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00:00:00.000We explore the Supreme Court's big decision rewriting the Civil Rights Act of 1964 to endanger religious liberty, police continue to come under fire for doing their jobs, and Bill de Blasio will let anyone go in public except for the Jews.
00:00:50.000I'll take the Jewish community as an example.
00:00:52.000So I'll take my Orthodox community, get very parochial.
00:00:54.000So there are a couple of different ways to view unity inside Orthodoxy.
00:00:58.000So you could say, if you keep the Sabbath and you keep kosher, Then you should all be able to go over to each other's house, and you should all be able to go to the same shuls, and you should all be able to marry each other's kids, and all of that sort of stuff.
00:01:07.000Because as long as you're keeping the bare minimum of rules, you're all part of the same community.
00:01:11.000Well, in a body politic, you can have the same thing, right?
00:01:13.000You could have a view of the federal government that says, all the federal government is here to do are very basic things.
00:01:49.000And you have to keep every single aspect of them.
00:01:50.000And there's a lot of signaling as to whether you're part of the in group or whether you're part of the out group.
00:01:55.000There are a lot of kind of subsets of the orthodox community where you have to wear a certain type of hat.
00:01:59.000You wear a black hat or you wear a strimal.
00:02:01.000Or you keep kosher in a certain way, right?
00:02:03.000You keep a particular brand of kosher meat, but not a different type of brand of kosher meat.
00:02:08.000You go to a specific type of synagogue, or you send your kids to a specific type of school.
00:02:11.000And if you don't send your kids to that type of school, then your kids can't marry your friend's kids, right?
00:02:16.000That is a way of achieving a very discreet unity within a subset of people.
00:02:21.000But it is very hard to broaden that out.
00:02:23.000And the reason it's hard to broaden that out is because most people aren't going to keep those rules.
00:02:26.000So take that back to the level of American government, right?
00:02:29.000American government could create unity by having a very, very heavy set of onerous rules that we all have to keep.
00:02:35.000And the culture could have a set of onerous rules that we all have to keep.
00:02:38.000And in order for you to be part of the in-group, part of the unified body of the United States, instead of agreeing on a few broad principles and then you're allowed to do whatever you want, instead of that, It is, you must agree to every single checklist item on this list, and you must be hemmed in by this huge thicket of rules.
00:02:55.000And if you do all of those things, then you can be part of the country.
00:02:57.000If you do all of those things, then you can be part of the in-group, as opposed to the out-group, the people who won't keep any of those rules.
00:03:04.000The founders saw the better vision for unity of a country in the first set of rules.
00:03:08.000And the reason that they felt that way is because they felt like, okay, you can actually have sort of the best of both worlds.
00:03:13.000You could have discrete communities inside the United States that are locally governed, right?
00:03:18.000This is the idea of subsidiarity, the idea of federalism.
00:03:22.000We're going to have local communities where the local community has a lot more homogeneity, a lot more agreement on what exactly the policies should be, right?
00:03:28.000So, for example, you're going to set up a local public school instead of having the federal government set up your public school for you 3,000 miles away.
00:03:34.000Instead, you and your friends get together and you decide how much you wish to be taxed and which teachers you decide to hire and how your kids ought to be taught.
00:03:40.000And that's really not the business of the federal government.
00:03:42.000And then there's the state government, and that has a little bit less homogeneity, and that means that it has less power to deal with you.
00:03:48.000And then you get to the federal government, and it has very little power to deal with you unless you are violating a specific subset of rules, right?
00:03:54.000And those subsets of rules would be you're violating somebody else's negative rights.
00:03:58.000So to get a little more specific about the philosophy of the federal government versus the state governments or local government in the U.S.
00:04:03.000Constitution, the founders believed in something called negative liberty.
00:04:07.000Negative liberty is what philosophers have termed the idea that you are protected from things.
00:04:11.000You are not given the right to things.
00:04:12.000You are protected from people violating your rights.
00:04:14.000So negative liberty would be that you have a right to your property.
00:04:19.000Because nobody has the right to invade your property and take it.
00:04:21.000You have a right to your life because nobody has a right to invade your life and take it.
00:04:26.000Life, liberty, and property, these were the propositions that the federal government was set up to protect.
00:04:30.000And if any of those things are infringed upon by anybody else, then the federal government has the ability to step in, if we're talking in broad philosophical terms.
00:04:37.000But the federal government does not have the right to invade any of your rights to life, liberty, or property on behalf of some sort of greater good.
00:04:44.000The federal government doesn't really have the right to suggest that you ought to use your property in a particular way that the federal government kind of likes.
00:04:51.000The federal government does not get to set a set of cultural standards upon you In order to achieve so-called positive rights.
00:04:57.000So an example of a positive right, for purposes of the conversation we're about to have, would be a positive right is you have a right to employment.
00:05:04.000You don't have a right to employment in negative rights.
00:05:06.000Negative rights, I have the right to handle my business how I want.
00:05:09.000I can hire who I want, I can fire who I want.
00:05:11.000A positive right would be you have a right to be employed by me.
00:05:15.000And I don't have the ability to discriminate against you.
00:05:18.000Now that sounds great in theory, but the problem is that if you're running a business or you're running a property or any of that stuff, Right?
00:05:24.000Now, I may not like how you use your stuff.
00:05:26.000In fact, I think there are lots of people who run their businesses poorly and make bad decisions morally.
00:05:30.000But one of the things you have to acknowledge about other people's rights is that they may use those rights in ways you don't like.
00:05:36.000And you may say, well, unity would be better achieved if we had a rule that you're not allowed to use your rights that way.
00:05:40.000The problem is once you give the government the power to invade people's rights on behalf of the so-called greater good, more and more often the federal government, and this has been true in the United States broadly speaking, more and more the federal government is going to restrict what everyone can do with their rights in favor of a quote-unquote broader good that is more and more a bare majority proposition.
