The Ben Shapiro Show - The Year Of The Wokescold | Ep. 686

00:00:00.000 Welcome back.

00:00:01.000 President Trump has himself a merry little Christmas, Mitt Romney decides to go after President Trump on his first day on the job, and Louis C.K.

00:00:07.000 gets clobbered by the Social Justice Warriors.

00:00:09.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:00:10.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

00:00:15.000 Well, welcome back.

00:00:16.000 I hope that you had a wonderful Christmas and a wonderful New Year's.

00:00:18.000 I know that I did, and I could not be more excited to be back here with you.

00:00:21.000 I know, sounds like I don't want to be here, but that's not true.

00:00:24.000 I actually do want to be here.

00:00:24.000 I want to be here with you.

00:00:25.000 We're going to get through this next year together because it's going to be one heck of a ride.

00:00:29.000 And we have a lot of news to fill you in on.

00:00:31.000 A lot happened over the last week and a half.

00:00:33.000 Some of it humorous, some of it tragic.

00:00:35.000 There'll be laughs.

00:00:36.000 There'll be smiles.

00:00:37.000 There'll be crying.

00:00:37.000 There'll be tears.

00:00:38.000 There'll be a lot going on in just a second.

00:00:39.000 But first, let's talk about the national debt.

00:00:42.000 $1.2 trillion.

00:00:43.000 That's how much was added to the national debt in fiscal year 2018.

00:00:46.000 Economists say that by the end of 2019, we will be spending more on the interest on our national debt than we spend on Medicare.

00:00:51.000 And by 2023, more than we spend on the military.

00:00:54.000 As balloon payments become due, you should be asking yourself, what exactly is the impact on the U.S.

00:00:58.000 dollar going to be?

00:00:59.000 And what is that impact going to be on your investment?

00:01:01.000 So what's your plan?

00:01:02.000 Can you afford another hit to your retirement?

00:01:04.000 Like the last downturn when the S&P dropped 50%?

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00:01:59.000 Okay, so it is a brand new year, and there's a lot of debate already about whether 2019 is going to be 2018 part two, the revenge, or whether it's going to be part one of 2020.

00:02:08.000 Pretty obviously it's going to be part one of 2020 because everybody is already running for president.

00:02:13.000 Everybody is already trying to figure out whether President Trump is even going to stick around to run again for president.

00:02:18.000 The answer is probably yes.

00:02:19.000 But President Trump had himself a merry little Christmas.

00:02:22.000 He spent the Christmas of his life in the White House by himself.

00:02:27.000 Yeah, basically waiting out the government shutdown and tweeting furiously from the Oval Office.

00:02:32.000 So he had himself a lot of fun.

00:02:33.000 He was there for Christmas.

00:02:35.000 He was there for New Year's.

00:02:36.000 And that led him to send out a bunch of tweets, a bunch of videos talking about what he's done so far.

00:02:43.000 Now, all of that is fine.

00:02:44.000 The president has accomplished a great many things in his first couple of years in office.

00:02:48.000 Remember, he's only been in office for a little under two years, which is incredible.

00:02:51.000 So for President Trump, it's sort of like there's Trump years and then there's regular years.

00:02:55.000 So in regular years, it's only been like a couple of years of President Trump's presidency.

00:02:58.000 In Trump years, it's been at least 200 years of President Trump's presidency.

00:03:02.000 Time has warped completely.

00:03:03.000 President Trump has actually been president since 1733 in regular years.

00:03:08.000 But in Trump years, he's only been president for like two years.

00:03:11.000 So there's that.

00:03:11.000 But President Trump, I just want to wish you a very, very happy New Year.

00:03:15.000 It's going to be a great year.

00:03:16.000 Complicated, but great.

00:03:16.000 cut for Twitter.

00:03:17.000 Here's what it sounded like.

00:03:18.000 I just want to wish you a very, very happy new year.

00:03:21.000 It's going to be a great year.

00:03:23.000 Complicated, but great.

00:03:25.000 I will tell you, there has never been an administration, and I'm very proud of this, that's done more than the Trump administration in the first two years of office.

00:03:35.000 We've had a great two years.

00:03:37.000 I'm working hard for you.

00:03:39.000 I'm fighting for you.

00:03:40.000 We're going to win.

00:03:41.000 We're going to win all the way.

00:03:42.000 We're going to win at everything we do.

00:03:44.000 So happy new year, and let's enjoy the next year, and then we're going to enjoy the following year, and then we have four more.

00:03:52.000 And everything is going to be so beautiful.

00:03:54.000 Thank you very much.

00:03:55.000 Have a fantastic new year.

00:03:58.000 President Trump then tweeted out about all of his accomplishments.

00:04:01.000 He said, listen, everything's been great so far.

00:04:03.000 You guys just don't appreciate, you don't appreciate it.

00:04:05.000 You don't know it.

00:04:06.000 You don't know anything.

00:04:07.000 It's been great.

00:04:08.000 I don't know why you didn't get it.

00:04:09.000 So he tweeted out that everybody should calm down and enjoy the ride.

00:04:12.000 He tweeted out in all capital letters, This is his first tweet of the new year.

00:04:17.000 All capital letters.

00:04:18.000 Great things are happening for the country.

00:04:19.000 Nothing says to me, calm down and enjoy the ride, like somebody tweeting that at me in all capital letters.

00:04:22.000 years for those not suffering from Trump derangement syndrome.

00:04:25.000 So calm down and enjoy the ride.

00:04:27.000 All capital letters.

00:04:28.000 Great things are happening for the country.

00:04:30.000 Nothing says to me, calm down and enjoy the ride like somebody tweeting that at me in all capital letters.

00:04:36.000 I know that if I'm in the back of the car and somebody in the front of the car says, calm down and enjoy the ride.

00:04:40.000 Nothing is going to make me calm down and enjoy the ride quite like that.

00:04:44.000 But there was this feeling of incipient panic that was building up in the last days of 2018.

00:04:49.000 And now it has carried forward into 2019.

00:04:53.000 President Trump's furious tweets over the break were not helpful that way again.

00:04:57.000 The president has accomplished a lot of things in his first couple of years in office.

00:05:00.000 It's not supremely helpful to be leading off his re-election campaign with him kind of hunkered down in the White House just tweeting whatever comes into his mind.

00:05:09.000 Right now, what the White House should be projecting is a feeling of invincibility, a feeling of calm, a feeling of collected collected goal-making and shared purpose.

00:05:20.000 And instead, what we're sort of getting is President Trump feeling isolated and tweeting out a lot of things.

00:05:25.000 Now, a lot of things he's tweeting are true, by the way.

00:05:26.000 So the president, for example, was tweeting out a lot about the border.

00:05:29.000 Remember, we're still in the middle of a government shutdown.

00:05:31.000 That shutdown was initiated by the Democrats. 0.80

00:05:33.000 There's been a lot of talk about President Trump initiating the shutdown because he was foolish enough to claim on national television that he wanted to own the shutdown.

00:05:39.000 But in reality, President Trump did not really initiate the shutdown.

00:05:43.000 It was the Democrats who initiated the shutdown in the sense that they could just give him $5 billion for his wall and then be done with it.

00:05:49.000 He'd claim victory.

00:05:50.000 They'd be able to go home and sleep at night.

00:05:52.000 Instead, they've decided to deny him that funding.

00:05:54.000 So this led President Trump to tweet out a lot about the border wall.

00:05:56.000 Now, this would be a decent use of Twitter if it were not for all of his other use of Twitter.

00:06:00.000 He tweeted out, President and Mrs. Obama built, has a 10-foot wall around their D.C.

00:06:05.000 mansion and compound, I agree, totally necessary for their safety and security.

00:06:09.000 U.S.

00:06:09.000 needs the same thing, slightly larger version.

00:06:12.000 Okay, well that's fine.

00:06:13.000 Everybody went nuts.

00:06:13.000 How dare President Trump mention they have a wall around their home?

00:06:17.000 As though that's a security breach?

00:06:18.000 It's not a security breach, okay?

00:06:20.000 I have a wall around my home.

00:06:21.000 Most people have some sort of fence around their house, especially in California.

00:06:25.000 But President Trump then continued, The Democrats will probably submit a bill, being cute as always, which gives everything away but gives nothing to border security, namely the wall.

