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00:01:56.000The breaking news today is that the Supreme Court has upheld President Trump's travel ban.
00:02:01.000It was not a travel ban, according to the Trump administration, but it was a travel ban for particular countries.
00:02:06.000There were seven different countries from which travel was essentially banned because we could not vet people who are coming in from those countries.
00:02:12.000In a 5-4 decision, the Supreme Court on Tuesday upheld President Trump's temporary travel ban, affecting several countries recognized as state sponsors
00:02:19.000of terrorism, according to Emily Zanotti over at Daily Wire.
00:02:22.000Chief Justice John Roberts wrote the opinion, and it appears both Justice Neil Gorsuch and Justice Anthony Kennedy agreed with the majority, handing President Trump's Justice Department a win on the issue.
00:02:33.000He noted that the president, quote, lawfully exercised the broad discretion granted to him under Section 1182F to suspend the entry of aliens into the United States.
00:02:40.000And the president of the United States does have plenary power to suspend immigration in this sort of fashion for security purposes.
00:02:47.000The court also noted that the president's interest in preserving national security, particularly in light of terrorism concerns, overrides concerns pertaining to the free exercise of religion as codified in the First Amendment's Establishment Clause.
00:02:58.000That was always a stupid argument, the argument that the First Amendment's Establishment Clause applies to people who are not American citizens.
00:03:04.000So if you are in Iran and you want to get into the United States and we say, well, we're banning certain religions, as bad as that policy would be, as stupid as that policy would be, it doesn't violate the First Amendment.
00:03:14.000It can't just be somebody in the middle of a hill in Afghanistan and you say, well, you're violating my First Amendment rights.
00:03:20.000You don't have First Amendment rights under the Constitution of the United States.
00:03:23.000In the case of the travel ban, it's entirely possible that the danger of importing known terrorists or supporters of terror outweighs potential First Amendment concerns.
00:03:38.000Opponents of the ban had asked the court to apply a rational basis standard.
00:03:41.000The court did not appear to agree on the matter, even considering the president's tweet about Islam.
00:03:46.000So there are all these courts, these lower courts that had quoted President Trump, suggesting that he was a bigot and that's what was motivating all of this.
00:03:51.000And the court said, listen, you can't just cite a bunch of presidential tweets or presidential candidate tweets in support of the proposition that a piece of legislation is inherently bad.
00:04:00.000You actually have to show that the legislation violates the Constitution.
00:04:03.000This piece of legislation, or at least this regulation from the executive branch,
00:04:06.000Meanwhile, the continuation of the mob discussion continues forthwith.
00:04:24.000Focus on people who are protesting Trump administration officials at restaurants and trying to get them thrown out of restaurants and and shouting outside of people's homes and intimidating people in public places.
00:04:34.000You recall yesterday we talked about Maxine Waters, representative from California, who went out there and said that you should have mobs basically run people down at gas stations and get them not to participate in public life by screaming at them using these intimidation tactics.
00:04:47.000A lot of folks on the left have said this is a bad idea, which is good for them, right?
00:04:53.000It turns out that even the Red Hen story, the story about Sarah Huckabee Sanders going into a Red Hen in Lexington, Virginia and being turned away with her family, it didn't actually end there.
00:05:00.000According to Sarah Huckabee Sanders, employees at the Red Hen then followed her to the next restaurant where they attempted to heckle her at a restaurant that was not their own, which, as I said yesterday, is even worse than a restaurant owner just throwing somebody out for politics.
00:05:14.000Actually going to somebody else's restaurant and heckling somebody until they leave is close to a brown shirt tactic in public life.
00:05:22.000It is a nasty, nasty tactic that has been used by sort of mobs everywhere in order to intimidate people into not getting involved in politics.
00:05:29.000Well, people on both sides of the aisle have now condemned this.
00:05:32.000Sarah Huckabee Sanders, yesterday she slammed Maxine Waters for pushing for exactly this sort of mob action.
00:05:36.000Here is the White House Press Secretary.
00:05:39.000Okay, all of that is fine, and she's exactly right.
00:05:41.000The Democrats, top Democrats, are saying the same thing.
00:05:43.000Chuck Schumer came out and condemned Maxine Waters.
