The Ben Shapiro Show - June 05, 2020


The Woke Revolution Eats Its Own | Ep. 1025


Episode Stats

Length

50 minutes

Words per Minute

221.26498

Word Count

11,078

Sentence Count

780

Misogynist Sentences

4

Hate Speech Sentences

15


Summary

Unemployment unexpectedly drops, and some Democrats are upset about it. The New York Times' woke staffers destroy its oped page to stop a conservative column, and Drew Brees' atonement is rejected. The economy actually created more than 2.5 million jobs in May, according to the Labor Department. The May gain was the biggest one-month jobs gain in American history since at least 1939. President Trump called it a "stupendous number" and said it was a "shame" that economists were wrong. Paul Krugman says it's much more likely that the models used to produce these numbers have gone haywire in a time of Pandemicemicemic economic growth, and that the numbers reinforce the White House inclination to do nothing and do nothing at all, because the economic outlook is not good. The Ben Shapiro Show is sponsored by ExpressVPN. Your data is your business, your data is protected, your business is protected. You can be your business protected at ExpressVpn.com/BenShapiroShow. Ben Shapiro is a writer, editor, podcaster, and podcaster. He is a regular contributor to the Financial Times, the Wall Street Journal, and writes for the Weekly Standard, and is a frequent contributor to The Huffington Post, The Hill, and The Daily Beast. His latest book Other Words For Smoke is out now. Check out his newest book, The Dark Side of the Street, out now, which is out in paperback! If you like what you're reading, please consider subscribing to Ben Shapiro's newest book: It's a must-listening book. It's work is also available on Amazon Prime Video, Kindle, and more than $99.99, and Audible, and you can get a copy of the paperback edition of The Economist, out on Audible's newest edition, out soon! It'll be out soon, too! Subscribe to The Economist's newest issue will be out in March 2020, coming soon, out in January 2020. The Economist will be shipping out a limited edition edition paperback edition, The Economist s latest issue is out on Nov. 7th, $49.95, shipping only $39.99.00, shipping first, shipping free, starting on Prime Day, starting next month, shipping will be available on 7/27th, shipping and shipping only 2 months from the UK, and shipping free to the US, will get an extra $99,99.


