

00:16:49.000 They're high school students.

00:16:50.000 It's beyond impressive.

00:16:52.000 That strength that they have, it's inspiring.

00:16:55.000 They are angry, and they're doing something about it and creating change.

00:16:58.000 This is a real revolution.

00:17:00.000 And they have organized a peaceful march on Saturday, March 24th in Washington D.C.

00:17:05.000 to demand action to prevent gun violence.

00:17:08.000 I just want to say I stand behind you guys and I will be marching alongside you with my wife and two children in D.C.

00:17:14.000 to show our support.

00:17:15.000 Wow, how nice.

00:17:16.000 I mean, all the late night hosts immediately coming out and signaling, virtue signaling, that everything that these kids have to say is wonderful.

00:17:22.000 The bravery, the decency.

00:17:23.000 Okay, they're not going to talk to some of the other students.

00:17:26.000 They're not going to talk to some of the people who I've recommended that they talk to on the show.

00:17:30.000 They're not going to talk to Kyle Cashew, who still is unverified on Twitter, by the way.

00:17:34.000 Thank you for following him.

00:17:35.000 He's one of the students there who disagrees.

00:17:37.000 With some of these other students.

00:17:38.000 But he, of course, is not appearing every single day.

00:17:40.000 You don't know his name because he's not on CNN or MSNBC every single day.

00:17:44.000 Still, as I say, unverified on Twitter.

00:17:46.000 No shock there.

00:17:47.000 But again, this is what the entire Hollywood infrastructure is going to do.

00:17:51.000 The Oscars will be about that on Sunday night.

00:17:52.000 You watch.

00:17:54.000 They were going to do Me Too, but now this obviously allows them to virtue signal on another topic.

00:17:58.000 Now, never mind that half the people in the audience have done movies in which guns are glorified as the way of stopping violence.

00:18:04.000 Never mind that all those people are millionaires who are protected by armed security outside.

00:18:08.000 You watch, on Sunday during the Oscars, the entire thing will be about how we need to get rid of guns in our society, and then presumably all of our action movies can be Bruce Lee-style karate fights.

00:18:17.000 That's basically what all of these things will turn into.

00:18:21.000 So there's a problem with the suggestion that the children shall eat us and that the kids shall eat us.

00:18:28.000 It's a different problem even than the identity politics question of does victimhood confer expertise?

00:18:32.000 And that is a lot of kids are not

00:18:37.000 I mean, I'm not saying these kids who are speaking on TV aren't bright.

00:18:40.000 You know, for their age, I'm sure they're very bright.

00:18:42.000 I'm talking about, are these kids, are kids in general capable of the kind of decision making that adults are capable of?

00:18:49.000 And the answer, as a general rule, is no, which is why, of course, we have legal restrictions on kids buying cigarettes and kids buying alcohol and kids buying guns and all the rest of this sort of thing.

00:18:56.000 There's a reason that 16 year olds don't vote. 0.99

00:18:59.000 Now, there are a lot of people who have gotten on my case for saying this because I was writing syndicated columns at 17.

00:19:03.000 Well, that's fine.

00:19:04.000 You know, I was taking flack at 17, too.

00:19:06.000 And there were people saying I was too young to write columns then. 0.99

00:19:09.000 And some of the stuff I wrote, I think, was dumb.

00:19:11.000 You know, like, if I look back at the stuff that I wrote when I was 17, I think a lot of it's good. 0.67

00:19:15.000 I think some of it's not so good.

00:19:16.000 And I hope that I've matured over a period of time.

00:19:18.000 People generally do.

00:19:20.000 But that's sort of the point.

00:19:21.000 When you grant this pure virtue to children to be our political leaders, it doesn't end well.

00:19:29.000 So I'm going to show you some video of it not ending well.

00:19:31.000 So over in Bakersfield yesterday, there was a student protest over guns.

00:19:34.000 Now, why there should be a student protest over guns in Bakersfield, in the state with the most gun restrictions in America, right?

00:19:39.000 California, where I live, has incredible gun restrictions.

00:19:42.000 There was a protest over in Bakersfield.

00:19:44.000 And the kids, of course, used this as an excuse to leave school and basically run roughshod through the community.

00:19:49.000 Let's face it, most of the kids who are getting involved in this cause are not doing so because they want the extra credit in class or because they deeply care about the issue or know anything about the issue.

00:19:57.000 They're doing it because it's fun.

00:19:59.000 Just like most protesters do things because they are fun.