00:07:02.000A mentality that suggests that lack of civility on the other side is the real problem
00:07:09.000Generally allows people on your side to act with lack of civility.
00:07:12.000So there's a lot of good psychological studies that suggest that if you believe you are a victim, you are more likely to act out against somebody else.
00:07:19.000Every victimizer believes at root that they are a victim.
00:07:22.000Hitler believed that he was a victim of the world.
00:07:24.000He believed that the Jews were victimizing his country, and so he was therefore justified in acting out.
00:07:28.000Very rare that you find somebody who's an aggressor who doesn't claim that they were acting in some sort of vague sense of self-defense.
00:07:34.000Well, this is what Democrats are doing now.
00:07:35.000Democrats are basically suggesting that Trump started all of this.
00:07:38.000And Trump, meanwhile, is suggesting that Democrats started all of this.
00:07:41.000Now, I think the Democrats got uncivil long before Republicans did.
00:07:44.000I think they were deeply uncivil during the Bush administration when they were calling Bush Hitler.
00:07:48.000I think that President Obama was uncivil in the way that he was fomenting riots in places like Ferguson, Missouri and Baltimore, Maryland.
00:07:56.000But does that does that mean that we have an excuse for exacerbating the incivility?
00:08:00.000I don't think so, because the bottom line is that we can now have this reactionary back and forth of incivility across the political aisle as long as we want to do it.
00:08:07.000I just don't think that's going to make the country better in any way.
00:08:09.000But my argument is likely to lose because I'm saying that we should take a moral high ground here, that we should take a stand in favor of civility, that even if somebody
00:08:17.000is attempting to protest you and destroy you by going into a restaurant and yelling at you that this is not an excuse for you to do the same thing to people on the other side of the aisle.
00:08:26.000I understand that's an unpopular perspective right now and this is how you have entire political parties that are captured by a base.
00:08:32.000So while you have Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi condemning Maxine Waters,
00:08:36.000I really think that Maxine Waters is the future of the Democratic Party, in just the same way that you saw Democrats during 2008, 2012, 2016, suggesting that Bernie Sanders was too radical, and then Bernie Sanders took over the entire base.
00:08:47.000I think the same thing holds true here.
00:08:49.000Maxine Waters is channeling the most extreme side of the Democratic base, and that extreme side of the Democratic base has a lot of emotion behind it.
00:08:55.000And even people in the mainstream of the Democratic Party, they may disagree with the tactics, but they agree with the sentiment.
00:09:01.000And so I think Maxine Waters, in the end, is probably going to win this one in the long run.
00:09:04.000I don't think a return to civility is in the cards anytime soon.
00:09:07.000Here's Maxine Waters, who is expressing exactly what I'm talking about, blaming Trump for her own nasty and evil actions here.
00:09:15.000I don't know why the president chose to stretch that out and and try to imply that I was causing harm.
00:09:23.000As a matter of fact, the president calls for more violence than anybody else.
00:09:28.000Okay, so Maxine Waters, again, saying that it's totally okay for her to call for violence or mob action because Trump, she thinks, called for violence or mob action.
00:09:37.000Then President Trump has responded basically in kind, right?
00:09:39.000President Trump has suggested that there would be consequences for what Maxine Waters had to say, that there would be backlash.
00:09:47.000And as I say, I think Maxine Waters represents a serious portion of the Democratic base and the most passionate portion of the Democratic base and a part of the Democratic base that a lot of these politicians like Schumer and Pelosi eventually will have to bow to.
00:09:57.000So, for example, John Legend, who is, I think, more representative of the base in many ways than Nancy Pelosi, he tweeted out,
00:10:10.000In other words, do what we want or we're going to use tactics of intimidation.
00:10:13.000And John Legend is, of course, a very popular figure.
00:10:15.000Simone Sanders on CNN, she said yesterday that all these people who are talking about civility, including Nancy Pelosi, including people like Chuck Schumer, the only reason they're talking about civility is because civility is just another instance of white privilege.
00:10:28.000There is something to be said about that the folks calling for civility might need to check their privilege.
00:10:34.000And so, where is the civility in a press briefing room, Jake?
00:10:37.000Where is the civility at the border for these children?