00:06:33.000 You see, without the border security, without the wall, there can be no border security.

00:06:36.000 The other stuff is just, by comparison, is just, by comparison, meaningless bells and whistles.

00:06:43.000 Remember this.

00:06:44.000 Throughout the ages, some things never get better and never change, President Trump tweeted.

00:06:48.000 You have walls and you have wheels.

00:06:50.000 It was always that way.

00:06:51.000 And it will always be that way.

00:06:53.000 Please explain to the Democrats, there can never be a replacement for a good, old-fashioned wall.

00:06:57.000 Well, first of all, you can have walls and you can have wheels and you can have fire.

00:07:00.000 These are great inventions of the past.

00:07:02.000 And President Trump, I can't wait to hear his essay on why the invention of fire was such a useful thing.

00:07:08.000 But all of this is not particularly terrible, right?

00:07:10.000 The President Trump going after the Democrats on the wall stuff is not particularly terrible.

00:07:13.000 It's just that the incessant nature of it is not good politics.

00:07:17.000 And this is going to become an issue for President Trump come 2020.

00:07:21.000 Because when it comes to the issues, President Trump has been pretty good.

00:07:24.000 As I've said many times, I did not expect him to govern this conservatively when he was elected in 2016.

00:07:29.000 He has governed far more conservatively than I thought he was going to.

00:07:33.000 With that said, the character flaws that the president has evidenced are going to be the chief reason why people are uncomfortable with him.

00:07:41.000 It's what's going to hurt him at the polls.

00:07:42.000 It's what's going to alienate people come 2020.

00:07:45.000 It's that stuff he has to get under control.

00:07:47.000 And it's also where the Democrats are putting all their heavy pressure.

00:07:49.000 They're putting all their heavy pressure right now on the character point.

00:07:52.000 Leading that charge was General Stanley McChrystal.

00:07:54.000 He's going to be on our Sunday special this week, by the way.

00:07:57.000 General McChrystal was on ABC's This Week over the weekend and he basically slammed President Trump's character.

00:08:02.000 Here he was talking with the very objective journalist George Stephanopoulos.

00:08:07.000 I think it's important for me to work for people who I think are basically honest, who tell the truth as best they know it.

00:08:17.000 You think he's a liar?

00:08:19.000 I don't think he tells the truth.

00:08:21.000 Is Trump immoral in your view?

00:08:23.000 I think he is.

00:08:24.000 If we want to be governed by someone we wouldn't do a business deal with because their background is so shady.

00:08:32.000 If we're willing to do that, then that's in conflict with who I think we are.

00:08:36.000 So there's McChrystal Sess with Martha Raddatz on ABC's This Week, going after Trump's character.

00:08:41.000 Now, this was always going to be Trump's Achilles heel, was going to be the character point.

00:08:46.000 It has been for a very long time.

00:08:48.000 President Trump has never been a guy of supreme moral fiber, shall we say.

00:08:52.000 And this was one of his selling points in 2016 was, you don't have to worry about me pulling my punches.

00:08:57.000 I'm not going to pull my punches.

00:08:58.000 I've never pulled my punches.

00:08:59.000 I'm not that kind of guy.

00:09:00.000 Well, he didn't pull his punches against General McChrystal either.

00:09:03.000 He then tweeted out in response, and this is where, again, a little bit of wherewithal from the president would be a lot more useful than what he is doing here, because he says something pretty immoral here.

00:09:12.000 He says, General McChrystal got fired like a dog by Obama.

00:09:16.000 And he puts General in quotation marks and scare quotes.

00:09:20.000 First of all, General McChrystal is an actual general who served 34 years in the military under some very trying circumstances.

00:09:27.000 And he was fired by Obama because he was very critical of Obama's strategy in Afghanistan because he said Obama wasn't being hawkish enough in Afghanistan.

00:09:34.000 So it's not like he got fired for a bad reason.

00:09:36.000 But President Trump goes off on him.

00:09:37.000 He says, General McChrystal got fired like a dog by Obama. 1.00

00:09:40.000 Last assignment a total bust for a big dumb mouth. 1.00

00:09:44.000 Hillary lover. 1.00

00:09:46.000 And which is weird.

00:09:47.000 Hillary hasn't had a lover in Decades. 1.00

00:09:49.000 But in any case, President Trump...

00:09:52.000 I'm tweeting out about how General McChrystal isn't an actual general, obviously not a great look for the President of the United States, saying that he was fired like a dog.

00:10:01.000 Again, as I've said before on the show, President Trump loves saying that people were fired like a dog.

00:10:06.000 I don't know where he grew up where dogs were fired.

00:10:10.000 I've never actually seen a dog fired.

00:10:12.000 It'd be weird, right?

00:10:14.000 You're doing a terrible job, dog. 0.51

00:10:16.000 You're fired. 0.99

00:10:16.000 But in any case, President Trump says that General McChrystal was fired like a dog. 0.99

00:10:21.000 Again, the point that I'm making here is a broader one, which is that if President Trump wishes to win re-election, he is going to have to convince the American people that he is actually fit for the job as a character.

00:10:31.000 It's not just that he's superior to the Democrat, but now we've actually seen him in the presidency, he said before he was elected he could be Lincoln-esque, he could be like Washington, might not be the way that he's used to working, but he could kind of grow into the office, and every day he proves, on a character level, that he's not actually doing that.

00:10:46.000 Now, does that mean Does that mean that President Trump can't win re-election?

00:10:49.000 No, of course not.

00:10:50.000 Democrats could win somebody radical.

00:10:51.000 They could run somebody crazy.

00:10:52.000 The economy could continue to be good.

00:10:55.000 Circumstances could continue to benefit President Trump.

00:10:57.000 Lots of things could happen.

00:10:59.000 Would it be easier for President Trump if he could somehow change his character?

00:11:02.000 Yes.

00:11:03.000 Is that going to happen?

00:11:04.000 No, it's not going to happen.

00:11:05.000 And that raises a question for Republicans.

00:11:07.000 And that question was really raised by Mitt Romney over the weekend.

00:11:10.000 So Romney is the new incoming senator from Utah.

00:11:13.000 And let's face a fact about Mitt Romney.

00:11:16.000 It was Mitt Romney's defeat in 2012 that I think broke the country.

00:11:19.000 Because Mitt Romney was maybe the most decent guy to run for president of the United States in my lifetime.

00:11:23.000 He was as clean as the driven snow in his personal life.

00:11:26.000 He was a guy who was moderate in his politics, so moderate that he had been governor of Massachusetts, and well-beloved by a lot of members of the left, who had given him strange new respect up to the point when he won the Republican nomination.

00:11:36.000 They proceeded to destroy him, slander him, call him a bad human being, and then he lost to Barack Obama in Obama's re-elect effort in 2012.

00:11:44.000 And that led Republicans to believe, listen, if they're going to drag somebody like Mitt Romney through the mud, If Romney's good character and five bucks would have bought him a cup of coffee in the 2012 election, then why do we need a guy of character in 2016 at all?

00:11:56.000 Let's just get the nastiest guy who can throw the most punches, and let's nominate that guy.

00:12:01.000 Well, now Mitt Romney is back, and he is criticizing President Trump on a character level. 0.93

00:12:05.000 And I'll explain why what he's doing here is tactically inept. 0.94

00:12:10.000 Why it's tactically inept.

00:12:11.000 Why you can criticize President Trump's character when President Trump says things that are character-free, like putting scare quotes around General when dealing with Stanley McChrystal.

00:12:19.000 Why, you can say that when President Trump does stuff that is bad, it's bad, but that's not the same thing as what Mitt Romney did today in the pages of the Washington Post.

00:12:27.000 I'll explain in just one second.

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00:13:46.000 Okay, so, Mitt Romney, His first day in office, so what does he decide to do?

00:13:49.000 Write an entire op-ed about how unpalatable President Trump is.

00:13:52.000 Now, there are those of us in the commentariat community whose job it is to actually comment when the president does good stuff and when the president does bad stuff.

00:13:59.000 I've been using the so-called good Trump, bad Trump model since 2015.

00:14:02.000 Since 2015, 2016, when President Trump was then just candidate Trump.

00:14:07.000 But Mitt Romney has been highly critical of Trump throughout.

