The Ben Shapiro Show - August 30, 2023


There’s No Such Thing As Free Medicine

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Joe Biden wants to negotiate drug prices with the government, and he's got a list of 10 drugs that could be subject to Medicare price negotiations. What's the catch? They're not going to cost less than $50,000 a year, and they're all made by Big Pharma. Is this a good deal or a bad deal? Alex Blumberg explains what's going to happen if the government does negotiate with Big Pharma about drug prices, and why it would be a bad idea. Plus, a look at the impact of the Biden administration's new drug pricing plan, and how it could affect the price of prescription drugs in the United States and around the world. And, of course, there's a bonus segment at the end of the episode about how the government is going to pay for all of this with a $2,000 cap on how much members of the Medicare program can spend on prescription drugs starting in 2025. Thanks to our sponsor, Unilever, for sponsoring this special bonus episode. Logo by Courtney DeKorte. Theme by Mavus Whitehead. Music by PSOVOD and tyops. We'd like to learn more about you, the listeners. Please take a few minutes to fill out this brief survey. Send us your thoughts and suggestions on topics you d like to hear us talk about in the comments section below. Thanks for listening, and we'll get back to you next week with a new episode on the next episode of HAPPY BONUS EPISODE! Subscribe to our newschedules! Subscribe, rate, review, and subscribe to our newest podcast, and leave us a review of your thoughts on the latest episode of The HAPPINESS! on Apple Podcasts! and other podcasting services! Thank you for listening to our latest episode and share it with your fellow podcast listeners! in iTunes! Timestamps: 5 stars! 6 stars 7 stars 8 stars 9 stars 10 stars 11 stars 13 stars 12 stars 15 stars 16 stars 17 stars 18 stars 19 stars 21 stars 17 thumbs up 18 thumbs up? 19 thumbs up! 19 20 stars 22 stars 25 stars 27 stars 26 stars 23 stars 24 stars 20 21 27 24 26 23

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00:00:00.000 Well, it's an old saw in politics.
00:00:01.000 There is no such thing as a free lunch.
00:00:04.000 Well, apparently there are a lot of people out there who believe there is such a thing as free medicine.
00:00:08.000 And the way that they are basically making the case is that Big Pharma in the United States makes a lot of money.
00:00:13.000 Now, there are a lot of problems with Big Pharma, for sure.
00:00:16.000 There are drugs that are really not great for people that are marketed as though they are amazing for people.
00:00:21.000 The most obvious example being Oxycontin.
00:00:23.000 But it is also true that every single drug you take was developed by Big Pharma.
00:00:27.000 Every single medicine you take was developed by Big Pharma.
00:00:30.000 So if Big Pharma is responsible for OxyContin, they're also responsible for Advil.
00:00:33.000 If Big Pharma is responsible for the mRNA vaccine that you didn't want to take, Big Pharma is also responsible for all of the chemotherapy medications that your mother is taking.
00:00:42.000 So Big Pharma is responsible for all of those things.
00:00:45.000 And the medical advances in the United States have led to a tremendous Expansion of life expectancy in the United States, the five-year cancer survival rate in the United States is much higher than anywhere else on earth.
00:00:57.000 The reason being, we have better medicines than anywhere else on earth.
00:01:00.000 It also happens to be that we develop a huge number of medical patents right here in the United States.
00:01:05.000 Well, the reason for that is because the United States, when it comes to drug pricing, is maybe the last country on earth that actively allows patients and doctors to buy drugs at the price that pharma is selling the drugs at, as opposed to using the government To cram down particular pricing.
00:01:20.000 Now, this has been a bugaboo for a lot of politicians, because they look at Canada, or they look at Germany, or they look at Europe, or any place else on earth, and they say, well, they're buying those American drugs for far less than we are paying for those American drugs.
00:01:32.000 This is what led, yesterday, the Biden administration to, through the Inflation Reduction Act, that had nothing to do with inflation reduction at all, it turns out that pretty much the entire thing was about giving away money for green boondoggles, and also apparently screwing up the drug markets, Yesterday, the U.S.
00:01:49.000 government named 10 drugs that will be subject to the first-ever price negotiations by Medicare, taking aim at some of the most widely used and costliest medicines in the country.
00:01:56.000 According to the Wall Street Journal, at stake is arguably the government's strongest effort to date to tackle high drug costs if drug makers can't persuade courts to scuttle the negotiating powers that Medicare was granted last year.
00:02:06.000 On the list of targeted medicines announced by the Biden administration Tuesday are treatments for cancer, diabetes, and heart disease that can cost tens of thousands of dollars a year or more, including the blood thinner Eliquis and diabetes treatment Jardians.
00:02:17.000 Medicare spent $50.5 billion on those drugs last year, according to JPMorgan Chase.
00:02:23.000 The 10 drugs include many drugs fighting diabetes.
00:02:26.000 There's an arthritis drug from Amgen called Enbrel, it's on the list.
00:02:29.000 There's a psoriasis drug from Johnson & Johnson.
00:02:33.000 Stacey Duzina, a health policy professor at Vanderbilt University School of Medicine,
00:02:37.000 said this is a major step toward reducing drug spending.
00:02:40.000 And of course, Joe Biden is very excited about all of this. He says we pay way more for prescription
00:02:45.000 drugs than any other economy on the world, in the world. And here he was yesterday
00:02:50.000 explaining that if it's sold in Chicago, you are paying more money than if you are buying
00:02:53.000 it in Toronto or Paris.
00:02:54.000 A drug company that makes a drug here in America, if it's sold in Chicago, you can buy the same
00:03:02.000 drug in Toronto or Paris cheaper than you can buy it in Toronto.
00:03:06.000 I mean, excuse me, in Chicago.
00:03:09.000 Okay, well, that's true.
00:03:10.000 But the reason that that's true is because basically the United States has allowed a bunch of other countries to free ride off the prices that Americans are paying.
00:03:19.000 So, what exactly would the downstream effects of this be?
00:03:22.000 Well, according to the Wall Street Journal, the positive downstream effects would be lower prices.
00:03:25.000 Those would take effect in 2026.
00:03:27.000 Medicare would save an estimated $25 billion a year by 2031.
00:03:30.000 The savings would mostly go to Medicare because it pays the bulk of the cost of the drugs.
00:03:34.000 The reductions wouldn't directly affect the price patients pay at the pharmacy counter.
00:03:40.000 But the price cuts would have an indirect impact on people's spending.
