The Ben Shapiro Show - This Worldview Is TOTALLY EVIL…And It’s Now Mainstream

00:00:00.000 Folks, there is a worldview that has now become prevalent in the United States and across the West.

00:00:04.000 It is actually evil.

00:00:05.000 Not just mistaken, actually evil.

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00:00:38.000 So there is a clip that is now going around the internet of Ta-Nehisi Coates.

00:00:42.000 Ta-Nehisi Coates is a racial conflagrationist author who believes truly terrible things. 0.98

00:00:48.000 He's been given pretty much every award that our stupid society has to offer, 1.00

00:00:54.000 that our self-defeating white liberals have to offer. 1.00

00:00:58.000 He has, for example, received over the course of his career a wide variety of awards.

00:01:04.000 He was given, for example, a MacArthur Fellowship from MacArthur Foundation.

00:01:10.000 You won a George Polk Award in 2014 for commentary.

00:01:13.000 He was given a 2015 National Book Award for nonfiction.

00:01:17.000 He is the toast of the town.

00:01:18.000 Ta-Nehisi Coates is treated as though he is a moral paragon, a sort of prophet of our times.

00:01:25.000 That is just how he is treated.

00:01:26.000 He's treated by the entire media this way.

00:01:29.000 So much so that if you ask him a difficult question, all of CBS News melts down, which is what happened last week.

00:01:35.000 He was on a show. A reporter asked him a tough question, and that reporter then took it directly in the teeth from the CBS News brass.

00:01:42.000 But what Ta-Nehisi Coates believes is actually evil, and it is emblematic of a broader worldview that has now infused large swaths of the Democratic Party.

00:01:50.000 Not every Democrat. Large swaths of the upper elite of the Democratic Party believe exactly what Ta-Nehisi Coates believes.

00:01:57.000 Huge swaths of the left in Europe believe what Ta-Nehisi Coates believes.

00:02:02.000 So Ta-Nehisi Coates, just so that you know who he is and the reason why he's important, again, this is a person who's considered perhaps the leading intellectual light of the left in the United States, for sure.

00:02:14.000 And Ta-Nehisi Coates, he was questioned, as we say, on CBS News because he has a new book out called The Message.

00:02:20.000 And this book, The Message, is basically just a rabid screed about how evil Israel is. 0.77

00:02:25.000 Now, prior to that, he'd used the same exact worldview to talk about how evil the United States is.

00:02:30.000 But the thing that's setting people's hair on fire is what he said in an interview with former alleged comedian Trevor Noah.

00:02:37.000 So here he was justifying the October attacks and saying that were he a Palestinian, he himself might have entered Israel and saw men, women, children engaged in...

00:02:48.000 Who knows? Here is Ta-Nehisi Coates explaining.

00:02:52.000 And I haven't said this out loud, but I think about it a lot.

00:02:56.000 Well, I... 20 years old, born into Gaza, which is a giant open-air jail. 0.77

00:03:05.000 And what I mean by that is if my father is a fisherman and he goes too far out into the sea, he might get shot by somebody off of, you know, inside of Israeli boats.

00:03:15.000 If my mother picks the olive trees and she gets too close to the wall, she might be shot.

00:03:21.000 If my little sister has, you know, cancer and she needs treatment because there are no, you know, facilities to do that in Gaza and I don't get the right permit, she might die.

00:03:30.000 And I grow up under that oppression and that poverty and the wall comes down.

00:03:35.000 Am I also strong enough or even constructed in such a way where I say, this is too far.

00:03:42.000 I don't know that I am.

00:03:44.000 Hmm. Okay, and they are sitting there nodding as though he has said something deep.

00:03:50.000 So first of all, put aside the lies.

00:03:51.000 Put aside the idea that Israel is somehow keeping cancer-ridden children in Gaza for no reason.

00:03:56.000 There are several dozen hospitals in Gaza.

00:03:58.000 Most of them were used as funds by Hamas.

00:04:00.000 Billions of dollars flow into the Gaza Strip and they are used entirely by Hamas in order 0.56

00:04:04.000 to build up terror facilities.

00:04:06.000 But it is also true that many of the people who were in the Gaza envelope by Hamas were

00:04:10.000 people who literally made it their daily business to drive people with cancer from Gaza to Israeli

00:04:14.000 hospitals.

00:04:15.000 In fact, Yahya Sinwar, the leader of Hamas, was in jail and the Israelis treated him for

00:04:20.000 brain cancer, healed him and then released him.

00:04:23.000 When he's talking about people being shot for picking olive trees.

00:04:26.000 No, if you get too close to the no-man's land in the border area and you refuse to obey orders, then you are taking risk in your own hands.

00:04:33.000 Put aside all of that. Listen to the simple insanity of what he is saying.

00:04:37.000 He is justifying the massacres of October because they are the quote-unquote victims.

00:04:42.000 So Ta-Nehisi Coates spends a lot of time justifying the unjustifiable.

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00:05:50.000 Now, to understand why this matters for America, you have to understand that this is not about Israel for Ta-Nehisi Coates.

00:05:55.000 It's about something far deeper.

00:05:57.000 And when he is justifying terrorism, what he is really doing is saying that if you are a member of a victim class, a class that he, as a self-appointed prophet, gets to define, if you are a member of a victim class, you have the right, nay, perhaps the obligation, to engage in full-scale violence and terrorism.

00:06:15.000 What Ta-Nehisi Coates says there about Gazan civilians crossing the border and engaging in murder of children, what he says there could very easily be applied to the of white Americans under his own worldview, under his own rubric.

00:06:30.000 He's been very clear about this.

00:06:31.000 He is not exactly hiding the ball.

00:06:33.000 And this is the amazing thing. There's nothing new here, by the way.

00:06:59.000 If you're a member of a victim class, you should be able to do violence to people who are members of the quote-unquote victimizer class.

00:07:06.000 And again, anybody who's a member of a quote-unquote victim class, according to Ta-Nehisi Coates, has literally no agency.

00:07:12.000 And if you're a member of a victimizer class, according to Ta-Nehisi Coates, you deserve violence to be done to you and your children.

00:07:19.000 And again, this is part of a broader worldview that applies to the United States.

00:07:22.000 And this is the part that's so sick about what's happening in the United States.

00:07:24.000 This worldview has been taken into the bones of the left.

00:07:28.000 This used to be a fringe crazy town worldview.

00:07:31.000 Jean-Paul Sartre was not representative of the party of, say, Hubert Humphrey in the United States in 1968.

