The Ben Shapiro Show - June 15, 2026


Trump Declares End To War, WTH Is Going On?


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00:00:00.000 President Trump says we have a deal with Iran, an amazing deal for us and our allies. 0.96
00:00:04.000 The Iranians say they have a deal with the United States, the worst possible deal for us and our allies. 0.86
00:00:09.000 So, you know who doesn't have the deal?
00:00:11.000 Any of us.
00:00:12.000 We don't have the words, we don't have the text, we have lots of stories.
00:00:15.000 But I'm not about to take anybody's word for it when clearly there is no solid information to look at at all.
00:00:20.000 So, today, we are going to break everything down what we know and what we don't, and where this all goes next.
00:00:25.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.
00:00:33.000 So, as I have been saying for months at this point, war is a simple calculus.
00:00:38.000 It is about which side can take more pain.
00:00:40.000 That's it.
00:00:41.000 So, if I can take more pain than you, I win.
00:00:45.000 Even if you win on an absolute level, like you inflict more pain on me on an absolute level than I inflict on you, that doesn't matter.
00:00:53.000 You don't actually win until the other side has experienced pain beyond what they are willing to bear.
00:00:58.000 If the other side is willing to undergo the pain of having all of his limbs lopped off, and you're only willing to undergo the pain of a hangnail, The other side must only inflict minor pain in order to win.
00:01:09.000 You must inflict massive pain. 0.89
00:01:11.000 And this was always the imbalance between the United States and Iran. 0.64
00:01:15.000 In this whole deal, the United States had to lop off all the arms, all the legs, eviscerate the leadership, make it so that Iran could not rise again in order to achieve what we want in a deal.
00:01:26.000 Iran, in order to exert pressure on us, basically had to fire some drones and missiles at shipping in the Strait of Hormuz and at some oil fields. 0.69
00:01:33.000 Okay, so let's start with this.
00:01:35.000 What would a good long term deal look like?
00:01:36.000 First of all, let's point out nothing that's going on right now is just the news.
00:01:40.000 Nothing that is going on right now is a long term deal.
00:01:42.000 What we have right now is what is called a memorandum of understanding, supposedly.
00:01:46.000 It is a 60 day memorandum of understanding, which is basically kicking the can down the road because none of the major issues get solved in this memorandum of understanding.
00:01:55.000 But let's talk about what a great deal would look like for the United States. 0.81
00:02:00.000 And again, I am skeptical that the Iranians would give this up absent some sort of major regime change or the belief that they were on the verge of it. 0.83
00:02:07.000 So, what would a great deal, long term deal, look like with Iran? 0.55
00:02:11.000 This is not my list, this is the administration's list.
00:02:14.000 No nuclear weapons or development or facilities.
00:02:17.000 No ballistic missile development.
00:02:19.000 No funding of terror apparatus abroad.
00:02:22.000 Opening the Strait of Hormuz permanently without tolls.
00:02:25.000 And then, theoretically, when all of those have been verified, we could talk about opening up the economy.
00:02:30.000 That's what a good deal would look like for the United States. 0.54
00:02:32.000 So, what would a bad deal look like, meaning a good deal for Iran? 0.75
00:02:36.000 First, continuation of nuclear development.
00:02:39.000 Even if it's pushed off, even if it's slower, maintenance of nuclear facilities, capacity to keep nuclear material in the country.
00:02:46.000 Second, ballistic missile development revitalized.
00:02:49.000 No sanctions on ballistic missile development.
00:02:51.000 Money flowing into the country that could be used for additional ballistic missile development, which would create that umbrella of defense and offense that would prevent action to get rid of their nukes. 0.68
00:03:02.000 Third, continued funding of terrorism abroad, a rebuilding of the terror apparatus that Iran had prior to October 7th.
00:03:09.000 Hamas in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank, Hezbollah in Lebanon, the Houthis in Yemen, terrorist groups in Iraq. 0.93
00:03:18.000 If they got more money coming in and they could continue to fund terrorism, that would be a win for them. 0.97
00:03:22.000 Continued Iran control over the Strait, the Strait of Hormuz basically being told by Iran, and the tacit threat that anytime things went wrong, Iran could shut down the world economy again. 0.99
00:03:32.000 And again, the biggest one lots more funding going into Iran. 0.81
00:03:36.000 Because remember, the situation before this war is that Iran was basically on its last economic legs.
00:03:42.000 The Iranian rial had spiked from 42,000 per American dollar to 1 million per American dollar.
00:03:48.000 That was before the war.
00:03:49.000 Their economy.
00:03:50.000 Was falling apart. 0.91
00:03:51.000 That's why you had these gigantic riots in the streets, these gigantic protests in the streets, which ended with the Iranians shooting some 42,000 people in a weekend. 1.00
00:03:59.000 So, if a bunch more money goes into Iran, that is a win for Iran. 0.99
00:04:02.000 Okay, so that's the long term standard. 0.98
00:04:04.000 And again, I'm setting the standards up front so we know what we're talking about, because one of the things that I don't like when we talk about good deal, bad deal is being vague about what we are saying.
