The Ben Shapiro Show - Trump Meets Biden At The White House!

00:00:00.000 Well, folks, Trump to electric boogaloo is upon us.

00:00:03.000 So much news.

00:00:04.000 It's like drinking from a fire hose.

00:00:06.000 We'll get to that in a moment.

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00:00:23.000 All righty.

00:00:24.000 So, lots of news.

00:00:25.000 Yesterday, President Trump went over to the Hill.

00:00:28.000 He had many visits, did Mr. Trump, in Washington.

00:00:31.000 So he began by going to the House of Representatives, where he was met with raucous applause, of course.

00:00:36.000 Everybody very excited over in the House.

00:00:38.000 Certainly, President Trump's coattails helped retain the House majority, which is incredibly slim.

00:00:43.000 That's going to make a difference when you talk about some of the cabinet appointments he's making.

00:00:46.000 But he is responsible for House performance.

00:00:50.000 He's responsible for additional Senate seats for the Republicans.

00:00:54.000 President Trump had coattails.

00:00:55.000 So he started his visit to Washington, D.C. with a House GOP leadership forum.

00:01:01.000 A brief video from that House GOP leadership forum showed an excited President Trump talking about how much fun it was to win.

00:01:09.000 Well, thank you very much.

00:01:11.000 This is a very nice gathering.

00:01:12.000 Isn't it nice to win?

00:01:14.000 It's nice to win.

00:01:16.000 It's always nice to win.

00:01:18.000 A lot of good friends in this room.

00:01:21.000 So, you know we had, like, historic kind of numbers, especially for the President, but we won't get into that.

00:01:29.000 Obviously the president in an excellent mood.

00:01:31.000 He then went up to the White House and he was only the second happiest man in the room.

00:01:35.000 So I'm not sure I've ever seen Joe Biden this day.

00:01:40.000 It's so good.

00:01:41.000 It's so good.

00:01:42.000 Okay, so if you go all the way back to 2016, when President Trump beat Hillary Clinton and then had to go to the White House and meet Barack Obama, and Barack Obama was clearly deeply perturbed by meeting with Donald Trump, the opposite is now true.

00:01:57.000 Joe Biden despises Kamala Harris, despises her.

00:02:00.000 So does Joe Biden.

00:02:01.000 There is no question that both of them voted for Donald Trump.

00:02:04.000 I have no doubt in my mind that they both voted for Donald Trump.

00:02:07.000 So sitting next to a roaring fire, These two new best friends straight from Zawatoneo.

00:02:15.000 They're sitting next to one another and joking.

00:02:18.000 It's as though Joe Biden didn't actually believe that that guy's Hitler. 1.00

00:02:21.000 Almost as though all of that stuff about Donald Trump being Hitler, he knew it was crap. 0.98

00:02:25.000 Because look how excited Joe Biden is to be there. 0.99

00:02:28.000 Donald Trump is joking with him.

00:02:30.000 And behind them, the roaring fire.

00:02:32.000 Just enjoying, you know, a crisp Washington, D.C. morning.

00:02:36.000 Here we go.

00:02:42.000 The media are yelling at both of them.

00:02:43.000 And President Trump's like, get a load of them.

00:02:45.000 And they cut over to Biden.

00:02:48.000 Biden's doing big smiles.

00:02:49.000 Super happy.

00:02:51.000 Look at Joe Biden.

00:02:52.000 What a glorious time he's having.

00:02:54.000 They did release a photo of Jill and Joe with Trump, all grinning broadly.

00:03:00.000 No one is happier in America that Kamala Harris lost than Joe Biden, who was stabbed in the back by Kamala Harris.

00:03:05.000 And then she replaced him.

00:03:06.000 And then she lost.

00:03:07.000 And then everybody blamed Joe Biden anyway.

00:03:09.000 So he is super happy.

00:03:10.000 That Donald Trump won.

00:03:11.000 The pictures are just hilarious.

00:03:13.000 The memes have been extraordinary.

00:03:15.000 According to the Washington Post, the two met just after 11 a.m., their first extended meeting since the fumbling debate performance that drove Biden out of the race.

00:03:22.000 For Trump, it marked a triumphant return to an office where he sat for four years, a week after decisively winning an election by relentlessly attacking Joe Biden's mental capacity and then by casting the Biden administration as a disaster.

00:03:32.000 Congratulations, Biden said at the start of the meeting.

00:03:34.000 During the brief time reporters were in the room, he added he hoped it would be a smooth transition.

00:03:38.000 Trump said, politics is tough, and in many cases, it is not a nice world.

00:03:42.000 But it is a nice world today.

00:03:48.000 The meeting stretched for nearly two hours.

00:03:51.000 White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre called it a substantive meeting and exchange of views.

00:03:55.000 She said that Biden said that Trump was gracious and that he came to the meeting with a detailed list of questions.

00:04:02.000 She said, quote, they discussed important national security and domestic policy issues facing the nation and the world.

00:04:06.000 So, again, they've got a new best friend.

00:04:08.000 Maybe Donald Trump will not only pardon Hunter Biden, maybe he'll appoint Joe Biden to a position in his administration.

00:04:14.000 You never know.

00:04:15.000 I mean, Joe Biden was a loyal supporter during the latter part of this campaign.

00:04:20.000 So that was exciting news as well.

00:04:22.000 Well, when all of the morning festivities were over and the enjoyment was done, then it was time to unveil more picks for the cabinet.

00:04:28.000 And things got a little spicy.

00:04:30.000 So there have been a lot of rumors floating out of Mar-a-Lago that perhaps the Marco Rubio nomination for Secretary of State It was being held up for some reason.

00:04:39.000 Those rumors were put to bed today when President Trump released a statement picking Marco Rubio formally.

00:04:44.000 He said, quote, It is my great honor to announce that Senator Marco Rubio of Florida is hereby nominated to be the United States Secretary of State.

00:04:50.000 Marco is a highly respected leader and a very powerful voice for freedom.

00:04:52.000 He'll be a strong advocate for our nation, a true friend to our allies, and a fearless warrior who will never back down to our adversaries.

00:04:57.000 I look forward to working with Marco to make America and the world safe and great again.

00:05:02.000 And it's funny, there are a lot of people who are, you I'm a little upset about Marco Rubio, which I frankly don't understand because Marco Rubio is just a simple advocate of peace through strength.