00:20:01.000 Okay, so here is some video of the kids and notice how the adults essentially let them have their way because after all, kids are our moral leaders now.

00:20:07.000 This is clip 16.

00:20:08.000 Hundreds of students took to the streets to protest gun violence.

00:20:14.000 These students from Stagg High School were told by officers to disperse the streets.

00:20:19.000 The Stockton School District says what started out as a peaceful protest on campus turned rowdy as about 100 of 300 students jumped the fence of the school.

00:20:29.000 Some were seen throwing rocks at cars, including police cars.

00:20:34.000 I'm really upset that I'm on my way to school.

00:20:38.000 Like, I go to Delta College, so I'm on my way to school and I can't even get in my car now.

00:20:42.000 I'm about to cry.

00:20:43.000 Okay, yeah, those are the kids who ought to lead us.

00:20:45.000 Those are the kids who ought to lead us.

00:20:46.000 Now, not every kid is these kids, obviously, but to suggest that children are the wisest among us, yeah, no, they're not.

00:20:53.000 Okay, I have two kids.

00:20:54.000 I remember being as young as these kids. 0.99

00:20:56.000 When you're 14, 15 years old, you don't have a lot of, there's not a lot going on upstairs that prevents you from doing stupid things. 0.92

00:21:02.000 This is in Stockton, not Bakersfield, obviously, but when you grant absolute moral immunity to kids because they are young, 0.98

00:21:08.000 You end up with worse kids.

00:21:09.000 One of the worst things that you can do as a parent is suggest to your children that they have the absolute moral immunity to do whatever they want.

00:21:18.000 Parenting is about teaching and cultivating children.

00:21:21.000 It is not about granting children leadership positions and suggesting that in the absence of knowledge they ought to lead us because after all they're so innocent and the innocent children among us shall lead. 0.89

00:21:28.000 I think that's just absolutely silly.

00:21:31.000 Now,

00:21:32.000 These kids and their impact, they wouldn't be making this sort of, they wouldn't be as big a phenomenon as they've become, except that the media have obviously magnified their influence to tremendous, tremendous effect.

00:21:44.000 And the media are even worse at this stuff than a lot of the child advocates are.

00:21:49.000 They're members of the media who legitimately know nothing about what they're talking about. 0.98

00:21:52.000 So, we're going to show you some members of the media saying things about guns that are utterly asinine. 0.92

00:21:57.000 And then they're supposed to, we're supposed to believe they're experts? 0.87

00:21:59.000 We're supposed to believe that these people know what they're talking about?

00:22:01.000 I mean, really, really astonishing.

00:22:04.000 So here's Stephanie Ruhle on MSNBC making one of the worst arguments in history for why we ought to ban rifles. 1.00

00:22:19.000 Making it ready to fire again.

00:22:21.000 Handguns can also be semi-automatic, but some, like revolvers, they're not.

00:22:26.000 Meaning it can take a lot longer to fire multiple rounds.

00:22:29.000 Another big difference, the speed of bullets.

00:22:31.000 The AR-15 can fire bullets between 2,800 and 3,000 feet per second.

00:22:35.000 A 9mm handgun, between 700 and 1,100 feet per second.

00:22:43.000 So I'm really enjoying the media doing this routine about the speed of bullets as though that is the only thing that matters in terms of the amount of damage that is done.

00:22:50.000 The caliber of the bullet matters also, right?

00:22:52.000 The size of the actual bullet matters.

00:22:54.000 Beyond that, if we're going to talk about guns that are used in the killings of human beings, there's no question that rifles are the vast minority of guns that are used in the killing of other human beings in the United States.

00:23:05.000 Like, 13% of all murders involving guns involve rifles.

00:23:09.000 60% involve handguns.

00:23:11.000 And then the rest involve weapons that have not really been specified.

00:23:14.000 The notion, again, that we're going to measure the velocity of the bullets, and that therefore we ought to ban rifles but not ban handguns, 0.79

00:23:23.000 It's just silly. 0.72

00:23:24.000 And again, if you're going to make the argument that Lawrence O'Donnell made the other night, that a person with a handgun can't stop somebody with an AR-15, that's, again, ridiculous, considering that in the congressional baseball shooting, the guy apparently had an AR-15, and it was a person with a handgun who took him down. 0.95

00:23:38.000 This happens fairly regularly. 0.96

00:23:40.000 But it's not just Stephanie Ruhle making a fool of herself. 1.00

00:23:43.000 This one was making the rounds yesterday.

