The Ben Shapiro Show - Trump Destroys Bannon, Salts The Earth | Ep. 446

00:00:00.000 President Trump does have a nuclear button on his desk, but it is just for Steve Bannon.

00:00:04.000 And I have many, many thoughts on this.

00:00:06.000 Many a thought.

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00:00:13.000 Ah, so many emotions.

00:00:15.000 So many things to talk about.

00:00:16.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:00:17.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show. 0.95

00:00:23.000 Steve Bannon's the worst person ever.

00:00:24.000 Okay, let's just start with that. 1.00

00:00:25.000 Steve is just a garbage human being. 0.99

00:00:26.000 So, to watch the President of the United States turn his wrath towards Steve Bannon is very much akin to the scene in the new Star Wars film, spoiler alert, in the throne room, with Kylo Ren, with the lightsaber. 1.00

00:00:39.000 Okay, so...

00:00:41.000 It's a lot of things happened yesterday and many of them are good.

00:00:44.000 I think very good for the administration.

00:00:46.000 Actually, the short term effect is everybody's gonna say, oh, it's chaos in the White House.

00:00:49.000 Guess what? 1.00

00:00:49.000 Everyone's always saying that crap. 1.00

00:00:51.000 But the question is whether it's good for the administration short and long term. 0.98

00:00:54.000 And the answer is the disembowelment of Steve Bannon and

00:00:58.000 Strewing the the planes with his intestines was I think in the end a quite good move for the administration I'll explain why in just a second.

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00:02:26.000 All right, so.

00:02:28.000 Here we are, gang!

00:02:30.000 Now, you may sense a bit of personal satisfaction from yours truly that Steve Bannon just got cut in half by the President of the United States.

00:02:39.000 You would not be mistaken.

00:02:40.000 Steve Bannon is a bad man.

00:02:41.000 I've been saying for well over a year that Steve Bannon is a bad man.

00:02:44.000 I said in March 2016 that Steve Bannon had betrayed Andrew Breitbart's legacy and that he had sold out Breitbart to become his personal political vehicle.

00:02:50.000 So I was first on this boat.

00:02:52.000 And I don't mean like one of the first.

00:02:54.000 I mean the first.

00:02:55.000 I was the guy who was saying this for over a year.

00:02:58.000 I said for two years that he was a self-aggrandizing con man who leeched himself to more powerful players in order to maintain power.

00:03:06.000 This is stuff that I was saying.

00:03:08.000 And I was eminently correct.

00:03:09.000 And the president now agrees.

00:03:10.000 I'm glad that the president of the United States has come to the truest, most proper conclusion he has ever come to in history ever.

00:03:18.000 He said the truest things that have ever been said about Steve Bannon.

00:03:20.000 So here is the lead up.

00:03:21.000 So the lead up is that Steve

00:03:24.000 is constantly leaking to the media for his own self-aggrandizement.

00:03:27.000 I've been saying this to members of the media.

00:03:29.000 Look at every interview that I've done over the last year, I've been saying, Steve Bannon does not have any actual power, he just had the perception of power.

00:03:35.000 That perception of power was being driven by a rabid media interested in painting President Trump as a rube and a hick who didn't know what he was doing, and therefore Bannon was the power behind the throne, manipulating things like some great puppeteer. 0.64

00:03:46.000 It was all nonsense.

00:03:48.000 Bannon was never a great puppeteer. 0.99

00:03:49.000 Bannon was always a guy who plastered his lips to the ass of the most powerful person that he could find and glued them there like a barnacle until he could ride them to glory. 0.99

00:03:57.000 And then, when the whale died, then he, like a virus, would find a new host and the parasite would move on. 0.99

00:04:04.000 He did this to Sarah Palin.

00:04:05.000 He did this to Andrew Breitbart, who literally died, not because of Bannon, but then he took over Breitbart's shop and turned into Bannon.com to the point where they were selling Bannon fidget spinners like five months ago.

00:04:15.000 We were trying to get some yesterday here at the office, but unfortunately they are all out of stock.

00:04:19.000 In any case, Steve Bannon has been doing this as a career move for a very long time.

00:04:24.000 And he had cultivated a lot of people.

00:04:26.000 Like he had cultivated some of the hosts at Fox News.

00:04:28.000 He'd become close with people like Sean Hannity.

00:04:31.000 He tried to paint himself as the intellectual veneer of Trumpism.

00:04:34.000 And then he started to buy his own press.

00:04:35.000 And this is always the fatal flaw.

00:04:37.000 In this particular Greek tragedy,

00:04:39.000 Steve Bannon was the guy who was the gimlet-eyed, steely-souled fellow who was going to maneuver his way to the top.

00:04:46.000 It was going to be like How to Succeed in Business without really trying, except without Robert Morse's charm.

00:04:50.000 And he was going to simply ride that wave all the way to power.

00:04:55.000 The problem is, Steve began to believe his own press.

00:04:57.000 He began to believe that he was the philosopher.

00:05:00.000 Right?

00:05:00.000 He was the brain of the Trump administration.

00:05:02.000 Trump was the balls and the heart, and Steve Bannon was the brain.

00:05:05.000 He was the guy who was really driving all of the activity. 0.88

00:05:08.000 And he tried to make the media believe this, right?

00:05:10.000 He would go into the White House, and he would have his whiteboard behind him with all of the promises, I'm the guy who sits here for 20 hours a day trying to get things done.

00:05:16.000 Within three months, he'd been marginalized.

00:05:18.000 Like, very quickly, he'd been marginalized.

00:05:20.000 So he put himself basically on the cover of Time magazine, and that was step number one.

00:05:23.000 And Steve started to believe because he would go to these rallies, and people would cheer for him because they saw him as a proxy for Trump.

00:05:29.000 Instead, he started to believe that people actually cared about Steve Bannon.

00:05:32.000 No one ever cared about Steve Bannon.

00:05:34.000 People cared about Sarah Palin.

00:05:35.000 She built herself a movement. 0.99

00:05:37.000 People cared about Andrew Breitbart, who is a legitimately good human being, whose legacy has been betrayed and spit upon by a subversive, disgusting con man. 0.97

00:05:45.000 I knew Andrew. 0.96

00:05:46.000 I was close to Andrew.

00:05:47.000 I was friends with Andrew for virtually all of my adult life.

00:05:50.000 I mean, literally, I met him when I was 17 years old, and I worked closely with him until his death.

00:05:54.000 Steve Bannon took his legacy and pissed all over it for Steve Bannon's own personal aggrandizement.

00:06:00.000 These are people who actually built something.

00:06:02.000 Steve Bannon has never built a damn thing in his entire life.

00:06:05.000 He did not build the Trump campaign.

00:06:07.000 He was not even part of the Trump campaign except for Mercer Money.

00:06:09.000 The reason that Steve Bannon was on the campaign is because the Mercers went to Donald Trump and they said, we want to put money into your campaign.

00:06:14.000 Why don't you take a couple people we're close with, Steve Bannon and Kellyanne Conway.

00:06:17.000 That's how they both got on the Trump campaign.

00:06:19.000 This is obvious and publicly available information.

00:06:22.000 Okay, Bannon was not the great manipulator.

00:06:24.000 He was not the great genius.

00:06:25.000 He has a good gift for getting in good with people, right?

00:06:27.000 This is what he does.

00:06:28.000 What he does, he goes to more powerful people and he says, I can make you even more powerful.

00:06:31.000 Just follow you, be you.

00:06:33.000 Let Trump be Trump.

00:06:34.000 Let Palin be Palin.

00:06:35.000 Let Breitbart be Breitbart.

00:06:36.000 This was his shtick.

00:06:37.000 But then something happened to Steve.

00:06:39.000 It's a good shtick.

00:06:40.000 It's a good shtick as far as it goes.

00:06:41.000 But then I think something happened to Steve.

00:06:43.000 And what happened to Steve is Steve began to buy his own press.

00:06:46.000 Never buy your own press, particularly when the press is being created by the leaks that you are supplying to the press.

00:06:52.000 So Steve began with this wishful thinking that he was this very powerful player.

00:06:55.000 He would go to the press.

00:06:56.000 He would leak all this information to the press, making him seem like a powerful player.

00:06:59.000 And then he'd start to believe what he read in the press that he had leaked to the press, that he was a very powerful player.

00:07:03.000 And this made him think, I am the new face of Trumpism.

00:07:08.000 There is Trump, and then there's Trumpism.

00:07:09.000 Trumpism is nationalist populism.

00:07:11.000 It's this grand philosophy of a government that is going to stand up for blue-collar working Americans through tariffs and infrastructure plans and higher taxes on the rich.

00:07:20.000 It'll be a merger between Bernie Sanders' domestic policy with regard to taxing the rich for the benefit of the Rust Belt workers, and it'll be a combination of that with Pat Buchanan-esque isolationism on foreign policy in some areas.