00:05:10.000 See, there is such a thing as a Trump doctrine.

00:05:13.000 There was a Bush doctrine that emerged after 9-11, which was about spreading freedom in the world.

00:05:17.000 That is not the Trump doctrine.

00:05:18.000 It's not Wilsonian in any way.

00:05:20.000 In fact, the Trump doctrine is really simple.

00:05:22.000 So President Trump came on my show a couple of weeks before the election, and he said, quote, Our policy is very simple.

00:05:27.000 Peace through strength.

00:05:28.000 We had no wars.

00:05:29.000 I'm not an isolationist.

00:05:30.000 I helped a lot of countries.

00:05:31.000 I kept countries out of war.

00:05:33.000 Well, if you were going to express this in a few key propositions, the Trump doctrine, there'd probably be four.

00:05:38.000 So the first proposition would be that America's interests come first. 0.73

00:05:41.000 America first.

00:05:42.000 America's interests are paramount.

00:05:44.000 Now, America first doesn't mean that we ignore the rest of the world.

00:05:47.000 It turns out that a lot of American interests are bound up in what's going on in the rest of the world.

00:05:51.000 So, for example, if the sea lanes are threatened, that is a big problem for America.

00:05:55.000 We rely on the freedom of the seas in order to ensure a free and open market economy so we can sell our goods, so we can receive the inputs, and so that we can trade with our friends and business partners.

00:06:05.000 Freedom of the seas.

00:06:06.000 That means we have to be involved in the world.

00:06:08.000 Or if you have American opponents who are solidifying their grasp on resources or on allies or threatening war.

00:06:16.000 These are things where America does have a voice.

00:06:18.000 So America's interests come first. 0.51

00:06:21.000 Now, that brings us to point number two.

00:06:24.000 Second, America's interests actually have to be carefully calibrated to our investment in them.

00:06:28.000 So what that means is we have to be very serious about how strong are our interests in an area.

00:06:32.000 So something's bad happening somewhere in the world.

00:06:35.000 And maybe it's not like amazing for America, but it doesn't really affect Americans in a serious way, either near term or long term.

00:06:40.000 How much do we invest in that issue?

00:06:43.000 The Trump doctrine says, well, you calibrate the amount that you invest in that issue to the importance of the issue to the American voter and to the American citizen.

00:06:51.000 If we have a very weak interest in whether there's a democracy in a far-flung place that doesn't affect America, well, then we probably are not going to devote serious resources to that place because that is not a core American interest.

00:07:03.000 And Wilsonian bromides about democracy and freedom don't make up for a lack of American interests in these places, right?

00:07:09.000 This is one of the things that separates the Trump doctrine from the sort of freedom everywhere Bush doctrine that neoconservatives, so-called neoconservatives, pushed during the Bush administration.

00:07:19.000 The Trump doctrine says that all resources are scarce resources.

00:07:22.000 Money is a scarce resource.

00:07:24.000 American military power is a scarce resource.

00:07:26.000 And the most scarce resource of all is, of course, American blood.

00:07:29.000 The blood of our heroes who are out there fighting.

00:07:31.000 We don't want to waste that on things that don't matter an awful lot to us.

00:07:35.000 And we shouldn't deceive ourselves about how rough war is.

00:07:38.000 War is incredibly rough.

00:07:39.000 And that means that expending those resources in the wrong places is a mistake.

00:07:43.000 That's principle number two.

00:07:44.000 Principle number one was America's interests come first. 0.92

00:07:47.000 Principle number two is carefully calibrate what kind of resources you wish to expend to meet the strength of the American interest in these places.

00:07:57.000 Third, once you've decided, you gotta go.

00:08:00.000 Third, all measures and means necessary to achieve America's interests are on the table.

00:08:05.000 So that means if we have to strangle the Iranian economy with sanctions, that's what we do.

00:08:09.000 If it means that Donald Trump has to threaten Kim Jong-un with his little red button, that's what we do.

00:08:14.000 If it means that President Trump has to fire a missile and kill Qasem Soleimani, that's what we do.

00:08:20.000 The ancient Latin adage, which goes something like, civis passam parabellum.

00:08:24.000 If you want peace, prepare for war.

00:08:26.000 That's a basic principle of the Trump Doctrine, meaning you build up, you threaten, you have credible threat of the use of force, and you don't make nice.

00:08:33.000 When it's time for war, you go.

00:08:35.000 When it's time to stack bodies, as the nominee for Secretary of Defense says, you stack the bodies.

00:08:41.000 War is not nice.

00:08:41.000 It's not meant to be nice.

00:08:42.000 In fact, the most humane war is the shortest and the most victorious.

00:08:47.000 So this principle would be, shortly put, F around, find out.

00:08:50.000 That's principle number three.

00:08:52.000 And fourth, we ought to say all these things out loud.

00:08:54.000 We ought to say what America's interests are.

00:08:56.000 We ought to say what sort of means we are willing to use to actually achieve those interests.

00:09:02.000 And we should say out loud that if we go, we are going to go. 0.97

00:09:05.000 We're going to punch you so hard in the face, you will never recover.

00:09:08.000 If we say all those things out loud, then it reduces the risk that somebody is going to misinterpret what it is that we are doing in the world. 0.89

00:09:14.000 Now, I don't see any of those things that Marco Rubio disagrees with.

00:09:17.000 In fact, I don't see any of those things that Mike Walls, the NSA, disagrees with, or John Ratcliffe, the head of the CIA. Or as we'll get to, even Tulsi Gabbard over at DNI. In fact, I don't see very much disagree with there, broadly speaking.

00:09:30.000 Donald Trump's foreign policy team is a peace-through-strength foreign policy team.

00:09:33.000 He said it himself.

00:09:34.000 That's why he picked them.

00:09:36.000 And it's an excellent, excellent foreign policy team.

00:09:39.000 Okay, so Rubio was formally picked yesterday.

00:09:43.000 That was not the only pick.

00:09:44.000 He also announced that he was going to be picking Tulsi Gabbard.

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00:12:10.000 So Tulsi Gabbard, of course, is a more controversial pick because she's a former Democrat. 0.99

00:12:15.000 Because there is a lot of kind of ill will back in 2019.

00:12:19.000 She made some statements about the Assad regime, suggesting they weren't really America's enemy because we weren't fighting them at the time.