00:03:42.000 Medicare plans to use the savings to put a $2,000 annual cap on how much members have to pay out of pocket for drugs starting in 2025.
00:03:48.000 So it sounds like an unalloyed good, right?
00:03:50.000 Everything is great.
00:03:51.000 It's awesome.
00:03:52.000 There's only one problem, which is that medical innovation in the United States is about to crater.
00:03:56.000 And when the government can cram down pricing in any particular area and remove the profit margin from the actual pricing mechanism, that means people are not going to invest the kinds of money that are necessary in order to create the drugs in the first place.
00:04:09.000 In the same way that rent control decreases people building and constructing, because why would you build a new apartment knowing there's no profit in it?
00:04:16.000 The investment in the biotech sphere is going to utterly dry up if the government via Medicare continues to cram down policies like this one.
00:04:24.000 By the way, the policy itself is absolutely wild.
00:04:27.000 I mean, the way that they are cramming this thing down is that they go to the companies, that Medicare goes to the companies that produce the drugs, and then they tell them that they are now going to be subjected to this sort of arbitrary choice where they pick your drug out of the lineup and they say, from now on, we are going to cram down a price on you.
00:04:50.000 The CMS can only select drugs that have been on the market for a certain period of time.
00:04:54.000 For instance, a small molecule drug, a product in pill form like aspirin, must have been on the market for 9 years or more to be negotiation eligible.
00:04:59.000 A biologic drug, a vaccine or a gene therapy, must have been marketed for 13 years or more for eligibility.
00:05:06.000 There are a couple of exemptions that drug makers can use.
00:05:09.000 They can say that they're small biotechs and they manufacture like one drug or biologic drugs that have a high likelihood of getting biosimilar competition within a couple of years on the list.
00:05:16.000 There's no reason to cram down the price.
00:05:17.000 There's going to be somebody who develops a generic, but this is the start of the negotiation process.
00:05:22.000 Basically, they are notified by Medicare that they are now subject to a price cram down and they have to decide then whether to enter into talks.
00:05:30.000 If they choose not to, they would then face an excise tax scaling up to 95%.
00:05:36.000 95% so they they would still be able to sell their drug to medicare but medicare would then claw back via the power of the federal government 95% 95% of any income from that drug or they would have to leave medicare or medicaid altogether which by the way doesn't help patients on medicare or medicaid a whole hell of a lot Assuming drug companies then enter into the talks, the final negotiated rate on the first set of drugs applies to the pharmacy counter starting January 1st, 2026.
00:06:02.000 So, what is the downstream effect of all of this?
00:06:05.000 Well, here is the thing that people are not seeing.
00:06:07.000 To develop a drug, yes, you're looking at the drug, you see it come across the counter, you're like, whoa, look at the sticker shock on that thing.
00:06:13.000 That is, and it doesn't cost nearly that much to produce the drug.
00:06:16.000 The amount of money that is put in R&D on drugs is insane.
00:06:20.000 I mean, totally crazy.
00:06:22.000 I know this because I personally invest in biotech companies.
00:06:25.000 The amount of money that is sunk into biotech to develop like a working drug is totally crazy.
00:06:32.000 And I promise you, if you remove the profit margin from these companies, there will just be less investment in this sphere.
00:06:38.000 Drugs that would have been produced just will not be produced.
00:06:40.000 I'll get to more on this in just one second.
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00:07:45.000 Okay, so in order to understand why the government can't just simply name prices for drugs and then magically the price comes down, you have to see the downstream effect.
00:07:54.000 The prices on those drugs will indeed come down.
00:07:57.000 It's the drugs that will never be developed that are the unintended consequences.
00:08:00.000 So, in 2019 alone, the pharmaceutical industry spent $83 billion in 2019.
00:08:06.000 $83 billion on R&D, research and development.
00:08:08.000 According to one 2020 study, which covered 632 new therapeutic drugs and biologic agents approved by the FDA, the estimated median capitalized research and development cost per product was $985 million, counting expenditures on failed trials.
00:08:22.000 But you should count because the vast majority of drugs that are originally developed never make it to market.
00:08:28.000 Somewhere between 85 and 90% of all drugs that enter phase one testing never make it through FDA approval process.
00:08:34.000 But they cost a lot of money.
00:08:36.000 So that means that for every drug that actually hits the market, and it's not that many drugs every year.
00:08:41.000 You're talking maybe like a dozen, couple dozen drugs hitting the market every year.
00:08:44.000 It's costing like almost a billion, by some estimates, somewhere between 1.3 and 2.4 billion dollars a year.
00:08:50.000 To develop each one of the, well, $1.3 and $2.4 billion to develop each one of those drugs.
00:08:57.000 That's how much money these companies have to spend up front to even develop a working drug. 0.54
00:09:02.000 So how do they make that money back?
00:09:03.000 What makes it profitable?
00:09:04.000 Why would they spend $1.3, $2.4 billion on creating a drug?
00:09:08.000 Or risk hundreds of millions of dollars on drugs that aren't ever going to make it out of phase three?
00:09:14.000 Well, the reason is because on the other end, there has to be some sort of way to earn back that money.
00:09:19.000 Now, Americans do bear the brunt of the cost because other countries are free-riding.
00:09:23.000 We also captured the industry upside.
00:09:26.000 It used to be, in the 1970s, that a huge percentage of drugs were actually developed in Europe.
00:09:30.000 Today, a huge percentage of drugs are developed in the United States.
00:09:33.000 According to one 2010 study, the United States accounted for 42% of prescription drug spending and 40% of total GDP among innovator countries, and was responsible for 43.7% of what are called NMEs, new molecular entities.
00:09:47.000 According to the BLS, the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the pharmaceutical and medicine manufacturing industry is responsible for about 332,000 jobs in the United States.
00:09:54.000 In other words, it's a big business.
00:09:56.000 And it's a big business because there's actual freedom of pricing in the United States.
00:09:59.000 So what exactly would happen if Medicare gets away with cramming down this pricing structure?
00:10:05.000 According to National Review's Jeff Zimera, drug development would drop off.
00:10:08.000 And that's not according to him, it's according to the CBO.
00:10:10.000 The Congressional Budget Office has predicted the scheme provided for under the Inflation Reduction Act would lead to a manufactured revenue loss of 15%.
00:10:18.000 Such a cut in CBO's predicted 45 new drugs per year would suggest around 7 fewer drugs per year.