00:05:59.000So normally, in terms of the federal government, you have to have widespread acceptance of a proposition in order for federal legislation to pass.
00:06:06.000This is why the Founding Fathers set up, as Federalist 51 points out, probably written by James Madison, maybe Alexander Hamilton, they say that one of the goals of the government is to restrict itself.
00:06:16.000You set up checks and balances so that human beings can't seize ultimate power and then 51% can cram down their perspective on 49%.
00:06:23.000This is why gridlock is built into the system.
00:06:26.000But more and more these days, we don't like the gridlock.
00:06:28.000And so instead, what we look for is an ability to take our 50% plus one person and cram down on the other 49.99999% of society exactly what we want.
00:07:11.000Okay, but if you say that now I get to come into your religious school and I get to tell you that every person you hire at your religious school Has to retain their hiring, no matter how often they violate the precepts of your religious school, now you've run up against my negative liberty.
00:07:24.000And so you haven't created unity, you've actually created disunity.
00:07:27.000Because before, you know, you may not like how I run my school, but you didn't have the right to invade it.
00:07:31.000And if you want to set up a separate school, you are totally fine to do that.
00:07:45.000People instead seem to embrace the idea that true unity lies in cramming down my point of view on everybody else.
00:07:51.000True unity lies in me grabbing the government gun and pointing it at everybody who disagrees with me.
00:07:56.000And maybe I'm doing it for the best of reasons.
00:07:58.000And maybe I'm doing it because I'm kind and generous.
00:08:00.000But maybe my definition of kindness and generosity and decency is actually not an objective definition of kindness, generosity, and decency.
00:08:08.000Which is why the Founding Fathers said, well, we don't want anybody to have that kind of power.
00:08:12.000This brings us to the Supreme Court decision-making apparatus itself.
00:08:15.000So we're going to get into the institution of the Supreme Court, why the Supreme Court should not have the kind of power in American life that it does, and then we'll get to the actual decision that they laid down yesterday on LGBT hiring and firing.
00:08:26.000And again, I'm coming from the perspective that I generally don't think that gays and lesbians should be fired for being gay or lesbian.
00:08:33.000I would hire a transgender person in my business.
00:08:38.000You can do the job, you can do the job.
00:08:39.000But I also recognize that the government does not have the fundamental right to invade other people's property rights on behalf of a principle that I think about and how somebody should run their business.
00:08:48.000And I've been perfectly consistent on this, right?
00:08:52.000I think that freedom of association dictates that you should be able to do with your business what you want, even if you run your business in a fashion that I consider to be wrong and evil.
00:09:01.000Just as I think that free speech protects a lot of speech that I think is wrong and evil.
00:09:05.000A right means that people have a right to abuse that right.
00:09:09.000They have a right to use the right in ways that I don't like, so long as they are not infringing on anybody else's rights, infringing on somebody else's liberty, and you do not have a right to a job, no matter who you are.
00:09:18.000You don't have a right to my property, no matter who you are.
00:09:20.000And I don't have a right to your property, no matter who I am.
00:09:23.000Okay, that libertarian vision was a more true to the founding father's vision.
00:09:27.000We've abandoned that because it turns out that the American people can't live with the gridlock.
00:09:31.000It turns out that the American people, they're not comfortable with the idea that we need a broad consensus in America anymore to get things done.
00:09:37.000Instead, the idea is that we are going to have other bodies.
00:09:40.000The gridlock in Congress has led the executive branch and the judicial branch to basically seize power and then use their power to cram down 51% propositions on the other 49% of the population.
00:10:10.000A lot of people stay, but a lot of people leave.
00:10:12.000And that's what we're talking about here.
00:10:13.000Okay, we're gonna get to more of this in just one second with an eye toward the Supreme Court decision-making process and toward the cultural war that we are now engaged in.
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00:11:26.000Okay, so the vision of American Liberty has come down to basically a group of people who think that we ought to use The force of the federal government, full weight and force of the federal government to cram down restrictions on other people's liberty in the name of the greater good.
00:11:40.000And there are people on the right who say this too, right?
00:11:42.000And there are people on the left and the right who have basically abandoned the original founding notions of liberty.
00:11:47.000That as long as I'm not invading your rights, I get to do what I want.
00:11:50.000Instead, they want to promote the greater good using the power of government.
00:11:54.000And then when it turns out that the legislature is chock full of people who disagree with each other and they can't get it done through those means, the Supreme Court seizes power.
00:12:00.000And the Supreme Court says, well, we're going to make up your minds for you.
00:12:03.000So perfect example of this is the big case from yesterday, which is this case on LGBT hiring and firing.
00:12:16.000Everybody knows the Civil Rights Act of 1964 did not cover sexual orientation or transgenderism.
00:12:20.000This is perfectly obvious to everyone.
00:12:21.000It is perfectly obvious to every single human being, including all of the justices who voted in favor of this proposition, that the Civil Rights Act of 1964 should be revised to include all of these provisions.
00:12:31.000Justice Gorsuch acknowledges them much.
00:12:33.000He says it is perfectly obvious that nobody in 1964 was thinking about homosexuality when they talked about sex discrimination, and nobody was thinking about transgenderism when they were thinking about sex discrimination.
00:12:43.000He instead makes the argument that if you discriminate against someone based on their homosexual activity, then you're discriminating against them inherently on the basis of their sex.
00:12:53.000Because if a woman loves a man, you won't fire her.
00:12:56.000But if a man loves a man, you will fire her.
00:12:57.000That's discrimination on the basis of sex.
00:13:32.000It is also logically unsupportable that discrimination based on sex covers gender identity.
00:13:38.000Because gender identity, as the court acknowledges, is distinct from sex.