00:14:09.000 He was very critical of him in 2016.

00:14:11.000 He gave a long speech about how he thought Trump was unfit to be President of the United States.

00:14:15.000 And then Trump thought about him for Secretary of State, picked Rex Tillerson instead, sort of humiliated him publicly.

00:14:20.000 And then Romney ran for Senate in Utah and took President Trump's endorsement. 0.93

00:14:24.000 And now Romney is turning back around on Trump and smacking him directly in the groin.

00:14:28.000 He has a piece today in the Washington Post titled, Now, here's the problem with what Mitt Romney is doing here.

00:14:39.000 I may agree with a lot of his points with regard to the president's character, but What he is doing is trying, essentially, to force Republicans, trying to force conservatives into now having to choose between, quote-unquote, conservatism and Trumpism.

00:14:52.000 It's a false choice.

00:14:54.000 It's a false choice.

00:14:55.000 He's trying to force people to have to choose between President Trump and conservatism.

00:14:59.000 And that may have been more of a choice in 2016, before Trump was president, but Trump is president now.

00:15:04.000 And Trump's given us a lot of very conservative policies.

00:15:06.000 Here's what Mitt Romney writes today.

00:15:08.000 And it does beg a particular question, which is whether Mitt Romney is going to try to primary President Trump come 2020.

00:15:13.000 Come 2020.

00:15:14.000 So Romney writes, the Trump presidency made a deep dissent in December.

00:15:17.000 The departures of Defense Secretary Jim Mattis and White House Chief of Staff John Kelly, the appointment of senior persons of lesser experience, the abandonment of allies who fight beside us, and the president's thoughtless claim that America has long been a sucker in world affairs all defined his presidency down.

00:15:31.000 It is well known that Donald Trump was not my choice for the Republican presidential nomination After he became the nominee, I hoped his campaign would refrain from resentment and name-calling.

00:15:40.000 It did not.

00:15:41.000 When he won the election, I hoped he would rise to the occasion.

00:15:43.000 His early appointments were encouraging, but on balance, his conduct over the past two years, particularly his actions last month, is evidence that the president has not risen to the mantle of the office.

00:15:52.000 Those are pretty strong words that the president hasn't risen to the mantle of the office, meaning basically he's still unfit for the presidency.

00:15:58.000 He says it's not that all of the president's policies have been misguided.

00:16:01.000 He was right to align U.S.

00:16:02.000 corporate taxes with those of global competitors, to strip out excessive regulations, to crack down on China's unfair trade practices, to reform criminal justice, to appoint conservative judges.

00:16:10.000 These are policies mainstream Republicans have promoted for years, but policies and appointments are only part of a presidency.

00:16:15.000 I'll continue by explaining more about Mitt Romney's perspective here in just a second and why he's doing it in the pages of the Washington Post and what this means for the sort of choice that is going to be set up falsely by Romney and by the press in 2020 for Republicans.

00:16:30.000 I'll explain that in just a second.

00:16:31.000 Mitt Romney says, to a great degree, a presidency shapes the public character of the nation.

00:16:36.000 A president should unite us and inspire us to follow our better angels.

00:16:39.000 A president should demonstrate the essential qualities of honesty and integrity and elevate the national discourse with comedy and mutual respect.

00:16:46.000 As a nation, we have been blessed with presidents who have called on the greatness of the American spirit.

00:16:49.000 With the nation so divided, resentful, and angry, presidential leadership in qualities of character is indispensable, and it is in this province where the incumbent's shortfall has been most glaring.

00:16:58.000 Then he talks about how in 2016, 84% of people in Germany, Britain, France, Canada, and Sweden believed the American president would do the right thing in world affairs.

00:17:05.000 One year later, that number had fallen to 16%.

00:17:06.000 I don't know why he's citing that poll.

00:17:08.000 Obama was terrible for foreign affairs, and who cares what the Germans have to say? 0.98

00:17:12.000 About American foreign policy.

00:17:14.000 But Romney continues.

00:17:16.000 He talks about America abdicating leadership, and then he talks about repairing our fiscal foundation.

00:17:20.000 Basically, this piece reads like Mitt Romney is interested in running for president again in 2020.

00:17:27.000 That's what it reads like.

00:17:28.000 He concludes his piece by saying, I remain optimistic about our future.

00:17:31.000 In an innovation age, Americans excel.

00:17:33.000 More importantly, noble instincts live in the hearts of Americans.

00:17:36.000 The people of this great land will eschew the politics of anger and fear if they are summoned to the responsibility by leaders in homes, in churches, in schools, in businesses, in government, who raise our sights and respect the dignity of every child of God, the ideal that is the essence of America.

00:17:47.000 So first of all, I want to argue with Romney's general perception of the presidency.

00:17:52.000 I don't think that the president really raises the level of the American people as a general rule.

00:17:57.000 I think the American people may raise the level of the president, but the president is a guy hired to do a particular job.

00:18:02.000 If you get your moral guidance from the president of the United States, I would suggest that you're looking to the wrong places.

00:18:07.000 If you get your moral guidance from your teachers, from your parents, from your family, from your pastor, from your priest or rabbi, that seems to make a lot more sense to me than getting your moral guidance from Barack Obama, Donald J. Trump, George W. Bush, or anybody else in what is a public governmental office.

00:18:24.000 But in any case, what Romney's doing here is really counterproductive.

00:18:27.000 Now, again, this is coming from someone who's been quite critical of President Trump's character.

00:18:31.000 But not in the pages of the Washington Post since President Trump became president.

00:18:36.000 And the reason for that is because what Romney is actually doing now is he's setting up the possibility of a primary run against Trump.

00:18:42.000 There's been a lot of talk about this from a certain segment of the Republican Party and it's a big mistake.

00:18:45.000 The reason that it's a big mistake is because basically what you are now suggesting, what the media will suggest is that a primary race between, say, Mitt Romney and Donald Trump is a race between true decency and conservatism versus the evil, evil Trump guy. 0.87

00:18:59.000 And then when Trump wins the primaries, it'll be, well, look at those deplorable Republicans.

00:19:03.000 They voted for Trump over Mitt Romney. 0.70

00:19:04.000 Look at those terrible, terrible Republicans, those evil, terrible people who voted for the incumbent president when they were given a choice of a more decent, kinder, gentler alternative.

00:19:13.000 When that isn't the actual calculus, because whoever runs against Trump in a primary is going to have to basically make three cases.

00:19:20.000 They're going to have to declare that they are a person of better character than Trump, which in all plausibility will be true probably.

00:19:27.000 They'll have to say they're a better representative of conservatism than Trump in 2020, which probably will not be true in terms of policy.

00:19:36.000 And then they'll have to say that they're more likely to win in 2020 than Trump, which is likely to be false.

00:19:43.000 And that's going to be the calculus that actual Republican voters do.

00:19:46.000 When they look at 2020, they're not just going to say in a vacuum, who would I prefer, Mitt Romney or Donald Trump?

00:19:51.000 They're going to look and say, Mitt Romney lost in 2012 and Trump won in 2016.

00:19:54.000 So I'm more likely to vote for the guy who I think is going to win, Trump.

00:19:58.000 They're going to look at Mitt Romney in 2012 versus Trump in 2020 and say, Trump has a record of appointing now, probably by that point, 100 federal judges.

00:20:07.000 Trump has a record of cutting regulations.

00:20:09.000 Trump has a record of rebuilding alliances in the Middle East.

00:20:11.000 President Trump has a record of criminal justice reform and movement of the U.S.

00:20:15.000 Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem and the rebuilding of the American military and, God willing, a decent economy.

00:20:20.000 And they're going to look at all those factors and they're going to say, I'll pick Trump over Romney.

00:20:24.000 But what Romney will have set up, and have done so in the pages of the Washington Post, is this false narrative that choosing Trump over a Romney or a John Kasich or somebody else in the Republican Party is just Republicans doubling down on Trump's lack of character, which is really not what's going on here.

00:20:39.000 And most people accept it.

00:20:40.000 In the middle of 2015, 2016, what Trump was as a human being.

00:20:44.000 Most people certainly since then know what he is as a human being.

00:20:48.000 I don't think there are a lot of Republicans sitting around thinking that this guy is somebody you'd recommend to be your pastor.

