The Ben Shapiro Show - August 04, 2020


The Train At The End Of The Tunnel | Ep. 1066

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00:00:00.000 Everyone continues to panic over COVID.
00:00:02.000 The media pretend universal mail-in voting is a great idea.
00:00:04.000 And Trump does another disastrous interview.
00:00:06.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.
00:00:07.000 This is the Ben Shapiro Show.
00:00:09.000 Today's show is sponsored by ExpressVPN.
00:00:17.000 Stand up for your digital rights.
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00:00:21.000 Now, there is a real gap that has emerged in reality.
00:00:24.000 It's a rift in the space-time continuum.
00:00:26.000 See, there's reality on the one end.
00:00:28.000 And this reality basically says that COVID's bad, it's risky, you should be careful.
00:00:33.000 Also, it says that despite reopening in Texas, Arizona, and Florida, and despite the fact that there were increased hospitalizations and some increased deaths, that that number has started to go down again.
00:00:44.000 These data suggest that things are not looking bad in places like New York and New Jersey.
00:00:48.000 That despite increasing cases in Massachusetts, you're not seeing an overwhelming wave of death.
00:00:53.000 That in fact, this is a virus that we are learning how to deal with, that the treatments are getting better, that people are generally being more careful.
00:00:59.000 And that while we should be risk averse, we should also acknowledge that it's time to get back to something resembling ordinary life.
00:01:05.000 It doesn't mean go into extraordinarily risky circumstances.
00:01:08.000 It doesn't mean don't wear a mask.
00:01:09.000 It does mean that this notion we're going to lock down forever is very silly, right?
00:01:12.000 That would be the accurate way of putting reality.
00:01:14.000 Then there's the hair on fire media.
00:01:16.000 There are the politicians, and that is we are all going to die. 0.99
00:01:19.000 You. 0.98
00:01:20.000 You personally are going to die of COVID.
00:01:21.000 Sure, you're 20 years old and you've never had a health issue in your entire life.
00:01:24.000 You will probably die of COVID.
00:01:26.000 Not only you.
00:01:27.000 All of your friends.
00:01:28.000 Everyone will probably die of COVID.
00:01:30.000 That is the only rationale I can come up with for the way that politicians are currently acting.
00:01:35.000 See, here's the thing.
00:01:36.000 People want government to do all the things.
00:01:37.000 People have this perverse notion that government can save you from all the bad things that happen in the universe.
00:01:42.000 Now, government does have a role when it comes to global pandemics in ensuring, for example, that People cannot enter from countries that the pandemic is extraordinarily prevalent in.
00:01:53.000 The government does have a role when it comes to enforcing public health.
00:01:56.000 But the problem is the government is a blunt force instrument.
00:01:58.000 This is true in every area of life.
00:02:00.000 Government is not exact. 0.99
00:02:01.000 Government is fairly ridiculous. 0.95
00:02:03.000 And when government tries to be fairly exact, it tends to fail. 0.98
00:02:06.000 So let me give you an example.
00:02:07.000 So over the weekend, my sister-in-law got married.
00:02:10.000 The restrictions that were put on the wedding were ones that were going to be voluntarily undertaken anyway.
00:02:14.000 It was an outdoor wedding as opposed to an indoor wedding.
00:02:16.000 Everybody was socially distanced.
00:02:17.000 Everybody was wearing masks in the little bridal gifts that you get when you register for the wedding.
00:02:23.000 There was hand sanitizers.
00:02:24.000 Everybody was hand sanitizing.
00:02:26.000 The restrictions that were placed on the wedding by the state of California were things like you can't have a dance floor.
00:02:31.000 I'm not kidding.
00:02:32.000 So it has to be outdoors and you can't have a dance floor because if there's a dance floor, people might dance.
00:02:36.000 Whereas if there's just an open field, nobody will dance.
00:02:38.000 Which of course is ridiculous because people have been dancing for centuries without dance floors.
00:02:43.000 And there are restrictions that said things like, well, you know, you just have to make sure that there are shields around everybody who is talking to one another, right?
00:02:52.000 You have to have the plexiglass shields, which is totally fine.
00:02:54.000 Everybody is doing that, except that you're also outdoors and you're socially distancing.
00:02:58.000 In other words, government does not have the capacity to actually do any of this stuff right.
00:03:02.000 The government is a blunt force instrument.
00:03:03.000 Sometimes you need a blunt force instrument.
00:03:05.000 The problem is the most blunt force instrument of the government is the lockdowns.
00:03:08.000 The lockdowns are a button.
00:03:09.000 And basically when people say, government do something, politicians just smash the button.
00:03:13.000 Like a small toddler, they just smash the button.
00:03:16.000 And it doesn't matter whether smashing the button is merited.
00:03:20.000 It doesn't really matter whether there are actually countervailing problems with smashing the button.
00:03:25.000 Government actors have now been incentivized to smash the button at the first available opportunity, which is actually quite bad.
00:03:31.000 Because, for example, there are significant problems with smashing the button and doing it over and over and over again.
00:03:38.000 For example, the New York Times reports today, That the pandemic that really we should be worried about is the tuberculosis pandemic.
00:03:46.000 The New York Times has an article today about the tuberculosis pandemic saying people are not getting vaccinated.
00:03:46.000 Not kidding.
00:03:51.000 There's a study out today suggesting that everybody being locked in their homes has actually resulted in people having weaker immune systems, which makes perfect sense.
00:03:57.000 This is actually the case during polio.
00:03:59.000 People who are upper income were actually getting polio, were getting seriously affected by polio at a higher rate than people lower income because people lower income had their kids out playing in the streets and that was building up their immune system.
00:04:10.000 According to the New York Times, it begins with a mild fever and malaise, followed by a painful cough and shortness of breath. The infection prospers in crowds, spreading to people in close reach. Containing an outbreak requires contact tracing as well as isolation and treatment of the sick for weeks or months. This insidious disease has touched every part of the globe.
00:04:24.000 It is tuberculosis, the biggest infectious disease killer worldwide, claiming 1.5 million lives each year. Until this year, TB and its deadly allies, HIV and malaria, were on the run.
00:04:35.000 Yet now, as the COVID pandemic spreads across the world, consuming global health resources, these perennially neglected adversaries are making a comeback.
00:04:42.000 Pedro Alonso, director of the WHO's Global Malaria Program, says COVID-19 risks derailing all our efforts and taking us back to where we were 20 years ago.
00:04:51.000 It's not just that scientific attention has been diverted from these other much more deadly diseases in terms of global cost.
00:04:57.000 COVID-19 has to date killed something like, I believe, three quarters of a million people in a variety of countries, about 700,000 people in a variety of countries.
00:05:05.000 Tuberculosis every year kills 1.5 million people.
00:05:09.000 Obviously, we've done a pretty good job in the United States attempting on tuberculosis in a way we have not done with COVID-19, but there are costs to shuttering everything in the world.
00:05:17.000 The lockdowns have raised insurmountable barriers to patients who have to travel to obtain diagnoses or drugs.
00:05:22.000 According to interviews with two dozen public health officials, doctors, and patients worldwide, fear of COVID and the shuttering of clinics have kept away many patients struggling with HIV, TB, and malaria.
00:05:32.000 About 80% of tuberculosis, HIV, and malaria programs have reported disruptions in service.
00:05:37.000 In other words, lockdowns have consequences, guys.
00:05:39.000 And this ridiculous notion that you can lockdown endlessly and it has no consequences, either economic or health-related consequences.
00:05:45.000 You won't see an uptick in deaths of despair.