00:04:12.000 Again, just to reiterate the five conditions for a good deal for the United States no nukes, no ballistic missile development, no funding of terrorism abroad, opening the strait permanently without tolling, and then theoretically opening up the economy. 0.98
00:04:25.000 The best deal for the Iranians would look like continued nuclear development, even covert nuclear development, which would mean maintenance of their nuclear facilities in country, all supposed watering of nuclear material to be done in Iran, them continuing to cheat and hide. 0.92
00:04:40.000 Second, ballistic missile development. 0.99
00:04:42.000 Third, funding of terrorism abroad.
00:04:43.000 Fourth, continued control over the Strait.
00:04:46.000 And fifth, more funding going into Iran while all of that was happening.
00:04:49.000 Okay, that would be the terms of a permanent deal, good and bad.
00:04:52.000 So, what we have here again, what we have, this is just.
00:04:56.000 What the Trump administration is saying, what Iran is saying, is not a deal.
00:04:59.000 It is a memorandum of understanding.
00:05:02.000 It is a temporary agreement.
00:05:03.000 All right, coming up, we'll ask what a good temporary agreement, what a good memo of understanding would look like here versus a bad one versus a mediocre one.
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00:06:15.000 So, what would a good temporary agreement look like for the United States?
00:06:19.000 Well, a really good one.
00:06:20.000 There are basically three options here there's good, there's mediocre, and there's bad.
00:06:23.000 So, let's start with a good temporary agreement.
00:06:25.000 What would that look like?
00:06:27.000 Well, it would look like anything that facilitated a good permanent agreement.
00:06:32.000 Okay, so whatever got us toward the goal of no nukes, no ballistics, no funding of terrorism, and opening the strait permanently.
00:06:39.000 That would be a good temporary deal. 0.93
00:06:42.000 A mediocre temporary deal would ensure that Iran doesn't get any of the things that it wants long term, but it wouldn't achieve all the good stuff. 0.75
00:06:51.000 So it wouldn't disarm them of nuclear weapons, for example, or ballistic missiles, but it would not release a bunch of money to them. 0.74
00:06:57.000 It might temporarily open up the strait a little bit.
00:07:00.000 It might release a small amount of money to them, and then we would go home, but we would leave the sanctions on, which is the most important thing not opening the Iranian economy, not allowing them to, in name or otherwise, tie their activity to terrorist groups in the region. 0.78
00:07:14.000 Not allowing them to rebuild their ballistic missile facilities with our money. 0.74
00:07:19.000 That would be a mediocre deal.
00:07:20.000 A mediocre deal would basically be us packing up our stuff and going home.
00:07:23.000 That would be a mediocre deal.
00:07:24.000 Why mediocre and not great? 0.97
00:07:26.000 Well, because we've already done an enormous amount of damage to Iran's facilities. 0.99
00:07:30.000 We've already set them back tremendously. 0.97
00:07:33.000 If we go home right now, then Iran will maintain some vestigial control over the strait. 0.97
00:07:38.000 It'll largely open because China wants it open. 0.97
00:07:42.000 You won't achieve all the things you want to achieve.
00:07:44.000 It won't permanently get rid of the Iranian nuclear program. 0.78
00:07:46.000 It won't totally destroy their ballistic missile capacity.
00:07:50.000 It won't change the regime, obviously. 0.63
00:07:53.000 It won't prevent their funding of terrorism, but at least it wouldn't do their work for them.
00:07:57.000 So, what would a bad temporary agreement look like?
00:07:59.000 What would a bad 60 day deal look like?
00:08:01.000 Well, it would basically not only leave their nuclear development intact, it would incentivize their nuclear development.
00:08:07.000 It would allow them to use more money for the ballistic missiles. 0.81
00:08:10.000 It would allow them to extend their terrorism reach. 0.86
00:08:14.000 And it would allow full scale continued Iranian control over the strait. 0.90
00:08:17.000 That would be a bad temporary agreement. 0.86
00:08:19.000 It would facilitate the elements of a bad deal.
00:08:20.000 So, which is it?
00:08:22.000 We don't know.
00:08:23.000 We literally do not know because the administration has not and will not release the text right now, which they should.
00:08:30.000 They should.
00:08:31.000 Because here's my deal I'm happy to analyze a deal once I know what's in it.
00:08:35.000 I cannot analyze a deal for or against until I know what the hell is in the deal.
00:08:40.000 You don't know what a good deal looks like just because one side is saying good and the other side is saying bad.
00:08:45.000 Right now, we have two sides telling two very, very different stories.
00:08:49.000 You have President Trump saying he got a good temporary agreement, and JD Vance saying it's a brilliant temporary agreement.
00:08:54.000 You have Iran saying it's a very, very bad temporary agreement.
00:08:58.000 My hunch is that basically the temporary agreement doesn't do much at all.
00:09:02.000 That basically the temporary agreement is the mediocre scenario that we leave, that they get a little bit of cash to open up the Strait of Hormuz, not enough to really revitalize their economy.
00:09:11.000 The sanctions remain on them.