00:12:25.000 And what she meant by that, if you go back and you actually read her comments, was not that Assad was not violating human rights.

00:12:30.000 What she actually said at the time was, yes, Assad is violating human rights, but we don't have a significant American interest in what's going on over there.

00:12:37.000 She's also taken a more dovish perspective on the Russia-Ukraine war, for example.

00:12:41.000 She believes that it was Western encroachments in Ukraine via the attempt to enter Ukraine into the EU and into NATO that led to Russia making its move to invade.

00:12:52.000 So she's got more controversial foreign policy views as opposed to some of the more traditionalist.

00:12:56.000 But the reason that Donald Trump is picking her for DNI is not really because of those foreign policy views.

00:13:01.000 The director of national intelligence, that position coordinates between the CIA and the FBI. That's what that position is.

00:13:08.000 So he's putting her as part of the intel community.

00:13:09.000 Why?

00:13:10.000 Well, because Tulsi Gabbard knows really, really well how many people have been targeted falsely by the intel community, including President Trump during his first term.

00:13:18.000 In fact, she herself was apparently, according to her, put on a terror watch list just a couple of months ago.

00:13:24.000 Well, now she's in charge of the DNI, so I would assume she's coming right off that terror watch list.

00:13:29.000 Here is Tulsi Gabbard speaking with Chris Williamson over a Modern Wisdom about the reality of a functioning democracy.

00:13:34.000 And the most troubling part about, there's so many things wrong with this, of course, but really at the most fundamental level, you look at, you know, our country is the oldest democracy in the world.

00:13:48.000 But the reality of a truly functioning and thriving democracy that has brought to life the vision that our founders had for us, that we really have a government of, by, and for the people, and that we have the ability and responsibility for that matter to ensure that the government we have only exists and that we have the ability and responsibility for that matter to ensure that the government

00:14:09.000 That becomes very hard to do, to hold people accountable, when the person that you voted for is certainly not the one making the decisions.

00:14:19.000 Okay, she's pointing out the predations of the bureaucratic state, right?

00:14:22.000 If you vote for a politician and then it ends up being the bureaucracy that rules everything, that's a problem.

00:14:26.000 She had this to say, Tulsi Gabbard, with regard to the intelligence community and the manipulation of the intelligence community.

00:14:32.000 This is back in 2022. 1.00

00:14:35.000 I'll never forget when Chuck Schumer on television warned Trump is an idiot to mess with the intelligence community because they can screw you six ways from Sunday. 1.00

00:14:52.000 The highest ranking Democrat in the U.S. Senate... 1.00

00:14:58.000 Warning the American people, essentially, against messing with the intelligence community because of how badly they can screw you.

00:15:09.000 As though they are some autonomous body of government that is accountable to no one.

00:15:16.000 How can this be America?

00:15:22.000 This goes against the foundation of our government.

00:15:24.000 This goes against these ideals of a government of, by, and for the people.

00:15:29.000 And so the question I've asked myself is, why?

00:15:34.000 Why are they doing this?

00:15:35.000 Why are they working so hard to squash any discussion, squash any debate, squash any questions about whatever war they happen to be wanting to wage at any given time?

00:15:48.000 They're afraid.

00:15:50.000 So, again, the reason that she's being brought in is presumably to cleanse the intelligence agencies of, again, a lot of the dead wood, a lot of the procedures that presumably are allowing for the spying on American citizens.

00:16:01.000 Presumably the FISA courts are going to come under a lot of scrutiny given the fact that the Trump campaign was in fact spied upon by the FISA courts in the 2016 election illegally.

00:16:11.000 It's a big deal to President Trump.

00:16:13.000 That is why he wants somebody like Tulsi Gabbard in there.

00:16:15.000 Now, she might face a bit of a confirmation fight, and the Senate is a fractious place, and the Senate has its own procedures. 1.00

00:16:23.000 Now, President Trump had wanted the ability to sort of make recess appointments willy-nilly.

00:16:28.000 I really don't think that's how this is going to go.

00:16:29.000 He has a Republican Senate.

00:16:30.000 There is no reason he shouldn't be able to get his appointments through so long as they perform decently at their hearings, for example.

00:16:38.000 Tulsi Gabbard, you would imagine that some of the more hawkish senators will have questions about her foreign policy, what it means for how she approaches intelligence policy, for example. 1.00

00:16:46.000 But, again, Tulsi Gabbard, a perfectly expected pick from President Trump.

00:16:50.000 She is, of course, a Democrat who came across the aisle to support him.

00:16:53.000 The most controversial pick of the day was not Tulsi Gabbard.

00:16:56.000 The most controversial pick of the day...

00:16:58.000 Matt Gaetz, Representative Matt Gaetz from Florida.

00:17:00.000 Now, of course, Matt Gaetz is famous for a variety of reasons.

00:17:03.000 He's incredibly colorful, shall we say.

00:17:06.000 Matt Gaetz says a lot of inflammatory things.

00:17:08.000 There's a lot of things for the online crowd.

00:17:11.000 Matt Gaetz, of course, is the one who led a rebellion against then Speaker of the House Kevin McCarthy and basically forced his ouster, not because he thought that McCarthy was doing a horrible job running the House, but But McCarthy suggests, because Gates didn't want him self-investigated, there's all sorts of accusations flying back and forth between McCarthy and Matt Gaetz.

00:17:29.000 It is true that Matt Gaetz is not particularly well-loved by a lot of other members of the House.

00:17:35.000 They think sometimes that he grandstands.

00:17:36.000 There are some things that are true about Matt Gaetz, however.

00:17:39.000 One of those things is that when Matt Gaetz goes, he goes.

00:17:41.000 I think the reason that President Trump wants him as AG is because Matt Gaetz is a passionate advocate against the predations of the DOJ against Donald Trump specifically.

00:17:52.000 Again, he's a very brash figure.

00:17:54.000 Here's Matt Gaetz back at the RNC a few months ago.

00:17:58.000 Under Biden, Harris, America has fallen sicker, lonelier and poorer.

00:18:05.000 Under Trump, we prospered.

00:18:07.000 We were richer.

00:18:08.000 Inflation was low and there were two genders. 1.00

00:18:12.000 The swamp draining will recommence soon and I will be President Trump's strongest ally in Congress to pass term limits.

00:18:22.000 To stop!

