The Ben Shapiro Show - THE TRUMP EFFECT: How To Win A War

00:00:00.000 The Israeli cabinet has approved President Trump's Gaza plan and hostage release deal.

00:00:04.000 Bring you all the details.

00:00:05.000 We'll ask why is it that all of those anti-genocide protesters, activists, they're suddenly totally silent.

00:00:10.000 Why?

00:00:11.000 It's very strange.

00:00:12.000 We'll talk about how the West can actually win wars, led by great leaders like President Trump.

00:00:17.000 And yes, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in Israel.

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00:02:14.000 Alrighty, folks.

00:02:14.000 So as of Friday morning, the Israeli cabinet has now approved an agreement to stop the war in Gaza.

00:02:20.000 That of course is an agreement that is a stage one agreement in which Israel pulls back to a predefined border that is not the full borders of Gaza, because Israel retains security overwatch over a majority of the Gaza Strip.

00:02:32.000 The 20 live hostages come out.

00:02:34.000 The 28 dead hostages are also supposed to come out all within 72 hours of a ceasefire that went into place last night.

00:02:41.000 Hamas is claiming that this is the quote unquote end of the war, that it's going to be guaranteed by the United States.

00:02:47.000 The United States is saying that it could be the end of the war if Hamas were to disarm, if Hamas were to actually hand over governance of the strip to somebody who is not Hamas.

00:02:57.000 So the bottom line is stage one is the part that is on the books.

00:03:00.000 Stage two, we'll see what happens next.

00:03:02.000 I think people are optimistic.

00:03:04.000 We'll see if that optimism is justified.

00:03:06.000 It is worth noting, by the way, that the decision by the Israeli cabinet last night did include all of the apparently terrible right-wing parties who were going to topple the government in order to scuttle the deal, and who have been the great warmongers, according to the legacy media.

00:03:20.000 The government did not, in fact, topple some of the members of the cabinet who are from the more right-wing parties, the Smothrich and Ben Gavir parties, they didn't vote in favor of the deal, but they also didn't walk out on the government.

00:03:31.000 So the government maintains its majority, and Netanyahu's coalition government in Israel retains its power.

00:03:36.000 According to Axios, the agreement calls for an initial Israeli withdrawal from Gaza.

00:03:41.000 Now, again, not from all of Gaza, from part of Gaza, that predetermined yellow line, we've shown you the map before, and the release of nearly two thousand Palestinian prisoners and detainees.

00:03:50.000 By the way, in the future, Israel is going to have to radically rethink how it treats hostage situations because it cannot continue to simply release thousands upon thousands of terrorists and murderers in exchange for hostages taken by terrorists and murderers.

00:04:04.000 That is a bad policy.

00:04:06.000 And at some point in the future it's going to have to stop.

00:04:08.000 Obviously, now is not that moment.

00:04:09.000 Israel wants its hostages back. 0.50

00:04:11.000 Those people have been in captivity, held in tunnels, probably nearly starved to death.

00:04:15.000 And there are reports that the Red Cross had to inform Hamas that in advance of release of these hostages, they should not overfeed the hostages because it might kill them.

00:04:24.000 That's what happens in extreme starvation scenarios.

00:04:26.000 If you feed people a pita a day, which is essentially what the hostages are being fed, according to Elie Shirabi, a former hostage.

00:04:34.000 Then you can't just give them a full meal.

00:04:36.000 It could actually kill them.

00:04:37.000 That's how badly treated the hostages have been kept in terror tunnels, if not murdered outright by Hamas.

00:04:43.000 The deal was signed by Israel Hamas and the Qatari Egyptian and Turkish mediators on Thursday.

00:04:47.000 It needed the approval of Israel's cabinet to proceed.

00:04:51.000 President Trump's envoy Steve Whitkoff and Jared Kushner joined the cabinet meeting alongside Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

00:04:57.000 And there was a frank discussion that happened between all of the members of the cabinet and Whitkoff and Kushner, a productive conversation because in the end the cabinet voted in favor of the deal.

00:05:07.000 Israel is going to release some 250 Palestinian prisoners who are serving life sentences after being convicted of killing Israelis.

00:05:14.000 It's a jailbreak on behalf of terrorists and murderers.

00:05:17.000 Some of the worst terrorists and murderers that Israel has in its prisons.

00:05:20.000 They'll either be released into Gaza or they will go into exile in other Arab and Muslim countries. 0.99

00:05:25.000 Hamas is saying it needs more time to locate all the bodies of the dead hostages.

00:05:29.000 Israel is saying that's probably false.

00:05:32.000 According to the agreement, Israel, the United States, Egypt, Turkey, and Qatar will form a task force to locate the bodies that Hamas says that it cannot find.

00:05:40.000 So Hamas is trying to claim that this is a victory.

00:05:42.000 It obviously is not a victory.

00:05:43.000 It was Hamas forced to the table by the presidents of the United States, by the Israeli military, which was days away from finishing off Gaza City in terms of its military control of Gaza City, which was the last sort of Hamas bastion.

00:05:56.000 It was pressure from Qatar and Turkey that was promoted by the president of the United States.

00:06:02.000 So, again, the deal brings a significant pause in the fighting.

00:06:06.000 Whether it is the final pause, that will be determined by Hamas by what happens next.

00:06:11.000 Obviously, America, its allies, Israel, they all would love this to be the end of the war, and they would love a transitional government to take power in the Gaza Strip and thus allow the Gaza Strip to flourish as President Trump has talked about.

00:06:25.000 Whether that happens or not is still up in the air.

00:06:28.000 Yesterday, President Trump personally called many of the hostage families to inform them that their family members were coming home.

00:06:35.000 Here was some of the footage.

00:06:37.000 This is amazing.

00:06:39.000 Mr. President, we believe in you.

00:06:42.000 We know you've done so much for us over the past since you became a president, and even before that.

00:06:47.000 And we trust you'll fulfill the mission until every hostage, every 48 of the hostages are home.

00:06:54.000 Thank you so much.

00:06:55.000 Let it be the peacemakers.

00:06:56.000 God bless you, Mr. President.

00:06:58.000 God bless America.

00:06:59.000 You just take care of yourselves.

00:07:01.000 The hostages will come back.

00:07:02.000 They're coming all coming back on Monday.

00:07:07.000 Monday, of course, Monday evening, March, Simchat Torah, which is, in fact, the exact two-year anniversary of the beginning of this war on the Jewish calendar, which is unbelievable timing. 0.54

00:07:18.000 President Trump yesterday, he said the people are loving Israel again, that he's performed a PR Jiu-Jitsu, and there's some truth to that. 0.80

00:07:23.000 Because the president brokered an end to the war that achieved Israel's signal goals, including the defenestration of Hamas as a power in the region, the release of all the hostages at once. 0.50

00:07:34.000 Remember, everybody's sort of taking it for granted that this sort of deal would have happened a year ago or two years ago.

00:07:40.000 Absolute sheer nonsense.

00:07:42.000 Absolute nonsense.

00:07:43.000 There are many deals that were proposed along the way.

00:07:46.000 All of them involved Hamas openly retaining power in the Gaza Strip and a partial release of the hostages.

00:07:52.000 The only deal that Hamas had put on the table to this point was a full pull out from the Gaza Strip by the Israeli military in exchange for the hostages.

00:07:59.000 That is in fact not what is happening.

00:08:01.000 And Hamas has lost its entire base of outside support at this point, thanks to President Trump.

00:08:06.000 Here's President Trump talking about this last night.

00:08:09.000 It's brought the whole world together.

00:08:11.000 It's amazing.

00:08:12.000 I've never seen anything.

00:08:13.000 It's so good for Israel.

00:08:14.000 I spoke to Bibi Netanyahu just a little while ago.

00:08:17.000 He called, he said, I can't believe it.

00:08:19.000 He said, Everybody's liking me now.

00:08:22.000 Meaning him.