00:07:33.000 This kind of hard-nosed realism.

00:07:36.000 That was Bannon's take.

00:07:37.000 And Bannon thought that he could do it.

00:07:38.000 Bannon thought that he was going to take Trumpism away from Trump.

00:07:41.000 And once you start thinking that you are going to take the movement away from the man, you are done.

00:07:45.000 Because there is no Trumpist movement outside of Trump.

00:07:47.000 There isn't.

00:07:49.000 People voted for Trump because they liked the attitude.

00:07:50.000 They didn't vote for Trump because he had a list of policy proposals.

00:07:53.000 If people had voted for a list of policy proposals, Mitt Romney would be president right now.

00:07:57.000 People don't vote for lists of policy proposals.

00:07:59.000 They vote for people.

00:08:00.000 People voted for Trump.

00:08:01.000 They voted for Trump not because of his policy.

00:08:04.000 I know Ann Coulter has this shtick today where she's saying people voted for him because they wanted the immigration reform.

00:08:08.000 It's true that if he had run on a different platform on immigration, he might have gotten a different voter base.

00:08:13.000 But to suggest that if Donald Trump moved to the left on immigration, his entire base would desert him, that they are all ideologically driven, is just not the case.

00:08:20.000 It's just not the case.

00:08:20.000 People voted for Trump for two reasons.

00:08:22.000 He wasn't Hillary Clinton, and he had this kind of

00:08:25.000 This feel of aggression, right?

00:08:27.000 And people wanted the feel of aggression.

00:08:29.000 It was much more about Trump than it was about any sort of cohesive political philosophy.

00:08:32.000 So Steve tried to build a false cohesive political philosophy around Trump.

00:08:36.000 But even Steve didn't believe that.

00:08:38.000 See, this is the thing.

00:08:39.000 Steve didn't even believe that.

00:08:39.000 What Steve believed is that he was powerful enough to dupe people into believing that he had a political philosophy, and then he was building a movement around that.

00:08:46.000 Steve is dishonest.

00:08:47.000 Steve is not interested in a political philosophy of any kind.

00:08:50.000 I talked to him on the phone for two hours a day for two years.

00:08:52.000 I know Steve pretty well.

00:08:54.000 I know Steve better than to believe that Steve has a set notion of his own political philosophy.

00:09:00.000 And every time the media would ask me about this for years, I would say, he doesn't have one.

00:09:04.000 He's doing this for convenience.

00:09:05.000 He thought, how do I distinguish myself in the marketplace?

00:09:07.000 Well, if I'm a typical conservative, then I'm no different than Mitch McConnell, or than Paul Ryan, or than a bevy of other conservatives who push conservatism.

00:09:15.000 So what can I do?

00:09:15.000 Well, Trump is different.

00:09:17.000 And his policy proposals are different and all over the place.

00:09:20.000 What if I craft a new philosophy?

00:09:22.000 And I make myself the avatar of that new philosophy.

00:09:25.000 And then, Trump is superfluous to that philosophy because people voted for the philosophy, they didn't vote for Trump.

00:09:29.000 And I'm a better face for that philosophy than Trump is.

00:09:31.000 I'm smarter than Trump.

00:09:33.000 Probably true.

00:09:34.000 I'm more ballsy than Trump.

00:09:36.000 Probably not true.

00:09:37.000 I'm more charismatic than Trump.

00:09:39.000 Obviously not true.

00:09:40.000 He looks like a homeless refugee from the Vietnam War.

00:09:43.000 Right? 1.00

00:09:44.000 The idea that Steve Bannon was ever going to capture the Trumpist movement and move it away from Trump is just asinine. 0.98

00:09:49.000 It was never going to happen. 0.89

00:09:51.000 But Steve began to buy his own press.

00:09:52.000 And that's why Steve, after he was ousted from the administration, had become completely marginal.

00:09:56.000 He had no impact on the administration.

00:09:58.000 None.

00:10:00.000 Because he had no impact on the administration, he had to come up with a new plan after he left Breitbart.

00:10:04.000 I mean, after he left the Trump administration.

00:10:07.000 So he went back to Breitbart, which was the only place that would have him.

00:10:09.000 He wasn't going to get hired anyplace else.

00:10:10.000 He'd been marginalized already.

00:10:12.000 He goes back to Breitbart and he comes up with a new plan.

00:10:14.000 And in just one second, I'm going to explain to you Steve Bannon's new plan and how it dramatically backfired and destroyed him.

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00:12:08.000 In any case, Steve Bannon.

00:12:11.000 He has to come up with a new philosophy of what he's going to do.

00:12:14.000 So what Steve has done is he's always used people to get where he wants to go, right?

00:12:18.000 He used Breitbart.

00:12:19.000 He used Palin.

00:12:20.000 He used Hannity.

00:12:21.000 He used Fox News.

00:12:23.000 He used Roger Ailes.

00:12:24.000 He uses all these people, and then he turns on them when they become inconvenient, and he throws them under the bus, because that's who Steve is.

00:12:29.000 He did it with the alt-right as well, right?

00:12:31.000 He said that he made himself a platform for the alt-right, and then when Milo Yiannopoulos ran into trouble, then suddenly Milo was dead to him.

00:12:37.000 He rode Roy Moore until Roy Moore dropped like a horse.

00:12:40.000 And then suddenly he said, Roy Moore is dead to me.

00:12:42.000 Paul Nealon.

00:12:43.000 We'll back Paul Nealon against Paul Ryan.

00:12:45.000 And then when Nealon goes toxic, then he's dead to me.

00:12:48.000 This is Steve Bannon's routine.

00:12:50.000 OK, so now Steve Bannon is out at the White House.

00:12:54.000 But he has to prop up his position of looking like he's powerful.

00:12:57.000 So what can he do to look powerful?

00:12:59.000 Well, he has to find, again, this distinguishing point.

00:13:01.000 So he is now, he's made himself the face of this so-called Trumpist philosophy.

00:13:06.000 But where can he find somebody who reflects that Trumpist philosophy?

00:13:09.000 Well, he has a couple of options.

00:13:10.000 One, he could go the Karl Rove method.

00:13:12.000 He could start a super PAC.

00:13:13.000 He could raise a lot of money.

00:13:14.000 He could stay behind the scenes.

00:13:15.000 He could try to manipulate.

00:13:16.000 But that's not Steve.

00:13:17.000 Steve wants to be out front.

00:13:18.000 Steve is the only media mogul in human history who had his own radio show.

00:13:23.000 I was a personality before I ran Daily Wire.

00:13:25.000 Steve Bannon was nothing until he was associated with Breitbart, but he was the guy who was doing Breitbart News Radio.

00:13:31.000 It just demonstrates what Steve's sort of idea of himself is, which is he wants to be a public figure.

00:13:36.000 He wants his face to be on things.

00:13:37.000 He likes the President Bannon shtick.

00:13:39.000 So, he wants to be a public figure.

00:13:40.000 So, he can't do Karl Rove and just fund things from behind the scenes and build a movement, which is what you would actually do if you wanted to build a movement.

00:13:46.000 Instead, he has to do something different.

00:13:48.000 And what he has to do is he has to find candidates who will allow him to go on stage and be the biggest guy there.

00:13:53.000 He has to go find a place where he is different than Mitch McConnell and the quote-unquote establishment, and he has to try and channel Tea Party anger against the establishment into support for the Bannon philosophy movement.

00:14:04.000 To the Bannon movement.

00:14:05.000 So he's going to try and turn the Tea Party to the Bannon party.

00:14:08.000 That's going to be his plan.

00:14:09.000 And the person who chooses to do this, because Bannon is not a particularly bright political operator, is Roy Moore.

00:14:15.000 He says, I'm going to make Roy Moore in Alabama my man.

00:14:17.000 So first, he tries to support Mo Brooks in Alabama, which is the correct move.

00:14:20.000 Then, when Mo Brooks loses, he says, I'm going to support Roy Moore over Luther Strange in the runoff, despite all of Roy Moore's toxicity.

00:14:28.000 And in part because of Roy Moore's toxicity, because Roy Moore is the kind of guy who will say anything.

00:14:31.000 He's much more of a Trumpy figure than Luther Strange.

00:14:34.000 He'll say anything that he wants to say.

00:14:36.000 He'll stand up to anyone. 0.52

00:14:37.000 He's a tough, rough son of a... Right, that's the shtick.

00:14:41.000 And so he's going to support Roy Moore, especially because Mitch McConnell's supporting Luther Strange.

00:14:46.000 And then Trump comes down on Luther Strange's side and Bannon says, well, it doesn't matter.

00:14:49.000 I'm more of a representative, in some ways convenient, I'm more of a representative of Trumpism.

00:14:55.000 Trump is a figure, but I'm a philosopher.

