The Ben Shapiro Show - The Poop Hits The Sidewalk | Ep. 918

00:00:00.000 The Supreme Court gives the go-ahead to sleeping on the streets, Democrats have the votes for impeachment, and Rudy claims he's got the goods on Joe and Hunter Biden.

00:00:07.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:00:07.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

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00:00:20.000 We're going to get to everything impeachment related momentarily.

00:00:22.000 As I've been saying now for weeks, this is all a foregone conclusion.

00:00:25.000 Nothing really new is happening.

00:00:27.000 This is all just a dog and pony show at this point.

00:00:30.000 But there are some wrinkles to the dog and pony show.

00:00:31.000 We'll bring those to you momentarily in a much bigger issue that will have more long lasting ramifications for Americans than this impeachment debacle.

00:00:38.000 Because the impeachment A far bigger issue is the fact that America's major cities are now collapsing in on themselves like dying stars.

00:00:43.000 move forward to 2020 and whoever wins will win and whoever loses will lose.

00:00:47.000 That's the way this is going to work.

00:00:48.000 A far bigger issue is the fact that America's major cities are now collapsing in on themselves like dying stars.

00:00:53.000 America's major cities are becoming worse and worse in terms of living standards for the people who live there.

00:00:59.000 And that's not true for every city, but it's certainly true for cities like Los Angeles I'm old enough to remember one Los Angeles where I've lived nearly my entire life, with the exception of three years in Massachusetts when I was in law school.

00:01:10.000 Every w- It has gone from a very livable, nice city, particularly in the suburbs, to an incredibly dirty city where there are insane amounts of litter, trash on the streets, open needles in suburban areas and near schools.

00:01:24.000 We've got homeless people on nearly every corner.

00:01:26.000 There is not an embankment in Los Angeles that is not occupied by homeless people all over the city.

00:01:33.000 And that is because major cities around the United States have refused to do what is necessary in arresting people and ensuring that they actually have a place to go with regard to not just housing, but in terms of mental illness, in terms of drug abuse.

00:01:46.000 One of the obvious facts about homelessness in major cities is that it is largely driven by mental illness, severe mental illness, and drug abuse and alcohol abuse.

00:01:55.000 And that means that you have to approach this thing with both a carrot and a stick.

00:01:59.000 So what the left would like to do is approach this thing with just the carrot.

00:02:02.000 Say, okay, well here's some housing.

00:02:03.000 Here's some housing that we've built for you.

00:02:05.000 And we've seen this in Los Angeles where it's costing like half a million dollars to build a unit of housing thanks to building regulations because the government is insane.

00:02:12.000 And that means that it'll cost you more to house somebody for a year than to do pretty much anything else with them in the state of California and in the city of Los Angeles.

00:02:22.000 You've seen this approach taken also in Seattle, where they've set up what they literally have started, it's called drunk dorms, where there are no restrictions on who can live in these areas.

00:02:29.000 And as it turns out, a lot of homeless people don't actually want to live under the same roof with a bunch of other homeless people who may in fact be violent alcoholics.

00:02:37.000 So that's been a serious problem.

00:02:39.000 You have to combine this with a stick approach.

00:02:41.000 Yes, you have to have the carrot of a place for people to go, but you also have to have the stick approach, which is if you violate the law, we will send you to jail.

00:02:48.000 And if you keep violating the law, we will keep sending you to jail.

00:02:51.000 And also, if we want paranoid schizophrenics off the streets, they will require some mandatory treatment.

00:02:56.000 And that does not mean that you get to simply walk out of the treatment facility when you feel like you are cured, and then go right back to the streets where you are not taking your proper medication.

00:03:07.000 This comes as somebody From somebody who has, my grandfather was a schizophrenic.

00:03:12.000 His life was saved by the fact that he was taking medication at a mental facility.

00:03:18.000 He was actually put away in a mental facility for like a year, and, or eight months, a year, and it saved his life.

00:03:26.000 You have to have the legal ability to take people who cannot care for themselves and put them in a position where they receive the care that they need.

00:03:33.000 And the whole point of severe mental illness is that you are unable to control yourself.

00:03:37.000 The same thing is true of severe drug addiction.

00:03:39.000 If you cannot arrest people for living on the street and then put them in mandatory drug rehab, it's going to be very difficult to ever move them off the street.

00:03:46.000 And the housing-only approach has failed pretty much everywhere that it's tried.

00:03:49.000 The only place where it supposedly succeeded was Salt Lake City, and that turned into such a money pit That Salt Lake City had to cut its own expenditures on housing.

00:03:56.000 Also, it happens that Salt Lake City is supported in huge amounts by the social fabric of the Mormon Church, which is there to provide all sorts of social support for people who are homeless, provides all sorts of services there.

00:04:09.000 Those sorts of services don't exist in major cities around the country, and when government does provide those sorts of social services, it actually acts as a magnet for homelessness.

00:04:18.000 And in fact, even in Salt Lake City, after a 91% decrease in homelessness over a decade, they saw, for two straight years, each year, a doubling of the homeless population after it became widely publicized that they were giving away all sorts of goodies to homeless people because, as it turns out, that is an incentive structure.

00:04:33.000 Well, part of the issue here has to be part of the solution has to be the threat of law enforcement taking your stuff, arresting you, putting you in into mandatory drug rehabilitation, placing you into a mental facility, a mental health facility where you receive mandatory drugs that will that will help care for your severe mental illness.

00:04:54.000 All of these things need to be on the table.

00:04:55.000 None of them are on the table.

00:04:56.000 And now the Supreme Court Really, this is what the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals found.

00:04:59.000 Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals ruling that suggests that it is a violation of the Eighth Amendment of the United States Constitution to fine people for living out in public on the streets.

00:05:09.000 Really, this is what the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals found.

00:05:11.000 The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals a few months ago found that it was a violation of the cruel and unusual punishment clause of the Constitution of the United States to give people a $25 ticket for living on a sidewalk, which is pure By the way, you want to destroy a city, this is the way you do it.

00:05:29.000 Not just because the living conditions go down, but also because you destroy the ability of businesses to do business.

00:05:35.000 In the city of Los Angeles, I have many, many friends who are police officers in the city of Los Angeles, and one of their big problems is that a business owner will call them up and say, I've got a homeless person who is sitting on my stoop and peeing.

00:05:46.000 Right in front of the business.

00:05:47.000 And my customers can't get in.

00:05:49.000 And the police officers will say, well, is the person trying to break in?

00:05:51.000 And I'll say, no.

00:05:53.000 They'll say, well, we can't do anything about that.

00:05:54.000 They're just living right there.

00:05:55.000 There's nothing they can do about that.

00:05:57.000 Because the city of Los Angeles has decided to go along with all of this nonsense.

00:06:00.000 This has some predictable effects in terms of how cities are run and how dirty they are.

00:06:03.000 We'll get to that in just one second.

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00:07:23.000 So now the Supreme Court has ruled, again, that you have a right to sleep on the streets.

00:07:28.000 They did so, not by ruling that out right, but by refusing to overrule this Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals ruling.

00:07:32.000 Now, this has some predictable effects.

00:07:34.000 So, for example, in San Francisco, this picture was going around yesterday.

00:07:37.000 It is a picture of a homeless man who was being described by other people in the... This was taken by a journalist.

00:07:44.000 The journalist said that this person was clearly a drug addict.

00:07:47.000 This person literally went into a supermarket in San Francisco and proceeded to defecate on the floor.

00:07:51.000 The good news is that they found the toilet paper aisle, so at least they have the toilet paper to deal with it.

00:07:55.000 The bad news is there was an open bathroom with no one occupying it in the same store, and this person just decided to go poop right on the floor of the supermarket.

00:08:02.000 And this has become San Francisco.

00:08:05.000 We had a colleague, Cassie Dillon, she went over to San Francisco and took tape on, uh, took videotape of all of the street corners in San Francisco, and San Francisco has become a feces fest. 0.90

00:08:16.000 The entire city has turned into a trash heap.

00:08:18.000 It's one of the most beautiful cities in America.

00:08:20.000 The same thing has happened in Seattle, where a gem of a city... I used to do a local show up in Seattle.

