The Ben Shapiro Show - November 02, 2023


Time To Cut Off Your Own Head To Prevent Community Tension

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multiculturalism failure genocide assessment
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Ben Shapiro
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Lindsey Graham John Nicholas Cruz Khaled Mashal Abby Phillip Abu Marzouk Benkei Putin Wolf Blitzer Combating Anti-Semitism Ministry Cullimore Chemist Craig Mulhibur Bernie Sanders Waleed Shaheed Raeed Hamad Ian Bremmer Christopher Wray Joe Biden Joy Reid Kamas and 1 more
Hamas’ Fifth Column The Islamophobia Lie

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London police remove posters with photos of hostages taken by Hamas, a man is arrested for posting a video criticising them, and Palestinian flags are put up in the middle of pro-Hamas rallies in the streets of London. What does this say about the state of relations between the West and Hamas? And why are they arresting a man who wonders why there are so many Palestinian flags around London streets? What is the difference between pro-British and pro-American pro-Palestinian protesters? Is there any difference between the two? Or is there only a difference between them? And what does it mean for the rest of the world that there is no such thing as a Palestinian flag in the UK? And why is it that the British police don t take them down? Why are they not worried about community tension, and why is there no evidence that they are trying to reduce tensions in a community where pro-Palestine flags are plastered all over the streets in support of the terrorist organisation Hamas? The answer to these questions may surprise you, and surprise you even more than you expected. It's not about the flags, it's about the people who support Hamas. The problem isn't about the flag, the problem is that they don't care about the hostages, they care about Hamas they care more about the hostage situation, not about their own people, not their community and don't want to lower tensions in their community, not to be left-wingers who support them because they are a threat to their community. This is a reality, not the other way around They care about them, not just about their community . the problem they face, not their own community , not their own . and they don t care about themselves, but their community's so why not take them to jail for their community ? why do they care? Why not jail them? ? why not do they not care about what they should be held accountable for their support of Hamas ? and why they should not be allowed to have a voice in the peace process or are they should they be given a chance to speak out about it? or do they get the chance to join in on the protest what are they get a say in the conversation in fact to speak up about it ? or do they even care about it at all?

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00:00:00.000 This week, the Metropolitan Police in London were videotaped removing posters with pictures of hostages taken by Hamas.
00:00:06.000 The posters were being removed from Cullimore Chemist in Edgware.
00:00:10.000 The chemist's CEO, Hassan Khan, recently retweeted posts branding Israel and the IDF, quote, filthy animals and encouraging Iran and Hezbollah to attack Israel.
00:00:19.000 This naturally caused some properly earned angst.
00:00:22.000 After all, the removal of such posters has become the domain of anti-Semites across the world.
00:00:26.000 So what was the police's excuse for removing the posters?
00:00:29.000 They explained, quote, both people who reported the posters to us were concerned
00:00:33.000 that would escalate an already tense situation. Officers went to the shop and acting in good
00:00:37.000 faith, they removed the posters in an effort to prevent any such escalation. We do not wish to
00:00:41.000 limit the rights of anyone to protest or to raise awareness of the plight of those kidnapped and the
00:00:45.000 terrible impact on their families.
00:00:47.000 But we do have a responsibility to take reasonable steps to stop issues escalating and to avoid any further increase in community tension.
00:00:55.000 Stop the escalation.
00:00:56.000 Prevent the community tension.
00:00:58.000 That's the important thing.
00:01:00.000 Yesterday, the Metropolitan Police reportedly arrested a man for posting a video criticizing people for putting up Palestinian flags around his neighborhood.
00:01:07.000 Here is the video. 0.97
00:01:09.000 And this is the kind of sh** that's going on. 0.97
00:01:11.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:01:12.000 So there's a... Look at this.
00:01:14.000 Yeah, you see it?
00:01:15.000 And then over here at this one... There's Palestinian flags just on flagpoles all around his neighborhood.
00:01:20.000 Yeah.
00:01:20.000 And then we come along to this pole here.
00:01:23.000 And they've done the same crap here as well. 0.98
00:01:26.000 Look at this. 0.99
00:01:28.000 See this?
00:01:29.000 This is what we're dealing with. 0.89
00:01:30.000 This is no f***ing one in any of this one here. 0.81
00:01:33.000 You see that? 0.86
00:01:34.000 Yeah.
00:01:35.000 Literally every flagpole, Palestinian flag. 0.95
00:01:40.000 So, this guy was then arrested.
00:01:41.000 So this guy was then arrested.
00:01:56.000 Here was the video of his arrest.
00:02:02.000 So, big deal!
00:02:02.000 I understand, okay. The reasons why we did this is on the 17th of the 10th of 2023 on
00:02:08.000 Bethnal Green Road at 10 of 4, you were the witnesses saying obviously, people, why are
00:02:14.000 they over here, etc. We let them into our country, etc. 1.00
00:02:17.000 So, big deal.
00:02:18.000 Yeah, okay.
00:02:19.000 So, big deal.
00:02:20.000 She's on the television.
00:02:21.000 Say that.
00:02:22.000 Can I say one time? 0.99
00:02:24.000 Disgusting! 1.00
00:02:25.000 He's a disgusting! 1.00
00:02:26.000 I'm a stage 4 cancer patient and I need a beer! 1.00
00:02:30.000 Make a scene!
00:02:31.000 You're arresting him because he said something that was right about Hamas! 1.00
00:02:34.000 A terrorist organisation!
00:02:35.000 You haven't been round the block.
00:02:37.000 You don't know what you're talking about.
00:02:38.000 John, have a cup of tea.
00:02:39.000 Did you hear that?
00:02:40.000 You haven't been round the block. I don't know what you're talking about.
00:02:43.000 John, have a cross for him.
00:02:44.000 Did you hear that?
00:02:45.000 What?
00:02:46.000 All those Palestinian flags on Bethnal Green Road. 1.00
00:02:49.000 They're disgusting, absolutely disgusting. 1.00
00:02:51.000 They're terrorists. 1.00
00:02:53.000 John, John. 1.00
00:02:55.000 They're terrorists. 1.00
00:02:57.000 They're terrorists. 0.99
00:02:59.000 They arrested him for saying, why are these people in our country? 0.78
00:03:03.000 Meaning people who are posting Palestinian flags in the middle of giant rallies for Hamas.