00:14:58.000 If Trump really were a philosopher, he'd support Roy Moore.

00:15:01.000 But there's only one problem. 0.63

00:15:03.000 Roy Moore is a horrible candidate.

00:15:05.000 Such a horrible candidate that Roy Moore goes on to lose, goes on to lose, for the first time in 30 years, a Republican seat in Alabama because of allegations of child molestation. 0.91

00:15:15.000 And Steve is so deep down this hole now, he can't pull out.

00:15:18.000 Steve is so deep down this hole that he takes Breitbart, a publication he had always used as his personal baton to wield against his enemies,

00:15:25.000 He takes Breitbart and he uses it as a baton to wield against the alleged victims of molestation for Roy Moore.

00:15:30.000 He has Alex Marlowe, a guy I know well and a guy with whom I was once close friends.

00:15:34.000 He takes Alex and he, and Alex goes out and says openly that he believes the accusers against Roy Moore, but then they deploy reporters down to Alabama to try to discredit the accusers against Roy Moore and get Roy Moore elected senator, supposedly in an attempt to defend Trump or something, which makes no sense since Trump was not even supporting Roy Moore in that primary.

00:15:53.000 And then Bannon, to make matters worse, convinces Trump to jump in last minute to support Roy Moore, humiliating the president, humiliating Bannon, and humiliating the Republican Party as Roy Moore goes down in absolute flames, as morally he should have considering the allegations against him.

00:16:07.000 So all of that said, now Bannon is in a real pickle.

00:16:11.000 He's in a real pickle because he's picked a bunch of candidates and they all lost.

00:16:14.000 And Mitch McConnell is suddenly working hand-in-glove with President Trump.

00:16:17.000 Suddenly, Bannon has not only been edged out, he's been edged out by the establishment.

00:16:21.000 There's suddenly Republican unity around a Republican program.

00:16:24.000 And his philosophy of, I'll burn it all down and build a giant statue of Bannon in the aftermath, that's completely fallen apart.

00:16:31.000 There's nothing he can do.

00:16:32.000 Because Mitch McConnell did not back Roy Moore in Alabama.

00:16:35.000 Mitch McConnell, the Senate Conservatives Fund, did not back Roy Moore in Alabama.

00:16:39.000 The National Republican Senatorial Committee did not involve itself in that race.

00:16:43.000 So Mitch McConnell was not the guy who convinced Trump to go all in for an incredibly alleged child molester.

00:16:49.000 And then Mitch McConnell passes tax reform.

00:16:53.000 The only big win, the only big legislative win of Trump's administration comes after Steve Bannon leaves and comes in direct contravention to Steve Bannon's own tax reform plan, which would have involved raising taxes on wealthy people, which this bill did not do.

00:17:08.000 So Bannon's on the ropes.

00:17:10.000 So now what can Bannon do?

00:17:11.000 And it gets worse.

00:17:12.000 A few weeks ago, I hear a rumor that Steve Bannon has been cut off by the Mercers. 0.91

00:17:15.000 The Mercers were his money fund, and basically after Roy Moore, the Mercers said, enough of this con man, we're done.

00:17:20.000 And they decide they're not going to fund any more Steve Bannon projects.

00:17:22.000 That was at least the going rumor in sort of political circles.

00:17:26.000 So Steve's desperate.

00:17:27.000 So what does Steve do?

00:17:28.000 Well, Steve only has one ally left.

00:17:31.000 It's not Trump, because Trump isn't really taking his phone calls.

00:17:33.000 The last time Trump talked to Bannon was early December, apparently.

00:17:38.000 It's no longer his allies at Fox News, who won't have him on after the Roy Moore thing.

00:17:43.000 Bannon's basically been absent since then.

00:17:45.000 It's not the Mercers, because the Mercers aren't providing him cash anymore.

00:17:48.000 So he has only one ally left.

00:17:50.000 The only ally he has left are the people who built him up in the first place, and that is the members of the mainstream media.

00:17:54.000 That's all he has left, is the members of the mainstream media who have a concern

00:18:00.000 And an interest in making Bannon continue to appear a powerful figure so they can foster conflict inside the Republican Party.

00:18:05.000 Because the longer Bannon is out there lurking, sniping at Trump, sniping at McConnell, creating chaos, the better it is for the media, the better story it is, the better narrative, and the worse it is for conservatives and Republicans.

00:18:16.000 So Bannon has to go back to the media, right?

00:18:18.000 He goes finally back to his only ally, the people he's been lying about ripping, right?

00:18:22.000 The reality is that when Bannon left the White House, only one thing was lost.

00:18:28.000 Only one thing declined when Bannon left the White House, and that was the phone bill to Maggie Haberman at the New York Times, and the phone bill to Politico, and the phone bill to all the other outlets that Steve Bannon was allegedly leaking to.

00:18:39.000 Steve Bannon loves talking to the press, which is why he was quoted recently, and this is what I'm going to talk about now, he did an entire series of interviews with Michael Wolff, who has now written a book called Fire and Fury.

00:18:51.000 Right?

00:18:51.000 The Fire and the Fury.

00:18:53.000 And this book is coming out.

00:18:53.000 It's number one on Amazon.

00:18:54.000 It's doing all sorts of business because it's basically a bunch of gossip from the White House.

00:18:59.000 The guy who brought Michael Wolff in was Steve Bannon.

00:19:02.000 Steve Bannon was sitting there for hours a day, apparently, talking with Michael Wolff on tape about his perception of the universe, right?

00:19:07.000 How Steve Bannon was the most powerful figure who would be the next president of the United States.

00:19:10.000 So he goes back to his friends in the media, and his friends in the media, he's going to leak to them and make it appear that he's still a power player, even though he is not a power player, even though he never was a power player, even though the only perception of him as a power player had been created out of whole cloth by Steve Bannon and the mainstream media.

00:19:27.000 And the luck of Andrew Breitbart dying and leaving him in charge of Breitbart.

00:19:30.000 By the way, he wasn't left in charge of Breitbart.

00:19:31.000 Larry Solove was Andrew Breitbart's partner in crime.

00:19:34.000 Larry Solove should have taken the reins at Breitbart as well he should do now by firing Steve Bannon.

00:19:38.000 He should never have hired Steve Bannon.

00:19:39.000 I urged him at the time not to hire Steve Bannon, but in any case, he did.

00:19:43.000 Now he should move away from that as fast as possible.

00:19:46.000 So, he goes back to his members of the mainstream media, and he leaks to them, just as he was fired from the administration for leaking to the American prospect about how Trump didn't know what he was doing in North Korea. 0.89

00:19:55.000 And what he dropped to Michael Wolff was a bunch of crap about all of his enemies in the administration. 0.80

00:20:00.000 That's all this was. 0.97

00:20:01.000 It was just him riffing about the administration.

00:20:03.000 And a bunch of people in the media picked up on this Wolff book and they say, well, he must have inside knowledge of corrupt activities inside the Trump administration.

00:20:10.000 This is what they jump on.

00:20:11.000 They're looking for an excuse to club Trump into submission over Trump-Russia collusion or over criminal activity because, let's face it, the members of the media are still waiting for the D.O.S.

00:20:20.000 machina, they're still waiting for the God and the machine to come in 0.99

00:20:25.000 Or outside the machine to come in and fix everything.

00:20:28.000 They're still waiting for Mueller to come in from the skies like a vengeful Valkyrie and behead President Trump and make Hillary president.

00:20:35.000 So now, Bannon is out there telling the press that Donald Trump Jr.

00:20:38.000 acted treasonously, he was unpatriotic, and it was bad bleep. 0.57

00:20:43.000 Right?

00:20:43.000 And that they should have called the FBI.

00:20:45.000 And the media say, well, that means that he must have known something bad was going on at that meeting.

00:20:50.000 Steve Bannon didn't join the campaign until August.

00:20:53.000 Okay, that meeting took place in June.

00:20:55.000 June, July, August.

00:20:57.000 Last I checked, June is before August.

00:20:59.000 Steve Bannon had no internal knowledge of what happened at that meeting.

00:21:02.000 I think the meeting was bad myself, by the way. 0.99

00:21:04.000 But the idea that Steve Bannon has the goods is just asinine. 0.78

00:21:08.000 And then he says that Breitbart is not even a legit publication, which of course we already knew.

00:21:12.000 I said that in March 2016.

00:21:15.000 It was roundly excoriated by a lot of people who were on Trump's side.

00:21:18.000 How dare you say Breitbart isn't a legit publication?

00:21:21.000 Because it wasn't since Bannon took it over.

00:21:23.000 Since Bannon really began running the shop, it had turned into Bannon's personal tool.

00:21:28.000 And then he goes after Kushner.

00:21:30.000 He went after Jared Kushner, and he said that his involvement with Russia was greasy, and it was all about the Deutsche Bank corruption, and they're sitting on a beach trying to stop a Category 5.