00:23:44.000 Local NBC trying to show you what the firing of an AR looks like and how much damage it can do.

00:23:50.000 Take a look at this video used to shoot a watermelon using an AR-15.

00:23:57.000 Yeah, there's only one problem with that particular video.

00:23:59.000 That is definitely not an AR-15 right there.

00:24:01.000 That is a shotgun.

00:24:01.000 That is a pump-action shotgun.

00:24:03.000 It's not even a semi-automatic shotgun.

00:24:04.000 It's a pump-action shotgun, meaning that you have to manually chamber the round.

00:24:08.000 So, well done, media.

00:24:09.000 Yes, I'm definitely going to trust you on what types of guns ought to be banned when you literally cannot tell the difference between a semi-automatic, an automatic, and a manual revolver, for example, when you can't explain to me why it is that velocity of a handgun matters as opposed to velocity of a rifle. 0.75

00:24:26.000 All of this is just ridiculous.

00:24:28.000 And then, of course, you have the people grandstanding off the back of this who, again, know nothing about guns. 0.97

00:24:33.000 Whoopi Goldberg, yesterday on The View, suggesting that the GOP is silent about guns because the GOP is corrupt.

00:24:39.000 But does Whoopi Goldberg know the first thing about guns or how any of these gun laws would affect anybody?

00:24:42.000 Does she know how many AR-15s are in circulation?

00:24:44.000 The answer is at least 8 million in the United States.

00:24:46.000 Does she know how many rifles are in circulation in the United States?

00:24:49.000 Tens of millions.

00:24:50.000 Does she know the answer to how many guns are in circulation in the United States?

00:24:53.000 Or where the crime rates are highest?

00:24:54.000 Or which states have the highest rates of gun violence?

00:24:56.000 Or how many of the killings with guns are actually suicides?

00:24:59.000 The answer is two-thirds.

00:25:01.000 Right?

00:25:01.000 Does Whoopi Goldberg know any of that?

00:25:02.000 No.

00:25:02.000 She just knows that guns are bad, and so she's gonna rip on the GOP for being silent about guns.

00:25:06.000 She makes, I think, the dumbest point of the day yesterday on The View, the repository of many dumb points. 0.99

00:25:11.000 Here she is. 0.99

00:25:11.000 You know, when the athletes were kneeling, every Republican sort of had something to say. 0.99

00:25:17.000 And it's not a criticism.

00:25:19.000 It's just, I'm just wondering, and many have been wondering, where they've been, where they stand on this particular issue.

00:25:28.000 Okay, and the answer is that all of the Republicans sounded off on players kneeling because they thought players kneeling was wrong.

00:25:33.000 They haven't sounded off about law-abiding citizens owning guns because they don't think law-abiding citizens owning guns is wrong or bad.

00:25:39.000 This is not difficult.

00:25:40.000 There's an actual political reason, an actual values reason, why so many conservatives are not speaking up about why guns should be confiscated because we don't think guns should be confiscated or the sale of them should be banned.

00:25:52.000 And again, it's amazing to me.

00:25:52.000 I've proposed on this program at least three different measures that we could all take as a society in order to push forward against the scourge of mass shootings.

00:26:03.000 And none of these have been seriously discussed by the media.

00:26:05.000 They would prefer to just shout, guns, guns, guns, ban, ban, ban, confiscate, confiscate, confiscate.

00:26:09.000 But none of them actually want to talk about serious, hard proposals.

00:26:12.000 The Democrats, apparently, have now made a move in the House.

00:26:15.000 They've introduced a piece of legislation to ban all semi-automatic rifles.

00:26:19.000 Of course, this is going nowhere, and they know it.

00:26:21.000 The reason they're proposing it is because they want kudos from a bunch of the people in the media.

00:26:26.000 They want to campaign on it.

00:26:27.000 As I've said before, the Democrats had control of Congress.

00:26:29.000 They had full control of the Senate, meaning 60 votes in the Senate.

00:26:32.000 They had control of the House.

00:26:33.000 They had control of the presidency from 2009 to 2011.

00:26:36.000 Did they pass one single gun regulation?

00:26:38.000 The answer, of course,

00:26:39.000 Is no.

00:26:40.000 They waited until Republicans took office, and now they get to grandstand.

00:26:42.000 They get to stand there and claim that it's Republicans who are standing between Americans and safety.