00:03:08.000 Now the police did not remove the Palestinian flags.
00:03:11.000 You know, for the sake of community tension.
00:03:13.000 In the current moment, those flags are clearly meant to support Hamas.
00:03:16.000 After all, there were no rallies with Palestinian flags prior to October 7th happening in Great Britain.
00:03:21.000 If there were a true separation in cause between the so-called pro-Palestinian protesters we see on the streets and the pro-Hamas protesters, one might imagine that pro-Palestinian protesters would call for Hamas's ouster and surrender, so as to make way for a peace process.
00:03:35.000 Not one moment of that has materialized.
00:03:38.000 None at all.
00:03:39.000 Zero zip zilch.
00:03:40.000 But the British police didn't touch the flags in the name of relieving community tension or anything.
00:03:44.000 Instead, they arrested the man who wondered why Britain would import the kinds of people who would post Palestinian flags on street poles while Hamas is holding human babies hostage.
00:03:54.000 Remember, the tensions must be reduced.
00:03:56.000 Now, there are two ways to reduce tension in a community.
00:03:59.000 The first is to cave to those who are the most radical and the most dangerous.
00:04:02.000 In this case, the Hamas supporters.
00:04:04.000 Criminalize anyone who would ask just why a community in the West should be expected to contain people who support Hamas.
00:04:09.000 Take them to jail for asking that question on tape.
00:04:13.000 And the second way to lower community tensions is to recognize that those very people who defend Hamas are a danger to your community.
00:04:19.000 That the problem isn't community quiescence, but the constituency of the community itself.
00:04:23.000 That there cannot be community with people who root for Hamas.
00:04:27.000 This should be obvious, but it isn't.
00:04:29.000 It isn't because the West simply refuses to look reality in the face.
00:04:32.000 Better to arrest people who speak that reality than to look reality in the face.
00:04:37.000 Because reality is ugly.
00:04:38.000 And reality is unpleasant.
00:04:39.000 And reality might require you to recognize that the importation of millions of people who hate the West was an awful, terrible idea and that means should be taken to reverse that process.
00:04:50.000 And so instead, a way has to be found to pretend away the threat.
00:04:54.000 Blame it on Israel.
00:04:55.000 Jabber about the two-state solution.
00:04:56.000 Talk about Islamophobia.
00:04:58.000 Whatever you do, do not look the realities of multiculturalism's dramatic failure directly in the face.
00:05:03.000 Don't do it.
00:05:04.000 This of course plays directly into the hands of Hamas. 0.88
00:05:08.000 They now understand that they can say and do literally anything and that much of the West will cover for them in order to maintain the fiction that multiculturalism works.
00:05:16.000 They don't even bother to hide the ball. 1.00
00:05:18.000 They know that you are stupid and or weak. 1.00
00:05:20.000 They'll say it directly out to your face. 1.00
00:05:22.000 They understand that you will just pretend they didn't say it.
00:05:24.000 That you will pretend to misunderstand them.
00:05:26.000 That you will, in fact, grant credibility to people who cheer for them in the streets.
00:05:30.000 Here is Hamas official Ghazi Hamad speaking just one week ago on Lebanese TV, calling for attacks on Jewish civilians until Israel is extirpated.
00:05:37.000 He says we'll repeat October 7th over and over and over.
00:05:41.000 He says, Israel is a country that has no place on our land.
00:05:44.000 We must remove that country, because it constitutes a security, military, and political catastrophe to the Arab and Islamic nation and must be finished. 1.00
00:05:53.000 We are not ashamed to say this with full force.
00:05:55.000 We must teach Israel a lesson, and we will do this again and again.
00:05:57.000 The Al-Aqsa flood is just the first time.
00:06:00.000 There will be a second, a third, a fourth, because we have the determination, the resolve, the capabilities to fight.
00:06:06.000 Well, we have to pay a price, yes, and we are ready to pay it.
00:06:08.000 We are called a nation of martyrs, and we are proud to sacrifice martyrs.
00:06:14.000 We did not want to harm civilians.
00:06:15.000 That's a lie, obviously.
00:06:17.000 But there were complications on the ground.
00:06:20.000 And there was a party in the area with a civilian population.
00:06:24.000 It was a large area across 40 kilometers.
00:06:30.000 The occupation must come to an end.
00:06:32.000 Occupation?
00:06:32.000 We're in the Gaza Strip?
00:06:33.000 No, I'm talking about all the Palestinian lands.
00:06:35.000 Does that mean the annihilation of Israel?
00:06:38.000 Yes.
00:06:38.000 Yes, of course.
00:06:39.000 The existence of Israel is illogical. 0.99
00:06:41.000 The existence of Israel is what causes all that pain, blood, and tears. 1.00
00:06:45.000 It is Israel, not us. 0.91
00:06:46.000 We are the victims of the occupation.
00:06:48.000 Period.
00:06:49.000 They murder 1,400 Jews. 0.99
00:06:51.000 They burn babies in ovens. 0.98
00:06:53.000 And then they tell you that they want to do it again and again and again.
00:06:56.000 Operation Al-Aqsa flood is the name of what they did.
00:06:59.000 That is literally the name of what they did.
00:07:02.000 And they're saying they wanna do it over and over and over again.
00:07:04.000 And by the way, there are polls showing that there's wide and broad support for this in Muslim countries across the world.
00:07:12.000 Pretending that you can import a bunch of people who agree with Hamas, and this is not somehow going to have some impact on your community, is simply insane.
00:07:20.000 It's totally crazy.
00:07:21.000 In every available way, it's totally, totally nuts.
00:07:24.000 So for example, there's a recent poll showing one in three in Lebanon currently favor war with Israel, The poll found broad support for the Hamas terror operation called Operation Al-Aqsa Flood.
00:07:38.000 Of the 400 individuals polled in Lebanon, 80% supported what Hamas did.
00:07:43.000 80% in Lebanon.