00:05:47.000 You won't see an uptick in other childhood diseases becoming much more prevalent because kids are not going in to get vaccinated.
00:05:53.000 It's just not true. 0.71
00:05:54.000 We have done the stupidest possible thing you can do in public policy, which is single-factor analysis. 0.96
00:05:58.000 Single-factor analysis is where you just say, the worst thing in the world is getting infected from COVID. 0.89
00:06:02.000 What can we do to stop getting infected with COVID?
00:06:04.000 And so you just mash that government button. 0.64
00:06:06.000 And as we'll see, this leads to some incredibly dumb policy, like the policy we are currently seeing in New York.
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00:07:29.000 Okay, so as I say, we are now living in this alternative reality where reality says that things are not great, but they are also not the end of the world.
00:07:36.000 And this alternative reality, the political alternative reality, where we ignore all data.
00:07:41.000 We ignore actual hard data in favor of overblown headlines that don't actually convey a lot of information.
00:07:46.000 We just go to the most ridiculous version of the headline.
00:07:48.000 You'll remember a few months ago, there were all these headlines coming out of New York. 0.94
00:07:51.000 Children suddenly being infected with COVID and having terrible, terrible reactions.
00:07:56.000 Kawasaki-like syndrome reactions.
00:07:59.000 And nobody ever asked, how many people was it?
00:08:00.000 And it was like 80.
00:08:02.000 And were those effects permanent?
00:08:03.000 No.
00:08:04.000 But this led the news for literally a week.
00:08:06.000 It led the news, right?
00:08:09.000 The gap is really bad.
00:08:10.000 And that gap is getting worse.
00:08:11.000 The gap between information and simply political coverage is getting worse and worse, which is the reason why, for example, there's a woman over at MSNBC who just quit, an MSNBC producer who just quit.
00:08:24.000 And she wrote a letter basically saying the reason she's quitting is because cable news is bad for everybody.
00:08:29.000 She wrote a scathing letter saying that they block diversity of opinion over at MSNBC.
00:08:33.000 And not only do they block diversity of opinion, they also avoid actually reporting good information in order to do segments that are likely to draw eyeballs.
00:08:41.000 So all the incentive structures are wrong.
00:08:43.000 Our politicians are incentivized to smash the lockdown button in order to avoid blame. 0.92
00:08:47.000 Our media figures are incentivized to panic at every available opportunity.
00:08:51.000 Or alternatively, to blithely dismiss the thing is not a problem at all.
00:08:54.000 And you don't get any good information.
00:08:56.000 You still haven't, we are now, let's see, we locked down in March.
00:08:59.000 So March, April, May, June, July.
00:09:00.000 We are now in month six of lockdown.
00:09:03.000 Okay, and you still don't know much more about this thing than you did originally. 0.94
00:09:07.000 Because the coverage here is just garbage. 0.99
00:09:09.000 It's just garbage. 0.99
00:09:11.000 Okay, and some of the scientists have done a poor job of conveying their findings, but it is not just that. 0.98
00:09:15.000 It is also that everybody is incentivized wrong.
00:09:17.000 So, perfect example of this.
00:09:18.000 Bill de Blasio yesterday announced that outdoor dining will be the norm in New York through next year.
00:09:25.000 Through next year!
00:09:26.000 How the hell does he know?
00:09:28.000 He says open restaurants will return next summer starting June 1st, 2021.
00:09:35.000 Next summer?
00:09:36.000 Not even like January 2021.
00:09:38.000 June 2021!
00:09:38.000 Okay, now, I know.
00:09:41.000 I've got my calendar here.
00:09:43.000 I've been reliably informed that today is August 4th.
00:09:46.000 So he is talking about 10 months of extensions to no indoor dining in New York.
00:09:53.000 What is the data that supports this?
00:09:55.000 Seriously, what's the data?
00:09:56.000 I get that indoor dining is more likely to spread COVID.
00:10:01.000 Then outdoor dining is.
00:10:02.000 I've gone to restaurants and done outdoor dining, and when given the option to eat indoors, I eat outdoors.
00:10:05.000 I get it.
00:10:06.000 I'm on board.
00:10:07.000 But we don't know where things are gonna be in June 2021.
00:10:10.000 We have no idea where things are gonna be in January 2021.
00:10:13.000 We don't know where things are gonna be in October 2020.
00:10:17.000 The notion that you're gonna shut down all of New York City.
00:10:19.000 I mean, you know how many bodegas are gonna go out of business because of this?
00:10:22.000 15,000 small restaurants have already gone out of business in the United States in the past six months, and they ain't coming back.
00:10:26.000 And he's gonna ban basic, like, there's not a lot of outdoor dining in New York.
00:10:29.000 Hate to tell you, not a lot of space in New York.
00:10:31.000 This is one of the big problems with New York City. 0.99
00:10:33.000 So here's Bill de Blasio, idiot, communist, groundhog murderer mayor of New York, this big, weird Frankenstein of a human, saying that open restaurants will return next summer, June 2021. 1.00
00:10:45.000 As we'll see in a moment, this is Patently Crazy. 1.00
00:10:47.000 Here's Bill de Blasio being a crazy person. 0.62
00:10:50.000 These restaurants will be back again next year on the street as we've seen tremendous success starting June 1st next year. 0.63
00:10:59.000 And I wanted to say it now because I want people in communities to look forward and see that we're going to keep coming back strong.
00:11:05.000 I want the folks who own the restaurants to know that they're going to have that additional revenue going forward.
00:11:10.000 The folks who work in the restaurants to know that whatever else we have to weather, we have seen that this experiment worked.
00:11:18.000 So expect to see that wonderful outdoor dining back next year.
00:11:22.000 We may even extend it further earlier in the spring, but we'll start with June 1st for now.
00:11:29.000 OK, so we're going to shut down.
00:11:31.000 He's saying we're going to shut down all of New York basically for for months and months and months and years and years and years.
00:11:35.000 Here's the latest data from New York.
00:11:36.000 Here's the latest data from New York and the latest data from New York.
00:11:41.000 Let's look at some of these charts.
00:11:42.000 OK, so here's some charts.
00:11:44.000 Daily testing in New York.
00:11:46.000 Okay, here's the positivity rate.
00:11:48.000 The positivity rate.
00:11:49.000 So, in April, the positivity rate on tests in New York City was in excess of 70%.
00:11:52.000 This is from my friend David Bonson.
00:11:55.000 The positivity rate was in excess of 70%.
00:11:56.000 It has been less than 2% since June 16th.
00:11:59.000 It is currently at less than 1%.
00:12:01.000 The positivity rate in New York City.
00:12:04.000 Okay, how about some more charts?
00:12:06.000 Okay, we have this one.
00:12:07.000 This is the total number of cases in Manhattan.
00:12:10.000 Okay, in New York City.
00:12:11.000 There are over 6,000 daily cases a day in April.
00:12:15.000 And by the way, that is wildly undercounting because the testing simply was not available.
00:12:19.000 And so there are a lot of people who are getting this and suffering with it who are not being tested positively.
00:12:24.000 On Monday, there were 57 cases.
00:12:25.000 57 cases in all of Manhattan.
00:12:27.000 In all of Manhattan.
00:12:32.000 Hey, let's look at hospitalizations in New York City.
00:12:35.000 And hospitalizations in New York City.
00:12:38.000 Okay, 15 total COVID hospitalizations.
00:12:41.000 And this has been the case for months.
00:12:43.000 For months, since the beginning of June, you have been talking significantly under 100 hospitalizations for COVID in New York City.