00:07:37.000 But Ta-Nehisi Coates is a lauded, celebrated, champagne-drenched intellectual in the pages of The Atlantic.

00:07:46.000 He is treated as though he has something important to say.

00:07:49.000 So I want to trace his ideology a little bit here, because then you'll understand that what he's saying about Israel is really not about Israel at all.

00:07:55.000 So, He comes out with a book called Between the World and Me.

00:07:59.000 That book comes out in the year 2015, right in the middle of the racial reckoning.

00:08:04.000 Because after all, Ferguson happened in 2014.

00:08:08.000 And this is his worldview, Ta-Nehisi Coates.

00:08:11.000 Okay, he says about experiencing, his big example of experiencing racism in the United States is that one time he was on an elevator and someone said something to his child, and this was a telescoping of all America's racist history into an incident on an elevator in New York.

00:08:26.000 Okay, here's what he writes in Between the World and Me.

00:08:27.000 Quote, We're good to go.

00:08:44.000 And there was my own insecurity and my ability to protect your black body and more.

00:08:48.000 There was my sense that this woman was pulling rank. 0.96

00:08:51.000 I knew, for instance, that she would not have pushed a black child out on my part of Flatbush because she would be afraid there and would sense, if not know, that there would be a penalty for such an action.

00:08:59.000 But I was not out on my part of Flatbush.

00:09:01.000 And I was not in West Baltimore.

00:09:02.000 And I was far from the Mecca. 0.62

00:09:04.000 The Mecca is what he suggests is sort of the racial utopia. 0.63

00:09:07.000 I forgot all of that.

00:09:08.000 I was only aware that someone had invoked their right over the body of my son.

00:09:12.000 I turned and spoke to this woman and my words were hot with all of the moment and all of my history.

00:09:17.000 So first of all, the overall purple writing is beyond.

00:09:20.000 But understand the incident that is the supposed inciting incident for his realization about race in America.

00:09:26.000 He's on an elevator with his child and a white woman is irritated the kid isn't moving fast enough in New York. 0.96

00:09:31.000 A place of the rude. He immediately telescopes all of America's terrible evil racial history into this incident. 0.93

00:09:39.000 It never occurs to him that maybe the lady's just rude. 0.99

00:09:42.000 Never occurs to him that maybe she's in a hurry because she has a reason to be in a hurry. 0.99

00:09:45.000 No, all of America is racist and evil. 0.63

00:09:48.000 And you can find that out by looking into the eyes of another person and never asking them a question.

00:09:54.000 Because Ta-Nehisi Coates, as an incredibly rich and celebrated author, is a victim.

00:09:58.000 And that white lady in the elevator was a victimizer. 1.00

00:10:01.000 A racial victimizer. Not just a victimizer of the child, by being rude. 0.98

00:10:04.000 A victimizer in a class sense.

00:10:06.000 She's a member of a victimizer class. 0.97

00:10:08.000 So what does that mean for Ta-Nehisi Coates? 0.94

00:10:10.000 It means, for example, that he doesn't give a s*** about 9-11.

00:10:14.000 He actually says this in between the world and me.

00:10:16.000 It is beyond comprehension that this country grants the worldview of people like Ta-Nehisi Coates any time of day at all, let alone making this person a celebrated author. 1.00

00:10:26.000 He's a moral imbecile. 1.00

00:10:28.000 But that's too kind because imbecility suggests that stupidity lies at the root of this. 1.00

00:10:32.000 It's not imbecility. It is malign evil, the worldview that Ta-Nehisi Coates expresses. 1.00

00:10:37.000 By the way, this is nothing new. I've been saying this for a decade.

00:10:39.000 Everybody else is just catching up. Here is what he says about 9-11.

00:10:45.000 This is about, by the way, firefighters and police officers on 9-11.

00:10:48.000 Because remember, America is a racialist evil country in which there's a white supremacist class and then victim classes.

00:10:54.000 And he's a member of the victim class. 0.68

00:10:56.000 So he talks in his book about 9-11.

00:10:58.000 And he's talking about the firefighters and police officers who are turned to Ash.

00:11:02.000 Quote, They were not human to me.

00:11:05.000 Black, white, or whatever, they were menaces of nature. 1.00

00:11:08.000 They were the fire, the comet, the storm, which could, with no justification, shatter my body. 0.56

00:11:14.000 Now, he uses, throughout his writing, the term body, because he believes, I assume, that if he says body as opposed to me, then this makes it have more import, because now it's all about the physical being of black people or something.

00:11:29.000 In reality, it is just a cheap way of trying to buy literary cred.

00:11:34.000 But he then explains in an interview with New York Magazine that same year that the death of one particular black person at the hands of police so alienated Coates, this is New York Magazine, that when he watched 9-11 slightly stoned on the roof of his Brooklyn building, he recalls that he felt nothing at all.

00:11:52.000 You must always remember, Coates writes to his child, that the sociology, the history, the economics, the graphs, the charts, the regressions, all land with great violence upon the body.

00:12:03.000 This is the setting up of a victim class that is then justified in doing literally anything.

00:12:07.000 He feels nothing about 9-11. Nothing.

00:12:09.000 Let me just express something to you.

00:12:11.000 If you feel nothing about 9-11 on 9-11, you should not be in the United States.

00:12:15.000 It is that simple. You do not belong in the West.

00:12:18.000 If you feel nothing about 9-11...

00:12:20.000 The gravest act of evil of my lifetime.

00:12:23.000 You don't deserve to be here.

00:12:25.000 You don't deserve to be living off the fruits of the civilization that you are currently leeching off of, which is what Ta-Nehisi Coates is.

00:12:31.000 He is a scavenger. He is a leech on the body of civilization, of Western civilization.

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00:13:53.000 In that same book, he talks about his generalized worldview.

00:13:56.000 He talks about slavery reparations.

00:13:58.000 There's an article in 2014 that really sort of exploded him on the scene.

00:14:01.000 There's this terrible article for The Atlantic about...

00:14:05.000 Slavery reparations. And we were all supposed to pretend that it was deep.

00:14:07.000 It was really, really not deep. 1.00

00:14:09.000 It was incredibly stupid. Basically, the idea was America is a terrible racial place with a terrible racial history. 1.00

00:14:14.000 Therefore, black people deserve reparations. 1.00

00:14:15.000 He doesn't explain how that would happen.

00:14:17.000 He doesn't explain the pragmatic method by which you would determine whether someone ought to receive reparations or pay reparations.

00:14:22.000 It was simple. Everything to Ta-Nehisi Coates is simple.