00:08:25.000 A gem of a city has been turned into a homeless encampment, and the past several mayors have refused to do anything about it, citing the right to live on the streets.

00:08:33.000 Well, I shouldn't say they're doing nothing about it.

00:08:34.000 Over in Seattle, Seattle's homeless agency actually hired a transgender performer named Beyonce Black St. 1.00

00:08:43.000 James to their all-home conference in South Seattle for a group of homeless advocates. 0.93

00:08:48.000 This person is a transgender stripper. 1.00

00:08:51.000 Which is a look. 0.94

00:08:53.000 And, um, they spent money on this to fight homelessness.

00:08:56.000 Homelessness cured, guys!

00:08:58.000 They fixed homelessness.

00:08:59.000 All it took was finding a transge- a man who believes that he is a woman who's had some surgeries to prove it. 0.66

00:09:03.000 All it takes is a transgender female stripper parading around and twerking at a homeless conference on taxpayer dime to fix this thing. 1.00

00:09:12.000 Oh, oh god. 0.99

00:09:14.000 No.

00:09:16.000 We cut this tape so that you didn't actually have to... Oh, no.

00:09:19.000 Okay, we're gonna not do that, guys.

00:09:20.000 Okay, let's just stop it and let's get that off the screen, because no one... Oh, no!

00:09:24.000 Stop it! 0.99

00:09:25.000 Stop it! 0.99

00:09:26.000 Stop! 1.00

00:09:27.000 Enough! 1.00

00:09:28.000 No!

00:09:29.000 You don't want... Do not subject the American people to that.

00:09:33.000 Well, the good news is the American people paid for that.

00:09:34.000 The Seattle taxpayers paid for that.

00:09:37.000 According to our friend Jason Rantover at KTTH, Seattle's homelessness crisis shows no signs of subsiding.

00:09:42.000 Meanwhile, an agency tasked with tackling the issue spent taxpayer dollars on a strip show.

00:09:46.000 Transgender performer, Beyonce Black St.

00:09:47.000 James, stripped at the All Home Conference in South Seattle for a group of homeless advocates.

00:09:52.000 All Home is the King County agency that coordinates the services for the homeless.

00:09:55.000 The conference theme was, Decolonizing Our Collective Work.

00:09:59.000 What does that mean?

00:10:00.000 Decolonizing our collective work?

00:10:03.000 Is your collective work colonized?

00:10:06.000 By what?

00:10:08.000 Like, strep?

00:10:09.000 Like, what?

00:10:11.000 It wasn't clear to attendees that the organization had planned a strip show for the conference.

00:10:14.000 According to the Seattle Times, the agenda simply explained participants would attend a lunch with cultural presentation.

00:10:19.000 That is one cultural presentation. 0.75

00:10:21.000 It was a transgender woman lip-syncing and stripping, revealing silver nipple coverings and a bodysuit. 1.00

00:10:26.000 Some participants handed her dollar bills. 0.85

00:10:28.000 Others looked clearly uncomfortable.

00:10:30.000 At one point, St.

00:10:31.000 James appeared to place His breasts on a participant's head. 1.00

00:10:34.000 At another, he rubbed his backside up against a woman in a chair and then caressed the leg and chest of a man. 0.58

00:10:38.000 St.

00:10:38.000 James would later use his mouth to take a dollar bill out of this other person's mouth.

00:10:44.000 And then, of course, some twerking. 0.52

00:10:46.000 The transgender stripper, by the way, is not the person to blame, as Jason Ranz points out.

00:10:50.000 This person's name is Kira Zylstra, the administrator, who was earning $123,000 a year to fight homelessness.

00:10:54.000 $23,000 a year to fight homelessness.

00:10:58.000 Yes, public service pays well.

00:11:01.000 The person ended up resigning.

00:11:05.000 How much do governments waste on nonsense like this?

00:11:08.000 The answer is not a little money.

00:11:10.000 So the Supreme Court has declared, by refusing to rule on this Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals ruling, that there is now a right to sleep on the streets.

00:11:17.000 A right to sleep on the streets. 0.96

00:11:19.000 The ruling by the 9th Circuit is insane.

00:11:21.000 It said that a city ordinance violates the 8th Amendment.

00:11:24.000 Cruel and unusual punishment.

00:11:26.000 Right? 0.99

00:11:26.000 It's like using the rack on somebody to write them a $25 ticket if they don't move their crap from out in front of a business. 0.99

00:11:32.000 It violates the 8th Amendment insofar as it imposes criminal sanctions against homeless individuals for sleeping outdoors on public property when no alternative shelter is available to them.

00:11:40.000 So you've seen these kinds of court rulings.

00:11:41.000 I mean, this is judicial supremacy at its finest.

00:11:43.000 Judicial supremacy is when the judiciary simply usurps the role of legislatures.

00:11:47.000 And this is what has been going on in terms of, for example, union states.

00:11:51.000 You will see the judiciary simply say that the state must sign a contract with the unions that meet the following criteria.

00:11:59.000 You've seen this with regard to some states on education.

00:12:01.000 Some states will say, you know, the state constitution suggests that you have to properly fund education.

00:12:07.000 Properly fund means you have to spend X percentage of the budget on education.

00:12:10.000 Okay, that is the judiciary now playing the legislature.

00:12:13.000 Well, this is what the judiciary here is doing.

00:12:15.000 To say when no alternative shelter is available to them you can't write somebody a ticket means that basically the Ninth Circuit is saying it's your brains or your signature on this piece of paper.

00:12:25.000 Either you have to let these people sleep on the street and defecate on the street because that is one of the things that goes along with sleeping on the streets as it turns out.

00:12:32.000 You don't have to let them destroy the safety and security of a city unless you build them the kind of shelter we believe is appropriate.

00:12:42.000 That is blackmailing the taxpayers from the judicial branch.

00:12:44.000 That's not electoral politics.

00:12:45.000 That's not even democracy.

00:12:47.000 That's the judiciary deciding what it thinks is best policy without having any responsibility for implementing that policy.

00:12:54.000 Even Los Angeles County was like, what is this stuff?

00:12:57.000 Los Angeles County Supervisor Mark Ridley-Thomas, who is no right-winger, he said that they had joined the lawsuit against these homeless advocacy organizations.

00:13:08.000 He said that they were looking For a clear framework, a legal framework in comparison to the status quo that is ambiguous and confusing.

00:13:17.000 He said, letting the current law stand handicapped cities and counties from acting nimbly to aid those perishing on the streets, exacerbating unsafe and unhealthy conditions that negatively affect our most vulnerable residents. 0.93

00:13:26.000 LA Mayor Eric Garcetti, who is just awful, he said in a statement that quote, Homelessness won't be solved by moving people from one street to another.

00:13:33.000 Our focus will remain on providing services to save lives, keeping our neighborhoods clean and healthy, opening shelters to help get people indoors more quickly, and building permanent units to keep them under a roof for good.

00:13:43.000 None of those things have happened in LA.

00:13:45.000 I can testify.

00:13:45.000 I live here.

00:13:46.000 None of those things have happened in LA.

00:13:48.000 LA is one giant homeless encampment.

00:13:49.000 There are over 60,000 homeless people living in the county of Los Angeles.

00:13:54.000 And now the Supreme Court has allowed the Ninth Circuit to cram down its own vision of how to fight homelessness on every other major city, and that does not include the ability to even rouse people, move their stuff.

00:14:06.000 What this means is mass homelessness is going to continue to be the rule, not the exception, when it comes to America's major cities, thanks to the judiciary.

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00:16:09.000 This is the week because Democrats are going to lay out the case for a Wednesday Trump impeachment vote according to the Associated Press.

00:16:16.000 So tomorrow, the historic day, when Democrats declare impeachment, yeah!

00:16:21.000 The reason, by the way, they're doing it on Wednesday is because Thursday is the next big Democratic presidential debate, and so they don't want to detract from attention on debate day.

00:16:28.000 So they're gonna do impeachment on Wednesday, and then the Democrats can spend the first half of the debate on Thursday talking about how much they hate President Trump.

00:16:36.000 But don't worry, this isn't political at all.

00:16:37.000 It's not political, it's just they love the Constitution so, so, so much.