00:20:53.000 Somebody that you'd recommend to babysit your kids when you go out for dinner at night.

00:20:57.000 But they look at his record, they look at the fact that he beat Hillary Clinton, and they'd be likely to vote for him in a primary.

00:21:01.000 But what Romney is doing here is he is setting up a narrative that the left will use to club Republicans into submission, which is that if you vote for Trump in 2020, then this is because you're a bad person.

00:21:10.000 It reinforces the deplorables theme that Democrats used to their great advantage in 2016, and hope to use particularly to advantage with younger people in upcoming elections.

00:21:21.000 That's bad news.

00:21:22.000 And so what Romney is doing here is strategically inept, unless he believes that Trump is going to leave office in disgrace, in which case he's basically positioning to be the heir apparent and to pick up the mantle, saying, well, I stood to thwart Trump all these years, and now you should hand it over to me.

00:21:35.000 By the way, the chances of that happening are zero.

00:21:37.000 Republicans are not handing over the party to the guy who lost to Barack Obama in his re-elect effort in 2012.

00:21:42.000 It's not going to happen.

00:21:43.000 The general feeling among Republicans about Romney is that Romney is a perfectly serviceable, nice fellow who lost to Barack Obama and is really milquetoast.

00:21:51.000 And is spending more time ripping Trump these days than he is going after Democrats.

00:21:54.000 That's the general perception among Republicans.

00:21:57.000 Now, that's not to say that there aren't problems with the Republican view of Trump in certain quarters.

00:22:02.000 I think there are problems.

00:22:04.000 For example, today, Jerry Falwell did an interview in the Washington Post that is not great.

00:22:09.000 I'll explain that in just one second.

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00:23:33.000 Speaking of the attempt to paint Republicans as bad characters, Jerry Falwell Jr., who is the head of Liberty University, a great institution.

00:23:40.000 I love the students at Liberty U.

00:23:42.000 I spoke there last year.

00:23:43.000 It's really a fantastic, fantastic place.

00:23:46.000 But Jerry Falwell Jr.

00:23:47.000 is doing a poor job of representing Republicans when it comes to President Trump, particularly, again, playing into the narrative that Republicans don't need.

00:23:55.000 So as I say, going forward to 2020, the narrative that would benefit Republicans is President Trump changes character.

00:24:00.000 Barring that, the narrative that Republicans are going to want to push is, you may not like President Trump's character.

00:24:05.000 I may think that he's a bad character myself, but is he getting the job done?

00:24:09.000 So far, the answer is yes.

00:24:10.000 And so I'm not going to turn over the government to radical leftists simply to show my disdain for President Trump's character, which I have done every day since President Trump basically announced whenever he has done something wrong.

00:24:22.000 I don't have to throw the election to Elizabeth Warren or Kamala Harris in order to demonstrate that I don't like President Trump's tweeting.

00:24:29.000 And that is not a necessity of American government.

00:24:32.000 That seems like a better argument.

00:24:33.000 But unfortunately, there are Republicans like Mitt Romney who want to make this next election a choice between President Trump's character and conservatism, which is not an actual choice.

00:24:43.000 That's not the choice that's happening here.

00:24:44.000 And then there are people like Jerry Falwell Jr. who sort of want to force the same choice.

00:24:49.000 They want to suggest that President Trump is actually a godsend in every possible way.

00:24:53.000 So Jerry Falwell Jr.

00:24:54.000 has this long interview in the Washington Post when he talks about how President Trump is just spectacular.

00:25:01.000 And he was asked about whether Christians were supposed to support nice guys.

00:25:05.000 He said, it's a distortion of the teachings of Jesus to say that what he taught us to do personally to love our neighbors as ourselves, help the poor, can somehow be imputed on a nation.

00:25:12.000 Jesus never told Caesar how to run Rome.

00:25:14.000 He went out of his way to say, that's the earthly kingdom.

00:25:16.000 I'm about the heavenly kingdom and I'm here to teach you how to treat others, how to help others.

00:25:19.000 But when it comes to serving your country, you render under Caesar that which is Caesar's.

00:25:22.000 I have a real problem with this basic idea, which is that it's an Augustinian idea, this city of God, city of man distinction.

00:25:30.000 And it's not quite as firm as Jerry Falwell Jr. is.

00:25:33.000 is making it right here, which is basically that Christians have no say in how the nation is to be governed. 0.96

00:25:39.000 Rendering to Caesar what is Caesar's means that Christians should have no care about the character of their leaders is a very weird contention.

00:25:47.000 And then he talks about how there's literally nothing that President Trump could do that would endanger his support.

00:25:53.000 That's an amazing statement.

00:25:55.000 Again, people of principle?

00:25:57.000 Should always say the answer is yes.

00:25:58.000 There's always stuff that Trump could do to endanger my support.

00:26:01.000 He endangers my support every day when he picks up, when he decides to do something unpalatable.

00:26:08.000 You should feel the way about every politician, by the way.

00:26:10.000 Even politicians that you love.

00:26:11.000 Politicians that you love should endanger your support every time they go out every day, because one pretty fundamental element of faith is that you should have faith in God, but not in man.

00:26:20.000 To say that nothing President Trump could ever do would endanger your support is an amazing statement from a Christian leader.

00:26:26.000 But this is, again, reinforcing a narrative that the left wants, which is that it's either total fealty to Trump or conservatism and decency.

00:26:34.000 That's a false choice, and it's not a real choice, and it's not what's really going on right here.

00:26:38.000 Again, I think that Jerry Falwell Jr.

00:26:39.000 does a disservice when he does interviews.

00:26:42.000 Like this.

00:26:42.000 And again, this is the narrative that Democrats are going to try to push in 2020.

00:26:47.000 Now, the good news for Republicans is that Democrats are going to have a really tough time pushing this particular narrative in 2020 because they've become so radical themselves.

00:26:55.000 So the narrative Democrats want in 2020 is the reverse narrative of 2000.

00:26:59.000 In 2000, it was two years after the Clinton impeachment scandal and the Monica Lewinsky stuff.

00:27:07.000 And President Clinton was out of the picture, but Al Gore was now running for the White House, and George W. Bush was running on the basis of bringing character back to the Oval Office.

00:27:14.000 It's the same thing that Jimmy Carter did in 1976 when he ran against Gerald Ford.

00:27:18.000 It's time for us to bring character back to the White House.

00:27:21.000 That's usually a pretty successful tack, but in order to make that Claim you actually have to be some semblance of normal and moral.

00:27:29.000 And the problem for Democrats is that there aren't too many candidates in their ranks or anything remotely resembling normal and moral.

00:27:35.000 The latest case in point is Elizabeth Warren.

00:27:37.000 So Elizabeth Warren is she declared over the weekend.

00:27:41.000 That she wants to run for president, which is a shock to precisely no one.

00:27:43.000 She'd been sending smoke signals from her wigwam about it for legitimately years at this point. 0.97

00:27:48.000 So she announced that she would be running for president and then she said she was going to build a grassroots campaign and that she would be wandering the plains in search of both Buffalo and voters.

00:27:59.000 Here is Senator, very Native American, Elizabeth Warren, talking about exploring her presidential run in front of a garage before the Boston, the assembled Boston media.

00:28:07.000 Right now, Washington works great for the wealthy and the well-connected.

00:28:11.000 It's just not working for anyone else.

00:28:14.000 But I am optimistic.

00:28:16.000 I believe in what we can do together.

00:28:19.000 I'm going to build a grassroots campaign.

00:28:23.000 It's already got people from all across this country who are going to be part of it, and together we're going to make change.

00:28:31.000 And if people out there see it and want to be part of it, I hope they go to ElizabethWarren.com and join us, because this is how we're going to build the movement that will change America.

00:28:41.000 She is inspiring.

00:28:42.000 I mean, it's like her campaign manager went out there and said, OK, we want Hillary's campaign without the name recognition or the charisma. 0.52

00:28:47.000 Let's do that.

00:28:48.000 Let's just make that happen right there.

00:28:50.000 I mean, it was so bad, her presidential announcement, that not only did she have to avoid a question about her DNA and her Native American ancestry, which she did, she also tried to be a cool kid.

00:29:02.000 I'll show you the cool kid thing in a second.

