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00:00:21.000Alrighty, so I'm going to explain everything you need to know about President Trump's big move this morning to curb the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program.
00:00:28.000This is President Obama's executive amnesty, and President Trump moves to sort of get rid of it, but sort of not, and we'll explain why this plan really doesn't please anyone.
00:00:38.000There are a couple better ways to do it, especially if you would like to see immigration law enforced, as I would like to see immigration law enforced.
00:00:45.000My long-standing policy on illegal immigration has always been
00:00:48.000That the federal government should be working to remove people, not only criminals, but people who are not of benefit to American society, while leaving the people who are of benefit for American society to the back of the line.
00:00:59.000This has always been my policy on immigration.
00:01:00.000I've never seen why a blanket policy with regard to entire classes of people should be adopted.
00:01:05.000It's never occurred to me why it should be.
00:01:07.000That everyone of a particular age from a particular country should get in or none should be.
00:01:12.000But I'm going to explain why it is that what President Trump did today is not likely to please anyone on any side of the aisle or to finish President Obama's executive amnesty.
00:01:20.000Before I get to any of that, and I think Trump is trying, but before I get to any of that...
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00:03:30.000desperately wanted to win the election and so what he decided to do was give a sop to the hispanic community as he viewed it by basically granting blanket amnesty to so-called dreamers.
00:03:40.000These would be children of illegal immigrants who arrived as children.
00:03:43.000They weren't born in the United States, if they'd been born here they would be citizens, but they were brought to the United States afterward and they were like three or four years old or ten years old when they came here.
00:03:54.000Who were under the age of 16 when they were brought to the United States and below the age of 31, brought into the country by their parents before 2012, granted new legal status.
00:04:05.000Presumably you had to be brought into the country, I guess by, I guess you wouldn't get a permit unless you'd been in the country since 2007 for some continuous period.
00:04:15.000That was the basic rule under the so-called Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, and then there was DAPA, which was a program for their parents, Deferred Action for Parents of Childhood Arrivals.
00:04:25.000Okay, so all of that was put in place by Obama through an executive order.
00:04:30.000This was challenged in court and it was basically struck down because the idea was it's one thing for you to say you're not going to prosecute folks.
00:04:35.000It's another thing for you to give them papers.
00:04:56.000If you give them papers, it's no longer a question of executive branch power.
00:05:00.000Now we're talking about something different.
00:05:02.000We're talking about an affirmative action by the executive branch without legislative approval.
00:05:07.000So DACA had basically been held up by the courts, but none of the people who had applied through the DACA program were being deported.
00:05:15.000And one of the things that happened because of all of this is a lot of people who are illegal immigrants went to the government, registered all their information because they were guaranteed a shot at essentially amnesty if they gave the information.
00:05:25.000The problem was always that if there was a situation where the next president was a Republican and decided to walk this back, now the government knew exactly where to find you if you were an illegal immigrant.
00:05:43.000He announced that the administration would stop consideration of new applications for legal status beginning tomorrow.
00:05:52.000So if you were going to apply under DACA for legal status and a work permit, then you can no longer do that starting tomorrow.
00:05:58.000Those whose current permits expire between now and March 5th, 2018, which is next March, can apply for a new two-year permit.
00:06:05.000They must do so before October 5th, so they have to come along, reapply in the next month or so.
00:06:10.000Some so-called dreamers will be granted new legal status, others will not.
00:06:13.000But even after March 5th, which is the deadline for enforcement of DACA, that's the deadline where Trump says, okay, it's the drop-dead date, now we're going to start enforcing the law.
00:06:23.000He really says we're not going to start enforcing the law.
00:06:25.000He says we're not going to hand out new work permits or anything, but the Trump White House says it will not start deporting dreamers in serious numbers, but will continue to follow the Obama administration's focus on criminals.
00:06:35.000So basically nothing changed, except for we're not going to give paperwork to people.
00:06:40.000And there's a little bit more uncertainty if you're a Dreamer.
00:06:42.000Maybe Trump will deport you, maybe he won't.
00:06:56.000Trump campaigned loudly and proudly on the idea that we have to have rule of law and these people have to go.