00:10:39.000And so, this conversation about civility is completely one-sided and skewed.
00:10:54.000Why is that an element of white privilege?
00:10:55.000It seems to me that of all the people in the United States who shouldn't like mob action, black folks should be high on that list considering how mob action resulted in tremendous suffering for black people for literally a century and a half in this country.
00:11:10.000Like, the worst instances of mob action in this country's history have been actions that were taken in the Jim Crow South during the 1910s, 20s, and 30s.
00:11:20.000And yet, Simone Sanders says that to oppose that, to oppose mob action, is some sort of white privilege?
00:11:27.000Ashley Nicole, who, Ashley Nicole Black, she tweeted something out similarly, this is tweet 15, this is a writer, I believe for Jimmy Kimmel, and she tweeted, oh hello, I didn't see you there.
00:11:37.000Civility is a tool of white supremacy.
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00:14:02.000She's anti-Maxine, sitting around your kitchen table, telling you how you ought to go to a gas station and harass somebody until they leave.
00:14:09.000So I have my serious doubts that this genie can be put back in the bottle.
00:14:13.000And by the way, I'm not sure that the genie can be put back in the bottle from the right, because there are a lot of people on the right who are calling for civility today.
00:14:19.000A lot of people on the right who are suggesting that we need to be more civil to one another.
00:14:23.000And that is not the tenor of the Republican Party at this point.
00:14:27.000That is not the tenor of President Trump.
00:14:30.000Of a lot of the people who are big fans of President Trump.
00:14:32.000The thing they like best about President Trump is that he is uncivil.
00:14:34.000Again, because they think, I think rightly so, that Republicans have been punched so often that they need someone who's going to punch back.
00:14:40.000The problem is there's a difference between punching.
00:15:23.000And as you can hear behind me, Wolf, the crowd is very fired up.
00:15:26.000We have about a couple thousand people in this room so far.
00:15:29.000They are letting the press corps here know exactly how they feel about what we're doing here, Wolf.
00:15:34.000And it is certainly true that the press has been awful for President Trump.
00:15:38.000The press has been just garbage all the way across.
00:15:40.000I mean, I've covered it in detail, but I think it is possible to criticize the press strenuously without
00:15:47.000The country basically turning into two groups of people screaming at each other at the top of their lungs, standing five inches from each other's faces, spittle-flecking them.
00:15:54.000I just don't, I don't see how that makes the country a better place.
00:15:57.000Now, so I think that, you know, what we're seeing in South Carolina at that rally is quite the same thing as going into a restaurant and harassing someone until they leave.
00:16:03.000I don't think it's quite the same thing.
00:16:05.000But the temperature has been raised in the country to a point where I'm not sure the temperature can be, can be simmered down anytime in the near future.
00:16:13.000And again, I don't see either party attempting to really do so.
00:16:15.000So in just a second, I want to talk about President Trump's actual rally in South Carolina.
00:16:19.000And again, I think that President Trump is channeling something.
00:16:23.000I don't think that President Trump is the great driver of incivility in this country.
00:16:26.000What you're seeing today is a lot of people on the left, Pelosi, Maxine Waters, saying that Trump is the one who made politics uncivil.
00:16:32.000As I said before, I don't think that Trump made politics uncivil.
00:16:35.000I think politics has been uncivil since Cindy Sheehan was standing outside George W. Bush's ranch and screaming at him that he had murdered her son.
00:16:42.000I think politics has been uncivil for at least the last nearly 20 years.
00:16:46.000I think the politics has been really uncivil since maybe the mid-90s.
00:16:52.000Probably most likely after the 2000 election, it got really uncivil, I think.
00:16:56.000And then top-level politicians have channeled that anger.
00:16:59.000And instead of saying to people, the hardest thing in politics to say is, your anger is unjustified, or your anger is justified, but let's try to treat each other well.
00:17:08.000Those are two very difficult things to say in politics.
00:17:20.000So, for example, yes, and he's very funny, too.
00:17:22.000I mean, just on an objective level, the man's very funny.
00:17:24.000So yesterday at his rally, President Trump slammed Stephen Colbert and Jimmy Fallon and Jimmy Kimmel.
00:17:28.000Listen, I've slammed all three of them.