00:16:40.000 That's all.

00:16:42.000 According to the AP, House Democrats laid out their impeachment case against President Trump on Monday, a sweeping report accusing him of betraying the nation and deserving to be ousted as key lawmakers began to signal Where they stand ahead of this week's landmark votes.

00:16:55.000 What Democrats once hoped would be a bipartisan act, only the third time in U.S.

00:16:58.000 history the House will be voting to impeach a president, is now on track to be a starkly partisan roll call on Wednesday.

00:17:03.000 No Republicans are breaking with the president.

00:17:05.000 Almost all Democrats are expected to approve the charges against him.

00:17:08.000 A raucous town hall Monday in the Detroit suburbs put on display the nation's wrenching debate over the unconventional president and the prospect of removing him from office.

00:17:15.000 Freshman Democratic Representative Elisa Slotkin was both heckled and celebrated as she announced her support for impeachment.

00:17:21.000 She said, there's certainly a lot of controversy about this, but there just has to be a moment where you use the letter of the law for what it's intended.

00:17:28.000 Because what was intended was definitely charging a president with no crimes and giving him very, very vague charges of abuse of power and one that makes no sense, obstruction of Congress.

00:17:36.000 Because again, there is no obstruction of Congress.

00:17:39.000 Okay?

00:17:39.000 Obstruction of Congress has to be connected with obstruction of justice.

00:17:42.000 It is not obstruction of Congress for the executive branch to refuse to comply with subpoenas and then appeal to the judicial branch to back them up.

00:17:50.000 According to the 650 page report from the House Judiciary Committee, which I've read some of it, I gotta tell you, it feels like that.

00:17:58.000 That report feels like back when you were in middle school and your teacher was like, I need a five paragraph essay.

00:18:04.000 And so one of your paragraphs, and it needs to be 450 words.

00:18:07.000 And so your essay said things like, it was a very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very good time.

00:18:15.000 Boom, 25 words, right?

00:18:18.000 That report, there ain't enough there to support 650 pages of reading.

00:18:22.000 Trump has been tweeting, and he insisted he has done nothing wrong.

00:18:24.000 He's also promoting Rudy Giuliani's investigation of Joe and Hunter Biden.

00:18:26.000 and corrupting democratic elections, says the 650 page report from the House Judiciary Committee.

00:18:31.000 Trump has been tweeting and he insisted he has done nothing wrong.

00:18:35.000 He's also promoting Rudy Giuliani's investigation of Joe and Hunter Biden.

00:18:39.000 He said of Rudy Giuliani, he knows what he is doing.

00:18:43.000 Rudy Giuliani, for his part, is going around in media saying that he has uncovered money laundering in Ukraine.

00:18:49.000 And if he's got the goods, now would be an excellent time to spill them.

00:18:53.000 I mean, Rudy, like, any time now, dude.

00:18:55.000 The people that he's quoting, by the way, in most of his reports are prosecutors who have been widely derided for their possible corruption and who appear to have conflicting motivations.

00:19:04.000 So I don't take everything that Rudy Giuliani is saying at face value.

00:19:07.000 I think there is reason to be suspicious of how Hunter Biden ended up in a position being paid $50,000 a month when he was competent to not hold a job.

00:19:17.000 That is quite suspicious, and there's no question he was using daddy's name.

00:19:19.000 The question is whether Joe knew about it or what Joe was doing about it.

00:19:22.000 There's certainly the appearance of impropriety, but that doesn't mean that Joe Biden was actually facilitating this or getting people fired in order to back up his son or anything like that.

00:19:31.000 With that said, if Rudy's got some hard evidence, and the hard evidence goes beyond, here are a couple of Ukrainian prosecutors ousted for corruption talking about it.

00:19:39.000 I'm willing to hear it.

00:19:40.000 Here was Rudy on Laura Ingraham's show last night talking about it.

00:19:43.000 What I uncovered there are two major schemes, one for $7.5 billion, the other for $5 billion, in money laundering that went on all through the Obama administration.

00:19:54.000 Part of it involves Joe Biden, the bribery part.

00:19:58.000 It's a disgrace that he's not under investigation for it in America, maybe because our law enforcement is too afraid.

00:20:06.000 But the reality is it's a complete defense for the president.

00:20:09.000 OK, so the idea here is that if there was corruption in Ukraine and Trump was interested in it, then that is a complete defense for the president.

00:20:17.000 The fact is that Trump was suspicious of corruption in Ukraine.

00:20:21.000 And he was asking about it.

00:20:22.000 That's an offense of the president.

00:20:23.000 Because so long as this is about corruption in Ukraine or corruption in 2016 and not about going after Joe Biden for 2020, then he has an offense to the charges.

00:20:32.000 And Democrats have not been able to establish the requisite level of intent for bribery, which of course is why it is not included in any of the impeachment charges.

00:20:39.000 Does that mean that Rudy Giuliani has to prove his case in order for Trump to get off on impeachment?

00:20:43.000 No, it doesn't actually.

00:20:45.000 So the Democrats are going to move this thing forward on Wednesday.

00:20:49.000 Their on-the-fence members are now backing impeachment because party loyalty is extraordinarily solid at this point in time for both Republicans and Democrats.

00:20:57.000 You're not seeing any crossover votes at this point.

00:20:59.000 It's going to hurt those Democrats in the swing districts far more than it hurts the Republicans.

00:21:03.000 There are very few Republicans who are existing in blue districts at this point.

00:21:07.000 Those blue districts, purple districts, have basically been wiped out for Republicans, unfortunately.

00:21:11.000 That means there are a lot of Democrats that are sitting in Trump districts.

00:21:14.000 A lot of them are going to lose their seats over this.

00:21:16.000 According to the Wall Street Journal, more Democrats from competitive House districts said they will back the impeachment of President Trump, putting the effort on track to pass this week, despite some fears their position could put their seats at risk.

00:21:27.000 Representative Joe Cunningham of South Carolina said he would support impeachment.

00:21:30.000 He said, if I wanted to do what was easy politically, I would just vote no and move on.

00:21:34.000 Well, actually, no.

00:21:35.000 There is no easy answer for some of these Democrats existing in purple districts.

00:21:39.000 Two Democrats have said they are opposed, including one, Representative Jeff Van Drew of New Jersey, who said he's actually going to switch parties.

00:21:44.000 Representative Colin Peterson of Minnesota said he will vote against impeachment as well.

00:21:49.000 Bottom line is, this thing in the end is not really going to go anywhere, and everybody knows it.

00:21:55.000 Now, there was this sort of funny tête-à-tête between Chuck Schumer and a reporter yesterday.

00:22:00.000 So Chuck Schumer appeared in front of the press and he was explaining that he's very angry that the Senate procedures aren't going to be fulsome and allow the Democrats to explain their case.

00:22:09.000 Well, they do control the House.

00:22:10.000 Schumer's saying Republicans should call all these witnesses from the executive branch.

00:22:15.000 Why won't Republicans do this?

00:22:16.000 And a reporter says to him, um, your House colleagues were supposed to call those witnesses, so why didn't they?

00:22:21.000 They could have just waited for the judiciary to sound off on the subpoenas, and they could have called all these people, and Schumer has no good answer, because there is no good answer.

00:22:30.000 Some of the Republicans have suggested that it's not the Senate's job to get these witnesses.

00:22:36.000 That was work being done by the House Democrats, and the House Democrats decided not to go to court to get these witnesses.

00:22:45.000 Should the Democrats in the House Well, look, I'm not going to second-guess the House.

00:22:51.000 There is virtually no argument, no good argument, if you're interested in the facts and not having these witnesses come forward now.

00:22:58.000 And remember, the standard at a trial is different than the standard when a prosecutor, in this case the House Impeachment Authority, puts together a case.

00:23:07.000 A trial is a place for witnesses.

00:23:11.000 Oh, a trial is a place for witnesses, as opposed to a House Judiciary Committee hearing, which is also a place for witnesses, and the House Intelligence Committee hearing, which was also a place for witnesses.

00:23:18.000 He's gotten a good answer on this, because the real answer, Democrats know they're not going to get what they want from these witnesses, and now we're all going to pretend, and the media are going to pretend, that because Mitch McConnell won't call Mick Mulvaney, that's the real reason why this impeachment effort isn't moving forward?