00:14:26.000 Not because he's a simpleton.

00:14:27.000 I don't think that he's a simpleton. 1.00

00:14:29.000 It's easy to attribute simplistic ideas to morons. 1.00

00:14:34.000 I don't think he's a moron. 0.99

00:14:36.000 I think that evil constantly masquerades as simplicity in cases like this. 0.87

00:14:40.000 So here is what he says about reparations in between the world and me.

00:14:43.000 Quote, In the months before the article was published, I felt that I had at last discovered the answer to the haunting question of why my people so reliably settled at the bottom of nearly every socioeconomic indicator.

00:14:53.000 The answer was simple.

00:14:54.000 There it is, very simple. The persistence of our want was matched exactly to the persistence of our plunder.

00:14:59.000 I was blessed with the gift, and the gift was not simply the knowledge that they were lying about us, about this country, about themselves, but the proof.

00:15:07.000 Well, that is simple.

00:15:10.000 That is simple. Failure equals victimization.

00:15:13.000 Group failure equals group victimization.

00:15:15.000 Now, the problem for Tonhasi Coates is that there are an awful lot of members of groups in the United States and elsewhere who have been historically victimized.

00:15:23.000 One of those groups happens to be the Jews, which, as we'll see, is one of the reasons he despises Israel was to see it wiped off the planet and justifies October. 0.99

00:15:30.000 It turns out that when other victimized groups In history and today, succeed, this thwarts his entire victim-victimizer narrative.

00:15:39.000 When it turns out that people of any race act with agency and overcome historic obstacles in order to succeed, it violates his entire worldview in which victims have no agency and victimizers are necessarily victorious, which means, by the same sort of equation, that everybody who is an achiever is in fact a victimizer.

00:15:58.000 And he makes this clear, fast forward 10 years, and you're now in the message.

00:16:02.000 Okay, the message is his new book, the one that we are supposed to treat as though it deserves some sort of great moral respect.

00:16:07.000 In this book, he writes, quote, I remember watching World News Tonight with my father and deriving from him a dull sense that the Israelis were white and the Palestinians were black, which is to say that the former were the oppressors and the latter are the oppressed.

00:16:21.000 It's the exact same language, right?

00:16:22.000 Same exact language with reparations, 9-11, with Israel.

00:16:28.000 It's very simple. Victim equals black. 1.00

00:16:31.000 Victimizer equals white. 0.96

00:16:33.000 Israelis, successful, equal white. 0.98

00:16:35.000 Palestinians, failure as a group in terms of economic and socioeconomic status, equals black. 1.00

00:16:40.000 That simple, according to Ta-Nehisi. 0.95

00:16:42.000 And there's one other element.

00:16:44.000 Victim means you now get to do whatever you want to do to anyone else.

00:16:51.000 Literally anything.

00:16:53.000 Murder, babysitter, you get to do it.

00:16:56.000 You're fully justified.

00:16:58.000 Everything is Nat Turner's rebellion.

00:17:01.000 So he says about Israel, So again, he is just telescoping Jim Crow onto Israel, which is absurd, since 20% of the Israeli population is Arab.

00:17:27.000 Half of Israeli Jews are from Arab countries and therefore not white in any technical sense.

00:17:31.000 Doesn't matter. He's got the model.

00:17:33.000 Everything has to fit inside the model.

00:17:36.000 Now, why is this important?

00:17:37.000 The reason it's important is because Ta-Nehisi Coates, as a lauded intellectual, is not actually just speaking for himself.

00:17:43.000 He is representative of a much broader contingent in the American left.

00:17:48.000 As evidenced by the fact that Trevor Noah is sitting there and nodding at him.

00:17:51.000 So Trevor Noah, who had a show for years on Comedy Central, where I'm not sure he ever told an actual joke, not only does he sit there and nod at Ta-Nehisi Coates as he says these truly evil things, he then explains that October is basically like the American Revolution, which is strange, since George Washington and the colonials did not, in fact, travel to Britain, babies in their crib, every British woman they could find.

00:18:14.000 Strange. Here...

00:18:17.000 The moral insanity of these people. 0.73

00:18:19.000 But again, I hesitate to say insanity because I don't actually think they're insane.

00:18:22.000 I think they're quite sane. They're just evil. 0.88

00:18:24.000 Here's Trevor Noah being evil.

00:18:26.000 If you remove every context from everything, then everything could go anywhere.

00:18:31.000 You know what I mean? If you remove America's history and America's this, then it's like, yeah, those people who fought against the British, they were terrorists.

00:18:40.000 You know what I mean? You can call it like, yeah, the Boston Tea Party.

00:18:43.000 That's terrorism. Okay, so we are now back to one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

00:18:50.000 This was an argument actually made by people like Michael Moore during the insurgency in Iraq.

00:18:54.000 This has been a deep-rooted part of left-wing ideology for a very long time.

00:18:59.000 That the West is evil.

00:19:00.000 Anyone who attacks the West is then necessarily victimized by the West and good.

00:19:04.000 And here's the thing. It is indistinguishable in many ways from the ideology of somebody like Barack Obama who is actually President of the United States.

00:19:11.000 I'll read you a quote. It's a quote from either Ta-Nehisi Coates or Barack Obama, you choose.

00:19:15.000 Quote, I know, I have seen the desperation and disorder of the powerless, how it twists the lives of children on the streets of Jakarta or Nairobi, how easily they slip into violence and despair.

00:19:27.000 He compares those, by the way, to the south side of Chicago.

00:19:30.000 That would be Barack Obama. Indistinguishable from the words of Ta-Nehisi Coates.

00:19:34.000 You see, all those kids in Indonesia or in Kenya, exactly the same south side of Chicago or in the Gaza Strip, these are all members of a victim class. 1.00

00:19:45.000 These are all members of a victim class, according to Barack Obama.

00:19:49.000 That ideology is spread throughout the Democratic Party and throughout our legacy media, which is why it is now emerging, for example, That apparently, 2023, CBS News informed people, informed its own journalists, that you should not, under any circumstances, use the term terrorism to actually describe what happened on October.

00:20:13.000 Literally the day after.

00:20:16.000 Literally the day after. Okay, quote.

00:20:19.000 This is from CBS News. You wonder why CBS News is treating Ta-Nehisi Coates with kid gloves?

00:20:22.000 Because they agree with him. This came, email, October 8th, 2023.

00:20:27.000 Quote, reporting on this weekend's violence in Israel and Gaza requires a closer look at the language we use when describing events.