00:13:41.000So once you acknowledge that gender identity is distinct from sex in the leftist parlance, then it can't be discrimination based on sex anymore.
00:15:08.000Then, if you don't like the legislation, you pass another piece of legislation.
00:15:11.000You don't go to the Supreme Court and then have the Supreme Court dramatically rewrite the proposition and just say, OK, well, you know what?
00:15:17.000It turns out that what they meant in 1964, we don't like it, so we've decided to rewrite it in 2020 language.
00:15:52.000But what happened is that the judiciary stepped in and they decided they were going to set a top-down rule on all of America instead of just sort of allowing the marketplace of ideas to take place.
00:16:01.000And if you don't like how somebody's running their business, start another business.
00:16:03.000And if you don't like how somebody's acting, don't interact with them.
00:16:07.000Instead, the federal government, the judiciary, has decided to step in.
00:16:11.000And that's actually dangerous, as we'll talk about in a second, with regard to religious liberty.
00:16:15.000Because now you're talking about treading on people's fundamental religious liberty rights in order to promote a quote-unquote greater good.
00:16:20.000And that carries some pretty inherent dangers.
00:16:22.000We're gonna get to that in just one moment.
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00:17:35.000Okay, so the Supreme Court steps in and they declare just right off the bat that transgenderism and sexual orientation, despite the fact that they are obviously distinct, I mean, Gorsuch says this, despite the fact that they are distinct from sex, which is obviously true.
00:17:51.000You can be a man who is gay, you can be a man who is straight.
00:17:54.000The fact that you are a man is not indicative of whether you are gay or straight, right?
00:18:09.000That does not mean that this is covered by the Civil Rights Act.
00:18:11.000And there is an inherent danger in the Supreme Court simply declaring itself, as it always does, a super legislature, and then deciding what rules Americans should live by, especially when the rules are unclear.
00:18:21.000So that's particularly true when you come to religious liberty.
00:18:23.000So Justice Samuel Alito points this out.
00:18:26.000He says, briefs filed by a wide range of religious groups, Christian, Jewish, Muslim, express deep concern that the position now adopted by the court will trigger open conflict with faith-based employment practices of numerous churches, synagogues, mosques, and other religious institutions.
00:18:39.000They argue that religious organizations need employees who actually live the faith and that compelling a religious organization to employ individuals whose conduct flouts the tenets of the organization's faith forces the group to communicate an objectionable message, which is obviously true.
00:18:52.000If you're running a Catholic day school and you have a secular science teacher and the secular science teacher is Bob, and the next day he comes in and says, I'm Janine, that may conflict with your Catholic faith that you are attempting to promote to your kids.
00:19:05.000Also, it conflicts with objective reality, but put that aside.
00:19:07.000It may conflict with your faith that male and female, he created them, right?
00:19:13.000This is why people are paying to go there.
00:19:15.000This problem, says Samuel Alito, is perhaps most acute when it comes to employment of teachers.
00:19:19.000A school's standards for its faculty communicate a particular way of life to its students, and a violation by the faculty of those precepts may undermine the school's moral teaching.
00:19:26.000Thus, if a religious school teaches that sex outside marriage and sex reassignment procedures are immoral, the message may be lost if the school employs a teacher who is in a same-sex relationship or has undergone or is undergoing sex reassignment.
00:19:36.000This is particularly true, by the way, even if you had a rule that said same-sex teachers, same-sex married teachers, just don't talk about it in the classroom.
00:19:42.000They could then sue and say, listen, I get to be who I am.
00:19:52.000At least some teachers and applicants for teaching positions may be blocked from recovering on such claims by the ministerial exemption.
00:19:58.000Exception recognized in Hosanna-Tabor Evangelical Lutheran Church and School versus EEOC from 2012.
00:20:03.000Two cases now pending before the court present the question whether teachers who provide religious instruction could be considered to be ministers.
00:20:09.000But what if you are a secular teacher at a religious institution?
00:20:13.000Or an administrator at a secular institution.
00:20:38.000It's not that this case inherently changes the rules so radically.
00:20:40.000It's that this case provides the framework for changing the rules incredibly radically.
00:20:44.000If Democrats take control of Congress and press forward the Equality Act to get rid of the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, which is the great protection here, that religious organizations can protect themselves from the predations of the federal government on social issues.
00:20:56.000If the Democrats take over and push forward their view of religion, which is that religion is but a cover for bigotry, right?
00:21:01.000This is something Cory Booker has said and Beto O'Rourke has said.
00:21:04.000And if you're a religious institution, you oppose same-sex marriage, it's not that you have a good faith objection to same-sex marriage because you believe in traditional marriage, it's that you're a bigot.
00:21:12.000And therefore, there should be no religious exemptions.
00:21:14.000We should remove your non-profit status.
00:21:15.000We should make sure that you can't actually teach kids this stuff.
00:21:18.000Religious liberty is endangered by decisions like this.
00:21:22.000Not to mention, it also creates significant problems for free speech.
00:21:25.000Let's say that you're a political organization.
00:21:33.000But now let's say that I say on the show what I always say on the show, which is biological men are biological men, and biological women are biological women.
00:21:39.000And let's say that I say that in the offices.
00:21:41.000I'm talking to a group of people in our editorial meeting.
00:21:43.000I said it's the editorial viewpoint of our website that biology exists.
00:21:48.000Does that now constitute a discriminatory work environment under Title VII?
00:21:53.000In other words, the federal government has stepped in, and on behalf of a good, seen by, I would say, maybe a majority of the population, but a bare majority of the population, in the case of transgenderism, maybe a minority of the population, in terms of people who actually believe that Transgender people are members of the sex to which they claim membership.
00:22:11.000On behalf of that, you're going to violate fundamental precepts of free speech and freedom of religion and freedom of association?