00:17:30.000I think all three of them have done a piss poor job at actually being funny as opposed to being political.
00:17:35.000But the president kind of rabble-rousing off their back.
00:17:37.000I'm not sure that this is what the president of the United States should be doing, per se, even if I enjoy it as a partisan.
00:17:43.000As a partisan, I may enjoy the fighting, but as an American, I think it would be better if we had more of a civil society being built as opposed to being torn down.
00:19:16.000I think that he is a response to the collapse of the civic discourse that had already been happening.
00:19:20.000Again, in 2012, Joe Biden was going around saying that Mitt Romney wanted to put black people back in chains, and the entire left was suggesting that Mitt Romney had given a woman cancer specifically so that he could make her husband lose her health insurance.
00:19:32.000So, incivility has been a part of our politics for a long time, but there's no question it's getting a lot worse.
00:19:37.000The left, I think, is leading the way, but the right's reactionary nature is driving a cycle of incivility.
00:19:43.000I think what we have right now is a cycle of incivility, and what it's going to take is one group saying, listen, I know you guys are being uncivil.
00:20:52.000Now, with all of that said, there are some people who are going too far in this direction, suggesting that incivility in politics from President Trump and the right, it means that Republicans should vote for Democrats.
00:21:01.000David Brooks is the latest to make this case.
00:21:13.000OK, so Will, you'll recall George Will, claimed that Republicans in Congress had abdicated their duty to check the executive branch and Democrats would do a better job, ignoring the Democrats would be stymied by a Republican minority and that the Democratic agenda has moved wildly to the left.
00:21:26.000Well, David Brooks argues that conservatism is being undermined by the Republicans and by President Trump.
00:21:32.000Well, he argues that conservatism is about protection of the order that pre-exists liberty.
00:21:35.000So, there's a great argument in conservatism over whether conservatism is really primarily about liberty or whether it is about the idea of order.
00:21:42.000So, to take it to a philosophical level, there's an argument between Locke and Burke.
00:21:47.000This is the argument that I think David Brooks wants to set up.
00:21:52.000suggested that human beings could be governed by reason, and that we had certain inherent inalienable rights, and these rights were life, liberty, and property, and the right to freedom of thought was one of those rights, and that if we all got together in civil society with a small government, that would be the best way to run things.
00:22:05.000And Edmund Burke said, listen, all this stuff about rationality is just fine and it's just great, but we have to understand that without civic institutions that inculcate virtue, liberty is bound to devolve into libertinism.
00:22:16.000You have a free society with no rules and people are bad people, then things are going to decay really, really quickly.
00:22:21.000So what you need is a social order that pre-exists liberty.
00:22:24.000Without the social order, there cannot be liberty.
00:22:26.000And so the argument seems to be sort of that conservatism is more about the social order than it is about liberty.
00:22:32.000At least that's what Brooks is arguing.
00:22:34.000So he argues that conservatism is about the protection of the order that pre-exists liberty, the maintenance of what he calls the sacred space,
00:22:40.000So Edmund Burke was a famous British jurist, not a judge, but he was a member of parliament, and he famously wrote against the French Revolution, suggesting the French Revolution had given up
00:23:27.000We are all defenders in the conservative movement of family, religion, local community, local culture, the arts, good literature, civilization, right?
00:23:34.000These are all things that we believe ought to be protected.
00:23:39.000He believes that the market is what has undermined all of this.
00:23:43.000So he argues that conservatives only value small government because they think that big government is going to violate family and violate the social order.
00:23:50.000But if big government didn't violate the social order, everything would be just dandy.
00:23:54.000So he says conservatives fought big government not because they hated the state per se, but because they loved the sacred space.
00:23:59.000The last attempts to build a conservatism around the sacred space were George W. Bush's compassionate conservatism and in Britain, David Cameron's big society conservatism.
00:24:08.000They both fizzled because over the last 30 years, the parties of the right drifted from conservatism.
00:24:12.000So he says the Republican Party is no longer a conservative party because it no longer cares about the social order.
00:24:17.000Instead, it only cares about market fundamentalism.
00:24:33.000It is not the idea that growth in and of itself is the great win.
00:24:37.000That's a utilitarian view of the market.