00:12:51.000 We are now down to 15.
00:12:53.000 Okay, and the mortalities just don't exist in New York.
00:12:55.000 Okay, thank God.
00:12:56.000 Mortalities are just gone.
00:12:58.000 There are many days of zero mortalities.
00:13:00.000 It is always less than 10.
00:13:01.000 It has been less than 10 for weeks.
00:13:03.000 You are now more likely to be shot in New York City than you are to die from COVID in New York City on a daily basis.
00:13:07.000 Okay, that is not an exaggeration.
00:13:09.000 That is a reality.
00:13:10.000 You are more likely today to be shot in New York City than you are to die of COVID in New York City.
00:13:16.000 So when Bill de Blasio announces things like the schools are only gonna open under certain conditions, and we're gonna do it like two days a week, and then we're gonna shift students in and out, and we're going to shut down all the restaurants, and we're gonna make sure that nobody dines indoors.
00:13:28.000 Like, I have a question.
00:13:29.000 By what metric would you actually be able to reopen anything?
00:13:32.000 And the answer is that by no metric, because the politics of the situation have completely taken over.
00:13:39.000 This is all insanity.
00:13:40.000 Again, you can be cautious, and you can be smart, and you can be risk-averse. 1.00
00:13:44.000 You don't have to be an idiot. 1.00
00:13:46.000 But this is idiotic. 1.00
00:13:47.000 Lockdown policies like this are idiotic. 1.00
00:13:50.000 Meanwhile, over in L.A., we are similarly deploying the LAPD. 1.00
00:13:53.000 We won't shut down complete riots in the middle of L.A.
00:13:55.000 streets, so long as you are shouting George Floyd at the time.
00:13:58.000 But we'll make sure that LAPD is deployed to ensure that if somebody has a private party in a mansion on a hilltop with a bunch of 20-year-olds, that the cops show up to break it up.
00:14:08.000 Because the last thing we want is a bunch of 20-year-olds getting COVID and being fine.
00:14:11.000 That's the last thing we want.
00:14:12.000 And by the way, if you're 20, that's what happens.
00:14:14.000 You get COVID and you're fine.
00:14:16.000 And I'm noticing that there haven't been a lot of calls about racial profiling here.
00:14:19.000 Okay, this is tape from the mansion.
00:14:22.000 I don't see a lot of white faces here.
00:14:24.000 This is very disproportionately Minority party.
00:14:28.000 No claims of racial profiling here.
00:14:30.000 The cops are fine, apparently, to go to mansions and break up mansion parties with a bunch of 20-year-olds, even if those 20-year-olds are people of color. 0.99
00:14:38.000 But if they actually go and they stop people from breaking storefronts on Melrose Boulevard, that's a completely different story.
00:14:44.000 So LAPD responded to a party at a mansion.
00:14:45.000 And again, you can see from the video, these are not 70-year-old black people, right?
00:14:49.000 These are 20-year-olds who are in a pool.
00:14:53.000 This is what we've come to.
00:14:54.000 This is what we've come to.
00:14:55.000 Does this seem like intelligent policy to you?
00:14:56.000 Like seriously, does it?
00:14:58.000 Because I'm just wondering how, under what circumstances is this intelligent policy to you?
00:15:03.000 By the way, it's not the fault of the cops.
00:15:05.000 Cops are bad, except when they're breaking up pool parties where there's zero risk of harm to 20-year-olds.
00:15:09.000 Then the cops are good.
00:15:11.000 Yeah, you know.
00:15:13.000 It feels like what we really should be doing right now is looking at the fact that everything is trending the right way in places like Texas and Arizona and maybe even California.
00:15:20.000 California seems to have peaked at this point.
00:15:22.000 And we should be saying, oh look, there's light at the end of the tunnel.
00:15:24.000 And then it turns out that thanks to the media and thanks to our politicians, that's just a train coming down the other end of the tunnel. 0.99
00:15:30.000 Well, in a second, we're gonna get to our stupid politicians on a national level going at each other over COVID and all the rest. 0.99
00:15:37.000 None of us giving us any sense of confidence because that's what we do. 1.00
00:15:40.000 Everything is stupid. 0.99
00:15:41.000 We'll get to that in just one second first. 1.00
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00:15:44.000 If there was someone out there who kept a log of every single thing you did, every minute of the day, like Santa Claus, the naughty and nice list, except not bringing you presents, but instead monetizing your data, wouldn't that creep you out?
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00:17:00.000 Okay, so if you thought, okay, well, at least maybe there's some experts who are going to give us some sort of good information here and we can trust the experts.
00:17:08.000 I am amazed to see how many politicians... Here's the way it works.
00:17:11.000 If Trump says something bad about Fauci, then he's very mean and he's saying something bad about an expert.
00:17:14.000 If Nancy Pelosi rips on Deborah Birx, then she's very good. 1.00
00:17:17.000 So over the last several days, for some odd reason, Nancy Pelosi has decided that Deborah Birx is the enemy.
00:17:22.000 A lot of female solidarity happening here. 1.00
00:17:24.000 So yesterday, Nancy Pelosi slammed Dr. Deborah Birx, who's been doing her best under trying circumstances, at best. 0.99
00:17:30.000 Here she was yesterday. 0.99
00:17:32.000 And they said, well, we'll bring a scientist to say that.
00:17:35.000 I said, well, it's not Dr. Birx, because I don't have confidence in anyone who stands there while the president says, swallow Lysol and it's going to cure your virus.
00:17:46.000 He'll kill you, and you won't have the virus anymore.
00:17:48.000 I'm not confident in somebody when the president says it's a hoax, it's magic, it's going to go away by magic, it's a miracle, and all of those things.
00:17:57.000 Okay, so I have a question.
00:17:59.000 What does she expect Berks to do?
00:18:00.000 Go up and physically tackle Trump?
00:18:02.000 I love the math here.
00:18:03.000 The math is Trump's doing a bad job, therefore we need all of his advisors to quit.
00:18:07.000 And if you stand there and you try to give him good advice, that means that you're bad.
00:18:10.000 Then Andrew Cuomo got in the act.
00:18:12.000 He started slamming Berks too.
00:18:13.000 So that was great.
00:18:14.000 Here's the governor of New York who completely blew it.
00:18:16.000 His state is number one in terms of deaths.
00:18:18.000 It is not close.
00:18:19.000 And here he was slamming Dr. Deborah Berks.
00:18:23.000 Yeah, look, I think the federal officials, the White House, Dr. Birx, the Secretary, they're sending the exact wrong message.
00:18:31.000 They've learned nothing in six months.
00:18:33.000 They're saying the same thing they said about the economic reopening.
00:18:36.000 Just do it.
00:18:37.000 Just do it.
00:18:38.000 It will be fine.
00:18:39.000 And what's really frustrating is we're replicating the mistake with schools that we made with the reopening.
00:18:47.000 It is the exact same point.
00:18:50.000 And the White House is saying the exact same thing.
00:18:53.000 Okay, there's a problem with this. 1.00
00:18:55.000 He's such an idiot. 1.00
00:18:56.000 He's such an idiot. 1.00
00:18:56.000 First of all, Birx never said, just do it. 1.00
00:18:59.000 Second of all, the notion that the reopenings are the cause of the vast spikes, that doesn't actually match up on the timeline.
00:19:04.000 The protests look much more like the cause of the vast spikes than the original reopenings, which happened in May.
00:19:09.000 The uptick happened in July.
00:19:11.000 It's a two month gap.