00:22:18.000There are serious ramifications to invading people's liberty, even if you agree with the invasion of liberty.
00:22:23.000Even if you agree with the particular invasion of liberty, there's a great danger to giving government this type of power.
00:22:28.000It is a real problem and a threat to religious liberty.
00:22:30.000And again, we have no idea the ramifications.
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00:24:40.000Okay, so meanwhile, while the Supreme Court was declaring that it can fully invade freedom of association and possibly freedom of religion on behalf of rights that have never existed in the Constitution of the United States, right?
00:24:50.000The right to be employed by a person, which is not a thing.
00:24:54.000And to be employed by a person, if you come in dressed as a member of the opposite sex or claiming membership of the opposite sex, or the right to be employed by a religious organization, despite violating the tenets of that religious organization.
00:25:05.000All of these rights are now being declared.
00:25:06.000But there's one right the Supreme Court will not defend, and that is the right to keep and bear arms.
00:25:13.000In a New Jersey case, there was a New Jersey law that required a person to show a justifiable need before he can bear a handgun outside your home.
00:25:20.000Okay, and the Supreme Court, which has, remember, six Republican appointees on it, rejected it.
00:25:29.000They decided they weren't even going to look at it.
00:25:31.000So while they were creating, out of whole cloth, federal rights for transgender people to employment, they were rejecting a writ that would clarify whether, in fact, you have a right to keep and bear arms.
00:25:43.000This is the group of people who are making decisions for you.
00:25:46.000Meanwhile, the justices also rejected the federal objection to California's migrant sanctuary law.
00:25:55.000The justices left intact a federal appeals court decision that upheld the central part of a 2017 California law.
00:26:00.000The administration argued that the measure undermines deportation efforts, violating federal immigration law and the Constitution.
00:26:06.000Justices Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito said they would have granted review.
00:26:10.000Instead, the justices didn't even grant review of these local sanctuary laws, which are very, very controversial indeed.
00:26:25.000Now, this does have some broader ramifications for the culture.
00:26:28.000So this is not just a question of the Supreme Court.
00:26:30.000The question of how you unify a country and how you tear it apart is preoccupying us right now on a cultural level.
00:26:36.000Because, again, there's a group of people in the United States, I would say the vast middle, who basically say, whatever floats your boat, do what you want.
00:26:43.000Do what you want, and we'll all deal with it.
00:26:46.000As long as you're not invading my rights, do what you want.
00:26:48.000And then there are a group of people who are in the middle of a cultural purge.
00:26:51.000And their idea is, it's good when the federal government sets these top, broad, top-down standards because it unifies us.
00:26:58.000It makes us all into little widgets of the federal government.
00:27:21.000The question is whether you believe that America is inherently and systemically racist, and that needs to be corrected by institutional mechanisms that use group injustice in favor of individual justice, right?
00:27:32.000That is the big question before us right now.
00:27:34.000And if you will not bend, if you will not bend the knee, then you will be destroyed, right?
00:27:40.000There's a left-wing account called Palmer Report, very popular account on the left.
00:27:45.000And I thought this person summed this up well.
00:27:48.000Palmer Report wrote, Which is hysterical because conservatism, of course, is predicated on certain fundamental declaration of independence notions like equality before law.
00:27:57.000All men are created equal with inalienable rights.
00:28:00.000That is the predicate for conservatism.
00:28:03.000The Palmer Report says, Conservatism means you don't believe in equality.
00:28:06.000It means you want it all for yourself, and you're willing to destroy other groups of people to take it all for yourself.
00:28:10.000That's not a crime against the law, but it's a crime against humanity, and we must acknowledge as much.
00:28:14.000Conservatives cannot be, cannot be teachers, police officers, doctors, lawyers, coaches, or bosses.
00:28:20.000It's constitutionally unfair to others who are subjected to conservatives' deranged judgment.
00:28:36.000The individual regime of rights, the individual notion that you have individual rights, that has to be tossed out the window because, of course, individual rights protect bad people.
00:29:07.000It's a perennial revolution, a purifying fire that unifies us all by cleansing the impure elements.
00:29:13.000And this is what we are seeing right now on the most bizarre scale imaginable.
00:29:18.000So bizarre that, for example, Boston is now considering removing, talking about impurity, Boston is now considering removing a statue of Abraham Lincoln freeing a slave.
00:29:28.000We're now going to remove this statue, according to Boston.
00:29:37.000A petition to remove the statue was spearheaded by an African-American man from Boston named Torrey Bullock, who says he's been seeing the statue since he was a kid.
00:29:43.000Bullock says his petition has more than 7,000 signatures and the attention of Boston Mayor Marty Walsh, who Bullock posted is willing to talk about removing it.
00:29:50.000Bullock says it says it's a statue that's supposed to represent freedom, but to me it represents submissiveness.
00:29:54.000It represents know your place because that's where you belong.
00:30:09.000By the way, this is not what the statue represents.
00:30:12.000The statue is a replica of an identical statue in Washington, D.C.
00:30:15.000that freed slaves paid for as a tribute to Lincoln.
00:30:19.000The statue, which still stands in Lincoln Park, was erected with contributions from hundreds of former slaves who wanted to pay tribute to the man who had proclaimed their freedom in 1863, according to the Washington Post.
00:30:29.000The Post noted that a broken chain was specifically placed in the slave's hand to make it clear the slave was an eager participant in his own liberation.
00:30:37.000In 1876, Frederick Douglass spoke at the unveiling of the memorial in Washington, D.C.
00:30:41.000He said, the sentiment that brings us here today is one of the noblest that can stir and thrill the human heart.
00:30:45.000It has crowned and made glorious the high places of all civilized nations, but the grandest and most enduring works of art designed to illustrate the characters and perpetuate the memories of great public men.
00:30:58.000They're talking about removing it now.