00:07:48.000 And by the way, if you look in other countries, very similar numbers.
00:07:52.000 The group pushing to condemn Israel is comprised of 97% of Shiite respondents, 84% of Sunni respondents,
00:07:57.000 55% of Christian Lebanese respondents, and 75% of Druze respondents.
00:08:01.000 Okay, in just one second, we'll get to more of Hamas just saying it all out loud because
00:08:06.000 they know that you won't look them in the face.
00:08:08.000 They know it.
00:08:09.000 They know that you will just ignore what they did on October 7th. 0.99
00:08:11.000 They will ignore what they say they are going to do in the future, including kill you and your children. 0.93
00:08:15.000 You will ignore it because it's uncomfortable. 0.96
00:08:17.000 Better that if somebody says it, we arrest that guy.
00:08:19.000 We have to arrest that guy for the sake of community peace.
00:08:22.000 We'll get to that momentarily.
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00:09:20.000 Again, Hamas will say it right to your face. 1.00
00:09:23.000 They'll say it right to your face because they know that you're weak or stupid. 1.00
00:09:26.000 Here was Hamas official, Abu Marzouk, telling RT that Hamas has no interest in protecting civilians. 0.99
00:09:31.000 So while the entire West catterwalls about Israel and what Israel is doing to the horrible crimes they're committing against Palestinian civilians, the literal governing power is saying they have no interest in protecting their civilians.
00:09:42.000 And in fact, they want their own civilians to die.
00:09:43.000 Here is, again, a member of Hamas explaining, Abu Marzouk, saying this.
00:09:49.000 A reporter says, many people are asking, since you have built 500 kilometers of tunnels, why haven't you built bomb shelters, where civilians can hide during bombardment?
00:10:01.000 He says, we have built the tunnels because we have no other way of protecting ourselves from being targeted and killed.
00:10:09.000 These tunnels are meant to protect us from the airplanes.
00:10:15.000 We are fighting from inside the tunnels.
00:10:20.000 Everybody knows that 75% of the people in the Gaza Strip are refugees, and it is the responsibility of the United Nations to protect them.
00:10:30.000 According to the Geneva Conventions, it's the responsibility of the occupation to provide them with all services, as long as they are under occupation.
00:10:39.000 They say it all out loud, on camera, over and over and over again.
00:10:43.000 They don't stop saying it.
00:10:44.000 They shout it from the rooftops.
00:10:46.000 But the West will not look Hamas in the face. 0.86
00:10:48.000 Because if it did, it might have to look Hamas' supporters in the face. 0.56
00:10:52.000 And while Hamas is in Gaza, Hamas supporters are everywhere.
00:10:56.000 They work in our stores.
00:10:57.000 They go to our schools.
00:10:58.000 They staff our press and our academic institutions.
00:11:01.000 That's too ugly and it's too frightening, so we have to look away.
00:11:04.000 In the name of relieving community tension, of course, this is how the West dies.
00:11:08.000 By looking away.
00:11:09.000 By refusing to acknowledge reality.
00:11:12.000 All that community tension?
00:11:14.000 There are two ways it can go away, as I said.
00:11:15.000 One is that you silence everybody in the name of a lie, and the other is that you maybe look at the forces that are tearing away at the community.
00:11:23.000 We won't do the latter, and so we'll end up doing the former.
00:11:26.000 And again, the people who are standing for Hamas, the people who are actively rooting for Hamas, I don't know how else to say the members of the media are doing as they are.
00:11:33.000 They are rooting for Israel to lose to a terrorist group that beheads Thai workers and then calls Dad to explain how amazing it is what they're doing.
00:11:44.000 It's all over the world.
00:11:45.000 I mean, here's a top UN official yesterday.
00:11:47.000 This top UN official, his name is Craig Mulhibur.
00:11:49.000 He resigned from the UN.
00:11:51.000 And he told CNN, he was asked, did Hamas attempt genocide?
00:11:55.000 He refuses to answer the question.
00:11:56.000 Because of course, if he answers the question, you might notice.
00:11:59.000 And so he's going to refuse to answer the question.
00:12:02.000 How do you arrive at the assessment, based on the UN Convention, definition of genocide, that Israel is carrying out a genocide right now?
00:12:13.000 Well, you're right.
00:12:13.000 That's based upon a UN Convention, the Binding International Legal Treaty, that defines what genocide is, what its elements are.
00:12:21.000 And we know that genocide is a term that is often politicized, it's often misused, it's often used as just a charge of abuse by one side or the other.
00:12:30.000 killing on a large scale, expulsions, creating conditions that are determined to bring about
00:12:37.000 effectively the destruction of a population, in this case the population in Gaza.
00:12:41.000 All of these have been very well documented and add up to the crime of genocide.
00:12:47.000 Israel continues to say it is going after Hamas.
00:12:49.000 It is Hamas that is keeping its civilians where it is. 0.96
00:12:52.000 It is using them, innocent Palestinians, as human shields. 0.52
00:12:57.000 Why label that genocide?
00:12:59.000 Of course we've seen these.
00:13:01.000 Yeah, we've seen these claims before repeatedly by the Israeli authorities in previous large-scale attacks on civilian populations.
00:13:08.000 First, claiming self-defense under international law gives no state the right to commit the kinds of atrocities that it is carrying out now.
00:13:16.000 Again, it's never Hamas' fault.
00:13:17.000 It's never Hamas' fault.
00:13:18.000 They're just going to obscure it.
00:13:19.000 They're just going to say that Israel is at fault because, again, if you notice that one of these groups, Hamas, is an actual evil genocidal Jew-hating organization and they say it out loud and they brag about using human shields, well, then it might change your opinion.
00:13:31.000 But we're not allowed to change our opinions on these things because that might have some consequences for the rest of the West.
00:13:37.000 And so the entire left has come around to this.
00:13:38.000 Here's a former Bernie Sanders spokesperson, Waleed Shaheed, explaining this is Israel's fault.
00:13:43.000 Of course, of course.
00:13:46.000 We have a government and a partner in Israel that has never empowered the Palestinian leadership in the West Bank to actually reach a settlement, a final status settlement, about what to do with the two-state solution.