00:07:01.000It doesn't matter if you were brought here as a child.
00:07:03.000It's sad, but we as a country have a responsibility to fulfill the needs of our citizens before we start fulfilling the needs of other citizens.
00:07:09.000You shouldn't have come here illegally.
00:08:24.000And the courts have largely agreed with that as well.
00:08:26.000The second reason that people disliked Obama's executive amnesty is because they actually didn't like the executive amnesty.
00:08:32.000Not because it was illegally done, not because it was done in piss-poor manner by the executive branch, but because they don't actually want amnesty for DREAMers.
00:09:13.000And it's pretty clear from his policy that he doesn't.
00:09:16.000Because what it really looks like he's doing right now is he is saying that he's going to get rid of DACA in order to push Congress in order to actually enshrine DACA and then maybe as a stop to his base give him funding for the Trump wall.
00:09:26.000So this is the trade that Trump is looking for.
00:09:57.000This plan is not going to please anyone.
00:10:00.000The only people it might please are some of the people who opposed DACA because of the manner in which it was implemented, but they're lefties on immigration.
00:10:21.000And we will pass a piece of amnesty legislation that is actually stronger than what Obama did.
00:10:27.000I think a lot of people in his base are going to be pissed and they have good reason to be pissed off.
00:10:32.000So here's why everybody is going to be angry from all sides on this particular policy.
00:10:36.000For the people who are advocates of getting rid of DACA because they actually don't want DACA, because they want the DREAMers deported, Trump clearly doesn't want to deport the DREAMers.
00:10:44.000And the problem is that Trump has already signaled he doesn't want to deport the DREAMers.
00:10:47.000So imagine you're a member of Congress, and Trump is coming to you and he's saying, listen, I'm going to get rid of DACA.
00:10:52.000I'm getting rid of the executive amnesty, and then I'm going to start deporting people.
00:10:56.000But if you want those people to stay, all you have to do, people, is give me the Trump ball.
00:11:34.000Their easiest solution is to do nothing, because they know that in the end, Trump actually isn't going to implement his new ban.
00:11:39.000Trump isn't actually going to deport all these people.
00:11:41.000So all these Republicans can just sit tight, stay out of the fight, vote for nothing, and then six months pass, and then Trump basically does nothing, and everything goes back to normal, and whatever.
00:12:01.000But Trump wants them to do that so that they'll give him the Trump wall and also because then it's not on him.
00:12:06.000Then it's not Trump's responsibility for not getting rid of the executive amnesty.
00:12:09.000It's all Congress's responsibility for not getting rid of the executive amnesty.
00:12:12.000So basically Trump is kicking the can down the road because he doesn't want to take responsibility for getting rid of the executive amnesty in the first place.
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00:14:28.000They're not going to be happy because they're going to suggest, okay, well, if you're just going to reinstall DACA in the first place, why not just leave Obama's policies in place?
00:14:36.000Why are we going through this whole rigmarole?
00:14:38.000Why are we putting uncertainty in the heads of all these dreamers who are going to get to stay in the first place?
00:14:42.000Why are you destroying the credibility of the party on this question?
00:14:45.000You're not going to get rid of these folks.
00:14:46.000So what exactly is the political move here?
00:14:48.000That's what people like John McCain are saying.
00:14:50.000And on the left, of course, the left is always going to claim that Trump is a racist, sexist, bigot, homophobe, even if Trump didn't actually change anything here.
00:14:56.000And by the way, Trump didn't really change much here.
00:14:58.000Okay, DREAMers are not being deported.
00:15:00.000The White House says that they are only going after what they call criminals.
00:15:42.000He's not willing to say that because he knows his base will go after him.
00:15:45.000And he's also not willing to own his own hardline immigration position, the one that he sold during the campaign, that we're going to deport everybody who's not here illegally.
00:16:40.000That means that all of these Republicans are now going to be forced to go on record with either a very unpopular position with their base or a very unpopular position with the general public.
00:17:23.000What Obama actually did was something very different.
00:17:25.000What he did was he waited for a bunch of states to sue, and then he said, we're not going to defend traditional marriage.
00:17:32.000We're not going to defend it in court.