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00:00:00.000 Unemployment unexpectedly drops, and some Democrats are upset about it.
00:00:03.000 The New York Times' woke staffers destroy its op-ed page to stop a conservative column, and Drew Brees' atonement is rejected.
00:00:11.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.
00:00:11.000 This is the Ben Shapiro Show.
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00:00:25.000 Alrighty, so the big story of the morning is that the unemployment rate shockingly declined to 13.3%.
00:00:31.000 There are a lot of people who are expecting, most of the economists were expecting, an addition of some 7.5 million people to the unemployment rolls this month.
00:00:39.000 Instead, it turns out that unemployment actually decreased by 2.5%.
00:00:43.000 Millions.
00:00:44.000 Dow Jones experts, according to Daily Wire, had predicted the rate would soar to 19.5%, with another 8 million jobs lost.
00:00:50.000 The economists were not even close.
00:00:51.000 The economy actually created more than 2.5 million jobs in May, according to the Labor Department.
00:00:56.000 The May gain was the biggest one-month jobs gain in American history since at least 1939.
00:01:01.000 President Trump wrote on Twitter, it's a stunner by any stretch of the imagination.
00:01:04.000 It's a stupendous number.
00:01:05.000 Let's call it like it is.
00:01:05.000 It's joyous.
00:01:06.000 The market was right.
00:01:07.000 It's stunning.
00:01:08.000 Jobs returned to many sectors, from retail sales to restaurants and bars, to clothing stores, to dentistry and medical practices.
00:01:13.000 Jobs were lost in government and education due to ongoing school closures.
00:01:17.000 Futures on the Dow soared more than 650 points on the good news.
00:01:20.000 The unemployment rate increased by more than 10% in April.
00:01:23.000 It went all the way up to 14.7%.
00:01:25.000 The March jobs report barely caught the initial surge in unemployment.
00:01:27.000 It was just then at 4.4%.
00:01:31.000 There was some bad news on Thursday, with the Labor Department stating that 1.8 million Americans made first-time claims for unemployment benefits last week.
00:01:38.000 That pushed the number of people who had lost their jobs amid the pandemic above 42 million.
00:01:43.000 Weekly jobless claims totaled 1.877 million.
00:01:45.000 Dow Jones analysts had estimated a job loss of 1.775 million.
00:01:49.000 So this is all bizarre.
00:01:50.000 A lot of people who are still claiming unemployment, but a lot of jobs were added to the economy because it turns out that people are not into being locked up and losing their jobs forever.
00:01:58.000 And a lot of the people who are on unemployment have technically been sort of furloughed, right?
00:02:03.000 A lot of them went to their employers and they said, if you could just kind of lay me off so that I'm eligible to make more money off unemployment than I am working for you right now, since I'm furloughed, that would be great.
00:02:11.000 But those people are going to get their jobs back.
00:02:14.000 The economy is expected to begin recovering during the second half of 2020.
00:02:17.000 The CBO's May report had said the labor market is projected to materially improve after the third quarter, but obviously this was happening earlier, right?
00:02:24.000 So bottom line is that people want to get back to work.
00:02:26.000 People are getting back to work, and that is amazing.
00:02:29.000 That is really good news.
00:02:30.000 This led Paul Krugman, the expert over at the New York Times, because the experts are always right.
00:02:34.000 This is the thing that we have learned over the past several months, is you must listen to data, you must listen to the experts, you must listen to the science.
00:02:40.000 Now, as somebody who is kind of fond of listening to data and science, I've been noting all along that the data and science have not been backing a lot of the positions taken by the so-called experts.
00:02:49.000 But it is amusing to watch as Paul Krugman becomes an employment truther.
00:02:53.000 He tweeted out this morning, This being the Trump era, you can't completely discount the possibility.
00:02:58.000 They've gotten to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
00:03:00.000 They've gotten to them.
00:03:01.000 President Trump went to the Bureau of Labor Statistics and he said, it's going to be your unemployment numbers or your brains on this piece of paper.
00:03:07.000 But it's much more likely, says Paul Krugman, that the models used to produce these numbers have gone haywire in a time of pandemic.
00:03:13.000 He says these numbers should make you more, not less, pessimistic about the economic outlook.
00:03:17.000 Why?
00:03:17.000 Because they'll reinforce the White House inclination to do nothing and let emergency aid expire.
00:03:22.000 Unbelievable.
00:03:23.000 So you were wrong by like the swing there from 7.5 million jobs lost to 2.5 million jobs gained.
00:03:29.000 You were off by 10 million jobs in that swing.
00:03:31.000 And your initial response is, this is very bad because it means that there won't be as much stimulus as we need.
00:03:36.000 Or you're just wrong about like all the things, Paul Krugman.
00:03:39.000 And you have been wrong for years.
00:03:41.000 This is the same guy who suggested the internet would not change the way we did business.
00:03:43.000 It would be like the fax machine.
00:03:46.000 Genius, Paul Krugman.
00:03:47.000 The guy's just incredible at what he does.
00:03:49.000 So that is very good news.
00:03:50.000 People have been saying on the right, is it possible that Trump can still win given everything that's going on, given the fact that he's trailing Joe Biden heavily, given the fact that he's trailing in a lot of the swing states?
00:03:57.000 The answer is if the economy really recovers, and if COVID doesn't kill everybody, then by the time we get to the election, the story ain't gonna be the riots.
00:04:03.000 The story is going to be the economy booming again, or the economy skyrocketing again, or the, I mean, this month we had the greatest jobs growth since 1939.
00:04:10.000 The economy picking up again.
00:04:13.000 And in the face of that, Joe Biden and his performative wokeness.
00:04:16.000 Because right now, the performative wokeness looks good when you got a lot of people out in the streets and when everybody is being forced to kneel at the altar, almost literally kneel, kneel at the altar of the proposition that America is systemically racist.
00:04:28.000 Every major corporation putting out notices about this and Joe Biden out there rah-rahing it in the middle of rioting and looting.
00:04:33.000 All of that looks good when President Trump doesn't look like he's in control.
00:04:36.000 But if we get to November and the actual question is booming economy versus performative wokeness from a dead guy in Joe Biden, That is a better race for Donald Trump.
00:04:45.000 It is a better race for Donald Trump.
00:04:47.000 So basically, Trump's entire future in politics rests on an economic recovery at this point.
00:04:53.000 It has to happen for him.
00:04:54.000 If there's no economic recovery, he's toast.
00:04:56.000 If there is an economic recovery, then he could win.
00:04:59.000 He could win a fairly solid victory in the Electoral College.
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00:06:18.000 Meanwhile, in the rioting news and the looting news and the protest news, the big story of the evening and of the morning was this video.
00:06:27.000 There's a lot of video that's coming out right now of the police being brutal to people.
00:06:31.000 And this is bad, and all the officers involved should be punished when they are brutal to people, obviously.
00:06:35.000 The police have a really rough job.
00:06:36.000 That does not alleviate them of their responsibility to not involve themselves in acts of police brutality.
00:06:41.000 We have seen this happen a bunch of times.
00:06:43.000 So there is a situation that happened in Buffalo, New York yesterday.
00:06:47.000 In which an elderly man, apparently he's 75 years old, approached police officers.
00:06:50.000 He's a protester.
00:06:52.000 And he is pushed.
00:06:54.000 He loses his balance and he smacks his head against the pavement.
00:06:58.000 Medics come forward and treat him.
00:06:59.000 They put him in an ambulance.
00:06:59.000 He was taken away.
00:07:00.000 The man's name is Martin Gugino of Amherst.
00:07:03.000 He was in serious but stable condition, apparently with a concussion and lacerations.
00:07:06.000 The officers were seen walking past him as he lay bleeding on the ground.
00:07:10.000 And then they went and they arrested somebody who was behind him, who apparently was not leaving when they were supposed to leave.