00:19:12.000 And then beyond that, him suggesting that schools are just like every other element of society when it comes to reopening is belied by the actual data.
00:19:19.000 Which demonstrates that schools have not been vectors of transmission in nearly any country they have been tried.
00:19:24.000 Even in Israel, it's not clear why exactly the schools became a vector for transmission.
00:19:28.000 The best going data right now is that the schools were being seated with people who already had COVID when they went to school.
00:19:33.000 They weren't clean.
00:19:34.000 They were just walking in with COVID already.
00:19:36.000 Okay, so Birx fought back against this.
00:19:38.000 She said she has tremendous respect for Pelosi, but the criticism was uncalled for.
00:19:42.000 And then she suggested that things are still pretty bad, which prompted Trump to hit her.
00:19:45.000 So, you know, definitely what instills confidence in our system of public health is when public health experts like Burks are ripped by the left and then ripped by Trump in response to responding to the left and then everybody doesn't know what the hell anybody is talking about and nobody can trust any of the data because no data is being presented in the first place.
00:20:01.000 Do you feel more secure?
00:20:03.000 The great irony of this whole situation is government has never exercised more power in my lifetime than they are currently exercising over American life and abroad.
00:20:10.000 And yet there's going to be an entire group of people who suggest that the answer to all of this is to give government more power, which is patently insane.
00:20:15.000 Have you seen the people who run our government? 1.00
00:20:16.000 They're absolute freaking morons. 1.00
00:20:19.000 They have the combined IQ of a piece of bread. 1.00
00:20:21.000 I mean, they're total dolts. 0.99
00:20:23.000 Okay, I mean this like on all sides. 0.98
00:20:25.000 I'm talking about like, this is not a partisan point. 1.00
00:20:28.000 The people who are in charge of your life are some of the dumbest people I have ever seen in my entire life. 0.99
00:20:33.000 They don't know what in the hell they're talking about, and they're not presenting good data that you can make good decisions based on, and they're not making decisions that make any sense. 1.00
00:20:41.000 This is all crazy talk.
00:20:41.000 So here is Birx, trying to do her best, you know, kind of clapping back slightly, and Nancy Pelosi, and then being slapped around by Trump.
00:20:49.000 This is just, I'm sorry, this is all crazy, and if you feel sanguine about any of this, or if you think Joe Biden's going to solve any of this, that old doddering moron, none of it's going to solve any of it. 0.96
00:20:57.000 The train is coming down the tunnel, guys. 0.94
00:20:58.000 That ain't a light.
00:20:59.000 That's a train.
00:21:02.000 I have tremendous respect for the speaker.
00:21:04.000 And I have tremendous respect for her long dedication to the American people.
00:21:09.000 And I think it was unfortunate that New York Times wrote this article without speaking to me.
00:21:15.000 This was not a Pollyannish view.
00:21:17.000 I have never been called Pollyannish or non-scientific or non-data-driven.
00:21:23.000 And I will stake my 40-year career on those fundamental principles of utilizing data to really implement better programs to save more lives.
00:21:32.000 Okay, and this prompted Trump to basically say, well we should be Pollyanna.
00:21:39.000 So Trump then tweeted out, so crazy Nancy Pelosi said horrible things about Dr. Deborah Birx, going after her because she was too positive on the very good job we are doing on combating the China virus, including vaccines and therapeutics. 0.99
00:21:49.000 In order to counter Nancy, Deborah took the bait and hit us. 1.00
00:21:52.000 Pathetic! 0.99
00:21:53.000 So now he's ripped Fauci and Birx. 0.99
00:21:54.000 Like the two people who were out front, and he brought them out front, now he's ripping them.
00:21:58.000 Do you feel more safe and secure today?
00:22:00.000 I mean, that's that's really gonna be the question. 0.98
00:22:02.000 And if you're Joe Biden, all you have to do is sit in that basement and be dead. 0.97
00:22:04.000 That's all you have to do. 0.99
00:22:05.000 It's the easiest thing in the world.
00:22:06.000 All you have to do is sit in the basement and just be not alive.
00:22:09.000 I mean, people are saying right now, why doesn't Joe Biden get out there and do interviews?
00:22:12.000 Because why in the hell would he?
00:22:14.000 Seriously, why would he? 0.96
00:22:17.000 I mean, the media are playing cover for crappy Democrats across the country from Bill de Blasio to Andrew Cuomo to Gavin Newsom. 0.80
00:22:22.000 They're doing a horrible job, the Democrats. 0.88
00:22:24.000 It doesn't matter.
00:22:25.000 The media will cover for them.
00:22:27.000 The media will cover for Nancy Pelosi when she rips on Deborah Birx. 0.72
00:22:29.000 And then Trump will jump in with both feet and just, instead of him saying, Nancy Pelosi should respect public officials like Deborah Birx who are doing their best and Nancy Pelosi doesn't know what the hell she's talking about. 0.99
00:22:37.000 Instead, he jumps in and he smacks Birx. 1.00
00:22:40.000 Like, this is...
00:22:41.000 You wonder why people are feeling a little bit disappointed right now?
00:22:44.000 Why people are feeling a little bit confused?
00:22:46.000 The reason they're feeling a little bit confused is because nobody knows what the hell is going on and nobody's giving them any good solid information to make them feel like there is a plan in any of this.
00:22:54.000 And that goes for all sides.
00:22:55.000 Now, again, I think the media play a lot of this up.
00:22:57.000 I think the media have an interest in the chaos.
00:22:59.000 I think the media like the chaos.
00:23:00.000 I think the media have engaged in panic porn.
00:23:03.000 If I have to see another story about an individual anecdotal story of somebody who got COVID, All I can say is that is the biggest waste of space in a newspaper I can think of.
00:23:11.000 Anecdotal stories about people who got COVID are not useful.
00:23:14.000 Datasets are useful.
00:23:15.000 It is useful for me to know what risk my parents are at.
00:23:18.000 That's what I want to know.
00:23:19.000 I want to know why we are six months into this pandemic and I still don't know what the actual infection fatality rate is for various age groups and by precondition in the United States.
00:23:28.000 How is that possible?
00:23:29.000 That's the only question that needs an answer and we still don't have that data?
00:23:32.000 What the hell is everybody doing with their time?
00:23:35.000 Instead, it's, well, if Ron DeSantis didn't lock down, then he's a very bad man, but if Andrew Cuomo did lock down, he's a very good man, and Donald Trump is bad, and Deborah Brooks is good, or she's bad, depends on who's ripping her at the time. 0.92
00:23:45.000 This is all nonsense. 0.94
00:23:46.000 It's absolute sheer nonsense. 0.95
00:23:48.000 And here's the thing.
00:23:49.000 The fact that it's all chaotic out there meant that if Donald Trump were a good communicator, he could actually be taking advantage of that.
00:23:54.000 Unfortunately, the president happens to be, when it comes to anything that requires any sort of simplistic data analysis, not very good at this.
00:24:01.000 Okay?
00:24:01.000 And it's really going to hurt him.
00:24:02.000 If you want to see him winning, if you want to see him stave off Joe Biden and the radical left, you need him to do better than he was doing.
00:24:09.000 Which brings us to this interview he did with Jonathan Swan yesterday, which is just like, I don't know who's booking his interviews.
00:24:13.000 I swear to God, I don't know who in the comms office is booking these interviews.
00:24:17.000 But if you're in the comms office and you're like, you know what?
00:24:19.000 Sit down with the best interviewer in the business, Jonathan Swan.
00:24:21.000 Swan is a bulldog.