00:17:33.000I'm not going to make Eric Holder defend traditional marriage in court.
00:17:36.000And then the Supreme Court said, oh well, there's nobody who's actually defending traditional marriage, so we'll strike down traditional marriage.
00:17:41.000This is what Obama did with same-sex marriage.
00:17:45.000Trump could have done exactly the same thing with the executive amnesty.
00:17:49.000Note for note, he could have done the exact same thing.
00:17:52.000All Trump had to do was just wait for all of these lawsuits against DACA to go forward, wait for DACA to be struck down, and then say, listen guys, if you want DACA back, just pass a piece of legislation that includes funding for the Trump wall.
00:18:05.000That would have been his smartest move.
00:18:07.000He could have waited for DACA to be struck down, say nothing, keep his mouth shut, and then he could have gone forward, DACA would have been dead, and now it's up to Congress to fix the problem.
00:18:17.000Instead, Trump has taken this weird position where he struck down DACA on procedural grounds, but not on substantive grounds, and his fans want him to strike it down on substantive grounds.
00:18:53.000So this is actually really bad strategy.
00:18:55.000It's actually very poor strategy, particularly going into a midterm.
00:18:58.000And what it comes from is, for President Trump,
00:19:01.000I think a deep and abiding need not to be the bad guy.
00:19:05.000I mean, this is actually one of the things that's sort of fascinating about President Trump as a person, is that Trump does not want to be the bad guy in any given scenario.
00:19:12.000He doesn't actually like firing people.
00:19:13.000For a guy who likes firing people and plays the bad guy on TV a lot, he doesn't actually like doing the dirty work of punching someone.
00:19:21.000When he got rid of James Comey, he tried to put it on his Deputy Attorney General, Rod Rosenstein.
00:19:26.000When he got rid of Mike Flynn, he tried to make it look like Flynn was resigning.
00:19:30.000When he got rid of Steve Bannon, he tried to make it look like Bannon was resigning.
00:19:34.000Like, every move that Trump makes is designed to shift responsibility to someone else.
00:19:38.000On this one, he's trying to shift responsibility to Congress.
00:19:40.000Well, he could have done that without even getting his hands dirty.
00:19:43.000But what he's doing by doing this so obviously is he's trying to posture for his base, saying, listen, I'd get rid of DACA, but this Congress, you know, it's up to them now.
00:20:05.000And you can see a situation very easily where Speaker Ryan, Mitch McConnell, they actually decide to put forward bills with Democrat support, enshrining DACA, or they decide to let this thing go all the way for six months, and then Trump has the situation back on his hands.
00:20:18.000You can see Congress kick the ball right back to Trump, and then Trump says, well, you know,
00:20:22.000And then we just go on the way we were before.
00:20:24.000If you're Trump's base, I don't know that you can be happy with this.
00:20:27.000Like, if you're gonna be intellectually honest, I don't think that you can be particularly happy with this.
00:20:30.000And again, I'm the guy who wrote the headline a week and a half ago when Trump was talking about getting rid of executive amnesty.
00:20:35.000I'm the guy who a week and a half ago said that that was a good thing worth doing.
00:20:39.000But it's only good and worth doing if you're willing to enforce the law or replace it with a better law.
00:20:44.000It's not worth doing if your entire goal here is just to sort of posture about it and then go right back to the same enforcement policy that Obama had.
00:20:52.000That's not good and it's certainly not a good policy if you want Congress to enshrine executive amnesty as the law.
00:21:00.000It's laid out about as poorly as you can.
00:21:04.000I wish I could say that Trump was doing a beautiful job with this, but I just don't think he is.
00:21:08.000I think that he's unwilling to face up to the conflict inside the Republican Party and take a hard position, so he split the baby.
00:21:13.000Splitting the baby in politics is basically the worst possible strategy, and I want to explain about that in a second, why Republicans have a tendency to split the baby while Democrats really don't.
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00:23:54.000This is what Democrats understand that Republicans don't.
00:23:56.000Democrats understand that when you have power, you have to use it now, and even if it means that you're going to lose it for a little while, you change the nature of the playing field.
