The Ben Shapiro Show - August 03, 2026


The Slow-Motion Collapse of Women's Sports


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10 minutes

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00:00:00.000 I'm not against the WNBA because I'm anti-female or something.
00:00:04.000 I'm anti-WNBA because I think that women should not have to play against the men.
00:00:08.000 It's the Women's National Basketball Association, not the NBA.
00:00:13.000 Over the weekend, the WNBA botched multiple attempts to come out on the side of common sense, including allowing Sophie Cunningham to get elbowed in the face and the Indiana Fever coach saying she's not sure what a woman is according to the science, which I guess means we can put her on the Supreme Court.
00:00:25.000 By the way, the WNBA is literally the last stand on this issue.
00:00:28.000 The International Olympic Committee already came out and said men can't compete against women.
00:00:31.000 The NCAA has phased in sport by sport biological policies.
00:00:35.000 World Athletics has come out and said women have to play against women.
00:00:37.000 World Aquatics, the global governing for cycle, World Boxing, like all of them came out and said, hey, no men with the ladies.
00:00:43.000 The WNBA is like, nope, nope, we need Shaq in here.
00:00:46.000 The WNBA, like, they can't get over themselves.
00:00:49.000 It is incredible.
00:00:50.000 Somehow Sophie Cunningham has become the face of all controversy in the WNBA because Sophie Cunningham said the absolutely inarguable truth that women are not men.
00:01:00.000 And the WNBA is very upset about this.
00:01:03.000 So, members of the WNBA hierarchy and a player named Aliyah Boston were asked by an outkick reporter, Clay Travis's outfit, about Sophie Cunningham.
00:01:16.000 And they literally got up and ran away.
00:01:18.000 I would say like little girls, but these are big girls.
00:01:20.000 I mean, these are ladies.
00:01:21.000 So, here we go.
00:01:24.000 I think there's always going to be outside noise.
00:01:26.000 But I think we've been professionals long enough to know that if you let that affect you, then you're not really here for the right things.
00:01:31.000 And so for us, we just keep the main thing the main thing.
00:01:33.000 And that's whoops.
00:01:34.000 Hey, speaking of that outside noise.
00:01:35.000 Sophie, your teammate.
00:01:36.000 Oh, thank you.
00:01:36.000 Sophie came out with a.
00:01:37.000 Have a good day.
00:01:41.000 Bye.
00:01:41.000 Oh, run away.
00:01:43.000 Run away.
00:01:44.000 Can't talk about it.
00:01:45.000 Can't talk about whether the boys should play with the ladies.
00:01:48.000 Again, this is just ridiculous.
00:01:50.000 It's just ridiculous.
00:01:51.000 The entire premise of the WNBA is that it exists as a separate league because if men were allowed to play, they would dominate the ladies.
00:01:56.000 This is not controversial in any way.
00:01:58.000 And this is not me being anti female in any way.
00:02:01.000 There are many things in which women are better than men.
00:02:03.000 Many, many, many things.
00:02:05.000 Basketball is not one of those things.
00:02:07.000 This is perfectly obvious on its face.
00:02:09.000 Men are built stronger, they are built bigger, and they are built faster on average and at the extremes.
00:02:16.000 That's just the way it is.
00:02:18.000 Any D3 bench player would destroy the ladies.
00:02:24.000 That is not a rip on the ladies.
00:02:25.000 They're very, very good basketball players for ladies.
00:02:29.000 Why this is even remotely controversial is beyond me.
00:02:31.000 Why in the world?
00:02:32.000 The WNBA, listen, the WNBA again, because.
00:02:35.000 It does raise a similar question as to why the left sided with radical Islam.
00:02:39.000 Why did the LGB decide to side with the T?
00:02:41.000 The T totally eviscerates the LGB, right?
00:02:43.000 LGB, lesbian, gay, bisexual, is premised on the idea that there is a difference between the sexes.
00:02:49.000 Transgenderism is predicated on the idea that there is no difference between the sexes.