00:24:23.000 I know Jonathan a little bit.
00:24:24.000 He has a long history.
00:24:26.000 Jonathan's a very good reporter.
00:24:29.000 If your answer was, put the president, after going on with Chris Wallace, and You know, having a dicey time.
00:24:36.000 Sit down with Jonathan Swan.
00:24:38.000 Jonathan Swan morphed into John Oliver during this interview through no fault of his own.
00:24:42.000 And we're going to get to that in just one second.
00:24:44.000 Again, man, I'd love like a great news day.
00:24:47.000 It'd be nice, but we're just not going to get one, I think.
00:24:49.000 We'll get to that in just one second first.
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00:26:00.000 Write Shapiro in their How Did You Hear About Us box so they know that we sent you.
00:26:04.000 Okay, so...
00:26:05.000 All this brings us to the fact that if the media are going to lie about the situation regarding COVID, which they have been doing through very misleading headlines and through political coverage, and if Democratic politicians are going to smash that lockdown button and shut down entire school districts without the data to back it up, if they're going to shut down private schools that are doing their best to protect students, If Democrats have decided full-scale across the country that lockdowns are the only solution, that provides an opening for President Trump to be the informational source, right?
00:26:32.000 And this is what you would normally expect from the president.
00:26:34.000 I've said for a long time, people have asked me to grade Trump a thousand times.
00:26:37.000 What I usually say is I break it down into three categories.
00:26:40.000 One is legislative policy, one is executive policy, and one is rhetoric.
00:26:43.000 When it comes to executive policy, I think the president's been an A-minus, B-plus president.
00:26:47.000 When it comes to legislative policy, I think on judicial nominees he's gotten basically an A-minus.
00:26:52.000 I think on everything else it's been like a C-plus because you get a tax cut and that's basically what every Republican president does.
00:26:56.000 And then when it comes to rhetoric, I think he has been absolutely awful in a variety of ways.
00:27:00.000 I think that he's given like five good speeches all off teleprompter.
00:27:02.000 But one of your jobs as president is to be able to communicate not only a sense of stability to the American public in a time of great chaos.
00:27:10.000 But also you have to be able to, in a very basic way, wade through the data.
00:27:14.000 When people say that Ronald Reagan was a great president, they don't mean because he had great spending policy.
00:27:14.000 Right.
00:27:18.000 They mean because he was able to communicate with the American public and to shift people's minds in how they thought about politics.
00:27:23.000 Donald Trump does not have that capacity.
00:27:26.000 And it is a problem in a time when people are living in justifiably great fear and some unjustifiably great fear thanks to the predations of a vastly polarized media.
00:27:36.000 Okay, so, yesterday Trump sits down with Jonathan Swan of Axios.
00:27:39.000 Or he did this, I guess, a week ago.
00:27:41.000 And the video finally broke yesterday.
00:27:43.000 It is just a bleep show.
00:27:44.000 I mean, it's a bleep show.
00:27:45.000 It is bad.
00:27:46.000 It is a bad look for the president.
00:27:50.000 It was the worst of him on display.
00:27:52.000 Swan is the kind of person who is not going to let you get away with the sort of pat answers that Trump usually gets away with.
00:27:57.000 Swan is the kind of interviewer who, when Trump says things like, many people have said blah blah blah, Swan will say, which people?
00:28:04.000 And then Trump will say, many people.
00:28:05.000 He'll say, no, no, no, I want to know which people and what did they say?
00:28:07.000 Which is a completely fair question.
00:28:09.000 So there was a lot of that in this interview, and it was not a good look for Trump.
00:28:14.000 It had some of his typical kind of Trumpian foibles, you know, things that won't hurt him, but are not great.
00:28:19.000 So he was asked about John Lewis, for example.
00:28:20.000 This clip was going around yesterday.
00:28:21.000 He was asked about the late congressperson, who again was a very, very liberal Democrat.
00:28:25.000 I disagreed with John Lewis on a wide variety of policies.
00:28:29.000 But his early action in the civil rights movement is thoroughly heroic.
00:28:34.000 So Jonathan Swan asks Trump a perfectly predictable question about Lewis, because this was recorded last week and Lewis just died.
00:28:40.000 And Trump proceeds to basically say he didn't like John Lewis because Lewis didn't go to his inauguration.
00:28:45.000 Worth noting, Lewis did not go to George W. Bush's inauguration.
00:28:47.000 Bush gave a speech at his funeral.
00:28:49.000 OK, but here was Trump looking petty.
00:28:52.000 Is this a good look?
00:28:53.000 No.
00:28:53.000 Is it going to hurt him?
00:28:53.000 Not really.
00:28:54.000 But is this a good look?
00:28:55.000 No, it's not.
00:28:57.000 John Lewis is lying in state in the US Capitol.
00:29:00.000 How do you think history will remember John Lewis?
00:29:02.000 I don't know.
00:29:03.000 I really don't know.
00:29:04.000 I don't know.
00:29:05.000 I don't know John Lewis.
00:29:07.000 He chose not to come to my inauguration.
00:29:11.000 He chose... I don't... I never met John Lewis, actually.
00:29:15.000 I don't believe.
00:29:16.000 Um, what?
00:29:18.000 Okay, so that's a terrible answer.
00:29:20.000 That's number one, a terrible answer.
00:29:22.000 He didn't come to my inauguration, and that's the sole axis along which you judge somebody's entire body of work that seems wrong.
00:29:29.000 Okay, but that wasn't the real bad point.
00:29:30.000 The real bad point is, in a time of lack of understanding of COVID and how bad things are, you actually have to have some fluency with the fact.
00:29:37.000 Okay, and as I mentioned, when he was in this interview with Chris Wallace a couple of weeks ago, He pointed out that the United States actually has not performed all that badly in terms of COVID.
00:29:46.000 There are plenty of other countries, including the UK and France, that have performed significantly worse in terms of deaths per million.
00:29:51.000 The United States has ramped up testing beyond any other country by a long shot.
00:29:54.000 The United States is also a federalist system.
00:29:56.000 And the great failures in the United States generally happened very early on in New York, New Jersey, Connecticut.
00:30:01.000 They represent something like 35 to 40 percent of all deaths across the United States.
00:30:06.000 There are plenty of things that can be said.
00:30:07.000 The notion that Trump was not early enough on masks.
00:30:10.000 The conventional wisdom is still divided on masks is the truth.
00:30:12.000 Virtually everybody in Northern Europe does not wear a mask.
00:30:15.000 They're not even mask mandates in countries like Sweden, in countries like Finland, in countries like Holland.
00:30:21.000 They don't exist.
00:30:22.000 There's plenty of stuff for Trump to say here when he's asked about, what have you guys done?
00:30:25.000 What Trump could say is the federal government's job is basically a couple of things.
00:30:28.000 One, trying to achieve a vaccine.
00:30:29.000 Two, trying to shut down foreign travel.
00:30:31.000 And three, trying to ensure that everybody has the resources they need.
00:30:34.000 Otherwise, it's on the governors to determine what needs to be shut down and what needs to remain open.
00:30:38.000 And so if there's a local failure, blaming that on the federal government is a mistake.
00:30:42.000 Have I gotten everything right rhetorically?
00:30:43.000 No, but I think as information changed, I changed some of the things I was saying.
00:30:48.000 This is not all that difficult.
00:30:49.000 Instead, you get this, which, I mean, I'm sorry, this is just a Saturday Night Live sketch.