00:08:23.000 He said, uh I said that more importantly, they're loving Israel again.

00:08:27.000 And they really are.

00:08:28.000 They've it's uh I said Israel cannot fight the world, baby. 1.00

00:08:32.000 They can't fight the world.

00:08:35.000 Well, and again, the truth is that Israel did effectively fight the world for two years, given the fact that the world decided to buy into all of the Hamas propaganda about genocide, about starvation, about targeting of journalists, and all of the rest. 0.67

00:08:49.000 And Netanyahu stood strong.

00:08:50.000 There's a tendency over here in Israel, and again, I'm over here for the Jewish holidays, which is it's gonna be amazing.

00:08:56.000 I will say, President Trump is supposed to come on Monday, and this country is going to explode In support for President Trump.

00:09:01.000 I mean, everyone is already preparing.

00:09:03.000 I I think there will be legitimately hundreds of thousands of people greeting President Trump when he comes to Israel on Monday to speak before the Israeli parliament and signal the release of the hostages.

00:09:16.000 There's been a sort of peculiar move, both domestically and abroad to say that it was all President Trump as opposed to some BB Netanyahu. 0.65

00:09:23.000 And that of course is ridiculous.

00:09:24.000 President Trump is an incredibly historic actor, and we'll discuss in a moment all the things he did to make all of this possible. 0.95

00:09:31.000 But to pretend that Prime Minister Netanyahu is somehow external to this entire conversation is silly. 0.98

00:09:38.000 It's absolutely silly.

00:09:41.000 President Trump went on to say that there will be demilitarization in Gaza, which of course is the broader goal here beyond the release of the hostages.

00:09:48.000 I'm not going to talk about that because uh you sort of know what phase two is, but we will there will be disarming, there will be pullbacks.

00:09:55.000 There will be a lot of things that are happening.

00:09:57.000 You know, I gave you a whole list of twenty two different things that will have uh will take place.

00:10:02.000 Uh and I think it'll take place, and I think you can end up with peace in the Middle East, but we have to get our hostages back.

00:10:08.000 President Trump also pointed out, he was asked about the so-called two-state solution, the idea that there would be a Palestinian state.

00:10:14.000 And he said, listen, I have no opinion on this.

00:10:16.000 This is gonna have to be negotiated between the parties, which is the proper answer to that question, given the fact that the Oslo Accords, which was an attempt to generate a two-state solution with terror leaders on the Palestinian side, turned out to be one of the great fiascos in all of Middle Eastern history.

00:10:31.000 Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State yesterday, he explained the hard work that President Trump put into this, and there's no question that President Trump's incredible work here.

00:10:40.000 The Nobel Prize Committee is a joke, but Trump certainly deserved the Nobel Peace Prize.

00:10:46.000 I think what's important to understand is that yesterday what happened was really a human story.

00:10:50.000 There's a geopolitical aspect to it, there's no doubt about it.

00:10:53.000 It creates the conditions for Gaza to one day be a normal place again and people to have a better life in Israelis to be safe.

00:11:00.000 But yesterday was a human story.

00:11:02.000 And because of the work you put in, and honestly, there is no not only is there no other leader in the world that could have put this together, Mr. President, but frankly, I don't know of any American president in the modern era that could have made this possible.

00:11:13.000 Because of the actions you have taken unrelated to this, and because of who you are and what you've done and how you're viewed.

00:11:19.000 And this weekend, because of that, at some point very soon we are going to see 20 living human beings emerge from the darkness and to the light for the first time in two years.

00:11:29.000 And that is because not only were you you you used the credibility and the power and the prestige of this office and the relationship you created, and you committed yourself to making it happen, and I think it will go down as a historic moment um in the history of our country, and something our country should be very proud of.

00:11:46.000 No question about that.

00:11:47.000 American ambassador to Israel Mike Huckabee also talked yesterday about this.

00:11:51.000 He pointed out that President Trump brought everyone together.

00:11:53.000 There were a lot of people at the embassy that did a lot of just groundwork, but the real key is President Trump.

00:11:59.000 He's the one that made this happen.

00:12:00.000 Certainly uh envoys Whitkoff and Jared Kushner were a very big part of sealing the deal, bringing it together.

00:12:08.000 But this would never have happened without the leadership of President Trump.

00:12:11.000 He brought people together that no one thought would ever sit together, talk, and come to an agreement.

00:12:18.000 And it's really a remarkable day.

00:12:20.000 And I'll tell you there is a great sigh of relief being heaved throughout Israel today, because this is a day that everyone here has been praying to happen for two solid years.

00:12:32.000 Okay, and he is certainly right about that.

00:12:34.000 Jared Kushner said yesterday, apparently, according to Channel 14, quote I really want to say that none of this would have been possible without the heroism of the IDF and the soldiers, what they accomplished not only in Gaza, but also across the entire arena over the past two years, and eliminating Hezbollah in the north and significantly weakening it, and also in what you did to Iran.

00:12:50.000 All of this created a huge impact, especially when you see how your citizen army, I know that for many of you, maybe all of you, you have family members and friends who took part in this effort, sacrificed enormous losses for the country and fought to bring about change.

00:13:01.000 I think it truly made a tremendous difference.

00:13:02.000 I want to express a very special thanks to Prime Minister Netanyahu, who did an outstanding job on this matter and conducted the negotiations in a particularly impressive manner.

00:13:09.000 You stood by your principles, and I think you and President Trump saw eye to eye on the ultimate goal.

00:13:14.000 All right, coming up, I want to talk about how it is possible to actually win a war, because we are watching in real time as a war against Islamic extremism is actually won. 0.54

00:13:23.000 A war with specific end goals that was achieved.

00:13:26.000 How did that happen?

00:13:26.000 We'll get to that.

00:13:27.000 Plus, why are all these supposed anti genocide activists So sour, so salty about a deal that supposedly ends a pseudo genocide.

00:13:34.000 We'll get to that first.

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00:15:46.000 Again, I think that the most important thing here for the West, not just for Israel, for the West, is that it is possible, in fact, to win wars.

00:15:55.000 I've spent my entire lifetime watching the United States and the West lose wars, or at least not win wars.

00:16:02.000 Initial victory, followed by gradual defeat.

00:16:06.000 Or bizarre interventionism without the full force and weight and commitment necessary to carry it through.

00:16:13.000 What President Trump is showing here, what Prime Minister Nanyahu showed in Israel is that it is in fact possible to win wars.

00:16:19.000 Because let's be real about the timeline here.

00:16:22.000 On October 7th, 2023, the genocidal terror group Hamas invaded Israel's borders and killed 1,200 Israelis, mostly Jewish, and abducted 250 Israelis and took them back to their terror tunnel hell holes. 0.71

00:16:33.000 And those tunnels, as well as Hamas's vast arsenal of rockets, grenades, small arms, had been built up over the course of 20 years with the support and funding of nations in the region, including Iran, Qatar, and Turkey.

00:16:44.000 And if you remember, all the way back two years ago, Israel did not just face down Hamas. 0.61

00:16:49.000 There was the serious possibility that Hezbollah was going to enter the war on the same day.

00:16:53.000 In fact, what they did is they started shooting and small rocket attacks at the beginning that gradually escalating.

00:16:59.000 And Hezbollah, according to the military experts, was a similarly genocidal and far better armed Iranian terror proxy in Lebanon. 0.52

00:17:07.000 They had hundreds of thousands of rockets, tens of thousands of which were armed with targeting technology.

00:17:12.000 I mean, again, the speculation among military types is that if Israel had to go to war with Hezbollah, tens of thousands of Israelis could die in rocket attacks into Israel.

00:17:22.000 In fact, over the course of the next few months, Israel's entire north had to be emptied of civilians due to those barrages of drones and rockets sent from Lebanese territory.

00:17:32.000 I know people who were wounded at Israel's northern border on the Israeli side of the border during that time.