00:21:40.000 We went through some of this yesterday. 0.99

00:21:42.000 And then Steve Bannon apparently says in the book also that Ivanka is dumb as a brick. 0.99

00:21:47.000 So he's just a brilliant guy. 0.99

00:21:48.000 He decides to go back to the media and leak on everybody and talk about how terrible everybody is and all the rest.

00:21:53.000 The entirety of all of this amounts to he goes to war with the guy who made him prominent in the first place.

00:22:03.000 He goes to war with the guy who made him prominent in the first place.

00:22:05.000 And finally, Trump has had enough.

00:22:07.000 This brings us to Donald Trump losing it with Bannon and doing the finest thing any human being has ever done on this planet.

00:22:15.000 And going off on Bannon,

00:22:17.000 And in truly epic fashion.

00:22:19.000 And in second, I'm going to tell you what Donald Trump had to say and why Donald Trump is right about all of it.

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00:23:27.000 All right, so

00:23:29.000 Finally, President Trump loses it on Steve Bannon, right?

00:23:34.000 He just, he absolutely loses it on Bannon and releases one of the great epic burns in the history of American presidential politics.

00:23:42.000 It really is unprecedented for the president to take a member of his own cabinet, basically, and just dump, I mean, this dump, it's an epic dump.

00:23:51.000 I mean, it basically is the scene from Back to the Future where Marty McFly

00:23:55.000 somehow maneuvers Biff into driving his brand new car into the back of the manure truck.

00:24:01.000 And that's essentially what happened here.

00:24:03.000 And so Trump, here, we'll do Trump's statement in just a second, but you know what?

00:24:08.000 I'm gonna make you wait.

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00:24:12.000 Should we do that right now?

00:24:13.000 No?

00:24:13.000 Not yet?

00:24:13.000 You know what?

00:24:14.000 No?

00:24:14.000 You know what?

00:24:15.000 We'll do one more.

00:24:16.000 Okay, fine.

00:24:16.000 So, here is the statement from President Trump.

00:24:19.000 I won't tease you like that.

00:24:20.000 Here's the statement from President Trump.

00:24:21.000 Here it is.

00:24:21.000 You ready?

00:24:23.000 Steve Bannon has nothing to do with me or my presidency.

00:24:26.000 When he was fired, he not only lost his job, he lost his mind.

00:24:30.000 Steve was a staffer who worked for me after I had already won the nomination by defeating 17 candidates often described as the most talented field ever assembled in the Republican Party.

00:24:38.000 Now that he is on his own, Steve is learning that winning isn't as easy as I make it look.

00:24:42.000 Steve had very little to do with our historic victory, which was delivered by the forgotten men and women of this country. 0.96

00:24:46.000 Yet Steve had everything to do with the loss of a Senate seat in Alabama held for more than 30 years by Republicans.

00:24:52.000 Steve doesn't represent my base.

00:24:53.000 He's only in it for himself.

00:24:54.000 Steve pretends to be at war with the media, which he calls the opposition party, yet he spends his time at the White House leaking false information to the media to make himself seem far more important than he was.

00:25:03.000 It's the only thing he does well.

00:25:04.000 Steve was rarely in a one-on-one meeting with me and only pretends to have had influence to fool a few people with no access and no clue whom he helped write phony books.

00:25:11.000 We have many great Republican members of Congress and candidates who are very supportive of the Make America Great Again agenda.

00:25:16.000 Like me, they love the United States of America and are helping to finally take our country back and build it up, rather than simply seeking to burn it all down.

00:25:27.000 Slow clap that builds into an impressive round of applause for the President of the United States.

00:25:33.000 Every word of this is true.

00:25:35.000 Steve Bannon is not responsible for Trump's victory.

00:25:36.000 He is not responsible for Trump's agenda.

00:25:38.000 He is not responsible for Trump's philosophy.

00:25:41.000 He is not responsible for Trump's accomplishments in the last two months.

00:25:44.000 Trump has gotten more done in the last two months without Steve Bannon there than he did in the entirety of Steve Bannon's tenure in the White House.

00:25:51.000 Now, other members of the Trump team have also sounded off about Bannon.

00:25:57.000 My former colleague at Breitbart and my friend Larry O'Connor, he had a good piece of the Washington Times saying, that's basically correct.

00:26:09.000 No one likes Bannon.

00:26:10.000 The reason no one likes Bannon is because Bannon is a bad man. 0.99

00:26:13.000 He's a bad man who uses people and abuses people.

00:26:15.000 He's a person who doesn't have any thoroughgoing philosophy. 0.90

00:26:17.000 He does not care about policy.

00:26:19.000 He does not believe

00:26:21.000 in a conservative approach to governance.

00:26:23.000 He is not somebody who believes in anything but Steve Bannon.

00:26:26.000 And watching Bannon burn down and watching Trump recognize the flaw in Bannon and cleanse his administration of a nefarious force that was willing to make common cause with him.

00:26:35.000 It was Bannon who was telling Trump, apparently, to blame both sides in Charlottesville. 0.97

00:26:38.000 It was Bannon who originally formulated the travel ban that ended up being struck down by the courts because he was too stupid to actually go to the lawyers and ask them how to do it. 0.95

00:26:48.000 Trump's administration just got a lot better by separating off from Steve Bannon. 0.96

00:26:51.000 Even Breitbart knows it.

00:26:52.000 Breitbart is running the story straight today.

00:26:55.000 The commenters at Breitbart are very anti-Bannon, as well they should be, because Bannon was undermining Trump's agenda.

00:27:00.000 When I was anti-Trump, I was anti-Trump because I didn't feel that Trump was for the conservative agenda.

00:27:06.000 When Trump has been for the conservative agenda, I have cheered him.

00:27:09.000 When Bannon cheered for Trump, it wasn't about the conservative agenda.

00:27:12.000 It was about what does Trump do for Bannon?

00:27:14.000 That's it.

00:27:16.000 I think the readers over at Breitbart are aware now of that.

00:27:19.000 I think the readers over at Breitbart are issue-oriented, many of them.

00:27:23.000 I think that they like Trump because they think that they're going to get out of Trump what they want to get out of Trump.

00:27:27.000 I used to work there.

00:27:28.000 I believe that a lot of the people who follow Breitbart aren't doing so because they want to follow Steve Bannon down the rabbit hole of his personal ambition.

00:27:35.000 And I think that people are beginning to wake up to this.

00:27:37.000 So there is widespread celebration.

00:27:39.000 It's basically the recut of Return of the Jedi, which I just watched recently.

00:27:44.000 The recut, which is not as good as the original.

00:27:45.000 But in the recut, after the second Death Star is blown up, spoiler alert, there are a bunch of shots of random people around the galaxy celebrating.

00:27:54.000 They just inserted this for the re-release and it's like people on Naboo celebrating.

00:27:58.000 Okay, that's basically how it was around conservative media yesterday when Steve Bannon was torched by the president, when he was set on fire.

00:28:05.000 The metaphor actually works because Bannon called himself Darth Vader.

00:28:07.000 In any case, Donald Jr.

00:28:08.000 went off on Bannon and he's exactly right.

00:28:11.000 He says, Steve had the honor of working in the White House and serving the country.

00:28:14.000 Unfortunately, he squandered that privilege and turned that opportunity into a nightmare of backstabbing, harassing, leaking it, lying, and undermining the president.

00:28:20.000 Steve is not a strategist, he is an opportunist.

00:28:24.000 Amen.

00:28:25.000 Hey, Mitch McConnell, who is the guy who got Trump not only Justice Gorsuch, but also the tax cut.

00:28:31.000 I love, the troll is strong in this one.

00:28:34.000 I had tweeted out myself that Mitch McConnell, that this would be Mitch McConnell's reaction.

00:28:37.000 So apparently, Team Mitch basically picked up on it.

00:28:40.000 Here is what Mitch McConnell tweeted out in the aftermath of Trump's statement about Bannon.

00:28:52.000 For people who can't see, it is a shot of Mitch McConnell just slowly smiling.

00:28:58.000 And it's pretty glorious.

00:29:00.000 Sarah Huckabee Sanders, you have to understand, no one likes Steve Bannon because Steve Bannon is a toxic personality.

00:29:08.000 I know many people who work in the White House.

00:29:11.000 There was not a note of disapproval about anything that happened yesterday.

00:29:15.000 Sarah Huckabee Sanders, here's what she had to say about President Trump's

00:29:19.000 I mean, all I can say about the statement, honestly, it's so brutal.

00:29:23.000 For the first time, Rosie O'Donnell realized that Trump was going easy on her after reading that statement about Steve Bannon.

00:29:29.000 Trump basically went full Zoolander gas fight on Bannon.