00:26:47.000 If those dastardly Republicans would just get out of the way, then we'd be able to pass some really good regulations.

00:26:53.000 They have no intention of pushing anything remotely resembling a good regulation.

00:26:57.000 They just want a posture about all of this.

00:26:59.000 And fortunately, they have the media to do it for them.

00:27:01.000 They have the media to stand there and do it for them.

00:27:03.000 Now, there are some folks who are actually mentioning some solutions.

00:27:07.000 You know, those folks actually include the presidents of the United States.

00:27:10.000 So the president of the United States has actually put forward a couple of different proposals.

00:27:14.000 I think some of those proposals are smart.

00:27:16.000 I think some of those proposals are not so smart.

00:27:18.000 One of the proposals that he put out yesterday was actually, you know, in our good Trump, bad Trump matrix, this goes in good Trump, Trump talked about

00:27:26.000 You know, in the old days, we had mental institutions.

00:27:46.000 Get a lot of them.

00:27:47.000 And you could nab somebody like this, because, you know, they did.

00:27:50.000 They knew he was—something was off.

00:27:52.000 You had to know that.

00:27:54.000 People were calling all over the place.

00:27:56.000 You can't arrest him, I guess, because he hasn't done anything, but you know he's like a boiler ready to explode, right?

00:28:01.000 So he's—he just—you have to do something.

00:28:04.000 But you can't put him in jail, I guess, because he hasn't done anything.

00:28:08.000 But in the old days, you'd put them into a mental institution.

00:28:10.000 Okay, this is 100% true.

00:28:13.000 It sounds harsh, what Trump is saying.

00:28:14.000 What he is saying here is 100% true.

00:28:16.000 E. Fuller Torrey is a famous psychologist.

00:28:20.000 I've recommended his books on the program before.

00:28:22.000 He's founder of the Treatment Advocacy Center and his latest book is American Psychosis.

00:28:27.000 I think so.

00:28:43.000 I think so.

00:29:00.000 Well, over the next 17 years, the Feds funded nearly 800 of these, with a total of what would be about $20 billion in today's dollars.

00:29:08.000 And during those same years, the number of patients in state mental hospitals dropped from 500,000 people to 132,000 people, and the beds were closed down.

00:29:13.000 Well, it turns out the community mental health

00:29:19.000 We're not interested actually in taking care of patients who are being discharged from the state hospitals, meaning the people who are the most unsafe.

00:29:27.000 Instead, they're focusing on people with less severe problems, people who were then termed the worried well.

00:29:33.000 So, you know, the normal person who's taking an antidepressant now.

00:29:36.000 This is what these centers focused on.

00:29:38.000 So, state mental institutions, which were very bad places, were replaced by something even worse, which was nothing.

00:29:44.000 And so a lot of these people ended up on the streets.

00:29:46.000 There was no way to forcibly, involuntarily commit somebody.

00:29:53.000 It became very difficult to actually get somebody who was dangerous to themselves into a treatment facility.

00:29:58.000 Right now, you have to provide serious evidence that somebody is a threat to themselves or others, which means an actual suicide attempt.

00:30:05.000 It means an actual suicide attempt in most states.

00:30:08.000 You just acting like this shooter acted may not be enough in some of these states.

00:30:14.000 So, as E. Fuller Tory writes, he says, And he concludes,

00:30:34.000 Approximately half of the mentally ill individuals discharged from state mental hospitals, many of whom had family support, sought outpatient treatment and have done well.

00:30:42.000 The other half, many of whom lack family support and suffer from the most severe illnesses such as schizophrenia and bipolar disorder, have done poorly.

00:30:49.000 According to multiple studies,

00:30:50.000 Untreated mentally ill are responsible for 10% of all homicides and a higher percentage of mass killings, constitute 20% of jail and prison inmates, and are at least 30% of the homeless.

00:30:59.000 Severely mentally ill individuals now inundate hospital emergency rooms.

00:31:03.000 They've colonized libraries, parks, train stations, and other public spaces.

00:31:06.000 This is not their fault.

00:31:07.000 Okay, and we've spent a ton of money on it.

00:31:10.000 The total cost on mental illness through all these supplemental programs is $46 billion.

00:31:15.000 The total cost for mentally ill individuals through Medicaid and Medicare is $60 billion.

00:31:19.000 That $46 billion is just SSI or SSDI.

00:31:24.000 It's a huge increase in what we are spending and we are not getting what we paid for.