00:10:24.000 That means 121 drugs lost over an 18-year time horizon, as one report estimated.
00:10:29.000 So which drugs would be most likely to disappear?
00:10:31.000 The drugs most likely to disappear would actually be the ones that are for rare conditions, right?
00:10:34.000 The ones that have less of a profit margin to begin with.
00:10:37.000 Those drugs would just go away.
00:10:38.000 So you can forget about drugs being developed for the rare condition that your mother just got diagnosed with.
00:10:42.000 Those are just not going to be in the market anymore because who the hell is going to develop them if there's no money on the other end?
00:10:49.000 There's another solution to this, by the way.
00:10:51.000 That solution would be to aggressively make other countries pay their fair share when it comes to American medication.
00:10:56.000 We could use every lever at our disposal in order to do that.
00:10:59.000 This is where a trade war would actually be somewhat useful.
00:11:02.000 Saying to Canada, or saying to the National Health Service, you guys are going to pay American companies what we here in the United States pay.
00:11:10.000 And we're going to use the levers at our disposal in order to make that happen?
00:11:13.000 That would be well worthwhile.
00:11:15.000 Because right now, basically, America is subsidizing the rest of the world when it comes to drug creation.
00:11:19.000 But the solution to that isn't for American government to then cram down a pricing mechanism on the big pharma companies and the drug companies and the medicine companies.
00:11:27.000 When you do that, you just get rid of all the innovation.
00:11:31.000 Imagine, for a second, if the United States and any other industry decided that we were just going to ratchet down cost, supposedly government cost, on any other area of American life.
00:11:41.000 Take the tech sector, or take the financial sector.
00:11:43.000 We're just going to ratchet up taxation.
00:11:45.000 And we're going to do so in order to lower, supposedly, the cost to the American taxpayer.
00:11:49.000 We're just going to tax that particular sector.
00:11:51.000 What do you think happens?
00:11:52.000 People flee.
00:11:53.000 The innovation goes away.
00:11:55.000 This is simple supply and demand kind of stuff.
00:11:57.000 When you get rid of the profit margin in a particular product line, there is less innovation.
00:12:01.000 There's less investment in that area.
00:12:02.000 It's very simple.
00:12:03.000 But Joe Biden doesn't care about that.
00:12:04.000 He cares about the top-line look that he's bringing down cost.
00:12:09.000 The lost innovation is of no consequence to him whatsoever.
00:12:12.000 Because when it comes to Bidenomics, second-order thinking is completely irrelevant.
00:12:16.000 It's all first-order thinking.
00:12:17.000 I don't like the price of that drug.
00:12:18.000 Therefore, I will use government to cram down a new price on that drug.
00:12:22.000 Sure, it means that a bunch of drugs aren't going to participate in Medicare.
00:12:25.000 You're still gonna have to get them over the counter.
00:12:26.000 Sure, it means that you're going to lose the innovation by these companies or have them base themselves somewhere else.
00:12:33.000 But at least you'll feel good about having supposedly brought down the cost.
00:12:36.000 By the way, like Democrats care about the cost of Medicare.
00:12:39.000 Since when have Democrats cared about the cost of Medicare?
00:12:41.000 They won't even restructure Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, which represent 66% of the American mandatory budget every year.
00:12:47.000 Anytime anybody mentions, maybe we should restructure those programs in order to lower the costs, they're like, no, no, no, we can't touch it.
00:12:54.000 Apparently the only way to touch it is to confiscate money and innovation from the private sector.
00:12:58.000 Genius ideas.
00:13:00.000 We'll get to another genius idea that's going under the radar and is being crammed down by the Biden administration via the National Labor Relations Board in just one second.
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00:14:11.000 Okay, so the other big move the Biden administration has made over the course of the last week is going completely unnoticed, and it's going to utterly wreck a huge number of industries.
00:14:22.000 What exactly is this big move?
00:14:24.000 Well, the National Labor Relations Board.
00:14:27.000 And I'm going to say it up front because they've actually come after me for making jokes about them.
00:14:30.000 I'm not kidding.
00:14:31.000 They literally sent us a letter because I once made a joke about my employees and unions.
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00:14:39.000 Also, the National Labor Relations Board is a joke and a garbage institution that shouldn't be a part of American government.
00:14:44.000 It is, effectively speaking, a tool of organized labor against the American taxpayer and the worker and businesses. 0.95
00:14:50.000 That is what it is.
00:14:51.000 The NLRB is a blot on American life.
00:14:54.000 We abide by all available laws and regulations here at Daily Wire.
00:14:56.000 Okay, so, with all of that said, I'm gonna keep saying it over and over because the fascistic NLRB, literally, if you make a joke, they literally will launch an investigation into you, requiring you to obtain a lawyer to explain what a joke is.
00:15:09.000 This is a thing that didn't just happen to me, it also happened to Ben Dominich over at The Federalist, it's happened to a bunch of people.
00:15:13.000 So, these dolts over at the NLRB, or union-based socialists, they have decided, they've now issued a decision in a case called CEMEX Construction Materials Pacific.
00:15:26.000 They announced a new framework for determining when employers are required to bargain with unions without a representation election.
00:15:32.000 So normally, you'd have to have a representation election, right?
00:15:35.000 You have your entire base of your employees vote on whether to form a union or not.
00:15:39.000 Now, I'm not even in favor of that.
00:15:41.000 I think the National Labor Relations Act is ridiculous on its face.
00:15:44.000 If employees wish to unionize, then by all means, go ahead and unionize.
00:15:49.000 But that means that you have to get all the employees to be part of the union, not by voting a majority, but by getting them to actually join the union.
00:15:55.000 If I don't wish to join the union, I wish to independently negotiate my salary with the employer, that should be my prerogative in a free country.
00:16:01.000 I shouldn't be forced to join a union just because a majority of my employees, of my fellow employees, wish to join a union.
00:16:08.000 What if I'm better at my job than they are?
00:16:11.000 What if I'm willing to work for less because I need the money?
00:16:13.000 There are a bunch of reasons why you might not want to join a union, which is presumably why union membership in the United States has dropped to a small fraction of what it once was.
00:16:21.000 Union membership in the private sector in the United States is now, what, 7%?
00:16:23.000 Something like that?
00:16:24.000 There's a reason for that.
00:16:25.000 It's because unions weren't doing their jobs. 0.97
00:16:27.000 They were just bankrupting the companies that they were siphoning money away from.
00:16:30.000 In any case, many of these unions They would have a representation election.