00:02:54.000 If you are a man and you say, I prefer men, and the word man has no meaning, then presumably you should marry a lady because a lady could be a man and then you could have natural born children.
00:03:03.000 The entire LGB requires there to be a divide with the T.
00:03:06.000 So why did they make common cause with the T?
00:03:08.000 Because the idea was.
00:03:10.000 All of us hate the values based system that promotes heterosexuality, and therefore we need to join to oppose it.
00:03:16.000 And so now you end up with this very awkward situation in which the WNBA has to argue that somehow dudes should be in it.
00:03:23.000 So the Minnesota Lynx coach, a person named Cheryl Reeve, wore a trans kids belong t shirt.
00:03:28.000 I love how their backup move is to somehow blame the kids as though there are tons and tons of trans kids.
00:03:34.000 There's no such thing as a trans kid.
00:03:36.000 It's not a real thing.
00:03:38.000 You make a case that there are kids who have gender dysphoria, but the idea of like a vast swath of five year olds.
00:03:45.000 Who are actually just trans, their boys and girls' bodies, is biologically inept.
00:03:49.000 And as you can see, it is a massive social contagion because it is relegated predominantly to blue areas and liberal parents.
00:03:56.000 But here is the Minnesota Lynx coach, Cheryl Reeve, near Sophie Cunningham and wearing that shirt, the Trans Kids Belong t shirt.
00:04:03.000 My goodness.
00:04:12.000 Okay, so the Indiana Fever coach was asked about Sophie Cunningham's speeches about all this.
00:04:24.000 And the Indiana Fever coach, somehow, unlike My three year old son has no idea from a scientific standpoint whether boys are girls or girls are boys.
00:04:35.000 Again, the full frontal lobotomy that our society decided to perform on itself is truly crazy.
00:04:39.000 It's truly wild.
00:04:41.000 So here's the Indiana Fever coach, who again only has a job in a league called the WNBA because there is a category called women, says she is not educated enough from a scientific standpoint on whether men should be able to play in women's sports.
00:04:54.000 Again, oh my gosh.
00:04:57.000 If I were slightly better at basketball, slightly, because you don't have to be very good as a man to play.
00:04:57.000 Oh my gosh.
00:05:03.000 If I were slightly better, I would try out for the Seattle Storm today.
00:05:03.000 In these leagues.
00:05:09.000 Because again, like apparently anyone can be a chick at any time.
00:05:13.000 This is the stupidest crap you've ever heard.
00:05:16.000 It is so insanely dumb.
00:05:21.000 What is your stance on men or athletes who test as biological male participating in women's sports?
00:05:27.000 What's your personal stance?
00:05:28.000 Yeah, I mean, I don't know that I would say that I'm educated enough from a scientific standpoint.
00:05:34.000 I don't ever believe that exclusion is an answer.
00:05:37.000 I just don't.
00:05:38.000 I do think, you know, when we think about various levels of sport, various governing bodies of sport, and things that go into that, like I said, I'm not educated enough at the different levels.
00:05:51.000 I know growing up, I played with the boys all the time.
00:05:53.000 There weren't girl sports.
00:05:54.000 Would you welcome a biological male in WNBA?
00:05:59.000 Again, it's like, I don't know when we talk about biological male and scientifically where we are, I think it's a totally different scenario.
00:06:07.000 You know, as I said, I'm not educated enough in terms of transgender and transitioning to give you a smart answer.
00:06:19.000 Oh, my goodness.
00:06:20.000 By the way, the WNBA doesn't have, there are no rules on this at the WNBA level.
00:06:23.000 None.
00:06:24.000 Zero.
00:06:25.000 So, calling all frustrated 45 year old tubby men who once played some varsity high school basketball.
00:06:32.000 Now's your moment.
00:06:33.000 It's your moment to shine.
00:06:36.000 Well, this is all coming for Sophie Cunningham because, again, As we've seen, Kaitlyn Clark is basically having the crap kicked out of her every game now because she is beloved and white.