00:24:39.000Market fundamentalism is about the idea that markets in and of themselves are moral, which they are.
00:24:44.000If you get to own your own labor, then the market is moral, as opposed to government regulation of that market, which is generally immoral because it is a violation of your ownership of your labor and your time.
00:24:54.000But Brooks says, Again, I think this is a dramatic misreading of American conservatism.
00:24:58.000This is why Brooks' distinction between Locke and Burke is wrong, drawing a hardline break between Locke and Burke is foolish.
00:25:13.000Hey, George W. Bush's conservatism was flawed not because he cared about social institutions, but because he didn't care enough about market fundamentalism.
00:25:21.000The founders believed in the notion of individual liberty, but they also believed that individual liberty could only thrive when people were virtuous.
00:25:27.000So you actually needed social institutions to fill the gap left by government.
00:25:32.000So if you want to take care of each other, we're going to need churches, we're going to need groups where we get together.
00:25:36.000If you want to have kids who grow up healthy and strong and form families, you're going to need social institutions that help foster all of that.
00:25:42.000Liberty, and that's what allowed there to be liberty, right?
00:25:45.000Because if you create a bunch of good human beings, you can leave them free to do anything.
00:25:48.000Whereas if they're a bunch of bad human beings, you can barely leave them free to do anything.
00:25:52.000A liberty and order were originally seen in the American bargain as two sides of the same coin.
00:25:58.000And he says that free markets are inherently non-conservative, which is not true at all.
00:26:03.000And then he says that Americans swung to Trump because Trump was a substitute for market fundamentalism, which of course is not true either.
00:26:09.000Most conservatives voted for Trump because he wasn't Hillary Clinton.
00:26:12.000And while Brooks is correct that we've now substituted a certain level of tribal politics,
00:26:17.000He's certainly wrong that such tribal politics are a response to market breakdown.
00:26:21.000What has actually happened in the United States is not that the market has taken over everything.
00:26:25.000What's happened in the United States is that social institutions destroyed themselves because there was a forced attempt to destroy those social institutions in the name of libertinism.
00:27:04.000He says it's a radical individualism that leads to vicious tribalism.
00:27:07.000The threat comes from those two main currents of the National Republican Party.
00:27:10.000At his essence, Trump is an assault on the sacred order that conservatives hold dear, the habits and institutions that cultivate sympathy, honesty, faithfulness and friendship.
00:27:18.000So Trump is contributing to the breakdown of the social order.
00:27:20.000Therefore, Republicans should not vote or conservatives should not vote Republican because Trump is contributing to the breakdown of social order.
00:27:37.000Even if I agree that President Trump is helping contribute to a breakdown in the social fabric, which I think is arguably true, even if I think that is true, that does not mean I'm going to turn to the Democrats who have forcibly attempted to destroy the social fabric wholesale.
00:27:51.000To say that Democrats ought to win, people who have been anti-family, who have been anti-church, who spend all their days trying to come up with government legislation to destroy the social order, to say that's a better solution than voting for Republicans is simply insane.
00:28:03.000But Brooks says today you can be a conservative or a Republican, but you can't be both.
00:28:07.000And then he says that the places where he sees the future of the country are Burlington, Vermont, and Salt Lake City.
00:28:15.000Well, that's a pretty amazing thing to say, considering that Burlington, Vermont has a total population of 42,000 people, a median family income of $76,000, and an unemployment rate of 2%.
00:28:24.000Yeah, it's easy enough to say that's a nice place when it's a nice place.
00:28:28.000The real question is, what is going to reinstitute social fabric?
00:28:35.000But that doesn't mean that you sacrifice the social fabric to people who forcibly want to destroy it.
00:28:40.000I mean, look, I don't think Trump has been a force for good when it comes to the social fabric, but I think that Trump at least still likes the American flag.
00:28:46.000I think there are certain aspects of the social fabric Trump is still in favor of that Democrats simply are not.
00:28:51.000Free markets are not killing social institutions.
00:28:54.000Lack of social connections are killing social institutions.
00:28:57.000And again, the Democratic Party is a much greater threat to the social fabric at this point than the Republican Party, even as much as I hate watching the Republican Party threatening the social fabric at all.