00:17:38.000 Israel also faced down a continuing terror threat from Hamas and Islamic Jihad in Judea and Samaria, the so-called West Bank.

00:17:44.000 Syria, which was being used as a thoroughfare for Iranian arms for Hezbollah.

00:17:49.000 Iranian-backed Iraqi terror groups, the Houthis in Yemen, and of course the Iranian government directly, which wasn't merely spreading terrorism, but also running speed running, a nuclear weapons program.

00:17:59.000 That's where things stood two years ago.

00:18:01.000 And two years later, the world of the Middle East has turned totally upside down.

00:18:06.000 Israel has completely decimated Hamas, killing its entire, entire top leadership from Gaza all the way to Iran.

00:18:13.000 Israel has destroyed Hezbollah's efficacy and killed its terror master, Hassan at Nazrallah. 0.74

00:18:18.000 Its attacks on Khezbollah were so effective, the Assad regime in Syria completely collapsed because Hezbollah was holding up Assad, and it was really the Turks who sort of pushed over to the regime by backing the terror group HTS.

00:18:30.000 Judea and Samaria have been quieted by the work of the IDF during this time.

00:18:34.000 Iranian proxies in Iraq went silent as well because of the IAF, the Israeli Air Force.

00:18:39.000 The Houthis in Yemen are sort of the one remaining outstanding enemy, and they've been bombed thoroughly.

00:18:45.000 They're a nuisance, but they are not an existential threat to Israel.

00:18:47.000 And Iran's nuclear program, the greatest existential threat to Israel, has been set back years, if not decades, thanks to the courage of the Israeli Air Force, and of course, a timely, brave intervention from President Trump and an amazing mission flown by the American Air Force.

00:19:01.000 And now President Trump has brokered an amazing deal.

00:19:04.000 Truly is unthinkable, a deal that was not thinkable.

00:19:07.000 The release of the final 20 live Israeli hostages all at once.

00:19:09.000 Again, the speculation was that Hamas would bleed out the hostages.

00:19:13.000 They would release five, then at least two, they would broker for ceasefires, lasting a longer and longer period of time, opening them up to rearmament.

00:19:20.000 Israel would have to pull all the way back to the borders of the Gaza Strip.

00:19:23.000 That was the supposition.

00:19:24.000 And instead, this deal is final 20 live hostages released, all the remaining bodies released.

00:19:29.000 Israel maintains a secure posture in the Gaza Strip itself, a transitional plan toward a non-Hamas future in Gaza, supported by regional allies, including countries that one moment ago were sending cash and weapons into the Gaza Strip for Hamas to use, like Qatar and Turkey.

00:19:47.000 The possibility of future Abraham Accords with countries like Saudi and Indonesia are now on the table. 0.56

00:19:51.000 So here is the question for the West.

00:19:53.000 Here's the question.

00:19:54.000 How is it that this war was won?

00:19:57.000 Because it's hard to win wars. 1.00

00:19:59.000 Well, the answer is the conventional wisdom was stupid and it has been stupid for decades. 1.00

00:20:05.000 And the decision makers here are out of the box thinkers. 1.00

00:20:09.000 Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in Israel.

00:20:11.000 He is somebody who truly understands the nature of the Middle East and Middle Eastern history.

00:20:16.000 But President Trump is the real difference maker here because President Trump decided that America would no longer just go along with the 80-year-old slogans promoted by the Arabists at the State Department. 0.51

00:20:28.000 The conventional wisdom was that military action does not guarantee security in the Middle East.

00:20:32.000 That is a lie.

00:20:33.000 It was always a lie.

00:20:34.000 It was always catastrophically wrong.

00:20:36.000 In fact, every time Israel has provided for its own security, it was not through predominantly a peace deal.

00:20:41.000 It was a peace deal after a victory.

00:20:43.000 It was a deal after a victory.

00:20:45.000 The Camp David Accords between Egypt and Israel only came after Israel repeatedly defeated Egypt in war in 48 and 56 in 67 and again in 73.

00:20:57.000 The removal of Jordan as an overt threat happened after Israel won its war for independence in 1948 and then again in 1967 after it won the six-day war.

00:21:08.000 It was at that point the Jordanian monarchy decided hey, we're out, we're not interested.

00:21:12.000 The Syrian threat was eliminated after 1973 without an actual peace deal, with basically a say a stalemate happening on the other side of the Golan Heights.

00:21:24.000 Military action is the only guarantor of support and security in the Middle East.

00:21:31.000 It was military action that removed every supporting pillar beneath Hamas's feet.

00:21:35.000 Remember, it wasn't just that all of these forces that I talked about a moment ago were acting in coordination to attack Israel.

00:21:41.000 They were all providing the support base for Hamas. 0.96

00:21:45.000 The conventional wisdom said the United States ought to play a weird neutral role between Israel and its genocidal enemies.

00:21:51.000 You saw this from Joe Biden.

00:21:52.000 Kamala Harris talks like this all the time.

00:21:54.000 Bill Clinton tried it until he realized that Yasser Arafat was totally uninterested in peace.

00:21:59.000 But this was the conventional wisdom was that sure Israel was a strong ally of the United States, but America had to play honest broker between Israel and the Palestinians. 0.98

00:22:08.000 And it turns out that that was not just wrong, it was idiotically wrong. 0.93

00:22:11.000 The Trump administration openly supported the IDF. 0.98

00:22:14.000 They openly provided the weapons, they openly provided the rhetorical support for Israel to win. 0.65

00:22:19.000 And it was that that led to Hamas giving up the ghost and to Hamas's allies realizing that actually Israel was not going to be forced to simply accept the risk of its own survival.

00:22:31.000 The conventional wisdom said that if you threatened to kill terror leaders abroad, that would be conflagrationist and terrible.

00:22:37.000 That too was wrong.

00:22:38.000 Israel killed terror masters in Iran itself, in Tehran, Israel killed Ismail Khaniya, the leader, the political leader of Hamas.

00:22:47.000 And of course, it was the strike in Qatar that actually led to Qatar and Turkey deciding to press for Hamas's ouster because basically what happened there is that Israel notified the United States.

00:22:56.000 Israel then hit inside Qatar, striking out at Hamas's leadership.

00:23:00.000 They missed, but the message was made clear, which was that Israel would be willing to do that again. 0.71

00:23:04.000 In fact, the Prime Minister and all of his cabinet members said the exact same thing.

00:23:09.000 And then the president said, okay, you know what?

00:23:11.000 We'll come in, we'll give a security guarantee to Qatars that this doesn't happen again. 0.92

00:23:14.000 But we need you to end this war. 0.56

00:23:16.000 We need you to work with Turkey to stop all of this. 1.00

00:23:19.000 Sure, we're willing to consider F 35s for Turkey, but only if Turkey is willing to work with Qatar to pressure Hamas. 0.69

00:23:26.000 It was a carrot and sticks approach led by President Trump.

00:23:29.000 President Trump understands the Middle East better than all the so-called experts.

00:23:34.000 And by the way, far better than both the supposed neocons, you know, the people who are, quote, you know, total interventionist democracy in the Middle East.

00:23:42.000 Trump is not one of those.

00:23:43.000 But he understands it also better than the isolationists in his own party, who wanted to reject Trump's tempered and rational peace through strength in favor of what might be called cowardice through catastrophism.

00:23:53.000 The idea that World War III is lurking behind every corner, despite the fact that President Trump is the most rational purveyor of American force in modern American history.

00:24:03.000 There was no shot there was gonna be World War III with one B2 sorty over Iran. 1.00

00:24:08.000 That was not going to happen.

00:24:09.000 There is no shot that World War III was going to break out because Trump was backing the IDF's capacity to destroy Hamas in the Gaza Strip.

00:24:17.000 That was not going to happen.

00:24:18.000 The catastrophism was nonsense.

00:24:21.000 It was nonsense from the beginning.