00:23:32.000 Sure.

00:23:33.000 Sure.

00:23:33.000 By the way, are these impeachment moves actually hurting Trump?

00:23:37.000 The national political polls do not suggest such a thing.

00:23:40.000 There's a New Suffolk University USA Today poll.

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00:23:43.000 Here is what it finds.

00:23:44.000 And these are general election numbers now.

00:23:46.000 General election numbers.

00:23:47.000 I'm going to give you those general election numbers in just one second.

00:23:50.000 This stuff is not helping the Democrats.

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00:25:09.000 Okay, so here is what the national polls are now saying.

00:25:12.000 This is very bad for Democrats.

00:25:13.000 This is bad news for Democrats.

00:25:15.000 According to Suffolk University USA Today, President Trump in head-to-head matchups against Democrats now leads Joe Biden 44 to 41, leads Bernie Sanders 44 to 39, leads Elizabeth Warren 45 to 37, leads Michael Bloomberg 43 to 34, and leads Pete Buttigieg 43 to 33. leads Michael Bloomberg 43 to 34, and leads Pete Buttigieg

00:25:36.000 So unless you believe that all of the outlying votes are going to go to the Democrats, that the 15 or 20 percent that are left over in those polls are all going to swing to the That's real bad news for the Democrats right there.

00:25:49.000 Now, it is true that Trump is stuck at 43, 44, 45.

00:25:52.000 He was for the entirety of the 2016 election, too, and he ends it up at 46.

00:25:57.000 So, the fact is that the President of the United States is not in bad re-election territory despite, or maybe because of, impeachment.

00:26:05.000 That's not the only poll trending in this direction.

00:26:08.000 Okay, there's an Investor Business Daily TIPP poll that just came out this morning.

00:26:13.000 And here's what that one found.

00:26:14.000 It shows the only Democrat beating Trump right now is Biden.

00:26:18.000 It's got Biden at 50 and Trump at 45.

00:26:20.000 The others have Trump up 48-47 over Sanders, 47-46 over Bloomberg, 46-44 over Buttigieg, and 49-44 over Warren.

00:26:22.000 Sanders, 47-46 over Bloomberg, 46-44 over Buttigieg, and 49-44 over Warren.

00:26:28.000 Warren not showing strong in these particular polls.

00:26:32.000 According to that poll, the IBDTIPP poll, that's a five-point shift toward Trump versus Biden in the last month, a 13-point shift towards Trump versus Warren in the last month, and an eight-point shift towards Trump versus Sanders.

00:26:48.000 These are horrible numbers for the Democrats.

00:26:50.000 And part of that is everybody's irritation with this impeachment stuff.

00:26:52.000 Part of this is the fact that the economy is going well.

00:26:55.000 Part of this is the fact that Trump has made some moves to solidify his re-election here.

00:26:59.000 He's moving to get the China trade issue off the table.

00:27:02.000 He is moving to get NAFTA 2.0 off the table.

00:27:05.000 He is signing huge budget, busting numbered budgets.

00:27:09.000 But at least he's getting it off the table.

00:27:11.000 He's doing a lot of the things that would be necessary in order to win re-election.

00:27:14.000 He looks a lot stronger today than he did even six months ago.

00:27:19.000 This impeachment effort is not going well for the Democrats, and the Democrats are starting to realize that Shadi Hamid is a senior fellow at Brookings Institution.

00:27:25.000 He has a piece today called Impeachment Could End Badly.

00:27:29.000 He says, I don't have the courage of my conviction.

00:27:30.000 President Donald Trump deserves to be impeached for trying to pressure Ukraine to investigate his political opponents.

00:27:36.000 With every week he says or does something worse than what he already said or did, but to say Trump deserves impeachment is different from saying that impeachment is good for the country.

00:27:43.000 In fact, it might turn out quite badly.

00:27:46.000 Most of the people whom I'd like to trust or believe, or believe rather strongly, that what President Trump has done rises to a crime, for them the analysis of whether Trump should be impeached can't help but be informed by their view that Trump represents an existential threat to the country.

00:28:00.000 Yet, if you do believe, as I do, that Trump is bad, but also that his badness falls somewhat short of an existential threat, then impeachment, however justified in theory, becomes less straightforward.

00:28:07.000 The process does not unfold in a political vacuum.

00:28:10.000 Democrats should not let the certainty of their legal reasoning push them toward impeachment without regard for its real-world consequences, which are uncertain and could prove costly.

00:28:18.000 Now, even this narrative is suggestive of the idea that Democrats are just pursuing Trump for impeachment because they feel the constitutional necessity to do so, that there was no political calculation that went into it.

00:28:28.000 No, what happened here is that Nancy Pelosi made a political calculation a few months back.

00:28:33.000 Her political calculation was quite simple.

00:28:35.000 It was, what are the costs and what are the benefits of impeaching Trump?

00:28:38.000 The costs of impeaching Trump would be maybe some blowback, but most people don't like Trump.

00:28:44.000 The benefits of impeaching Trump, if more evidence came forward, would be that he is made more unpopular, drives him down for 2020, or it ousts him completely, finishing Republican hopes for 2020.

00:28:55.000 That was her calculation.

00:28:56.000 But there's one problem with her calculation.

00:28:58.000 And that is the American people really, really are not into this impeachment charade.

00:29:04.000 And there has been a backlash to it.

00:29:06.000 That it appears to be political.

00:29:09.000 And that Trump has mobilized his forces pretty well here to defend himself.

00:29:14.000 The fact is that this is backlashing on the Democrats.

00:29:16.000 It is bad news for the Democrats.

00:29:19.000 And so they are relegated to relying on their base, which is not where they wanted to be in an impeachment move.

00:29:23.000 They are relegated to relying on the strong blue sentiments of people like Michelle Goldberg, the opinion columnist for the New York Times, who has a piece today titled, On Tuesday, March for Impeachment.

00:29:35.000 The anti-Trump majority needs to make itself seen.

00:29:38.000 Yes, I'm sure a march will do it.

00:29:40.000 I am sure that a big march, like the Women's March, or maybe the March for Our Lives, like big marches, On hot button political issues have definitely achieved what they sought to achieve in precisely 0% of cases over the last 10, 15 years.

00:29:54.000 I'm sure that's gonna go really, really well for you.

00:29:58.000 She says, demonstrations aren't just about pressuring Republicans.

00:30:01.000 Despite cable and social media, local TV news is still many people's primary news source.

00:30:05.000 Because there are going to be demonstrations everywhere, there are eight planned for Montana alone, local TV will likely cover them.

00:30:12.000 And therefore, there's going to be an upsurge in impeachment-heavy opinion.

00:30:16.000 Yeah, sure, sure.

00:30:18.000 I'm sure.

00:30:19.000 In just a second, we'll get to the other PR efforts by the pro-impeachment forces in just one second.

00:30:25.000 They are not good.

00:30:26.000 And they're not good because I think everybody understands the underlying animus that so many people hold for Trump and for Trump supporters.

00:30:32.000 Because that really, not even just Trump supporters, conservatives generally, What the media do not understand is that every poll on Trump is not actually a poll on Trump.

00:30:39.000 It is a poll on what people think the media think of them.

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00:30:47.000 When you ask a conservative or a Republican, do you like Trump?

00:30:49.000 And you get a call from one of these pollsters, most Republicans are thinking, do I like you?

00:30:55.000 It's a poll on the pollsters.

00:30:56.000 They don't trust you.

00:30:57.000 They don't trust the left to make these decisions.

00:30:59.000 There is no solid unity that suggests that People you disagree with are acting in the name of the Constitution because nobody actually believes that.

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00:34:09.000 Okay, so looking at the PR attempts to mobilize support behind this impeachment effort, the fact is the reason you're not going to get PR support is because the people who are behind the impeachment effort are widely perceived to be partisan hacks the fact is the reason you're not going to get PR support is because Adam Schiff is a partisan hack.

00:34:30.000 Jerry Nadler is a partisan hack.

00:34:31.000 And the people in the media who are pushing this thing.

00:34:34.000 Appear to be partisan hacks.