00:31:27.000 And part of that is because of the social liberals who decided that it was important to release people onto the streets as an element of freedom.

00:31:33.000 They all read One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest and decided that the entire institutional system was Nurse Ratched.

00:31:39.000 That wasn't true.

00:31:40.000 It was never true.

00:31:41.000 Okay, so in a second, I'm going to show you some stuff that Trump said that was not as great.

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00:32:31.000 Okay, now with all of that said, with regard to what President Trump had to say that was good, President Trump also had some stuff to say that was not good.

00:32:38.000 And this is where, you know, President Trump is an unguided missile.

00:32:41.000 President Trump says a lot of stuff.

00:32:43.000 What he actually implements very rarely ends up being some of the weird ideas that he puts out there.

00:32:48.000 Yeah, I've learned over the past year that you ought to pay less attention to what he says he's going to do on policy and more attention to what he actually does on policy.

00:32:56.000 But some of the stuff that he said yesterday about guns was less than edifying.

00:33:01.000 So yesterday he was talking about the deputy who apparently was armed outside and did not run into harm's way to try to save the students.

00:33:08.000 He said that he himself, Trump said he himself, would have confronted the shooter.

00:33:12.000 You know, I really believe, you don't know until you test it, but I think, I really believe I'd run in there even if I didn't have a weapon, and I think most of the people in this room would have done that too, because I know most of you.

00:33:23.000 Um, um, no.

00:33:26.000 I'm just gonna put that out there, no.

00:33:28.000 No, I don't think most people would run into the line of fire unarmed of a guy who had a rifle.

00:33:35.000 I think that is really, really unlikely.

00:33:38.000 I think the likelihood that President Trump, who does not, shall we say, have a stellar record on military matters personally,

00:33:45.000 He, you know, obviously his bone spurs prevented him from serving in the Vietnam War, and then he suggested that his personal Vietnam War was avoiding STDs during the 1970s.

00:33:54.000 I'm gonna go no on that.

00:33:58.000 We can all call on this law enforcement officer to have done his job, but I think that it's a bit of an exaggeration to suggest that you personally are gonna go in there and save the children by running in there without a gun.

00:34:06.000 That's the whole point.

00:34:07.000 You do need a gun in order to stop a bad guy with a gun, as a general rule.

00:34:10.000 And then Trump followed that up by saying that he's willing to buck the NRA and consider some possibilities.

00:34:15.000 Now, is this smart politics?

00:34:16.000 It probably is.

00:34:17.000 It's smart of him.

00:34:18.000 He knows that the NRA folks are going to back him no matter what.

00:34:20.000 The NRA has become extraordinarily pro-Trump in a way that I think is actually not advantageous to them politically.

00:34:25.000 I think the NRA ought to remain a bipartisan coalition of gun owners.

00:34:29.000 I think the fact that they've gone so hard pro-Trump is a mistake.

00:34:32.000 It alienates a lot of people.

00:34:34.000 But Trump is saying something smart politically, but probably dumb in terms of policy, saying that he's going to buck the NRA and consider some measures that they may not want him to consider.

00:34:42.000 What about the NRA?

00:34:44.000 They're on our side.

00:34:44.000 You guys, half of you are so afraid of the NRA.

00:34:47.000 There's nothing to be afraid of.

00:34:49.000 And you know what?

00:34:49.000 If they're not with you, we have to fight them every once in a while.

00:34:52.000 That's okay.

00:34:54.000 They're doing what they think is right.

00:34:55.000 I will tell you, they are doing what they think is right.

00:34:59.000 But sometimes we're going to have to be very tough and we're going to have to fight them.

00:35:01.000 But we need strong background checks.

00:35:03.000 For a long period of time, people resisted that.

00:35:06.000 But now people, I think, are really into it.

00:35:09.000 And John Cornyn, great guy, Senator, Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan, and Kevin McCarthy, hopefully, are going to work on some legislation.

00:35:18.000 I hope you guys, they started already.

00:35:21.000 In fact, John has legislation in.

00:35:23.000 We're going to strengthen it.

00:35:24.000 We're going to make it more pertinent to what we're discussing.

00:35:28.000 But he's already started the process.

00:35:30.000 We've already started.

00:35:30.000 So we'll find out what comes out here.

00:35:32.000 But Trump obviously wants to make some inroads by pushing the NRA a little bit off to the side.

00:35:38.000 Do I think that that's wise?

00:35:40.000 Politically, it probably is wise.