00:30:53.000 Here's Jonathan Swan asking about the deaths in the United States from COVID, and Trump basically just shuffling through papers, handing him a sheaf of charts, and then just being like, look at this chart, and Swan's like, I'm looking at the chart.
00:31:04.000 We'll just play the clip.
00:31:06.000 Oh, you're doing death as a proportion of cases.
00:31:08.000 I'm talking about death as a proportion of population.
00:31:10.000 That's where the U.S. 0.95
00:31:11.000 is really bad.
00:31:12.000 Much worse than South Korea, Germany, etc.
00:31:15.000 Why can't I do that?
00:31:15.000 You can't do that.
00:31:18.000 You have to go by where... Look, here is the United States.
00:31:22.000 You have to go by the cases.
00:31:23.000 The cases of death.
00:31:24.000 Why not as a proportion of population?
00:31:26.000 What it says is when you have somebody where there's a case, the people that live from those cases.
00:31:33.000 It's surely a relevant statistic to say if the U.S.
00:31:36.000 has X population and X percentage of death of that population versus South Korea.
00:31:41.000 No, because you have to go by the cases.
00:31:42.000 Well, look at South Korea, for example.
00:31:43.000 51 million population, 300 deaths.
00:31:46.000 It's like, it's crazy.
00:31:48.000 You don't know that.
00:31:49.000 You don't know that.
00:31:49.000 I do.
00:31:50.000 You think they're faking their statistics?
00:31:52.000 South Korea?
00:31:53.000 I won't get into that because I have a very good relationship with the country.
00:31:56.000 But you don't know that.
00:31:57.000 And they have spikes.
00:31:59.000 Germany, low 9,000.
00:32:01.000 Here's one right here, United States.
00:32:03.000 You take the number of cases.
00:32:04.000 Now look, we're last, meaning we're first.
00:32:07.000 I don't know what we're first in.
00:32:07.000 Last?
00:32:12.000 Yeah, man.
00:32:15.000 Okay, so a few problems here.
00:32:16.000 Again, there's so many things to say.
00:32:18.000 When Swan says, okay, South Korea has a very low number of cases, first of all, they didn't take China's protestations that the virus wasn't dangerous seriously, right?
00:32:27.000 They ignored China. 0.77
00:32:29.000 Two, they were never seeded with a heavy number of cases.
00:32:32.000 Three, they were infected with the Asian strain of the virus as opposed to the European strain of the virus.
00:32:36.000 There are a thousand things you could say about South Korea.
00:32:39.000 And when he talks about Germany, Germany was not heavily seeded with the virus.
00:32:42.000 Germany also has seen a worse economic downturn than the United States in the last quarter.
00:32:47.000 So why don't you look at France?
00:32:48.000 Why don't you look at the UK?
00:32:49.000 Why don't you look at Spain?
00:32:50.000 Why don't you look at Italy?
00:32:51.000 Again, there are a thousand things Trump could say here, but Trump doesn't have the fluency.
00:32:55.000 And some of that's the fault of his team that needs to inform him.
00:32:58.000 And some of that is the fact that you don't take interviews where you don't bother to do the prep, not with somebody like Swan.
00:33:05.000 So does any of this make it more likely that Trump is going to win election?
00:33:10.000 Right now, Joe Biden is just sitting there grinning to himself because he can be as dead as he wants to be.
00:33:14.000 That's going to be the title of Joe Biden's next autobiography.
00:33:17.000 Dead as I want to be. 0.97
00:33:18.000 You can just be like a corpse. 0.99
00:33:20.000 You can be like a barely animate corpse.
00:33:22.000 You know, being rolled around on a gurney.
00:33:25.000 Not do any debates, not pick a VP.
00:33:27.000 And as long as Trump does stuff like that, as long as his comm team rolls him out for stuff like that, it ain't gonna be good.
00:33:32.000 Just... There's such an opening here for a president capable of conveying information to the public.
00:33:38.000 And this is why when Trump was doing the early pressers on COVID, it was actually quite useful.
00:33:42.000 It was quite good.
00:33:42.000 He was on point.
00:33:44.000 But this was not the venue for him, and that is really going to hurt him.
00:33:47.000 Now, again, he's operating in a context in which the media hate his guts, in which people are trying to tear him down, in which they're frankly lying about the performance of the federal government.
00:33:55.000 Again, they keep saying the federal government failed.
00:33:57.000 Every single Democratic governor said, we asked for ventilators, we got ventilators.
00:34:00.000 We asked for testing, they ramped up the testing.
00:34:02.000 We asked for PPE, they ramped up the PPE.
00:34:04.000 Democratic governors from Whitmer to Cuomo to Newsom have all said this.
00:34:08.000 And the media don't report that because it doesn't go along with the narrative that this is all Trump's fault.
00:34:13.000 But Trump has to be better on defense.
00:34:15.000 He has to be better at defending himself.
00:34:16.000 And saying South Korea is lying about its stats ain't gonna cut it.
00:34:20.000 And meanwhile, Democrats are taking advantage of the situation in order to promote universal mail-in voting.
00:34:24.000 Again, it is amazing.
00:34:25.000 The media are just... I keep ripping on the media because this is a time when you would have to have faith in your institutions to bring you actual relevant information, but the media are so in the tank for the Democrats and for every Democratic platform position that they're just willing to ignore all available data.
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00:36:12.000 Democrats continuing to claim that universal mail-in voting is the solution, and the media echoing that, despite the fact that the data show this not only isn't a solution, it's a serious problem.
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00:37:42.000 Alrighty, so let's talk about mail-in voting.
00:37:51.000 So, the Democrats are now pushing voting by mail.
00:37:53.000 And the suggestion is, again, anti-science.
00:37:55.000 Okay, the suggestion is, just as with schools, they keep saying the schools must remain closed.
00:37:59.000 They must remain closed.
00:38:00.000 First of all, let me make clear.
00:38:01.000 I think there are a lot of teachers out there.
00:38:02.000 I got some emails on this yesterday.
00:38:03.000 I think there are a lot of teachers who want to teach.
00:38:05.000 A lot of young, healthy teachers who want to teach, and understand how essential they are in the lives of children, and are treating themselves as essential workers in the same way that essential workers treated themselves as essential workers.
00:38:16.000 We keep hearing teachers are essential workers.
00:38:18.000 Yes, the essential workers worked during the pandemic.
00:38:20.000 The essential workers went to work.
00:38:22.000 Teachers are essential enough.
00:38:23.000 They should also be going to work, just as cops went to work, just as firefighters went to work.
00:38:27.000 And let's be real about this.
00:38:28.000 Teachers are generally at less risk than our firefighters or cops or even Amazon workers in all likelihood, because they're dealing less with adults and more with children.
00:38:38.000 So, that is one area in which the media have just been utterly irresponsible in their coverage of the data.
00:38:43.000 Another area, we keep hearing that we need to vote by mail.
00:38:45.000 That if people have to wait in line to vote, this is going to cause massive spikes in COVID.
00:38:50.000 The evidence just ain't there.
00:38:51.000 It ain't.
00:38:52.000 The same media that will tell you that you can protest in the streets with millions of other people, with no mask, and breathe all over each other while shouting, and be safe as long as you are saying social justice warrior things, is telling us that if you stand in line, four feet behind another person, and then you go and vote, that you're going to die of COVID.
00:39:09.000 There's one problem.
00:39:09.000 This is not true.
00:39:10.000 It is simply not true.
00:39:13.000 According to the CDC, After 19,000 people voted in person in Milwaukee April 7th, which was the middle of the spike, 14 tested positive for the virus.