00:20:32.000 For instance, the U.S. government considers Hamas a terrorist organization.

00:20:35.000 However, suggesting an individual is a terrorist may be inaccurate depending on the facts.

00:20:40.000 There are some who believe the attack by Hamas is a justified retaliation to Israeli occupation of their lands.

00:20:46.000 Others believe this to be an unprovoked attack on Israel and as such, Israel has every right to defend itself.

00:20:49.000 That's an email from CBS News.

00:20:51.000 Who knows? Who knows?

00:20:53.000 Perhaps. The mass murder of babies.

00:20:57.000 Perhaps all of that is just a justified attack.

00:21:00.000 The language of Ta-Nehisi Coates.

00:21:02.000 The language of Barack Obama.

00:21:04.000 Victim, victimizer.

00:21:06.000 That's all. That's the entire narrative.

00:21:09.000 And it's something bought into by Barack Obama.

00:21:11.000 It's something that's bought into by Kamala Harris as well, by the way. 0.59

00:21:14.000 Back in 2019, 2020, she was much clearer about this.

00:21:17.000 Now she's trying to obfuscate. 1.00

00:21:18.000 But she came out, if you remember, back in 2019 in favor of slavery reparations.

00:21:23.000 She said, quote, we had over 200 years of slavery.

00:21:25.000 We had Jim Crow for almost a century. 0.98

00:21:26.000 We had legalized discrimination, segregation.

00:21:28.000 We have to recognize that everybody did not start out on an equal footing in this country, and in particular, black people have not. 1.00

00:21:34.000 Now this worldview, folks, is rancid. 0.53

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00:22:37.000 You wonder why Kamala Harris was bailing out rioters in 2020? 1.00

00:22:40.000 The reason she was bailing out rioters is because in large scale, she agrees.

00:22:45.000 There are victim classes in the United States and those victim classes have a right to be revengeful

00:22:49.000 on the civilization that houses them.

00:22:51.000 That is the generalized worldview here.

00:22:55.000 It is hideous, it is evil, it is dangerous.

00:23:00.000 And again, it is not in any way anomalous.

00:23:03.000 It is not an anomaly with Ta-Nehisi Coates is saying.

00:23:07.000 There are people across America who actually believe it.

00:23:10.000 They're largely on our college campuses, in the legacy media, in cloistered enclaves in New York City, in San Francisco, in Los Angeles, in Chicago.

00:23:17.000 But that is a very powerful cadre of people who believe that.

00:23:21.000 And it's quite terrible. And it is intolerable for a country that hopes at some point for some level of unity, for a country that wishes to defend itself, for a civilization that is worth defending.

00:23:37.000 By the way, the aftermath of the Ta-Nehisi Coates interview on CBS News, which we've talked about this week, the one where he was questioned by a journalist, the aftermath of that is that CBS News, after that interview between Tony Dacapol and Coates, They didn't just bring in Dacapol for a struggle session in front of the entire legacy media staff at CBS News.

00:23:59.000 They then promptly informed all of their journalists they should stop identifying Jerusalem as being part of Israel, despite the fact that Jerusalem is the capital of Israel.

00:24:08.000 Because you see, to acknowledge basic facts and truth runs counter.

00:24:11.000 And there are a lot of people today who are saying, well, you know, Ta-Nehisi Coates, he just makes a bunch of factual errors in his book.

00:24:15.000 Those are not errors. He's lying.

00:24:18.000 He doesn't care enough to find out whether it's true or not, because facts are irrelevant.

00:24:22.000 Remember, if you're a member of the victim class, it's not just that you get to murder.

00:24:26.000 If you're a member of a victim class, according to Ta-Nehisi Coates, you get to lie.

00:24:31.000 Why wouldn't you? After all, it's just a power game.

00:24:35.000 That worldview is evil with a capital E, and we shouldn't forget it.

00:24:39.000 There are lots of disagreements we can have in politics, lots of them in the West.

00:24:43.000 We can disagree about tax rates. We can disagree about the role of government in our lives in terms of subsidies and in terms of regulation.

00:24:51.000 We can disagree in terms of foreign policy, who ought to be backed and to what extent.

00:24:55.000 Those are all rational conversations.

00:24:57.000 What is not a rational conversation is the assumption that if you are a member of a class that Ta-Nehisi Coates deems a victim, you get to participate in evil.

00:25:06.000 And we can tell whether you're a victim in this rubric simply by looking at your level of failure and poverty.

00:25:13.000 That is not a conversation.

00:25:14.000 That is a cudgel. And huge parts of the left are wielding it today.

00:25:20.000 Okay, meanwhile, the Kamala Harris campaign is suffering.

00:25:24.000 They are having a really tough time out there.

00:25:26.000 As we'll see in a moment, they are now trotting out Barack Obama in all of his glory to do this routine.

00:25:32.000 The levels of missteps by this campaign are truly incredible at this point.

00:25:36.000 So if you take a look at the swing states right now, Right now, in the RealClearPolitics polling average nationally, Harris is up a couple of points, but in the swing states, according to the RealClearPolitics polling average, Trump now has a slight lead in Pennsylvania, a bigger lead, actually, in Michigan.

00:25:51.000 He leads in Arizona, he leads in North Carolina, he leads in Georgia.

00:25:55.000 And now remember, all he has to do is win North Carolina, Georgia, Arizona, which he's going to win all three of those, and then he has to pick off one of the blue wall states.

00:26:02.000 Right now, he's leading in at least two, and perhaps all three.

00:26:06.000 In fact, there's internal polling that President Trump just released.

00:26:09.000 There's a poll conducted by Tony Fabrizio and John McLaughlin, and it found Trump with leads ranging from one to five percentage points, not only in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, but also in Nevada.

00:26:21.000 According to that internal polling, Trump is leading by 3% in Arizona.

00:26:24.000 He's leading by 5% in Georgia.

00:26:25.000 He's leading by one in Michigan.

00:26:27.000 He's leading by three in Nevada, one in North Carolina, one in Pennsylvania, one in Wisconsin.

00:26:32.000 Now again, these are all within margin of error.

00:26:34.000 It's still a very close election, but it is very obvious that the momentum is with the Republicans at this point.

00:26:40.000 The New York Times is now admitting that Republicans are about to gain control of the Senate.

00:26:44.000 And they are. I mean, they're going to gain control of the Senate because Jim Justice is going to win in West Virginia, and Tim Sheehy is going to win in Montana.

00:26:51.000 And then it's just a question of how many swing seats Republicans can pick up.

