New shocking details emerge in the timeline of the Uvalde school massacre, and those details entirely upend the left's favorite talking points about the police response to the mass shooting in El Paso, Texas on Valentine's Day. The White House won't even call for an investigation of the actions of the police in the shooting, despite the overwhelming evidence that the cops failed to do their job and did nothing to prevent the massacre of 19 children and six adults by a crazed gunman who walked into a school and gunned them down. Ben Shapiro explains why the White House isn't even looking into the matter, and why we should be looking at the problem of racism in the policing of mass shootings, not just in response to mass shootings like this one, but in every other mass shooting where police fail to protect innocent people from harm, no matter how many times they are called on to do the job, and no one is held accountable for it. The Ben Shapiro Show is sponsored by ExpressVPN. Get ExpressVPN right now at ExpressVpn.org/TheBenShapersonShow and get 20% off your first month with discount code "ExpressVPN" when you use discount code: PODCAST. at checkout at checkout. You'll get 10% off the entire month, plus free shipping and free shipping when you enter the expressVPN when you sign up using the promo code "PODCAST" at checkout, and a 20% discount when you become a patron! The show discount code is available through ExpressVPN, and I'll be giving you a FREE stock like Apple, too! when you shop at Apple. and use the discount code TheBen Shapiro Show. to receive $5, and get 5 stars and get an ad discount when they run your first week of the deal! and get a discount code of $50 or more than $25, and receive 5, and they also get 5, they'll get a complimentary carte-only 5,000 miles when you get my carte card when they enter the deal? Thanks Ben Shapiro is a supporter of the Ben Shapiro show. . Subscribe to the show! Learn more about your ad-free version of the show, Ben Shapiro's new book "The Ben Shapiro Podcast and more! at Ben Shapiro Watch this episode! Subscribe and review the show on Audible. Subscribe at apple.co/thebencrane and become a supporter!
00:00:00.000New shocking details emerge in the timeline of the Evaldi school massacre, and those details entirely upend left's favorite talking points.
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00:00:22.000There's a lot of talk every time there is a horrible mass shooting, a school shooting particularly, about the kinds of laws that need to be on the books.
00:00:30.000The kind of protocols that need to be adopted.
00:00:33.000The kind of black letter things that can be done to change the circumstances in which we live.
00:00:38.000There's only one problem with all this.
00:00:40.000When it comes down to it, the law is only implemented by human behavior.
00:00:44.000And so we have a bunch of laws on the books all the time that are violated in every one of these shootings, ranging from pure homicide laws to usually gun laws that are violated in the course of conduct.
00:00:53.000In this particular case, there is nothing in the state of Texas that allows a person under the age of 21 to, for example, carry a concealed handgun.
00:00:59.000You're not allowed to walk onto school premises with a gun.
00:01:02.000These are things that the shooter just did not care about and walked onto school premises and started murdering children.
00:01:08.000All of this sort of stuff happens all the time.
00:01:10.000And this is also true with regard to, for example, the Buffalo shooting.
00:01:15.000Nobody ever filed for an executive restraining order.
00:01:19.000No one ever filed for an ERPO, a restraining protective order, that would have prevented this person from being able to purchase guns despite a long and lengthy history of mental issues.
00:01:31.000So when the laws are on the books, but then they don't actually properly get enforced, this becomes a question of human behavior.
00:01:36.000And this is particularly true when it comes to police procedure.
00:01:38.000We've seen over and over again, whether it is Parkland or whether as it now turns out it is Uvalde, that the police in these cases, whether it is failures of training or failures of courage, have not done their job to protect innocent people.
00:01:50.000We saw this when it came to Parkland, most prominently, when it turned out that Scott Israel, the sheriff in Parkland, was completely incapable of either training his officers or getting his officers to go in and do what they had to do in order to stop the Parkland shooter.
00:02:03.000And then he sat by, grinning, as various members of the media and some of the schoolchildren themselves attacked politicians for broad-scale gun laws.
00:02:13.000Dana Lash was attacked on CNN as sort of the progenitor of the Parkland attack.
00:02:17.000Meanwhile, Scott Israel, who is really responsible for the failures of security that led to the Parkland shooting and to the terrible response of the Parkland PD, he was sitting there basically grinning it away on national TV.
00:02:29.000And we see this over and over and over again.
00:02:31.000There's a great irony to the fact that the left's attitude toward the police generally is incredibly skeptical.
00:02:36.000The idea is that the police are the repressive arm of the state.
00:02:49.000So yesterday, for example, the White House was specifically asked about the behavior of the police in Uvalde.
00:02:54.000And as we will discuss in just one moment, it now appears that there was basically no protection at the school, that the police did not do their jobs, the police set up a perimeter, the police did not intervene to stop the murder of these children for at least 40 minutes.
00:03:07.000And the White House, when asked about it, they said, we're not calling for an investigation.
00:03:09.000So every time a black person is shot under Conflicting circumstances.
00:03:15.000The White House calls for an investigation and seeks the DOJ and the police department.
00:03:18.000But when the police department completely fails to prevent a mass shooter going into murdering 19 school children, then the White House is like, well, we don't need an investigation.
00:03:25.000You know, we're going to wait for the facts.
00:03:26.000It's kind of incredible how this works.
00:03:29.000Does the president believe that there should be an investigation into the police response to this school shooting?
00:03:35.000The president, we've been watching the reporting on this.
00:03:40.000The president has the utmost respect, as you all know, for the men and women of law enforcement.