00:34:35.000 That's why moments that are seemingly unrelated to impeachment actually do have an impact on how people think about this stuff.

00:34:41.000 So, for example, on The View yesterday.

00:34:43.000 Now remember, Barack Obama said just yesterday that if women ran everything in politics, then the world would be a nicer, better place.

00:34:49.000 The View stands as a ringing endorsement of the opposite idea.

00:34:52.000 Because, let me tell you, that place, it ain't good for the case that ladies running the world is gonna go fantastic. 1.00

00:34:58.000 That just because of their X chromosomes, things are gonna go really, really great.

00:35:01.000 So, Meghan McCain, who is not a Trumpster, okay?

00:35:04.000 Go and look at our Sunday special.

00:35:05.000 I interviewed Meghan for an hour.

00:35:07.000 She and I are friends.

00:35:08.000 She is not a fan of Trump.

00:35:10.000 At all.

00:35:10.000 I mean, and honestly, like, I get it.

00:35:13.000 Trump has spent half his career ripping the crap out of John McCain, even after his death. 0.51

00:35:18.000 So, I totally get it.

00:35:19.000 Meghan McCain, who is not a Trump defender, is on The View, and she's explaining why impeachment politically is going bad for Democrats, or at least she is trying to.

00:35:26.000 But it doesn't go well, because Whoopi Goldberg isn't having any of it.

00:35:29.000 It is moments like this that make people go, you know what?

00:35:31.000 Trump forever.

00:35:33.000 Meghan doesn't even support Trump.

00:35:35.000 Okay, but it makes people go Trump forever.

00:35:36.000 Why?

00:35:37.000 As a giant pulsating middle finger to people like Whoopi Goldberg.

00:35:39.000 Because watch how Whoopi Goldberg treats Meghan McCain here. 1.00

00:35:41.000 Look at the sisterhood.

00:35:43.000 And we keep hearing about female solidarity.

00:35:45.000 Yeah, man!

00:35:47.000 The sisterhood. 0.99

00:35:48.000 And Whoopi Goldberg treats Meghan McCain like trash here. 1.00

00:35:51.000 She really does. 1.00

00:35:52.000 She treats her like garbage. 1.00

00:35:53.000 And she'll get no blowback from management over at ABC because that's not the way this works. 0.98

00:35:57.000 Only people who apparently Make the grave mistake of announcing that ABC has quashed investigations into Jeffrey Epstein. 0.98

00:36:04.000 Get treated like garbage over there. 0.97

00:36:06.000 And the token conservative on The View. 0.99

00:36:09.000 So here's Meghan McCain trying to explain. 0.99

00:36:11.000 She's not even saying, I'm anti-impeachment.

00:36:12.000 She's just saying impeachment's not going to work out well for Democrats.

00:36:15.000 And Whoopi Goldberg loses her bleep on her.

00:36:17.000 She flips her wig over it.

00:36:18.000 It's crazy.

00:36:21.000 Here's what's happening now.

00:36:23.000 We're gonna- We're gonna- Girl, please stop talking.

00:36:27.000 Please stop talking right now.

00:36:28.000 Cuz you know what?

00:36:29.000 What's happening- Thank you.

00:36:31.000 Thank you.

00:36:31.000 I won't talk the rest of the show.

00:36:33.000 No problem.

00:36:33.000 Okay.

00:36:33.000 That's- I'm okay with that.

00:36:36.000 I'm okay with that.

00:36:37.000 If you're going to behave like this... I'm not behaving like anything.

00:36:40.000 You are!

00:36:40.000 You are talking over... I'm trying to show a conservative perspective.

00:36:42.000 Yes, we understand that.

00:36:43.000 No, I like when you talk and then... But you are, what you're doing... No, I'm not doing... We're not doing anything.

00:36:48.000 How about this?

00:36:49.000 Former FBI, we'll be right back.

00:36:51.000 And then she goes to break because Whoopi Goldberg, and first of all, putting Whoopi Goldberg in charge of that show is such a joke on its face.

00:36:57.000 But beyond that, Whoopi Goldberg going after Meghan McCain for simply trying to say that impeachment is a bad political idea. 0.93

00:37:04.000 Shut up, girl, which is basically what she's saying. 0.81

00:37:05.000 First of all, if any dude ever said that to any woman on national television, they lose their job. 1.00

00:37:10.000 If any man said to any woman, stop talking right now, it's the most sexist, patriarchal thing ever.

00:37:14.000 Whoopi Goldberg, though, is intersectional.

00:37:15.000 Meghan McCain is not.

00:37:16.000 Whoopi Goldberg is on the left.

00:37:17.000 Meghan McCain is not.

00:37:18.000 Therefore, Whoopi Goldberg can say, girl, stop talking right now.

00:37:21.000 By the way, if Meghan McCain said that to Whoopi Goldberg, she'd probably be fired the next day. 1.00

00:37:25.000 That's the way this works.

00:37:25.000 And it's that dynamic that leads people to go, Middle finger man leads them to say Trump all the way.

00:37:31.000 Because if Trump is just a way to rebut that kind of garbage, if Trump is basically a giant F you to that entire class of people, and I mean the hardcore left that wants to silence debate, then fine, Trump. 0.53

00:37:44.000 Impeachment is more about that than it is about what's in the impeachment report. 0.95

00:37:48.000 Just like elections are more about that than they are about differential ideas on Medicare for all.

00:37:53.000 Elections are far more in today's day and age about the feeling that people have about one another in the United States, the feeling they have about the media in the United States.

00:38:00.000 This is Trump knows this, right?

00:38:02.000 Trump has an innate gut feel for this.

00:38:03.000 It's why he won the election last time.

00:38:05.000 It's why he's in good shape this time.

00:38:06.000 Yes, he's going to have to tout his accomplishments.

00:38:08.000 Yes, he should let the accomplishments speak for themselves.

00:38:11.000 And I am the person who's been saying for years that he needs to tone down the tweeting.

00:38:14.000 But I've never said he should tone down the tweeting when it comes to him ripping the media.

00:38:18.000 I think he should be accurate about it.

00:38:19.000 I don't think he should call everything fake news when it's not.

00:38:22.000 But him going after members of the left and pointing out that this is a culture, this is a cultural battle is not wrong.

00:38:31.000 People elected him for this and people are, the more you get a whoopee, this is how you got Trump and you're going to get more Trump this way.

00:38:37.000 You're going to get more Trump when you bring Robert De Niro on The View to explain that Donald Trump is worse than any character he has ever played, including Travis Bickle, who's a person who is planning to murder a politician.

00:38:48.000 Or I guess then his characters in a wide variety of films who are gangsters who shoot people in the face.

00:38:54.000 First of all, why Robert De Niro is a political authority on anything is absolutely beyond me.

00:38:58.000 The man is an actor.

00:38:59.000 He has no political expertise on anything.

00:39:02.000 Ronald Reagan spent years talking about politics and economics for GE before he was elected governor of California.

00:39:09.000 Robert De Niro has spent years playing the same role since Godfather 3.

00:39:13.000 Sometimes for comedic effect and sometimes for non-comedic effect. 0.99

00:39:16.000 Here's Robert De Niro explaining incoherently that Donald Trump is worse than Travis Bickle, a psychopathic murderer.

00:39:23.000 You have played some of the most really unredeemable characters. 0.86

00:39:28.000 Travis Bickle was a psychopathic taxi driver.

00:39:33.000 Jake LaMotta, who used to beat his wife, and he was in the Raging Bull.

00:39:37.000 Is Trump worse than they are?

00:39:39.000 To me, he is.

00:39:41.000 Because he has no understanding that I can see of the outside world other than anything around him.

00:39:49.000 He has no idea of what his purpose in life as the president should be.

00:39:54.000 And that is to pull the country together, to be for the people, to heal wounds, not to open them up and pour salt on them.

00:40:04.000 He's, I always say, he's a lowlife.

00:40:06.000 Our moral leader, Robert De Niro.

00:40:08.000 And then, Robert De Niro, in an attempt to really heal the nation and close those wounds, he says that if his family, meaning like Ivanka and Jared and Eric and Donald Trump Jr., if his family were like the Trump family, he would disown them.