00:07:15.000 The Buffalo mayor, Byron Brown, issued a statement saying he was deeply disturbed by the video.
00:07:19.000 The officers were suspended without pay.
00:07:21.000 The governor, Andrew Cuomo, of course, called the incident wholly unjustified and utterly disgraceful, which it is.
00:07:27.000 I just wish that Andrew Cuomo were quite as upset about mass rioting and looting in the middle of New York City.
00:07:33.000 You can do both, right?
00:07:33.000 I'm not upset with the tweet about this being unjustified and disgraceful.
00:07:37.000 I'm more upset that he allowed people to run roughshod through his major city for seven complete days and seven complete nights.
00:07:43.000 That seems like that was a bad policy.
00:07:45.000 But with that said, there are a few points to be made here.
00:07:47.000 One, Police brutality is a thing that happens.
00:07:50.000 It is a thing that happens.
00:07:51.000 There are police who are brutal.
00:07:52.000 And right now, because all the cameras are out and every police officer in America is out, you're going to see more instances of that.
00:07:57.000 And that being caught on camera and police officers being punished for this sort of thing, I think most police officers are on board with that.
00:08:04.000 In this particular case, the shove is bad.
00:08:07.000 The guy obviously does lose his balance and trips over himself.
00:08:10.000 Don't shove 75-year-old people is the answer to this particular problem.
00:08:14.000 The guy's white.
00:08:15.000 We've seen other cases.
00:08:16.000 There was a case in Washington, D.C.
00:08:18.000 when SWAT was attempting to disperse a crowd, and one SWAT member just goes right after a cameraman.
00:08:24.000 There's a cameraman who's standing right there, and you see the SWAT guy take his shield and just slam the shield into the stomach of the cameraman.
00:08:30.000 The cameraman's white.
00:08:30.000 He's from Australia.
00:08:32.000 Why do I mention the race?
00:08:33.000 Because the narrative that we are being told by the Black Lives Matter crew is that police brutality is reserved for black people.
00:08:39.000 That the issue here is not bad police training and police brutality and incidents thereof, but generalized systemic American racism.
00:08:45.000 I've suggested that typically when you have incidents of police brutality, it's really more an issue of the fact That a lot of police are not well trained, a lot of police are too aggressive, that that happens across communities, it is not relegated to the black community, and that to pretend that every incident of brutality is in fact an incident of racism is to make a category error.
00:09:03.000 In fact, everybody who's jumping to the conclusion that the Derek Chauvin killing of George Floyd, the alleged killing of George Floyd, and I say alleged because again there's conflicting autopsies on this, but the alleged killing of George Floyd by Derek Chauvin People who are jumping to the conclusion that Chauvin did that because he's a brutal racist as opposed to because he's just not a good cop and was involved in incidents of police brutality and was badly trained.
00:09:26.000 The jump there is not supported by the evidence in that particular case.
00:09:30.000 Now, there are cases in which there is evidence to support the racism charge.
00:09:34.000 So a perfect case where you have evidence to support a racism charge would be the Ahmed Arbery case.
00:09:38.000 So originally I said, maybe this is just vigilantes.
00:09:41.000 Who were attempting to stop what they thought was a crime, and they were wrong, and they were acting like idiots and bad people, and they got into an armed confrontation with Arbery and shot him, which means they should go to jail.
00:09:55.000 But that is not a case necessarily of racism.
00:09:57.000 Well, now we actually have evidence.
00:09:58.000 So now it looks more like racism, right?
00:10:00.000 So when you follow the evidence, The nice thing about evidence is it doesn't tend to bring you to the wrong conclusion.
00:10:05.000 More data is generally good.
00:10:07.000 Knowing the motivations of people is generally going to be more helpful in generating data for a narrative than simply just assuming the narrative.
00:10:15.000 And what you're seeing from the Black Lives Matter movement, what you're seeing from the media is, and what you're seeing from every major corporation, every major corporation in America is now saying, I've donated a million dollars to the NAACP Legal Defense Fund in acknowledgement of systemic racism.
00:10:26.000 By the way, if you think that those sorts of donations are going to now alleviate people calling you racist, if you're a major corporation, you're wrong.
00:10:33.000 It's not going to happen.
00:10:34.000 If Amazon thinks that by putting up a Black Lives Matter banner on their website that people are going to now just pretend that Amazon is fine, that the left is going to leave Amazon alone, good luck with that.
00:10:44.000 Really, enjoy.
00:10:45.000 But the reality is that in certain cases, you can actually tell whether racism is happening so.
00:10:52.000 So, there is an allegation now that Travis McMichael, 34, called the alleged victim, Ahmaud Arbery, in that Georgia awful, awful, awful case, right?
00:11:01.000 They're not being charged with murder.
00:11:02.000 Travis McMichael, who is one of the shooters, called the alleged victim an effing N-word after the shooting and before police arrived, according to testimony from Special Agent Richard Dial.
00:11:10.000 That came secondhand from a co-defendant, William Roddy Bryan, 50, the man who recorded video of the fatal shooting.
00:11:16.000 Now, this has been called a little bit into question because the guy was recording the shooting from behind, he was in his car, so unless he yelled it, the question is how the guy in the car heard it.
00:11:24.000 But, assuming that he's not lying, assuming he's not trying to, you know, get off the hook by basically saying this was a racist murder and I wasn't involved in any of it, it was the racism, but assuming it's true, which I don't see why we shouldn't assume it's true, assuming it's true, that is a case of a racist murder, right?
00:11:37.000 So, yes, racism exists.
00:11:39.000 Yes, we can identify it, and yes, we can punish it.
00:11:42.000 But to immediately assume that every incident of police brutality involving a black person is really about the race of the black person, as opposed to the police brutality, I think is a fairly major category error.
00:11:54.000 But we are not really supposed to talk about the category error, because again, there is a narrative to be driven.
00:12:00.000 And the narrative is that America is deeply evil and deeply terrible in every possible way.
00:12:04.000 And this is why you see senators kneeling at the US Capitol.
00:12:09.000 Okay, now again, the kneeling symbol is, I don't know if it's deliberately vague or if it's obviously supposed to be the Colin Kaepernick thing, right?
00:12:16.000 That was the symbol that Colin Kaepernick used.
00:12:17.000 Colin Kaepernick, the former 49ers quarterback, got benched and then decided to kneel and wore socks with cops as pigs on them.
00:12:24.000 He was kneeling for the national anthem and for the American flag.
00:12:28.000 Because of police brutality.
00:12:29.000 The implication being that America, broadly writ, is guilty for the sins of police brutality and racism is to blame for all police brutality.
00:12:36.000 Now you have United States sitting senators who are kneeling in honor of George Floyd.
00:12:41.000 Well, if the idea is that you have to accept that America is systemically racist, then that's a very bad thing for the country.
00:12:48.000 Here's the problem with making arguments like institutionally racist or systemically racist.
00:12:53.000 They are deliberately nonspecific and they are deliberately created so that you can never alleviate them.
00:12:59.000 I don't like problems that you can never alleviate, especially in politics.
00:13:02.000 It's a serious issue because first of all, if you're not able to alleviate it, then you really shouldn't concern yourself with it in politics.
00:13:10.000 If something in politics is not alleviatable, then sometimes the solution is worse than the cure.
00:13:14.000 This is true with regard to, for example, income inequality.
00:13:16.000 If you want to solve income inequality, you could go full commie and everybody can have the exact same income.
00:13:21.000 But that is not an alleviatable problem in which the solution is not worse than the problem.
00:13:25.000 If you say systemic racism, you never actually have to cite the policy you think is racist or point to the person you think is racist.
00:13:31.000 Instead, you just say everything is racist.