00:24:24.000 Prime Minister Netanyahu, who soldiered through withering criticism, withering criticism, both at home and abroad, of course, for the great crime of seeking victory over those who would destroy his country, deserves credit here.

00:24:34.000 Huge credit, obviously, as Jerry Kushner says, to the Israeli people who mobilized in an unprecedented way to defend their nation and their civilization.

00:24:41.000 We're talking about 45-year-old guys leaving four kids at home and their business to go fight in Gaza in the Miloim.

00:24:47.000 Those are the call-ups, the reserves.

00:24:48.000 And of course, huge props to the American people who provided Israel the support it needed to win, both in terms of material and mostly by making the right decision and electing Donald J. Trump president of the United States.

00:25:00.000 So thanks to the voters of Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, thank you to all of those voters.

00:25:06.000 It turns out that victory over genocidal enemies is indeed possible.

00:25:11.000 What it requires is a smart strategy that bucks the conventional wisdom and a desire to win and a willingness to win.

00:25:18.000 And the perspicacity to dismiss people who promote either a starry-eyed millenarianism in which everybody's going to break into democracy today, or a benighted conventional wisdom that fails every single time it's tried.

00:25:31.000 So believe it or not, some Democrats are actually responding well to President Trump's plan.

00:25:36.000 Others, as you'll imagine, are not doing as well.

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00:27:54.000 Now, meanwhile, there are some Democrats who actually have been making the right sounds about all of this.

00:27:59.000 John Fetterman, you would expect to make the right sounds, and he has the senator from Pennsylvania who's been shockingly good on a wide variety of issues, actually.

00:28:06.000 Here he was yesterday celebrating President Trump's diplomatic victory following the Israeli military victory.

00:28:13.000 Do you think the president deserves a Nobel Peace Prize?

00:28:17.000 Well, I mean, if if this sticks, uh I think that the whole point of having a uh Nobel Peace Prize is for ending wars and promoting peace.

00:28:27.000 And I'm gonna make a direct appeal to the president.

00:28:30.000 You know, I I hope he chooses to provide the tomahawks to the Ukrainians too and give them the tools that they need to push back against Russia. 0.94

00:28:38.000 And if he brings the Ukrainian war to its end, I'll be the Democrat leading uh the committee for his uh Nobel Prize peace for ending both of these terrible wars. 0.51

00:28:51.000 Okay, so again, he happens to be correct about that.

00:28:54.000 Hakeem Jeffries, the House minority leader, he came out and said this was a step in the right direction.

00:29:00.000 Again, Democrats are sort of dipping their toe into the water of rationality here.

00:29:04.000 Uh it's a very, very positive step uh in the right direction.

00:29:08.000 We're all hopeful uh that this agreement will be finalized, that the hostages will be released in a matter of days and returned home to their loved ones.

00:29:18.000 Of course, that we can surge humanitarian assistance into Gaza to alleviate the pain and suffering that Palestinian civilians have been experiencing in a theater of war for the last two years, and that we can achieve not just a ceasefire, but a pathway toward a just and lasting peace for both Israel and the Palestinian people.

00:29:39.000 Representative Dan Goldman, who, of course, is a Democrat, in fact, a Democrat who's involved in the impeachment of President Trump, he admits Joe Biden did not actually get any pressure from Qatar or Turkey.

00:29:50.000 This, of course, is true. 0.99

00:29:52.000 Then the fact is that that Joe Biden was not willing to do all of the things that I just talked about that Trump did.

00:29:59.000 Provide open and clear support, both rhetorically and in terms of unmitigated weaponry to the Israelis to win the war.

00:30:06.000 He did not provide Israel with the capacity to do the things it had to do militarily.

00:30:12.000 He tried to play quote unquote honest broker.

00:30:14.000 He tried to slow walk his left wing.

00:30:16.000 And he didn't pressure Qatar or Turkey to actually end the war in any serious way.

00:30:21.000 Here is Representative Goldman admitting that.

00:30:24.000 I I think the the biggest problem that the President Biden had is there was no pressure from Qatar, from Turkey, from Egypt.

00:30:36.000 They were actually facilitating in many ways what was going on.

00:30:40.000 And that is really ultimately how it all came together.

00:30:44.000 I mean, but that but I think by saying that it's sort of an acknowledgement, Trump has changed that dynamic.

00:30:48.000 Yeah, no, I think that I mean he's clearly.

00:30:51.000 I don't know how he, you know, uh and I think there's a lot that remains to learn about what prompted that change, but I do agree, yes.

00:31:01.000 I mean, again, the the thing that prompted that change is President Trump actually applying pressure and Joe Biden not doing that.

00:31:07.000 In much the same way that there are people who are saying that Trump was sort of just a tool of the Qataris, but Joe Biden was actually going to be the one who stood up.

00:31:14.000 Well, it turns out you remember that they said that Donald Trump was the tool of the Russians, but it was Joe Biden who is the guy who's presiding when there was an invasion of Ukraine.

00:31:23.000 The conventional wisdom tends to get it wrong an awful lot.

00:31:25.000 Even some of the legacy media are acknowledging that that President Trump did something unbelievable here.

00:31:30.000 The Washington Post, David Ignatius admitted that Trump accomplished sure what no one else could have.

00:31:35.000 The deal that President Trump is announcing, uh, played a key part in in negotiating is a significant change.

00:31:43.000 This war was blocked for two years.

00:31:46.000 President Biden, who preceded him was unable to find a way to stop it.

00:31:50.000 President Trump found that found that way by being tough on both sides.

00:31:56.000 He'll take uh victory lap for sure over the next few days.

00:32:00.000 But uh it's it's it's deserved.

00:32:02.000 There's no way that I can see that this would have been done without Trump's pressure in the final hours.

00:32:09.000 Hey, again, when you got the legacy media acknowledging that Trump did something right, you know he did something pretty incredible here.

00:32:15.000 Meanwhile, ABC's Martha Raditz acknowledges this is a remarkable achievement.

00:32:19.000 Tell us about the role President Trump played in and bringing all of this about.

00:32:23.000 Well, Robin, there's no question that if this goes as planned, if we see those remaining hostages freed and Israel begin its withdrawal, it is a remarkable achievement, and President Trump most certainly deserves credit for his role.

00:32:36.000 He has done this through diplomacy, pressure, and the sheer force of his personality and persistence.

00:32:42.000 He dispatched diplomats again and again, made threats just in the last few days to Hamas, saying, again, if they did not sign the deal, all hell would break loose.

00:32:51.000 And they had the bombing of Iran as an example of that.

00:32:55.000 But perhaps most importantly, he pushed Benjamin Netanyahu in ways his predecessor and others have not, Robin. 0.86

00:33:02.000 Okay, that that last part is just so ridiculous.

00:33:04.000 The idea that Trump was pushing Netanyahu harder than Biden is totally insane. 0.99

00:33:09.000 Like totally crazy.

00:33:10.000 Totally crazy.

00:33:11.000 But the rest of it she's got right.

00:33:14.000 The fact is the president and the prime minister work very closely together.

00:33:17.000 I know there are a bunch of people who want to leak to Barack Ravid, every bad thing about Netanyahu, and Barack Ravida de Axios is perfectly happy to print all of it.

00:33:24.000 But then the president comes out routinely and debunks all of it.

00:33:28.000 In any case, the overall, the overall there is correct.

00:33:32.000 That it was the last two years of military force that that pushed over all of the dominoes that led to this moment, brokered by President Trump.

00:33:40.000 CNN's Abby Phillip, she says, listen, when it comes to the rebuilding of Gaza, maybe Trump can do it.

00:33:45.000 I mean, but do you think President Trump is somebody who can actually credibly rebuild?

00:33:52.000 I mean, he he just frankly likes building.

00:33:55.000 And it might be uh a kind of absurd thought that but in a way, I mean, this is going to be a rebuilding project.

00:34:02.000 Uh not not just perhaps some kind of nation building, society building, but like physically rebuilding the complete and utter devastation of Gaza.