00:09:13.000 We never get to any further negotiation on a nuclear weapons deal. 0.61
00:09:16.000 We never get to any further negotiation on ballistics or terrorism, and they don't get fully reintegrated into the world economy.
00:09:22.000 If that's the end of the war, if what the end of the war is, is this basically goes with a whimper, not a bang.
00:09:28.000 That essentially were like, you know what, we did enough, we're out.
00:09:31.000 That would still be a strategic win for the United States. 0.90
00:09:34.000 It would not be the bad temporary agreement, which makes the United States an advocate for Iran's bad policy.
00:09:40.000 But we don't know because we don't have the text of the deal.
00:09:43.000 So here is how it all went down.
00:09:46.000 On Sunday afternoon, the Pakistani Prime Minister Shabazz Sharif put out a statement.
00:09:53.000 Now, again, I should point out here I'm highly, highly, highly suspicious of a deal where Pakistan, Qatar, and Iran are happy.
00:10:01.000 I'm very suspicious of such a deal. 0.91
00:10:03.000 Pakistan is a Chinese cutout and an open ally with Iran. 0.97
00:10:08.000 So, treating them as though they are an American ally is foolhardy.
00:10:11.000 In any case, Shabazz Sharif says, Following intensive talks, we are pleased to announce that the peace deal between the United States of America and Islamic Republic of Iran has been reached.
00:10:19.000 Both sides have declared the immediate and permanent termination of military operations on all fronts, including in Lebanon.
00:10:23.000 Okay, so let's start with this.
00:10:24.000 That's a lie.
00:10:25.000 It's not true.
00:10:26.000 Okay, because the United States and Iran cannot declare an end to hostilities in Lebanon.
00:10:34.000 Why?
00:10:34.000 Well, because Hezbollah is a terrorist group that is operating within the purview of the Lebanese government.
00:10:44.000 Meanwhile, Israel is going to have to respond to terrorism across its border.
00:10:48.000 As we'll see, if the United States is going to suddenly become an advocate for the idea that Israel can't defend itself, then this is a giant L for the United States and for our allies.
00:10:58.000 In any case, Sharif says the official signing ceremony will be on Friday, 19th of June, in Switzerland.
00:11:03.000 And what we are learning right now is that that would, in fact, include the Iranian parliamentary leader, Mohammed Khalib, of an IRGC.
00:11:10.000 Stand in and the vice president JD Vance.
00:11:13.000 I think that's a horrible idea.
00:11:14.000 If you want to sign some sort of temporary ceasefire, do it via docu sign and be done.
00:11:18.000 The idea of a gigantic photo op with the leader of the Iranian parliament, who is a stand in for the IRGC, is in fact a visual slap in the face to the tens of thousands of Iranians who died at the hands of Khalibaf's friends.
00:11:34.000 And not only that, it ties the Trump administration to whatever is the future of the Iranian regime.
00:11:40.000 We didn't even do this with Delcy Rodriguez.
00:11:43.000 Who's actually working with us? 1.00
00:11:44.000 The Iranians are not working with us. 0.88
00:11:46.000 The idea of deploying the vice president of the United States to do a handshake with an actual terror leader is a horrible idea. 0.55
00:11:54.000 If you're going to do some sort of temporary deal and it's mediocre, fine.
00:11:57.000 Just do a docu sign and be done. 0.90
00:11:58.000 But the idea of a full scale celebratory photo op, all that does is re enshrine in the minds of the administration that they now have to pretend that the Iranians are reasonable and good and that anything they do is not a betrayal of the deal, which of course the Iranians will violate any deal. 0.95
00:12:12.000 They have violated every deal. 0.94
00:12:14.000 There's not a deal the Iranians have ever signed they've not violated.
00:12:17.000 Sharif, the Prime Minister of Pakistan, says, We would like to thank the United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran for their commitment to finding a diplomatic solution to the conflict.
00:12:25.000 We would also like to extend our sincere appreciation to our brothers in this mediation effort, the great leadership of the state of Qatar.
00:12:31.000 There we go.
00:12:33.000 Qatar, the Iranian cutout, for their support in reaching this agreement. 0.97
00:12:35.000 Who else? 0.86
00:12:36.000 Well, the visionary leadership of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, which has played both sides, and the Republic of Turkey, which is, in fact, a gigantic terror support network, for their immense contributions in this regard.
00:12:46.000 With the agreement now in place, mediators will facilitate a series of meetings this week.
00:12:50.000 These pre implementation discussions will lay the foundation for the technical talks and the official signing ceremony.
00:12:55.000 So, again, we are still very, very far from a quote unquote complete deal.
00:12:59.000 But the president seems to be treating it like a deal is complete, which, again, is not the case.
00:13:04.000 The president put out his own statement.
00:13:07.000 And here's what he said The deal with the Islamic Republic of Iran is now complete.
00:13:10.000 Congratulations to all. 0.68
00:13:12.000 Again, it's a ceasefire, basically.
00:13:13.000 It's a continuation of the ceasefire.