00:39:24.000 14 out of 19,000.
00:39:28.000 According to the CDC report from Milwaukee, there were no spikes in cases anywhere else in the state due to the election either.
00:39:34.000 According to Elizabeth Goodstitt, spokesperson for the Wisconsin Department of Health Services, 71 people who tested COVID-19 positive throughout the state after April 9th and developed symptoms before April 21st reported they voted in person or worked the polls on Election Day.
00:39:47.000 But several of those people reported other possible exposures as well.
00:39:50.000 So it's not accurate to say that the 71 cases were the result of in-person voting, because some of those infections probably came from other sources.
00:39:57.000 A total of 413,000 people voted in person statewide in Wisconsin April 7th.
00:40:02.000 Although a much smaller number of Wisconsinites participated in protest marches following the killing of George Floyd, Wisconsin officials are aware of 28 confirmed cases reported attending a protester rally during early June, during the two weeks before getting COVID-19.
00:40:16.000 So the notion that voting in Wisconsin was like a great threat to public health, it just was not true.
00:40:21.000 It just was not true.
00:40:22.000 But that doesn't matter.
00:40:23.000 Democrats are pushing mail-in voting.
00:40:24.000 Why?
00:40:24.000 Because Democrats love mail-in voting.
00:40:26.000 Mail-in voting combined with ballot harvesting gives them advantage in many different districts.
00:40:30.000 If you remember back to the 2018 election, the early reports in the night.
00:40:33.000 You can go back and watch our coverage.
00:40:34.000 We live-streamed it.
00:40:36.000 The early reports were that Democrats would have a good night, but it wasn't going to be a wave.
00:40:40.000 Then, over the course of the next 10 or 15 days, a bunch of late-breaking votes came in from California, thanks to ballot harvesting, and seven different congressional districts that had been Republican flipped to Democrats and it became a wave.
00:40:51.000 That was because of ballot harvesting. 0.95
00:40:53.000 Ballot harvesting is this idiotic, and what should be illegal practice, where you have third parties come and pick up your ballot for you that are not impartial. 0.98
00:40:59.000 So the Democratic Party sends out a person to pick up your ballot from you. 0.99
00:41:02.000 Which basically means that the better funded the party is, the more ballots they're going to be able to pick up.
00:41:07.000 They're going to ignore everybody else who didn't get the ballot off in time, but they make sure that your ballot gets in.
00:41:11.000 Also, if you hand them a blank ballot, they are a Democratic operative.
00:41:16.000 And by the way, you've seen the same thing even in, I think there's a district in North Carolina where something similar happened.
00:41:23.000 Voter fraud is a thing, okay?
00:41:25.000 To pretend that it does not exist and the possibility it does not exist counters a significant number of cases in which it's pretty clear that it has had a significant impact on America's future.
00:41:34.000 Most obviously when Al Franken basically stole a Senate seat from Norm Coleman in Minnesota after 350 ballots were discovered going for Al Franken in a car like a month after the election.
00:41:44.000 In any case, Nancy Pelosi says that voting by mail is a health issue. 0.98
00:41:47.000 Again, there's not evidence.
00:41:48.000 There's not evidence that if you stand in line and socially distance to vote that you have somehow Raised your risk dramatically of contracting the disease.
00:41:55.000 Here is Nancy Pelosi basically lying here. 0.99
00:42:00.000 Right now, even more important, because it is a health issue, people should not have to choose between jeopardizing their health with the coronavirus and being able to exercise their right to vote.
00:42:12.000 So again, you are not being asked to jeopardize your right to vote.
00:42:16.000 You can request an absentee ballot.
00:42:18.000 But the idea of universal mail-in balloting because of the pandemic, If you want confusion, you want insanity, definitely pursue this.
00:42:24.000 The post office is terrible. 0.51
00:42:25.000 Everybody understands the post office is garbage at its job when it comes to ensuring that things get there on time. 0.88
00:42:31.000 How many times have they lost things in the mail? 0.77
00:42:33.000 Like a lot, right?
00:42:34.000 How many times have, like, if you move to a different state, you'll probably still be forwarded a ballot from your home state.
00:42:40.000 Okay, that is a thing that will happen.
00:42:43.000 Can you imagine?
00:42:43.000 It'll take months to tabulate how these votes are going to go.
00:42:47.000 The House Oversight Committee, according to the AP, has invited the new Postmaster General to appear at a September hearing to examine operational changes at the Postal Service.
00:42:57.000 The plan imposed by Louis DeJoy, Republican fundraiser who took over the top job at the postal service in June, eliminates overtime for hundreds of thousands of postal workers and orders the mail be kept until the next day if postal distribution centers are running late.
00:43:11.000 Representative Carolyn Maloney, New York Democrat, said the September 17th hearing will focus on the need for on-time mail delivery during the ongoing pandemic and upcoming election.
00:43:20.000 Now, can you just imagine how bad this is going to be?
00:43:22.000 So Chuck Schumer, the Senate minority leader, he says the mail delivery must be timely.
00:43:27.000 I mean, has he lived in the United States with the post office for any prolonged period of time?
00:43:32.000 Stuff gets lost in the mail really, really regularly and is not supremely timely, which is why FedEx exists.
00:43:39.000 Here's Chuck Schumer basically tacitly acknowledging that the post office is not going to be able to do this.
00:43:45.000 We Democrats, Believe strongly that we have to have free and fair elections, that the mail must be delivered in a timely way because so many more people are going to vote by mail.
00:43:56.000 So many more polling places need to be set up because of COVID.
00:44:00.000 You can't be close together.
00:44:02.000 Okay, again, if you think the post office is going to solve this problem, good luck to you.
00:44:07.000 Mike Pence pointed out yesterday that you can still apply for an absentee ballot if you want, but mail-in, universal mail-in is ripe for fraud.
00:44:12.000 This is obviously true.
00:44:14.000 Jimmy Carter had basically suggested something like this 20 years ago.
00:44:16.000 Here was the vice president yesterday.
00:44:20.000 Let's be clear, though, Laura, absentee balloting is perfectly acceptable.
00:44:25.000 You have to apply for an absentee ballot.
00:44:28.000 Signatures are checked.
00:44:30.000 It's confirmed.
00:44:31.000 It has a long tradition.
00:44:33.000 And we want to encourage any American that is not able to go to the polling place for any reason to apply for an absentee ballot today.
00:44:40.000 But this universal mail-in voting where you're going to see literally ballots showered all across the state.
00:44:48.000 Uh, it just, it is right for fraud and we are headed straight to the courts to put a stop to it.
00:44:56.000 Definitely what would be best for the country is if we have a contested election in which we don't know the result for a month and nobody has confidence in the results.
00:45:03.000 And yet Democrats seem pretty sanguine about this.
00:45:05.000 James Clyburn, representative of South Carolina, says, listen, there'll be some fraud with almost anything.
00:45:08.000 Like nearly anything, there'll be fraud.
00:45:09.000 I mean, like, so who cares?
00:45:12.000 The president of the United States expressing his opinion about Mail-in voting.
00:45:20.000 It's not the facts.
00:45:22.000 The state of Washington has been doing this forever.
00:45:26.000 And they have found that there's almost no fraud.
00:45:30.000 You will have fraud in almost anything.
00:45:33.000 You know, fraud in almost anything is not an excuse for making it easier to commit fraud.
00:45:37.000 My favorite part of this is Joe Biden from his basement claiming that Trump is gonna try to claim the election is rigged.
00:45:42.000 Okay, we've now had several years, what, four years of Democrats claiming the 2016 election was rigged.