00:13:57.000 We actually have a far-right Israeli government that opposes And so the United States must use its diplomatic and
00:14:06.000 financial leverage with our ally, the ally we fund militarily, to put pressure on them to empower the secular authorities
00:14:15.000 in the West Bank who have been the leadership of the Palestinian people,
00:14:19.000 but have never been empowered to actually be at the same table and negotiate in recent years with the Israelis.
00:14:25.000 Oh, is Israel's fault that they're not empowering the Palestinians to make peace by what?
00:14:30.000 Deposing the Palestinian Authority and putting in place a moderate Palestinian? 1.00
00:14:34.000 Which he would then complain about as an act of apartheid and genocide and all the rest of it?
00:14:39.000 It's ridiculous, but this is HUGE segments of our media, it's HUGE segments of academia, and it's HUGE segments of people in positions of authority.
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00:15:51.000 Okay, so, our media are full-scale on the side of Hamas. 0.61
00:15:54.000 I mean, I don't know how else to put it.
00:15:55.000 They want Israel to lose.
00:15:56.000 So, over the last couple of days, Israel had to hit a target in Jabalia, which is a quote-unquote refugee camp. 0.98
00:16:02.000 I always say quote-unquote because people don't understand what a refugee camp is.
00:16:05.000 They think that a refugee camp in the Middle East looks like how you would consider it, like a bunch of FEMA trailers by a river somewhere that just flooded.
00:16:12.000 That is not what is happening in the Gaza Strip.
00:16:14.000 These are full-scale cities that have been there for 50 years with giant buildings.
00:16:19.000 They are called by the international community refugee camps to maintain the false claim that people living in Jabalia somehow have a right to live in Haifa, which is absolute sheer nonsense. 0.96
00:16:27.000 It's ridiculous.
00:16:27.000 There has never been a situation in human history where a country, a sovereign country, is forced to open its own borders to people who are outside those borders.
00:16:36.000 That is not a thing that happens in international law ever.
00:16:40.000 Seriously, name a time this has ever happened in human history.
00:16:42.000 It doesn't work that way.
00:16:44.000 But, put that aside.
00:16:46.000 So Israel hits this target inside the Jabalia refugee camp.
00:16:52.000 It's a military target.
00:16:53.000 How do you know it's a military target?
00:16:54.000 Because the ground underneath it collapses.
00:16:57.000 You know what doesn't tend to happen very often if you hit a building from above and there's nothing underneath it?
00:17:01.000 You don't tend to get a giant sinkhole.
00:17:03.000 You know why there was a giant sinkhole?
00:17:04.000 Because of secondary explosions and because tunnels underneath it collapsed.
00:17:08.000 And so a bunch of Hamasniks, a bunch of Hamas members, were killed because they were underneath there, including top commanders in Hamas.
00:17:15.000 The rest of the world saw pictures, though, of a boom.
00:17:18.000 A boom went.
00:17:18.000 There was a big boom.
00:17:20.000 And people were killed in the big boom.
00:17:22.000 It doesn't matter that Israel has distributed, at this point, tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of leaflets above Gaza telling people, get the hell out of the area where you are. 0.69
00:17:31.000 It's a military area and we're going to have to hit it.
00:17:33.000 Kamas told people to stay, including many young men.
00:17:36.000 They told them to stay so they could be used as human shields.
00:17:39.000 That's the entire point.
00:17:40.000 And so the media immediately rushed.
00:17:41.000 They were so eager.
00:17:42.000 They're so eager.
00:17:43.000 They'd set up the entire predicate for this.
00:17:45.000 I've been talking about this for weeks at this point, that they were setting up the predicate for when Israel did what it had to do, claiming that Israel is now the offending party.
00:17:52.000 The predicate was multi-pronged.
00:17:54.000 So one thing they would say is they'd say, well, we have to warn Israel.
00:17:56.000 We have to warn them to use human, you know, Joe Biden was saying this.
00:17:59.000 We need to warn Israel. 1.00
00:18:00.000 They have to be very careful about civilian lives.
00:18:02.000 We've warned them to be very careful.
00:18:03.000 Israel is more careful about civilian lives than the United States.
00:18:06.000 End of story.
00:18:07.000 Israel has sacrificed far more of its lives proportionally of its soldiers in order to go house to house than the United States did in places like Iraq or Afghanistan.
00:18:16.000 Which is why there are hundreds of thousands of dead civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan.
00:18:20.000 But, put that aside.
00:18:23.000 The IDF really, really doesn't matter.
00:18:25.000 Point number one, propagandistic point number one is, if it weren't for the West tugging on Israel's coattails, telling them not to murder the children, then they would be in there just opening heads and bashing children in the head, willy-nilly. 0.63
00:18:35.000 Now again, that's nonsensical.
00:18:37.000 Israel has complete air superiority. 0.72
00:18:39.000 There is no air force for Hamas, thank God. 1.00
00:18:42.000 If Israel wanted to eviscerate the entire area and kill two million people, it has the power to do that. 0.92
00:18:46.000 It is not doing that because that would be terrible and immoral and Israel isn't going to do that.
00:18:50.000 So part one of the lie was, we have to tell Israel not to violate human rights, because if we don't tell them, then they certainly will. 0.91
00:18:55.000 And then part two was, well, you know, it might be disproportionate if Israel hits a military target and there are some civilians there, that's not what disproportionate means.
00:19:04.000 Disproportionate doesn't mean that Israel somehow has to measure the proportion between the number of Israeli dead and the number of Gazan dead.
00:19:10.000 That's not how that works.
00:19:11.000 If that were the way that worked, then the allies were morally wrong in World War II, because way more Germans died than Brits died in World War II.
00:19:19.000 What proportionality means is, is the end sought proportional to the means taken?
00:19:24.000 So if you have a giant Hamas headquarters and it's underneath a civilian area, is it proportionate to hit that when they're literally aiming rockets at you from that area?
00:19:32.000 And the answer is clearly yes.