00:16:38.000 The National Labor Relations Act posited that if a majority of members of your employee base vote to form a union, you then, by law, must negotiate with the union. 0.58
00:16:49.000 Again, as I say, that's ridiculous.
00:16:51.000 You should be able to say, I don't wish to negotiate with the union, and I'm sorry if I lose those employees, but there are other employees out there.
00:16:56.000 But that's not what the National Labor Relations Act says.
00:16:58.000 We abide by all laws and regulations here at The Daily Wear.
00:17:02.000 Here's what they're doing now.
00:17:04.000 At least, they used to have to hold an election.
00:17:07.000 They used to have to actually have an election.
00:17:08.000 Now, the National Labor Relations Board is saying the opposite.
00:17:12.000 They say, the new framework will both effectuate employees' right to bargain through representatives of their own choosing and improve the fairness and integrity of board-conducted elections.
00:17:20.000 Under the new framework, When a union requests recognition on the basis that a majority of employees in an appropriate bargaining unit have designated the union as the representative, an employer must either recognize and bargain with the union or promptly file a petition seeking election.
00:17:34.000 So, let's be clear.
00:17:35.000 They're now saying there's no election.
00:17:37.000 There's no election to determine whether a union was formed at the local Amazon plant.
00:17:40.000 It was just some union organizer went through and had everybody sign a petition saying, I wish to join a union.
00:17:46.000 Now, one of the problems with that is you can bring an awful lot of pressure to bear.
00:17:50.000 Unions for years have brought enormous amounts of pressure to bear on individual employees.
00:17:54.000 You know what all your buddies will think if you don't sign this here petition?
00:17:58.000 You wanna screw Bob over there? 1.00
00:17:59.000 Bob knows where you live.
00:18:01.000 Which is why there used to be in this country, you know, when we go to vote, there's the secret ballot.
00:18:08.000 With unions, they're now moving against that.
00:18:10.000 They're now basically saying, no more secret ballot.
00:18:11.000 You're going to be able to go around to your other employees and you're going to have them sign a petition.
00:18:15.000 And now the company has two choices.
00:18:16.000 One, they can either accept the union as fully formed and negotiate with it, or they can petition seeking an election.
00:18:23.000 However, If an employer who seeks an election commits any unfair labor practice that would require setting aside the election, the petition will be dismissed, and rather than rerunning the election, the board will order the employer to recognize and bargain with the union.
00:18:35.000 So, what does this mean?
00:18:37.000 This means, let's say that you find out, for example, that somebody has actually been pressuring employees inside your company to sign a petition, and they didn't want to, and so you fired them for interference with your labor force.
00:18:48.000 The NLRB could come in the back door and they could say, ah, you weren't allowed to fire that person. 0.97
00:18:51.000 And now you are automatically forced to bargain with the union.
00:18:54.000 Automatically forced to bargain with the union.
00:18:57.000 It's a major change.
00:18:59.000 This is why the American prospect is extremely excited.
00:19:04.000 They say, So a lot of the employers would basically say, let's hold an election, but let's wait a month so we can actually, you know, poll people and give them some material as to the cost of implementing a union here.
00:19:11.000 Now the board's like, no, gotta hold the election right away.
00:19:14.000 So let's just be clear.
00:19:14.000 curtailing employees to ability to delay them often indefinitely.
00:19:17.000 So a lot of the employers would basically say let's hold an election but
00:19:21.000 let's wait a month so we can actually you know poll people and give them some
00:19:24.000 material as to the cost of implementing a union here. Now the board's like no,
00:19:28.000 gotta hold the election right away. So let's just be clear, no election necessary in the
00:19:31.000 first place because you can get people to sign a petition. Two, if they do request
00:19:34.000 an election, the election has to be held like now.
00:19:37.000 And three, you are not allowed to take any action the NLRB deems irresponsible or bad.
00:19:43.000 And if so, they'll just automatically declare the union.
00:19:47.000 As the American Prospect, a far-left magazine says, taken together, this one-two punch effectively makes union organizing possible again after decades in which unpunished employer illegality was the most decisive factor in reducing the nation's rate of private sector unionization from roughly 35% to a bare 6%.
00:20:01.000 All of this is rude, by the way, in a perverse and stupid version of economic history in which it was unionization in the American workforce that led to American prosperity.
00:20:09.000 That is unbased in American economic history. 0.98
00:20:12.000 It just isn't.
00:20:13.000 I'll get to that in just one second.
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00:21:20.000 Okay, so all of this is rooted In a version of economic history in which it was American unions that built America.
00:21:27.000 That is not true.
00:21:28.000 That is not true.
00:21:29.000 There are certainly circumstances in which unions are necessary and good.
00:21:32.000 Coal miners unions would be an excellent example. 1.00
00:21:34.000 Or let's say you have a company town and the company town is effectively an oligarchy.
00:21:40.000 And you have to have the ability to unionize in order to change conditions of the company town.
00:21:45.000 However, unionization in America's car industry absolutely destroyed the American car industry.
00:21:50.000 In the 1950s, because America was the only place capable of actually making cars, we were the only industrialized nation on earth that hadn't been wiped out by World War II.
00:21:58.000 We had big profit margins, and the unions organized, and they signed themselves extraordinarily rich contracts.
00:22:03.000 And those extraordinarily rich contracts ended up basically bankrupting all those car companies by the 70s.
00:22:09.000 This is very often what happens when unions are giving outsized ability to organize.
00:22:13.000 This is particularly true in the public sector, by the way.
00:22:15.000 You want to talk about the bloated public sector in the United States?
00:22:17.000 Private sector unions in some cases are at least understandable.
00:22:21.000 Public sector unions are a blot.
00:22:23.000 Public sector unions are the most corrupt bargain in American politics.
00:22:25.000 Essentially what happens is that you have a bunch of union organizers And they negotiate with legislators for some sort of big giveaway deal, including very often the ability for the state to actually take out of people's paycheck union dues and hand it over to the union.
00:22:39.000 The union then uses that money to get a bunch of Democrats elected, and then it negotiates with those people to sign more giveaways for themselves.
00:22:46.000 It's super duper corrupt, and it's one of the reasons the cost of government has been skyrocketing year on year for literally my entire lifetime and beyond.
00:22:55.000 If you think that the combination of this sort of top-down economic control, centralization of control of the American economy by the Biden administration is going to have long-term effects, you're wrong.