00:03:47.000And it is incredible how, if this had been a case in which a police officer was in a dispute with a person who grabbed for his gun and he shot the person, that person happened to be black and the police officer was white, you get the White House talking about how every one of these circumstances has to be investigated, we know that there's a problem of systemic racism in policing, they find the tape disturbing, and all the rest of it.
00:04:04.000But when you actually have a case where everyone should be disturbed at the behavior of the local police department, then the White House is like, no, no, no, we have the utmost respect for the police.
00:04:48.000What's not going to do it is a ban on 18-year-olds buying rifles.
00:04:51.000That is not going to stop school shootings.
00:04:54.000What is going to stop or minimize the damage from school shootings is all of the stuff that we know will do that because these are the security measures that we take at every federal building.
00:05:01.000These are security measures that we take at every bank.
00:05:03.000These are the security measures we take at every airport.
00:05:06.000But apparently they're not good enough for our school kids because we have to make political hay.
00:05:09.000Because here are the new details, and they're just unbelievably disturbing, according to the Wall Street Journal.
00:05:14.000Local residents voiced anger on Thursday about the time it took to end the mass shooting at an elementary school here, as police laid out a fresh timeline that showed the gunman entered the building unobstructed after lingering outside for 12 minutes firing shots.
00:05:25.000You remember, yesterday when we talked about this, the best information available from the Uvalde Police Department was that there had been a person at the school who was armed and got into a gun battle with the shooter, who then took refuge in the building, ran into the building.
00:05:39.000And that was after several police officers had driven up and started firing on this person, and then he went into the building.
00:05:44.000Now we are finding out there was no school resource officer there.
00:05:47.000There was no armed guard there, essentially.
00:05:50.000Victor Escalon, a regional director for the Texas Department of Public Safety, gave a new timeline of how the now-deceased gunman barricaded himself in a classroom and killed 19 children and two teachers.
00:06:00.000According to Victor Escalante, he says that the shooter was not confronted by armed security when he arrived at the school.
00:06:06.000He bust through a fence, and he climbed apparently like an eight-foot chain-link fence.
00:06:10.000He jumped the fence, and then he basically hung outside the school for 12 minutes, engaging with officers as they arrived, and then he went inside the school.
00:06:17.000Here is the Texas Police Regional Director who is talking about what exactly the shooter experienced when he arrived.
00:06:24.000It was reported that a school district police officer confronted The suspect was making entry.
00:07:37.000According to the Wall Street Journal, Mr. Escalon said he couldn't say why no one stopped the shooter from entering the school during that time on Tuesday.
00:07:43.000Most of the shots that the shooter fired came during the first several minutes after he entered the school, according to Escalon.
00:07:50.000People who arrived at the school while the shooter locked himself in a classroom or saw videos of police waiting outside were furious.
00:07:55.000The police were doing nothing, said Anjali Rose Gomez, who after learning about the shooting drove 40 miles to Robb Elementary, where her children are in second and third grade.
00:08:01.000They were just standing outside the fence.
00:08:05.000Escalon said the officers inside the school were evacuating students and school employees from the premises, as well as calling for backup.
00:08:27.000The shooter shot his grandmother on Tuesday morning and then drove her truck to Robb Elementary, crashing the vehicle into a ditch nearby at 11.28 a.m., according to a timeline laid out by Escalon.
00:08:36.000He then began shooting at people at a funeral home across the street, prompting a 911 call reporting a gunman at the school at 11.30.
00:08:42.000Then the shooter climbed a chain link fence about eight feet high onto the school grounds and began firing before walking inside unimpeded at 11.40.
00:08:49.000So, just to get this straight, he crashed his vehicle at 11.28.
00:08:53.000He did not walk inside to the school until 11.40.
00:08:56.000At no point was there anyone shooting at him here.
00:08:58.000In fact, the first shots fired at him came 11.44, which is fully 16 minutes after he had crashed his vehicle into a ditch, and fully 14 minutes after he had started shooting at people at this funeral home across the street, prompting that 911 call.
00:09:11.000The first police arrived on the scene at 11.44 and exchanged gunfire with the shooter, who locked himself in a fourth grade classroom.
00:09:16.000There, he killed the students and teachers.
00:09:19.000It took an hour for a Border Patrol tactical team to go into the school.
00:09:27.000Kaitlin Martinez, a fourth grader at Robb Elementary, was playing with other kids during recess when the shooter first appeared on school grounds with the AR-15 style rifle.
00:09:34.000Quote, we all ran in and they told us to sit down and they turned off the lights and locked the door, the 10-year-old said. Kaitlin said three police officers eventually came to the door of a room, which was near the one in which the shooter locked himself.
00:09:44.000They told us there was a gunman, so we had to evacuate.
00:09:46.000We all had to run to our parking spaces.
00:09:47.000Outside, she found her mother, Gladys Castilian, who had been pleading with the police to act more aggressively to end the standoff as she waited.
00:09:55.000Gomez, a farm supervisor, was also waiting outside for her children.
00:09:58.000She said she was one of numerous parents who began encouraging, first politely and then with more urgency, police and other law enforcement to enter the school sooner.
00:10:14.000She's shouting at the cops to go in and do something.
00:10:16.000And they have set up a perimeter and they are just sitting around out there for an hour, for a full hour after this piece of human debris entered the school and began shooting children.
00:10:24.000Gomez said she convinced local Uvalde police officers, whom she knew, to persuade the marshals to set her free.