00:13:15.000 He says, I hereby fully authorize the toll free opening of the Strait of Hormuz.
00:13:19.000 That is not what the Iranians are saying, by the way.
00:13:21.000 And simultaneous herewith, authorize the immediate removal of the United States naval blockade.
00:13:25.000 Ships of the world start your engines.
00:13:26.000 Let the oil flow.
00:13:28.000 President Trump.
00:13:28.000 Okay, I mean, I hope that's true.
00:13:31.000 We'll find out.
00:13:32.000 The president then said the strait will open upon the signing.
00:13:34.000 He said this great deal will bring peace and security to the whole region.
00:13:37.000 Many presidents have tried to make peace with Iran and all have failed before me.
00:13:40.000 The leaders of the region have, for the first time, found a president who can help them achieve real peace.
00:13:43.000 With the opening of the strait upon the signing of the deal on Friday, for purposes of mine removal, oil will flow on both ends again for the region and the world.
00:13:51.000 Okay, well, again, we'll find out.
00:13:52.000 So I would be a lot more comfortable if I knew what the hell is in the deal.
00:13:56.000 Because we are hearing very, very different stories from both sides here.
00:14:00.000 And we do, and I'm going to emphasize it again.
00:14:03.000 I'm not saying it's a bad deal.
00:14:04.000 I'm not saying it's a good deal.
00:14:06.000 I suspect it's a mediocre deal.
00:14:07.000 I don't know.
00:14:08.000 I don't have the text.
00:14:09.000 Once I have the text, you will have the text.
00:14:11.000 And then we can all read it together.
00:14:13.000 And I'm a big fan of such transparency.
00:14:15.000 You know, when we are attempting to sign an agreement with the world's largest sponsor of state terrorism, responsible for the death of thousands of American troops across the region and the world. 0.87
00:14:23.000 All right, coming up, President Trump outlines the deal, but then the Iranians also outline the deal. 0.89
00:14:29.000 And let's just say they don't seem to agree on much. 0.97
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00:15:36.000 So, President Trump outlined the deal in an interview at the Wall Street Journal.
00:15:41.000 He said the deal would include an agreement from Iran not to obtain nuclear weapons and an immediate reopening of the Strait of Hormuz.
00:15:46.000 He also expressed no urgency to extract nuclear material from Iran, saying that could come later.
00:15:50.000 So, first of all, we should point out that is not what he was saying before.
00:15:53.000 The president said that any deal would amount to Iran having to turn over the so called nuclear dust.
00:15:57.000 So, apparently, that's not the case.
00:15:59.000 Asked about skepticism that the Iranians would actually agree.
00:16:02.000 Trump said he wanted the strikes to end and they wanted the war to end too.
00:16:05.000 I think they want to get it done.
00:16:05.000 This has never happened to them before, he said.
00:16:07.000 Trump said there would be strong inspections on the Iranians, but didn't specify how they would work.
00:16:11.000 He said Iran would not be provided cash in the deal, but sanctions could potentially be lifted.
00:16:15.000 Okay, so this is a problem.
00:16:18.000 Pallets of cash, sanctions being lifted, same thing, doesn't matter.
00:16:22.000 If the money flows into Iran, that is a bad deal. 0.76
00:16:25.000 And remember the elements of a bad deal money flowing into Iran as they continue to covertly pursue nukes and build up their ballistic missile facilities and fund terrorism, that would be a bad deal. 0.62
00:16:33.000 Now, the president is saying that all of that is contingent on how they behave. 0.87
00:16:39.000 We'll see.
00:16:41.000 Trump said, As far as regime change, I never cared about regime change.
00:16:46.000 This is the third group we've dealt with, this is the most rational group yet.
00:16:49.000 See, this is the problem.
00:16:49.000 I don't like this.
00:16:51.000 Hey, we should not be characterizing our opponents.
00:16:54.000 Either they will be rational or they will not be rational.
00:16:56.000 We do not have to characterize them as rational. 0.98
00:16:58.000 The reason I say this is because once you have invested in the lie that a bunch of millenarian psychotics who believe that they are going to take over the world on behalf of Shia Islam are a rational negotiating partner, you are already operating in the wrong frame of mind. 0.95
00:17:14.000 You have now invested yourself in whatever they say being true, which it almost certainly is not. 0.94
00:17:21.000 They lie all the time.
00:17:23.000 So, what actually is this?
00:17:24.000 The agreement paves the way for a 60 day period of negotiations over their nuclear program.
00:17:29.000 In exchange for curbs on the program, Iran expects access to billions of dollars of cash blocked abroad and an end to sanctions that have stifled its economy.
00:17:35.000 Okay, well, you know, we will see.
00:17:37.000 Okay, so President Trump immediately went on the PR defensive with the New York Times.
00:17:44.000 He said in an interview on Sunday afternoon the agreement he reached with Iran would ultimately assure that the Strait of Hormuz is permanently toll free.
00:17:50.000 That's not what the Iranians are saying, again. 0.62
00:17:52.000 I don't know whether he's saying what he thinks is true or whether they're saying what they think is true.