00:26:55.000 So yesterday, I spent time campaigning with Bernie Moreno in Ohio.

00:26:58.000 Bernie is going to win that Senate seat over Sherry Brown, who's a terrible senator and has been there longer than I have been alive, picking up taxpayer money. 1.00

00:27:05.000 Bernie's a terrific candidate.

00:27:07.000 He's going to win over there. That's going to make 52 for the Republicans.

00:27:10.000 Last week, I was out campaigning in Wisconsin.

00:27:14.000 With Eric Hovde, he's going to defeat Tammy Baldwin, I believe, in that race.

00:27:18.000 How do I know? Well, because the last time, there was a Wisconsin Senate race where a Republican was even running close.

00:27:23.000 Ron Johnson was running three to five points behind his opponent and ended up winning that seat.

00:27:27.000 Right now, Hovde is running dead even with Tammy Baldwin.

00:27:29.000 He's got the momentum. I think he wins that race.

00:27:31.000 That takes you to 53. And then you have Dave McCormick.

00:27:34.000 Dave McCormick is, of course, running against Bob Casey in Pennsylvania, running a really tight race there.

00:27:41.000 McCormick is a terrific disciplined candidate.

00:27:43.000 I think Dave pulls that one out too.

00:27:45.000 We'll be campaigning with him a little bit later on.

00:27:46.000 To me, it's obviously very important that Republicans take the Senate, because again,

00:27:49.000 Ntanahasi Coates' worldview rides strong in the Democratic Party and must be defeated.

00:27:54.000 My hope is that Republicans end up with something like 54 seats.

00:27:58.000 Well folks, the left's agenda is quite terrible, which is why Republicans need to take the Senate.

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00:29:04.000 But even the New York Times is now admitting that Republicans are poised to take control of the Senate.

00:29:08.000 And the latest polling from the New York Times and Siena College shows Republicans leading by four in Texas, that's Cruz over Allred, by eight in Montana, where she is blowing out John Tester.

00:29:19.000 Rick Scott is beating Debbie MacArthur Powell by nine points, according to this same polling.

00:29:26.000 So it looks very much as though Republicans are in control in the Senate races.

00:29:32.000 There is one race that's sort of weird, and that is the re-election bid of Senator Deb Fischer, Republican of Nebraska.

00:29:37.000 She's running against an independent named Dan Osborne, and that one is looking a little tighter than it probably should.

00:29:43.000 But Democrats certainly do not have the momentum at this point in time, and they're basically admitting it.

00:29:48.000 According to Politico, Democrats are deploying prominent black surrogates to Michigan to deliver an urgent plea.

00:29:53.000 Black men, we need you.

00:29:56.000 This is one of the reasons why people like Barack Obama are going back out on the trail.

00:29:59.000 Black turnout for Kamala Harris is not nearly what it was for Barack Obama.

00:30:03.000 For a wide variety of reasons, including the fact that Kamala Harris is running a really anti-male campaign. 0.87

00:30:08.000 Black males in particular are not warm to it. 0.74

00:30:10.000 They see her as what she is, an upper-crust coastal elite who has no connection to their lives or their problems. 1.00

00:30:17.000 They are correct in this assessment, by the way.

00:30:19.000 Obama is out there campaigning on behalf...

00:30:23.000 Of Kamala Harris. 0.91

00:30:25.000 And I have to say, the way that he talks to black men, as though membership, again, in the black category means you inherently have to vote for the other black person, is really pretty insulting.

00:30:37.000 It really is.

00:30:39.000 As though all black people have the same experience in the United States or the same ideas in the United States. 0.99

00:30:44.000 Blackness is not a religion like Jewishness, right? 0.78

00:30:47.000 Judaism has a religious component. 0.98

00:30:48.000 You can be a black liberal, you can be a black conservative.

00:30:50.000 It's a color of your skin. 0.95

00:30:52.000 But according to Barack Obama, you need to vote for Kamala because Kamala is a member of your victim class. 0.98

00:31:00.000 We have not yet seen the same kinds of energy and turnout in all courts.

00:31:09.000 Of our neighborhoods and communities as we saw when I was running.

00:31:15.000 Now, I also want to say that that seems to be more pronounced with the brothers.

00:31:25.000 So if you don't mind, just for a second, I'm going to speak to y'all right now.

00:31:32.000 And say that when you have a choice that is this clean, When on the one hand you have somebody who grew up like you, knows you, went to college with you, understands the struggles and pain and joy that comes from those experiences.

00:32:07.000 Notice that at no point does he actually make an argument that she's going to make your life better or be a good president of the United States.

00:32:12.000 He simply says she's a member of your victim class.

00:32:14.000 If she's a member of your victim class, you better get out there and vote for a member of your victim class. 1.00

00:32:17.000 That's why I say Ta-Nehisi Coates, Barack Obama, separated by some of their lingo, not particularly separated in terms of their worldview.

00:32:24.000 It turns out that's really off-putting.

00:32:26.000 People don't like it very much. It also turns out that you know what's off-putting?

00:32:29.000 The absolute disdain that members of the upper echelon of the Democratic Party have for normies.

00:32:34.000 It really is an amazing thing.

00:32:37.000 They're running a campaign where they need to win a blue wall state.

00:32:39.000 All three of these states are blue collar.

00:32:43.000 All three of these states have probably a higher than average number of, say, Catholics.

00:32:47.000 That's true certainly for Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania.

00:32:50.000 And yet, Gretchen Whitmer, who is the awful governor of Michigan, she cut a video yesterday with a podcaster named Liz Plank that if this wasn't what they're going for, I don't know what they're going for.

00:33:03.000 This is It is pretty clearly a derogatory reference to communion.

00:33:08.000 I'm not sure how else to read this exactly.

00:33:11.000 There have been some attempts to say this is just a meme that's going around, but for those who are not memesters, I mean, you talk about it too online.

00:33:18.000 This looks as though Gretchen Whitmer is mocking communion by Liz Plank is on her knees, and weird, weird, these people are weird, on her knees, receiving into her mouth a Dorito put into her mouth by Gretchen Whitmer, who's wearing a Harris Walls hat.

00:33:35.000 The disdain for kind of normal people that rolls off the Democratic Party at this point is truly an incredible thing.

00:33:40.000 Here we go. For those who can't see, it's Liz Plank accepting into her mouth, a la communion, a Dorito from Gretchen Whitmer, who's wearing a Harris Walls hat and then nodding into camera.

00:33:54.000 It's like a dom-sub-weird thing going on.