00:11:06.000And listen, I understand the challenge is that there is no one who is more pro-police than I am.
00:11:11.000That person does not exist in the United States.
00:11:14.000But if you sign up for this job and there is a human piece of debris who is trying to enter an elementary school to murder kids, you go in.
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00:12:46.000According to a Texas police spokesman and Lieutenant Christopher Olivares, he says that the border police, the cops who went in, he said they went in on their own.
00:12:54.000He said that they weren't told to go in.
00:12:56.000Eventually, they said enough of this crap and they went in.
00:13:00.000We do know, Vanessa, right now that there was some police officers, families trying to get their children out of the school because it was an active shooter situation right now.
00:14:17.000He appeared last night on National TV, where he openly said, he's on CNN, that the reason that the cops didn't go in is they were afraid they were going to be shot.
00:14:57.000And at that point, that gunman would have had the opportunity to kill other people inside that school.
00:15:01.000So they were able to contain that gunman inside that classroom so that he was not able to go to any other portions of the school to commit any other killings.
00:15:11.000According to the Wall Street Journal, Bob Estrada lives directly across the street from the school, which his grandson attends.
00:15:16.000The 77-year-old said he and his wife walked outside when they heard gunshots and were confused why the police who arrived didn't immediately enter.
00:15:21.000They're trying to cover something up, he said of the information released Thursday.
00:15:24.000I think the cops were waiting for backup because they didn't want to go into the school.
00:15:27.000The Evaldi Police Department couldn't be reached for comment.
00:15:29.000Now, I was talking to some former police officers, and what they said is that the old protocol before things like Sandy Hook and Parkland was that this is what the cops would do.
00:15:36.000They would show up, they would create a perimeter, and then they would wait for SWAT to show up to root out the person who is committing the crime.
00:15:44.000But that's changed since Sandy Hook, since Parkland.
00:15:46.000Now, most police departments are trained.
00:15:49.000You do not wait around to see if the experts are going to show up to handle the thing because you don't have time.
00:15:56.000Virtually all of the damage is going to be done in the first few minutes of confrontation between the shooter and the innocent victims.
00:16:03.000Again, Escalon was asked why the police didn't respond for 12 minutes.
00:16:07.000He said, our job is to report the facts and have answers and we're not there yet.
00:16:10.000Escalon also said the cops are not sure how the shooter was able to enter the school building.
00:16:13.000He said, we'll find out more about why it was unlocked or maybe it was locked, but right now it appears it was unlocked.
00:16:18.000This person went in through the back door.
00:16:20.000Okay, so what this suggests is that there are eminently obvious solutions that are actually available that were not taken here.
00:16:30.000Armed people on campus to stop this stuff would have stopped this stuff, or at least could have stopped this stuff.
00:16:37.000Locking the doors could have, would have stopped this sort of stuff.
00:16:43.000But these are precisely the sort of solutions that nobody in the media actually wants to talk about because it doesn't cut in favor of broad-scale social change that they wish to engineer based on whatever is the most convenient story at hand.
00:16:52.000It is very odd in the United States that the time when we tend to have the gun control conversation is when there is a school shooting as opposed to, you know, the other 364 days of the year when lots and lots of people die from gun violence in the United States.
00:18:02.000We never talk about gun control in the context of where the vast majority of actual gun violence takes place in the country, because again, the case does not follow.
00:18:10.000The fact is, in the United States, every year, there are under 400 people who are killed using rifles.
00:18:15.000Every year in the United States, there are tens of thousands of people who are killed using handguns.
00:18:23.000We talk about making sure that 19-year-olds can't buy an AR-15, even though, again, the vast majority of gun violence in the country is done using handguns.
00:18:35.000This is a reporter on the street, and a man literally just walks by and points a gun at the camera.
00:18:41.000While our reporter was in the middle of a live report about gun violence in Chicago, a man walked up and pointed what appeared to be a firearm at our crew.
00:18:51.000Right now, police are calling this man a person of interest, accused of aggravated assault with a firearm.
00:18:57.000If you have any information regarding who he is or where he is, please contact Chicago Police.
00:19:12.000So when we talk about gun control, again, it is important to recognize the only time we have a mass media conversation on gun control is not when there's a normal weekend in Chicago.
00:19:20.000It is when there is a mass school shooting, which is a statistical outlier, both in terms of how many school shootings happen in the United States every year, every one of them an act of horrific evil, and also how many people die in such incidents versus how many people die using other weapons across the United States and where they die in the United States using those weapons.
00:19:39.000Which suggests that a lot of this is politically driven because when it comes to the actual solutions to school shootings, they actually are quite different from the solutions that would attend to, for example, gun violence between gangs in major American cities.
00:19:52.000The media don't want to talk about all that, so they sort of use these school shootings as a hook to talk about gun control.
00:19:58.000And then they propose a bunch of stuff that wouldn't have actually stopped the school shooting from happening in the first place.
00:20:03.000There's so much tragedy upon tragedy happening in Uvalde.
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00:22:03.000And some of them are making it perfectly obvious.
00:22:05.000So, for example, Senator Richard Blumenthal from from Connecticut. He says that gun violence is going to be on the ballot, right? And this is what they want. They didn't bring up any votes. They didn't bring up any votes on gun action in the last couple of days. Chuck Schumer said he's not going to, because they don't actually want to vote, because it turns out a lot of the stuff they're proposing is unpopular.
00:22:25.000The idea here is if you don't like gun violence, you should vote for us. We don't have solutions, but the other guys love gun violence. So you should vote for us. It'll be on the ballot.