00:29:13.000Plus, I want to talk about a New York Times op-ed that explains what I mean about the destruction of the social fabric and why David Brooks is wrong.
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00:30:01.000So here's why I think that David Brooks is so wrongheaded when he said, and George Will, when they say, vote for the Democrats to stop President Trump.
00:30:07.000First of all, I think Trump's agenda has largely been good.
00:30:09.000Not universally, but largely been good.
00:30:11.000And second of all, I think that trying to suggest that Trump is going to be more destructive to the social fabric than Democrats ignores exactly what the Democrats are doing right now.
00:30:20.000Hey, so on Monday, the New York Times ran an op-ed from a guy named Brian W. Van Norton, who is a professor of philosophy at Wuhan University, Yale-NUS College, and Vassar College, calling for deplatforming of all conservative dissenters.
00:30:33.000Because those opinions are bad, of course.
00:30:34.000So the same people that David Brooks are saying you should vote for, those people are saying we should deplatform anyone who disagrees with them.
00:30:40.000There's a reason that the left is so comfortable with David Brooks these days.
00:30:44.000So Norton, in this New York Times op-ed, he juxtaposes worthwhile opinions with non-worthwhile opinions.
00:30:51.000He says worthwhile opinions, quote, include historically informed argument from Ta-Nehisi Coates that structural racism makes the American dream possible.
00:30:59.000And the nuanced thoughts of Kate Mann, a professor of philosophy at Cornell University, about the role of empathy in supporting misogyny.
00:31:10.000Uninformed arguments, according to this professor at Yale, include arguments from Jordan Peterson taken wildly out of context.
00:31:16.000So Jordan Peterson should shut up, but we should hear from Ta-Nehisi Coates, who said about 9-11 that he watched the planes hit the buildings and felt nothing because he was smoking pot on the rooftop.
00:31:24.000And we should definitely listen to the arguments of Kate Mann, who non-ironically uses the word empathy.
00:31:29.000If you do not ironically use the word empathy, I think that pretty much suggests that we should not listen to you on pretty much anything.
00:31:34.000But according to this professor, we should ensure that people like Jordan Peterson or Ann Coulter, they should not be able to speak publicly.
00:31:43.000He says, We may feel certain that Coulter and Peterson are wrong, but some people feel the same way about Coates and Mann.
00:31:48.000And everyone once felt certain that the Earth was the center of the solar system.
00:31:51.000If this specious line of thought seems at all plausible to you, it is because of the influence of On Liberty, published in 1859 by the English philosopher John Stuart Mill.
00:31:59.000Mill's argument for near-absolute freedom of speech is seductively simple.
00:32:02.000Well, his argument for near-absolute freedom of speech is simple because it's correct.
00:32:06.000Basically, he says, if it's a true opinion, it should get a hearing.
00:32:08.000If it's a bad opinion, then we should suss it out.
00:32:10.000We should actually treat with it and figure out why it's a bad opinion.
00:32:50.000It is like saying that because Christianity and Islam disagree about the nature of God, there is no God.
00:32:54.000And throwing out rationality because Descartes and Mill disagree is just like that.
00:32:59.000You can't throw out rationality just because two people disagree.
00:33:02.000And indeed, it turns out that Norton doesn't think that rationality is wrong at all.
00:33:05.000He thinks that he is the only rational person, so he should do all your thinking for you.
00:33:09.000He says, the problem is that humans are not rational in the way Mill assumes.
00:33:12.000Well, first of all, I think that Mike Pence probably does agree with that.
00:33:14.000I think that if Mike Pence owned a restaurant, he would have gay people at his restaurant.
00:33:35.000Right, there are some people who act with less rationality than others.
00:33:38.000This is not an argument against rationality, and it's certainly not an argument in favor of shutting down the political process, because once you're arguing against rationality, folks, once you're arguing that the individuals in the United States are incapable of discerning true from false, that they are incapable of understanding decent argumentation, there is no purpose to a republic at that point.
00:33:56.000At that point, you may as well just have an aristocracy run by professors from Yale who get to decide what you see and hear.
00:34:02.000And indeed, that's what this professor then argues.
00:34:05.000He argues that free speech has become the tyranny of the majority.