00:18:23.000 Taxpayer funding for political campaigns to ban members of Congress for life from becoming lobbyists and for the same reason you don't let the referee bet on the game ban members of Congress from trading individual stocks.

00:18:40.000 We are on a mission to rescue and save this country and we ride or die with Donald John Trump to the end.

00:18:48.000 Thank you all so much.

00:18:49.000 Thank you for having my back.

00:18:51.000 Let's go get him.

00:18:52.000 Again, President Trump is looking for loyalty in his picks.

00:18:55.000 He can expect that, I think, from anybody that he appoints, given the fact that there is a unitary executive branch.

00:19:00.000 Here's Matt Gaetz going after the Department of Justice for targeting President Trump.

00:19:04.000 Again, this is just a few months back.

00:19:07.000 You can clear it all up for us right now.

00:19:09.000 Will the Department of Justice provide to the committee all documents, all correspondence between the department and Alvin Bragg's office and Fannie Willis' office and Letitia James' office?

00:19:21.000 The offices you're referring to are independent offices of state.

00:19:26.000 I get that.

00:19:27.000 The question is whether or not you will provide all of your documents and correspondence.

00:19:30.000 That's the question.

00:19:31.000 I don't need a history lesson.

00:19:34.000 Well, I'm going to say again.

00:19:37.000 We do not control those offices.

00:19:39.000 They make their own decisions.

00:19:40.000 The question is whether you communicate with them, not whether you control them.

00:19:42.000 Do you communicate with them and will you provide those communications?

00:19:44.000 You make a request.

00:19:45.000 We'll refer it to our Office of Legislative Affairs.

00:19:47.000 But see, here's the thing.

00:19:48.000 You come in here and you lodge this attack that it's a conspiracy theory that there is coordinated lawfare against Trump.

00:19:55.000 And then when we say, fine, just give us the documents, give us the correspondence, and then if it's a conspiracy theory, that will be evident.

00:20:02.000 But when you say, well, we'll take your request, and then we'll sort of work it through the DOJ's accommodation process, then you're actually advancing the very dangerous conspiracy theory that you're concerned about.

00:20:14.000 Again, Gates is very bright.

00:20:16.000 He's a very loud advocate for President Trump.

00:20:19.000 That's presumably why Trump wants him in there.

00:20:21.000 By the way, if he actually gets confirmed, half the DOJ just resigns the next day.

00:20:25.000 So Trump's not even going to have to fire anybody.

00:20:26.000 Everybody's just going to resign.

00:20:28.000 So that's the upside.

00:20:29.000 Whether he gets through a confirmation battle is another question.

00:20:32.000 There are already several senators who have come out expressing serious doubts about Matt Gaetz, it's very questionable just on a raw level whether he is going to get through that confirmation process.

00:20:41.000 Again, I do not think that it is likely that the Senate is going to go to recess in order to allow President Trump to make recess appointments when, again, the Republicans have a majority.

00:20:51.000 Right now, for example, Matt Gaetz remains under continued investigation by the House Committee on Ethics over allegations of sexual misconduct, illegal drug use, and other allegations.

00:20:59.000 He continues to deny any wrongdoing.

00:21:02.000 Suffice to say, a lot of senators, a lot of congresspeople are discomfited by Gates as the pick.

00:21:07.000 President Trump's announcement says, quote, Few issues in America are more important than ending the partisan weaponization of our justice system.

00:21:26.000 Matt will end weaponized government, protect our borders, dismantle criminal organizations, and restore America's badly shattered faith and confidence in the Justice Department.

00:21:33.000 On the House Judiciary Committee, which performs oversight of DOJ, Matt played a key role in defeating the Russia-Russia-Russia hoax and exposing alarming and systemic government corruption and weaponization.

00:21:42.000 He's a champion for Constitution and the rule of law.

00:21:46.000 Now again, you can see exactly why Trump picked him.

00:21:48.000 With that said, it's going to be a rough road for him in the confirmation battle because there are a lot of Republicans who look at the allegations surrounding him or they look at the sort of fractious way that he approached his fellow members of Congress.

00:21:59.000 This sort of stuff does matter in confirmation hearings.

00:22:02.000 That is an uphill battle for President Trump.

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00:24:18.000 Now, that may have some sort of unintended good consequences, by the way.

00:24:22.000 If it turns out that the entire Senate expends all of its ire, On Matt Gaetz, it means that some of the other supposedly controversial nominees, like, for example, Pete Hegseth for Secretary of Defense, who's a terrific pick, would probably get through relatively unscathed.

00:24:35.000 Because if you're a Republican and you're going to reject one of Trump's picks and you have to prioritize, there are some Republicans in the Senate who are going to prioritize Gaetz over Hegseth.

00:24:43.000 That would not be a giant shock.

00:24:45.000 So there may be some unintended side effects of Gates's nomination, even if he doesn't pass through the confirmation process.

00:24:51.000 However, that is definitely going to be Trump's hardest pick in terms of getting that nominee through a Senate that is fairly closely divided.

00:24:58.000 Remember, the Republicans in the Senate only hold 53 seats.

00:25:00.000 So all it takes is four Republican senators dropping off and Gates is toast.

00:25:04.000 Already you have a multiplicity of senators who have signaled their discomfort with the idea of Matt Gaetz as Attorney General.

00:25:10.000 By the way, if it doesn't end up being Matt Gaetz, Donald Trump has a wide plethora of different attorneys on the Republican side of the aisle who will be just as aggressive as Matt Gaetz in that position.

00:25:21.000 Again, Gaetz may get confirmed.

00:25:22.000 All I'm saying is that even if he's not, it's not like a mispick by Trump.

00:25:25.000 It's not like Trump did something terribly wrong here.

00:25:27.000 It just means that Gates would not be the guy.

00:25:29.000 It would be someone else who would give you most of the benefits and maybe not some of the drawbacks that Matt Gates apparently presents to some of his colleagues.

00:25:37.000 Matt Gates, by the way, has already resigned his seat effective immediately.

00:25:40.000 There's a lot of speculation about why that is.

00:25:42.000 Is he trying to still avoid this House investigation?

00:25:45.000 What is it his...

00:25:47.000 The one that he gave to Mike Johnson is that he's trying to resign early so that Governor DeSantis in Florida can declare an early election as fast as possible because there's about an eight-week period to select and fill in a vacancy.