00:34:12.000 Trump actually really wants to be involved in that, and maybe he's the right person.

00:34:18.000 So, again, even members of the media recognizing the magic of Trump in this particular region of the world.

00:34:23.000 CNN's Jeremy Diamond says this is an enormous moment for the region, and and it absolutely is.

00:34:28.000 And the possibility of opening up further negotiations brokered by President Trump, a world has opened up in the Middle East in which Iran does not bestride the region.

00:34:36.000 It is more like Israel and the United States and its allies bestriding the region.

00:34:40.000 A world has opened up in which the Palestinian issue does not threaten the rest of the region's peace, stability, and economic development.

00:34:48.000 That is a Trumpian world.

00:34:50.000 It just is.

00:34:51.000 Here is CNN's Jeremy Diamond.

00:34:53.000 Yeah, I just need to underscore what an enormous moment this is for so many people in this region, for the people of Gaza who have endured two years of war, for the families of these 48 remaining hostages who have endured two years of absolute agony.

00:35:08.000 Uh, this is a watershed moment of President Trump announcing that the first phase of this plan will indeed move forward.

00:35:17.000 Okay, so again, it is an amazing, amazing moment for the region.

00:35:20.000 Now, I do have a question.

00:35:22.000 Where are all the people who kept yelling about genocide?

00:35:25.000 Where did they go?

00:35:26.000 Like, seriously, where did they go?

00:35:27.000 Because all the people who are screaming about genocide now, a deal is on the table that stops all of this, that frees hostages, that stops the bombing campaign in Gaza, that rolls back the Israeli military presence to decide it upon line.

00:35:41.000 And they've all gone, they've all ghosted the internet.

00:35:43.000 They're gone.

00:35:44.000 They disappeared.

00:35:45.000 Poof, they're just gone.

00:35:46.000 It's kind of amazing.

00:35:48.000 Now, you would imagine that if you spent two years fighting against an actual genocide, not a fake genocide like what's happening in Gaza, which is not by any stretch of the imagination or any definition ever a genocide.

00:35:58.000 But imagine that you were fighting like a Real genocide, like the Rwandan genocide.

00:36:01.000 And a deal happened to stop the genocide.

00:36:04.000 And then all the people who were fighting to stop it just disappeared.

00:36:09.000 They didn't say anything.

00:36:09.000 They didn't celebrate.

00:36:10.000 They didn't say this is a good thing.

00:36:11.000 They didn't give credit.

00:36:12.000 They didn't try to, like nothing.

00:36:14.000 They just go totally silent.

00:36:15.000 What might that tell you about those people?

00:36:17.000 I mean, the first thing would be that they don't actually care about the supposed genocide.

00:36:23.000 Right?

00:36:23.000 That would be the thing that would immediately pop to mind.

00:36:26.000 That you didn't care about that, that it was all a lie, that you actually had another reason that you were doing this routine.

00:36:33.000 The Washington Free Beacon has an excellent rundown of many of the so-called anti-genocide activists who have gone completely missing.

00:36:41.000 Like completely MIA.

00:36:43.000 Medi Hassan, over at MSNBC, right, former MSNBC personality, who now spends his days on the internet talking with wild lefties and people who like Marjorie Haler Green, as we'll get to in a moment.

00:36:55.000 He put out a statement, I love that we live in a world where we're all supposed to now praise Trump for his peacemaking and ignore the fact that at least 20,000 Palestinians have been killed on his watch with bombs and bullets and rhetorical support that he supplied to Israel.

00:37:07.000 I mean, that he Medi seems pretty, pretty salty about the fact that Trump actually got to the end of this thing.

00:37:15.000 He then went on to predict that Israel will violate the terms of the deal and all the rest.

00:37:19.000 Like not a moment of credit for Trump.

00:37:22.000 Instead, no, no, no, no.

00:37:23.000 We're supposed to be upset with Trump that the things that were necessary to get to the peace happened.

00:37:29.000 Meanwhile, other prominent left-wingers, ranging from Bernie Sanders to anti-Zionist trash heap Peter Binart, to Iran advocate Trita Parsi, to anti-Semitic UN official Francesca Albanese, spent their day casting doubt on the ceasefire's durability.

00:37:48.000 Not a shock at all.

00:37:51.000 Meanwhile, some of the loudest voices have gone completely silent entirely.

00:37:57.000 Bernie Sanders, completely silent.

00:38:00.000 He last discussed the situation on October 7th when he wrote the United States, quote, must stop providing military support to the Netanyahu government.

00:38:07.000 Weird.

00:38:07.000 Trump didn't listen to him and then got to peace.

00:38:10.000 But Bernie went completely completely silent.

00:38:12.000 He's gone.

00:38:12.000 Bernie won't shut the F up ever on anything.

00:38:15.000 But here he suddenly he's pilot he's gone.

00:38:18.000 Gone.

00:38:19.000 Representative AOC?

00:38:20.000 Nothing.

00:38:21.000 Rashida Talib, nothing.

00:38:24.000 Ilhan Omar hesitantly approved the deal, but then called for the prosecution of Israel for alleged war crimes.

00:38:30.000 Now I have a question.

00:38:31.000 Why is it that they're all going silent or downplaying the deal that supposedly ends the pseudo-genocide that they have been promoting?

00:38:39.000 That narrative.

00:38:40.000 And the answer is obvious, folks.

00:38:42.000 The answer is perfectly obvious.

00:38:44.000 The war for all of these people in the West, not for Hamas. 0.53

00:38:47.000 Hamas actually wished to win the war on the ground and just didn't have the capacity to do so.

00:38:51.000 Their original plans called for them to actually link up with Hamas in Judea and Samaria and then to link up with Hezbollah in the North.

00:38:57.000 Like they actually thought they were going to win a full-scale war against the IDF and against the Israeli people and destroy the state of Israel.

00:39:03.000 That October 7th would have been like the end of the state.

00:39:06.000 But then they turned to plan B, which was how do we win the PR war against Israel?

00:39:11.000 And all of Hamas's allies were so happy to help Hamas. 0.91

00:39:15.000 They were it they were overjoyed to help Hamas. 0.99

00:39:18.000 They couldn't wait to help Hamas. 0.99

00:39:20.000 Because not only do they hate Israel, but a huge number of them are advocates of an anti-Semitism that suggests that Jewish power is in control of all of the levers of finance and media and political and governmental power. 0.97

00:39:36.000 And this provided them an excellent opportunity to try to make the case that Israel and the Jews who supported it, which is to say the vast majority of Jews, are terrible and evil and no good and very bad. 0.96

00:39:47.000 And so they loved the war. 0.96

00:39:49.000 That is the reality.

00:39:50.000 All the same people who are like, oh, you love war.

00:39:52.000 You love war if you want Israel to win. 0.97

00:39:54.000 They loved the war.

00:39:55.000 How can you tell?

00:39:56.000 Because the war is ending, and everybody who supposedly quote unquote loved the war is very happy.

00:40:00.000 And all the people who are supposedly sad about the war are actually, you know, kind of sad that the ceasefire is happening or silent.

00:40:08.000 Why?

00:40:09.000 Because again, their goal was the delegitimization of Israel and a broader conspiracy theory about Jewish power.

00:40:16.000 And when the war ends, and they can't talk about that anymore, because no one's going to care because it's going to be in the past, when that happens, then they are left bereft.

00:40:25.000 What do they talk about?

00:40:26.000 How does Rashida Talib promote lies about conspiratorial Jewish power when it's not pictures of people getting killed in Gaza every day because Hamas is hiding behind them. 0.53

00:40:36.000 What does she do for a living exactly? 1.00

00:40:38.000 What does Bernie do now?

00:40:40.000 How does he talk about these issues?

00:40:43.000 Understand that the Palestinians who died in this war for these folks were a feature, not a bug.

00:40:49.000 And the way that you can tell that they were a feature, not a bug, is that they're not celebrating the end of the war.