00:34:09.000And instead of John Stuart Mill, he quotes German-American philosopher Herbert Marcuse.
00:34:13.000Marcuse is one of the most evil philosophers of the latter half of the 20th century.
00:34:16.000He's the guy who originally coined the term make love, not war.
00:34:19.000He's also the guy who suggested a theory of what he called repressive tolerance, Marcuse.
00:34:23.000Marcuse's theory of repressive tolerance was that if we are tolerant of everybody's viewpoint, then in fact, we are strengthening bad viewpoints, so we should simply suppress viewpoints that are of the right.
00:34:33.000He openly said this, Marcuse, and now he's being quoted in the pages of the New York Times by this professor as a counter to the argument that liberty is good.
00:34:46.000He says he'd like to hear more from Noam Chomsky.
00:35:05.000The political simpleton who has sided with every repressive dictatorship of the latter half of the 20th century.
00:35:11.000He says that we should hear more from Noam Chomsky.
00:35:13.000Now, do these sound like the kinds of people that you want to trust with the social fabric?
00:35:17.000This is the kinds of people who say that Herbert Marquez was right about free speech, but John Stuart Mill was wrong.
00:35:22.000These are the kind of folks you want to trust.
00:35:24.000That's why in all the talk about civility, which I think is beneficial and we should return to a certain level of civility, we should try to have polite conversations with one another.
00:35:32.000We shouldn't lose the distinction between left and right in the battle over civility.
00:35:37.000Civility should apply to left and right, but right ideas are better than left ideas.
00:35:41.000Because left ideas, when it comes to civility, there's nothing more uncivil than taking the government and forcing your point of view down somebody's throat with the point of the gun.
00:35:48.000Okay, meanwhile, President Trump is going after Harley Davidson.
00:35:51.000You know, I've been saying since before Trump was actually inaugurated that President Trump's government interventionism when it came to the economy would eventually rear its ugly head, and it was bad.
00:36:02.000I'm sure I'll get a lot of flack for saying it again, but tough.
00:36:04.000On Tuesday, President Trump was obviously stung by reports that Harley-Davidson, the iconic motorcycle company, would be moving some jobs overseas in response to President Trump's tariffs on aluminum and steel, which have raised the cost of input in Harley-Davidson motorcycles, as well as in response to new European Union tariffs that were placed as a reaction to President Trump's tariffs.
00:36:25.000So President Trump took to Twitter and started savaging the company.
00:36:30.000Okay, they announced that they would move some of their plant operations in Kansas City to Thailand, having nothing to do with tariffs, but that's not the same thing as what they're saying now.
00:36:38.000Now they're saying they're moving jobs into Europe.
00:36:52.000He says it's a completely different thing.
00:36:54.000And then he says, So now he's talking about taxing Harley Davidson out of existence because of his own stupid trade policy.
00:37:31.000OK, to target a company because they are making an economically feasible decision in response to government interventionism, to target them and suggest that they surrendered and they quit and the aura is gone and that you're going to tax the hell out of them?
00:37:44.000It was obnoxious when Obama did it, too, by the way.
00:37:47.000This is the second time in two days that Trump has attacked Harley-Davidson.
00:37:49.000Yesterday, he said that he was surprised that Harley-Davidson, of all companies, would be the first to wave the white flag.
00:37:54.000He said, Well, no, Harley-Davidson is moving because tariffs are bad for a lot of companies in the United States.
00:37:57.000They're a net job loser, and they impact lots of companies.
00:38:12.000But what Trump is talking about, this is why Trump at heart is not a free market guy.
00:38:17.000Again, he's cut regulations, he's given us tax cuts.
00:38:20.000I'm very grateful to President Trump for a lot of his policies, but he's not a free market guy when it comes to trade, and it's very obvious from these tweets.
00:38:27.000Okay, this sort of language precisely mirrors the sort of language that Barack Obama used when he was slamming companies for taking economically feasible action in response to Obamacare.
00:38:36.000So you remember in the aftermath of Obamacare being passed, a bunch of companies said they were going to have to drop man-hours so they didn't have to pay for the full-time healthcare of all their employees, or they were going to have to cut jobs.
00:38:46.000And Barack Obama responded by ripping into specific companies, including Staples.