00:13:33.000 And as I said yesterday, that's a religious belief.
00:13:35.000 It is not an actual specific belief about something that we can fix.
00:13:39.000 That's just racism is out there in the atmosphere.
00:13:41.000 Who's the racist?
00:13:41.000 I don't know.
00:13:42.000 Maybe it's you.
00:13:43.000 Maybe it's you.
00:13:44.000 Well, but I'm not a racist.
00:13:45.000 I've never done anything racist.
00:13:46.000 Well, maybe it's implicit.
00:13:47.000 Maybe you don't even know you're doing a racist thing.
00:13:49.000 Well, can you name the racist thing I've done?
00:13:50.000 No.
00:13:51.000 Can you name the racist thing that I believe?
00:13:52.000 No.
00:13:53.000 Can you name any of the racist things that I am responsible for?
00:13:55.000 No.
00:13:56.000 But deep down in your heart, without you even knowing it, you're probably racist.
00:13:59.000 Okay, well now you've made an allegation that is completely unfalsifiable.
00:14:02.000 Suggesting systemic racism or institutional racism is deliberately nonspecific.
00:14:07.000 And if you want to talk about policy, if you want to talk about redlining, for example, back in the 1960s, which was a thing and was made illegal in 1975 by the federal government, if you want to talk about informal practices of redlining, which, by the way, are illegal, and by the way, you could sue banks over, Then you're talking about a policy that has been alleviated by law.
00:14:28.000 If you want to talk about the fact that history has consequences, that of course is true.
00:14:33.000 But the question is, what do you want to do about that today?
00:14:35.000 Because I can't go back, I don't have a time machine.
00:14:37.000 I can't go back in time and change stuff that happened in the past.
00:14:39.000 So what policy would you like to pursue today that is going to alleviate the problem of quote-unquote systemic racism?
00:14:46.000 And if your suggestion is that we have to do injustice today in order to rectify the injustices of the past, the answer is no.
00:14:51.000 Because now you're just doing injustices today.
00:14:54.000 Two wrongs do not actually make a right, nor do they alleviate the problem.
00:14:56.000 If anybody thinks that slavery reparations, that signing checks to descendants of slaves, people are going to go, oh, OK, I guess we're done here.
00:15:02.000 Systemic racism fixed.
00:15:03.000 Good luck.
00:15:04.000 It's not going to happen.
00:15:05.000 Ta-Nehisi Coates has admitted it as much in his seminal essay, The Case for Reparations.
00:15:08.000 Very late in the essay, he says, maybe it won't work, but we should just give it a try.
00:15:12.000 Well, no.
00:15:13.000 Your entire case is that the reparations are reparative.
00:15:16.000 If you're saying it might not work, then it's not reparative.
00:15:19.000 That's not, if you go to a mechanic and the mechanic says, you know, I'm going to need to complete, I'm going to charge you the worth of the car, all you need to do, and it might fix your car, it might not fix your car.
00:15:29.000 Are you going to go to that mechanic?
00:15:30.000 I have serious doubts, have serious doubts.
00:15:32.000 Okay, so we're going to talk more about the Black Lives Matter agenda because it's not clear exactly what people are stumping for other than that generalized sense of America being bad, which is something that you as an American should oppose.
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00:17:24.000 Okay, so what does the Black Lives Matter movement want?
00:17:28.000 So if you're talking about specific policies, the answer is that the BLM agenda as posted on their website is completely insane.
00:17:34.000 I mean, it's things like defund the police, free Palestine, like it's just, it's radical, radical stuff.
00:17:39.000 And if you don't remember the agenda, all you have to do is go back to 2014 when it was the exact same agenda that nobody actually wanted to adopt.
00:17:44.000 So what exactly is driving all of this?
00:17:46.000 What's driving a lot of this is the pitch, which is that America is deliberately keeping black people down.
00:17:53.000 Now, I have a generalized view of human beings.
00:17:55.000 They don't think about each other all that much.
00:17:57.000 They don't spend an awful lot of time thinking about keeping other people down.
00:18:00.000 Not in America.
00:18:01.000 In America, there are not very many people who get up in the morning and they're like, you know what?
00:18:04.000 I'm keeping a black guy down today.
00:18:06.000 I really don't think there are a lot of those people.
00:18:08.000 So if there are not a lot of those people and you can't cite those people, then you need to cite me the rule.
00:18:11.000 The rule that's keeping black people down.
00:18:13.000 And if you can't cite me a rule, then I'm not sure exactly what we are supposed to do about your accusation.
00:18:19.000 If instead what is actually happening is the generalized leftist pitch that any inequality can be chalked up to injustice, even if you can't name the injustice, I'm not going to go along with that.
00:18:29.000 If the idea is that any inequality, that income inequality, can be chalked up to some sort of exploitation or historic grievance that can only be cured by some new injustice, no.
00:18:39.000 The answer is no.
00:18:40.000 I'm not going to go along with that.
00:18:41.000 And if you're going to imply that Americans are bad-hearted and racist, and that the only way to alleviate this is the expiation of sin through quasi-religious rituals in which you kneel and repeat after people, the answer is no.
00:18:52.000 That is un-American.
00:18:53.000 That is not something I'm willing to do as a free American who has not sinned against black people.
00:18:57.000 That is not something I'm willing to do.
00:18:59.000 I'm perfectly willing to accept my own sins.
00:19:00.000 I have a full list on my website of things I feel I've said wrong over the course of my career.
00:19:04.000 But I'm not willing to accept responsibility for something that my non-ancestors did.
00:19:09.000 And I'm not willing, and nobody else should either.
00:19:12.000 Just as a black person should not be forced to accept responsibility For things that black people do that are wrong, white people should not be forced to accept responsibility for things that white people do that are wrong or have done in the past.
00:19:22.000 If you are looking to fix things, there's a basic rule in marriage.
00:19:26.000 A basic rule in marriage is when you're having an argument, don't say, you always act.
00:19:30.000 You always treat me like this.
00:19:32.000 This is like the first rule of marital counseling.
00:19:34.000 Why?
00:19:34.000 Because it's not specific.
00:19:35.000 It's not a problem you can solve.
00:19:36.000 And usually it's inaccurate, because people don't always do anything.
00:19:39.000 Instead, you have to say, what is the exact problem that we have, and how do we solve this problem that is right in front of us?
00:19:45.000 If you're just going to suggest, without evidence, that every single instance of police brutality is indicative of broader American racism, And by the way, every instance of a black person killing a white person is not indicative of a bigger problem.
00:19:57.000 It's just an individual incident.
00:19:58.000 But every instance of a white person killing a black person is indicative of broader American historical racism.
00:20:02.000 None of this follows.
00:20:03.000 None of this follows.
00:20:04.000 And it does not help when you trot out spokespeople like Al Sharpton, the worst race baiter of modern American history.
00:20:09.000 Al Sharpton completely falsified a rape case about Tawana Bradley.
00:20:13.000 Al Sharpton was involved in inciting the riots, in my opinion, in Crown Heights in 1991 that ended with the murder of an Orthodox Jew.
00:20:20.000 He literally went out in front of a crowd and said that if a Jew wanted to fight him, pin back your yarmulke and come on over.
00:20:27.000 Al Sharpton was involved in the incitement of the burning of Freddy's Fashion Mart, in my opinion, again, in New York City in 1996, when he suggested that Jewish interlopers were taking over real estate in New York.
00:20:39.000 That guy, and the guy, I mean, his shtick is that he goes to businesses, he claims that they're racist, and then if they sign a check to his fund, he leaves them alone.
00:20:47.000 This is Al Sharpton's shtick.
00:20:48.000 So am I going to listen to him?
00:20:49.000 Nobody has made more money off of the lie of systemic American racism than Al Sharpton.
00:20:54.000 Nobody has made more money off of it than Al Sharpton.
00:20:56.000 So using him as your spokesperson is a mistake.