00:31:00.000Meanwhile, the LA Times is in turmoil.
00:31:04.000Because it turns out that the journalists over at the LA Times want to make sure that they don't cover specific issues.
00:31:09.000Because it would not be racially fair to cover rioting and looting apparently at the LA Times, right?
00:31:15.000All impure elements of the woke culture must be purged, including the editorial board over at the LA Times.
00:31:21.000By the way, the editorial board at the LA Times is so far left and so dishonest, they printed a piece today that suggested that the killing of Raymond Brooks in Atlanta was the killing of an unarmed black man, which is not true.
00:31:32.000He was literally holding an officer's taser and firing it at him.
00:31:38.000First, let's talk about the fact That you should not be going to your local auto zone right now because number one, why would you?
00:31:44.000And number two, because you shouldn't be congregating in large groups unless you're protesting for a good cause, according to many in power these days.
00:31:53.000It's much easier than walking into a store and somebody demanding quick answers to things like, is your Odyssey an LX or an EX and then overcharging you.
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00:34:19.000So when it comes to the cultural left, I feel like the cultural left is basically, at this point, acting like Hans Gruber in Die Hard.
00:34:33.000Remember, there's a scene in which Hans Gruber executes a hostage, right?
00:34:37.000And then he says to John McClane, Bruce Willis, he says to him, you know, Keep resisting.
00:34:44.000Sooner or later, I'm going to get to somebody you do care about.
00:34:46.000Sooner or later, the left is going to get to something you do care about.
00:34:49.000Because the left won't stop until you do.
00:34:52.000And until they feel some resistance, they're just going to continue the purge.
00:34:56.000And so this is why you're seeing them target leftist institutions, right?
00:34:59.000The easiest thing in the world is to target leftist or weak-kneed institutions because they can get away with it.
00:35:04.000This is why they're targeting the media.
00:35:05.000The first places they are going are academia and the media because the left already runs those places and they are deathly afraid of being labeled Mensheviks by the Bolsheviks.
00:35:12.000They are afraid of being purified in the angered 1793 French Revolution fire.
00:35:19.000So over at the New York Times, NPR is now reporting that there is an internal uprising to describe the anger over racial inequity at the paper.
00:35:26.000Scores have participated in intense internal debates over the LA Times coverage of recent protests and hiring practices, to the point that senior editors have weighed in, promising to listen and learn.
00:36:01.000Executive editor Norman Perlstein said, I would say in the cases of black journalists, we do not have enough journalists in positions where they are able to help us tell stories that really need to be told.
00:36:08.000I've asked myself in hindsight what got us to where we are now.
00:36:11.000Maybe it was thinking about whether to hire the best journalist and not how to hire on the basis of race alone.
00:36:15.000In L.A., the inequities sparking today's rancor have existed for years, long before the current owner or editors were involved.
00:36:22.000But they were brought to a head, journalists say, by Floyd's killing, by the killing of George Floyd, and the protests demanding societal change.
00:36:39.000Times covered the fact that there was rioting and looting, which was kind of noteworthy in L.A., which was shut down for a full week because of rioting and looting, and Beverly Hills was closed at 1 p.m., the protests weren't the big story in L.A.
00:36:50.000Forcing everybody into their house at 6 p.m.
00:36:56.000In an internal Slack exchange, LA Times film reporter, Saniya Kelly, who is black, said the newspaper had focused too squarely and too often on the question of looting.
00:37:04.000Well, clearly she has, you know, deep perspective on this as the film reporter, as the film, but she's black.
00:37:09.000So black Trump's film reporter in terms of qualifications to talk about what is worthy of news coverage in this area.
00:37:15.000She says we can't constantly pander to our primarily white audience with stories like this or affirm their biases.
00:37:20.000One of the responsibilities of the job is to stake the facts and tell it true.
00:37:23.000There's so much implicit bias in those few sentences alone, and it's alienating the viewers we're trying to attract, as well as the people of color, journalists like me, who contribute so much to this paper and then have to read stories like this that oversimplify our struggles and realities.
00:37:48.000The Chicago Sun-Times has made an editorial decision.
00:37:51.000From now on, when they refer to Black Americans, or Black people, they're going to capitalize the B in Black.
00:37:58.000They will capitalize the B in black when referring to people who are part of the African diaspora, according to Nader Issa, who is a reporter over there.
00:39:08.000There are lots of different tribes, lots of different ethnicities inside of Africa.
00:39:13.000Like, to pretend that that is like a unified body politic, and that you can just say, everybody from Africa, that's part of one group, that's black.
00:39:19.000And everybody from, what, Latin America and South America, all those people are part of one body politic, and that's Brown, capital B. And all the white people, that's from a bunch of different, that's like France, that's Italy, and that's England, and that's...
00:39:34.000What is the tacit message underlying the decision to capitalize black and brown versus white?
00:39:38.000The idea is that white people are only unified, not by any sort of racial identity, but they are unified instead in opposition to black and brown people, right?
00:39:46.000That's the actual narrative, is that black and brown people are cohesive identities.
00:39:49.000White is not a cohesive identity, except in opposition to black and brown people.
00:39:54.000Black and brown are not cohesive identities, because again, you could be a West Indian immigrant to the United States, and be black and that is not the same thing as you grew up in the in the american south you could be from jamaica and be black that is not the same thing as you grew up in louisiana obviously there's wide diversity in human relations but the decision here to label people as part of a unified group because they are black or because they are brown
00:40:19.000but if you're white then you're not really part of a unified group like i'm not complaining that they're not saying white is unified group i'm complaining that they're saying that all black and brown people are alike that all black people are like and all brown people are like but white people are diverse so the only reason to use white is in opposition to black and brown so much of this is about stoking racial division not fostering inclusiveness or seeing people as individuals meanwhile it's not just the media that are being bullied here - Yeah.