00:19:34.000 But the media pretend they don't know this stuff. 0.96
00:19:36.000 Now, either they're unbelievably ignorant of the rules of war, the laws of war, and how war works, or they are liars. 0.91
00:19:40.000 There is no third choice. 1.00
00:19:42.000 They're either ignorant or they are liars. 1.00
00:19:45.000 I think they're liars. 1.00
00:19:46.000 I think a lot of them are liars. 1.00
00:19:47.000 I think they certainly know better. 0.98
00:19:50.000 And they're avoiding the knowing better.
00:19:52.000 Because to do so might offend.
00:19:53.000 It might offend.
00:19:54.000 You don't want to offend all the radicals out there who agree with Hamas.
00:19:58.000 And so you have to pretend to moral equivalence because that moral equivalence is your warm bath, man.
00:20:01.000 It's lukewarm and it's really dirty, but it is a warm bath.
00:20:05.000 Whereas if you have to take a side, you might be left out in the cold by somebody.
00:20:08.000 We'll get to the media's response to the Jabalia bombing in just one second.
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00:21:06.000 the media responded to the bombing of a Hamas military target in Jabalia that Israel warned
00:21:11.000 people repeatedly to get out of the way of.
00:21:13.000 So Ian Bremmer, who's been on the show.
00:21:16.000 I like Ian.
00:21:17.000 Nice guy.
00:21:18.000 He is so unbelievably wrong here.
00:21:19.000 I'm going to attribute this to ignorance because again, I think Ian's a nice person, but I don't understand what the hell he's talking about.
00:21:24.000 The blast hits, he tweets out, this is a war crime, period.
00:21:27.000 No, the war crime is when you hide your military targets underneath civilians.
00:21:31.000 That is an actual war crime. 0.79
00:21:33.000 Under the Geneva Conventions, a target is transformed into a military target when it is military and you hide it beneath a civilian area.
00:21:41.000 You can't protect yourself that way.
00:21:42.000 In fact, if it were the contrary, every military on earth would hide beneath civilians.
00:21:46.000 I mean, imagine the logic here.
00:21:47.000 It's absolutely insane. 0.57
00:21:48.000 The logic that's being used here is that if Hamas were to go and murder a bunch of Israeli civilians and then go out into a field somewhere, then Israel can go willy-nilly whole hog on them.
00:21:57.000 But if they commit the double atrocity of murdering a bunch of Israeli civilians and then hiding beneath their own civilians, now they're immune. 0.66
00:22:04.000 Now they're immune, they're magically immune.
00:22:06.000 What do you think that incentivizes?
00:22:07.000 That incentivizes everyone to hide behind civilians.
00:22:10.000 If the way you gain defensive immunity is by hiding behind women and children, then every single terrorist is going to hide behind women and children.
00:22:17.000 Which is precisely the reverse of the so-called laws of war. 0.99
00:22:20.000 The entire purpose of the laws of war for those who are not complete f***s. 1.00
00:22:22.000 f**king morons is to get military members in military uniform away from civilians. 1.00
00:22:27.000 If you generate an entire incentive structure that tells people to get out of uniform and 1.00
00:22:31.000 among civilians, what do you think you are doing? You're incentivizing that behavior, of course.
00:22:35.000 Members of the media, again, I have to assume that they're not complete morons, but maybe they are. 0.98
00:22:41.000 You know you're not in a good situation. 1.00
00:22:42.000 When they catch 22, the better moral solution is that the members of the media are so f***ing stupid that they don't understand this stuff, as opposed to they're unbelievably immoral and evil. 1.00
00:22:54.000 And here's the New York Times, Nicholas Kristof, who's been garbage on this as well, joining Joy Reid. 1.00
00:23:00.000 Who is perfectly comfortable with many anti-Semites on MSNBC. 0.71
00:23:04.000 And his take is, the real problem here is that Israel's bombing is radicalizing people.
00:23:07.000 You know, they weren't radicalized before over there in Gazastan.
00:23:10.000 You know, under the tutelage of Hamas. 0.84
00:23:11.000 They weren't radicalized.
00:23:12.000 They were a bunch of nice Western people.
00:23:14.000 But now Israel bombing them, that's what's really radicalizing them.
00:23:17.000 Okay, thank you for that magical catch-22 you've now created. 0.80
00:23:20.000 So either Israel gets to defend itself and its citizens by, you know, killing the people who are aiming rockets at it.
00:23:26.000 And keeping 233 people underground and also just murdered 1,500 of their citizens. 0.99
00:23:31.000 Or they can presumably just wait to die. 0.91
00:23:34.000 They can wait to die so as not to offend.
00:23:36.000 Here's Nicholas Kristof urging solution 2. 0.73
00:23:38.000 Wait to die so as not to offend people.
00:23:40.000 You wouldn't want people who hate Israel to hate Israel even more. 0.76
00:23:43.000 You certainly wouldn't want that.
00:23:44.000 That would be bad.
00:23:45.000 You wouldn't want to radicalize a radical population so radical they elected Hamas. 0.78
00:23:50.000 Just the fear of undergoing this constant bombardment and not knowing if you're next has been completely staggering.
00:23:57.000 I think that it's also radicalized the West Bank.
00:24:03.000 One of the things that I worry about is that there will be mass unrest in the West Bank as all people are talking about is what's happening in Gaza.
00:24:13.000 And there is also a widespread conviction among people in the West Bank that the explosion at the hospital that was not only caused by Israel, but in fact was a deliberate strike on a hospital by Israel.
00:24:31.000 My best guess is that it was probably a Islamic Jihad rocket that went astray, but that's not the perception in the West Bank.
00:24:39.000 Oh, well, that's not the perception in the West Bank.
00:24:40.000 So, I mean, even, they'll never forgive Israel for not hitting that hospital because that would have provided them with their favorite talking point, obviously. 0.87
00:24:46.000 I love that.
00:24:46.000 So, Nicholas Kristof even ends that segment by being, they're being radicalized by things Israel didn't even do!
00:24:51.000 So, Israel should stop doing the things that it's doing. 0.97
00:24:54.000 And also, Israel should definitely stop doing the things it's not doing. 0.87
00:24:58.000 Which things is Israel allowed to do then? 0.78
00:25:00.000 They can't do the things that they are doing and they can't do the things that they're not doing.