00:40:54.000 If they were actually concerned about those people, they'd be selling they're not celebrating.

00:40:57.000 They're silent, or they are downplaying, or they're upset.

00:41:02.000 Which shows you what their actual priorities were.

00:41:04.000 And it tells you also where their politics are going to go.

00:41:06.000 Because once Israel is not in the headlines anymore, once Hamas is not in the headlines anymore, then they're gonna have to just turn to road anti-Semitism. 0.98

00:41:13.000 They're anti-Zionism, they're not just gonna go silent on quote unquote Jewish power, Jewish control of Congress and all the rest of this trash. 1.00

00:41:21.000 They're not just gonna go silent on that. 0.99

00:41:23.000 They're just gonna turn it into something else.

00:41:25.000 It'll be about some other aspect of Jewish power that must be combated. 1.00

00:41:30.000 That horseshoe theory right, that horseshoe theory left, they will come together along those lines.

00:41:35.000 Which, by the way, is already happening.

00:41:39.000 It is no surprise to find that Medi Hassan has been retweeting Marjorie Taylor Green, Matt Gates, and Candace Owens.

00:41:49.000 Like that is not a shock.

00:41:52.000 What did he retweet them on?

00:41:53.000 Well, he retweeted Matt Gates promoting a lie that an APAC event, various Congress people were walking around with QR codes that linked to their fundraising websites.

00:42:04.000 That's not true.

00:42:05.000 The QR codes were for security identification.

00:42:07.000 Have you ever been to an event where you have a QR code on your placard that hangs around your neck so that security can tell what you're allowed into and what you're not?

00:42:14.000 That's what they were wearing around. 0.72

00:42:15.000 And Matt Gates lied about that because Matt Gates is a dishonest human being.

00:42:19.000 And meanwhile, the uh commentary of Candace Owens speaks for itself.

00:42:24.000 There's a reason why Mehdi Hassan has been pushing it.

00:42:29.000 And the retweeting of Marjorie Taylor Green is similarly about Marjorie Taylor Green's conspiratorial bizarre takes on the power of the Jewish lobby in the United States.

00:42:39.000 Of course, Medi Hassan is promoting that. 0.57

00:42:41.000 Of course he is.

00:42:42.000 And that's also why Medi Hassan is very dyspeptic about the deal.

00:42:48.000 That horseshoe theory, it is undefeated.

00:42:50.000 It is undefeated.

00:42:51.000 In just a moment, we'll get to why so many people seem silent about the fact that President Trump just did a good thing in the Middle East.

00:42:58.000 Why are all the people who are so upset about the bad images out of Gaza now going silent when those bad images are set to stop?

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00:45:12.000 Meanwhile, it's always amusing to see who's being given the strange new respect treatment by the left.

00:45:17.000 And it's typically people who wish to destroy the right.

00:45:20.000 Very often you'll see members of the right who go rogue and suddenly they're given this strange new respect.

00:45:26.000 They're being treated with kid gloves by the left, by the media.

00:45:29.000 Today's candidate, and this has been going on for a few weeks is Marjorie Taylor Greene.

00:45:33.000 Marjorie Taylor Green has been spending her time trying to tear down the Trump administration. 1.00

00:45:36.000 Let's just be clear about what she's doing right now. 1.00

00:45:38.000 She has opposed the Trump administration's foreign policy.

00:45:40.000 She's opposed the Trump administration's domestic policy.

00:45:42.000 She's attempting to tear MAGA down the middle. 1.00

00:45:45.000 She has claimed that President Trump betrayed his own movement.

00:45:48.000 It's absolute nonsense.

00:45:49.000 She's not the only one doing this, of course, and many of those people are also being treated with kid gloves by the media while they say things that in any other world would get them shellacked by those same exact people.

00:45:58.000 But suddenly Marjorie Taylor Green is meeting with wonderful praise, not just from Medi Hasan, of course, but also from Jimmy Kimmel, who's praising Marjorie Taylor Green, who's been spending her days going around undermining the president's agenda with regard to, for example, the government shutdown.

00:46:13.000 The crazy thing is for the last few years, Republicans were the ones screaming for these Epstein files, and one of them still is and doesn't care what the rest of the party has to say about it.

00:46:23.000 There is no amount of pressure they can put on me to to force me to step in line on that, so to speak.

00:46:29.000 You know things in Washington are broken when Marjorie Taylor Green is the lone voice of reason on the Republican side.

00:46:35.000 I mean, it's what is going on.

00:46:41.000 And the answer is she isn't.

00:46:43.000 The reason that she keeps doing the Epstein file thing is not because she thinks there's anything in the Epstein files.

00:46:48.000 She does not believe, so I mean, maybe she does because she's not a particularly intelligent human, but she doesn't believe that there is a lot she shouldn't, based on the available evidence that there's a lot of hidden material in the Epstein files. 0.51

00:46:59.000 Because again, Occam's razor suggests that people like Dan Bongino and Cash Patel, if there were, would be all over it.

00:47:07.000 That all the people who spent, you know, years railing about the Epstein files and then got in and saw all the Epstein files and decided they could release some, but they couldn't release others for classification reasons, went to a court to try to have it released, couldn't get it all released and all the rest of it, that those people are not covering up the gigantic massad child bring that Marjorie Taylor Green and her ilk keep on promoting without any evidence whatsoever.

00:47:28.000 The reason that Marjorie Taylor Green keeps pushing this is for two reasons.

00:47:31.000 One, she loves, loves conspiracy theories, particularly ones that she thinks implicate Israel or the Jews.

00:47:37.000 And two, Marjorie Taylor Green is attempting to undermine the Trump administration because she does not agree with the Trump administration's policy directives, particularly with regards to the Middle East.

00:47:48.000 So anything she can do to undermine the Trump administration at this point, she is doing.

00:47:52.000 So she's going around now, slamming Trump and Speaker Johnson and Senate Majority Leader Thoon over their handling of the government shutdown and saying that actually health care costs too much.

00:48:01.000 And so what we really should do is sign gigantic government checks about health care. 0.92

00:48:06.000 And she's being met, of course, with just the the wildest applause by these left wingers who are very, very happy that they can now promote all of their dumb ideas via Marjorie Taylor Green. 0.93

00:48:17.000 You know what? 0.82

00:48:17.000 I don't think the shutdown is popular for either side. 0.82

00:48:20.000 And so I see the shutdown completely different from maybe my party leadership.

00:48:26.000 And I'm not putting the blame on the president.

00:48:29.000 I'm actually putting putting the blame on the speaker and leader soon and the Senate.

00:48:33.000 This this should not be happening.

00:48:36.000 And I don't think look, as a member of Congress, we already have a low enough job approval rating.

00:48:42.000 This shutdown is just going to drive everybody's approval rating that much lower.

00:48:46.000 But you say you're putting the blame on the leadership of your party.

00:48:49.000 Absolutely.

00:48:49.000 We control the House, we control the Senate.

00:48:52.000 We have the White House. 1.00

00:48:53.000 She's a useless, useless congressperson. 1.00

00:48:56.000 And yet the media are championing her. 1.00

00:48:59.000 There's a reason she's on CNN, folks. 0.65

00:49:00.000 They wouldn't have had her two years ago. 0.95

00:49:02.000 Now, they can't wait to have her on because horseshoe theory is undefeated. 1.00

00:49:06.000 Ruben Gallego, the senator from Arizona, who's out there praising Marjorie Taylor Green as well.

00:49:11.000 Look at that.

00:49:11.000 Strange new respect.

00:49:12.000 Strange new respect.

00:49:14.000 But a Democratic pollster responded to what Marjorie Taylor Green said about that and grocery prices and said, wow, when MTG does economic messaging better than the Democrats, we should take notice.

00:49:23.000 That's John Anzeloni who did polling for President Biden.

00:49:26.000 Is she doing messaging better than the Democrats are on this?