00:23:04.000 It's going to have wild effects when it comes to the drug industry.
00:23:07.000 It's going to have wild effects when it comes to business overall with regards to these new unionization rules.
00:23:13.000 And the Biden administration doesn't care.
00:23:15.000 They don't understand economics and they don't care about it.
00:23:18.000 And they're like small children when it comes to economics.
00:23:20.000 I don't like high prices.
00:23:22.000 Therefore, I will use the power of government to yell about high prices to bring them down.
00:23:26.000 Okay, but there are second-order effects of this sort of stuff.
00:23:28.000 There are unintended consequences, always. 0.97
00:23:31.000 These are the kind of idiotic thinkers, truly, who believe that in what they call the broken windows fallacy with regard to economics, that if you throw a rock through a window, you just help the economy because now somebody has to go buy a new pane of glass. 0.98
00:23:43.000 Neglecting the fact that when you break the window, that shop owner was going to use that money to invest maybe in another employee. 0.99
00:23:50.000 Maybe that shop owner was going to buy new equipment and now they have to waste their money on another pane of glass.
00:23:55.000 This bizarre notion in economics that the only thing you have to focus on is the thing right in front of you as opposed to all of the outsized effects beyond that thing.
00:24:05.000 It's the death of actual efficiency.
00:24:07.000 It's the death of actual innovation.
00:24:09.000 The Biden administration doesn't care because they're just looking for giveaways to their political allies. 0.85
00:24:12.000 Anyway.
00:24:13.000 Meanwhile, Joe Biden has to lock down those political allies because the entire American public knows that Joe Biden is unpleasant. 0.84
00:24:21.000 There's a growing impression that he is corrupt.
00:24:22.000 That growing impression should have been launched, you know, at the beginning of his political career because he's been corrupt for literally half a century at this point in American politics.
00:24:32.000 But the biggest thing that's sticking to him right now is that the man obviously is no longer with it.
00:24:36.000 Yesterday, Kareem Jean-Pierre tried to defend Joe Biden's virility, saying, well, he did go to Ukraine.
00:24:41.000 You mean he took a plane and then wandered around there?
00:24:43.000 Wow.
00:24:43.000 Shocking stuff there, Kareem.
00:24:46.000 But I'm talking about what Americans see when they turn on the TV, and they see, you know, Joe Biden's been in politics literally since before you were born, and like, he's aged.
00:24:57.000 Well, let's talk about that.
00:24:58.000 As we all do.
00:24:59.000 Let's talk about this.
00:24:59.000 And you all talked about this.
00:25:01.000 Back when we were marking the one-year anniversary, right, of the war in Ukraine, the unprovoked war by Russia, what did the President do?
00:25:11.000 He went to Kyiv, and he was there with the alarms blaring in the back, and people were so impressed that he was able to be there and look strong and represent the American people in Kyiv, in a war zone country.
00:25:30.000 I know that she has to do this for a living, but I gotta say, that is pretty weak sauce. 1.00
00:25:36.000 Even Morning Joe is like, yeah, we're all kind of concerned about his age.
00:25:39.000 89% of Republicans say Biden is too old.
00:25:43.000 69% of Democrats say he's too old.
00:25:45.000 And 74% of independents say the same.
00:25:48.000 This is something that the White House, the Biden campaign, cannot avoid.
00:25:52.000 It is a reality.
00:25:53.000 It might be uncomfortable for some people to talk about.
00:25:56.000 But when you have private dinner parties, when you go out at the ice cream place in the summer, people do.
00:26:01.000 Even Democrats who like Joe Biden and plan to support him, they do have concerns about his age.
00:26:07.000 Yes, they do.
00:26:08.000 And it's just it's just a fact that they have to deal with.
00:26:10.000 I mean, the fact also is that those Democrats, I think, are highly unlikely to say, OK, he's too old.
00:26:18.000 I'll vote for Donald Trump.
00:26:21.000 Yeah, that's a problem.
00:26:22.000 Even his own party knows the man is too old.
00:26:24.000 And by the way, he is.
00:26:25.000 I mean, yesterday, Joe Biden forgot the name of his secretary of Homeland Security, Alejandro Mayorkas.
00:26:30.000 Here he was doing that.
00:26:32.000 Secretary of Homeland Security.
00:26:34.000 The guy who took the job... Thank you for taking the job, pal.
00:26:42.000 Uh-oh.
00:26:42.000 The guy who took the job... Yeah, he's lost.
00:26:47.000 But it's not just that he's lost. 0.90
00:26:48.000 There's also a growing perception that he's a nasty person. 0.66
00:26:51.000 Which, of course, is true. 0.88
00:26:52.000 I've been talking about this for a while.
00:26:54.000 The facade of Joe Biden, captain of empathy, was always a lie. 0.99
00:26:58.000 Joe Biden is a pathological narcissist. 1.00
00:27:00.000 Which is the reason why anytime somebody else is suffering, he immediately starts talking about his own idiotic experiences. 1.00
00:27:06.000 Oh, you just lost a child in a fire in Hawaii? 0.99
00:27:08.000 I'm gonna tell you about that time that my kitchen got set on fire for like 20 minutes.
00:27:12.000 Oh, you lost a child blown up in Afghanistan?
00:27:14.000 I'm gonna tell you about the time that my son came home in a coffin draped with a flag, which is not even true.
00:27:20.000 That's who Joe Biden is.
00:27:21.000 Well, now there's a new book about the last couple of years of the Biden administration by Franklin Fuller, who's a Biden ally, right?
00:27:27.000 Somebody who's friendly toward Biden.
00:27:29.000 And the book is called The Last Politician Inside Joe Biden's White House and the Struggle for America's Future.
00:27:36.000 And Thor talks pretty openly about the fact that Joe Biden does not care about people.
00:27:43.000 Joe Biden is not a person who is truly empathetic.
00:27:48.000 That his famous empathy goes away the minute that essentially The minute that it crosses his political streams.
00:27:58.000 As long as, quote, for a man vaunted for his empathy, he could be detached, even icy,
00:28:03.000 when confronted with the prospect of human suffering.
00:28:06.000 That is what Fuller says about Biden.
00:28:08.000 It's becoming increasingly clear to people.
00:28:09.000 And it should be clear to people.
00:28:11.000 It's one of the reasons why his approval ratings tumbled in the aftermath of Afghanistan.
00:28:14.000 It's not just that, by the way.