00:40:44.000It is also, I mean, it is also the Boy Scouts.
00:40:48.000So the Boy Scouts are now apparently considering a Black Lives Matter badge.
00:40:53.000The Boy Scouts of America says they are committed to introducing a specific diversity and inclusion merit badge, which is perfect.
00:40:59.000I mean, you're out in the forest and you need to build a fire because these are usually the skills that you're taught in the Boy Scouts.
00:41:10.000You can't do it without the diversity merit badge.
00:41:12.000If you're out in the wilderness, gotta survive on your own, survivor situation, first thing you need, you take a look at the diversity and inclusion merit badge, you're like, ah, I know what I'll do.
00:42:53.000It is a human rights issue and one we all have a duty to address.
00:42:56.000So they're including a specific diversity and inclusion merit badge that will be required for the rank of Eagle Scout.
00:43:03.000It will build on components within existing merit badges, including the American cultures and citizenship in the community merit badges, which require scouts to learn about and engage with other groups and cultures to increase understanding and spur positive action.
00:43:15.000I feel like the Boy Scouts may have lost the thread here a little bit.
00:43:19.000Again, I was under the impression that the Boy Scouts were pretty anti-racism in the first place, that actually their original 12 points about human decency sort of covered this, but apparently not.
00:43:30.000Meanwhile, how bad has this become, the purge?
00:43:32.000The purge has become so bad that a black high school principal is now under fire in Chicago.
00:43:38.000Because she recommended that her students not riot and loot.
00:43:41.000Not kidding, this is the Chicago Tribune.
00:43:42.000There's a person named Joyce Kenner, When she was 11, she witnessed people taking to the streets in her hometown of Dayton, Ohio for the same things we are marching for today.
00:43:50.000She said she recalls her fight of her father writing black-owned business across the window of his record store so protesters would spare it from damage.
00:43:57.000And she says she stands with the Black Lives Matter protesters.
00:44:31.000When you have top-down rules set by the guy with the gun, the government, and when you purge all non-believers.
00:44:36.000Now, it seems to me this is actually gonna create more division than unity, because it turns out there are a lot of people in this country who don't agree with a lot of the causes that are being propelled forward here.
00:44:44.000Not the cause of, you have to be mean to trans people.
00:44:48.000Or not the cause of, you have to not hire gays and lesbians.
00:44:50.000And not the cause of, you don't care about black lives.
00:44:52.000No, the cause of, you care about all those things and you don't like any of those things.
00:44:56.000And also, we believe in individual rights to do things, including things you disagree with.
00:45:15.000And now, you have created a division, where there was no division before.
00:45:19.000If you agree on broad propositions and then allow people to go about their business, a lot more people can be included in the us.
00:45:24.000When you create a very specific set of rules that everyone must abide by, and that are going to be crammed down, it's very easy to create a them out of an us.
00:45:33.000And that's exactly what's going on right now.
00:45:34.000The divisions have been exacerbated, they've not been bridged.
00:45:38.000And every time the left tries to bridge a division, they're not trying to bridge a division, they're just trying to crush dissent.
00:45:42.000And that is really, really ugly stuff.
00:45:44.000Okay, meanwhile, you can tell who is the in-group and who is the out-group.
00:45:51.000It's perfectly obvious in terms of COVID policy, for example.
00:45:53.000Who's the in-group and who's the out-group, right?
00:45:55.000If you're part of the in-group, then the special privileges attach.
00:45:57.000Like apparently, COVID doesn't apply to you if you're part of the in-group.
00:46:00.000If you're part of the in-group, then COVID is fine.
00:46:58.000So the positivity rates aren't rising.
00:46:59.000Also, hospitalizations are falling in a lot of places like Florida.
00:47:02.000So that suggests that perhaps these tests are picking up a lot of asymptomatic individuals.
00:47:07.000that people who don't have severe problems are being picked up by the test.
00:47:11.000But the media are trumpeting COVID-19 as a continuing danger, except if you are in the right category.
00:47:19.000So if you're a protester, then there's no problem at all.
00:47:22.000As I mentioned yesterday, Bill de Blasio has told his contact tracers in New York City, do not ask people with COVID if they've been to a protest.
00:47:30.000I mean, wouldn't that be like the number one job?
00:47:32.000Were you in a large group of people shouting without a mask on?
00:47:35.000That seems to me like that might be the number one job, but no.
00:47:38.000In New York, they're going to ignore that.
00:47:39.000Meanwhile, Bill de Blasio is welding shut playgrounds in Jewish areas.
00:47:43.000Because the great danger, obviously, is little kids playing with each other in Jewish areas.
00:47:47.000Now listen, I think there's a good case to be made that people continue to socially distance and wear masks and do all of the things that are responsible.
00:47:55.000But I'm also not going to pretend that it is not wild hypocrisy to suggest that you can have tens of thousands of people rallying in Brooklyn without masks and in direct contact with each other, but also that young kids cannot play at a playground.
00:48:06.000By the way, young kids are not getting this thing.
00:48:08.000The death rate for very young people in the United States for COVID-19 is lower than the death rate from the flu.
00:48:16.000So, a lot of Jews in Williamsburg have basically been like, you know what, forget this.
00:48:19.000You're going to weld the playground shut?
00:48:21.000Well, we're going to go get a lock cutter and we're just going to cut into the playground.
00:48:25.000There are a bunch of local assembly members who have joined in this, breaking open the playground so that kids can play at the playground, because kids are not giving this to each other.
00:48:34.000And by the way, there's a fairly good case that if they are prosecuted, they will file a lawsuit and they will say that this is discriminatory, that Bill de Blasio is basically cracking down on the Jews, but he's not cracking down on anybody who is shattering shop windows, which is absolutely correct.