00:29:04.000 Here was Elizabeth Warren being asked about her Native American DNA.

00:29:07.000 This is why the Democrats are going to have a little bit of a tough time.

00:29:11.000 arguing character against President Trump because they can't even get their own party on board with saying it's okay to be a particular genetic ancestry.

00:29:18.000 The reason Elizabeth Warren has to pretend to be Native American is because she doesn't rank high enough on the intersectionality scale for Democrats to care about her. 1.00

00:29:25.000 That's what's happening here.

00:29:26.000 She's out-Bernied by Bernie Sanders, she's out-Obama-ed by Beto O'Rourke, and she's out-intersectionality-ed by Kamala Harris.

00:29:33.000 So, she really has no path here.

00:29:35.000 I worry about electability.

00:29:36.000 enough.

00:29:36.000 She's not radical enough like Bernie Sanders, and she's not charming enough like Beto O'Rourke.

00:29:41.000 And so she is kind of forced into this weird corner where two years ago she was a hot thing, and now she's a nothing. 0.97

00:29:47.000 Here's Elizabeth Warren dodging the DNA question. 0.86

00:29:49.000 I worry about electability.

00:29:51.000 I worry about a campaign more about Native American ancestry than the middle class. 0.78

00:29:54.000 You know, look, I'm in this fight because I understand what's happening to working families.

00:30:03.000 I grew up in a paycheck-to-paycheck family, and my big chance was a commuter college that cost $50 a semester.

00:30:11.000 I run for office because I'm grateful down to my toes for the opportunities that were given to me, and I am determined that we will give those same opportunities, not just to some of our kids, but to all of our kids.

00:30:24.000 Yeah, I'm sure she's going to just blow Trump out of the water with that kind of character and charisma, I'm sure.

00:30:29.000 My favorite part of her campaign is that she opened up by then doing an Alexander Ocasio-Cortez-style Instagram.

00:30:34.000 So, AOC, we will call her AOC because that's the thing now, right?

00:30:37.000 They've gotten notorious.

00:30:38.000 We've got RBG, we've got AOC, we've got all of these initial political leaders.

00:30:44.000 But AOC does these political Instagrams where she cooks instant pot recipes while taking questions from her mailbag. 1.00

00:30:52.000 My instant pot recipe would basically be cereal and milk, by the way, if I were to do an Instagram like this.

00:30:56.000 But in any case, I love that Elizabeth Warren, she's basically the Steve Buscemi character from Saturday Night Live, How Do You Do Fellow Kids?

00:31:04.000 She's walking into the Instagram and she is now doing Instant pot recipes in her kitchen while drinking beer.

00:31:12.000 I don't know if you remember in 2016, Hillary Clinton went to Cedar Rapids and she had like a can of some sort of juice or something.

00:31:20.000 She said, I'm just chilling in Cedar Rapids!

00:31:23.000 Well, here's Elizabeth Warren doing that. 1.00

00:31:25.000 I'm gonna get me a beer.

00:31:29.000 My husband, Bruce, is now in here.

00:31:32.000 You want a beer?

00:31:34.000 No, I'll pass on the beer for now.

00:31:35.000 You sure?

00:31:35.000 Okay, stay a little longer.

00:31:36.000 Yes.

00:31:37.000 Who else have we got?

00:31:38.000 Kenny?

00:31:38.000 Is that right?

00:31:40.000 And I'm crazy.

00:31:41.000 I love you.

00:31:42.000 I love you too.

00:31:43.000 Thank you for being here.

00:31:44.000 Pleasure.

00:31:45.000 I'm glad you're here.

00:31:45.000 Enjoy your beer.

00:31:46.000 Who else have we got?

00:31:48.000 Kenny?

00:31:48.000 Is that right?

00:31:49.000 Kenny and the boys?

00:31:50.000 So there's grandma swigging off the top right there. 1.00

00:31:59.000 Yeah, that's gonna go over great with the kids.

00:32:01.000 The kids are like, oh man, she's awesome because she drinks beer!

00:32:05.000 She's the best!

00:32:06.000 Wow!

00:32:07.000 Look at Grandma over there taking out her teeth and then swigging on the beer. 1.00

00:32:10.000 Yeah, this is gonna go great for the Democrats.

00:32:13.000 We'll get to more of the Democrats being unable to play the character card against President Trump in just a second.

00:32:18.000 Again, part of character is also a feeling of authenticity.

00:32:20.000 Nothing is less authentic than that video.

00:32:22.000 I mean, that video is just... 0.99

00:32:25.000 Airsats garbage. 0.76

00:32:26.000 It's so fantastic in pretty much every way. 0.97

00:32:29.000 I haven't seen a candidate that inauthentic since Hillary Clinton, since they did this last time. 0.99

00:32:33.000 We'll get to all that in just a second.

00:32:34.000 First, I want to talk to you about your impending doom.

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00:37:01.000 So, Elizabeth Warren, gonna have a tough time running against President Trump. 1.00

00:37:05.000 And meanwhile, the Democrats are busy clubbing each other with bricks over the 2020 nomination.

00:37:09.000 Every Democrat on planet Earth wants to run.

00:37:12.000 Governor Jay Inslee of Washington State.

00:37:14.000 Who?

00:37:15.000 Yeah, I know.

00:37:15.000 He wants to run.

00:37:17.000 Eric Swalwell.

00:37:18.000 Who?

00:37:18.000 Yeah, he wants to run.

00:37:19.000 Eric Garcetti, the horrible, horrible mayor of Los Angeles, wants to run.

00:37:23.000 Like, name a Democrat, and that person probably wants to run for president.

00:37:27.000 The top three candidates right now on the Democratic side are pretty obviously Joe Biden, Bernie Sanders, and Beto O'Rourke.

00:37:32.000 I think that O'Rourke wins the nomination, if I had to predict it right now.

00:37:35.000 He's going with the momentum.

00:37:36.000 He's the only one of these guys who's charming.

00:37:38.000 He's got the press behind him.

00:37:39.000 I mentioned before the break that I think that Beto O'Rourke is the only candidate who has the possibility of sort of unifying the various parts of the Democratic Party.

00:37:49.000 But the problem for the Democrats is that while they are running on character issues against President Trump, politics sometimes betrays character.

00:37:56.000 And when the Democrats go so radical on politics that they seem wildly out of kilter and off base.

00:38:03.000 When they seem like they're not in touch with the American people, people take that as a character critique too.

00:38:08.000 And so it doesn't help them when their top politicians are saying things about climate change, like Bernie Sanders, the socialist loon bag from Vermont.

00:38:16.000 He tweeted out the other day, we must look at climate change as it was devastating military attack against the United States and the entire planet.

00:38:25.000 We must respond accordingly.

00:38:28.000 Well, I mean, if Bernie Sanders has one, I guess that means that we would surrender.

00:38:30.000 If there were a devastating military attack against the United States, I guess Bernie Sanders' take would be that we should surrender to global warming.

00:38:37.000 But in any case, if the Democratic pitch is, President Trump is immoral, we have to treat it being hotter outside the same way that we would treat a military attack by nuking the power plants.

00:38:49.000 Like, by shooting the sun?

00:38:51.000 Not sure what he's recommending there.

00:38:52.000 That's going to be a bit of a hard pitch.

00:38:53.000 He's not the only one saying this.

00:38:55.000 This is the New Democratic pitch.

00:38:56.000 Their moral case, their political moral case, is that President Trump is not just a man of little character, which, again, I think is a case that can be made.

00:39:05.000 The case that they are going to try and make is that President Trump is immoral in his politics.

00:39:10.000 And the way they've been making that case has been really awkward because they've been making the case that he's immoral because he wants a wall, which is patently not immoral.

00:39:16.000 In fact, it's a good idea to have some sort of border barrier to prevent people from illegally immigrating into the United States.

00:39:22.000 And now they're trying to make the case that President Trump is almost a Hitlerian character because he doesn't care enough about climate change, an issue about which most Americans don't care.

00:39:29.000 Jerry Brown, our senile governor of California, who's been governor since approximately 1833, Legitimately, he's now 1,211 years old.

00:39:40.000 It's really amazing.

00:39:41.000 So Jerry Brown is doddering around here in my home state, and he says that climate change is as devastating as the Nazis to humanity, which comes as a shock to my people.