00:28:16.000 We now have information that the National Archives has some 5,400 Joe Biden emails using fake names to dish government information to hunters and others as Vice President of the United States.
00:28:26.000 According to the New York Post, the National Archives and Records Administration has admitted
00:28:29.000 it is in possession of nearly 5,400 emails, electronic records and documents,
00:28:33.000 potentially showing President Biden using a pseudonym during his vice president,
00:28:36.000 vice presidency. NARA confirmed the existence of the trove in response to a June 2022 Freedom
00:28:42.000 of Information Act request by the Southeastern Legal Foundation. The request sought emails
00:28:48.000 pertaining to the accounts of Robin Ware, Robert L. Peters and J.R.B. Ware. Those are the, by the
00:28:53.000 By the way, very, very, I would say, I would say no.
00:28:58.000 Non-brilliant pseudonyms right there.
00:29:00.000 Robin Ware would be like Joseph Robinette Biden and Ware is Dello Ware.
00:29:06.000 Get it guys?
00:29:07.000 Genius level stuff right there from Joe Biden.
00:29:09.000 What amazing pseudonym.
00:29:12.000 The Southeastern Legal Foundation on Monday filed suit against NARA for the release of the records.
00:29:17.000 They say all too often public officials abuse their power by using it for personal or political benefit.
00:29:21.000 When they do, many seek to hide it.
00:29:22.000 The only way to preserve governmental integrity is for NARA to release Biden's nearly 5,400 emails to SLF and thus the public.
00:29:29.000 They're accusing NARA of having dragged its feet since the FOIA request since June 2022.
00:29:36.000 Earlier this month, the House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer demanded that NARA hands over any unredacted records in which Joe Biden used a pseudonym.
00:29:43.000 Again, I'm confused as to under what guise NARA is denying access to these emails.
00:29:48.000 It's the National Archives.
00:29:49.000 I mean, they should really be giving access to these emails.
00:29:54.000 All very suspicious.
00:29:56.000 None of this is going to benefit Joe Biden. 1.00
00:29:58.000 Okay, meanwhile, it's time for the stupid racial controversy of the day. 0.99
00:30:03.000 So, we actually have a couple. 1.00
00:30:05.000 The stupidest racial controversy of the day is non-racial at all. 0.98
00:30:09.000 According to foxnews.com, a video circulating on X this week depicted a young elementary school student in Colorado Springs, Colorado being removed from class for having a Gadsden flag patch on his backpack. 0.99
00:30:20.000 The clip appeared to be recorded by Jaden's mother as she, her son, and a school administrator discussed the boy being pulled from class at the Vanguard School that day because of the patch.
00:30:28.000 According to the staffer at the Colorado Charter School, the patch was disruptive to the classroom environment in that it had origins with slavery.
00:30:35.000 No, it doesn't.
00:30:37.000 No, it really, really doesn't.
00:30:39.000 The Gadsden flag, for those who know nothing about it, was formed in 1775, like before
00:30:43.000 the American Revolution.
00:30:44.000 It was formed as another version of the snake flag, the kind of the join or die flag that
00:30:51.000 was actually in play for the colonies since like the 1750s.
00:30:54.000 It has nothing to do with slavery whatsoever at all.
00:30:59.000 So this 12 year old kid who's campaigning for vice president.
00:31:03.000 I love that the school is basically running like a steel dossier oppo on a 12-year-old kid.
00:31:10.000 It's strong stuff happening right here.
00:31:12.000 Apparently, Jaden's mom disputed the school staff member throughout the meeting, arguing the flag originated during the American Revolution.
00:31:18.000 The video opens with Jaden, his mom, and an unnamed school administrator sitting down for a meeting in her office to discuss the child dismissal from class.
00:31:24.000 And the staff member explains the reason they don't want the flag is due to the origins of slavery and the slave trade.
00:31:30.000 Here's what it sounded like.
00:31:33.000 Do they know what the Gadsden flag is?
00:31:34.000 That it's a historical flag?
00:31:37.000 So they're, um, the reason that they do not want the flag, the reason we do not want the flag to slay is due to its origins with slavery and slave trade.
00:31:54.000 That is what was, um, that's the reasoning behind them not wanting the flag.
00:32:00.000 The Gadsden flag.
00:32:01.000 The don't tread on me.
00:32:04.000 Yeah, it has nothing to do with slavery.
00:32:06.000 That's, like, the revolutionary war patch that was displayed when they were fighting the British.
00:32:09.000 Like, that wasn't... that's the revolution.
00:32:11.000 Maybe you're thinking of, like, the Confederate... Confederate pad?
00:32:18.000 Yeah.
00:32:18.000 And, I mean, we teach them to always stick up for your beliefs.
00:32:21.000 And, I mean, you're going over the revolution lists for seventh grade.
00:32:25.000 I mean, the Founding Fathers stood up for what they believed in against unjust laws.
00:32:30.000 This is unjust. 1.00
00:32:34.000 I like this kid just sitting there being like, oh, the entire administration is filled with morons. 1.00
00:32:39.000 It's pretty amazing stuff. 0.99
00:32:40.000 So the family has turned over some of the emails on this.
00:32:45.000 Ms. Blank, as discussed, I'm providing you the rationale for determining
00:32:49.000 the Gadsden flag is considered an unacceptable symbol.
00:32:52.000 First case, when EEOC required the complaint to be reviewed.
00:32:55.000 Tied to Confederate flag and other white supremacy groups, including patriot groups, and also tied to hate groups.
00:33:01.000 So apparently the idea is that if some bad people use the Gadsden flag,
00:33:06.000 this means that the Gadsden flag is itself bad.
00:33:09.000 Which is kind of weird because I know a lot of bad people who use the BLM flag.
00:33:13.000 I don't see anybody on the left saying it's bad.
00:33:17.000 And the mom wrote back, Respectfully, everything can be considered racist and tied to white supremacy.
00:33:20.000 It's sad because when everything becomes racist, nothing is.
00:33:22.000 That's a problem for people of color like me.
00:33:24.000 When we actually need to cry racism and oppression and it's actually happening, no one will take it seriously.
00:33:29.000 I think making everything racist is racist, lol.
00:33:31.000 I'll type in random things I see from the school and type in racist.
00:33:33.000 Into the Google search bar and let's see what I can come up with.
00:33:36.000 Air?
00:33:36.000 Racist?
00:33:37.000 Math?
00:33:38.000 Racist?
00:33:39.000 Definitely racist.