00:22:34.000Here's Richard Blumenthal. Let me be very blunt. Gun violence prevention is going to be on the ballot this November.
00:22:42.000It will be on the ballot this November, and we need to make it a decisive issue.
00:22:49.000And we will vote them out if they fail to vote the right way.
00:22:59.000What is the proposal that you have made that would have stopped a school shooting like this?
00:23:02.000No one can answer that very simple question.
00:23:04.000I have made multiple proposals on this program and for years about how you stop school shootings like this, ranging from the societal.
00:23:10.000You need to create social institutions that prevent family breakdown.
00:23:13.000You need to have stronger communities where people are actually aware of the red flags in their communities and are taking advantage of the existing laws, like red flag laws, in order to inform the police when there is a dangerous person in the community and giving the police the power to actually do something about that, changing the mental health statutes so that people who are a danger to themselves and others can be involuntarily committed for longer than 48 hours before you just release them back onto the street to murder people.
00:23:37.000Hardening schools, making sure that there's the proper fencing, making sure that there are armed guards on premises, making sure that there's one point of entry and multiple points of exit, making sure that the doors inside the buildings automatically lock when teachers enter and exit rooms so that if somebody gets into the hallway, they can't just go room to room shooting people.
00:23:53.000All of these are things that, by the way, are recommended by security professionals right, left, and center.
00:23:58.000Nothing I'm saying here is outside the mainstream, and all of it is very doable.
00:24:01.000But we don't have any of those conversations.
00:24:03.000Instead, it's about demonization of people who, what, believe in school shootings?
00:24:08.000I don't believe that Democrats believe in school shootings.
00:24:10.000I believe they're politically pandering right now.
00:24:12.000But I certainly don't believe that they are in league with school shooters, but they seem to believe that everybody who disagrees with them is in league with school shooters.
00:24:18.000Joe Biden yesterday, he said the only reason to own an AR-15 is because basically you're a sicko.
00:24:23.000Here's the President of the United States yesterday.
00:24:26.000What in God's name do you need an assault weapon for except to kill someone?
00:24:32.000Deer aren't running through the forest with Kevlar vests on, for God's sake.
00:25:03.000That's why I think the vast majority of Americans own a rifle.
00:25:06.000It's why you have people who are on campus carrying AR-15s, depending on which campus you are on.
00:25:11.000It's why you have armed security guards to act as both a deterrent and actually as a first line of defense if somebody decides to do something like this.
00:25:20.000But the White House's idea is always gun control and gun control only.
00:25:23.000It's not just that this is one of their myriad proposals.
00:26:02.000See if the American people are willing to do this.
00:26:03.000By the way, even when they had a mass gun confiscation and buyback in Australia, only one third of people who actually own guns turned in their guns.
00:26:11.000The rates of gun violence in Australia were already quite low before they had that mass gun confiscation and gun buyback.
00:26:17.000Karine Jean-Pierre suggests, well, you know, if more guns were the solution, we'd be the safest country, which is just... There are many holes in this logic.
00:26:56.000So instead of trying to target the people who are irresponsible or mentally ill or sick or evil, instead of trying to target that, your solution is to try to take the guns away from law-abiding people?
00:27:06.000I have a counter to if more guns were the solution, we'd be the safest country.
00:27:09.000If more gun laws were the solution, Chicago would be the safest city.
00:27:13.000If more gun laws were the solution, Washington, D.C.
00:27:18.000All of this springs from a deeper notion, which is that the government can solve every problem by passing a law, which just isn't, it's never true.
00:27:25.000Government cannot solve every problem simply by passing a law.
00:27:27.000It requires human beings to implement that law.
00:27:29.000It requires people to comply with the law.
00:27:45.000But again, they have to come up with some bad guy and then target the bad guy as political oppositions.
00:27:50.000Karine Jean-Pierre, she says the NRA is contributing to gun violence.
00:27:53.000This is coming from the party that has ripped on the police so routinely that the murder rates have spiked by a huge percentage over the last few years in every major American city.
00:28:03.000And they're saying it's the NRA contributing to gun violence.
00:28:05.000The NRA is basically A defunct organization at this point.
00:28:08.000The NRA does not have anything close to the kind of power that it had 20 years ago.
00:28:12.000The NRA has been having all sorts of internal corruption issues.
00:28:14.000It's been having all sorts of internal financial issues.
00:28:17.000It doesn't have the kind of sway and pull that it used to have.
00:28:21.000The truth is that the gun lobby in the United States is just people who like the Second Amendment.
00:28:26.000The vast majority of people I know who own guns are not members of the NRA.
00:28:29.000And the vast, vast, vast majority of people I know who are advocates of Second Amendment rights are not members of the NRA.
00:28:35.000This is just pointing out the NRA is way weaker than it once was.
00:28:37.000And not only that, even when the NRA was strong, that was not the reason why people liked the Second Amendment in the United States as a lobbying group.
00:28:44.000This is like saying that Planned Parenthood is solely responsible for abortion law in the United States.
00:28:50.000Abortion law in California, Planned Parenthood's prevalence in California is reflective of the fact that there are a lot of people who love abortion in California.
00:28:56.000Here's Karine Jean-Pierre suggesting it's the NRA contributing to gun violence, not, for example, allowing the mentally ill to be out on the streets able to do whatever they want without involuntary commitment laws on the books.
00:29:07.000It's not a question of police procedures.
00:29:09.000It's not a question of yelling at the police every five minutes and sticking the DOJ on them.