00:35:41.000 In terms of policy, we'll have to see what actually comes out. 0.72

00:35:43.000 Now, in terms of people who are hypocrites, this is just breaking news from the Huffington Post.

00:35:47.000 This is an amazing thing.

00:35:48.000 On the morning after the October 1st mass shooting in Las Vegas,

00:35:51.000 A member of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee's press staff warned House candidates and their staffs not to politicize the shooting that day.

00:35:58.000 Politicization, according to the DCCC official, included talking about gun violence prevention policy.

00:36:03.000 He says you and your candidate will be understandably outraged and upset, as will your community.

00:36:07.000 However, do not politicize it today.

00:36:09.000 There will be a time for politics and policy discussion, but any message today should be on offering thoughts and prayers for victims and their families, and thanking first responders who saved lives.

00:36:18.000 So this, of course, would be wise politics, but the Democrats have run screaming from this.

00:36:22.000 The guy who wrote it was Evan Lukasky.

00:36:24.000 Lukasky is one of the—he's the DCC regional press secretary, I guess.

00:36:30.000 And people are very angry at him and the Democratic Party for having said this.

00:36:35.000 But look, even a bunch of people who are gun control advocates are now saying there's not a whole hell of a lot that we can do in order to stop these mass shootings and we're not going to call for actual bans on semi-automatic weapons.

00:36:46.000 Again, showing the hypocrisy of all the folks on the left who are virtue signaling.

00:36:49.000 Speaking of the virtue signaling, there's now been a call to boycott FedEx.

00:36:54.000 There's been a call to boycott Amazon because you can buy NRA products on Amazon.

00:36:58.000 That boycott has been called for, I believe, Thursday.

00:37:01.000 So, that would be a good time to buy from Amazon, folks.

00:37:03.000 If you want to go and buy something, now's the time to buy it on Amazon.

00:37:06.000 Demonstrate that you stand with companies that are not going to close off alternative political viewpoints out of political convenience and expediency.

00:37:14.000 So, check that out.

00:37:15.000 Buy something from Amazon on Amazon Prime on Thursday.

00:37:19.000 I love Amazon.

00:37:20.000 I'd be very upset with them were they to try and disassociate politically from Second Amendment advocates just because the media would like them to.

00:37:28.000 Okay.

00:37:28.000 Time for a couple of things that I like and then some things that I hate.

00:37:32.000 So, first a couple of things that I like.

00:37:37.000 I've been writing this book on philosophy.

00:37:39.000 It is not the easiest book to write because a lot of deep thinking.

00:37:42.000 And that means that I have to listen to deep music while I do this.

00:37:45.000 That's how pretentious I am.

00:37:47.000 I'm so pretentious that when somebody tweeted out today, what album has the three best songs in a row on it?

00:37:53.000 I tweeted out three separate numbers from Bizet's Carmen.

00:37:56.000 Yeah, that's how much of a douche I am.

00:37:58.000 In any case, what I recommend today is Brahms' String Quintet No.

00:38:03.000 1, which is just a lovely piece of music.

00:38:05.000 I've gotten very into listening to Brahms while I work.

00:38:08.000 Just wonderful stuff.

00:38:09.000 Here's Brahms' String Quintet No. 1.

00:38:32.000 I don't want to do the rest of the show now.

00:38:33.000 I just want to listen to this.

00:38:35.000 Brahms is fantastic.

00:38:37.000 A couple of other favorites that I've been listening to recently.

00:38:39.000 Brahms' Piano Quartet No.

00:38:41.000 1 is fantastic.

00:38:41.000 His piano trios are all terrific and really, really romantic and melodic.

00:38:48.000 So check those out.

00:38:49.000 They're really a blast to listen to, and they're very relaxing as well.

00:38:53.000 Okay.

00:38:54.000 Other things that I like.

00:38:55.000 So I wanted to play this yesterday, and I did not have a chance.

00:38:58.000 It is the best piece of audio ever.

00:39:00.000 So, Michael Wolff. 0.99

00:39:02.000 The author of Fire and Fury, a charlatan, a con man, a guy who went into the White House and basically just wrote down all of Steve Bannon's pathetic musings and then turned it into a book about how everybody in the Trump White House was incompetent and stupid and all the rest of this. 0.97

00:39:14.000 So Michael Wolff was on Australian Today Show and he was asked some pretty specific questions about You Say. 0.97

00:39:19.000 Was it the BBC?