00:33:40.000 As a person of color, I agree. 0.92
00:33:41.000 Totally racist.
00:33:45.000 Good stuff right there.
00:33:47.000 Again, it is amazing.
00:33:48.000 By the way, this is so petty that even the governor of Colorado, who's a Democrat, Jared Polis, he's like, no, this is not a thing. 0.97
00:33:54.000 Jared Polis was like, this is ridiculous.
00:33:58.000 He shared remarks, he said, I think it's great when kids express themselves in different ways as long as they're not creating a disruptive environment. 0.80
00:34:03.000 Certainly the Gadsden flag is a great iconic American flag.
00:34:06.000 Other kids have LGBT flags, other have flags of major political parties. 0.73
00:34:11.000 It's so ridiculously absurd.
00:34:13.000 By the way, even comparing the Gadsden flag to the LGBT flag is absurd. 0.59
00:34:17.000 The Gadsden flag is just a flag that symbolized the United States.
00:34:21.000 By the way, we're going to be talking with Jayden a little bit later on in the show during member block.
00:34:25.000 So apparently they're doubling down, but not on the Gadsden flag.
00:34:28.000 They're allowing him the Gadsden flag, but he has a gun rights patch and that has to go away.
00:34:33.000 So apparently, you know, patches that are associated with actual amendments to the United States Constitution, those probably need to go away.
00:34:41.000 I have serious questions as to whether the school is banning other similarly political statements.
00:34:46.000 Oh man, geniuses at all levels.
00:34:49.000 Probably we should delegate pretty much all educational power to these people without any veto power over them. 0.72
00:34:55.000 That's probably the best, I think.
00:34:57.000 That'll work out absolutely fabulously.
00:34:59.000 Okay, we'll get to, in just one second, updates on Hurricane Idalia first.
00:35:04.000 Let's talk about Chris.
00:35:06.000 Chris is a guy who works for the show.
00:35:08.000 And Chris's job is to pull the clips for the show from the schedule every night.
00:35:13.000 And he does a great job of it.
00:35:14.000 I mean, we send him like tons of clips every single night.
00:35:16.000 He pulls them for the morning.
00:35:17.000 He pulls them leading up to the show.
00:35:19.000 But sometimes, sometimes, On rare occasions, it is the wrong clip.
00:35:24.000 Or the clip is cut too short.
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00:37:05.000 Okay, meanwhile...
00:37:06.000 Hurricane Idelia has been slamming the panhandle of Florida.
00:37:11.000 It was upgraded briefly to a Category 4.
00:37:13.000 It was then downgraded to a Category 3 as it made landfall.
00:37:16.000 Obviously, we are keeping an eye on what is going on over there and praying for all the people in the path of this hurricane.
00:37:22.000 It's got a major storm surge.
00:37:24.000 It was up at 125 miles an hour in terms of the speed of the wind.
00:37:30.000 I mean, catastrophic kind of stuff, obviously.
00:37:33.000 The governor of Florida is on top of it, Governor DeSantis.
00:37:37.000 He says that they have 1.1 million gallons of fuel that are stored for people.
00:37:41.000 We're now up to 1.1 million gallons of fuel that is on standby to be able to mitigate any fuel interruptions, and sometimes you have it, sometimes you don't.
00:37:52.000 We'd rather be safe than sorry, so that fuel is there, and that can be deployed as needed if there is an interruption in fuel.
00:38:00.000 Also, there are 100,000 Florida households that have already had their power restored as of the morning.
00:38:06.000 So, the state of Florida is on top of this thing.
00:38:09.000 How you handle a crisis obviously can boost you, both politically, domestically, in terms of your home state, but also in terms of national politics.
00:38:16.000 That does make some difference.
00:38:18.000 Meanwhile, Speaking of national politics, President Trump has said the quiet part out loud.
00:38:22.000 He's now saying that he has opened the idea of Vivek Ramaswamy for Vice President, which is one of the most expected things I have ever heard in my entire life, since Vivek is basically running for Vice President at this point.
00:38:31.000 Here he was with Glenn back yesterday.
00:38:33.000 Have you thought of Vice President Ramaswamy?
00:38:38.000 Well, I think he's great.
00:38:39.000 Look, anybody that said, I'm the best president in a generation, I don't know, you'll have to define generation.
00:38:46.000 And he said it a couple of times, and he said it in a hundred years.
00:38:50.000 I have to like a guy like that.
00:38:52.000 You know, I can't get upset with him, but he's a smart guy.
00:38:55.000 He's a young guy.
00:38:56.000 He's got a lot of talent.
00:38:58.000 He's a very, very intelligent person.
00:39:02.000 He's got good energy, and he could be in some form of something.
00:39:06.000 I tell you, I think he'd be very good.
00:39:08.000 I think he's very good.
00:39:08.000 I think he's really distinguished himself.
00:39:12.000 Again, is there any doubt that Donald Trump, when he sees you as a threat, you're Ron DeSanctimus, you're Ron Meatball, you're Ronda.
00:39:22.000 Like the minute you're a threat to him, he tries to squash you like a bug.
00:39:25.000 If you're not a threat to him, he's your very best friend.
00:39:28.000 So, I mean, it's a little weird.
00:39:29.000 There was a viral clip of a Vivek yesterday, which I do love these old clips.
00:39:33.000 Vivek was on hardball with Chris Matthews back in like 2003.
00:39:39.000 So at the time, he was in college.
00:39:41.000 By the way, so was Pete Buttigieg on this show.
00:39:42.000 This is really funny.
00:39:43.000 So MSNBC, everybody's got the early 2003 haircut.
00:39:48.000 His haircut looks a lot like mine at the same time in my life.
00:39:51.000 And Vivek is asking Al Sharpton about why he should vote for the person with the least experience in the race.
00:39:56.000 So I assume Vivek at this time was a Democrat.
00:40:00.000 Hello, I'm Vivek, and I want to ask you, last week on the show we had Senator Kerry, and this week, and the week before we had Senator Edwards, and my question for you is, of all the Democratic candidates out there, why should I vote for the one with the least political experience?
00:40:14.000 Well, you shouldn't, because I have the most political experience.
00:40:21.000 I got involved in the political movement when I was 12 years old, and I've been involved in social policy for the
00:40:31.000 last 30 years.
00:40:33.000 So don't confuse people that have a job with political experience.
00:40:40.000 Head of some local bureaucracy has a job in Cambridge.
00:40:45.000 That doesn't mean that they have political experience and it doesn't mean they have experience to run the United States government.