00:25:03.000 So...
00:25:04.000 But again, all that is is excuse making.
00:25:06.000 It's excuse making. 0.87
00:25:07.000 You just... People seem to not mind very much when Jews just absorb death. 0.99
00:25:12.000 That's when Jews... I've seen so many tweets over the last several weeks going, although the world opinion is turning against the Jews now, it's really turning against... If they retaliate, the world opinion turns against the Jews. 0.69
00:25:22.000 Guess what?
00:25:22.000 If I have a choice between breathing and defending myself, I'm going to keep breathing.
00:25:26.000 I'm addicted to it.
00:25:27.000 I'm not going to stop doing it for your viewing pleasure.
00:25:29.000 I'm not going to commit suicide in order so that you feel better about yourself. 0.96
00:25:34.000 It's absurd. 0.98
00:25:35.000 But here's Wolf Blitzer doing the same disgusting routine on CNN.
00:25:40.000 A senior Hamas official that it claims was the leader in the October 7th terrorist attack against Israel.
00:25:47.000 We don't yet know how many civilians were killed in today's strike on that refugee camp, but is taking out one Hamas leader or maybe two Hamas leaders who may have been there worth the debts of so many civilians?
00:26:03.000 Well, I support Israel's effort to defend itself.
00:26:06.000 It has not just the right to defend itself, but the responsibility toward its citizens and its sovereignty in the face of a brutal, horrific attack that took place on October 7th.
00:26:18.000 And for the good of Israel, for the good of the region, for the good of America, the free world, and for the good of the Palestinian people in Gaza, we need to make sure that Hamas is defeated.
00:26:31.000 Okay, that is the right answer by Hakeem Jeffries, but Wolf Blitz are doing the... They took out two Hamas commanders.
00:26:36.000 Can that justify... Let me be clear.
00:26:39.000 Israel right now, by doing this, they know that there are hostages down there.
00:26:44.000 They know that there are hostages down there.
00:26:46.000 You know who could end this immediately?
00:26:47.000 Hamas by surrendering.
00:26:48.000 I don't see anyone calling for Hamas to surrender.
00:26:51.000 No one in the media is calling for Hamas to surrender.
00:26:53.000 None of them.
00:26:54.000 The same people who are weeping crocodile tears over the situation in Gaza refuse to actually Engage in the one conversation that would actually force Hamas to surrender, which is, Hamas, you have two choices.
00:27:05.000 You can either be completely destroyed or you can surrender.
00:27:08.000 I swear, if these members of the media had been completely dominant during World War II, there's no way that the Allies could have won the war.
00:27:14.000 Not one way in hell the Allies could have won the war.
00:27:17.000 Every act the Allies took would have been second-guessed.
00:27:19.000 Everything that the Allies did in order to win that war would have been treated as a human rights violation, and the Germans certainly would have won. 0.99
00:27:25.000 This is... The media are disgusting. 0.90
00:27:27.000 I mean, truly gross. 0.94
00:27:31.000 Meanwhile, this of course is translating into some public opinion now.
00:27:34.000 Some of this public opinion is being manufactured.
00:27:37.000 There is a liberal group, a progressive policy and polling organization called Data for Progress.
00:27:42.000 And they ask the following question to Americans, quote, the U.S.
00:27:45.000 should call for a ceasefire and de-escalation of violence in Gaza.
00:27:47.000 The U.S.
00:27:48.000 should leverage its close diplomatic relationship with Israel to prevent further violence and civilian deaths.
00:27:53.000 Agree or disagree?
00:27:54.000 OK, well, I mean, if you're going to stack it that way, I agree.
00:27:57.000 Right.
00:27:57.000 I mean, if the idea of the ceasefire is that the ceasefire will stop all death, civilian violence will all end.
00:28:04.000 But of course, that's not the case.
00:28:06.000 We know that if there's a ceasefire, Hamas will grow stronger.
00:28:08.000 And then Hamas will do this again. 0.91
00:28:10.000 And then Hamas will put its own civilians in the line of fire again. 0.57
00:28:12.000 But when you phrase it that way, which is the media's entire phraseology, you remove all the context and you just say, bad things are happening.
00:28:19.000 Would you like the bad things to stop?
00:28:21.000 Yeah, I know much bad things, but you know what?
00:28:24.000 Sometimes you got to do the bad thing to prevent the worst thing, especially when the group already did the worst thing and they have pledged that they are going to do the worst thing again and again and again and again until there are no Jews left. 0.86
00:28:34.000 But the media have to do that. 0.83
00:28:35.000 They have to do that.
00:28:36.000 Because again, that allows them to live their favorite lie.
00:28:39.000 And that favorite lie is that in our magical, multicultural, Epcot center world, we are all the same.
00:28:45.000 The only thing that truly divides us is whether we like hummus or whether we like crepes.
00:28:49.000 That's the only thing that really divides us.
00:28:52.000 Whether we like borscht or whether we like falafel.
00:28:54.000 Otherwise, we are all the same.
00:28:57.000 We think the same things. 0.80
00:28:58.000 We can import hundreds of thousands of you into Western cultural centers while you scream for our deaths. 0.99
00:29:04.000 There was a video that was going around that was somewhat telling in terms of the cultural differentiation between certain areas of the world and other areas of the world. 0.94
00:29:10.000 And it showed the status of women in a variety of Muslim countries before the takeover by radical Muslims.
00:29:16.000 And it showed video of what Iranian women dressed like, for example, before the Shah fell.
00:29:21.000 They're dressed like Western women. 0.96
00:29:23.000 And look at them today.
00:29:24.000 And they're all stuffed into burqas. 0.98
00:29:26.000 Take a look at women in Afghanistan in the 1950s when the United States had a heavy presence in Afghanistan.
00:29:30.000 They're dressed like Western women today.
00:29:31.000 They're stuffed into burqas. 0.99
00:29:33.000 Pretending this cultural difference does not exist is insanity.
00:29:36.000 It's suicidal insanity.
00:29:38.000 Pretending that you can import one set of values into a completely different set of values that has no impact whatsoever.