00:49:28.000 Well, she's not doing better than me, but she's definitely doing it better than a lot of Democrats.

00:49:32.000 Okay, so again, the strange new respect should be an indicator that something is wrong here.

00:49:36.000 When the left is praising you this way, you know, it's it's a pretty good, like Marjorie Taylor Green.

00:49:41.000 Do you think they're doing that because they have the best interests of President Trump or the Republican agenda at heart?

00:49:46.000 Is that what you think is happening here?

00:49:48.000 The same is true for people who are promoting conspiracy theories all over the place on the right.

00:49:53.000 Do we really believe that those people are doing yeoman's work on behalf of conservatism or President Trump's agenda or the MAGA agenda?

00:50:00.000 Or are they part of a gigantic demoralization effort to pretend that the victories that President Trump is winning are actually losses?

00:50:08.000 Because when people are demoralized, then they turn to conspiratorial cult-like figures and watch their shows and promote their work.

00:50:16.000 And then everybody goes home happier, except for the viewers who are dumber, and the American body politic, which is more polarized. 0.58

00:50:23.000 Okay, meanwhile, we can talk about some actual good news in the world of media. 0.94

00:50:27.000 Barry Weiss has now taken over at CBS News.

00:50:30.000 This is an undoubtedly good thing.

00:50:33.000 Barry is incredibly talented.

00:50:35.000 She's right-leaning on some issues.

00:50:37.000 She is moderate to left on other issues.

00:50:39.000 But Barry Weiss, again, is a person who is fully willing to hear the perspectives of the right and to promote those perspectives, particularly in discussion.

00:50:49.000 And that is a wonderful thing.

00:50:50.000 Good for Barry.

00:50:51.000 Remember, Barry walked away from the New York Times because they came after her for her handling of Tom Cotton's op-ed, in which he called for the National Guard to be released on rioters during Black Lives Matter summer.

00:51:01.000 And then she went and started the free press, which is a tremendous outlet.

00:51:04.000 A lot of high IQ, interesting writers from a variety of perspectives writing over at the free press.

00:51:10.000 And she built that thing into a really successful thought-leading enterprise. 1.00

00:51:15.000 And now she is moving on over to CBS News, where she is taking over as editor-in-chief.

00:51:20.000 And that is an amazing move by David Ellison, who is the new leader over at CBS, now that CBS was bought out by Larry Ellison.

00:51:29.000 And she's going to take that same editorial sensibility that actually takes seriously conservative and right-wing arguments over to CBS News. 0.86

00:51:36.000 That is a sea change in the nature of media.

00:51:39.000 Legacy media actually beginning to acknowledge the reality, which is that there's an entire half of the country they have been ignoring and pretending does not exist.

00:51:47.000 And it's not just Barry, there's some other indicators here as well.

00:51:50.000 If you take a look, for example, at the Washington Post editorial page, Jeff Bezos had remade the Washington Post editorial page because he said it's basically just a salon slate think piece, pitch place.

00:52:04.000 And that has now changed.

00:52:07.000 Washington Post columnist Mark Deeson boasted on Thursday, the newspaper was now a conservative opinion page.

00:52:13.000 After writing an article titled, Yes, Trump Deserves the Nobel Peace Prize.

00:52:18.000 And he is not wrong about this.

00:52:21.000 There has been movement at the Washington Post toward more conservatism on the page.

00:52:27.000 Now, I would say it's a little bit of an exaggeration to say they're fully conservative, but certainly they're taking those opinions more seriously.

00:52:33.000 So that is a victory.

00:52:35.000 That is a good thing.

00:52:36.000 And it's worthy of examining why good things happen and how good things happen.

00:52:41.000 The way good things happen is hard work by decent people pushing the right buttons consistently for years on end, not people railing against the clouds, not people shouting about the fire in the sky.

00:52:54.000 Like Barry went and built an alternative thing, and now she's the editor of CBS News. 0.99

00:52:59.000 The Washington Post was a bad newspaper for years, and people talked about it being a bad newspaper for years.

00:53:05.000 And then finally Jeff Bezos went and is trying to do something about it.

00:53:08.000 That is a very, very good thing.

00:53:09.000 Okay, meanwhile, the Democrats continue their spate of incompetence.

00:53:14.000 Abigail Spanberger is running for governor in Virginia.

00:53:16.000 She's still up slightly on Winsome Sears over in that gubernatorial race. 0.99

00:53:22.000 She had a bad evening last evening.

00:53:24.000 So she was doing a debate or a town hall, and she was asked if men should be able to compete with women in sports.

00:53:30.000 And here's what Abigail Spanberger, supposed moderate, had to say.

00:53:33.000 My priority would be to ensure that local communities, importantly parents and teachers and educators, are able to work together to meet the unique needs of each school and each community.

00:53:47.000 And that is important.

00:53:50.000 And I say that as a mother of three daughters in Virginia public schools.

00:53:54.000 Exactly.

00:53:55.000 And as someone who used to investigate crimes against children, the way that we keep our children safe is by ensuring they are safe in schools, which includes funding law enforcement and public safety.

00:54:07.000 But Ms. Van Burger, the question was should the young would you rescind the Yuncan administration policy requiring boys and girls to use bathrooms aligning with their biological sex?

00:54:20.000 You have 15 seconds to clarify that question.

00:54:22.000 Yes, and my answer is that in each local community, decisions should be made between parents and educators and teachers in each community.

00:54:32.000 It shouldn't be dictated by politicians.

00:54:37.000 Again, there's a bad performance here by Abigail Spanberger. 0.99

00:54:40.000 The polls apparently are in fact heightening in Virginia.

00:54:44.000 Right now, according to the brand new signal poll, it shows that Spanberger is leading Winsome Sears by about four percent.

00:54:51.000 That is a tight race.

00:54:52.000 Okay, that is a much tighter race than it was even a month ago when she was leading by upward of seven points.

00:54:58.000 So, you know, Spanberger's performance last night is not going to help her out.

00:55:02.000 She also was asked if she still endorses the attorney general candidate in Virginia Jay Jones.

00:55:07.000 You'll remember that that particular candidate was caught on text talking about wanting to murder his political opponents and saying that violence should be done to the families of political opponents because that's how you actually effectuate change.

00:55:18.000 Here is Spanberger trying to avoid the question.

00:55:21.000 For you yourself, do you still continue to endorse Jay Jones?

00:55:25.000 15 seconds.

00:55:26.000 Yes or no?

00:55:27.000 I we are all running our individual races.

00:55:29.000 I believe my opponent has said that about her Lieutenant Governor nominee.

00:55:34.000 And it's up to every person to make their own decision.

00:55:37.000 I am running my race to serve Virginia, and that is what I intend to do.

00:55:43.000 Thank you, Miss Spanberger.

00:55:45.000 Uh, we just want to clarify, you know, what you're saying is that as of now, you still endorse Jay Jones as attorney general.

00:55:53.000 I'm saying as of now, it's up to every voter to make their own individual decision.

00:55:57.000 I am running for governor.

00:55:58.000 I am accountable for the words that I say endorses for the acts that I take for the policies that I have put out.

00:56:06.000 Thank you.

00:56:06.000 I am responsible for the policies I put out and the work I will endeavor to do tirelessly for the people.

00:56:14.000 Governor Virginia.

00:56:15.000 Thank you, Miss Spamberger.

00:56:17.000 Again, just a refusal openly to dissociate from people who overtly call for crime against their enemies.

00:56:24.000 Well done, Democrats.

00:56:25.000 Meanwhile, Dan Goldman is doing the same sort of thing yesterday.

00:56:28.000 Goldman, when when he wasn't giving accidental praise to President Trump over the peace deal in the Middle East, he uh is smearing ICE agents as violent.

00:56:36.000 Here was Democratic Representative Goldman from New York yesterday.

00:56:40.000 Many of these ICE agents are masked, they're plain clothes, they're unidentified, um, and they're violent.