00:29:34.000 He basically took a tank of gas and threw it all over Bannon and then lit a match and just real men walk away from explosions.

00:29:42.000 Here's Sarah Huckabee Sanders explaining there ain't that much to talk about here.

00:29:45.000 I mean the statement pretty much speaks for itself.

00:29:46.000 Does he feel betrayed by Steve Bannon?

00:29:49.000 Does he regret hiring him?

00:29:51.000 I think the president's statement is extremely clear what his position is.

00:29:55.000 Once again, I think the President's statement fully addresses what his position and what his relationship with Mr. Bannon is.

00:30:17.000 OK, so this is exactly right, and all of this is well-deserved.

00:30:21.000 This was coming to a man who thought that he was bigger than the president, not only bigger than the president, bigger than the conservative movement, bigger than the Tea Party, bigger than Andrew Breitbart, bigger than Sarah Palin, a man with outsized ambition buried by his own ambition.

00:30:32.000 If you want to see whether this is good for Trump, all you have to do is see how Democrats are reacting to it.

00:30:35.000 So suddenly, Bannon is their hero.

00:30:37.000 So Bannon had been ripping Trump up and down and suggesting that there was widespread corruption inside the Trump campaign.

00:30:43.000 And you can see the Democrats are seizing on that as though Bannon has anything new to say.

00:30:46.000 Bannon was not in the know.

00:30:48.000 Bannon was not there until late in the campaign.

00:30:51.000 Okay?

00:30:51.000 Mueller is the one who's going to know whether something went on.

00:30:53.000 I don't know whether something went on.

00:30:55.000 You don't know whether something went on.

00:30:56.000 The media don't know whether something went on.

00:30:57.000 And guess what?

00:30:58.000 Steve Bannon doesn't know if something went on either.

00:31:01.000 Steve Bannon is not aware if something went on either.

00:31:02.000 So you can see the Democrats seizing on this and trying to pretend that this is good evidence that Trump is going to go away very soon.

00:31:10.000 Julian Castro, the Democratic representative, he says that Bannon definitely has evidence of money laundering.

00:31:15.000 That's really the key here.

00:31:17.000 I can't talk about what I heard in the interview, but I can tell you that my impression, after sitting through those hours of that interview, is that the president should be concerned about issues of money laundering, of collusion, and of obstruction of justice.

00:31:32.000 I say that—that's my impression, not only from hearing that witness, but also many of the other witnesses that have come before the committee.

00:31:40.000 So, this White House should be nervous about what has been told to the committee.

00:31:44.000 And do you believe, as you said you can't necessarily tell us exactly what you heard in those hearings, do you believe that you heard evidence of crimes committed by members of this administration?

00:31:56.000 Okay, so again, they're jumping on the Bannon stuff in order to try and discredit Trump, which shows you why Bannon had to be ousted and why he had to be burned by Trump here.

00:32:03.000 It was all Bannon's own doing.

00:32:04.000 Well, we're going to have to take a break here in just a second.

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00:35:17.000 So the goal of the media is to keep Bannon around.

00:35:19.000 So understand that capping Bannon, taking the gun and leaving the cannoli is the best strategy for Trump and for the conservative movement at this point.

00:35:28.000 The leftists want to keep Bannon around because they want to keep fostering this internecine warfare.

00:35:32.000 If you read the excerpts from Michael Wolff's book Fire and Fury, it's a lot of inside gossip. 0.95

00:35:36.000 It's a lot of stuff about how Trump's a crazy guy who likes to stay up late and watch TV and he tweets a lot.

00:35:42.000 OK, if you follow his Twitter, none of this is foreign information to you. 0.94

00:35:46.000 He tweets at all hours.

00:35:47.000 We already know he likes KFC.

00:35:48.000 We know that he is petty and vengeful in many cases.

00:35:51.000 None of this is breaking news.

00:35:53.000 Welcome to the real world, folks.

00:35:55.000 A lot of it is just gossipy stuff that makes people turned on.

00:35:59.000 Melania didn't actually want to be First Lady. 1.00

00:36:01.000 Maybe that's true.

00:36:02.000 Who cares? 0.97

00:36:03.000 And a lot of it is Steve Bannon basically just mentally masturbating about his own power.

00:36:09.000 I tweeted yesterday that this book should have been called As Told by Steve Bannon because it just reads like that. 1.00

00:36:13.000 It reads like Bannon's fever dream about what his role in the movement is and who Trump is and calling all of his enemies bad people and idiots and morons. 0.99

00:36:21.000 And yet, magically, the administration seems to be working incredibly better since Bannon left than while he was there. 1.00

00:36:27.000 Weird how that works, isn't it?

00:36:28.000 Isn't it weird how dysfunction seems to follow that guy?

00:36:30.000 In any case,

00:36:32.000 People are making a big deal out of the revelations in this book.

00:36:35.000 The revelations are of no value to me.

00:36:37.000 The reason they're of no value to me is because I already knew this.

00:36:40.000 If you think that Trump was not a dysfunctional character, I don't know what show you've been listening to for the last couple of years.

00:36:45.000 I've always thought that Trump had serious character issues.

00:36:48.000 Now, the question is, how do those manifest themselves in policy?

00:36:50.000 In the last couple of months, they've manifested themselves in some bad tweeting, in some silly statements, in undercutting his own popularity.

00:36:58.000 All that's bad.

00:36:59.000 I've discussed all of that.

00:37:00.000 But in terms of policy, hadn't done much.

00:37:02.000 Okay, so Trump changes his own sheets because he's afraid that somebody's going to poison him or something.

00:37:06.000 Right?

00:37:06.000 This is what the book says.

00:37:07.000 Or that he eats KFC because he's afraid that the White House chef is going to kill him.

00:37:11.000 Let's say all of that's true, for the sake of argument.

00:37:13.000 Maybe it is.

00:37:14.000 Maybe he's like that.

00:37:15.000 Yeah, JFK was allegedly doing LSD and knocking on the interns, right?

00:37:18.000 I mean, the idea that any of this necessarily translates to governance is not true.

00:37:23.000 Now, is it great?

00:37:24.000 Would I prefer we had a character of moral uprightness and rectitude in the White House?

00:37:28.000 Of course.

00:37:29.000 Have I not been clear about this?

00:37:30.000 Did I stutter?

00:37:33.000 Let's be also clear about something.

00:37:34.000 All of the revelations people are finding so juicy in this book are really not revelations at all.

00:37:38.000 We already knew this.

00:37:38.000 It's just confirming detail.

00:37:40.000 But the media is going nuts over it because they want to paint the picture of Trump as a crazy person, and the country can't handle a crazy person, when in reality, the stock market just crossed $25,000, and the economy is doing really well.

00:37:51.000 And on foreign policy, we are making moves that are excellent for our national prestige and power.

00:37:57.000 All of it's good.

00:37:58.000 So that bifurcation may be weird to people, but unfortunately, that's the way that reality works sometimes.

00:38:03.000 Joy Behar, though, is trying to jump on all the bandwagon and say that Trump needs to be hospitalized. 0.99

00:38:06.000 He's just crazy. 0.96

00:38:10.000 Is this kind of a crazy game we're playing? 0.99

00:38:13.000 You know, Trump needs to be medicated and hospitalized.

00:38:17.000 At this point. 1.00

00:38:18.000 Or he is going to just kill all of us.

00:38:22.000 And you know, my feeling is that probably they're getting closer to him in the Mueller investigation.

00:38:27.000 And that's what this is about.

00:38:28.000 A lot of it. 1.00

00:38:29.000 It's like he'll blow the whole world up so he and his stupid sons don't have to go to jail. 1.00

00:38:34.000 Yeah, that's clearly what's happening right here, right? 1.00

00:38:35.000 Is that he wants to blow up the whole world so his sons don't go to jail?

00:38:38.000 Yeah, that's... Like, this is the picture the left wants to paint, and Bannon helped them paint it.

00:38:42.000 That's on Bannon.

00:38:42.000 Now, there have been a number of conservatives who have been sort of hedging their bets in the Bannon vs. Trump flame war.

00:38:48.000 So, Bannon himself went silent yesterday.

00:38:51.000 He hosted Breitbart News Radio, and he had nothing to say.

00:38:53.000 He said, Trump is a great man, and I support him in every way. 1.00

00:38:56.000 Except for, you know, routinely leaking on him and ripping his children and tearing apart members of his administration and crapping all over his agenda and leaking to the American prospect that his North Korean policy is stupid and suggesting that he's a child and a moron. 1.00

00:39:08.000 Except for all of that, I'm really on his side. 1.00

00:39:10.000 I've been fantastic, right?

00:39:11.000 That was Bannon's take.

00:39:12.000 There are a couple takes on that.

00:39:13.000 One is that Bannon knows he's in trouble and the only thing he can do here is basically

00:39:18.000 Grab Trump's leg and refuse to let go, right?