00:29:14.000It's not a problem of family breakdown.
00:29:20.000What is inappropriate is that the leadership of the National Rifle Association has proven time and time again that they are contributing to the problem of gun violence, not trying to solve it.
00:29:30.000And it's shameful that the NRA and their allies have stood in the way of every attempt to advance measures that we all know will save lives from gun violence.
00:30:05.000You are a danger to society and to America if you continue to oppose these common sense measures.
00:30:17.000Oh, you're a danger to America if you oppose me.
00:30:21.000Some of the other ridiculous proposals that have been made.
00:30:23.000So Democrats have a variety of proposals.
00:30:26.000And they are making right now, not before, of course, suggesting that they are the solution.
00:30:31.000They themselves are the solution to school shootings, even when they're mass shootings that take place fairly routinely in their states.
00:30:35.000Gavin Newsom doing this, the governor of California who was subjected to a recall by his own citizens.
00:30:41.000He survived the recall, but he is certainly not any great shakes as a governor.
00:30:44.000There's a reason people are leaving California in droves.
00:30:46.000He was ripping on the state of Texas and suggesting that Texas is really, really bad because you have the freedom to keep and bear arms in the state of Texas.
00:30:55.000Do not give in to the cynicism and all the crap that you heard today in that press conference around evil and mental health that completely belies the fact that there's only one nation on planet Earth that separates itself from all other nations, and that's the United States of America.
00:31:19.000And the perversion of a second amendment that begins around well-regulated.
00:31:27.000Okay, that is, first of all, he doesn't understand the Second Amendment at all.
00:31:32.000Well-regulated does not mean regulations, as in, like, law.
00:31:36.000A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the preservation of a free state, the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
00:31:41.000That phraseology means a militia that regulates, meaning that they were called regulars, that actually goes out and practices, being necessary to the preservation of a free state from the federal government and foreign invaders.
00:31:55.000The right to keep and bear arms on an individual level shall not be infringed.
00:31:58.000Because you know who constituted the militia?
00:31:59.000It wasn't just like there was a shack there with all the guns.
00:32:01.000And the head of the militia would call everybody up on the phone and be like, hey, go get your gun from the shack over there.
00:32:05.000Everybody had their gun at their house.
00:32:43.000Once you adjust for population, there are many other countries, from Germany to Russia to Finland, that have comparable rates of school shooting.
00:33:06.000The entirety of Europe is only about twice that of the United States, a little over twice that of the United States.
00:33:12.000We're a very large country, which means that there are a lot of varieties and laws.
00:33:16.000There are a lot of evil people out there.
00:33:20.000And so, then we get to the actual proposals, and the proposals are increasingly stupid.
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00:35:00.000So then there are a bunch of solutions that are being proposed by the left.
00:35:09.000So I've already proposed to you a bevy of solutions that apparently are not worthy of consideration, ranging from, you know, lock the doors, to change the protocols for the police, to train the police better, to make sure the police actually go in and stop bad guys, to making sure there are armed guards on school premises that people can't just When I began as a federal agent, I carried a gun and two extra mags every day.
00:35:26.000My mags were marked for law enforcement use only because they held more than 10 rounds.
00:35:29.000Democrats, however, have different solutions.
00:35:31.000So for example, Representative Abigail Spanberger, a supposed moderate from the state of Virginia, she suggests what we really need here is we need to change the ability to reload on guns.
00:35:40.000Quote, when I began as a federal agent, I carried a gun and two extra mags every day.
00:35:44.000My mags were marked for law enforcement use only because they held more than 10 rounds.
00:35:47.000At that time, federal law limited magazine capacity to 10 rounds outside of law enforcement use.
00:35:51.000That provision was part of the 1994 federal assault weapons ban, which expired in 2004.
00:35:56.000Large capacity magazines equate to more fatalities when a would-be shooter can fire shot after shot.
00:36:00.000Research confirms that limiting magazine capacity saves lives.
00:36:03.000She does not cite the research that demonstrates this.
00:36:05.000The sad reality is that requiring would-be mass murderers to reload saves lives, permitting people escape time and law enforcement response time.
00:36:12.000That is why I support legislation to limit magazine capacity.
00:36:15.000So, again, they've done this in California.
00:36:16.000There's only one problem with this sort of logic, and that is that it is stupid.
00:36:20.000The reality is, That if you are a person who is dedicated to committing a mass shooting, you'll simply modify your gun.
00:36:27.000The reason that I point this out is because this is precisely what the Buffalo shooter did.
00:36:30.000Quote, massacre suspect said he modified Bushmaster rifle to hold more ammunition, according to the Washington Post, May 15th, 2022.
00:36:39.000The suspect in the Buffalo supermarket massacre purchased the primary weapon allegedly used in the shooting, a used Bushmaster XM-15 semi-automatic rifle from a licensed dealer near his hometown, but said he then illegally modified the gun so he could use a high-capacity magazine.
00:36:53.000He said he bought the Bushmaster in January from Vintage Firearms, a small gun store about 15 miles from his home in Conklin, New York, paying $960 for the rifle, a sling to carry it, and some ammo.
00:37:02.000He also recounted how he acquired two backup weapons, a Mossberg 500 shotgun and a Savage Axis XP bolt-action rifle he received from his father as a Christmas present when he was 16 years old.
00:37:12.000And again, he suggested that he modified the gun itself so that it would actually hold more ammunition.