00:39:21.000 I'm trying to remember where this was.

00:39:23.000 In any case,

00:39:24.000 He was asked specifically—it was London's Today Show, rather—he was asked specifically about whether he had any evidence to the effect that Donald Trump was having an affair, which he had implied.

00:39:34.000 He had suggested that Nikki Haley was having an affair with Trump, which of course is absolute bunk.

00:39:38.000 There is no evidence to support it whatsoever, and Wolf has been implying it anyway.

00:39:42.000 Well, Wolf is asked specific questions.

00:39:44.000 Watch as he pretends he can't hear the audio, but notice something weird about this.

00:39:48.000 OK, he only says that he can't hear the audio every time the person asks him if he can hear the audio.

00:39:53.000 So pretty astonishing stuff.

00:39:54.000 Here it is.

00:39:54.000 Michael Wolff doing his dishonest routine.

00:39:57.000 You said during a TV interview just last month that you are absolutely sure that Donald Trump is currently having an affair while president behind the back of the first lady.

00:40:07.000 And I repeat, you said you were absolutely sure.

00:40:10.000 Yeah, I can't.

00:40:11.000 Last week, however, you backflipped and said, I quote, I do not know if the president is having an affair.

00:40:17.000 Do you owe the President and the First Lady an apology, Mr. Wolf?

00:40:21.000 I can't hear you.

00:40:24.000 Just last month, you said you were absolutely sure that the President was having an affair.

00:40:31.000 I'm not getting anything.

00:40:33.000 You're not hearing me, Mr. Wolf?

00:40:36.000 I'm not getting anything.

00:40:39.000 We were hearing each other well just before.

00:40:41.000 You're not hearing me, Mr. Wolf?

00:40:45.000 Do you hear?

00:40:46.000 I'm not...

00:40:47.000 I'm not hearing anything.

00:40:48.000 The dwarf was hearing me before, but he's not hearing me.

00:40:51.000 I'm not hearing anything.

00:40:52.000 No, it looks like.

00:40:54.000 And then he just gets up and leaves the interview.

00:40:57.000 He doesn't even wait to see if the audio is going to come back in because it didn't go out in the first place.

00:41:02.000 So, Michael Wolff, remember, this was the person that the media were fawning over.

00:41:05.000 This was the great genius who had uncovered the truth behind the facade of the Trump administration. 1.00

00:41:10.000 Oh my goodness, what utter stupidity. 1.00

00:41:12.000 Just grand watching Michael Wolff implode like that. 1.00

00:41:15.000 So, well done, Michael Wolff.

00:41:17.000 And we've got to do something about this spate of earpieces that don't work.

00:41:20.000 Apparently, whether it's Trump with Jake Tapper or whether it is Michael Wolff, when you hear a question you don't like, suddenly the earpiece just bugs out.

00:41:26.000 Very weird, very weird stuff.

00:41:28.000 Okay, time for a couple of things that I hate. 0.99

00:41:35.000 Okay, so thing number one that I hate, the NCAA has been under severe attack because the NCAA does have a couple of stupid rules. 0.96

00:41:43.000 Some of these stupid rules include that if you are in college and playing for a college basketball team on scholarship, so let's say that you're getting a scholarship that's worth 45 grand a year, that this somehow compensates you for the use of your name. 0.97

00:41:53.000 And the NCAA can use your name on its jerseys, they can sell those jerseys, they can make millions of dollars off of you, and you have been fairly compensated with your 45 grand. 0.99

00:42:02.000 This is absolutely asinine. 0.94

00:42:04.000 I've always thought the NCAA policy here was gross. 0.98

00:42:07.000 The same thing is true of one-and-done. 0.93

00:42:08.000 I think the one-and-done rule in college is ridiculous.

00:42:11.000 I think you should be allowed to go directly to the NBA if you want to go to the NBA.

00:42:13.000 Kobe Bryant did it.

00:42:14.000 LeBron James could do it.

00:42:16.000 There have been a bunch of people who tried it and failed.

00:42:17.000 That's okay.

00:42:18.000 That's your prerogative.

00:42:19.000 There is no one-and-done rule in baseball, by the way.