00:40:22.000 This is him healing the wounds of the nation, Robert De Niro.

00:40:24.000 Perfect example of a man healing the wounds of the nation.

00:40:27.000 You also talk about his children, and you say that they're like a gangster family too.

00:40:34.000 I don't want my kids to take this the wrong way, but if my kids did what these kids did, I wouldn't want to be related to them.

00:40:40.000 I would disown them.

00:40:41.000 I'd have a serious talk with them.

00:40:44.000 I'd have a serious talk with them.

00:40:46.000 First of all, it's an impossibility.

00:40:48.000 My kids are not like that, of course.

00:40:50.000 But if I disagreed with them on things of principle, I'd say... And they felt it.

00:40:57.000 And we do now.

00:40:58.000 So even without this...

00:41:00.000 I would just, oh, what a nice guy Robert De Niro is.

00:41:03.000 What a moral authority.

00:41:05.000 And this is why, when Donald Trump tweets about Nancy Pelosi, see, they're all like, okay, whatever.

00:41:09.000 Honestly, whatever.

00:41:10.000 Whatever.

00:41:10.000 Nancy Pelosi has said that Donald Trump isn't a real man.

00:41:13.000 Nancy Pelosi said stuff about Trump, too.

00:41:15.000 Like, can we all stop with the, everything was civil until Trump got here?

00:41:18.000 Because it wasn't. 0.99

00:41:20.000 Folks on the left were doing this kind of crap to Mitt Romney. 0.98

00:41:22.000 To Mitt Romney, who has the controversial nature of a piece of cardboard. 1.00

00:41:29.000 Mitt Romney, the wet spaghetti of human beings.

00:41:32.000 They went after Mitt Romney and characterized him as polarizing and divisive.

00:41:37.000 They did the same thing to John McCain.

00:41:40.000 Years of that led to Trump.

00:41:42.000 And so now you're like, okay, we want to impeach Trump.

00:41:44.000 Yeah, I definitely believe that it's not motivated by animus.

00:41:47.000 I'm watching the high dungeon of people like Chris Cuomo.

00:41:49.000 Why won't Republicans call Trump out over his words about Pelosi's teeth, Chris Cuomo? 0.96

00:41:54.000 Chris Cuomo is one of the worst actors in the media when it comes to using insulting and ridiculous language about people. 0.91

00:42:01.000 Here's not Fredo explaining to Sean Duffy that it's just awful. 0.97

00:42:06.000 It's just awful, awful for the president to insult Nancy Pelosi's teeth.

00:42:10.000 Everybody who's in the center of the country, let's be real, everybody in the center of the country doesn't care.

00:42:14.000 I mean, independents, they don't deeply care about Donald Trump insulting Nancy Pelosi's teeth.

00:42:18.000 In fact, they probably think that it's kind of funny because it is kind of funny because it rips the mask off the political, we're all best friends routine.

00:42:25.000 Everybody on the right cheers and everybody on the left is mad because it's Trump and Trump could, Trump could drop his hat and everybody would lose their mind on the left.

00:42:33.000 Here's Chris Cuomo though saying, how can we last as a country if people are making jokes about each other's teeth?

00:42:39.000 The president is the biggest man in the room.

00:42:41.000 The biggest man in the room does not behave like the people who are coming at him, right?

00:42:46.000 You ever hear the expression, the lion is not concerned by the complaints of the sheep.

00:42:51.000 The second thing is, Sean, you guys will say, well, we don't like everything he says.

00:42:55.000 No, you never say that you don't like what he says.

00:42:58.000 None of you will say he should not have said that about Nancy Pelosi.

00:43:02.000 It was an ugly remark that is beneath the presidency.

00:43:05.000 None of you have said it.

00:43:07.000 But Chris, I think what you don't recognize is the fact that many Republicans feel like this is a one-sided conversation and frankly the median Democrats are the lion and they're going after the president non-stop.

00:43:19.000 He hasn't had one break.

00:43:20.000 So why don't you say Nancy Pelosi's teeth are falling out? 1.00

00:43:24.000 Well, again, it's not right to say that Nancy Pelosi's teeth are falling out as a politician, but nobody is gonna be like, oh my god, that's the worst thing that anybody ever said.

00:43:31.000 Should Trump have said it?

00:43:32.000 I'll say it.

00:43:32.000 No, of course he shouldn't have said it.

00:43:34.000 Does that make a huge difference in our political debate?

00:43:36.000 Is that wor- Chris Cuomo labeled Donald Trump Dirty Donald years ago.

00:43:41.000 I don't see anybody complaining about that.

00:43:42.000 Meanwhile, my favorite ridiculous attempt of the day to push impeachment comes courtesy of George Conway, Steve Schmidt, John Weaver, and Rick Wilson.

00:43:50.000 So they have a piece today titled, We Are Republicans, and We Want Trump Defeated.

00:43:54.000 Okay, let me just first make a quick point.

00:43:57.000 Several of these people have openly called for voting for Democrats in elections that do not involve Donald Trump.

00:44:01.000 John Weaver, there's an article from 2015 about John Weaver, who is this political activist.

00:44:08.000 He's a political consultant.

00:44:10.000 Weaver actually advised Democratic candidate John Kerry in 2004.

00:44:15.000 Now, as far as I'm aware, George W. Bush is not named Donald Trump, nor is he related to Donald Trump, nor does he even like Donald Trump.

00:44:23.000 That did not stop John Weaver from attempting to reach out to John Kerry.

00:44:28.000 Also, he worked with John Kasich, but not until after he had actually urged, wait for it, wait for it, Donald Trump to run for President of the United States.

00:44:36.000 According to this political article from 2015, Weaver reached out to Trump to congratulate him on a Washington Post story announcing he might run.

00:44:46.000 And then he encouraged Trump to run, beginning what he and another person close to Trump saw as Weaver's backstage courtship.

00:44:54.000 So Weaver, one of the authors of this piece, has both backed Democrats in the past and also urged Trump to run.

00:45:02.000 Then, You've got Rick Wilson.

00:45:04.000 Rick Wilson told Hill TV co-host Crystal Ball back before the 2018 elections that conservatives should think about voting for Democrats.

00:45:13.000 He says that it might be worth having Democrats in Congress because you don't want the Democratic Party to simply back President Trump.

00:45:21.000 He said, quote, I think conservatives have to make a case by case choice.

00:45:23.000 There are actually some Democrat candidates out there who functionally now are to the right on economics of their Republican counterpart.

00:45:28.000 It's astounding.

00:45:29.000 I'd like to hear about those Democratic candidates.

00:45:32.000 And then there is Steve Schmidt, who's one of the other authors on this article.

00:45:36.000 Steve Schmidt announced that he would start voting for Democrats as of June 2018.

00:45:41.000 He said, 29 years and nine months ago, I registered to vote and become a member of the Republican Party.

00:45:46.000 Today, I renounce my membership in the Republican Party.

00:45:49.000 It is fully the party of Trump.

00:45:51.000 He says the GOP is corrupt, indecent, and immoral, with the exception of a few governors like Baker, Hogan, and Kasich, which are all the moderate Republican governors.

00:45:58.000 He doesn't mention DeSantis or Abbott. 0.99

00:46:00.000 It is filled with feckless cowards. 0.96

00:46:02.000 And then he suggested that he was going to vote for Democrats basically from here on out. 0.96

00:46:08.000 He says that the GOP is a danger to our democracy and values.

00:46:13.000 He says he is calling on people to reject Trump and his quote-unquote vile enablers in the 2018 election by electing Democratic majorities.

00:46:20.000 Well, now they have a piece today, these people.

00:46:22.000 And George Conway, of course, who has spent the last several years ripping on his wife's boss.

00:46:26.000 And insulting his wife, apparently, in public media.

00:46:29.000 They have a piece today, published by the New York Times, called, We Are Republicans and We Want Trump Defeated.

00:46:33.000 Well, I noticed that there were no Republicans named Trump on the 2018 ballot.

00:46:36.000 I noticed that.

00:46:38.000 I also noticed that some of these people, again, have a history of actually rallying to Democrats when Trump was not on the ballot.

00:46:44.000 Like before Trump was in office.