00:39:20.000 Like my toddler when I'm leaving the house.

00:39:22.000 I just grab that leg, and if I don't let go, then maybe Daddy won't leave.

00:39:26.000 Daddy left.

00:39:27.000 Steve, you're done, right?

00:39:28.000 Okay, so there's that.

00:39:30.000 There's also the possibility that Steve shut up because Trump actually had his lawyers draft up and send a letter.

00:39:35.000 Threatening Steve with violations of his nondisclosure agreement.

00:39:39.000 So Steve had, apparently, a pretty strong nondisclosure agreement with the Trump campaign.

00:39:43.000 Now, the nondisclosure with President Trump isn't going to hold because, for public policy reasons, when you leak about the President, unless it's classified material, no judge is going to uphold that.

00:39:52.000 There are First Amendment concerns that come into play when you're giving out information about a public official like the President.

00:39:58.000 When it comes to private information on the campaign trail, then Steve very well could have violated the NDA, and there is a significant possibility that Trump could actually have a pretty strong case for violating the NDA in all of these leagues.

00:40:10.000 So that's a problem for Steve.

00:40:12.000 So maybe that's why Steve shut up.

00:40:13.000 Maybe.

00:40:14.000 I mean, we don't know.

00:40:15.000 So that's a possibility.

00:40:16.000 It's also possible, as I say, I think that the more likely scenario is that Steve is just

00:40:22.000 The firestorm yesterday was so intense.

00:40:25.000 It was like the scene at the end of The Last Jedi with the AT-ATs and Luke.

00:40:28.000 Like, it was that yesterday, except Steve was not a hologram and Steve is not a Jedi, so that really did not go well for him yesterday.

00:40:34.000 He ended up looking like Uncle Owen in Aunt Beru in Star Wars Episode IV by the end of yesterday.

00:40:39.000 So, a lot of Star Wars references today.

00:40:41.000 In any case, he doesn't say anything about it.

00:40:46.000 A lot of his allies, he only has a couple of allies in the media, Steve.

00:40:49.000 These are people he's cultivated for years.

00:40:50.000 He cultivated Sean Hannity.

00:40:51.000 He cultivated Laura Ingraham.

00:40:52.000 He cultivated Ann Coulter.

00:40:54.000 He has a habit of cultivating people.

00:40:55.000 And then they were still useful to him, so he hadn't thrown them over yet.

00:40:58.000 Sean is torn because Sean had basically painted Bannon as the ideological sort of avatar of the conservative wing of the White House.

00:41:07.000 I don't know how Sean—honest to God, I don't know how Sean holds that view, given the fact that the White House has gotten more conservative, not less, since Bannon left.

00:41:15.000 I've never understood how Sean has been able to rectify his view of Bannon-esque policy with conservatism, right?

00:41:21.000 I grew up listening to Sean.

00:41:23.000 I grew up watching Sean.

00:41:24.000 I own his books.

00:41:25.000 I'm friendly with Sean.

00:41:26.000 I think Sean's a really good guy.

00:41:27.000 But I've never understood how Sean was able to so easily move into nationalist, populist nonsense when he spends his entire career advocating conservatism.

00:41:35.000 So you'll see Sean try to play the middle road here.

00:41:37.000 He feels bad about just dumping on Bannon.

00:41:40.000 But he also knows that Trump is not going to stand for him not dumping on Bannon.

00:41:43.000 So here is his way.

00:41:44.000 So he tries to blame it on the media.

00:41:45.000 This is always the easy out.

00:41:47.000 It's the media's fault.

00:41:48.000 Except for one problem.

00:41:49.000 Bannon wasn't misquoted.

00:41:50.000 So the easy out here would have been Bannon saying, well, I was misquoted by Michael Wolff, it was all false.

00:41:54.000 Only one problem.

00:41:55.000 Bannon brought Michael Wolff into the White House, sat with him, and taped with him for hours.

00:41:59.000 For hours.

00:42:00.000 And Wolff has the tapes.

00:42:01.000 So here is Sean, desperately trying to avoid condemning Bannon, while also desperately attempting to avoid offending Trump.

00:42:06.000 The media loves, loves Steve Bannon for the moment.

00:42:10.000 They love when Republicans or Conservatives are fighting and create a circular firing squad.

00:42:16.000 In real life, they hate Bannon, and they hate Trump.

00:42:19.000 And, but they'll, you know, right now they'll be supportive of Steve Bannon if he, if they think he's...

00:42:25.000 Advancing their cause.

00:42:27.000 They love these intramural fights.

00:42:28.000 They love palace intrigue.

00:42:30.000 They love to analyze who's up, who's down.

00:42:32.000 It's another example. 0.95

00:42:33.000 The media's priorities are so screwed up.

00:42:35.000 When do they ever talk about you?

00:42:37.000 When do they ever talk about making your life?

00:42:39.000 Okay, so as I've said, I agree with Sean that the media loves this internecine warfare, but the solution to the internecine warfare is to go after the guy who's the leaker!

00:42:47.000 Right, we kept hearing that leakers were bad.

00:42:48.000 There was all this Deep State stuff.

00:42:49.000 You know who was the head of the Deep State leaking in favor of his own interests?

00:42:53.000 The head of the Bannon Deep State was Steve Bannon.

00:42:55.000 Steve Bannon was the Steve Bannon Deep State.

00:42:58.000 And Sean's trying to avoid that implication, but that is the reality.

00:43:00.000 The media doesn't have this material unless Steve, in his self-aggrandizing arrogance, believes that he can leak all this material to the press and get away with it.

00:43:07.000 Laura Ingraham did the same thing last night, slamming Trump and Bannon and saying, well, why do you guys have to fight? 0.89

00:43:11.000 Why do mommy and daddy have to fight? 1.00

00:43:13.000 But, fellas, it doesn't really make sense for a high-profile advisor and his former boss to publicly attack each other when the stakes are this high.

00:43:25.000 How does that make any sense?

00:43:27.000 Okay, well, Laura, let's start with something.

00:43:28.000 Hold on.

00:43:29.000 Hold on one second.

00:43:30.000 Hold on one second.

00:43:31.000 Steve Bannon attacked before Trump did.

00:43:34.000 Okay, all of Trump's fans are always saying that he only hits back.

00:43:38.000 In this case, he did only hit back.

00:43:39.000 It was not Trump hitting Bannon.

00:43:40.000 It was Steve Bannon hitting Trump, doing it publicly, hitting his kids, suggesting there was actual crime committed inside the Trump campaign, which would lead to the impeachment of the president.

00:43:48.000 According to Michael Wolff's book, he was leaking to Michael Wolff that he thought there was a one-third chance of impeachment and one-third chance of resignation, and a one-third chance Trump finishes his term, and he wanted to run for president to replace Trump.

00:43:59.000 If you are a fan of Trump, if you want Trump to succeed, how in the world are you still holding out for Steve Bannon after that?

00:44:05.000 How in the world are you holding out for Bannon?

00:44:07.000 In what world have I become more pro-Trump than a lot of the Trumpites who are now trying to defend Steve Bannon?

00:44:14.000 First of all, there aren't very many of them.

00:44:16.000 And all of the ones who are think of themselves as personal friends of Bannon. 0.95

00:44:19.000 But for Laura to draw moral equivalence between Trump and Bannon in this fight is just ridiculous. 1.00

00:44:22.000 This is on Bannon, pure and simple.

00:44:24.000 Trump is right to smack him, and Trump did the right thing by taking him down at least a thousand pegs here.

00:44:30.000 I'm leaving him a smoldering husk of humanity.

00:44:33.000 Listen, am I happy that he did this on a personal level?

00:44:36.000 Yes, I am.

00:44:36.000 Because I think Steve Bannon is a bad man.

00:44:38.000 I'm not going to hide it.

00:44:39.000 I think Steve is a bad man who did bad things, sided with bad people, made good people's lives miserable, used those bad people to target his opponents.

00:44:46.000 I think Steve is a very bad influence on the president of the United States. 1.00

00:44:49.000 I think the president is much better off that he's no longer associated with this piece of crap. 0.98

00:44:52.000 But with all of that said, I would believe that whether or not I knew Steve Bannon. 0.97

00:44:57.000 Steve has not been of net benefit to this presidency, and I dare anyone to name me a way, one way, in which Steve Bannon has been of net benefit to the President of the United States.

00:45:07.000 Do you really believe that Trump wouldn't have won if Bannon hadn't joined the campaign?

00:45:10.000 Do you really think that?

00:45:11.000 Because you'll have to explain to me how that works, considering that Bannon never did anything with the campaign.

00:45:15.000 In any case, I want to get to some things I like and some things that I hate, but that's a lot of Bannon for one day, and hopefully that will be one of the last times we have to mention Steve Bannon on air. 0.63

00:45:24.000 Good riddance to bad rubbish.