00:48:48.000Bill de Blasio himself, by the way, massive hypocrite.
00:48:50.000Bill de Blasio is apparently out sick.
00:50:43.000Time for a thing that I hate, and then we'll do a thing that I like.
00:50:51.000So yesterday, there's a big story that went around, and it's worth debunking because it went viral, and that is that some NYPD officers say they were poisoned at a Shake Shack.
00:50:58.000Basically, what they said is that there were three officers who were handed drinks full of bleach.
00:51:03.000It turns out that people just hadn't cleaned the machine properly.
00:51:05.000They did an investigation, the people hadn't cleaned the machine properly.
00:51:08.000It is good to knock down those narratives.
00:51:09.000So now, the entire media have decided that the NYPD as a whole is bad.
00:51:14.000The NYPD as a whole is mean, and they tell false stories because of all this.
00:51:18.000So in other words, these guys were given cups with bleach in them, and then they drank it, and they said this tastes like bleach, and they had to go to the hospital, and they suspected that it may have been purposeful given all the anti-cop stuff, and it turns out not to have been purposeful.
00:51:29.000Now the NYPD is very bad, but all the people who attack the NYPD are good.
00:51:33.000Okay, so the NYPD is now going to disband its plainclothes anti-crime units.
00:51:39.000So, by the way, the crime rates in these big cities are just going to spike.
00:51:42.000They're going to spike dramatically and obviously.
00:51:44.000That is the next thing to happen here.
00:51:45.000The New York Post reports the NYPD is disbanding its undercover anti-crime unit after being involved in a quote-unquote disproportionate number of shootings.
00:51:53.000The roughly 600 cops spread out at precincts and PSAs across the city will be reassigned into other posts, including the detective bureau and neighborhood police, the city's top cop said.
00:52:01.000Now, one of the reasons you have plainclothespolice is because you actually don't want people knowing all the time that the cops are there.
00:52:07.000It's the same reason the cops hide behind hedges when they're policing traffic.
00:52:10.000Because if you see the cop, then you stop committing the crime preemptively, or you just go to another area and commit the crime.
00:52:17.000And plainclothes cops mean you don't know who the cops are, so presumably, if you suspect that there are lots of cops around, you're not going to do what you want to do in terms of criminal activity.
00:52:25.000So they're getting rid of the plainclothes cops unit, which of course is definitely going to not result in higher crime or anything.
00:52:30.000NYPD Commissioner Dermot Shea said, This is 21st century policing, intelligence data, shot spotter, video DNA, and building up prosecutable cases.
00:52:37.000It continues to be building these cases, cases on a small number of people that unfortunately still terrorize a part of the city.
00:52:42.000I would consider this in the realm of closing on one of the last chapters on stop, question, and frisk.
00:52:46.000Shea said, When you look at the number of anti-crime officers that operate within New York City, and you look at a disproportionate, quite frankly, percentage of complaints and shootings, and they are doing exactly what was asked of them, it will be felt immediately throughout the five districts' attorney's office, It will be felt immediately in the communities that we protect.
00:53:01.000There's a policy shift coming from me personally, and men and women in the police department were doing what I asked before me asked.
00:53:11.000We will see how changes in the policing of New York result in more crime.
00:53:16.000We talked yesterday about a study from Harvard by Roland Fryer talking about the fact that five police departments were investigated after a case of a homicide saw a dramatic increase in the amount of murder in those cities in the direct aftermath of those investigations because cops knew the story and they were like, you know what?
00:53:51.000So people are saying that chokeholds should be banned.
00:53:53.000Chokeholds have been banned in most major police departments.
00:53:55.000A chokehold is where you go for the trachea.
00:53:57.000Chokehold is where you actually try to cut off somebody's supply of air.
00:54:00.000A suppression hold, as I was taught by Steven Crowder when he actually used one on me, cuts off the supply of oxygen to the brain by basically cutting off your blood supply.
00:54:08.000Essentially, what you're doing is you're not cutting off someone's supply of air, which is incredibly dangerous and they will die.
00:54:12.000A suppression hold is you cut off oxygen to the brain and it knocks them out for a specific period of time.
00:55:07.000Seattle City Council is going even further.
00:55:09.000They are now pushing To get rid of the ability for the police to use tear gas and pepper spray and other crowd control devices, which makes perfect sense because you literally have a six block area of Seattle that is now called CHOP, because they changed it from CHAZ to CHOP, that has been taken over by protesters.
00:55:28.000And by the way, people who are spray painting every business surface in the area.
00:55:32.000You have that, but you can't disperse the crowd.
00:55:34.000In a 9-0 vote Monday, they voted to get rid of both chokeholds as well as tear gas and pepper spray.
00:55:41.000One week ago, Seattle Police Officer Guild President Mike Solon said criminal agitators had taken over recent peaceful demonstrations, throwing bottles, rocks, cinder blocks, metal objects, and incendiary devices at police officers.
00:55:51.000He added that officers had been injured as a result.
00:55:54.000In regards to tear gas deployed in the early morning hours of June 8th in the Capitol Hill neighborhood, Solon said that is a less lethal tool that is effective in restoring public order.
00:56:01.000You get rid of things like tear gas, what do you think is going to happen when the police have to disperse somebody?
00:56:05.000They can no longer use the tear gas, which is, you fire tear gas in an area, it makes people cry and choke up, and then they have to leave.
00:56:12.000As opposed to, now you can't use that.
00:56:14.000So what, you got police officers waiting in there with a baton?
00:56:16.000Like, how does this make things better?
00:56:17.000Unless you're just abandoning the area of the city completely.
00:56:22.000I mean, as Seattle Police Chief Carmen Best, who, by the way, is a woman of color, said, That said, it has been very clear that people don't want us to use CS.
00:56:28.000That said, it has been very clear that people don't want us to use CS.