00:20:57.000 So Al Sharpton yesterday made a statement in which he suggested that ever since 401 years ago, the reason we could never be who we wanted and dreamed of being is you kept your knee on our neck for 400 years.
00:21:09.000 Now, Americans literally kept their knees on the necks of black people all the way up through the Civil War and then in the South through Jim Crow.
00:21:17.000 But Al Sharpton has had no one's knee on his neck.
00:21:19.000 Al Sharpton has made a very, very lucrative career out of blackmailing people so that he would leave them alone.
00:21:25.000 He says, we were smarter than the underfunded schools you put us in, but you had your knee on our neck.
00:21:28.000 We could run corporations and not hustle in the street, but you had our knee on our neck.
00:21:31.000 Okay, what is the policy knee?
00:21:33.000 So we can all be on the same page.
00:21:34.000 What is the policy knee that is on the neck of black people right now?
00:21:37.000 If you can't name it, then I'm going to have a hard time taking very seriously Al Sharpton's contentions.
00:21:44.000 This is the problem that I have with this program.
00:21:45.000 If you want to march against police brutality, cops are marching against police brutality.
00:21:49.000 Everybody is against police brutality.
00:21:51.000 But the vaguer the charge, the harder it is to rebut.
00:21:53.000 And that, I think, is the purpose.
00:21:55.000 That is the goal here.
00:21:56.000 The vaguer the charge, the harder it is to rebut.
00:21:58.000 And that is why vague charges are being made.
00:22:01.000 So, Kihana Mariah Ross, a professor of African American Studies, has a piece of the New York Times called, Call It What It Is, Anti-Blackness.
00:22:08.000 She says it's not racism.
00:22:09.000 She says the right term is anti-blackness.
00:22:11.000 She says, to be clear, racism isn't a meaningless term, but it's a catch-all that can encapsulate anything, from black people being denied fair access to mortgage loans to Asian students being burned, burdened with a model minority label.
00:22:20.000 It's not specific.
00:22:21.000 Anti-blackness is one way some black scholars have articulated what it means to be marked as black in an anti-black world.
00:22:27.000 It's more than just racism against black people.
00:22:29.000 That oversimplifies and defangs it.
00:22:30.000 It's a theoretical framework that illuminates society's inability to recognize our humanity, the disdain, disregard, and disgust for our existence.
00:22:36.000 Okay, evidence, please.
00:22:37.000 Evidence.
00:22:38.000 Seriously.
00:22:38.000 Disdain, disregard, and disgust for our existence.
00:22:40.000 We have active affirmative action programs at every major American university.
00:22:43.000 Because there is not disdain, disregard, and disgust for the existence of black people.
00:22:47.000 There's a desperate attempt to help black people in bad circumstances move up the ladder of success.
00:22:55.000 But the basic notion in America that anti-blackness is the defining feature, that again allows you to lay everything at the feet of an unspecified enemy.
00:23:04.000 And then we get in this column the usual trick, we're going to go back 150 years to slavery and then we're just going to fast forward as though nothing has changed in the interim.
00:23:11.000 Anti-Blackness describes the inability to recognize Black humanity.
00:23:14.000 It captures the reality that the kind of violence that saturates Black life is not based on any specific thing a Black person, better described as a person who has been racialized Black, did.
00:23:22.000 What does that even mean?
00:23:24.000 The violence we experience isn't tied to any particular transgression.
00:23:26.000 It's gratuitous and unrelenting.
00:23:29.000 Anti-Blackness covers the fact that society's hatred of Blackness, and also its gratuitous violence against Black people, is complicated by its need for our existence.
00:23:37.000 For example, for white people, again, better described as those who have been racialized white.
00:23:41.000 This is an easy way, by the way, of dismissing black conservatives and treating white liberals as though they are woke.
00:23:45.000 The abject inhumanity of the black reinforces their whiteness, their humanness, their power, their privilege, whether they're aware of it or not.
00:23:52.000 This is my favorite part.
00:23:53.000 Whether they're aware of it or not.
00:23:54.000 Okay, so now we're ghost hunting.
00:23:55.000 You're a racist, even if you don't know you're a racist.
00:23:55.000 Now we are.
00:23:57.000 I can't explain why you're a racist, but I know you are.
00:23:59.000 Because whether you're aware of it or not, I know that out there, there's a bunch of people who are just anti-black.
00:24:05.000 And the fact that you exist is evidence, as a white person, that anti-blackness exists.
00:24:09.000 Like, the vagary is the enemy of unity.
00:24:12.000 If you want people to come together, you have to make a specific proposal.
00:24:15.000 If you want people to actually move beyond a problem, you have to make a specific proposal for a solution.
00:24:20.000 That's what's so irritating about this.
00:24:22.000 Because the only specific proposals I've seen, things like limiting qualified immunity, or stopping police unions from negotiating bad contracts, I agree with those!
00:24:31.000 Okay, but nobody wants to actually acknowledge that the right agrees on a lot of those points, so instead it's, well, if you don't agree on the broader point that America is, broadly speaking, racist, then you're part of the problem.
00:24:41.000 Now it seems to me that A big part of the problem here is the deliberate attempt to paint a vague picture of what the problem is in the first place such that the goalposts can move ad nauseum.
00:24:50.000 They can just move randomly.
00:24:52.000 Everything becomes racist so long as people on the left suggest that it is racist and the goalposts consistently recede.
00:24:57.000 It doesn't, like, perfect example, college campuses.
00:25:01.000 The reality is that on college campuses, no place in America has more accusations of racism than college campuses.
00:25:08.000 These are also the most woke places on the planet.
00:25:10.000 So if you think that acknowledging white privilege, which is like the de rigueur move on campuses, that if acknowledging white privilege on America's college campuses has somehow alleviated the problem of accusations of racism or alleviated racism itself, I beg to differ.
00:25:25.000 There is no evidence of this whatsoever.
00:25:27.000 Because again, the problem is being used as a club.
00:25:30.000 And again, the problem is not even being specifically explained.
00:25:34.000 What is the problem?
00:25:35.000 And don't tell me bad things happening to black people is the problem.
00:25:39.000 Bad things happen to everybody.
00:25:41.000 And the question is why they happen and how we alleviate the problem.
00:25:45.000 If you can't specify exactly where the problem is coming from, better than racism We're anti-blackness that nobody knows about, and I can't name a policy, and I can't name a person, I can't name who did the bad thing.
00:25:55.000 If somebody came to your house, and if you called the police...
00:25:59.000 And let's assume a world in which the police are good, okay?
00:26:02.000 Like they normally are.
00:26:03.000 You call the police, and somebody, and they come to your door, and they say, okay, what's the problem?
00:26:08.000 And you say, the problem is a bad thing just happened to me.
00:26:11.000 And they say, okay, what's the bad thing that happened to you?
00:26:13.000 And you can't really specify the bad thing that happened to you, and you can't specify who did it, and you can't specify what exactly happened.
00:26:20.000 What are you supposed to do?
00:26:21.000 Is this a problem-solving routine, or is this just an expression, a venting of spleen at inequality?
00:26:28.000 And inequality is a reality, but it is not necessarily an inequity.
00:26:35.000 By the way, worth noting that anybody who thinks that the problem is alleviated by accepting your white privilege is full of it.
00:26:42.000 Bill de Blasio has spent the entire last week allowing rioting and looting to overtake his city.
00:26:46.000 His daughter was arrested at a protest and he said he was proud of her.
00:26:50.000 Bill de Blasio has spent, he did full speeches talking about his evil, horrible white privilege.
00:26:54.000 Bill de Blasio got booed at a vigil for George Floyd yesterday.
00:26:57.000 So well done on buying off everybody who you thought was going to appreciate your newfound wokeness.
00:27:03.000 Let us welcome, with respect, the mayor of New York City, Mayor Bill de Blasio.
00:27:15.000 And First Lady Sha'Crain McRae.
00:27:18.000 Again!
00:27:21.000 We say respect!
00:27:24.000 We say respect!