00:25:59.000 And so the idea would be that if he resigns now, then his seat gets filled by another Republican.

00:26:03.000 He's in a solid our district before this begins to be a problem for the Republican majority in Congress.

00:26:08.000 That would be the justification Gates is giving.

00:26:10.000 Now, meanwhile...

00:26:12.000 The congressional elections went forward yesterday.

00:26:14.000 There was a lot of focus on the possibility that John Thune would be stopped as the majority leader.

00:26:18.000 That did not happen.

00:26:19.000 And I think there's a bit of confusion about what the Senate majority leader does.

00:26:23.000 The Senate majority leader, as I've been saying, is not a Newt Gingrich figure.

00:26:26.000 It's not a matter of just presenting a Republican vision.

00:26:28.000 It's a matter of trying to cobble together majorities out of very, very slim majorities, and then getting 80% of what you want.

00:26:36.000 So, in other words, the harder you charge as a Senate majority leader, Sometimes it backfires.

00:26:41.000 The reason Mitch McConnell has been, whether you like him or not, a deeply effective legislator over the course of his career, the most effective Senate majority leader the Republicans have had in 100 years.

00:26:49.000 The reason for that is because Mitch McConnell is really Machiavellian.

00:26:53.000 It's because he actually knows how to wheel and deal.

00:26:55.000 It's because he knows how to do all the things in politics nobody likes to see.

00:26:58.000 The stuff that doesn't play amazing on talk radio, for example.

00:27:02.000 I know, I'm on talk radio, right?

00:27:04.000 The stuff that always is sort of the seamy side of politics, the bargaining, the to and fro, all that stuff McConnell is good at.

00:27:12.000 So that means that the qualities you're seeking in a Senate majority leader, somebody who actually is not going to be extremely loud, extremely brash, somebody very often who's able to get the thing done.

00:27:22.000 Presumably, I would imagine that is why there is a secret ballot for Senate majority leaders, specifically because all these senators have to decide who is best positioned to actually help cobble together the majority.

00:27:34.000 And you don't necessarily, I mean, it's sort of a different process than you voting for a bill.

00:27:40.000 A bill is an up or down thing that the American public obviously has an interest in seeing.

00:27:45.000 How you do your internal work is a little bit different.

00:27:48.000 I mean, I see the case both ways, but that would be the logic in any case.

00:27:51.000 In any case, Rick Scott, who is backed by a number of people who are in sort of conservative media, he was knocked out in the first round.

00:27:58.000 Thune then ended up defeating Senator John Cornyn from Texas.

00:28:02.000 Thun has been serving as the number two to Mitch McConnell for six years and staked out a middle ground during the campaign.

00:28:06.000 He agreed to listen closely to GOP colleagues, according to The Wall Street Journal, on the direction of the chamber and openly embraced the Trump agenda.

00:28:12.000 He did so without explicitly repudiating the Senate's current operation under McConnell.

00:28:16.000 He said, I promise to be a leader who serves the entire Republican conference.

00:28:20.000 We'll have an ambitious agenda and we'll take each and every Republican working together to be successful.

00:28:25.000 channel.

00:28:26.000 The first test flared up immediately because Trump had suggested that candidates for Senate leader commit to allow at least some of the nominees to take office through recess appointment.

00:28:37.000 Thune reacted, saying he was open to ideas on how to confirm nominees more quickly.

00:28:41.000 He said, what we're going to do is make sure that we are processing his nominees in a way that gets them into those positions so we can implement his agenda.

00:28:47.000 He said on nominees, the Republicans would, quote, explore all options to make sure they get moved and that they get moved quickly.

00:28:53.000 Now, with that said, obviously, John Thune, he is committed to making sure that Republicans' voices are heard, meaning that if Republicans want to shoot down a nominee, it's doubtful whether he is going to allow a recess appointment to overrule the Republican caucus as a whole.

00:29:12.000 Senator Joni Ur said he's got his work cut out for him.

00:29:14.000 Yeah, you know, that is definitely true.

00:29:17.000 So, you know, we'll see how all this plays out, but that's how the system of government is supposed to work.

00:29:21.000 It's how the system of government is supposed to work.

00:29:23.000 There should be this back and forth, this to and fro.

00:29:26.000 You end up with better policy that way.

00:29:29.000 President Trump knows that, which is why he sent congratulations to Senator Thune.

00:29:32.000 He said he moves quickly and will do an outstanding job.

00:29:34.000 I look forward to working with him as well as Senators John Barrasso, Senate Majority Whip, Tom Cotton, Senate Republican Conference Chairman, Shelley Moore Capito, Senate Republican Policy Committee Chairman, James Langford, Republican Conference Vice Chairman, and Tim Scott, National Republican Senatorial Committee Chairman, to make America great again.

00:29:49.000 Meanwhile, President Trump endorsed Mike Johnson, the Speaker of the House, hours ahead of any potential Speaker vote.

00:29:54.000 He put that to bed.

00:29:55.000 He said, I'm with him all the way, according to a couple of people.

00:29:59.000 That's smart.

00:30:00.000 Again, what we don't need right now is a lot of Republican infighting.

00:30:02.000 What we actually need is to move forward.

00:30:05.000 That needs to happen forthwith.

00:30:07.000 No more of the shooting inside the tent when it comes to policymaking.

00:30:11.000 And I think Trump knows that, which is why, of course, he is moving along with Mike Johnson.

00:30:17.000 And meanwhile, the Democrats are struggling to figure out what exactly to do.

00:30:23.000 One of the dirty little secrets, of course, is that in many of the circles of power, they're kind of happy Trump won.

00:30:28.000 If you are in business, you are very, very happy that Donald Trump won.

00:30:33.000 If you're a global leader, if you're a member of another country and you're looking at Trump, you are probably happy that Trump won.

00:30:41.000 When I say that, I mean, I've spoken with leaders of other countries, people who have publicly denounced Donald Trump.

00:30:47.000 And they are relieved at the idea that the Biden era is coming to an end.

00:30:51.000 It's been fraught with chaos and insanity.

00:30:53.000 They liked Donald Trump's foreign policy much better than what they are seeing right now.

00:30:57.000 Even Politico is noting that, quote, the Trump resistance goes flaccid.

00:31:02.000 Donald Trump's 2016 election stunner sparked a global revolt.

00:31:05.000 His 2024 triumph has been met with a weary shrug.