00:46:47.000 But they say, no, it is incumbent on everyone to oppose Trump.

00:46:50.000 By what?

00:46:51.000 Supporting Elizabeth Warren?

00:46:52.000 Or Bernie Sanders?

00:46:54.000 There's no serious Republican primary threat, nor would there be.

00:46:56.000 Donald Trump has 90% approval rating inside the Republican Party, in large part because of the media.

00:47:02.000 In large part because even people who don't particularly like Trump personally feel like he is mostly punching the right targets, and they are mostly punching him.

00:47:09.000 They feel like referenda on Trump are actually referenda on them.

00:47:13.000 Trump has done a good job of stapling himself to the conservative movement and to Republicans and saying, listen, what they think of me is what they think of you.

00:47:20.000 And most conservatives basically agree with that because we understand that what they think of Trump may be more based on the reality of who Trump is, but what they think of us is not.

00:47:30.000 And what they think of conservatives is the same thing as what they think of Trump.

00:47:34.000 And then they claim that it's all about Trump.

00:47:36.000 It isn't all about Trump.

00:47:38.000 I'm promising you.

00:47:40.000 Whoopi Goldberg has the same level of disdain for Meghan McCain she has for Trump.

00:47:43.000 The exact same level of disdain.

00:47:44.000 And Meghan McCain didn't vote for Trump. 1.00

00:47:46.000 She's not going to vote for Trump.

00:47:47.000 She'd probably back Biden over Trump. 0.94

00:47:49.000 Whoopi Goldberg has the same amount of disdain for Meghan McCain as she has for Trump.

00:47:53.000 Most conservatives know this.

00:47:54.000 Most conservatives know.

00:47:55.000 Most Republicans know.

00:47:57.000 That the media have the same level of disdain and hatred for them that they have for Trump.

00:48:00.000 Which means...

00:48:01.000 That when they say, oh, it's really just about Trump, and if you guys would just abandon Trump, then we would definitely treat you as nice human beings.

00:48:07.000 We'd grant you the strange new respect. 0.99

00:48:08.000 Yeah, bullcrap. 0.99

00:48:10.000 Bullcrap.

00:48:11.000 And so when I hear this group of lobbyists, Rick Wilson, Steve Schmidt, John Weaver, George Conway, talk about the Lincoln Project, an effort to highlight our country's story and values and its people's sacrifices and obligations, An effort to transcend partisanship, dedicated to nothing less than the preservation of our principles.

00:48:28.000 They say, over the next 11 months, our efforts will be dedicated to defeating President Trump and Trumpism at the ballot box, and to elect those patriots who will hold the line, which I assume means voting for Democrats.

00:48:38.000 Hey, you're gonna have to explain how making Elizabeth Warren President of the United States heals our national divide. 0.99

00:48:42.000 How making Bernie Sanders President heals our national divide.

00:48:45.000 Or yes, even how electing Joe Biden President is going to heal our national divide, because I'm missing it.

00:48:51.000 I'm missing it.

00:48:53.000 I also love the Washington Post pushing a letter from 700 scholars urging the House to impeach Trump.

00:48:57.000 Well, since none of them are elected officials, I'd rather have the opinions, as William F. Buckley once said, of 700 people from the LA phone book than I would 700 historians, legal scholars, and others.

00:49:09.000 Okay, time for a quick thing that I like, and then we'll get to a thing that I hate.

00:49:13.000 So, things that I like today.

00:49:14.000 They're entitled to it.

00:49:15.000 I'm not sure why it has any more legitimacy than anybody else's opinion.

00:49:18.000 They're just voters like everybody else.

00:49:19.000 Okay, time for a quick thing that I like, and then we'll get to a thing that I hate.

00:49:24.000 So, things that I like today.

00:49:26.000 There is a really interesting piece in The Atlantic called The Miseducation of the American Now, she gets the diagnosis completely wrong. she gets the diagnosis completely wrong.

00:49:51.000 She suggests that it's because men have been abandoned economically, She suggests that it is because men have reacted to the rise of feminism poorly.

00:50:02.000 That's not really what happened here.

00:50:03.000 You want to know what happened to the traditional American male?

00:50:06.000 What happened to the traditional American male is that there are not enough fathers in the home to actually teach traditional masculinity.

00:50:12.000 Not just because boys need male role models, but also because in order to be a male role model requires you to be a responsible human being who treats your spouse well, for example.

00:50:23.000 And that has happened in large part because the government has played the role of father, and it has also happened because of the collapse of religious observance in the United States.

00:50:31.000 The kind of gentlemanliness that Peggy Orenstein sets out as a model used to be promulgated by church.

00:50:38.000 It used to be promulgated by synagogues. 1.00

00:50:40.000 It used to be promulgated by social institutions that were vital to American life.

00:50:44.000 Those have disappeared, and so it's no surprise that boys are filling that gap with Their sort of most root instincts, boys are aggressive.

00:50:52.000 Boys are mean. 0.98

00:50:53.000 Boys are conflict-driven.

00:50:55.000 That's just a thing that is true of boys.

00:50:57.000 Okay, and you're gonna see more of that when boys are not civilized.

00:50:59.000 The whole point of civilization is to civilize people.

00:51:02.000 When the main institutions of civilization disappear, and when manhood is boiled down to, I can write a check that fills the role of daddy, you shouldn't be surprised when men revert to their caveman instincts.

00:51:13.000 Their pre-civilized instincts.

00:51:16.000 According to Peggy Orenstein, she has a different explanation for what happened to boys.

00:51:21.000 She says, They considered their female classmates to be smart and competent, entitled to their place on the athletic field and in school leadership, deserving of their admission to college and of professional opportunities.

00:51:51.000 They all had female friends. 0.88

00:51:52.000 Most had gay male friends as well.

00:51:54.000 That was a huge shift from what you might have seen 50, 40, or even maybe 20 years ago.

00:51:58.000 Now, if you just read that part of the paragraph, and you were on the left, you'd say, well, masculinity problem solved.

00:52:03.000 Boys understand.

00:52:04.000 Girls can be in the workplace. 1.00

00:52:05.000 Boys understand.

00:52:06.000 Girls can be leaders of corporation. 1.00

00:52:08.000 But as it turns out, the masculinity problem has not been solved.

00:52:11.000 It turns out that males, deprived of their role in American society, are reverting to, again, the sort of gang instinct.

00:52:19.000 Finding other young men, congregating with other young men, and then doing young men things.

00:52:24.000 Right?

00:52:24.000 That means aggressive things.

00:52:26.000 Talking in bad ways about the same girls who, if they were in the presence of, would say that woman could lead a corporation.

00:52:32.000 According to this writer for the Atlantic, this was a huge shift from what you might have seen 40, 50, maybe even 20 years ago.

00:52:38.000 They could also easily reel off the excesses of masculinity. 0.78

00:52:40.000 They'd seen the headlines about mass shootings, domestic violence, sexual harassment, campus rape, presidential Twitter tantrums, and Supreme Court confirmation hearings.

00:52:47.000 A Big Ten football player I interviewed bandied about the term toxic masculinity.

00:52:51.000 Everyone knows what that is, he said when I seemed surprised.

00:52:53.000 Yet when asked to describe the attributes of the ideal guy, those same boys appear to be harking back to 1955.

00:52:59.000 Dominance.

00:53:00.000 Aggression.

00:53:01.000 Rugged good looks with an emphasis on height.

00:53:02.000 Sexual prowess.

00:53:03.000 Soicism.

00:53:04.000 Athleticism.

00:53:05.000 Wealth, at least someday.

00:53:07.000 Okay, so first of all, let's not pretend here.

00:53:11.000 The idea that these are values of 1955, some of these values are just eternal.

00:53:16.000 Yes, men who are strong have been revered in society for as long as society has existed and before society has existed.

00:53:23.000 Men who are aggressive, have long been revered by society.

00:53:27.000 Being good-looking and wealthy.

00:53:28.000 I'm unaware of a time in human history when being good-looking and wealthy was a detriment to you.

00:53:33.000 But, here's the point.

00:53:35.000 She says, it's not that all these qualities properly channeled are bad, but while a 2018 national survey of more than 1,000 10- to 19-year-olds, conducted by the polling firm Peri-Undum, found that young women believed there were many ways to be a girl.