00:40:52.000 So I think that we confuse title holders with political experience as we have seen with the present occupant in the White House.
00:41:00.000 George Bush was a governor and clearly has shown he doesn't have political experience.
00:41:08.000 Okay, this is only funny because the question that Vivek was asking there is about lack of political experience.
00:41:13.000 Why should I vote for you?
00:41:14.000 Obviously, Vivek is now the person on stage with no political experience and he's running for president of the United States.
00:41:19.000 By the way, just a quick note, the same exact year, I also asked Al Sharpton a question.
00:41:25.000 I think I was, let's see, in 2003, I would have been 19 years old.
00:41:29.000 And the question that I asked Al Sharpton in 2003 was why he had helped incite not one but two riots.
00:41:37.000 So, slightly different questions there, depending on your political perspective.
00:41:42.000 Okay, meanwhile, Hollywood continues to sink into the mire.
00:41:45.000 The latest indicator is five late-night hosts who nobody even knew was missing.
00:41:49.000 Did you know that those late-night hosts weren't even on the air?
00:41:52.000 Did you notice it?
00:41:53.000 I didn't notice it, because no one noticed it. 0.95
00:41:56.000 But now, they have formed their own crappy podcast.
00:41:58.000 I say it's crappy because I actually tried to listen to some of it yesterday and it's pretty unlistenable.
00:42:02.000 It is Stephen Colbert, Jimmy Fallon, Jimmy Kimmel, Seth Meyers, and John Oliver all created a podcast called Strike Force 5.
00:42:09.000 Because they're striking, guys.
00:42:10.000 Because you see, they're on strike.
00:42:12.000 But they still want to make some money, I assume, off the podcast.
00:42:15.000 And they're teaming up for a new podcast aimed at helping their staff as the strike continues.
00:42:19.000 It's a special 12-part podcast series.
00:42:21.000 It sounds like somewhere between cancer and death.
00:42:24.000 Here is a little bit of what it sounds like.
00:42:28.000 One more time, Jimmy.
00:42:29.000 Hi, I'm Jimmy Fallon.
00:42:31.000 I'm Stephen Colbert.
00:42:32.000 I'm Jimmy Kimmel.
00:42:33.000 I thought when you said Jimmy, you meant me, Jimmy, but you meant Jimmy, Jimmy.
00:42:36.000 I always mean you.
00:42:38.000 But when you say Seth Meyers, who do you mean?
00:42:42.000 I mean, John Oliver.
00:42:43.000 It's the five of us together for maybe an hour a day.
00:42:49.000 Strikeforce5 is the name of our podcast.
00:42:52.000 Subscribe to it now.
00:42:53.000 Spotify or wherever else you get your podcasts. 0.99
00:42:56.000 But Spotify, you f***. 0.98
00:43:02.000 Welcome to the industry, gang. 0.99
00:43:06.000 And not everybody is built for podcasting.
00:43:08.000 Let's just put it that way.
00:43:10.000 That's still, I assume, a better sort of backup plan than the backup plan of Drea DiMatteo.
00:43:15.000 She is the really excellent actress from The Sopranos.
00:43:20.000 She played Adriana LaServa.
00:43:23.000 She has now joined OnlyFans, which is, I suppose, one way of making money.
00:43:28.000 How old is Drea DiMatteo at this point? 1.00
00:43:30.000 She's 51.
00:43:33.000 If you're relegated at 51 to doing OnlyFans, something has gone wrong in your life.
00:43:38.000 That seems like kind of a problem.
00:43:40.000 But indeed, this has been her backup plan.
00:43:43.000 Just showing you how well things are going in Hollywood.
00:43:47.000 According to USA Today, She announced this week on Instagram she's taking her talents to OnlyFans.
00:43:52.000 OnlyFans is live right now.
00:43:53.000 Her OnlyFans photo banner features a picture of her donning a star-printed blue bikini.
00:43:59.000 And her profile pictures features a not-safe-for-work snap of herself posing on a mattress wearing nothing but cowboy boots.
00:44:05.000 The Sipornos reads her bio on OnlyFans.
00:44:10.000 Yeah.
00:44:11.000 Hollywood.
00:44:12.000 Slow clap for our moral betterers over there.
00:44:14.000 They're doing an amazing job.
00:44:16.000 Okay, time for some things I like.
00:44:17.000 So, an actual piece of good news.
00:44:20.000 According to the Daily Wire, a Canadian father who was thrown in jail after quote-unquote misgendering his gender-confused teenage daughter has now scored a legal win in the British Columbia Court of Appeal.
00:44:28.000 A judgment issued earlier this month said Robert Hoogland did not have to spend any more time behind bars.
00:44:32.000 The court dropped an order for him to pay a $30,000 fine.
00:44:35.000 Hoogland said I expected I would finish, if not all of that six months, a big chunk of it.
00:44:39.000 This is a huge win.
00:44:40.000 What it does is, it was setting a precedent.
00:44:42.000 What they wanted was a real deterrent for parents, especially when they're standing up against trans agenda, with what's being pushed through the schools, by the school counselors, and for all of these different things.
00:44:50.000 Hoogland was featured anonymously in the Daily Wire's enormous hit documentary, What is a Woman? 1.00
00:44:55.000 And he took legal action after a Canadian children's hospital in 2018 told him his daughter, who was 13, was going to be injected with testosterone without his consent.
00:45:05.000 In British Columbia, the Infants Act permits minors to consent to their own trans treatments if doctors think it is in their best interest and parents' consent becomes irrelevant.
00:45:12.000 The court said the girl could move forward with the testosterone and said Hoogland was barred from publicly misgendering his daughter, so he couldn't even refer to her as his daughter.
00:45:20.000 Hoogland continues to speak out.
00:45:22.000 He was thrown in jail after he talked about the case.
00:45:25.000 And his daughter, who's found in contempt of court.
00:45:28.000 So, um, he served about two months behind bars.
00:45:31.000 Most of that time he was in solitary confinement.
00:45:33.000 Absolute insanity.
00:45:34.000 By the way, this is the sort of stuff that if the left had its way, would come to America.
00:45:37.000 In California, I'm sure they would pursue something like this.
00:45:41.000 The good news is that he won an appeal court and he is now out for the moment.
00:45:45.000 Alrighty, coming up, we're going to be speaking with Jaden, the 12-year-old who was kicked out of class in Colorado for wearing a Gadsden flag.
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