00:56:48.000 So, yes, people are going to be scared because you have these unidentified masked agents who are screaming and violent and uh causing excess using excessive force a lot.

00:57:00.000 So naturally you're gonna be scared.

00:57:04.000 Okay, so again, um the your right to be scared apparently of ICE agents, but also he denies that violence is up against ICE agents, which of course is not true.

00:57:11.000 It is up against ice agents.

00:57:13.000 There are apps that are being created that are the sole purpose is to dox ice agents.

00:57:17.000 And there are people showing up at their houses, and there are families being threatened.

00:57:21.000 I think all of that is is terrible.

00:57:23.000 Do you know this for a fact?

00:57:24.000 Because I do know this for us.

00:57:26.000 I have not seen ice relationships.

00:57:28.000 You're ignoring the fact about a thousand percent up swing and all this stuff.

00:57:33.000 I haven't seen examples.

00:57:35.000 We just had shootings in Dallas and Alvarado, Texas at ICE facilities.

00:57:39.000 You remember that, right?

00:57:41.000 It is it is just incredible.

00:57:42.000 Like, why do Democrats feel the necessity to downplay this sort of stuff?

00:57:46.000 Why?

00:57:46.000 Unless, again, it's part of a permission structure for violence that Democrats have created over the course of decades.

00:57:52.000 Speaking of left-wing violence, so there this person is apparently a crazy person, but was a left-wing-oriented crazy person.

00:58:01.000 We now know the identity of the person who sparked the flames that burned half of LA to the ground in the Palisades fire recently.

00:58:09.000 He's a 29-year-old who regularly took to Facebook, according to the New York Post to share posts about eco-apocalypses, mock President Trump and his supporters, and push people to become vegans.

00:58:18.000 Yeah.

00:58:19.000 Dude should have had a stake once in a while instead of you know burning down half of LA.

00:58:23.000 One article he shared, climate change will force a new American migration from ProPublica, even included a thumbnail showing wildfire shoulders ra wildfires raging across a California hillside neighborhood.

00:58:34.000 Other posts on the alleged fire bugs Facebook included photos of Trump supporters crying after he lost the 2020 election, linking to a Harris Biden fundraiser page and more climate alarmist headlines.

00:58:46.000 So he kept sharing over and over posts about how the environment was being wrecked.

00:58:51.000 One of the few photos of himself on the page, he appears as a wild eyed, mouth open, face painted like a skull covered in blood.

00:58:58.000 Other online activity included creating disturbing AI generated images showing cities burning with massive people fleeing at the destruction, according to prosecutors.

00:59:07.000 So apparently he filmed the first blaze he set, reported it to the authorities, and then returned to the site to watch the firefighters battle it.

00:59:13.000 I actually couldn't remember how much damage the Pacific Palisades fires did in 2025.

00:59:18.000 So I asked our friends and sponsors over a comet, which is a project of perplexity.

00:59:22.000 How much damage did they do?

00:59:23.000 The answer is that they caused catastrophic damage, burning more than 23,000 acres, destroying nearly 7,000 homes and businesses in the region.

00:59:31.000 The destruction led to an estimated 150 billion dollars in direct damages, with some broader economic analysis placing total costs, including business disruption and indirect losses for the LA area as high as 250 to 275 billion dollars.

00:59:44.000 At least 12 people lost their lives in the Pacific Palisades fire.

00:59:48.000 So this person was was clearly mentally disturbed, but it is worth noting that this person was of the left.

00:59:56.000 And meanwhile, the government shutdown continues apace.

01:00:00.000 Hakeem Jeffries is making the claim that Republicans can open the government, ignoring, of course, the fact that he actually can open the government any time he chooses.

01:00:07.000 What is bad precedent is the Republican refusal to engage in bipartisan negotiations.

01:00:14.000 What is bad president precedent is the Republicans embarking on a my way or the highway approach from the very beginning of this Congress.

01:00:21.000 Republicans control the House, the Senate, and the presidency.

01:00:24.000 Joe, you're exactly right.

01:00:26.000 So if the government shuts down, they've made the decision to shut the government down.

01:00:31.000 And they can reopen it right now if they chose to, with a rule change in the Senate.

01:00:36.000 But the real what I just ex I just explained it.

01:00:41.000 So yeah, yeah, and we'll see if this works out for him.

01:00:44.000 Again, I think that it's likely the president will cut some sort of deal here.

01:00:47.000 But the reality is that Jeffreys does not have a particularly good answer as to why he's continuing the government shutdown.

01:00:52.000 Joe Kernan over at CNBC tore him up pretty badly yesterday.

01:00:55.000 There was an election and the Republicans were put in a position where they were able to pass the big, beautiful bill or you call it the big, ugly bill.

01:01:05.000 To then say we don't like any of that, so we're gonna shut down the government until you take back all the things that you duly pass through legislation.

01:01:14.000 If Republicans had tried to do that to the uh inflation reduction act or the um any of the acts that that that Biden and the that administration had passed, if they said we're gonna shut down the government because we don't like any of those things you did, we're gonna not pay our military, we're gonna, you know, not allow the government to reopen until you do what we want.

01:01:36.000 After an election where the the American people put them in, put Democrats in power, you'd be going crazy.

01:01:42.000 You'd be going crazy about using a shutdown of the government with a continuing on a continuing resolution to get what you want just because you don't like what the Republicans did.

01:01:52.000 It's not how it works.

01:01:53.000 It's bad.

01:01:55.000 Okay, so he happens to be right about that.

01:01:57.000 Meanwhile, the big controversy the media are glatching on to today is the prosecution of New York Attorney General Letitia James, who's indicted on Thursday in Alexandria, Virginia, as President Trump's DOJ pursued charges against her.

01:02:09.000 This follows charges pursued against James Comey, the former FBI director.

01:02:13.000 She's been under investigation since May over a 2023 mortgage.

01:02:16.000 She took out to buy a home in Norfolk, Virginia.

01:02:20.000 The grand jury ended up returning two felony charges, bank fraud, and making false statements to a financial institution.

01:02:25.000 According to the indictment, James claimed on a mortgage paperwork form that a home she purchased in Norfolk would be her second residence.

01:02:31.000 That claim allowed her to get a favorable loan on terms not available for simple investment properties.

01:02:36.000 But apparently she didn't use the house. 0.94

01:02:37.000 She instead rented the property to a family of three.

01:02:40.000 They allege she falsely stated in loan applications the residence would be a secondary home when she knew that she would use it as an investment property.

01:02:49.000 So apparently she received improper gains of about 20 grand over the life of the loan.

01:02:54.000 Now, what's kind of ironic about all this, of course, is she doesn't really get to claim that she's being politically targeted.

01:03:00.000 Letitia James politically targeted the president of the United States. 0.98

01:03:03.000 She crafted a civil charge out of absolutely nothing with regard to financial documents that damaged no one.

01:03:10.000 And so this one definitely falls under turnabout is fair play.

01:03:13.000 Letitia James went after the president of the United States for supposedly making false statements in pursuit of loans, which he then duly repaid. 0.99

01:03:21.000 And she did it herself.

01:03:23.000 So her being gone after by the DOJ.

01:03:26.000 You know, again, I'm not a fan of politically targeting people.

01:03:29.000 But if the goal here is mutually assured destruction, like don't craft nonsense cases in order to get your political opponents, then the people who did that, I'm not going to feel bad for Letitia James today.

01:03:38.000 I'm just not.

01:03:39.000 Especially given the fact that that resulted in a gigantic judgment that ended up having to be reduced by an appellate court because it was so out of this world insane.

01:03:48.000 Alrighty, folks, the show continues for our members right now.

01:03:51.000 We'll get into the question of whether Jack Smith, you remember him, special prosecutor against President Trump, obtained telephone data on Republican Congress people.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - October 10, 2025

THE TRUMP EFFECT: How To Win A War

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