00:53:46.000 They could shine in math, sports, music, leadership, the big caveat being that they still felt valued primarily for their appearance.

00:53:52.000 That's a large caveat, and also notes something that is true of human evolutionary biology, which is how people look actually matters to people.

00:54:00.000 Girls want to look good for boys and boys want to look good for girls? 0.99

00:54:04.000 For the vast majority of the population?

00:54:06.000 Young men, however, described just one narrow route to successful masculinity.

00:54:10.000 One-third said they felt compelled to suppress their feelings, to suck it up, or be a man when they were sad or scared.

00:54:14.000 More than 40% said that when they were angry, society expected them to be combative.

00:54:18.000 First of all, those are both minority statistics.

00:54:20.000 Second of all, The notion that you feel compelled to suppress your feelings or suck it up or be a man?

00:54:26.000 What is wrong with the idea that you ought to be a man in trying circumstances?

00:54:30.000 Being a man in trying circumstances is one of the tests of being a man.

00:54:33.000 Manhood does mean sucking it up when things get rough.

00:54:36.000 It doesn't mean you can't express your feelings to immediate family.

00:54:38.000 It doesn't mean you can't feel those things.

00:54:40.000 It does mean that being a man means duty and it does mean responsibility.

00:54:44.000 In another survey, which compared young men from the US, the UK, and Mexico, Americans reported more social pressure to be ever ready for sex, and to get with as many women as possible.

00:54:52.000 They also acknowledged more stigma against homosexuality, and they received more messages, they should control their female partners, as in, men deserve to know the whereabouts of their girlfriends or wives at all times.

00:55:01.000 Wait a second, you mean that as religious observance in America declined, that as the left destroyed traditional notions of sexual morality, men reverted to an evolutionary instinct to get with as many women as possible and then brag about it?

00:55:13.000 Who could have predicted that when you get rid of the institutions of civilization, that might be replaced by simple, individual, aggressive, testosterone-driven instinct?

00:55:22.000 Who could have predicted such a thing, except for the entire history of human civilization?

00:55:27.000 Feminism may have provided girls, says this writer Julie Oppenheimer, with a powerful alternative to conventional femininity, and a language with which to express the myriad problems that have no name. 1.00

00:55:36.000 But there have been no credible equivalents for boys, quite the contrary.

00:55:39.000 The definition of masculinity seems to be in some respects contracting.

00:55:42.000 When asked what traits society values most in boys, only 2% of male respondents in the periundum survey said honesty and morality, only 8% said leadership skills.

00:55:50.000 When I asked my subjects as I always did what they liked about being a boy, most of them drew a blank.

00:55:54.000 Hum used Josh, a college sophomore at Washington State.

00:55:57.000 That's interesting, I never really thought about that.

00:55:58.000 You hear a lot more about what is wrong with guys.

00:56:00.000 Accurate!

00:56:01.000 So, if you are going to spend several decades telling boys and men that everything that is wrong with society is what's wrong with them, And then you ask them, a woman particularly asks them, what's good about being a boy? 0.51

00:56:11.000 They don't know what to answer, because they're afraid that what they answer will be seen as sexist.

00:56:15.000 If a boy said, you know what I like about being a boy?

00:56:17.000 That I'm expected to be in a leadership role.

00:56:18.000 Be like, women don't have leadership roles too? 1.00

00:56:22.000 Or if they said, you know what I like about being a boy?

00:56:24.000 Moral responsibility.

00:56:26.000 Who died and made you king?

00:56:28.000 Why are your morals better than anybody else?

00:56:30.000 The left has been...

00:56:31.000 Overtly undermining, especially these ideas.

00:56:33.000 Barack Obama said yesterday, the world be better when led by women. 1.00

00:56:36.000 And then you're shocked when boys are like, I don't know.

00:56:38.000 I don't know.

00:56:39.000 What do you want me to say?

00:56:42.000 According to this writer for the Atlantic, it wasn't always thus.

00:56:45.000 According to Andrew Smiler, a psychologist who has studied the history of Western masculinity, the ideal late 19th century man was compassionate, a caretaker, but such qualities lost favor as paid labor moved from homes to factories during industrialization.

00:56:59.000 I'd just like to note, if the ideal late 19th century man, so this would be like 1890, was a caretaker and compassionate, that antedates the Industrial Revolution by about half a century.

00:57:10.000 So it really is not the Industrial Revolution that changed everything, it is the decline of religion in the West.

00:57:17.000 The Boy Scouts, whose creed urges its members to be loyal, friendly, courteous, and kind, was founded in 1910 in part to counter the dehumanizing trend Smiler attributes further distortions in masculinity to a century-long backlash against women's rights.

00:57:31.000 Ah, so again, it's what's wrong with men.

00:57:32.000 It's what's wrong with men.

00:57:34.000 During World War I, women proved they could keep the economy humming on their own. 1.00

00:57:37.000 Soon afterward, they secured the vote.

00:57:39.000 Instead of embracing gender equality, says this scholar, the country's leaders doubled down on the inalienable male right to power, emphasizing men's supposedly more logical and less emotional nature as a prerequisite for leadership.

00:57:50.000 Well, I'm confused as to the evidence for this proposition.

00:57:54.000 First of all, the notion that men are generally less emotional than women.

00:57:58.000 There have been some fairly good studies on this that suggest that women do have different emotional traits than men.

00:58:05.000 That does not mean that women can't be great leaders. 0.99

00:58:07.000 I can name Margaret Thatcher as a great leader.

00:58:08.000 I mean, there have been a lot of female great... I'm a huge Nikki Haley fan.

00:58:12.000 That's to suggest there are no differences between men and women in any of these categories, and then be like, but why don't men take a special role?

00:58:18.000 And when you destroy what men believe to be the traditional role of masculinity, and a special role for masculinity, what are they left with?

00:58:26.000 Their instinct.

00:58:26.000 And their instincts ain't good.

00:58:29.000 According to this article, during the second half of the 20th century, traditional paths to manhood, early marriage, and breadwinning began to close, along with the positive traits associated with them.

00:58:37.000 Today, many parents are unsure how to raise a boy.

00:58:39.000 What sort of masculinity to encourage in their sons?

00:58:41.000 You know who's not unsure?

00:58:42.000 Any religious parent you know.

00:58:44.000 They're not unsure, because they understand that it is the job of a male to protect and defend the happiness, health, and innocence of his wife and children.

00:58:55.000 That's not sexist.

00:58:56.000 That's what it's called to be a good man.

00:58:58.000 That doesn't mean that women don't have a role in doing those things too. 1.00

00:59:01.000 But men certainly have a role in doing all these things.

00:59:04.000 And when the feminist movement robbed men of this role and cast men into this bobbing sea, this weird sea of nothing is expected of you, why would you then expect anything of men?

00:59:17.000 Either something's expected or it isn't.

00:59:20.000 This woman says, Yes, the void left by the destruction of exactly the perspective on masculinity that the left destroyed.

00:59:35.000 That's what happened here.

00:59:36.000 And then boys don't have any place to go.

00:59:37.000 And then everybody's like, why are men acting terribly?

00:59:39.000 Because when you don't expect anything of boys, they don't become men.

00:59:43.000 When you don't expect anything of boys, they don't become men.

00:59:45.000 When you refuse to teach them that men have something special to do, they lose a cause, they lose a purpose, and they revert back to, again, that teenage-dominant, aggressive, testosterone-driven instinct.

00:59:55.000 Okay, we ran out of time for things I hate, so we'll have to save that for something else, but we'll be here later today with two additional hours of content, or we'll see you here tomorrow.

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01:00:36.000 Barack Obama is convinced that women are better than men.

01:00:40.000 At an event in Singapore, he declared women are indisputably better than men, and everything would be much better if women were in charge. 1.00

01:00:48.000 Meanwhile, in Washington, Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez complained that she couldn't figure out how to enroll in any of the 66 taxpayer-subsidized health insurance plans that she's eligible for.

01:01:00.000 We will examine how little Barack Obama understands.

The Ben Shapiro Show - December 17, 2019

The Poop Hits The Sidewalk | Ep. 918

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