00:37:19.000So, good luck with this being, so your solution is not more armed guards in schools, or hardening the security perimeter, or making sure that the police actually know how to deal with this sort of stuff, or punishing the police for not dealing with this sort of stuff.
00:37:30.000No, your solution is, he's gonna have to take the one and a half seconds to pop out a mag and pop in a new mag.
00:37:37.000That is gonna be brilliant, brilliant stuff.
00:37:40.000Meanwhile, in even dumber solutions, a reporter yesterday suggested To the White House.
00:37:45.000And the White House took it under advisement that perhaps what we need to do here is punish gun companies by removing from them the PPP loans that were available to businesses that were shut down during COVID.
00:37:57.000And the White House is like, well, maybe.
00:38:01.000So now the idea from the White House is you are a legal business that carries on the transactions of producing firearms that people generally use for home defense and hunting and business defense and defensive self and others.
00:38:13.000And we are going to go back in time, and if somebody bought your gun and then used it to murder people, we are going to retroactively remove your loans. We're going to remove the grants that we gave you from the federal government. This is what a reporter suggests. And Kareem Jean-Pierre is like, well, give me the name of the company. We'll, we'll, hmm.
00:38:32.000Apparently, the company that sold the shooter his rifles received a $3 million $1.2 million PPP loan under the last administration.
00:38:45.000Do you know if there's any effort by this administration to claw that money back?
00:38:49.000Honestly, Michael, I need to check with the team and just make sure that is actually factual, but I need to check with the team.
00:39:01.000How about we do not have, as the White House, the capacity to claw back legally given grants to legal companies in the United States, no matter how much we disagree with that business operating?
00:39:16.000Meanwhile, you have Ed Markey, who's just... Every hook is a useful hook to achieve the sorts of solutions that you wanted in the first place.
00:39:23.000It's amazing how everything always confirms the priors of these politicians.
00:39:26.000So Senator Ed Markey from Massachusetts, he says, you know what we need to do?
00:39:32.000I mean, it's almost as though he wanted to expand the Supreme Court before the school shooting, and now he has another excuse to talk about expanding the Supreme Court.
00:39:38.000We have to expand the Supreme Court to get back the two stolen seats that the Republicans and Donald Trump took from the American people so that we can ensure that when we put gun safety laws on the books, they are not overridden.
00:39:59.000So the solutions we have now are banning larger magazines.
00:40:04.000We are going to expand the Supreme Court.
00:40:07.000We are going to propose vague, common-sense gun reform, without actually specifying what that gun reform would be.
00:40:13.000We're going to talk about universal background checks between private sellers, despite the fact that, again, this suspect, in this particular case, bought his guns legally, after a federal background check, which is federally required.
00:40:22.000When you buy a gun from a federally licensed firearms dealer, I've done it several times, when you do that, you actually have to have a background check, and they make you come back in a couple of days, depending on how long it takes for the background check to be conducted.
00:40:34.000But we're gonna pretend that that solves it.
00:40:37.000They will just full-scale just deny solutions.
00:40:39.000Because after all, if solutions were actually effectuated, then perhaps you wouldn't have a hook to run on in 2022.
00:40:45.000There is Chris Murphy, who's the worst of the worst on this issue, from Connecticut, saying that all evidence shows that guns in schools is not the answer.
00:40:56.000Weird, because it seems like the Capitol Police are guarding him, like, right now, as he speaks.
00:41:01.000Over and over again, we have been given proof that arming our schools, putting adults with guns in and around our schools, doesn't seem to protect our kids.
00:41:10.000There was plenty of adults with guns at that school two days ago.
00:41:14.000There was a person with a gun in Parkland.
00:41:17.000There was a person with a gun in Dayton.
00:41:19.000For my colleagues here who say the answer is to just put more people with guns in our schools, all the evidence tells us that that's not true.
00:41:30.000In Parkland, the person with the gun ran away.
00:41:32.000And when it came to this particular case, there was no person with a gun.
00:41:37.000And as a person who puts their kids in a school where there are men with guns standing outside, I can promise you that is significantly more of a deterrent than not having a gun out there.
00:41:48.000These people, whether it's Hollywood celebrities who are on set where there are armed security all around the set, or whether it is Chris Murphy standing inside the Capitol building protected by Capitol Police.
00:41:56.000And by the way, the minute that Capitol Police were not protecting the building, there were rioters who smashed into the building and threatened Congress people on January 6th.
00:42:05.000When he suggests that armed people do not protect other people, I don't know what the hell he's talking about.
00:42:10.000I don't know where... All the evidence suggests this?
00:43:04.000Except that's exactly how this stopped.
00:43:05.000That's how all of these situations stop.
00:43:06.000It stops when finally somebody who's good with a gun goes and stops the bad guy with the gun.
00:43:10.000That is literally what happens every time.
00:43:12.000And you know what we never talk about are the cases where somebody is going to commit a crime and then somebody with a gun shows up and stops them because they don't turn into national headlines where dozens of people are shot.
00:43:23.000So they're just going to continue trotting out these illogical... It's amazing, it's amazing.
00:43:27.000So here, our media are fully invested and dedicated to the idea that the only thing that alleviates you of the charge, that you don't care about dead kids, the only thing that alleviates you of that charge is agreeing with them that wide-scale, common-sense gun reform, which they never happen to flesh out, is the answer.
00:43:43.000If you side with them, you are a member of the elect.
00:43:45.000You're a member of the predestined for heaven elect who never have to actually change policy to protect kids.