00:33:58.000 They are so strange.

00:34:00.000 And they are not just strange.

00:34:01.000 They have disdain for Americans.

00:34:03.000 True disdain for Americans. 0.75

00:34:04.000 I mean, if you're a Catholic and you watch that, I don't know how else you read that, except that Gretchen Whitmer shane hot on the Catholics.

00:34:10.000 The religious symbolism there, pretty obvious, I think, to anyone.

00:34:14.000 Meanwhile, how do you really know that Democrats are in trouble?

00:34:17.000 Tim Walz is out there openly saying they should get rid of the Electoral College.

00:34:21.000 When you are in an active race for the presidency and you say we should dump the Electoral College, you're admitting you're losing.

00:34:26.000 That's what that is. You're admitting that you might win the popular vote and lose the Electoral College vote.

00:34:30.000 That's the only reason you want to dump the Electoral College. 0.71

00:34:33.000 You want to change the rules of the game.

00:34:34.000 So here's Tim Walz being made uncomfortable, being asked a tough question.

00:34:38.000 This is how bad journalism has gotten.

00:34:40.000 Apparently the toughest journalist they could find was Michael Strahan.

00:34:44.000 One of the few people to ask a difficult question of a Democrat during this election cycle.

00:34:49.000 I want to go back to something you said on Tuesday.

00:34:51.000 You said, I think all of us know the Electoral College needs to go.

00:34:54.000 But the campaign came out later that night, and they said that's not their stance.

00:34:59.000 Well, it's not the campaign's position.

00:35:00.000 And the point I'm trying to make is that there's folks that feel every vote must count in every state.

00:35:05.000 And I think some of folks feel that's not the case.

00:35:08.000 Our campaign does that.

00:35:09.000 And the point I'm saying is, I'm in five states in two days.

00:35:12.000 We're out there making the case.

00:35:14.000 The campaign's position is clear, that that's not their position.

00:35:17.000 Their position and my position is to make sure that everybody understands their vote no matter what state they're in matters.

00:35:23.000 So that's something that you and President Harris disagree on?

00:35:26.000 I have spoken about it in the past that she's been very clear on this and the campaign and my position is the campaign's position.

00:35:34.000 So, there he is trying to walk it back. 0.94

00:35:36.000 Well, he is a numbskull, as he has declared himself. 0.59

00:35:38.000 In a second, we'll get to Barack Obama, his actual campaign, which apparently is making jokes about Donald Trump and then taking credit for Donald Trump's actual accomplishments.

00:35:46.000 First, Kamala Harris has raised over $1 billion since she entered the race in late July, which makes her the Theranos of political candidates. 0.79

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00:36:59.000 Here's a little bit of the trailer. Until we teach our children that we have to jettison this silly, ignorant ideology, that I can only feel good about myself, If I'm loved by white Americans, and I can only be protected or affirmed if I'm protected and affirmed by my government, we will never go any further. 0.91

00:37:20.000 If we can ever get that sizable chunk, about 15% of the Black vote, away from the Democratic Party, we'll take them down forever. 1.00

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00:37:41.000 So again, Barack Obama is out on the campaign trail in favor of Kamala Harris.

00:37:45.000 He's trying to convince young black men to vote for Kamala Harris.

00:37:48.000 He did that by going to some sort of event and then telling them they need to vote for Kamala Harris because she's black and they're black, so vote for her. 0.89

00:37:55.000 He also suggested, of course, they might be sexist, and that's the reason they're really not voting for her, that if she were a black male, maybe they'd vote for her, but she's a black female and they're misogynist.

00:38:02.000 So we'll see how that works out for him.

00:38:04.000 He also went on the campaign trail and then proceeded to be himself.

00:38:07.000 And I gotta tell you, the power of Barack Obama is non-transferable.

00:38:10.000 He himself is popular.

00:38:12.000 He has never shown any aptitude for transferring that popularity to anyone who's not named Barack Obama, which is why, over the course of his presidency, he lost a dozen governorships.

00:38:20.000 He lost a ton of Senate seats. He lost an enormous number of House seats and state legislatures all over the country.

00:38:24.000 It turns out that the backlash to Barack Obama did not come in the form of a direct electoral backlash to Obama himself.

00:38:30.000 It came in the form of, you know, a backlash to his entire party.

00:38:34.000 So he's out there being himself, and it's not...

00:38:37.000 I don't think it's particularly great for Kamala Harris, frankly.

00:38:40.000 So first, he tries to claim Trump's economy as his own, which is pretty amazing.

00:38:45.000 So you can't have it both ways.

00:38:47.000 Either Donald Trump's economy sucked and he shouldn't be president, or Donald Trump's economy was awesome and he should be president.

00:38:53.000 Obama seems to want to have it both ways.

00:38:55.000 He seems to want to say that Donald Trump's economy was bad, but also it was great, which is why it actually was not Donald Trump's.

00:39:01.000 It was Barack Obama's. Try to follow the big brain logic here from Barack Obama.

00:39:06.000 The reason some people think, I don't know, I remember that economy when he first came in being pretty good.

00:39:12.000 Yeah, it was pretty good, because it was my economy.

00:39:19.000 We had had 75 straight months of job growth that I handed over to him.

00:39:26.000 Thank you.

00:39:29.000 It wasn't something he did.

00:39:33.000 I spent eight years cleaning up the mess that the Republicans had left me the last time.

00:39:41.000 Okay, so I just want to get this straight.

00:39:42.000 If that's the case, that the next president owns the economy of the last president, so you know the last president is responsible for the successes, how do you tap Biden's record?

00:39:51.000 Quick, answer me that.

00:39:53.000 So, if according to Barack Obama, Donald Trump's early economic record is because of Barack Obama, then what about Joe Biden touting his economic record?

00:40:00.000 Is that also because of Donald Trump?

00:40:02.000 Like, how does that work exactly? 1.00

00:40:04.000 He's so arrogant and he's so egocentric. 0.99

00:40:08.000 It really is quite terrible. 0.99

00:40:09.000 And then he told some jokes about how Donald Trump is selling Bibles or something.

00:40:14.000 Again, here's the thing about Barack Obama.

00:40:16.000 If you're going to do the Donald Trump is a con man because he's selling Bibles, you probably should have some respect for the actual Bible, which they think Barack Obama most certainly does not.

00:40:23.000 There's not a single aspect of biblical morality that Barack Obama really truly believes.

00:40:29.000 Constant attempts to sell you stuff.

00:40:32.000 Who does that? Selling you gold sneakers and a $100,000 watch and most recently a Trump Bible.