00:42:21.000 You can go directly from high school to the minor leagues with no stop in between. 0.95

00:42:25.000 The one-and-done rule is particularly stupid because all of these kids who are going to college for a year are not suddenly deciding to stick around and pursue their business economics degree. 0.84

00:42:33.000 They're not sticking around because they really want to go into—all these kids who are going to play at Kentucky on scholarship, they're not actually going there because they are deeply invested in getting their neuroscience degree. 0.97

00:42:44.000 They're going there because they know they have to play there for a year before they can be drafted by the NBA, which is why John Calipari has been making a pretty solid living for years and years and years by simply recruiting four or five guys who will be there for a year, renting them for a year, and then sending them on to the NBA. 0.98

00:42:58.000 Well, that policy is really stupid. 0.98

00:42:59.000 What that policy is not is racist. 0.99

00:43:01.000 What that policy is, it's a way for the NBA to prevent a glut of younger players who don't know what they're doing, and it's a way for the NCAA to make a lot of money.

00:43:08.000 This is greed, not racism.

00:43:10.000 It's not the same thing.

00:43:12.000 Stan Van Gundy, though, says that one and done is racist.

00:43:15.000 Again, I don't think it's racist.

00:43:16.000 I've said before that it is weird to me.

00:43:19.000 That somehow baseball has never made this rule, but the NBA has.

00:43:22.000 Again, I don't think that has to do with race so much as it has to do with the minor leagues.

00:43:26.000 There is a minor league that exists in baseball that does not exist in basketball, right?

00:43:31.000 There's a D-League, but that's a new creation, essentially.

00:43:36.000 The minor leagues are a job, and people will work in the minor leagues for 10 years.

00:43:38.000 Nobody's in the D-League for 10 years.

00:43:40.000 In any case, here is Stan Van Gundy suggesting that one and done itself is a racist policy.

00:43:45.000 The people that were against them coming out made a lot of excuses, but I think a lot of it was racist, quite honestly.

00:43:52.000 And the reason I'm going to say that is nobody, I've never heard anybody like go up in arms about, oh my god, they're letting these kids come out and go play minor league baseball, or they're letting these kids come out and go play minor league hockey.

00:44:05.000 They're not making big money.

00:44:08.000 And they're white kids, primarily, and nobody has a problem.

00:44:10.000 But all of a sudden now, you've got a black kid that wants to come out of high school and make millions. 1.00

00:44:15.000 That's a bad decision?

00:44:17.000 But bypassing college to go play for $800 a month in minor league baseball, that's a fine decision?

00:44:23.000 What the hell is going on?

00:44:25.000 The NCAA is one of the worst organizations, maybe the worst organization,

00:44:30.000 So I agree with his critique on the NCAA.

00:44:43.000 I don't agree with his critique with regard to the race issue. 1.00

00:44:47.000 Again, using race as a proxy for bad decision making I think is kind of stupid. 0.99

00:44:51.000 And I totally agree with his entire critique of the NCAA. 1.00

00:44:54.000 I think the NCAA is ridiculous. 0.85

00:44:55.000 I think that you have to 1.00

00:44:57.000 When you see people selling shoes for a little bit of extra money, and suddenly this is some sort of terrible thing, it's just stupid all the way through. 0.94

00:45:06.000 That is something I would like to see, and I'd like to see the NCAA change its policy pretty radically. 0.96

00:45:11.000 Eric Dickerson said the same thing.

00:45:12.000 He said, this is slavery.

00:45:13.000 It's not slavery.

00:45:14.000 It's not remotely resembling slavery.

00:45:16.000 Slavery is when people are owned and their labor is owned. 0.96

00:45:19.000 It is not when you voluntarily give up your labor in order so that you can get a college scholarship and then have a shot at the NBA.

00:45:24.000 So let's not go overboard here.

00:45:26.000 Okay, so tomorrow we will be broadcasting from Nebraska, where we will be preparing to speak at Creighton.

00:45:32.000 I'm really looking forward to it, and I'm going to do that speech.

00:45:36.000 I think I've decided I'm going to do a full-on policy speech about guns.

00:45:41.000 I'm going to explain what gun rights are, where they come from,

00:45:44.000 What gun policies work, what gun policies do not.

00:45:46.000 We'll take it on from a statistical level, a moral level, a constitutional level.

00:45:50.000 So that will be a full-on examination of the issue.

00:45:52.000 I'm looking forward to giving a Creighton tomorrow night.

00:45:53.000 If you're going to that, I look forward to seeing you there.

00:45:55.000 If not, you should be able to watch it online.

00:45:57.000 We will be back here tomorrow with more.

00:45:58.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - February 27, 2018

The Parkland Story Gets Even Worse | Ep. 484

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