00:31:08.000 The Republicans' first win saw millions of political opponents protesting on the streets soon after the vote, organizing themselves with hashtags like resist.

00:31:16.000 But since Trump's crushing victory over Vice President Kamala Harris in last Tuesday's election, the reaction from both Democratic voters and officials in European capitals has been less one of fiery outrage and more muted resignation.

00:31:28.000 A European diplomat based in Washington, D.C. said, Well, yes, it is also true that Trump is part of a broader populist right movement that is emerging throughout the civilized world.

00:31:43.000 A right movement that is tired of the scavenger philosophy promoted by the left that says that open immigration, largely from places that do not like Western civilization, is a good idea.

00:31:53.000 Or that the best the West can hope for is cultural stagnation and economic decline.

00:31:57.000 Turns out people don't like that very much.

00:31:59.000 And they're rebelling against that all across Europe.

00:32:02.000 They're rebelling in South America.

00:32:04.000 And they're rebelling in the United States as well.

00:32:08.000 There's been a profound mood shift in 2024 compared to eight years ago, said Eileen Severs, associate professor in political science at the Free University of Brussels.

00:32:15.000 It's not unsurprising to witness a certain level of political burnout, of exhaustion, after the massive campaign, Severs said.

00:32:20.000 I think a lot of activists are very tired.

00:32:22.000 It's deflation after all these weeks of campaigning.

00:32:26.000 Not just that, it turns out that Trump did a pretty good job the first time.

00:32:31.000 A second European diplomat based in DC said, quote, people have reasonably fresh memories of what works and what doesn't work and how you get on the right side of him and how important, disproportionately important that is.

00:32:41.000 So again, the levels of anxiety for Trump are not high.

00:32:43.000 Secretly, they're kind of happy.

00:32:45.000 And it turns out that if you like your pocketbook, you're happy as well.

00:32:48.000 Because consumer sentiment is bouncing around and now it is up.

00:32:53.000 Again, it's not that difficult to get consumer sentiment up.

00:32:56.000 All you have to do is tell people you're not going to take all of their money, regulate them out of existence, or inflate all their savings away.

00:33:03.000 It's pretty easy things to do.

00:33:05.000 Joe Biden failed signally at all of them, but they're not all that difficult to do.

00:33:11.000 That's just one reason that Bitcoin is exploding.

00:33:13.000 Bitcoin is up to 90,000.

00:33:15.000 It's had a massive run from about 70,000 to 90,000 since election day alone.

00:33:21.000 The election of a pro-crypto president, according to the Wall Street Journal, has sent Bitcoin prices up 30% since election days.

00:33:27.000 Traders are wagering Bitcoin will reach $100,000 before the end of the year with $850 million worth of options contracts betting on the milestone by the December 27th expiration.

00:33:38.000 The crypto industry is now betting on a wave of deregulation and industry-friendly policies.

00:33:42.000 Yes, it turns out that when you're friendly to industry, industry is friendly right back to you.

00:33:47.000 Meanwhile, Democrats are struggling to come up with answers.

00:33:51.000 It seems as though they're starting to realize they need to snap back into moderation.

00:33:55.000 So, for example, over in San Francisco, a person named Daniel Lurie was elected mayor.

00:34:00.000 And he sounds like kind of an Eric Adams moderate now.

00:34:03.000 He says, I'm a lifelong Democrat, but it's time for some common sense over here.

00:34:07.000 I am a lifelong Democrat, but we don't think of ourselves as progressives or moderates or conservatives here in San Francisco.

00:34:14.000 We just want to get back to common sense.

00:34:17.000 We have to deliver the basics, and that's my plan.

00:34:20.000 That's the mandate that I was elected to fulfill.

00:34:25.000 Again, moderation from the San Francisco mayor.

00:34:28.000 He also added, you know what people actually want?

00:34:30.000 They're not that concerned about all the crazy social policies.

00:34:32.000 They just want to feel safe in their cities.

00:34:36.000 They want a mayor that is focused on delivering results.

00:34:39.000 That's the mandate I was voted in with.

00:34:41.000 And that's what I'm going to do.

00:34:42.000 I don't believe that that is anything more than...

00:34:45.000 Those are progressive values.

00:34:47.000 And so I understand I'm talking to a national audience here.

00:34:51.000 This is not liberal, progressive, conservative.

00:34:55.000 People want to feel safe walking down the street.

00:34:57.000 And that is right.

00:34:58.000 In fact, Democrats are starting to argue about all of this.

00:35:01.000 There's a piece in Politico that charts out a new memo that is making the rounds, like a three-and-a-half-page memo, pointing out how badly Democrats botched this.

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00:37:01.000 So now the Democrats are trying to figure out what their pathway forward looks like.

00:37:04.000 The obvious pathway forward for them is to jettison the identity politics.

00:37:08.000 Politically speculating that they might actually have to do just that.

00:37:12.000 Peace and Politico by Jonathan Martin, their senior political columnist, quote, Democrats wonder, are we too correct?

00:37:17.000 The depth of the 2024 defeat brings tough questions about a base built around identity groups.

00:37:22.000 He says that the party might need an opening to rethink their orientation around affinity group politics.

00:37:29.000 The question is whether they'll be emboldened or cower when one of those groups, as identity-based organizations are invariably called, speak up.

00:37:36.000 But the reward is alluring.

00:37:37.000 Whoever can retain the party's traditional commitments to the most vulnerable and also appeal to voters who just rejected Harris will emerge as the Democrats' strongest 2028 nominee and perhaps the next president.

00:37:47.000 But again, the question is going to be whether they are actually able to wake up to that so long as people, for example, like Joy Reid are out there.

00:37:56.000 The answer will be no.

00:37:57.000 Joy Reid over at MSNBC. She just gets more and more racist day in and day out. 1.00

00:38:00.000 It's amazing.

00:38:03.000 Y'all listen to this.

00:38:04.000 Furthermore, I will direct the Department of Justice to pursue federal civil rights cases against schools that continue to engage in racial discrimination and schools that persist in explicit unlawful discrimination under the guise of equity will not only have their endowments taxed, but through budget reconciliation, I will advance a measure to have them fined up to the entire amount of their endowment.

00:38:33.000 A portion of the seized funds will then be used as restitution for victims of these illegal and unjust policies, policies that hurt our country so badly.