00:40:45.000 You know, he wants you to buy the Word of God, Donald Trump edition.

00:40:51.000 Got his name right there next to Matthew and Luke.

00:40:55.000 I mean, you could not make this stuff up?

00:41:03.000 If you saw it on Saturday Night Live, you'd say, well, no, that's, I mean, that's going too far.

00:41:07.000 No, he's doing that.

00:41:12.000 Well, I mean, at least Donald Trump's fans want to buy the Bible, as opposed to fans of Barack Obama who apparently want to discard it entirely.

00:41:19.000 He's a guy who called people who believe in God and the Bible bitter clingers.

00:41:23.000 So yeah, forgive me if I don't take your newfound biblical respect all that seriously.

00:41:27.000 And then, of course, Barack Obama roasted Trump, suggesting that he has to change his own diapers because Donald Trump is, of course, really old, which is weird because five seconds ago he was saying Joe Biden was the best candidate for president.

00:41:36.000 By the way, Joe Biden's still the president.

00:41:39.000 I remember buying diapers.

00:41:42.000 I remember the first time I went in the store, right after Malia was born.

00:41:46.000 I was like, what? That's how much diapers cost?

00:41:53.000 I remember changing diapers.

00:41:56.000 You think Donald Trump ever changed a diaper?

00:42:02.000 No! No chance!

00:42:05.000 Yeah.

00:42:07.000 Ha.

00:42:08.000 Ha ha ha.

00:42:10.000 Ha.

00:42:13.000 I almost said that, but I decided I shouldn't say it.

00:42:16.000 Ha ha ha.

00:42:20.000 Ha ha. 0.98

00:42:22.000 Oh, he's, he's, oh, God, he's so awful. 0.99

00:42:26.000 He's truly so awful.

00:42:28.000 It is amazing that he was a two-term president in the United States, but, you know, it was under Barack Obama that the country really started to come apart.

00:42:34.000 In any case, the Biden-Harris-Walls campaign, it's all one big blob at this point.

00:42:39.000 They continue to fail on every front, and everyone can see that they continue to fail on every front.

00:42:45.000 It is amazing how Joe Biden, who's currently president of the United States, is looking for someone else to blame on the lackluster performance by FEMA in the face of two separate hurricanes.

00:42:54.000 So Joe Biden is now out there saying that Donald Trump is un-American for how he's talking about Joe Biden's efforts on hurricane relief, which is weird because I remember the entire Democratic Party suggesting that George W. Bush was a vicious racist during Hurricane Katrina.

00:43:08.000 We're providing now to make sure people have the emergency relief they need, the dollars just to be able to get a prescription filled, to get a baby formula done.

00:43:16.000 All the things, that $750 that they're talking about, that Mr.

00:43:21.000 Trump and all those other people know, it's a lie to suggest that's all they're going to get.

00:43:26.000 That's bizarre.

00:43:28.000 It's bizarre. They've got to stop this.

00:43:31.000 I mean, they're being so damn un-American with the way they're talking about this stuff.

00:43:35.000 But there's going to be a need for significant amounts of money.

00:43:38.000 We're already underway at trying to calculate what the cost will be because we don't want to mislead anybody.

00:43:43.000 We want to make sure all the costs are able to be covered.

00:43:47.000 I don't want to hear about people calling each other an American from this guy.

00:43:50.000 This guy who stood in front of Independence Hall and suggested that all of his political opponents were dire threats to the exact fabric of the United States.

00:43:56.000 Incredible. Then, of course, Joe Biden suggested that the reasons for lack of funding by FEMA, with all due speed, that's because Congress needs to allocate more money.

00:44:07.000 On FEMA funding, how much time does Congress have to act before FEMA or the SBA run out of money?

00:44:16.000 That's in discussion now.

00:44:17.000 I don't want to mislead you.

00:44:19.000 I think in terms of the SBA, it's pretty right at the edge right now.

00:44:25.000 And I think the Congress should be coming back and moving on emergency needs immediately.

00:44:31.000 And they're going to have to come back after the election as well.

00:44:34.000 Because this is going to be a long haul for total rebuilding.

00:44:38.000 It's going to take several billion dollars.

00:44:40.000 It's not going to be a matter of just a little bit.

00:44:44.000 Okay, so apparently he needs more money, right?

00:44:46.000 Only one problem. He doesn't, actually.

00:44:48.000 It turns out that there's still about $11 billion in FEMA disaster funding that has been allocated.

00:44:53.000 According to Politico, it was the Congress of the United States just last month that actually allocated $20.3 billion for FEMA relief.

00:45:03.000 Okay, FEMA has now spent about $9 billion of that.

00:45:07.000 Well, I mean...

00:45:09.000 That leaves, by my calculation, you know, like $11 billion you guys have not allocated yet.

00:45:14.000 That's a lot of money. So you might want to allocate that now.

00:45:17.000 Congress can come back in two weeks and refill the fund.

00:45:19.000 That's what Speaker Johnson is saying, and he's correct.

00:45:21.000 Was it a mistake to leave and adjourn the Congress for the campaign trail without addressing more disaster relief funding given the circumstances that we now find ourselves in?

00:45:35.000 Well, the fact is I think many people have not fully understood is that we did address it and we did appropriate 20 billion additional dollars to FEMA with early drawdown authority.

00:45:45.000 So they're sitting on a giant pile of cash and they haven't used it yet.

00:45:53.000 He is right about that, of course.

00:45:56.000 Meanwhile, Kamala Harris keeps trying to claim credit for some reason for this hurricane. 0.99

00:46:00.000 She keeps trying to insert herself in the process.

00:46:02.000 And Ron DeSantis in Florida, he keeps saying, you have nothing to do with anything.

00:46:05.000 Why are you even like, what do you have to do with anything?

00:46:07.000 What are you doing here? The fact of the matter is they put out a story saying I didn't take, I didn't even know she was trying to reach me, but she has no role in this process.

00:46:17.000 And I've been dealing with these storms in Florida under both Trump and Biden.

00:46:22.000 Neither of them ever politicized it.

00:46:24.000 And in fact, all the storms I've dealt with under this administration, although I've worked well with the president, She has never called in Florida.

00:46:32.000 She has never offered any support.

00:46:34.000 So what she's doing is she's trying to inject herself into this because of her political campaign. 1.00

00:46:42.000 Of course, he is right about all that.

00:46:44.000 And amazingly, it is not working.