00:56:40.000Well, people just don't want you to police.
00:56:41.000So they're not just going to disband the police.
00:56:43.000They're just going to make it impossible for people to police.
00:56:45.000Meanwhile, how much media coverage has there been of the police officers who've been injured over the past several weeks?
00:56:50.000And we're talking about dozens of police officers injured, including some who are dead.
00:56:55.000Have you heard the story of Shea Michelonis?
00:57:04.000He was shot during an altercation that broke out following a mostly peaceful protest down the Las Vegas strip on June 1st.
00:57:10.000By the way, I do love how the media, I mean, that's Daily Wire taking that media coverage from other places like CBS News.
00:57:17.000Can you imagine a Tea Party protest that erupts into violence and a cop gets shot in the head and is now paralyzed being described as a mostly peaceful protest?
00:57:25.000Can you imagine an anti-lockdown protest where a single person gets shot and them saying, oh, well, you know, it's a mostly peaceful protest.
00:57:33.000It's like being a little bit pregnant.
00:57:35.000Las Vegas police, who have a suspect in custody related to the shooter, appear to believe that he was targeted because he was an in-uniform officer.
00:57:41.000A 20-year-old man deliberately shot Michelonis during the protest, one of hundreds being held across the nation.
00:57:47.000The guy who did the shooting took out a gun and fired at officers.
00:57:51.000He's charged with attempted murder, battery, and firearms charges, being held in lieu of $1 million.
00:57:56.000According to Michelonis' family, Shea's on a ventilator and will remain so.
00:57:59.000He's paralyzed from the neck down, unable to speak.
00:58:02.000He's awake, seems to recognize his family members.
00:58:05.000So, well done everybody, because the only shootings in America that matter are the ones that people in the media say matter.
00:58:11.000Not the shootings of a perfectly innocent police officer who's now paralyzed from the head down, from the neck down.
00:58:17.000Instead, the focus must all be on this shooting in Atlanta, where a man knocked over two cops, stole a taser, and tried to fire a taser at an officer before being shot.
00:58:27.000This man is now apparently a brutal racist, according to the entirety of the mainstream media.
00:58:32.000CNN's Bakari Sellers, commentator, he says that Rashard Brooks was murdered point-blank.
00:59:39.000I think the autopsy called it homicide.
00:59:42.000And I watch people bend over backwards, and they're gonna bend over backwards after this segment on social media, et cetera, and say, well, you know, he shouldn't have struggled with the police.
00:59:50.000He shouldn't have been drinking while driving.
01:00:09.000It turns out that the standards for what a cop is supposed to take do not include being tased in the face.
01:00:14.000That is not something that a cop is supposed to stand there and take.
01:00:16.000Not a single cop is trained for this sort of stuff.
01:00:18.000And by the way, if you try to train cops to say, oh yeah, if somebody takes out your taser and tries to tase you, you basically are supposed to just, you know... The guy's taser was gone, by the way.
01:00:25.000Like, what exactly is the cop supposed to do at that point?
01:00:44.000The crime wave that's going to come in the aftermath of this is going to be extraordinary.
01:00:47.000It's going to be an extraordinary crime wave in the aftermath of this in major cities.
01:00:50.000CNN's Chris Cuomo, who obviously knows every... He knows about as much about policing as Chris Cuomo knows about the Constitution, which is to say nothing.
01:00:58.000And about as much about this as he knows about Practical policies for preventing COVID, which apparently includes bathing in bleach, according to his wife.
01:01:06.000Here was Chris Cuomo yesterday suggesting the arresting officers had poor technique.
01:01:10.000I'm definitely going to listen to this block of wood about arresting technique because I think that he's probably an expert on police procedure.
01:01:17.000I see poor technique, and that matters in this analysis.
01:01:22.000If you can't do your job using minimal force, you wind up using more and more force.
01:01:30.000Hence, two officers not being able to control in a struggle that anybody who's had any measure of fight training sees, they don't know what they're doing.
01:01:55.000I mean, can we also point out here that if the officers had used a suppression hold and something bad had happened to them, you would have called a murder?
01:02:03.000This would have been a good scenario to use a suppression hold, right?
01:02:07.000The guy's rolling around with cops trying to steal their weapon.
01:02:09.000This would have been a good opportunity to maybe knock him out using a suppression hold, but you would then call it a choke hold and call it murder if something bad happened from a secondary health condition.
01:02:17.000So cops, it's a no-win scenario for cops.
01:02:19.000And you're going to completely botch the coverage of the situation because you have to come up with some reason that the cop is wrong here.
01:02:26.000Trevor Noah, again another police expert, he says the sober one should have de-escalated.
01:02:30.000They tried to de-escalate with this guy for 25 minutes.
01:02:35.000The tape is like 40 minutes long total.
01:02:37.000Trevor Noah blaming the cops, of course, because the cops are always to blame.
01:02:40.000Man, the aftermath of this is going to be so ugly because it turns out that when you tell police officers they can't do their job, guess what they do?
01:02:55.000In a situation like that, the sober person, in my opinion, the sober person, the onus is upon them to make sure the situation doesn't get out of hand.
01:03:21.000But again, the goal here is there's an in-group and an out-group.
01:03:24.000If you're part of the out-group, and that now includes cops, then you are simply deemed not woke enough no matter what you do.
01:03:30.000And so anything is justified against you, including maybe murder charges.
01:03:33.000They're not talking about murder charges for this cop.
01:03:36.000I swear, you'd have to be a dullard to go into policing at this point in time.
01:03:40.000Seriously, I have nothing but admiration for people who go into policing, but I don't know how a sane and rational person could look at this climate and think to themselves, you know what?
01:03:49.000And in fact, I don't know many cops who are thinking that they want to stay cops right now, given the climate in America's major cities.
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