00:17:56.000 I don't have the text.
00:17:57.000 I don't know.
00:18:00.000 He says that he saved Israel from nuclear obliteration.
00:18:02.000 Well, again, that is far from clear at this point in time, obviously.
00:18:06.000 Trump also insisted that if Iran failed to reach a final nuclear accord with the United States, he would restart military attacks on Tehran or make the United States the guardian of the Middle East in return for 20% of the region's revenues.
00:18:16.000 The problem is you can't keep threatening this without doing it.
00:18:18.000 That is the really, really biggest problem in the Middle East.
00:18:21.000 You cannot issue empty threats and your bluff gets called over and over and over again. 0.98
00:18:26.000 And then you just keep saying it's not a big deal.
00:18:27.000 Ceasefires get violated and you say it's not a big deal.
00:18:30.000 If you blow your credibility, you have a problem in the Middle East. 0.55
00:18:33.000 And again, I'm not accusing the president of doing that, but if he keeps issuing threats and the Iranians keep violating the rules, and then he encourages our allies not to actually punish them for violations, that puts them in the catbird seat with these negotiations.
00:18:49.000 So Trump, while characterizing the Iranians as very reasonable, says that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is a very difficult guy.
00:18:57.000 Okay, I'm just going to be clear.
00:18:58.000 One of these countries has been flying sorties next to the United States.
00:19:02.000 And putting the lives of its own soldiers at risk next to the United States.
00:19:06.000 One of these countries has been trying to kill American soldiers.
00:19:10.000 So, probably we should, you know, be a little bit more measured in our critiques of our allies and a little bit more measured in our praise of our enemies.
00:19:22.000 According to the New York Times, Trump seems to be describing Iranian concessions the country has not yet made or that have been kicked to the follow up negotiations.
00:19:28.000 The Memorandum of Understanding, for example, only suspends tolls in the strait for 60 days and then promises a regional dialogue about the future.
00:19:35.000 Iran had never charged tolls before the war.
00:19:37.000 So basically, Trump is celebrating a return to the pre war status quo.
00:19:41.000 So, this is Trump's version of the deal.
00:19:43.000 His version of the deal is we're moving toward nuclear disarmament.
00:19:46.000 The Iranians are wonderful partners, that eventually we'll get a permanently toll free Strait of Formos, all the rest.
00:19:52.000 Okay.
00:19:53.000 Then there's what Iran is saying.
00:19:55.000 Here's what Iran is saying.
00:19:56.000 And this is one of the reasons I suspect that actually there's not very much in this memo of understanding, because when you have two sides to essentially a term sheet, and the term sheet says nothing, Both sides can then construe that they got everything from the term sheet.
00:20:10.000 So, according to Trump, he got everything.
00:20:12.000 According to Iran, they didn't just get everything.
00:20:14.000 They're basically the new global hegemon. 0.81
00:20:17.000 According to Iran, here is what's in the deal one, an immediate and permanent cessation of war on all fronts, including Lebanon. 0.89
00:20:23.000 Again, the idea here would be that Iran has forced the United States to tell Israel it can't defend itself.
00:20:28.000 Two, a U.S. commitment not to interfere in Iran's internal affairs and to respect the sovereignty of the Islamic Republic of Iran.
00:20:34.000 So we would have to basically swear that forever we'll never do anything that threatens the regime.
00:20:41.000 Three, the complete lifting of the maritime blockade within 30 days.
00:20:43.000 Four, A commitment of the United States to withdraw its forces from Iran's surrounding areas.
00:20:48.000 Well, I mean, Iran's surrounding areas include Qatar, UAE, Kuwait, Saudi.
00:20:57.000 Five, the reopening of the Strait of Hormuz within 30 days under arrangements determined by Iran.
00:21:01.000 Now, again, not toll free.
00:21:03.000 They get to determine how it goes according to Iran.
00:21:07.000 Six, the suspension of sanctions on the sale of oil, petrochemical products, and their derivatives, as well as full Iranian access to the resulting financial revenues.
00:21:14.000 So, no sanctions anymore. 0.67
00:21:17.000 Again, if Iran's characterization of this deal is correct, it is in fact a horrific deal. 0.98
00:21:22.000 If Trump's characterization of the deal is correct, it's a good deal.
00:21:25.000 The reality, there's probably nothing in the deal.
00:21:27.000 Number seven, a requirement for the United States and its allies to present reconstruction plans for Iran worth at least $300 billion.
00:21:34.000 They want us to rebuild everything that got blown up.
00:21:37.000 Eight, 60 days of negotiations to reach a final agreement focused on nuclear issues and the complete removal of all U.S. primary and secondary sanctions.
00:21:46.000 Nine, Iran's reaffirmation of its commitment under the Nuclear Non Proliferation Treaty not to produce nukes. 0.83
00:21:52.000 Oh, so they'll give us their word, is what they say. 0.83
00:21:54.000 In return for us relieving all sanctions on them and them having billions, hundreds of billions of dollars flowing into their coffers to spread terrorism, to build ballistic missiles, and to covertly build a nuclear program, they will give their very, very durable word that they will not produce nuclear weapons.