00:24:05.000So, when's the last time Republicans had unilateral control of Congress and the presidency, and they passed a major piece of legislation that shifted the groundwork, making it nearly impossible for Democrats to roll back?
00:25:08.000Same thing is true of executive amnesty.
00:25:10.000By Obama moving forward on executive amnesty, he lost Congress in 2014 based on his executive amnesty.
00:25:16.000There's a huge backlash to the executive amnesty, but...
00:25:20.000Because he knew that it was going to shift the groundwork, that it was going to make people feel like there were 800,000 people who had basically been given legal amnesty in the United States.
00:25:30.000He knew that walking that back was going to be damaging for Republicans.
00:25:50.000Instead, Republicans are always fearful of losing power because when you're a conservative, your typical job is to stop Democrats from doing insane things.
00:25:58.000But the problem is that if you think your only job is to stop Democrats from doing insane things, you can only do that so long as you have power.
00:26:04.000Well, you're never going to have power indefinitely.
00:26:06.000That means that if Democrats have power for five minutes, boom, they shift the game.
00:26:10.000The playing field has now been tilted.
00:26:12.000And now you're fighting an even more uphill battle.
00:26:14.000And so you say, OK, well, the playing field's already uphill.
00:26:48.000And the new immigration law that we are going to enforce is that if you are not here and of benefit to the United States, you're gone.
00:26:55.000That'd be a very difficult policy for Democrats to fight because most people in the United States believe that on a fundamental level.
00:27:01.000But Trump isn't willing to do that because he's afraid of the bad headlines.
00:27:04.000And he doesn't want to be the bad guy.
00:27:06.000And the same thing is true of Republicans in Congress.
00:27:07.000Basically, Republicans are a bunch of cowards on this issue, just like they are cowards on a number of issues, and they are not willing to take a hard and fast political position because they're afraid of the blowback if they do, which will give Democrats back power, and then Democrats will move faster.
00:27:20.000What they fail to see is that if you do not expend political capital, you can never shift the playing field back in your direction in any serious way.
00:27:28.000So this is a serious problem, and I'm not sure that Republicans know how to fix it.
00:27:34.000I want to talk about North Korea as well, because over the weekend, this DACA news, this executive amnesty news, has obviously shifted the political discussion, but the actual biggest news over the weekend was that North Korea tested out a hydrogen bomb, which is pretty shocking.
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00:29:30.000He decided to make a second trip down to the storm-torn region and hand out supplies and do some photo ops, which is stuff that is good for him, obviously.
00:29:39.000Here's some video of Trump in Louisiana.
00:29:42.000You can see this enormous crowd that showed up for Trump.
00:29:46.000And here he is in one of the trucks, shaking hands with people.
00:31:11.000All of this tape for Trump is very good.
00:31:13.000And you can see that the left are losing their mind because anytime Trump does something that's good for Trump, the left think that this is the end of the world.
00:31:19.000So Joy Reid over on MSNBC, she was very angry because Trump says he's going to give a million dollars to Hurricane Harvey relief.
00:31:25.000And here she is whining that it's not enough money.
00:31:28.000His million-dollar pledge is also dwarfed by the efforts of celebrities like Beyonce and J.J.
00:31:33.000Watt, who have launched their own fundraising campaigns, with Watt raising $16 million and counting.
00:31:40.000Okay, so, uh, you know, there she is ripping him.
00:31:42.000And then Gabe Sherman, uh, from New York Magazine, he comes out and says, the big problem here is that Trump is really trying just to avoid responsibility for the Mueller investigation.
00:31:50.000That as the Mueller-Russia investigation goes on, he doesn't want focus on that, so he's going over to Hurricane Harvey land.
00:31:55.000This is just, again, this shows how crazy the left is.
00:31:57.000When the left is this crazy, folks, that's an indication that Trump is winning.
00:32:14.000He went down to Louisiana and Texas and did some photo-opping and the left is trying to suggest why this is bad and having a tough time of it.
00:32:22.000This is a desperate effort by this White House to come up with a new storyline because the story that Donald Trump doesn't want the world focused on is the Robert Mueller investigation, which we know from new reporting this week that is moving ahead at rapid-fire speed.