00:27:26.000 Say it with me!
00:27:26.000 Respect!
00:27:28.000 Respect!
00:27:29.000 Okay, so the people at the rally have to be told to respect the mayor, who is the wokest mayor in America.
00:27:36.000 So well done, everybody.
00:27:37.000 Problem solved, right?
00:27:39.000 Problem solved.
00:27:40.000 What's hilarious is that Democrats made the pitch that America is systemically racist, that they can't name who's doing the racism or what the policy is.
00:27:46.000 Just elect us and we'll alleviate it.
00:27:47.000 Has it been alleviated in New York?
00:27:49.000 Has it been alleviated in Washington, D.C.?
00:27:51.000 Has it been alleviated in L.A.?
00:27:52.000 All Democrats governing it.
00:27:54.000 I haven't noticed.
00:27:55.000 Okay, meanwhile, the performative woke crowd has taken over major American institutions.
00:28:00.000 The culture wars are ongoing and the culture wars are bloody.
00:28:04.000 There are people like me who have been speaking on college campuses for a long time and pointing out the problems that exist on America's college campuses for a long time, particularly the problems of safe spaces and microaggressions.
00:28:15.000 And if you say something I don't like, you're hurting me and you're creating a danger.
00:28:19.000 And there's a general attempt by many in the media and by many on the left, cancel culture doesn't exist.
00:28:24.000 Cancel culture isn't real.
00:28:26.000 Well, it turns out that it actually is.
00:28:28.000 And not only that, there are a bunch of people on the right like, well, is it really a problem that it's happening on campuses?
00:28:32.000 After all, these kids will one day enter the real world.
00:28:34.000 And in the real world, they won't be able to get away with this bullcrap.
00:28:38.000 In the real world, they will actually have to undertake to understand opposing points of view.
00:28:43.000 Well, some of us have been warning you that what starts in academia doesn't stay in academia, and that the ridiculous social justice warrior, censorious culture was not just going to stay in the academy, it was going to leave and take over the institutions.
00:28:55.000 And that the Maoist cultural revolution that you are seeing at America's major institutions is ongoing.
00:28:59.000 It's so hilarious, by the way.
00:29:01.000 Half of the Vox writing team is now realizing the cancel culture exists.
00:29:04.000 They spent like years denying that it exists.
00:29:05.000 Now I've seen in the last day, half of the writers over at Vox, a very left-wing publication, say, oh, by the way, this cancel culture thing, it's not great.
00:29:12.000 Why?
00:29:12.000 It's not great.
00:29:13.000 Well, because of what just happened over at the New York Times.
00:29:15.000 So I'm gonna explain what happened over at the New York Times.
00:29:17.000 And it is a perfect and ridiculous example of how when you start with the premise that America is systemically evil, And that America is systemically racist, and then you suggest that America's rights, rights to free speech, rights to freedom of expression, that those rights fall unequally on people because of the innate inequality in American life, then all you have to do is curb those rights and make the rights available only to people who have been historically victimized.
00:29:40.000 That's the injustice that has to be done today to correct for the injustices of the past.
00:29:44.000 This is a case first made by Herbert Marcuse, the radical Marxist professor from the 1960s, when he suggested that what you really needed, what you really needed was repression of opposing viewpoints.
00:29:56.000 He called it repressive tolerance.
00:29:58.000 You need repressive tolerance.
00:29:59.000 You need a situation in which tolerance of the left-wing viewpoint is exacerbated and intolerance of right-wing viewpoints is put down because that has to be silenced because freedom of speech is actually bad because if the right people, if people who are bad use freedom of speech, those people could actually win.
00:30:15.000 So we have to silence those people such that marginalized voices can speak.
00:30:18.000 That perspective and allowing the non-marginalized voices to speak, allowing right-wingers to Is a threat to your life.
00:30:24.000 That perspective has taken over the New York Times.
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00:31:51.000 All right, we're going to get to the unbelievable takeover of the New York Times editorial board.
00:31:55.000 Basically, Nikole Hannah-Jones is now the editor of the New York Times.
00:31:57.000 I mean, that's essentially what we have realized.
00:32:00.000 She's not one of the editors, she is the editor.
00:32:01.000 And she is determining all policy.
00:32:03.000 The woke staff at the New York Times, and this is happening at a lot of major companies.
00:32:07.000 If you've been noticing a lot of the major corporations issuing statements, that's because they have a lot of woke interns who are basically telling them that if they don't, then they're gonna be very, very angry at them.
00:32:15.000 And the silence is violence movement is gaining speed.
00:32:19.000 I actually have, so I go to a gym out here when we're in non-pandemic times.
00:32:23.000 The head of the gym emailed me yesterday and said he had received a cancellation from somebody, not because he had said anything bad, but because he did not put out a corporate statement about Black Lives Matter in the middle of this.
00:32:33.000 So the person, like, he found the one person who's apparently sitting at home going, I need corporate virtue signaling or I will not patronize your business.
00:32:40.000 Okay, we're gonna get to this in just one second.
00:32:40.000 Ridiculous.
00:32:42.000 First, 2020.
00:32:44.000 Remember that Donald Trump was actually impeached this year?
00:32:47.000 You know how long this year has been?
00:32:48.000 Like, so long that Donald Trump was impeached this year, and that was 127 years ago.
00:32:52.000 That's how long this year has been.
00:32:54.000 We have seen an impeachment.
00:32:55.000 We have seen presidential debates.
00:32:56.000 We have seen Bernie Sanders climb to the top of the rankings and collapse.
00:32:59.000 We have seen a global pandemic.
00:33:01.000 We have seen race riots in our streets.
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00:34:59.000 Alrighty, so the move toward America is evil, systemically racist, and therefore the only way to fix that systemic racism is to shut down all the voices we don't like.
00:35:17.000 That move is being made by the New York Times staff, by the woke staff at the New York Times.
00:35:22.000 And understand, they don't actually think.
00:35:24.000 That right-wing perspectives are quote-unquote violent.
00:35:26.000 They don't.
00:35:27.000 They don't actually think that.
00:35:28.000 I think there are some of them who do.
00:35:29.000 Some of them are so delusional that they believe that if they print an editorial from Tom Cotton that that is actual violence to people.
00:35:35.000 I think most of them just don't like the viewpoint and they are using the excuse of Your viewpoint is inherently unjust.
00:35:41.000 An unjust viewpoint means that you are exacerbating the systemic inequalities of the United States.
00:35:46.000 Therefore, we have every right to ban what you are saying.
00:35:49.000 And every obligation, not just right, every obligation to ban what you are saying.
00:35:53.000 So it is not really a threat of violence.
00:35:55.000 It is the belief that the only way to make a better America is to repress voices that you don't like.
00:36:00.000 And listen, every publication has editorial standards.
00:36:02.000 But if you are saying that you cannot print an op-ed from a sitting United States Senator, Tom Cotton, A Harvard Law graduate who is writing a piece, served in the military, writing a piece about the use of the military against rioting and looting.
00:36:16.000 A viewpoint, by the way, agreed to by polling data, by six in 10 Americans, that you cannot run that piece, and that it's bad to run that piece, you are not, only not in the mainstream.
00:36:24.000 You are fully insane.
00:36:26.000 You are fully crazy.
00:36:27.000 Okay, but that is the way that a lot of these organizations are being run.
00:36:30.000 We saw the same thing with The Atlantic.
00:36:32.000 That organization, run by the execrable Jeffrey Goldberg, hired Kevin Williamson from National Review to write, and then after some woke staffers decided that Kevin Williamson was bad, bad, they fired him.
00:36:42.000 Well, now you're seeing this over at The New York Times.
00:36:44.000 So yesterday, There is a big brouhaha because Tom Cotton wrote this op-ed suggesting that it was time to send in the troops to restore order during rioting and looting.