00:22:09.000 Point of fact, they have been a party to the Nuclear Non Proliferation Treaty since 1970, and they've been violating it since about that same time.
00:22:16.000 10.
00:22:17.000 During the negotiation period, the United States would commit not to increase its military forces in the region and not to impose any new sanctions.
00:22:24.000 11.
00:22:25.000 The release of $24 billion in frozen Iranian assets during the 60 day final negotiation period.
00:22:30.000 So immediately they get $24 billion.
00:22:32.000 I will point out that Barack Obama gave them $12 billion. 0.97
00:22:35.000 So if the Iranians had this right, it would be twice the amount that Obama gave them in the Palace of Cash. 0.80
00:22:41.000 Half of the amount, according to the Iranians, would be made available to Iran before the negotiations even begin.
00:22:48.000 12, the establishment of a monitoring mechanism to implement the agreement.
00:22:51.000 And 13, the final agreement would be endorsed by the UN Security Council, which would mean that now we would have to wait for the Russians and the Chinese to agree with us.
00:23:00.000 And as they say again, final negotiations would not begin before the release of half of Iran's frozen funds, the suspension of Iran's oil sanctions, and the lifting of the maritime blockade.
00:23:10.000 Discussions regarding Iran's missile program and its support for resistance groups would be definitively excluded from the agenda.
00:23:16.000 So that means that we would not negotiate over the missiles or over their support for terrorism.
00:23:21.000 All righty, coming up, we'll get into how this deal went down. 0.72
00:23:24.000 And also, we'll get to a very bizarre situation in which the United States could end up basically defending bad Iranian activity.
00:23:32.000 We'll get to all that in a moment. 0.90
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00:25:08.000 So here's the reason why there's a lot of confusion.
00:25:10.000 Trump and fans are saying everything is hunky dory. 0.97
00:25:15.000 The Iranians are saying for them, everything is hunky dory. 0.99
00:25:18.000 The reality we have no clue at all, zero clue at all. 0.99
00:25:24.000 And again, the Iranians are, they basically spent the weekend mocking Trump. 0.67
00:25:30.000 According to CNN, Iran's military force denied that Iran would sign an agreement with the United States on Sunday and criticized President Trump's unusual insistence on signing the agreement that day.
00:25:41.000 In a post on Telegram, the group suggested that Trump wanted to schedule the signing to coincide with his birthday.
00:25:47.000 So, JD Vance spent the weekend chastising critics of a deal that no one has seen.
00:25:52.000 Which, again, if the deal is great, I understand JD's invested in it.
00:25:56.000 I get it.
00:25:56.000 I get the vice president's invested in it.
00:25:57.000 He's been the lead negotiator.
00:25:59.000 So, he says, I'm seeing a lot of fake information about a potential deal to reopen the strait and end Iran's nuclear weapons program.
00:26:05.000 First, the Iranians are not receiving any cash and no funds are being released for simply signing a deal or attending a meeting.
00:26:11.000 Okay, that is not what the Iranians are saying.
00:26:14.000 The deal is structured to ensure that the United States and its allies are prioritized, and that if the Islamic Republic of Iran meets its obligations, economic benefits will flow to them in the entire region.
00:26:26.000 This deal has the potential to remake the region and lead to lasting peace. 0.60
00:26:30.000 Okay.
00:26:31.000 Then he says I've noticed a couple of bizarre things in the reporting over the last few hours.
00:26:34.000 First, people who rightly said Trump was a historic president a month ago now criticizing a deal based on unconfirmed media reports.
00:26:40.000 Well, I mean, you know, it's a great way to rebut unconfirmed media reports, releasing the text of the deal.
00:26:48.000 Turns out it's an amazing way to rebut those questions, actually.
00:26:53.000 And again, I do think that President Trump doing what he has done over the past several months was an act of political heroism.
00:26:59.000 I've said it dozens of times at this point.
00:27:01.000 I've also said that you don't know the end of a war until you know the end of a war.
00:27:07.000 A war can start off heroic and it can end ignominiously.
00:27:09.000 It can end horribly if you end a war badly.
00:27:14.000 I'm very proud of the president and what the military have achieved. 0.99
00:27:19.000 In destroying so much of Iran's forward capacity, it's amazing. 0.96
00:27:23.000 If you blow that in negotiation, that is bad.
00:27:27.000 He says, Second, people who say you can't trust a word said by the IRGC will apparently believe anonymously sourced social media posts.
00:27:33.000 The president is going to get us a good outcome one way or the other.
00:27:35.000 Well, I mean, we'll see if the outcome is good when we see if the outcome is good, just like anything else.
00:27:40.000 And as far as this idea, he says, People who say you can't trust a word said by the IRGC apparently believe anonymously sourced social media.
00:27:46.000 Here's my question Why do you trust the IRGC?
00:27:49.000 You are the one negotiating with the IRGC.
00:27:51.000 What makes you think they are going to keep their word?
00:27:53.000 What are your verification protocols?
00:27:55.000 What exactly are you asking of them?