00:39:19.000Because Staples was responding in perfect market fashion to a terrible economic disincentive, Obamacare.
00:39:25.000And I said at the time, it's just like Democrats, it is just like government interventionists to create garbage government policy, and then companies respond to that garbage government policy, and then they say, well, if only you were a little more patriotic, then you wouldn't respond to our policy this way.
00:39:37.000It's like when Joe Biden said back in 2012 that companies that are big, they should be patriotic and pay more taxes.
00:39:43.000I don't gauge my patriotism by paying a higher tax rate.
00:39:46.000I'm paying a hell of a lot more in taxes than I paid even five years ago.
00:39:49.000I'm not more patriotic now than I was five years ago, just because I'm paying a lot more taxes.
00:39:53.000I'm just getting screwed by the government harder.
00:39:56.000So this idea that Trump is putting forth that Harley Davidson is being unpatriotic or un-American by responding to his bad policy is stupid and counterproductive.
00:40:08.000Government interventionism has unintended side effects and that is not the fault of the companies that are responding to those unintended side effects by attempting to save jobs and save their company.
00:40:19.000Alright, time for a couple of things I like and then a couple of things that I hate.
00:40:35.000The regime would be on its last legs if it were not for the Obama administration signing billions of dollars over to the Iranian mullahs and their evil, evil government.
00:41:02.000I mean, that's unbelievable, because all we've been told forever is that the Muslim street hates Israel, that Muslims across the world despise Israel, that they don't want to make peace with Israel, and that if it weren't for Israel, everything would be hunky-dory.
00:41:24.000That money shouldn't be spent on terrorism.
00:41:26.000So when they're chanting death to Palestine, what they are really chanting is death to the regime that is giving money to terrorists all over the world in order to kill Jews.
00:41:36.000And thank God we have an administration now that actually wants to foment this sort of uprising.
00:41:41.000Because that's what it's going to take.
00:41:43.000It's going to take, actually, an uprising in Iran.
00:41:44.000What it really is going to take, realistically speaking, is somebody inside the Iranian military who agrees with a lot of the protesters and launches some sort of coup.
00:41:51.000Because if not, then the mullahs will just mow these people down in the streets, unfortunately.
00:42:10.000This is according to CBS Local, Sacramento.
00:42:12.000Senate Bill 1424 would require the California Attorney General to create an advisory committee by April 1, 2019.
00:42:18.000It would need to consist of at least one person from the DOJ, representative from social media providers, civil liberties advocates, and First Amendment scholars.
00:42:27.000The advisory group would be required by the California state government
00:42:30.000To study how false information is spread online and to come up with a plan for social media platforms to fix the problem.
00:42:36.000The left is fully convinced that the reason they've been losing elections is because of fake news.
00:42:39.000It can't just be that people think their arguments are garbage.
00:42:43.000It has to be that people are being deceived.
00:42:44.000And thus, we need to regulate speech in just the way that this New York Times op-ed writing Yale professor was saying that we need to regulate speech.
00:42:51.000The state of California wants to regulate speech too.
00:42:53.000State of California has already moved in this direction with their educational policy.
00:42:56.000They're attempting to move in this direction with their non-discrimination policy, suggesting that if people like me say in the state of California that a man is a man and a woman is a woman, that we ought to be fined.
00:43:05.000Now they're cracking down even harder.
00:43:07.000They want to have the government determine what is fake news or not.
00:43:10.000It's hard to think of anything more Orwellian than the government determining what sort of news ought to be covered.
00:43:23.000The Electronic Frontier Foundation, which is a left-wing group, opposed the bill, calling it flawed and misguided.
00:43:28.000The group argued the measure would make the government and advisory group responsible for deciding what is true and what is false.
00:43:34.000And it points out the First Amendment prevents content-based restrictions, even if statements are admittedly false.
00:43:41.000So, it's just another indicator that when it comes to gaining political power, the left has no compunction about using governmental censorship in order to achieve their ends.
00:43:51.000That's why, as much as I dislike the incivility that is evident in our politics right now, I'm not going to pretend that left and right are exactly the same across the spectrum in the way that George Will and David Brooks seem to want to right now.
00:44:01.000Okay, we'll be back here tomorrow with all the latest updates.