00:29:44.000 And then maintaining that lie at the cost of the free speech of your own citizens is totally crazy.
00:29:48.000 But that is exactly what everybody has been engaged in.
00:29:51.000 And predictably, predictably, this is generating a new wave of antisemitism.
00:29:54.000 Of course, because why wouldn't it?
00:29:56.000 Because you're making effectively two separate claims.
00:29:58.000 One is that you are blind to the antisemitism of radical Islam.
00:30:01.000 It doesn't exist. 0.94
00:30:02.000 They're just like you.
00:30:04.000 Totally normal.
00:30:05.000 For the sake of community peace, we have to let them do what they're gonna do, and we have to take down the stuff that offends them, because they're just like us.
00:30:11.000 That is lie number one.
00:30:12.000 And lie number two is because you have to normalize Hamas and its supporters, you have to pretend that actually Israel brought this upon itself. 0.81
00:30:18.000 And if Israel brought this upon itself, that means Israel's the bad guy. 0.95
00:30:20.000 And if Israel's the bad guy, then everyone who supports Israel is the bad guy. 0.66
00:30:23.000 And you know who supports Israel? 0.66
00:30:24.000 The Jews. 0.64
00:30:25.000 That's... That is why anti-Semitism has spiked.
00:30:28.000 You cannot disconnect what the media are doing in terms of their assault and lies about the current conflict from the spike in antisemitism.
00:30:34.000 The media can't both lament the spike in antisemitism and simultaneously cause it, which is precisely what they are doing right now at this minute.
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00:32:34.000 Okay, meanwhile, I do want to give a shout out to Lindsey Graham. 0.97
00:32:36.000 So, Senator Graham has come in for some criticism on this show over time, but he was asked on CNN by Abby Phillip about civilian death in Gaza, and she asked what I believe to be an incredibly dumb question.
00:32:48.000 The dumb question is, is there a limit to the number of civilians dying in a conflict beyond which you're just not allowed to go?
00:32:56.000 And of course, the answer to this is no. 0.90
00:32:58.000 The answer to this is there is not an actual numerical limit.
00:33:01.000 The reason there's not an actual numerical limit, that we have rules of war, right?
00:33:04.000 Those rules of war that you're supposed to minimize civilian casualties.
00:33:07.000 But you can't have like a sliding scale in terms of human life, where if you kill 10,000 civilians, that's okay.
00:33:13.000 But if you kill 10,001 civilians, well, then we really have to tell you to call off the ducks. 0.99
00:33:17.000 The reason you can't have that, particularly in this context, is because if you articulate such a limit, what do you think Hamas's incentive structure is? 0.98
00:33:23.000 Hamas's incentive structure is then to kill 10,001 civilians, to put civilians all over the damn place. 0.88
00:33:29.000 If you say to them, listen, we'll kill 8,000 of your civilians, but you know, if we go any further than that, we're really going to have to stop. 0.99
00:33:37.000 Whose interest is it in for these civilians to die at that point? 0.82
00:33:41.000 The party trying to stop Israel from taking out Hamas or Hamas?
00:33:44.000 That's what Graham is saying right here. 0.97
00:33:45.000 He got a lot of crap for it, but he's totally right on this. 0.88
00:33:48.000 Is there a threshold for you and do you think there should be one for the United States government at which the U.S. 0.98
00:33:55.000 would say, Let's hold off for a second in terms of civilian casualties.
00:34:00.000 Is there a point at which you would start to question?
00:34:03.000 If somebody asked us after World War II, is there a limit what you would do to make sure that Japan and Germany don't conquer the world? 0.97
00:34:11.000 Is there any limit what Israel should do to the people who are trying to slaughter the Jews? 0.95
00:34:15.000 The answer is no.
00:34:16.000 There is no limit, but here's what you need to do.
00:34:18.000 Be smart.
00:34:19.000 Let's try to limit civilian casualties the best we can.
00:34:22.000 Let's put humanitarian aid in areas that protect the innocent.
00:34:26.000 I'm all for that.
00:34:27.000 So Graham is saying exactly the right thing, which is we should try to minimize civilian casualties, but I'm not going to put a number on this because that only benefits Hamas. 0.97
00:34:33.000 And meanwhile, Abby Phillip is there doing the, well, you know, I mean, there are a lot of people.
00:34:38.000 It is amazing. 0.99
00:34:39.000 Again, ignorant or terrible. 0.99
00:34:41.000 Those are the only two choices. 0.95
00:34:42.000 All this I say is fomenting anti-Semitism and unsurprisingly, we are seeing a radical increase in anti-Semitism, which is kind of an amazing thing. 1.00
00:34:48.000 It really is.
00:34:49.000 I mean, what we are watching right now is the worst attack on Jews since the Holocaust.
00:34:54.000 And in the wake of that, more attacks on Jews.
00:34:58.000 Now in the West, I can't imagine many other groups to which this applies. 0.94
00:35:01.000 Let's say that there were white supremacist attack on a black church. 0.99
00:35:05.000 The immediate response from everybody would be, white supremacists are awful, people who sympathize with them are awful, and we have no tolerance for people committing what the federal government would call hate crimes against black people. 1.00
00:35:15.000 First of all, you don't even need a shooting for that. 0.99
00:35:17.000 All you need is a viral video for that. 0.99
00:35:20.000 But when it comes to the Jews, oddly enough, a bunch of Jews get killed and the rest of the world is like, seems like it's the Jews' fault and we should probably harm them. 0.98
00:35:28.000 Maybe that's because the media are driving a narrative that it's the Jews' fault and maybe it's okay to harm them. 0.80
00:35:33.000 That's what happens when you actively mobilize in favor of a group that seeks to harm Jews, accomplishes that, and then claims immunity.
00:35:42.000 Unsurprisingly, anti-Semitic incidents across the globe have spiked.
00:35:47.000 According to the Jerusalem Post, a shocking surge in anti-Semitic incidents, including an astonishing 1,180% increase in anti-Semitic discourse, has swept across the globe during the ongoing Swords of Iron War, according to a comprehensive report released by Israel's national institutions and government.