00:27:57.000 What are the terms of the agreement?
00:27:58.000 Again, that's all I'm asking.
00:27:59.000 What are the terms of the agreement?
00:28:02.000 What are the terms of the agreement?
00:28:04.000 It's that simple.
00:28:07.000 JD Vance then suggested he went on CBS and he said that he and Trump, they're both skeptical of foreign entanglements.
00:28:15.000 You can use military force, but you know, now they're coming to the end.
00:28:19.000 Did you see yourself as someone who was forged by experience in the Marine Corps, served in uniform?
00:28:24.000 Were you more skeptical of a war in the Middle East, broadly speaking?
00:28:29.000 Well, I'd say, by the way, I think the president's like this too. 0.59
00:28:31.000 I think both of us are generally skeptical of foreign military entanglements.
00:28:36.000 And I certainly was formed by my time in the Marine Corps to be very skeptical of some of these entanglements.
00:28:41.000 But fundamentally, that doesn't mean you can never use military force. 0.95
00:28:44.000 And I think the goal here of preventing the Iranians from having a nuclear weapon, we're going to be successful at that goal. 0.93
00:28:50.000 And when we are, that's going to be a very good outcome for the American people. 0.99
00:28:54.000 You know, his mouth to God's ears.
00:28:56.000 But let's see the deal.
00:28:58.000 Let's see the deal.
00:29:00.000 Now, again, according to Reuters, E4 nations, including the UK, France, Germany, and Italy, said on Sunday the countries were prepared to lift sanctions on Iran.
00:29:07.000 In response to steps on its nuclear program after the US and Iran reached a deal to end their war.
00:29:12.000 Okay, so all of this came to a head a little bit over the weekend. 0.93
00:29:18.000 The reason it came to a head is because when you show the Iranians that you are more invested in a deal than they are, they will put the screws to you. 0.99
00:29:25.000 So here is what happened on Sunday. 0.95
00:29:28.000 So Iran realized that the president really wanted a deal.
00:29:32.000 And so what they did is they decided to use that desire for a deal in order to try to drive a wedge between the president and Israel.
00:29:40.000 That's what they were trying to do. 0.52
00:29:41.000 So they activated their terror group Hezbollah in Lebanon to attack into Israel. 0.53
00:29:45.000 Now, Israel had made clear over and over and over if there were drones that flew into Israeli territory, then Zakhia, which is an area of Beirut, which is where all the Hezbollah leadership lives, was going to get hit.
00:29:56.000 And so that was the math.
00:29:58.000 If Hezbollah hits inside Israel, Israel will hit inside Zakhia, which is in Beirut.
00:30:02.000 And the Iranians, you remember just last week, the Iranians fired a bunch of missiles at the Israelis.
00:30:08.000 And Israel had to respond.
00:30:09.000 And Trump at the time made what I thought was a signal mistake.
00:30:12.000 He suggested.
00:30:13.000 That Israel should basically hold back, that Israel shouldn't go, that it was just, you know, a ceasefire with a little less firing than usual, which is not how a ceasefire works.
00:30:22.000 What Iran was attempting to do with that whole game was to link its own action with its forward terrorist groups, to use Hezbollah as its forward army.
00:30:31.000 And the idea was that if you hit Hezbollah, then you are hitting Iran, and Iran can then respond to you.
00:30:36.000 And what Israel is saying is, we are not going to be held accountable for some deal with Iran over the Strait of Hormuz that doesn't allow us to protect ourselves, right? 0.55
00:30:44.000 That's what Israel is saying.
00:30:46.000 So, the goal for Iran was to get Trump so invested in the deal that Trump would get angry at Israel for defending itself.
00:30:54.000 And they basically came to the verge of that over the weekend.
00:30:57.000 So, Hezbollah targeted northern Israel, and Israel then struck a Hezbollah target in Beirut's southern suburbs on Sunday.
00:31:03.000 This particular Hezbollah target, by the way, was a Hezbollah commander who was responsible for the death of multiple Americans. 0.93
00:31:10.000 Okay, so the Iranians immediately set it up, right? 0.79
00:31:13.000 The Iranians initiated this because their goal, again, was to reestablish the idea that America would deter Israel. 0.85
00:31:20.000 From defending itself out of a desire for a deal with Iran.
00:31:22.000 So, Mohammed Khalaba, the person who is supposed to co sign an agreement with the vice presidents of the United States, put out a tweet.
00:31:29.000 And his tweet said, again, this is before the announcement of the deal.
00:31:35.000 He said, the Zionist incursion shows that America lacks the will to fulfill its commitments.
00:31:41.000 Okay, then the president put out a statement himself saying, This morning's attack on Beirut should not have happened. 0.85
00:31:47.000 So, again, the idea is that Israel is just supposed to accept rockets incoming over its border, targeting its citizens as well as drones, because Iran says so.
00:31:55.000 And the president says this morning's attack on Beirut should not have happened, particularly on a special day when we are so close to a peace deal with Iran. 0.58
00:32:01.000 Well, I will note that on that very special day, Hezbollah, which is an Iranian backed terror group, fired drones into Israeli sovereign territory.