00:36:53.000 He did make a distinction between protesters and rioters and looters, but people at the New York Times don't make that distinction because they think that the rioters and looters are justified in tearing down the institutions of America.
00:37:03.000 So a bunch of members of the New York Times woke staff tweeted out the same thing.
00:37:07.000 As I mentioned yesterday, they all did the college, this is all college bullcrap.
00:37:11.000 It's all college bullcrap.
00:37:12.000 I've been on enough campuses to know this.
00:37:13.000 I visited dozens and dozens, probably a hundred campuses over the course of the last four years.
00:37:17.000 They all do this.
00:37:18.000 It's ridiculous.
00:37:19.000 These campuses are replete with this kind of woke nonsense.
00:37:22.000 And one of the things that they do, as I mentioned yesterday, is the, if you agree with somebody, you can't clap because it might trigger somebody's post-traumatic stress disorder.
00:37:30.000 So instead you're supposed to snap.
00:37:32.000 And you're supposed to repeat slogans.
00:37:33.000 So if somebody says something, then you're supposed to—just like you saw at that de Blasio rally, somebody from the microphone says, respect, and you don't just give respect.
00:37:40.000 You're supposed to shout back, respect!
00:37:42.000 Or at the Bethesda, Maryland thing, you're supposed to repeat sentence by sentence what somebody is telling you, which is a religious woke incantation.
00:37:48.000 Okay, so the entire New York Times staff apparently decides to tweet out the same thing.
00:37:52.000 Running this puts black New York Times staff in danger.
00:37:55.000 In danger!
00:37:56.000 If you're a black writer for the New York Times, Tom Cotton saying that using American military to put down riots is putting black staff at the New York Times in danger.
00:38:04.000 Why are they rioting and looting?
00:38:05.000 Are they flinging molotov cocktails at cop cars?
00:38:07.000 If not, they probably shouldn't feel super endangered by this.
00:38:10.000 But this became such an issue that the New York Times, they didn't pull down the piece.
00:38:15.000 They didn't issue a correction to the piece.
00:38:17.000 Instead, they issued a statement.
00:38:19.000 And here was their statement from their spokeswoman.
00:38:20.000 We've examined the piece and the process leading up to its publication.
00:38:20.000 woman.
00:38:23.000 This review made clear that a rushed editorial process led to publication of an op-ed that did not meet our standards.
00:38:29.000 As a result, we're planning to examine both short-term and long-term changes to include expanding our fact-checking operation and reducing the number of op-eds we publish.
00:38:37.000 So they're actually printing fewer op-eds because some woke staffers who were not willing to quit, by the way, If it was such a danger, they should have quit.
00:38:45.000 I've quit publications where I think that the publication is doing something deeply and terribly wrong.
00:38:49.000 I've done it myself.
00:38:50.000 None of these woke staffers were willing to quit the New York Times over apparently running a piece so dangerous it was putting their own staff's lives in danger.
00:38:57.000 None of them are willing to quit.
00:38:58.000 They're just willing to bitch about it to upper management so that the pusillanimous, cowardly upper management would apologize for running a piece that 58% of Americans agree with.
00:39:07.000 Really well done, well done.
00:39:08.000 By the way, how do you know they're lying?
00:39:09.000 You know they're lying because it's 27 hours later, 29 hours later.
00:39:14.000 This thing's been up for, I think, nearly two days, maybe 48 hours later.
00:39:17.000 They still have not issued a correction on the piece.
00:39:19.000 So if the piece was factually wrong, where's the correction?
00:39:22.000 They still haven't pulled it down, it's still up.
00:39:24.000 So this was just, please, please don't, please don't yell at us, please don't yell at us, it's so bad!
00:39:29.000 Why are you yelling at us?
00:39:30.000 We're woke, we're woke!
00:39:32.000 The New York Times staffers, they were leaking to other publications, news that people were canceling their subscriptions.
00:39:40.000 Wow.
00:39:41.000 Oh man.
00:39:42.000 First of all, I thought that generally speaking, you don't want your staffers leaking to outside publications.
00:39:47.000 That's just not something that is done.
00:39:48.000 If I found the staffers of the Daily Wire leaking to outside publications about internal business at the Daily Wire, they're fired like this.
00:39:53.000 That's how fast they are fired.
00:39:55.000 It's my company.
00:39:56.000 It's my business.
00:39:57.000 Okay, but they had staffers who are leaking this stuff out.
00:40:02.000 And the staffers were leaking out amazing, amazing news.
00:40:05.000 News like 200 people canceled their subscriptions inside of one hour.
00:40:10.000 Ooh, 200 people.
00:40:11.000 Well, if 200 people did a thing, that means that probably the 1 million New York Times subscribers, by the way, I think that's an underestimate.
00:40:18.000 It may be 2 million New York Times subscribers.
00:40:19.000 Clearly they're all canceling en masse.
00:40:22.000 The amount of cowardice in corporate America, even including in our press and especially in our press, it's stunning.
00:40:28.000 You want to know why Peloton is sending out little notices about woke culture?
00:40:31.000 Because they're afraid they might receive 10 tweets.
00:40:34.000 That's why.
00:40:35.000 Because all of these corporations are cowardly, and so they've decided they're going to bow to the notion of systemic racism.
00:40:40.000 By the way, what they don't understand is they're signing the death warrant for their own companies.
00:40:46.000 Because the woke culture is not satisfied with you making protestations of your innocence or of your guilt.
00:40:51.000 Once you say that you are responsible for systemic racism, do you think it stops with that admission?
00:40:57.000 Or do you think that now you're on the hook for every claim that people who claim that you are the problem are going to make?
00:41:02.000 The admission of guilt is not an alleviation of your responsibility, according to these folks.
00:41:09.000 The admission of guilt is the first step toward them wrecking you.
00:41:12.000 This is how these apologies work.
00:41:14.000 This is how these apologies work.
00:41:15.000 So Barry Weiss, who is one of the only sane people at the New York Times.
00:41:18.000 I don't know how she's lasted there that long.
00:41:20.000 I don't think she'll last much longer, to be frank with you, given the nature of the situation at the New York Times.
00:41:24.000 She tweeted out, The old guard lives by a set of principles we can broadly call civil libertarianism.
00:41:40.000 They assumed that they shared that worldview with the young people they hired, who called themselves liberals and progressives.
00:41:45.000 This was an incorrect assumption.
00:41:46.000 The new guard has a different worldview, one articulated best by John Haidt and Greg Lukianoff.
00:41:50.000 They call it safetyism, in which the right of people to feel emotionally and psychologically safe trumps what were previously considered core liberal values, like free speech.
00:41:59.000 I'm in no way surprised by what has now exploded into public view.
00:42:01.000 In a way, it's oddly comforting.
00:42:02.000 I feel less alone and less crazy trying to explain the dynamic to people.
00:42:05.000 What I am shocked by is the speed.
00:42:07.000 I thought it would take a few years, not a few weeks.
00:42:09.000 Here's one way to think about what's at stake.
00:42:10.000 The New York Times motto is, one group emphasizes the word all, the other emphasizes the word fit.
00:42:18.000 Okay, this is correct.
00:42:19.000 Naturally, everyone at the New York Times is like, that's not happening.
00:42:21.000 That's not happening.
00:42:23.000 Max Strasser says, I'm in the same meeting.
00:42:24.000 Barry is live tweeting.
00:42:26.000 This is inaccurate in both characterizations.
00:42:27.000 It's not a civil war.
00:42:28.000 It's an editorial conversation.
00:42:30.000 Oh, it's an editorial conversation that ends with you restricting your op-ed page, not pulling down a piece that supposedly is chock full of errors.
00:42:36.000 By the way, for the New York Times to say that their fact-checking is bad on the Tom Cotton piece, this is the same newspaper that printed the 1619 Project that made the suggestion that virtually everything in the American Revolution was designed to preserve slavery, which is insane.
00:42:50.000 Insane.
00:42:51.000 Fully insane.
00:42:51.000 They want to appeal itself for their trouble.