00:46:45.000 It is not working. Mainly because she's really bad at this. 1.00

00:46:48.000 And so is Joe Biden. So is this entire administration.

00:46:50.000 The thrill is gone.

00:46:52.000 Folks, obviously, election season is heating up.

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00:47:33.000 Philip, thanks so much for joining the show.

00:47:34.000 Really appreciate it. Thank you for having me.

00:47:38.000 So let's talk about the upcoming election.

00:47:42.000 Obviously, if Kamala Harris and Tim Walz were to win their economic plan, it looks like it would lead to a certain level of economic stagnation for a certain.

00:47:50.000 What do we actually know about their economic plan?

00:47:51.000 She's been pretty vague on them. She certainly has, and I think it's been by design.

00:47:57.000 She's mostly been talking in vague abstractions about making the economy fair while floating trial balloons her focus groups have come up with.

00:48:06.000 So it is hard to pin down any cogent policy.

00:48:09.000 We only know, I think, a handful of things.

00:48:12.000 It means more taxes and a whole lot more spending.

00:48:17.000 So, Philip, you know, when you look at that spending, what exactly are Kamala Harris's fiscal priorities?

00:48:23.000 I mean, if we keep spending this way, what are the natural sort of impacts of that?

00:48:27.000 The reality is, from what we can see, her proposal is Bidenomics 2.0.

00:48:32.000 Literally, she's promising to spend $2 for every dollar Biden wanted to spend.

00:48:37.000 We're talking, you know, Biden wanted a $25,000 in down payment assistance for first generation.

00:48:43.000 Homebuyers, Camilla wants it for first generation or for homebuyers full stop first time. 0.80

00:48:49.000 Biden proposed a $20 billion fund for affordable housing.

00:48:53.000 Camilla wants a $40 billion fund.

00:48:56.000 So in fact, it's literally Bidenomics 2.0 as if the issue with Bidenomics

00:49:01.000 was that they didn't spend enough.

00:49:02.000 So my question is, why are we targeting successful households

00:49:07.000 rather than reigning in spending, right?

00:49:10.000 If we're talking about the tax increases that she's proposed, they would generate about $900 billion over the next 10 years. 0.87

00:49:18.000 Debt service payments this year alone are going to cost $950 billion.

00:49:23.000 So I think they're stepping over dollars to pickpocket cents, and I don't think it's going to work.

00:49:30.000 Philip, that's a great point, and it's a point that really I think people need to take into account.

00:49:33.000 When Kamala Harris is talking about increasing taxes so as to supposedly lower deficits, the reality is that if you actually were interested in lowering deficits or lowering the national debt, the kind of taxes she's talking about simply would not even make a dent in the kinds of deficit and debt that she's talking about.

00:49:49.000 So what you're really doing is you are pursuing policies that are likely to lead to less economic growth, more economic stagnation, and they're not even going to solve the problem of government revenue.

00:49:58.000 It's exactly right.

00:49:59.000 And the tax cuts and all the tax increases themselves come with consequences.

00:50:03.000 The Tax Foundation said that they would reduce economic output by 2% and could cost a million jobs.

00:50:09.000 So the elephant in the room is why are we not addressing the absurd spending?

00:50:14.000 That's why we're in the position we are.

00:50:17.000 So, Philip, you know, obviously I've made clear I'm a big backer of the Trump Vance ticket.

00:50:22.000 But if Donald Trump and Katie Vance take the White House in November, what is the economic outlook there?

00:50:27.000 Look, it's a different proposition.

00:50:28.000 I'd say we're not out of the woods.

00:50:30.000 We've got to remember Biden had added as much to the nation's debt in four years as Obama did in eight.

00:50:38.000 But it's a better policy.

00:50:40.000 Broadly speaking, they want to create a business-friendly environment.

00:50:43.000 They want to cut taxes on corporations and not raise income or capital gains.

00:50:48.000 One central aspect and obviously a controversial one is tariffs.

00:50:52.000 20% tariff on all imported goods, 60% tariff on goods from China.

00:50:57.000 Long term, I think these policies are a good idea.

00:51:00.000 It's a strategy to revitalize our manufacturing base, to incentivize the purchase of high-quality American-made products.

00:51:08.000 But there's no way around it.

00:51:09.000 It does mean, I think, higher prices up front, right?

00:51:13.000 You know, every Target, every Walmart sells goods made in China.

00:51:16.000 But for me, it's about longer-term prospects, you know, shorter-term pain for longer-term gain.

00:51:22.000 And I don't think we've had a president willing to do that since Reagan.

00:51:26.000 So, you know, we've got a tough storm to weather no matter what.

00:51:30.000 But I think Trump and Vance will set us up for a brighter future for sure.

00:51:36.000 I'm talking with Philip Patrick, Precious Metal Specialist, Birch Gold Group.

00:51:39.000 So one of the things that's been happening is that global central banks have been buying record quantities of gold.

00:51:44.000 They obviously are not feeling particularly sanguine about the future of growth because what they're looking at, and I think what everybody's looking at, is if you can't pay off this debt, there's only one way out of that, really.

00:51:53.000 You're not going to be able to tax your way out of that.

00:51:54.000 You're just going to have to inflate.

00:51:55.000 I mean, that's the only way to essentially pay down a debt is to inflate your dollar.

00:52:00.000 As you say, the debt servicing on the American national debt right now, that's going to outpace, it already outpaces our military budget every year.

00:52:07.000 And it's only going to grow from here.

00:52:09.000 Yeah, it's absolutely correct.

00:52:12.000 It's unsustainable. And by pushing massive spending, we're showing the world that, you know, we're not valuing our US dollar.

00:52:20.000 If I'm a central bank around the world holding dollars, watching the US spending money like it's going out of fashion, it starts to become a problem.

00:52:28.000 And central banks have been hedging dollar exposure using gold.

00:52:31.000 For the last two and a half years, they've set records for gold purchasing.

00:52:36.000 So central banks around the world are betting against the dollar for the reason that you mentioned.

00:52:41.000 I think there's only one way out of this if we continue down the path of spending.

00:52:46.000 So I think precious metals are important for institutions to hedge dollar exposure, but I think important for individuals as well.

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00:53:08.000 Philip, thanks so much for the time. Really appreciate the insight.

00:53:10.000 Thank you. All right, folks, coming up, we're going to jump into the latest economic report.

00:53:15.000 Harris-Walls, they say they're actually winning on economics.

00:53:17.000 Is that true? We'll get to that in a moment.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - October 11, 2024

This Worldview Is TOTALLY EVIL…And It’s Now Mainstream

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