00:38:43.000 Colleges have gotten hundreds of billions of dollars from hard-working taxpayers, and now we are going to get this anti-American insanity out of our institutions once and for all.

00:38:55.000 We are going to have real education in America.

00:39:00.000 Thank you.

00:39:02.000 So in other words, reparations for white people. 0.76

00:39:08.000 Any comments on that, Trump-Lags? 0.98

00:39:17.000 *laughs* That is not reparations for white people.

00:39:23.000 That is people who are victimized by affirmative action policies that kept them out of colleges, for example.

00:39:29.000 But again, keep doubling down on the racism.

00:39:31.000 Please, just keep on doing it.

00:39:33.000 Well, meanwhile, the attacks on Pete Hegseth, the Department of Defense nominee by President Trump, those continue.

00:39:40.000 Whoopi Goldberg thinks she can get out of this simply by mocking Pete Hegseth.

00:39:43.000 You know, I don't think this is going to work.

00:39:46.000 He also picked, you ready?

00:39:49.000 Co-host of Fox and Friends Weekend.

00:39:53.000 Not even like this.

00:39:54.000 Regular.

00:39:56.000 Weekend.

00:39:57.000 Pete Hegseth.

00:40:01.000 Hegseth?

00:40:05.000 Okay, Pete Hegseth.

00:40:06.000 And he's picked him to be U.S. Secretary of Defense.

00:40:10.000 Now, MAGA supporters and detractors are trying to figure out, what?

00:40:16.000 Because of this pick.

00:40:18.000 No, we're not.

00:40:18.000 We know exactly why that pick was made.

00:40:20.000 In fact, it turns out that the threats that we face are going to be amply facedown by Pete Hegseth.

00:40:26.000 Mikey Gallagher, former representative from Wisconsin, who I very much hope will be in consideration for Secretary of the Navy because he's tremendously knowledgeable and he's a real hawk on China, like a super China hawk, super bright guy.

00:40:36.000 He has a piece in the Wall Street Journal titled, Pentagon has two years to prevent World War III. He says, We're good 0.80

00:41:06.000 but the Pentagon bureaucracy.

00:41:07.000 The first task is to fix the U.S. Navy.

00:41:10.000 America needs a maritime industrial base that can counter China's.

00:41:13.000 Pentagon requirements for building maritime assets involve too many uncoordinated stakeholders.

00:41:17.000 The Pentagon establishes warfighting requirements, such as the number of missiles on a ship, without regard to interdependent technical specifications, such as that ship's center of gravity.

00:41:25.000 When those technical specs aren't tightly linked to warfighting requirements, the mismatch can cause underperformance or unplanned costs in time.

00:41:31.000 The DOD should return to a board model that served the Navy well until the 1960s.

00:41:36.000 The Navy should also create an office focused on expediting the development and deployment of certain warfighting technologies similar to the Rapid Capabilities Office at the Air Force or Space Force.

00:41:45.000 Again, he has all sorts of suggestions like this, and I think that Pete Hegseth is going to not only take those suggestions, he will do more than that.

00:41:53.000 He's going to be fighting the wokeness in the military. 1.00

00:41:56.000 He's not concerned with a military that is focused on the sexual diversity of its membership. 0.95

00:42:02.000 He's more concerned about whether they are good at, you know, killing bad people.

00:42:05.000 That is the thing that he is mostly concerned about, the efficacy of the American military.

00:42:11.000 Hegseth has said, China is building an army to defeat America.

00:42:14.000 We need to build an army to defeat them.

00:42:16.000 China's building an army specifically dedicated to defeating the United States of America.

00:42:21.000 That is their strategic outset.

00:42:22.000 Take hypersonic missiles.

00:42:24.000 So if our whole power projection platform is aircraft carriers and the ability to project power that way strategically around the globe, and yeah, we have a nuclear triad and all of that, but a big part of it, and if, you know, 15 hypersonic missiles can take out our 10 aircraft carriers in the first 20 minutes of a conflict, What does that look like?

00:42:43.000 I mean, if they've already got us by the balls economically, which you pointed out very well, with our grid, culturally there's plenty of elite capture going on around the globe.

00:42:56.000 I mean, and then microchips and everything.

00:42:59.000 Why do they want Taiwan?

00:42:59.000 They want to corner the market completely on the technological future.

00:43:03.000 We can't even drive our cars without the stuff we need out of China these days. 0.97

00:43:07.000 I mean, they have a full-spectrum, long-term view of not just regional but global domination, and we have our heads up our asses. 0.93

00:43:18.000 Okay, he is right about all that. 0.99

00:43:20.000 Again, this is the person who's apparently too ignorant to be the Secretary of Defense. 0.95

00:43:24.000 He's also getting hit over the course of the last 24 hours because someone surfaced a clip of him saying that women shouldn't be fighting in combat roles. 0.95

00:43:30.000 Again, like, um, why is that controversial?

00:43:33.000 Really?

00:43:34.000 Why?

00:43:35.000 Why should young women be fighting in frontline combat roles? 1.00

00:43:37.000 Does that make sense to anybody?

00:43:39.000 Why?

00:43:39.000 There are plenty of able-bodied men to do that.

00:43:42.000 Straight up just saying we should not have women in combat roles. 0.99

00:43:45.000 It hasn't made us more effective, hasn't made us more lethal, has made fighting more complicated.

00:43:50.000 We've all served with women and they're great. 1.00

00:43:52.000 It's just our institutions don't have to incentivize that in places where traditionally, not traditionally, over human history, men in those positions are more capable.

00:44:05.000 And so he is not wrong about any of that.

00:44:07.000 Like, again, if this is the controversial stuff about him, I'm not really seeing it.

00:44:11.000 And the other nominee who's getting a lot of flack, Mike Huckabee, as possible U.S. ambassador to Israel.

00:44:17.000 That is because Huckabee is wildly pro-Israel.

00:44:19.000 He's not just pro-Israel.

00:44:20.000 He also understands certain basic facts, like the idea that settlements are not illegal in the West Bank.

00:44:26.000 That is true.

00:44:27.000 They're disputed territory at very best.

00:44:30.000 And he maintains that the possibility of a two-state solution is basically a non-starter because that is the reality.

00:44:37.000 There is, number one, he says correctly, that Israel does have a historic and legal claim to the West Bank.