00:32:37.000He's teamed up with New York State Attorney General Eric Schneiderman.
00:32:40.000I mean, this is a perilous time for this president.
00:32:42.000So having any kind of visual or optics where he's in Texas is his effort to turn that corner.
00:32:48.000Okay, so this idea that the left is going after Trump for stuff that is completely unobjectionable, it demonstrates that Trump had political capital.
00:32:55.000Now, you would assume that Trump might use that political capital to do something big or politically popular, and instead, he decided to do this sort of milquetoast move on the executive amnesty.
00:33:05.000Which is actually designed to, again, re-enshrine the executive amnesty, to make the executive amnesty law.
00:33:10.000That's what Trump's move is explicitly designed to do.
00:33:31.000Listen, I don't agree with his trillion-dollar infrastructure plans.
00:33:34.000But if Trump wanted to do that, would there be a better time than right after a hurricane?
00:33:38.000He could even tie it to the Hurricane Harvey relief funds.
00:33:41.000Instead, it looks like Trump is making minor moves because I really don't get the feeling that he has strong convictions on a lot of these policies.
00:33:49.000You know, Steve Mnuchin was suggesting that Congress should tie the Hurricane Harvey relief fund to a debt ceiling increase.
00:33:56.000I mean, again, this president came into office complaining that the government spent too much money, and now they're going to go out and they're going to borrow some more money.
00:34:03.000Here's Steve Mnuchin as his Secretary of the Treasury.
00:34:06.000Mark Meadows says he does not want to see that disaster aid tied to a bill to raise the debt limit.
00:34:12.000Can you guarantee him and others that that won't happen?
00:34:30.000And to do that, we need to make sure we raise the debt limit.
00:34:33.000So if Congress appropriates the money, but I don't have the ability to borrow more money and pay for it, we're not going to be able to get that money to the state.
00:34:41.000So we need to put politics aside and we're going to be urging Congress to get both of those things done as quickly as they can.
00:35:14.000Meanwhile, on the international scene, the North Koreans did a nuclear test that actually created a 6.3 earthquake.
00:35:23.000That's how large this hydrogen bomb was.
00:35:25.000So they now have an H-bomb and they are suggesting that they can affix it to the tip of these ICBMs that they've been test firing and that are capable of reaching the United States.
00:35:33.000President Trump had a series of tweets on this over the weekend.
00:35:44.000And he continued, And then he finished by saying,
00:35:58.000Again, I don't want to criticize Trump too much because I don't think that this was, it's not a problem of his making, it's a problem of Clinton's making, it's a problem of every president since Truman's making is North Korea.
00:36:10.000But when he says things like South Korea is finding that their appeasement doesn't work, only one thing works, what's the one thing?
00:36:22.000So Trump was suggesting over the weekend that he's going to actually lead sanctions on any country that does business with North Korea.
00:36:27.000The problem is that I'm not sure that he's actually willing to implement that because it would cause a pretty significant financial strain.
00:36:42.000In South Korea, pointed at North Korea.
00:36:44.000Basically, use the anti-Soviet strategy in order to get North Korea to calm down.
00:36:50.000Let them know that if you were to nuke any of these places, they have the immediate backlash.
00:36:55.000Capacity that it's not a question of whether they would nuke they would I think that's right He also suggested that we take financial measures against China.
00:37:02.000I think that's right as well But when Trump is going after South Korea, I don't really see that as being particularly a smart move Also, Trump is threatening to end a trade agreement with the South Koreans in the middle of a conflict with the North Koreans I don't understand how alienating the South Korean government is a really smart strategy at this point
00:37:21.000Trump is talking about withdrawing from a trade deal.
00:37:23.000Again, one of the reasons South Korea is working with us and not China is because we have a trade relationship with them.
00:37:28.000If we don't, then presumably South Korea could start working with China, and China's sphere of influence could grow under the North Korean nuclear umbrella.
00:37:35.000None of that makes a whole hell of a lot of sense.
00:37:39.000Again, I think that President Trump, he says this is a big week.
00:38:17.000It's called The Black Swan by Nassim Nicholas Taleb.