00:06:46.000 And so that is apparently a thing that cannot be allowed to happen.
00:06:50.000 Sophie Cunningham is not only, you know, well liked and white and pretty, she also happens to have said a thing that you're not allowed to say, which means that now if Sophie Cunningham gets elbowed directly in the face,
00:07:03.000 that's called a foul by Sophie Cunningham.
00:07:08.000 Which, like, okay.
00:07:10.000 Here is a.
00:07:11.000 I have to say, this is not a recommendation of WNBA's refereeing quality here.
00:07:14.000 It's a defensive back.
00:07:25.000 Oh, you didn't realize they called that on Sophie Cunningham.
00:07:27.000 No!
00:07:27.000 Okay, so I think it should be an offensive foul.
00:07:30.000 I don't think it should be a defensive foul.
00:07:37.000 Wow, I can't believe that her face attacked that lady's elbow like that.
00:07:40.000 That's terrible.
00:07:42.000 Look at that horrible defensive foul in which she used her head to smack that other lady's elbow.
00:07:49.000 What in the actual hell?
00:07:51.000 That's some quality refereeing right there.
00:07:52.000 Strong, strong stuff right there.
00:07:55.000 Believe it or not, none of that was actually the worst thing that happened at a women's professional sporting event.
00:08:00.000 In the last 24 hours, I feel a little bad about playing this.
00:08:03.000 I mean, it is hilarious, but I feel bad.
00:08:03.000 I'll be honest.
00:08:06.000 And I don't feel bad enough that I didn't play it four times for my kids yesterday.
00:08:11.000 But Martha Reeves, who is the lead singer of the Motown group, Martha and Vandellas, and you know her song, like Dancing in the Street is one of her songs, right?
00:08:20.000 Heatwave, another one of her songs.
00:08:21.000 So back in 1965, when she could quasi sing because she was 22 or 23 or something, well, she's still performing.
00:08:28.000 And this is one of those, like Shaq with the Celtics.
00:08:33.000 Like, should have hung this up a while ago.
00:08:35.000 This is not good.
00:08:36.000 You have overstayed your vocal welcome.
00:08:37.000 I feel bad for her a little bit here by playing this, but I also don't want to deprive you of the enjoyment of the crowd reactions to this singing of the national anthem at the first women's professional baseball game.
00:08:50.000 It was, I mean, this is like Fergie with the national anthem, but significantly worse.
00:08:56.000 Prepare yourself, prepare your ears, and turn down your volume just a little bit.
00:09:03.000 Oh, say, can you see by the unsearchable light what so proudly we hail?
00:09:16.000 Look at the referee, look at the umpire in the background.
00:09:22.000 She's not even.
00:09:28.000 I love that she's in a completely different key from the other singers, or like the backup singers.
00:09:32.000 Look at the people in the crowd who are like.
00:09:33.000 Trying to figure out what the hell's happening.
00:09:36.000 Trying not to laugh.
00:09:37.000 Oh,
00:09:40.000 good
00:09:43.000 lord.
00:09:44.000 Oh, she's gonna go for it.
00:09:53.000 Look at this lady.
00:09:58.000 She's trying to hold it.
00:10:00.000 Don't break.
00:10:01.000 Don't break.
00:10:02.000 The
00:10:06.000 big finish is the best part
00:10:09.000 of this.
00:10:10.000 This is my new ringtone.
00:10:19.000 At least she was into it, you know, confidence.
00:10:22.000 The crowd loved it.
00:10:24.000 Wow.
00:10:25.000 The first base coach there was like, I don't even
00:10:30.000 know.
00:10:32.000 You got to enjoy life because otherwise, what are you there for?
00:10:35.000 The reason I feel bad is because she's 85.
00:10:38.000 It's not really her fault.
00:10:40.000 Nobody decided to listen to a tape of her before booking her.
00:10:44.000 Oh, that might have been a mistake.
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