00:44:42.000 And not only that, he suggests that there is no actual peace partner for Israel.

00:44:46.000 That's true.

00:44:46.000 This, of course, has Democrats with their panties all in a twist because they're very upset about the fact that he's saying true things about the situation over there.

00:44:54.000 That there is no peace partner and that Israel does, in fact, have a legal claim to the so-called West Bank, Judea and Samaria, the biblical homeland of the Jewish people.

00:45:01.000 Here's Chris Van Hollen, senator, saying this is very, very bad.

00:45:06.000 He supports this concept of a greater Israel, Israel controlling the entire territory, from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea. 0.82

00:45:15.000 That's a Mike Huckabee vision.

00:45:17.000 It's a vision that has been embraced by the far right in Israel, including members of the Netanyahu government, like Smotrich and Ben Gavir.

00:45:27.000 So, this is a recipe.

00:45:29.000 If he continues to pursue these views, Okay, that is precisely wrong.

00:45:40.000 The reason that is precisely wrong is that even if you wanted a two-state solution, Israel should be seen to have a claim to the thing that it is claiming.

00:45:47.000 If I want to make a deal with you, any deal, let's say we're going to make a deal over this Tumblr.

00:45:52.000 Okay, and I say, listen, I own this Tumblr.

00:45:54.000 And you say, no, I own the Tumblr.

00:45:56.000 Okay, well, if I say, you know what, you're right, you own the Tumblr.

00:45:59.000 There's no deal to be made now.

00:46:00.000 I have now acknowledged your right to the Tumblr.

00:46:03.000 So there is no deal to be made.

00:46:05.000 The purpose of a negotiation is to settle mutually exclusive claims.

00:46:08.000 The point Huckabee is making, correctly, is that Israel does have its own exclusive claim to sovereignty over a particular territory. 0.84

00:46:14.000 And then, Palestinians are making similar claims about the sovereignty of that territory.

00:46:18.000 If it's a territorial dispute, that can be solved in a variety of ways.

00:46:22.000 What cannot be solved is an exterminationist, eliminationist viewpoint that says the entire state of Israel has to go.

00:46:30.000 Okay, recognizing the quote-unquote legitimate claims on both sides would be a proper way to start.

00:46:36.000 What would not be a proper way to start is by saying that one side, for example, the Israelis, have no legitimate claim at all to Judea and Samaria, which is not true.

00:46:43.000 That is the position of people like Chris Van Hollen.

00:46:46.000 Meanwhile, Turkey continues to be a thorn in the side of NATO. Turkey was originally admitted to NATO as a bulwark against the Soviet Union, because of course they're in a very territorially important area.

00:46:57.000 However, Turkey has now turned into an Islamist dictatorship under Erdogan.

00:47:02.000 They have now announced that they are severing all relationships with Israel.

00:47:06.000 The Turkish president said he will not continue or develop relations with Israel in the future.

00:47:09.000 This does beg the question as to why exactly Turkey is a member of NATO at this point.

00:47:14.000 Why precisely should Turkey continue to receive NATO protection under, for example, Article 5, if they are pretty much explicitly in a Cold War with an ally of the United States and still most of Europe?

00:47:27.000 That seems weird.

00:47:28.000 But again, NATO is poorly run.

00:47:30.000 I'm looking forward to President Trump making some corrections over at NATO. NATO's military chief, Admiral Rob Bauer, for example, he was caught on tape yesterday asking why people are so against being spied upon.

00:47:40.000 I mean, I have some answers to that one, actually.

00:47:43.000 And again, it's the me and the we discussion.

00:47:47.000 Everybody says, it's my privacy.

00:47:49.000 Now, everybody has given away everything to the tech companies in the U.S., By saying yes, yes, yes, when you wanted the app of Google and everything.

00:47:58.000 If the government says, can I see your phone for ten seconds, there's a revolution.

00:48:03.000 But we've given away everything already.

00:48:06.000 So it's a ridiculous discussion on privacy.

00:48:10.000 In many ways.

00:48:13.000 I think we have gone too far in many of these things.

00:48:16.000 We should look a little bit less to the individual and a little bit more to what does it mean for the group, for society.

00:48:23.000 Yeah, I'm a little bit discomforted by the head of NATO saying that.

00:48:27.000 He also specifically criticized Elon Musk, which is becoming sort of stock in trade for a globalist elite.

00:48:33.000 In terms of disinformation and cyber attacks and all the things that are happening, influencing elections, I think it's a serious problem.

00:48:43.000 And I think the use of social media is basically amplifying everything that is being done by bot factories.

00:48:55.000 And I'm very much in favor of freedom of speech, but I'm not necessarily convinced that what Mr.

00:49:03.000 Musk is doing on X is the right approach.

00:49:06.000 I'm very much in favor of freedom of speech.

00:49:11.000 But there is a lot of things on Twitter that is not helping our societies at all.

00:49:17.000 Well, you know, I think that if you're worried about freedom of speech and if you actually pretend that you care about these things, you just have some quibbles with Elon Musk, you might want to talk to some members of NATO like Turkey, which again is an Islamist dictatorship. 0.99

00:49:28.000 I'm also enjoying the revisionist history that you're getting from this military chief saying that Afghanistan was never of strategic importance.

00:49:34.000 That's weird since NATO was involved there for nigh on 20 years.

00:49:40.000 For me, there is a big difference between Afghanistan and Ukraine.

00:49:44.000 Actually, Afghanistan was never of strategic importance.

00:49:49.000 If we're really honest, Afghanistan was not of strategic importance.

00:49:56.000 We spent 20 years there, and we did a lot of things, and people lost their lives, but if you ask the question, was it of strategic importance in Afghanistan, the answer is no.

00:50:07.000 Okay, we're going to find out in really short order whether that's true, since Joe Biden pulled out of there ignominiously, left them billions of dollars in military equipment, and al-Qaeda's reconstituting.

00:50:15.000 So we'll find out whether, in fact, that is the case.

00:50:17.000 And if that was the case, why wasn't anybody at NATO saying that earlier?

00:50:20.000 Maybe you should have told all of us.

00:50:22.000 Alrighty, coming up, Rachel Zegler.

00:50:24.000 Man, that lady is creating more problems for Disney than any other single employee of Disney, which is saying a lot. 1.00

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The Ben Shapiro Show - November 14, 2024

Trump Meets Biden At The White House!

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