00:45:26.000 Alrighty, time for some things I like and some things I hate, and then we'll do a little bit of Bible talk in which I will mention Steve Bannon. 0.60

00:45:31.000 So, things I like.

00:45:32.000 Let's begin there.

00:45:34.000 Adam Driver has become, maybe I just didn't know about him, he's a really good actor.

00:45:39.000 Like, Adam Driver's a very good actor.

00:45:40.000 He's the only thing that makes Last Jedi worth watching, I think, is Adam Driver's performance as Kylo Ren.

00:45:45.000 Kylo could have been a whiny, annoying character, and instead he really makes him quite interesting.

00:45:51.000 I think that Adam, and if you watch Adam Driver in anything, the guy can do anything.

00:45:55.000 There's a movie called Logan Lucky.

00:45:58.000 Stephen Soderbergh.

00:46:14.000 We're good.

00:46:32.000 He's terrific in it.

00:46:33.000 Here's a little bit of the preview of Logan Lucky, which is definitely worth the rental.

00:46:37.000 It's a fun movie.

00:46:37.000 It's just a fun popcorn movie with some really good... It really is not an action movie, per se.

00:46:44.000 It's much more just a heist movie.

00:46:46.000 And it's a top 10 heist movie, I'd say.

00:46:48.000 Maybe a top 5 heist movie.

00:46:49.000 It's really that good.

00:46:59.000 Jimmy, I'm just gonna say it.

00:47:00.000 I gotta let you go.

00:47:05.000 You were just fired.

00:47:07.000 I was let go for liability reasons involving insurance.

00:47:12.000 The one-armed bartender.

00:47:13.000 You need to show a little respect.

00:47:18.000 Charlotte Motor Speedway.

00:47:23.000 Okay, the preview itself is, the movie itself is really good.

00:47:25.000 Adam Driver is a revelation.

00:47:27.000 I've seen him in three or four different films now, and he inhabits characters in a way that, really, there are very few actors who inhabit a character.

00:47:34.000 Like, I actually think Channing Tatum does in this movie, too.

00:47:37.000 I think Channing Tatum's actually quite good as well.

00:47:38.000 But Adam Driver, I can't speak highly enough about his ability to perform.

00:47:44.000 Really, it's pretty incredible.

00:47:45.000 As an actor,

00:47:47.000 Like Christian Bale, when you're watching a Christian Bale movie, you don't actually see Christian Bale, you just see the character that Christian Bale is playing, which is the opposite of movie stars like Jack Nicholson, where no matter what part he's playing, he's Jack Nicholson playing the part.

00:47:57.000 I think even Meryl Streep has that problem. 0.99

00:47:59.000 When you watch Adam Driver, you're like, wait, is that Adam Driver?

00:48:02.000 Even though he's not wearing any makeup or prosthetics or anything?

00:48:05.000 You go, oh yeah, that is Adam Driver.

00:48:06.000 Like, that's Kylo Ren, but he's a completely different character.

00:48:09.000 Really, really good in this film.

00:48:11.000 Check it out.

00:48:11.000 It's a fun movie to watch.

00:48:12.000 Hilary Swank has kind of a fun bit part.

00:48:14.000 And Daniel Craig is also a lot of fun in the movie.

00:48:17.000 Okay, so a couple of things that I hate.

00:48:22.000 There is a phenomenon that is now taking place that I don't really know how to describe.

00:48:28.000 It is a phenomenon where

00:48:30.000 People get so used to the government taking care of them, they get so used to a regime of regulation that they forget how to be normal human beings.

00:48:37.000 This is a criticism that a lot of people on the right have had for a long time, is that every time the government passes a law and makes you dependent on that law, every time the government does something where they essentially tell you what to do and what you can't do,

00:48:53.000 When they tell you you can't do something, then they fill it in with government regulation, then you start to think you can't do it yourself.

00:48:58.000 This is what happened with welfare.

00:49:00.000 People started being able to receive a check for being a single mother, and so people said, well, maybe I don't need to marry a guy, right?

00:49:05.000 Incentives change.

00:49:07.000 And government can enervate you.

00:49:09.000 Government can turn you into a mewling droop of humanity.

00:49:12.000 Government can turn you into a dependent of the state.

00:49:15.000 The most obvious example is in the last couple of days.

00:49:18.000 In Oregon, there was a law.

00:49:20.000 I used to work for a company that was based in southern Oregon, so I recall this.

00:49:23.000 There was a law in Oregon that you are not allowed to pump your own gas.

00:49:28.000 Really, this was a law, that you had to have an attendant pump your gas.

00:49:30.000 Like, it's 1953, and you're pulling into the drive-in.

00:49:33.000 They'd have somebody come over to your car and pump your gas. 0.88

00:49:35.000 And the first time it happens, you're like, oh, this is kind of nice.

00:49:37.000 And the second time it happens, you're like, this would be a lot quicker if I could just hop out of my car and pump my own gas.

00:49:41.000 We, who have been growing up in regular America, where you pump your own gas since, like, the 1920s,

00:49:46.000 We've been thinking, well, what's up with this law?

00:49:49.000 But here's the funny part.

00:49:50.000 So there's a House Bill 2482.

00:49:52.000 It took effect on Monday.

00:49:53.000 And retailers in counties with a population of less than 40,000 are now allowed to have self-service gas pumps.

00:50:00.000 Drivers in those 15 counties can now pump their own gas any time of day, while in those other three rural counties, they can do so after business hours, between 6 p.m.

00:50:07.000 and 6 a.m.

00:50:07.000 It was a make-work program.

00:50:09.000 The idea was, there are a bunch of un-hireables, except for pumping gas, and so we will actually make a law preventing you from pumping your own gas.

00:50:16.000 But the result was, thousands of people who don't know how to pump their own gas and think they're gonna light themselves on fire.

00:50:22.000 So these are some of the Facebook posts from these people.

00:50:25.000 Are you ready for this?

00:50:26.000 Because it truly is pretty incredible.

00:50:29.000 Quote, I don't even know how to pump gas, and I'm 62, native Oregonian.

00:50:32.000 I say, no thanks.

00:50:33.000 I don't like to smell like gasoline.

00:50:36.000 I pump my own gas, like, once a week.

00:50:38.000 I don't smell like gasoline after doing it.

00:50:40.000 I don't know what you're talking about.

00:50:41.000 And another woman writes, no, disabled, seniors, people with young children in the car need help.

00:50:45.000 Not to mention getting out of your car with transients around and not feeling safe. 1.00

00:50:48.000 This is a very bad idea.

00:50:49.000 Grrr.

00:50:51.000 Okay, I promise you, there are a lot of disabled senior people with young children and old people and transients in California.

00:50:56.000 Like, we're big on the transients. 0.97

00:50:58.000 No one gets attacked while pumping their gas.

00:51:00.000 Another person writes, This is a service only qualified people should perform!

00:51:07.000 Qualified people!

00:51:07.000 Like, you have to have a state license to pump gas.

00:51:10.000 I will literally park at the pump and wait until someone pumps my gas. 0.98

00:51:13.000 Okay, screw you people who think this.

00:51:16.000 And screw the government for having led people to believe they are incapable of pumping their own gas. 0.64

00:51:20.000 You wonder why we have a population that seems so incapable of performing basic daily functions?

00:51:24.000 Maybe it's because the government tells them they can't.

00:51:26.000 When you have people your entire life telling you you can't do things, this is why I hate so much of the talk about white privilege.

00:51:31.000 The implication being, if you're not white, you can't succeed. 0.86

00:51:33.000 You can.

00:51:33.000 Work hard.

00:51:34.000 Succeed.

00:51:36.000 Basically, when people say that you are a victim, or you're incompetent, there are very few professions where you should need a license.

00:51:43.000 To pump gas is not one of those professions. 0.99

00:51:45.000 It's so ridiculous.

00:51:46.000 But again, it shows that human nature is that when you've been told for years and years and years you can't do something, you actually think you're not qualified to do something. 0.93

00:51:52.000 There are a lot of people in blue states who feel this way about guns.

00:51:55.000 I've never seen a gun.

00:51:56.000 I've never held a gun.

00:51:57.000 Guns are so scary.

00:51:58.000 I could never fire a gun.

00:51:59.000 No, you can.

00:52:00.000 I promise.

00:52:00.000 Like, go to a gun range.

00:52:01.000 Somebody will teach you.

00:52:02.000 Ain't that hard.

00:52:03.000 OK, other things that I hate.

00:52:04.000 Speaking of the ridiculous left, a food safety expert has now warned that there is a raw water trend. 0.57

00:52:11.000 OK, there's a raw water, this is a real thing.

00:52:14.000 OK, there's a New York Times trend piece on Silicon Valley's recent obsession with raw water.