00:39:54.000 No, not smuch.

00:39:56.000 It's been hot outside, but It was a lot hotter in certain situations for Jews in the past.

00:40:03.000 Here's Jerry Brown from California making the claim that climate change is just like Hitler and the Nazis!

00:40:11.000 I would point to the fact that it took Roosevelt many, many years to get America willing to go into World War II and fight the Nazis.

00:40:20.000 Well, we have an enemy, though different, but perhaps very much devastating in a similar way, and we've got to fight climate change, and the President's got to lead on that.

00:40:31.000 Okay, so it's just like Roosevelt mobilizing America for World War II.

00:40:34.000 It's just like the President mobilizing America to fight global warming.

00:40:37.000 If this is the moral case the Democrats are going to make, they're going to have a tough time.

00:40:41.000 Here's the thing.

00:40:42.000 In the late 90s, Americans basically came to the conclusion that you could divorce character and politics.

00:40:46.000 That President Clinton's character and his politics were completely separable.

00:40:49.000 That you could get good policy out of a guy who's a bad person.

00:40:52.000 And most Americans basically learned to agree with that because then we got a good character in the president, George W. Bush, who most Democrats decided was evil on policy.

00:41:00.000 So you had a, what Democrats decided, a bad character with good politics, Bill Clinton, and then a good character with bad politics, George W. Bush, and then the view of Democrats, a good character with good politics in Barack Obama, and then a bad character with bad politics in President Trump, right?

00:41:13.000 That's the view of Democrats on the various presidents that we've had over the past 20 years.

00:41:17.000 What that means is that character and politics are separable.

00:41:20.000 Well, if character and politics are separable, then Donald Trump can be a bad character and also be a pretty good president.

00:41:25.000 But according to Democrats, they have to make the case that he's also a bad character on politics, and if the most solid case they have is that he is not intersectional enough, or that he doesn't pay enough attention to climate change, or that he is insufficiently kind to illegal immigrants, that's gonna be a bit of a tough case.

00:41:43.000 Okay, meanwhile, I have already dubbed what this year is going to be.

00:41:47.000 So I think that the year 2019 is going to be the year of the woke scold.

00:41:52.000 Okay?

00:41:52.000 Not woke's gold.

00:41:53.000 Woke.

00:41:54.000 Scold.

00:41:55.000 So, We now live in an era in which the left insists, and this is where the radicalism of the left really comes to the fore in cultural and political terms, that we rewrite biology, language, religion, Politics, art, all these things must be rewritten so that we all stay woke.

00:42:13.000 And if you refuse to abide by these new moral strictures of the left, then this makes you immoral.

00:42:18.000 This is why so many people have reacted to President Trump's character failings and said, okay, whatever, at least he's not trying to tell me what to say or what to do.

00:42:25.000 You guys are trying to tell me what to say and what to do.

00:42:28.000 You're the new Puritans, except the Puritans actually were trying to promulgate some decent social policy once in a while. 0.80

00:42:34.000 The latest indicator that the left has gone too far in the woke scolding has been Louis C.K.

00:42:39.000 So, Louis C.K., before his downfall, was probably my favorite working comedian.

00:42:45.000 And that is saying that, despite the fact that Louis C.K.

00:42:48.000 is a wild leftist who hated Sarah Palin, is vulgar, is vile as a human being, he's really, really funny.

00:42:54.000 If you ever want to watch a great comedy set, go watch Louis C.K.

00:42:57.000 talk.

00:42:58.000 About what it is like to raise children who ask too many questions.

00:43:01.000 It's really, really good.

00:43:03.000 Louis C.K.

00:43:03.000 is a very talented comedian.

00:43:05.000 Well, if you recall, last year, Louis C.K.

00:43:07.000 was outed in the middle of the Me Too movement for having basically brought back female comedians to his green room and then having pushed them to watch him perform sexual acts upon himself, right?

00:43:20.000 And he went into self-imposed exile and lost tens of millions of dollars and all of the rest.

00:43:25.000 Well, now, he's coming back.

00:43:26.000 Well, the woke scolds don't want him to come back. 1.00

00:43:28.000 They say that he has sinned, he can never return to public life.

00:43:33.000 I mean, this is the amazing thing about the new woke-scolding SJWs, is that there's no such thing as repentance, there's no such thing as redemption.

00:43:40.000 If you sin against them, then you must be cast out into the nether regions forever.

00:43:44.000 Unless you are sufficiently wildly leftist, like Kathy Griffin, then maybe you get to come back.

00:43:48.000 In any case, Louis C.K., who is indeed a wild leftist, was never supposed to come back.

00:43:53.000 But now he is coming back.

00:43:54.000 And he did a comedy set the other night.

00:43:56.000 And in this comedy set, he made some jokes.

00:43:58.000 Now, Louis C.K.' 's brand of comedy has always been transgressive.

00:44:00.000 And we were told by the left, for years, that transgressive comedy was a social good.

00:44:04.000 Like George Carlin, social good.

00:44:06.000 Richard Pryor, social good.

00:44:07.000 Blue comedy, great.

00:44:09.000 All of these violated barriers, violated taboos, were good for society because they awakened us to our own excesses and hypocrisies.

00:44:16.000 Well, Louis C.K.

00:44:17.000 comes back, and he does a couple of jokes.

00:44:18.000 And he tells a joke about Auschwitz, and then he tells a joke about Parkland survivors, and then he tells a joke about gender fluidity.

00:44:24.000 Here's a little bit of his set.

00:44:26.000 And the left went nuts on him, because apparently, Louis C.K.' 's brand of humor is no longer acceptable in woke, scold world.

00:44:34.000 I loved New York for 20 years.

00:44:36.000 Now, I'd rather be in Auschwitz, honestly. 0.86

00:44:41.000 I mean Auschwitz now, not Auschwitz.

00:44:43.000 Back then, I mean Auschwitz. 0.60

00:44:46.000 And I was kind of excited to be in my 50s and see people in their 20s and be like, they're crazy! 0.99

00:44:52.000 These kids are nuts! 0.99

00:44:53.000 But they're not! 1.00

00:44:54.000 They're f***ing eee! 0.99

00:44:55.000 They're just boring! 1.00

00:44:57.000 You should address me!

00:44:58.000 They're like royalty!

00:44:59.000 They tell you what to call them.

00:45:01.000 You should address me as they-them. 0.99

00:45:06.000 Because I identify as gender neutral.

00:45:11.000 I don't know, they testify in front of Congress, these kids?

00:45:16.000 What are you doing?

00:45:17.000 You're young. 1.00

00:45:19.000 You should be crazy. 1.00

00:45:20.000 You should be unhinged. 1.00

00:45:22.000 Not in a suit saying, I'm here to tell you. 0.99

00:45:25.000 You're not interesting. 0.63

00:45:29.000 Okay, so everybody's going crazy.

00:45:41.000 How dare he make these jokes?

00:45:43.000 Well, because he's a comedian.

00:45:44.000 That's what he does.

00:45:45.000 Are the jokes taboo and transgressive?

00:45:48.000 Yes, but that's his whole shtick.

00:45:49.000 Go back and watch his comedy routine three, four years ago.

00:45:51.000 It's probably not six to ten years ago, in which he talks about But where he says, of course, but maybe it's a great comedy routine where he talks about all these things that we now consider deeply immoral, but maybe they're not.

00:46:04.000 Right.

00:46:04.000 He talks about how, of course, of course, we should make sure that kids who have peanut allergies are never exposed to peanuts.

00:46:09.000 But maybe if we just let them all be exposed to peanuts, then peanut allergies will be a thing of the past in one generation.

00:46:16.000 He's been doing this sort of transgressive comedy his entire career.

00:46:19.000 The left has decided he must be scolded out of existence.

00:46:22.000 Well, and then they say we have to redefine comedy, where Louis C.K.

00:46:25.000 is no longer funny.

00:46:25.000 But you know who's seriously funny?

00:46:27.000 Samantha Bee.

00:46:28.000 Samantha Bee and Hannah Gadsby.

00:46:30.000 The best kind of comedy is the comedy where you don't laugh, ever.

00:46:33.000 See, what we've been doing wrong all these years is defining comedy as funny things, when in reality, the only thing that's funny is that we ever considered comedy funny at one time.