00:38:23.000It's all about why we spend all of our lives trying to discern the systems behind predictable events, but the events that actually change our lives in major ways are highly improbable and unpredictable events.
00:38:35.000And that's why we have to plan for those as well.
00:38:37.000So how do you plan for the unpredictable?
00:38:39.000Well, one of the ways is you have a certain amount of your assets, for example, in the financial market, you have a certain amount of your assets in really, really predictable, safe assets, and then you take a certain percentage and you put them in high-risk things because one of those risks could come up green and all of a sudden you're making a billion dollars.
00:38:56.000That's sort of his investment strategy.
00:38:57.000When it comes to planning for foreign policy, the same thing.
00:39:00.000You should try and think of every possible contingency, because the fact is that there are going to be some things that happen that you don't know about.
00:39:05.000Like I think, for example, that the risk of North Korea nuking us is actually much lower than the risk of Pakistan initiating a nuclear war at this point, because I think North Korea knows that they don't want to be destroyed.
00:39:15.000Right now, there's a better chance that the Pakistani government follows to
00:39:19.000Falls to the Taliban, for example, and suddenly you have the Taliban in charge of nuclear weapons and they don't care.
00:39:25.000So, you know, the black swan is a really interesting way of looking at the world that most people don't think about.
00:39:29.000Talks about sort of what happens if all of life's events are identifiable on a bell curve.
00:39:36.000And most of those events happen in the center of the bell curve.
00:39:38.000The black swan is about why the events that happen all the way out here, on the ends of the bell curve, those are the ones that really determine the fate of countries and the fate of individual lives.
00:41:01.000This routine where a guy who is known to have had affairs as a reverend, who's been involved in alleged criminal activity for many years, you know, this is...
00:41:13.000Him being the great judge of who goes into heaven or not, it seems to me a little bit of a stretch.
00:41:17.000I have my criticisms of Trump on a personal level, but whether he goes to heaven or not seems to me much more of a God decision than a Jesse Jackson decision.
00:41:26.000There's this tape that's going around, and these are going around now all the time on the internet.
00:41:30.000These parents who are looking for attention, and a media willing to grant it to them, they've decided to destroy the lives of their children.
00:41:36.000These parents took an 8-year-old boy and made him into a drag queen.
00:41:40.000And then all of the media decided to trumpet this as just the bravery of the parents.
00:41:46.000It's not like you're talking about a 15-year-old boy.
00:41:49.000You're talking about an 8-year-old who's not even hit puberty yet, and you're destroying his life because guess what his school's gonna be like next year?
00:41:55.000Guess what it's gonna be like when all the kids at school say, like, is he actually a girl?
00:42:00.000No, he's just a boy who likes dressing as a girl.
00:42:02.000This kid could grow out of this stage.
00:42:05.000I mean, why would you—like, I think that it's actually nasty for parents to post stuff of their kids on the internet at pretty much any point, because kids deserve privacy.
00:42:12.000They're still figuring out who they are.
00:42:13.000And here you are making your kid into a mockery in order for you to feel good about yourself as though you're some sort of tolerant parent because your eight-year-old wanted to do something.
00:43:54.000I think that this is... I think this is a mom who is very screwed up, screwing up her kid from the time the kid is two, because she wants attention.
00:44:00.000And how do I know she wants attention?
00:44:02.000Because now I'm going to say something that is stereotypical but true.
00:44:05.000Okay, if you wear giant... If you wear giant nose rings, and you have tattoos across your chest, and you wear low-cut things to demonstrate the tattoos across your chest, I'm going to go out on a limb here.
00:44:18.000You're not somebody who is an introvert.
00:44:21.000Taking an eight-year-old and suggesting that an eight-year-old is capable of making decisions about the rest of his life before he's even had a sexual feeling is just... It's just devastating.
00:44:46.000The moment a society decides parents are not to be parents but children are to be adults and adults should act like children, this society is done.
00:44:55.000I'd like to see what President Trump has to say.
00:44:57.000I'm sure there will be more fallout from his decision about executive amnesty and we'll see whether the right wing is willing to go along with him or whether they are going to make a more honest assessment of what this policy actually is.