00:52:18.000 According to the Times, demand for unfiltered water is skyrocketing as tech industry insiders develop a taste for water that has not been treated to prevent the spread of bacteria or other contaminants.

00:52:27.000 In San Francisco,

00:52:28.000 Unfiltered, untreated, unsterilized spring water is selling for as much as $61 for a 2.5 gallon jug.

00:52:35.000 There are startups dedicated to untreated water.

00:52:39.000 There are a bunch of people who say that raw water is perfect for people who are extreme about health. 1.00

00:52:44.000 You know how stupid you have to be to believe this? 1.00

00:52:47.000 Not treating water makes people sick. 1.00

00:52:49.000 Why do you think people die of dysentery in third world countries?

00:52:51.000 Why do you think they tell you to bring bottled water when you go to Mexico City?

00:52:53.000 The whole point here is that if you have untreated water, you could die.

00:52:57.000 Virtually every contaminant is neutralized by treatment of water.

00:53:02.000 Why do you think it's imperative that we actually give equipment to people in third world countries so they can boil water and turn it into drinkable? 0.98

00:53:08.000 People in the West are so stupid, we're so dumb, and we've become so prosperous that we now think that going back to primitive ways of living that killed people are more healthy. 0.99

00:53:18.000 This is the same when people say, organic. 1.00

00:53:21.000 Organic will heal you.

00:53:22.000 They say this about pot.

00:53:23.000 Pot's organic.

00:53:23.000 How can it hurt you?

00:53:24.000 Poison ivy's organic too.

00:53:26.000 I wouldn't use it as skin cream. 0.96

00:53:28.000 I'm not saying that pot is poison ivy, but I am saying this argument that organics are naturally healthier is just ridiculous. 1.00

00:53:34.000 Cancer is organic, what stupidity. 1.00

00:53:36.000 Okay, final thing that I hate. 1.00

00:53:38.000 Well, actually, sorry, two more things that I hate because I run the show.

00:53:42.000 Okay, here's the first.

00:53:43.000 Keith Ellison, Democrat from Minnesota, he was nearly the head of the Democratic National Committee.

00:53:48.000 He tweeted this out yesterday.

00:53:49.000 Keith Ellison was associated with Louis Farrakhan.

00:53:52.000 Keith Ellison is a radical anti-Semite.

00:53:54.000 Here's what he tweeted.

00:53:55.000 At Moon Palace Books, and I just found the book that strikes fear in the heart of Donald Trump.

00:53:59.000 And it's him holding up a book called Antifa, the anti-fascist handbook.

00:54:03.000 Antifa is basically a domestic terror group.

00:54:05.000 Okay, Antifa, there's tape of Steven Crowder's assistant, not Gay Jared, being offered actual weaponry at one of my lectures by members of Antifa.

00:54:14.000 Antifa break things.

00:54:15.000 Antifa commit acts of violence.

00:54:17.000 Antifa is a, the reason that they call themselves Antifa, they say they are anti-fascist, but then they say by any means necessary, meaning violent means.

00:54:24.000 One of the leading Congress people in the Democratic caucus is now calling for support for a violent leftist group.

00:54:30.000 And then you wonder why we think, why there's been a reactionary move to Trump?

00:54:34.000 This is how you got Trump gang.

00:54:36.000 The final thing that I hate, so President Trump announced on, what was it, Monday?

00:54:42.000 I've completely lost track of all time.

00:54:44.000 I think it was Tuesday, actually.

00:54:45.000 I've lost track of time because every news cycle is now one and a half seconds long.

00:54:48.000 By the end of the show, I assume I will have missed two news cycles.

00:54:52.000 On Tuesday, Trump tweeted out that he was going to have the fake dishonest media news awardsies.

00:54:58.000 On Monday, which I look forward to.

00:54:59.000 5 p.m.

00:55:00.000 on Monday.

00:55:01.000 As I say, I hope that he takes over all three broadcast networks to do it.

00:55:04.000 And members of the media don't understand what's happening.

00:55:07.000 So they've been releasing ads trying to troll Trump.

00:55:10.000 So here is the one from Stephen Colbert.

00:55:13.000 And it's a picture of Stephen Colbert looking like he's in Good Night and Good Luck with a series of quotes from Sean Hannity and various other people saying how terrible he is.

00:55:27.000 And a quote from Trump himself, and it's a nomination poster, right?

00:55:30.000 It's like a nomination poster for the Oscars.

00:55:32.000 It says,

00:55:45.000 Okay, so it's a little funny.

00:55:47.000 I'll admit that it's pretty funny.

00:55:50.000 I will also suggest that one of the problems here is that Stephen Colbert actually does disseminate a bunch of left-wing talking points.

00:55:58.000 And if you want to make the case that you're not a left-wing talking points organization, the way you do that is not by trolling Trump about his fake news stuff by saying, we are fake news, right?

00:56:06.000 The only people I understand, you know, Colbert doesn't portray himself as an objective news source.

00:56:12.000 He portrays himself as a comedian.

00:56:13.000 But when he covers news, he is not objective.

00:56:16.000 He was not the only one doing this routine.

00:56:18.000 Like, they revel in this, right?

00:56:19.000 You wonder why Trump could run against Stephen Colbert and win.

00:56:21.000 The reason he ran against Stephen Colbert and won is because Stephen Colbert is running against Trump.

00:56:25.000 They're all running against Trump.

00:56:26.000 But it's not just Colbert.

00:56:27.000 It's also Samantha Bee and Trevor Noah.

00:56:31.000 Here's Samantha Bee.

00:56:32.000 So Samantha Bee tweeted out her own ad.

00:56:35.000 It said, for your consideration, Samantha Bee for shrillest reporting.

00:56:39.000 Which, I mean, I would vote, if she were up for that category, I would certainly vote for that. 0.89

00:56:42.000 And it's a bunch of comments from YouTube commenters.

00:56:46.000 She says, She's not even funny.

00:56:49.000 Like, that one's not even funny.

00:56:56.000 Okay, Colbert is at least funny, but Samantha Bee is just comedy death. 1.00

00:57:01.000 I mean, she's Ebola of comedy. 0.99

00:57:02.000 And then there's Trevor Noah, who's also in an open competition for this.

00:57:06.000 By the way, I should mention,

00:57:08.000 I'm not going to do it so it's live to tape and get cut apart the way that Jonah Goldberg was on The Daily Show.

00:57:13.000 This is always my insistence when I do a show like that.

00:57:15.000 Anyway, Trevor Noah,

00:57:27.000 Put this up as well.

00:57:29.000 Most dishonest and corrupt media awards of the year consideration.

00:57:32.000 And then it's a bunch of quotes.

00:57:33.000 One from Breitbart News, one from Fox & Friends.

00:57:35.000 I'm just disappointed he didn't put one for me.

00:57:37.000 So here's one for Trevor Noah from me.

00:57:39.000 Trevor Noah is in a running gun battle for least funny human being with Samantha Bee.

00:57:43.000 Plus he is a political hack on behalf of the left who has no clue about how American politics actually work.

00:57:47.000 How's that?

00:57:47.000 Might be a little long for the blurb, but there it is.

00:57:50.000 In any case, if these people want to push Trump to greater heights, please continue to do this.

00:57:54.000 Okay, final word.

00:57:55.000 We'll do a little bit of Bible talk today, but this will be a very, very quick Bible talk.

00:57:59.000 So, here it is.

00:58:00.000 This is from Malachim Aleph.

00:58:03.000 Okay, so in English that would be 1 Kings 2-6.

00:58:07.000 Okay, and basically what it says is, it's the story of what David says to Solomon, right as Solomon is about to take over.

00:58:16.000 So David's about to die, and he instructs Solomon to basically kill Yoav, the son of Zeruiah.

00:58:23.000 Okay, so Job, it's spelled J-O-A-B, he was one of his commanders, and he broke a ceasefire that David basically had with his son Absalom.

00:58:37.000 And Joab killed Avner, the son of Ner. 0.92

00:58:40.000 And so David says, listen, I couldn't do anything while I'm alive, because I made a promise I wouldn't touch him.

00:58:44.000 But once I'm dead, you can go after this guy.

00:58:47.000 The reason he said that is because Joab was acting on his own orders.

00:58:51.000 He was basically off on his own, representing Davidism without David.

00:58:57.000 And it didn't go well for him.

00:58:59.000 Maybe Steve should have read First Kings, because there were some lessons in there about how the king actually treats you when you disobey his wishes.

00:59:07.000 His anger may sleep, but not for long.

00:59:09.000 Alrighty, we'll be back here tomorrow with all the latest news, plus the mailbag.

00:59:12.000 So if you're going to subscribe, now's the day to do it.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - January 04, 2018

Trump Destroys Bannon, Salts The Earth | Ep. 446

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