00:46:40.000 The real comedy is you being lectured on why you aren't enough of a woke person to make those kind of jokes.

00:46:46.000 That's real comedy.

00:46:47.000 True comedy is that.

00:46:49.000 If this is the way that the left wants to promulgate culture, they are going to lose.

00:46:53.000 This is the real downfall of the left.

00:46:54.000 They can attack President Trump's character as much as they want, but if I have a choice between listening to the dopes who think that Louis C.K. 0.99

00:47:01.000 shouldn't be able to make a taboo joke, and Donald Trump tweeting like a moron from the White House, this is not a choice for me. 0.99

00:47:07.000 This is a very easy choice for me. 0.98

00:47:08.000 If that's my only choice, if it's just a black-white one-or-the-other choice, I don't think you should have to choose either, but if you want to choose one or the other, You think I'm gonna turn over the country to people who think that Louis C.K. 0.64

00:47:18.000 should be forced to tell knock-knock jokes?

00:47:20.000 You think I'm gonna turn over the country to a bunch of people who say that Louis C.K.' 's jokes now are deeply inappropriate when ten years ago the same people were cheering him on when he was like ripping into Sarah Palin and calling her a C-word?

00:47:31.000 Sorry, not gonna buy it.

00:47:33.000 You think I'm gonna turn over the country to a bunch of people who have to cancel their own marches because they're not intersectional enough?

00:47:38.000 In Northern California, there was a Women's March.

00:47:40.000 And the Women's March in Northern California had to be cancelled because it was too white. 1.00

00:47:44.000 I'm not kidding you. 0.88

00:47:45.000 They actually cancelled their own Women's March because they said there were not enough black people in it. 0.72

00:47:50.000 This is according to the... It's Annie Weinstein of the San Francisco Chronicle.

00:47:56.000 Northern California Women's March cancelled for being overwhelmingly white.

00:48:00.000 They said the decision came after organizers and supporters of the movement noticed participants over the years had been overwhelmingly white in lieu of the march, which was originally set to take place on January 19th.

00:48:09.000 Organizers will discuss a way to broaden cultural representation going forward, the committee wrote in a statement.

00:48:14.000 Instead of pushing forward with crucial voices absent, the organizing team will take more time for outreach.

00:48:19.000 You think I'm going to turn over the country to a bunch of people who think that you can't do a march if people aren't of the right color?

00:48:25.000 Like, that sounds great to me.

00:48:26.000 And then turn it over to the anti-semitic women's marchers who won't march unless they're more black people, and the people who think that Louis C.K. 0.95

00:48:33.000 is terrible, and that Kevin Hart is terrible. 0.80

00:48:36.000 They'll come for Bill Burr next.

00:48:37.000 You know they're coming for Bill Burr next, right?

00:48:39.000 They'll come after Joe Rogan.

00:48:41.000 Everybody who you find funny or interesting will eventually be destroyed by the woke skulls, and that's what this year is gonna be. 1.00

00:48:46.000 And President Trump should only be hoping and praying that if that actually happens, that it will propel him to victory again in 2020.

00:48:52.000 Because the reaction to cultural woke scolding is people in politics saying, you know what?

00:48:57.000 I'm not going to be scolded by these people.

00:48:58.000 I'm just going to vote for whomever is most likely to break things.

00:49:02.000 That's where that's where this is going.

00:49:04.000 The people woke.

00:49:05.000 It's really funny.

00:49:05.000 The people on the left think that Elizabeth Warren running for president is what's going to stop President Trump or Bernie Sanders or Beto O'Rourke.

00:49:12.000 What they don't understand is the thing most likely to propel Trump back to the presidency in 2020 is not a race against any of these people. 1.00

00:49:19.000 It's going to be all of the morons on Twitter and all the morons on Facebook and all the idiots in the media who think that Louis C.K. 1.00

00:49:24.000 has to be scolded into subservience and obedience. 1.00

00:49:28.000 For telling jokes about Auschwitz or something.

00:49:31.000 Like that's what's driving people up a wall.

00:49:33.000 Okay, time for some things I like and then some things that I hate.

00:49:35.000 So, things that I like this week.

00:49:37.000 So, there's a guy, a really, really talented artist named Mike Miller, and he was the lead artist on the Injustice series from DC Comics.

00:49:46.000 Well, now he's gone independent, and he has a new project called Lone Star, Heart of the Hero, and it's really worth checking out.

00:49:52.000 You can go check out his Indiegogo.

00:49:53.000 What's really cool is that when you do his kind of upper-level Indiegogo fundraising, you can actually send copies of this new comic, Lone Star, to the troops.

00:50:02.000 You can send a minimum of five copies to troops around the world via the USO.

00:50:05.000 Go check them out right now at Indiegogo.com.

00:50:07.000 Here's a little bit of the art.

00:50:08.000 It's just beautiful.

00:50:09.000 Go check out Lone Star from Mike Miller.

00:50:12.000 Lone Star Squadron. Lone Star. Heart of the Hero. Heart of the Hero.

00:50:27.000 So it's kind of like 80s style.

00:50:29.000 And it's also, the art of it is really cool.

00:50:31.000 You should go check out the art of it.

00:50:33.000 It's really beautiful.

00:50:34.000 It's fun to read.

00:50:35.000 So check it out, Lone Star, Heart of the Hero.

00:50:37.000 And if you want to give some copies to the troops, then you can go check that out at indiegogo.com slash projects Lone Star.

00:50:43.000 That's something worth checking out.

00:50:45.000 OK, other things that I like.

00:50:46.000 I would be remiss if I did not mention President Trump's Christmas.

00:50:49.000 So President Trump had himself a merry little Christmas.

00:50:53.000 And I will admit that I sent this clip to probably 15 people on Christmas Eve, wishing them Merry Christmas.

00:51:00.000 Why?

00:51:01.000 Because President Trump did phone calls with a bunch of kids who called into the White House, and one of these kids was a 7-year-old girl.

00:51:07.000 And President Trump asked the 7-year-old girl if she still believes in Santa Claus.

00:51:12.000 Here he was.

00:51:13.000 It was great.

00:51:14.000 Oh, that's very good.

00:51:18.000 You just have a good time.

00:51:18.000 Okay, so first of all, yes.

00:51:32.000 Yes.

00:51:33.000 So first of all, it's great.

00:51:35.000 Owning the Libs with certitude and confidence.

00:51:38.000 President Trump, owning the seven-year-old Libs who still believe in Santa Claus.

00:51:42.000 I mean, that is just spectacular stuff.

00:51:44.000 Do you still believe in Santa Claus? 1.00

00:51:46.000 Are you stupid? 1.00

00:51:50.000 Like, he's saying it to a seven-year-old. 1.00

00:51:51.000 It's kind of borderline, right?

00:51:52.000 Like, what happens if she's like, yeah, I still believe in Santa Claus.

00:51:55.000 Like, oh, okay.

00:51:57.000 I'll just back away slowly.

00:51:59.000 All right.

00:52:00.000 Where are your parents?

00:52:03.000 Pretty spectacular.

00:52:04.000 Now, I will admit that I have been in the President Trump side of that phone call before.

00:52:10.000 I've done that to people.

00:52:11.000 Like, I did that when I was, I think, four?

00:52:14.000 Like, see, in the Jewish community, we don't do the Christmas, which means we also don't do the Santa.

00:52:18.000 And there was a girl who lived across the street named Colleen, and I was friends with her, and she was a nice Christian girl, and she and I were the same age, we're probably both three or four years old, and she came over to my house, and she was talking about how Santa was gonna bring her lots of presents for Christmas, and I said to her, Santa's not real.

00:52:33.000 And her mom got super pissed and called my parents and wanted to know why I had said that. 0.99

00:52:39.000 And my parents were like, well, is Santa real?

00:52:41.000 And she's like, no, but you're not supposed to tell kids that.

00:52:43.000 Like, well, we didn't do it.

00:52:43.000 It was our kid.

00:52:44.000 In any case, I did that when I was four.

00:52:46.000 I wasn't 73 when I did that to a seven-year-old.

00:52:50.000 But you got to love it.

00:52:51.000 President Trump, I mean, that is some ownership of the libs right there.

00:52:55.000 That's why we elected him.