00:42:54.000 Pinch Solzberger, the idiot publisher of the New York Times, he put out a statement saying, I've already heard from many of you.
00:43:00.000 I will do more listening in the days ahead.
00:43:02.000 There will be a town hall tomorrow.
00:43:03.000 A town hall about running an op-ed from a sitting American senator.
00:43:08.000 They've run op-eds from Vladimir Putin.
00:43:10.000 They've run op-eds about why sex is better in communist countries.
00:43:13.000 And they can't run an op-ed from Tom Cotton saying that maybe you might need to use the military to put down civil insurrection?
00:43:20.000 Like, this is, it's crazy.
00:43:21.000 It's crazy.
00:43:23.000 He says, I believe in the principle of openness to a range of opinions, even those you may disagree with.
00:43:27.000 This piece was published in that spirit, but it's essential we listen and reflect on the concerns we're hearing, as we would with any piece that is the subject of significant criticism.
00:43:34.000 So just absolute, absolute cowardice.
00:43:36.000 Okay, how bad is the cancel culture?
00:43:38.000 How bad is the censorious culture?
00:43:41.000 There is a piece in the Washington Post today by Alyssa Rosenberg, who is one of the TV columnists.
00:43:48.000 And sometimes she writes interesting stuff.
00:43:50.000 This is not one of those times.
00:43:51.000 She has a piece titled, So the police are so bad that we should all stop watching Law & Order, because the police are evil.
00:44:01.000 We should all stop watching any show or movie that portrays the police as good, because we all know the police are actually brutal and racist.
00:44:07.000 Now, first of all, if you think there has not been a TV show or movie made about police brutality and racism, let me recommend every single police show ever made except for Law & Order and maybe Dragnet.
00:44:17.000 Every show made since NYPD Blue has taken on these issues.
00:44:20.000 Every.
00:44:21.000 Single.
00:44:22.000 One.
00:44:22.000 All of them.
00:44:24.000 But Alyssa Rosenberg suggested we have a generalized view of the police as good, and that's bad, and that needs to stop.
00:44:30.000 She says, for a century, Hollywood has been collaborating with police departments, telling stories that whitewash police shootings and valorizing an action hero's style of policing over the harder, less dramatic work of building relationships with the communities cops are meant to serve and protect.
00:44:43.000 Purely from a dramatic perspective, crime makes a story seem consequential.
00:44:46.000 Investigating crime generates action.
00:44:48.000 Solving crime provides for a morally and emotionally satisfying conclusion.
00:44:51.000 The result is an addiction to stories that portray police departments as more effective than they actually are, crime as more prevalent than it actually is, and police use of force as consistently justified.
00:45:01.000 And then she says we should cancel Dick Wolf's Chicago franchise of shows.
00:45:04.000 We should get rid of Law & Order SVU.
00:45:07.000 We should get rid of all of the shows that you like watching because obviously they are training you that the police are good.
00:45:12.000 Instead, we should all watch Brooklyn Nine-Nine because it's a reformist police show.
00:45:16.000 It's very, very important.
00:45:19.000 One way, one way forward might be to emphasize the dialogues.
00:45:23.000 And sometimes fierce struggles that take place within police departments.
00:45:25.000 The Shield follows the reign and eventual downfall of corrupt detective Vic Mackey.
00:45:28.000 So she likes The Shield, and she likes The Wire, but those are the only ones.
00:45:32.000 And even The Shield took too long to get to the point where the cops are actually bad.
00:45:36.000 We need only shows where the cops are bad.
00:45:38.000 Now, I have a question.
00:45:39.000 Should we also ban rap music?
00:45:41.000 So, for a long time, there was this idea, and it came from some elements of the right and some elements of the left, that rap music was causing people to be violent.
00:45:47.000 Video games, also causing people to be violent.
00:45:49.000 Then there was a bevy of social science, and it showed not so much.
00:45:52.000 Okay, so now we have a piece in the Washington Post suggesting we stop all police movies and TV shows.
00:45:57.000 There's a piece today in the New York Times talking about how we don't need any more novels or TV shows about cops who do the wrong things for the right reason.
00:46:05.000 We need to stop all of that.
00:46:06.000 No more hard-charging cops in novels and TV shows.
00:46:09.000 We need to stop all of this.
00:46:09.000 Instead, we need woke books.
00:46:11.000 More woke books.
00:46:13.000 That's what we need.
00:46:15.000 The censorship is... How fast is this taking place?
00:46:18.000 Incredibly fast.
00:46:19.000 Because cancel culture is real.
00:46:21.000 It exists.
00:46:22.000 It is ugly.
00:46:23.000 It is designed to destroy your freedoms.
00:46:25.000 Your freedoms to consume what you would like.
00:46:27.000 Your freedom to say what you would like.
00:46:28.000 Your freedom to read and watch what you would like.
00:46:31.000 In order so that all messages must mirror the same message.
00:46:35.000 Even if that message is factually untrue, such as that America was founded on slavery, not on freedom, or that America is systemically racist, rotten to the core.
00:46:44.000 Every message must be made to match this message.
00:46:47.000 It's not even enough for Drew Brees to apologize for saying that all he said was, I won't kneel for the American flag because I had grandfathers who fought in the military and the American flag stands for freedom.
00:46:57.000 He was forced to apologize, and then he was forced to apologize again.
00:47:01.000 He issued a second apology today.
00:47:03.000 Okay, they're coming for you.
00:47:04.000 They're coming to kill you.
00:47:07.000 Not literally speaking, figuratively speaking.
00:47:09.000 They're coming to finish your career.
00:47:11.000 They're coming at you.
00:47:13.000 Once you apologize for saying something as anodyne as the American flag is not worth kneeling for, the American flag is worth much more than that.
00:47:21.000 They'll never stop.
00:47:22.000 Shannon Sharpe, the former tight end for the Denver Broncos, he says he's never going to respect Drew Brees now for having said that kneeling for the American flag is bad.
00:47:31.000 Here was Shannon Sharpe yesterday.
00:47:33.000 Drew Brees still doesn't seem to get it.
00:47:34.000 Now, he issued an apology, Skip, but it's meaningless because the guys know that he spoke his heart the very first time around.
00:47:41.000 Correct.
00:47:41.000 Now, I don't know if I- I don't know what Drew's gonna do, but he probably should just go ahead and retire.
00:47:45.000 Now, he- it will never be the same.
00:47:49.000 What he said, they're gonna like, oh, yeah, you know- No.
00:47:52.000 They will never look at him the same because he spoke his heart and Skip- and what he said, it wasn't what he said, it's how he said it.
00:47:59.000 He was defiant.
00:48:01.000 I will never Respect the man.
00:48:05.000 So all respect has gone for Drew Brees for having said that he likes the American flag.
00:48:09.000 Once you apologize, did it solve the problem?
00:48:11.000 Did it?
00:48:12.000 Because I'm not getting that impression.
00:48:14.000 Once you bow to the performative woke crowd, once you bow to the social justice warriors, they're joffrey.
00:48:20.000 Okay, kneeling, bending the knee does not amount to an act of unity in front of social justice warriors who suggest that America is systemically racist.
00:48:28.000 Joffrey lops off the head of Ned.
00:48:30.000 Okay, that is what is going to happen for a country that decides that it is indeed endemically racist across every aspect of its humanity.
00:48:39.000 They can't explain why.
00:48:40.000 You can't explain the policies.
00:48:41.000 You can't explain the racists.
00:48:44.000 You're granting a premise that is going to end the country.
00:48:47.000 That is the danger here.
00:48:48.000 Not marching against police brutality, which is fine.
00:48:51.000 Not marching against individual instances of racism, which is fine.
00:48:55.000 Suggesting that America broadly writ is unjust.
00:48:58.000 That is a serious problem.
00:48:59.000 And that is a problem that's going to outlast whatever happens over the course of the next week or so.
00:49:03.000 Alrighty, we will be back here a little bit later today with two additional hours of content.
00:49:07.000 Otherwise, please, I told you last weekend, try not to burn down the country while we're gone for the weekend.
00:49:12.000 Can we try that again?
00:49:13.000 Like take two?
00:49:14.000 We'll see you here next week.
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