00:36:02.000 The report is a joint effort of the Diaspora Affairs and Combating Anti-Semitism Ministry, the World Zionist Organization, and the Jewish Agency.
00:36:09.000 The report detailed an alarming almost 12-fold increase in anti-Semitic discourse that includes calls for violence against Israel, Zionists, and Jews.
00:36:15.000 Almost all of it is in Arabic, 71%, and English, 28%.
00:36:22.000 One in three of the anti-Semitic events are in the United States.
00:36:26.000 There's been a 330% increase in violent anti-Semitic incidents.
00:36:32.000 71% originated from Arab and Islamic groups online.
00:36:36.000 Not a giant shock in any of those statistics.
00:36:38.000 And Chris Wray, the head of the FBI, he's saying the same.
00:36:41.000 He says Hamas' success is going to cause violence here at home. 0.73
00:36:45.000 Since the horrific terrorist attacks committed by Hamas against innocent people in Israel a few weeks ago, we've been working around the clock to support our partners there and to protect Americans here at home.
00:36:59.000 We assess that the actions of Hamas and its allies will serve as an inspiration the likes of which we haven't seen since ISIS launched its so-called caliphate several years ago. 0.99
00:37:12.000 In just the past few weeks, multiple foreign terrorist organizations have called for attacks against Americans and the West.
00:37:22.000 I mean, he's right about that, of course, but you know what's a factor that is cutting very much in favor of that?
00:37:27.000 Is when the entire legacy media rush to the defense of Hamas.
00:37:31.000 And you are, if you're calling on Israel to stop the killing of Hamas terrorists right now.
00:37:36.000 I don't know who that benefits other than Hamas. 0.97
00:37:38.000 That is literally their goal.
00:37:40.000 Here's the FBI director saying that anti-Semitism is reaching record levels.
00:37:43.000 Well, yeah, obviously.
00:37:45.000 I will say that this is a threat that is reaching, in some ways, sort of historic levels.
00:37:52.000 In part because, as you know all too well, the Jewish community is targeted by terrorists really across the spectrum.
00:38:00.000 Homegrown violent extremists, foreign terrorist organizations, both Sunni and Shia, domestic violent extremists.
00:38:08.000 And in fact, our statistics would indicate that for a group that represents only about 2.4% of the American public, they account for something like 60% of all religious-based hate crimes.
00:38:21.000 Well, I mean, I wonder why that would be.
00:38:23.000 I mean, it couldn't be anything systemic, could it?
00:38:25.000 At all?
00:38:25.000 You hear about systemic racism law.
00:38:27.000 Could it be anything about the systemic anti-Semitism of the media that constantly finds excuses to blame open hatred of Jews and, in fact, the murder of Jews on other causes?
00:38:37.000 Meanwhile, at our universities, things continue to be fun and games.
00:38:39.000 A pro-Hamas mob was bullying a Jewish student at Harvard.
00:38:41.000 So here's what that looked like.
00:38:45.000 You can see here there's a Jewish student.
00:38:46.000 The pro-Hamas mob surrounds the Jewish student and starts pushing him around. 0.90
00:38:51.000 So suffice it to say that if this were a bunch of white supremacist students 0.72
00:39:00.000 surrounding a black student in doing this, this would be the front page story in every major newspaper 0.99
00:39:04.000 for a year.
00:39:05.000 The entire Democratic Party would run on the systemic racism of the American people.
00:39:10.000 This is happening.
00:39:11.000 This kind of stuff is happening dozens of times a day across the United States right now on major university campuses.
00:39:16.000 And, um... I guess it's just stuff that happens, man.
00:39:19.000 I guess that's just the way that it goes.
00:39:21.000 Meanwhile, over in France, things are going even better.
00:39:23.000 A French woman had her house spray-painted with Jewish stars, which is not evocative at all of, you know, like, the Holocaust or anything.
00:39:31.000 She says, again, as an old woman, she says, this is the hatred I saw as a child.
00:39:41.000 And I don't understand.
00:39:42.000 You can see in the background, her house has been spray-painted with stars of David.
00:39:48.000 Now again, one of the reasons for the wild growth of the anti-Semitism is also because it's being spurred by social media. 0.96
00:39:52.000 So TikTok, which is a garbage outlet that ought to be banned.
00:39:56.000 TikTok, the views of pro-Palestine posts are far outweighing the views of pro-Israel posts according to Axios.
00:40:08.000 So, if you look at the period, October 16th through 23, you see that they're kind of even.
00:40:14.000 Hashtag StandWithPalestine, hashtag StandWithIsrael, kind of even in terms of the number of views.
00:40:20.000 And then, if you fast forward one week, TikTok changes their algorithm, obviously, and the StandWithPalestine hashtag is now getting 285 million views, compared with 64 million for StandWithIsrael.
00:40:33.000 Globally, there have been 210,000 posts using the hashtag StandWithPalestine and 17,000 using the hashtag StandWithIsrael since October 16th.
00:40:43.000 TikTok is not just a proxy for understanding how many Muslims there are around the world who are using it.
00:40:47.000 It's also because, again, TikTok is owned by the government of China.
00:40:51.000 And the government of China has been actively oriented in Hamas' favor.
00:40:55.000 Meanwhile, Russia is orienting in Hamas' favor as well.
00:40:57.000 This has been true for literally years.
00:41:00.000 As the Moscow Times reports, in the case of Hamas, Moscow has long cozied up to the group, declining to designate it as a terrorist organization, even after the October 7th attacks, and making clear it is loathe to sever contact with Hamas.
00:41:11.000 In doing so, Russia provides Hamas with a terrorist's most coveted, legitimating effect of recognition.
00:41:17.000 In 2007, Putin hosted Hamas's then leader Khaled Mashal in Moscow and received praise from Mashal for his courage and manliness.
00:41:24.000 Putin was thanked again by Hamas after the October 7th attacks, this time for his quote, position regarding the ongoing Zionist aggression against our people.
00:41:31.000 So yeah, there are a lot of reasons that anti-Semitism is rising pretty dramatically.
00:41:36.000 Alrighty guys, the rest of the show is continuing right now.
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