00:43:50.000All you have to do is say that you believe if you clap hard enough for gun control Tinkerbell, then kids will not die anymore.
00:43:57.000That is what we don't have to propose any policy that makes sense.
00:43:59.000We don't have to explain how that policy is well calibrated.
00:44:01.000We don't have to explain how we're going to effectuate that policy.
00:44:04.000We don't even have to explain how it would have stopped this shooting.
00:44:28.000His name is Gregory Jackson, saying we've seen clearly there's no such thing as a good guy taking out a bad guy, except for, again, this is literally how every one of these shootings eventually ends, is when good guys with guns stop bad guys with guns or intimidate them into killing themselves.
00:44:41.000We've seen very clearly that, you know, there's no such thing as a good guy with a gun taking out a bad guy with a gun.
00:44:49.000You know, someone who was a lifetime gun owner, a retired police officer and security guard who sacrificed his life trying to stop that gunman.
00:44:58.000But when you're someone going up against an assault rifle and a world of hate, unfortunately, people are getting outgunned every day.
00:45:12.000They're just a propaganda outlet on behalf of the left-wing.
00:45:17.000Perfect example, today's Washington Post.
00:45:19.000Going after, again, just as you, it's a coordinated attack now, on the manufacturer of the gun.
00:45:24.000So the idea is that if you manufacture a weapon and then somebody goes and uses the weapon for an act of evil, somehow you are responsible for the use of that weapon in an act of evil.
00:45:31.000Logically, you would never apply it to any other weapon in the history of humanity.
00:45:34.000You would never apply it to knives, you would never apply it to cars, you would never apply it to any other object that could be used in a dangerous way.
00:45:41.000There are many objects that can be used in a dangerous way.
00:45:44.000But we never would suggest that the manufacturer and seller of that object is somehow responsible for the use of that object in a crime.
00:45:54.000But now they are arguing that not only should these manufacturers be held responsible, but that the manufacturers are actually in control of American politics.
00:46:01.000Because after all, who would not side with the angels?
00:46:04.000The offer is you can be on the side of the angels.
00:46:06.000So if you're not siding with the angels, it must be because somebody's paying you off.
00:46:09.000So you have the Washington Post today, quote, First of all, are we supposed to be surprised that gun manufacturers typically support the party that does not want to restrict gun rights?
00:47:09.000Quote, the owners of Daniel Defense, the manufacturer of the rifle apparently used in the massacre of 21 people at an elementary school in Valdez, Texas, are deep-pocketed Republicans' owners, giving to candidates and committees at the federal and state level aligned against limits on access to assault rifles and other semi-automatic weapons.
00:47:24.000The owners of the Georgia-based company have donated more than $70,000 directly to GOP candidates for federal office this election cycle, according to review of filings with the FEC.
00:47:33.000Daniel Defense itself gave $100,000 last year to a PAC backing incumbent Republican senators.
00:47:39.000The spending by Marvin Daniel and his wife, Cindy Daniel, illustrates the financial clout of the gun industry.
00:47:44.000Even as political spending by the NRA has declined in recent years, and it shows how surge in gun sales during COVID have empowered manufacturers to expand their marketing and political advocacy.
00:47:53.000Experts say, oh, well, if the experts say so, well, then that means...
00:47:58.000First of all, this is what we call elementary logic.
00:48:00.000If you are a gun manufacturer, you are going to support people who are in favor of your business continuing to thrive.
00:48:06.000You are probably a believer in the Second Amendment and a believer that people have a right to defend themselves with your weaponry.
00:48:12.000Is it a shock that you support this party?
00:48:15.000What, are you going to support the people who are literally saying that you're a murderer?
00:48:39.000If your business comes under fire from the media, they will immediately dig up any donation you ever gave, and then they will attempt to punish you on the front page of their newspaper.
00:48:48.000Because this is not journalism, it is just activism.
00:48:51.000Timothy Lytton, a law professor at Georgia State University, says the ability of the industry to use money to advance its political agenda has increased given the dramatic rise in firearm sales we've seen over the last two or three years.
00:49:01.000So in other words, we can't actually show that anybody's been paid off or that any bribery occurs.
00:49:05.000We can't show that that's a thing that happens.
00:49:07.000What we can show is that people are buying more guns.
00:49:12.000The reason over the last couple of years that people particularly have been buying a lot of guns is because they don't feel safe because you undermine the cops in every community in the United States.
00:49:20.000My wife and I thought seriously of buying additional guns, specifically because of the riots in California, that were predominantly backed by major Democrats who refused to condemn them.
00:49:31.000But apparently we must have been paid by Daniel Defense or something.
00:49:35.000Meanwhile, you have the New York Times doing its own version of journal activism.
00:49:38.000On the front page, quote, where Senate Republicans stand on gun legislation.
00:49:42.000How about where Senate Democrats stand on hardening school safety standards?
00:49:45.000Where Democrats stand on putting armed guards in schools to protect your kids the same way the Democrats protect their money?
00:49:53.000I don't see that article from the New York Times, but again, they get to define the narrative.
00:49:55.000Always and forever, they define the narrative.
00:49:57.000It's one of the great frustrations of life, is that whenever something happens, everybody on the right is expected to play defense.
00:50:02.000When there is a shooting at a Buffalo supermarket by a white supremacist who identifies as neither right nor left, you, normal everyday Republican voter, or you, independent voter who may not back a Democrat in this election cycle, you're forced on the defensive to explain why you don't back that guy, and why you don't back white supremacy, and why he doesn't reflect your ideology.