00:52:56.000 And no one really expected it, right?

00:52:58.000 Because he had ended the war on Christmas, the president.

00:53:01.000 And the president And fought against those assaulting Christmas.

00:53:04.000 No one expected him, like, no one expected him to simply swivel and then blitzkrieg Christmas that way.

00:53:12.000 Right?

00:53:12.000 Like, he had already ended the war and then suddenly he decided to launch his own offensive on Christmas?

00:53:15.000 It was really incredible.

00:53:16.000 So, well done, President Trump, for what was a studly display of owning with facts and knowledge.

00:53:23.000 Okay, time for some things that I hate.

00:53:30.000 So I'll acknowledge, I hate New Year's celebrations. 0.98

00:53:31.000 I think New Year's celebrations are, because I'm a killjoy, and also because they suck.

00:53:35.000 So, have you ever been to a New Year's party where you're like, yeah, that was totally worth it?

00:53:38.000 So my wife and I were in Times Square, probably now seven or eight years ago, and we had gone to a musical, and then we were gonna stay in Times Square, and we decided this is probably the most miserable place to be on New Year's Eve.

00:53:50.000 It's packed in, in this claustrophobic place where if five people turn around and start a stampede, 100,000 people die.

00:53:58.000 This is a bad idea.

00:54:00.000 You know, staying up to watch the ball drop on New Year's Eve is no fun.

00:54:04.000 And you can tell when people are sort of forced to have fun, right?

00:54:08.000 It's what we at the office like to call mandatory fun, like our Christmas party.

00:54:11.000 Mandatory fun, right, is sort of what everybody has on New Year's Eve.

00:54:15.000 It's like, well, it's New Year's Eve, you're supposed to have fun.

00:54:17.000 It's what we have to do.

00:54:18.000 And so the media members decide that they are going to force you to engage in the fun along with them. 1.00

00:54:23.000 And this means that we are going to watch news anchors act like morons. 0.91

00:54:28.000 One of the things I find hilarious about this is we have gotten non-stop virtue signaling from the media all day long, all day long, all year long, for years now, about how the United States is now a dangerous place for members of the news media. 0.98

00:54:42.000 Let me ask you a question.

00:54:43.000 When you watch those broadcasts on New Year's Eve of members of the news media getting drunk and talking about their sex lives, did this seem to you like a wildly dangerous place for members of the news media?

00:54:51.000 It didn't to me.

00:54:52.000 Why are we having on random celebrities who were last relevant in 1973?

00:54:56.000 To talk about the countdown to 2019.

00:54:58.000 No one knows, but here was NBC talking about steaming of the genitals on their New Year's Eve countdown show, because this is solid TV.

00:55:09.000 Mandatory fun, guys. 0.99

00:55:11.000 Chrissy Teigen talking about steaming her genitals. 0.99

00:55:14.000 A classic vaginal steaming. 1.00

00:55:18.000 Yeah, I like to steam my vag. 0.98

00:55:19.000 I'd rather not do that. 0.98

00:55:20.000 I don't like to do it, but listen, if PB tells me to do it, I'm kind of into it.

00:55:25.000 What does that mean?

00:55:26.000 You steamed your heart out.

00:55:28.000 Alright, don't skate.

00:55:29.000 It doesn't matter.

00:55:30.000 There's a lot to explain with it, but whatever.

00:55:32.000 You should be in prison.

00:55:35.000 Honestly, for more reasons than that.

00:55:36.000 Okay guys, it's less than 15 minutes!

00:55:39.000 I mean, I guess it's better than dry cleaning down there, but in any case... What?

00:55:44.000 Like, this is on the New Year's Eve... There are kids who actually watch this stuff, and yet that was the thing that was happening.

00:55:50.000 That wasn't the only thing that was happening on the networks.

00:55:52.000 CNN's Anderson Cooper decided to talk about his mom's sex life on air.

00:55:56.000 He talked about one time when his mom nailed Marlon Brando, which...

00:55:59.000 I mean, honestly, it's no shock.

00:56:00.000 Apparently, Richard Pryor also nailed Marlon Brando, which is more of a shocker.

00:56:04.000 Richard Pryor and Marlon Brando, like the villain from Superman 3, and Superman's dad getting it on in, like, 1979.

00:56:11.000 Things are weird.

00:56:12.000 In any case, here was Anderson Cooper talking about his mom's sex life on CNN.

00:56:16.000 Don't worry, these are respected members of the media.

00:56:18.000 Stop it.

00:56:19.000 They are journalism-ing.

00:56:20.000 These are journalists.

00:56:21.000 Take them seriously.

00:56:23.000 They must be taken seriously.

00:56:24.000 Here's Anderson Cooper, who I guess we're supposed to take seriously.

00:56:28.000 Working with him, he's just so inventive.

00:56:31.000 My mom hooked up with him.

00:56:33.000 She did?

00:56:33.000 With hot Marlon Brando, not like Apocalypse Now Marlon Brando.

00:56:37.000 She hooked up with like, I think it was on the waterfront Marlon Brando.

00:56:42.000 Wow!

00:56:42.000 She and Carol Mathau both watched the movie and both made a deal that they were going to meet up.

00:56:48.000 Did they really?

00:56:49.000 You're not kidding.

00:56:50.000 Carol got it first and then set it up for my mom.

00:56:54.000 Okay, well, that's always good stuff is when you're talking about your mom's sex life on national TV.

00:56:58.000 I can't imagine if that affected Anderson Cooper as a child or anything.

00:57:02.000 In any case, very, very weird.

00:57:03.000 And then CNN's Randy Kaye, another great reporter, is drinking champagne from a bong live on New Year's Eve.

00:57:09.000 These are journalists who are very much in danger.

00:57:10.000 Remember, President Trump has endangered their lives.

00:57:13.000 President Trump has single-handedly put their lives in danger.

00:57:16.000 They are so afraid that they are out at public bars drinking from champagne bongs on New Year's Eve, on the most populous night of the year.

00:57:23.000 I mean, look at the date.

00:57:24.000 This is true journalisming.

00:57:25.000 Here we go.

00:57:26.000 Really, just a little bit.

00:57:27.000 All right.

00:57:28.000 I dragged it.

00:57:29.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:57:29.000 All right.

00:57:31.000 You ready?

00:57:31.000 You got to hold it up, up straight.

00:57:32.000 It's a bad idea.

00:57:33.000 All right, this is not a good idea.

00:57:35.000 Not a good idea.

00:57:36.000 Oh, yeah!

00:57:40.000 That was an excellent idea, actually.

00:57:43.000 Okay, and it turns out that the worst move of the night came courtesy of CNN as well.

00:57:48.000 Jane Curtin, I guess, is some sort of commentator for CNN. 0.69

00:57:51.000 She came on CNN.

00:57:52.000 Don't know who she is or which crypt she crawled out of, but she says that she has a New Year's resolution to ensure the GOP dies.

00:58:00.000 Great.

00:58:00.000 Fantastic stuff, guys.

00:58:02.000 My New Year's resolution is to make sure that the Republican Party dies.

00:58:09.000 Wow, that's so funny.

00:58:10.000 That's, like, amazing.

00:58:11.000 Wow.

00:58:12.000 So she's a comedian sometimes, I guess.

00:58:14.000 She was referred to as the Queen of Deadpan, and was included in a 1986 list of the top primetime actors and actresses of all time.

00:58:21.000 Awesome.

00:58:22.000 Thank you, Wikipedia.

00:58:23.000 So, yeah, the media doing Yeoman's work each and every day to remind us why they are in the positions that they are.

00:58:28.000 But we're supposed to take them seriously, but we're not supposed to take President Trump seriously, because they're serious people.

00:58:33.000 And Trump is not a serious person.

00:58:34.000 Okay, well we'll be back here tomorrow.

00:58:36.000 Now let me remind you, it is a brand new year.

00:58:38.000 It's going to be a long year.

00:58:39.000 It's going to be a hard slog.

00:58:40.000 We're going to be here with you every step of the way.

00:58:42.000 We're going to be enjoying, having fun, breaking it all down for you.

00:58:45.000 And we can't wait to do it, because it's going to be a blast.

00:58:48.000 See you tomorrow.

00:58:48.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - January 02, 2019

The Year Of The Wokescold | Ep. 686

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