00:32:09.000 He said Israel has the right to defend itself against threats, but the attack it was responding to was very small and meaningless.
00:32:13.000 Nobody was hurt, injured, or killed, and should not disrupt this important process.
00:32:18.000 I really don't think the president would see it that way if, say, Mexico had fired a bunch of drones into American soil and blown them up, and no one got killed.
00:32:27.000 I don't think it works that way.
00:32:28.000 I'm pretty sure it doesn't work that way.
00:32:30.000 That you're basically free.
00:32:33.000 We shouldn't spoil this very important day just because you fired a rocket at my house and you happened to hit my front lawn and not kill anybody.
00:32:41.000 He said, We are very close to a deal that will bring peace to the region, including to Lebanon.
00:32:46.000 And all sides should stand down.
00:32:47.000 All sides should stand down.
00:32:49.000 One of these sides is acting defensively.
00:32:50.000 One of them is a terrorist group responsible for the death of hundreds, if not thousands, of Americans.
00:32:56.000 He said, There should be no more attacks by Israel anywhere in Lebanon.
00:32:58.000 But there should also be no more attacks by any other party, including Hezbollah, against Israel.
00:33:02.000 This could be the beginning of a long and beautiful peace.
00:33:04.000 Let's not blow it.
00:33:06.000 Thank you for your attention to this matter.
00:33:07.000 I'm sorry, these are not kids fighting here.
00:33:09.000 You have a terrorist group that has expressed its desire to wipe Israel from the map, and you have an American ally flying sorties alongside American pilots, sharing technology and military largesse both ways.
00:33:21.000 And the idea is that that state is supposed to just go silent when it is attacked.
00:33:25.000 And then Trump went to Axios.
00:33:28.000 And again, this is just the kind of signaling that is not useful, it is not good.
00:33:31.000 It does not help negotiations.
00:33:32.000 It looks like weakness. 1.00
00:33:33.000 And the Iranians can sense weakness, they can smell it. 1.00
00:33:39.000 The president went to Barack Ravid at Axios, who used to be like the Obama cutout. 1.00
00:33:44.000 And then he became JD Vance's team's cutout over at Axios.
00:33:47.000 And now the president is using Barack Ravid as his cutout.
00:33:50.000 And the president went to Axios and he said that he was shocked when his advisors called him to brief about that Israeli strike in Beirut.
00:33:57.000 And he fumed at Netanyahu It is so bad I couldn't believe it.
00:34:00.000 An hour before we're supposed to sign the deal.
00:34:03.000 Trump acknowledged that Hezbollah attacked Israel first, but stressed it didn't cause any damage and nobody had been killed. 0.54
00:34:07.000 Why did Bibi have to do an effing attack?
00:34:09.000 I was so pissed off.
00:34:10.000 I let him know.
00:34:11.000 He has no effing judgment.
00:34:12.000 I let him know that.
00:34:13.000 And then he said the same thing to the Wall Street Journal Bibi shouldn't have done that.
00:34:16.000 I didn't like it at all.
00:34:17.000 They fired a couple of small missiles and missed their mark by a lot.
00:34:20.000 They have to fire back, then he'll fire back, then the whole thing never stops in the Middle East.
00:34:24.000 So we are now back to what? 0.71
00:34:25.000 Cycle of violence nonsense?
00:34:27.000 That suddenly there's no difference between Israel defending itself and Hezbollah firing missiles and rockets at Israelis in Israeli territory?
00:34:34.000 Okay, this is the problem.
00:34:38.000 This is why I am skeptical.
00:34:39.000 So, again, I think that there's not much in the 60 day memorandum.
00:34:44.000 I think the memo of understanding is probably open ended.
00:34:47.000 I think it probably doesn't involve a lot of substantive discussion.
00:34:50.000 I'm hopeful that essentially all it is is the United States saying, listen, we're done here.
00:34:55.000 We've done most of the damage we're willing to do.
00:34:58.000 You want to mess around in the Strait of Hormuz?
00:35:00.000 That's your business. 0.98
00:35:00.000 The Europeans and the Chinese can take care of it. 0.98
00:35:03.000 We're out. 1.00
00:35:04.000 I'm hopeful that's what this is.
00:35:05.000 And that basically there is no second step because I think a second step would be quite bad.
00:35:10.000 But we're not going to know until we see the text.
00:35:12.000 The one thing I will say with regard to the president and the vice president and the signals they are sending if you keep sending the signal to a terror backing regime that chants death to America, that you want to deal with them so badly that you're going to tell our allies in the region to stand down, you are giving them an enormous amount of forward momentum.
00:35:32.000 And that is a huge mistake that should not be done.
00:35:35.000 And I hope that the president does not do that.
00:35:38.000 Again, that signing ceremony in Switzerland should be canceled.
00:35:40.000 It should not happen.
00:35:41.000 A picture of the vice president standing next to an IRGC cutout like Mohamed Khalibaf is not something the United States should be celebrating.
00:35:47.000 It is not a good idea. 0.59
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