00:50:19.000When there is a shooting, By a person with obvious serious mental issues.
00:50:27.000In Texas, Marine school kids, you will be placed on defensive to explain why you do not back this.
00:50:32.000Because they get to define the narrative.
00:50:33.000This is what the New York Times does, quote.
00:50:37.000The New York Times reached out on Wednesday and Thursday to all 50 Republicans in the Senate to see whether they would support a pair of House-passed measures to strengthen background checks for gun buyers.
00:50:44.000Within hours of the elementary school shooting in Ubalde, Senate Democrats moved quickly to clear the way for possible votes on the two bills.
00:50:49.000That's a lie, because Senator Chuck Schumer says that he is not going to push those bills for at least another couple of weeks.
00:50:54.000The legislation would expand criminal background checks to would-be purchasers on the internet and at gun shows, and give the FBI more time to investigate gun buyers flagged by the instant background check system.
00:51:03.000Okay, so that's not actually what the legislation does.
00:51:05.000It prevents people If I want to sell a gun to my brother-in-law, for example, it would prevent me from doing that by creating a full-scale federal gun registry, so that if the gun got transferred from me to my brother-in-law, and then it was found at the scene of a crime, they could prosecute me.
00:51:21.000That's not... If you buy a gun over the internet, you have to... I've done it.
00:51:25.000You have to go to a federally licensed firearms dealer to pick up the gun, and they do a background check on you before you are allowed to take it home.
00:51:34.000The vast majority of Republicans, according to the New York Times, have opposed gun safety legislation for years, banding together to block its consideration or refusing to bring it up.
00:51:42.000Any deal in the 50-50 Senate would need the support of at least 10 Republicans.
00:51:45.000Most Republicans who have responded to the Times so far have either declined to take a position or signaled they would oppose the measures, citing concerns about infringing on the rights of gun owners.
00:51:52.000All but one Democrat is supportive, Senator Joe Manchin.
00:51:55.000So again, Democrats propose a thing, now Republicans explain why you don't support it.
00:52:12.000In August 2020, law enforcement officers from five agencies converged inside the hallways of a school in Uvalde, Texas, their guns drawn, role-playing how they would halt a gunman.
00:52:20.000The training, detailed in documents reviewed by the New York Times, was part of an overhaul of security preparedness in Uvalde and across much of Texas.
00:52:26.000Uvalde school officials were doubling their budget for security, updating protocols, adding officers to the district's police department.
00:52:32.000As the city's separate police force dispatched its SWAT team in tactical gears to learn the layout of school buildings.
00:52:37.000But none of the extensive preparations halted the rampage of an 18-year-old gunman who entered a Novaldi elementary school this week and killed 19 children and two teachers.
00:52:44.000Again, this entire article is directed at the idea that no matter what you do to train cops, no matter how many armed guards you put on it, it's going to have to be gun laws that solves the problem.
00:52:53.000But obviously none of this was implemented.
00:52:59.000There is little evidence nationally, says the New York Times, that the dollars poured into school security measures have decreased gun violence in schools, according to a 2019 study co-written by Yagdish Khubachandani, a professor of public health at New Mexico State University.
00:53:11.000These security measures are not effective and they are not catching up to the ease of access with which people are acquiring guns in the pandemic.
00:53:17.000So I feel like those are two unrelated issues.
00:53:19.000One is, are the security protocols good?
00:53:26.000But we're treating them as conflated because again, the idea for the Democrats is if you talk about anything but gun control, then this means that you're in favor of shootings.
00:53:35.000But as I have suggested, the rate of school shootings, it seems to be largely at unprotected public schools.
00:53:42.000Gun-free zones declared by law, where there is not sufficient protection.
00:53:46.000I don't know how many times you can argue this over and over.
00:53:51.000They keep saying, well, the law enforcement training didn't do it.
00:53:53.000Well, maybe the law enforcement training isn't good enough.
00:53:55.000Maybe we haven't funded enough in order to harden these security protocols.
00:53:59.000We don't have any of the measures that we've talked about.
00:54:02.000But again, the idea is that the only way to do this is to widely confiscate weaponry, which is the only thing that they actually won't talk about.
00:54:09.000They won't actually talk about what they want.
00:54:10.000Because if they talk about what they want, they lose.
00:54:13.000And all of this is, in the end, about how they're morally outraged.
00:54:17.000And if you don't agree with me, you're not morally outraged.
00:54:19.000Roxanne Gage is saying the quiet part out loud at the New York Times, quote, don't talk to me about civility.
00:54:23.000On Tuesday morning, those children were alive.
00:54:25.000So I get to yell at you and claim that you love dead kids because after all, I'm a good person and you're a bad person because you disagree with me.
00:54:36.000Incivility runs through the history of this country, says Roxane Gay, founded on stolen land, built with the labor of stolen lives.
00:54:42.000The document that governs our lives effectively denied more than half of the population the right to vote.
00:54:45.000Again, this ties into a broader left-wing vision.
00:54:48.000The United States is evil from its root, and civility is just a way of facilitating that evil.
00:54:53.000So if we are uncivil, and if we are terrible to one another, and if we pretend that the people we disagree with actually like when kids get shot in school, then probably that will solve the problem.
00:55:02.000Or, alternatively, it's not about solving the problem, it's just about making yourself feel good for doing things that are completely non-coordinated with the actual problem at hand.
00:55:12.000Alrighty, again, none of this is going to end with any action that prevents this sort of stuff.
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