00:45:47.000 So, it'll be great.
00:45:48.000 Everybody will have no confidence in our public health system because we have no idea what's going on.
00:45:51.000 We will have no confidence in our electoral system because we have no idea how people are voting.
00:45:55.000 It's gonna take a month to figure this thing out.
00:45:57.000 Everything's gonna go great, guys.
00:45:58.000 It's all going to be fine.
00:45:59.000 Don't worry.
00:46:00.000 Everything is good.
00:46:01.000 Everything is good.
00:46:02.000 Meanwhile, if you want to make sure that we have no confidence in what happens going forward, the media coverage of particular ugly police incidents is not going to make anybody in the United States more sanguine.
00:46:15.000 I've been warning for months, by the way.
00:46:17.000 To take an example, I've been warning for months that the George Floyd prosecution, the prosecution of the officers in the George Floyd case, is likely to go sideways.
00:46:24.000 If you want to see Officer Derek Chauvin go to jail, then probably they should have filed for an assault charge.
00:46:30.000 He knelt on George Floyd's neck for eight minutes.
00:46:32.000 You can say that he was negligent.
00:46:34.000 You could try to make a third-degree homicide claim.
00:46:36.000 They're instead going for a first-degree homicide claim, I believe, a second-degree homicide.
00:46:40.000 Second-degree homicide, I think, is what they're going for, which requires an actual willingness to kill somebody.
00:46:47.000 There's no evidence.
00:46:48.000 The evidence on that is extraordinarily scanty.
00:46:51.000 You might be able to go for negligent homicide.
00:46:53.000 The tape demonstrates, however, that none of these guys thought that they were killing George Floyd or even thought they were being negligent about killing George Floyd.
00:47:01.000 So the reason this comes up is because yesterday the Daily Mail leaked more of the tape from the George Floyd arrest.
00:47:07.000 Like the minutes leading up to the eight minute tape that we've all seen, that horrible tape of Derek Chauvin kneeling on George Floyd's neck.
00:47:13.000 Okay, the media should have covered this responsibly from the beginning by including all the details because maybe that would have led to a non-overcharge.
00:47:20.000 There are a few things in the minutes leading up to George Floyd that the situation we've all seen with Derek Chauvin with his knee on George Floyd's neck.
00:47:27.000 There are a bunch of things in the minutes leading up that cut against the homicide case against Derek Chauvin.
00:47:33.000 Okay, so just to sum these up.
00:47:35.000 One, the police, when they arrest George Floyd, they tried to talk to him.
00:47:40.000 They tried to be nice to him.
00:47:41.000 They did this for many long minutes.
00:47:43.000 Second, there were other people in the car, which I was not aware of.
00:47:45.000 I didn't realize Floyd wasn't in the car alone.
00:47:47.000 And those other people didn't resist the cops, they didn't resist arrest, and they're fine.
00:47:52.000 They're standing off to the side, talking to the police, and they are completely fine.
00:47:56.000 Third, you'll hear in these clips that George Floyd is begging, begging not to be put in the car.
00:48:02.000 He says he would rather be on the ground than in the car.
00:48:05.000 And he is saying, I cannot breathe before he is even on the ground.
00:48:09.000 Now, this does mesh with the original state autopsy report, which suggested that the cause of death was not asphyxiation.
00:48:15.000 The problem with a homicide case is you have to prove proximate cause.
00:48:17.000 You have to prove that the cops actually caused his death.
00:48:21.000 But it seems a lot more like, at best, stress exacerbated an already bad medical situation.
00:48:26.000 When they arrived, he was not lucid.
00:48:28.000 When they arrived, he was already acting wild and claiming he could not breathe.
00:48:33.000 The reason I'm bringing this up is not to say that you should be allowed to kneel on somebody's neck for eight minutes.
00:48:37.000 The reason I'm saying this is because when the media do not cover these cases and include all of the fact pattern, what you end up with is a belief that these guys will definitely end up in jail.
00:48:45.000 And then it turns out that the fact pattern is a little more complicated and they may very well get off.
00:48:49.000 So if you liked the riots last time around, wait until the officers are acquitted because of the prosecutorial overcharge brought by AG Keith Ellison in Minnesota.
00:48:58.000 Here's a little bit of the tape that was released yesterday.
00:48:59.000 The media are not covering this tape because, again, it cuts against a lot of the case that's being made, namely that the officers knew that Floyd was dying and disregarded everything.
00:49:07.000 Again, he was claiming he could not breathe when he was sitting in the car, which suggests that when he claimed he couldn't breathe lying on the ground, they were going to take that with exactly the same level of seriousness.
00:49:15.000 Here's a little bit of the tape.
00:49:30.000 Let me see your other hand. Both hands.
00:49:33.000 I got shot the same way as the officer before.
00:49:35.000 Okay, well when I say let me see your hands, you put your hands off.
00:49:39.000 Okay, so he doesn't put his hands on the wheel, then he does, then once he does, the officer with his gun drawn puts the gun back down.
00:49:45.000 Step on the pavement.
00:49:47.000 Floyd is basically begging the officers in this table.
00:49:49.000 I mean, it's all terrible.
00:49:51.000 Floyd is begging the officers, I don't want to be hurt.
00:49:52.000 And they're saying, we're not going to hurt you.
00:49:54.000 Everything's fine.
00:49:55.000 And everything was fine until he resisted arrest, which does not justify the actions of the officers, but makes it much more difficult to claim premeditated murder, which is what they're trying to claim, basically.
00:50:04.000 Okay, then he says he doesn't want to get in the car.
00:50:07.000 He says, and they're saying to him, we'll open the window for you.
00:50:10.000 Are you saying we'll open the window for you?
00:50:11.000 We'll make sure that you can breathe?
00:50:13.000 Right, these are not the actions of officers who deeply do not care about George Floyd, at least up to the point where he's on the ground, right, and actively resisting arrest.
00:50:20.000 Here's a little bit more of the tape.
00:50:39.000 And I just had COVID, man!
00:50:40.000 windows down for him. He says I already have COVID. He's already claiming that he's gonna die before he even gets in the car because of claustrophobia and because he was in fact high on fentanyl according to the autopsy reports.
00:50:58.000 Again, the point here is not the officers did the right thing.
00:51:00.000 That's not the point at all.
00:51:01.000 The point is the media's irresponsible coverage of situations like this is going to lead to revelations in the jury trial that may end up with the acquittal of the officers.
00:51:08.000 So you should be made aware of this before you actually get to trial.
00:51:11.000 The media instead largely ignored this yesterday, which suggests that they are going to cover this in the same way they covered the Michael Brown trial.
00:51:17.000 They're going to suggest that Michael Brown was wrongly shot even when the evidence went the other way and then the officer ended up being exonerated.
00:51:25.000 Now in this case, George Floyd should not have been treated that way by the officers.
00:51:28.000 An assault charge was probably more justifiable on the grounds that have been put forward.
00:51:33.000 So this is Again, wonderful job by the media all around here.
00:51:40.000 Wonderful job by the media.
00:51:40.000 Okay, we'll be back here later today with two additional hours of content.
00:51:44.000 We will also see you here tonight for an all-access live.
00:51:47.000 In the meantime, go pick up a copy of my book, How to Destroy America in Three Easy Steps.
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00:52:22.000 President Trump appeals to the silent majority, Joe Biden's handlers want him to ditch the debates, and the Minneapolis Police Department release body cam footage of George Floyd.
00:52:33.000 We'll get into all of it.