The Ben Shapiro Show - Trump Prepares To Drop Davos BOMBS

00:00:00.000 We're one year into the new Trump administration.

00:00:02.000 So, how's it going?

00:00:03.000 Plus, President Trump gets ready to go to Davos and his team begins to unveil their strategy for geopolitics.

00:00:10.000 How does that stack up with the rest of the world?

00:00:12.000 We'll get to all that in a moment.

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00:01:16.000 So, yesterday marked the one-year anniversary of President Trump's reascension to the highest office in our land.

00:01:22.000 In celebration, the White House released a press release, 365 wins in 365 days, celebrating President Trump's second term in office, the first year of which is now complete.

00:01:33.000 And there are a lot of wins to his name, for sure.

00:01:35.000 There are economic wins.

00:01:36.000 The stock market is at all-time highs.

00:01:38.000 The GDP numbers are coming in very hot for Q3 and Q4.

00:01:42.000 Inflation is radically down from where it was under Joe Biden.

00:01:45.000 On foreign policy, the president of the United States is responsible for bombing the Iranian nuclear facility over in Fordo and for ending the Gaza War.

00:01:54.000 Although we'll have to see exactly how that plays out with the Gaza board, he's responsible for helping to prevent deeper conflict between India and Pakistan and for ending conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan, among other conflicts in which he has intervened.

00:02:07.000 He's responsible, again, closer to home, for getting rid of DEI throughout the federal government and for enforcing our nation's southern border, shutting off the spigot that was sending legitimately hundreds of thousands of people per month across the American southern border.

00:02:23.000 And of course, he's responsible for activating ICE to go after people who ought not be here in the first place, meaning we now have a net loss of migrant population in the United States for the first time in years.

00:02:35.000 So there are a lot of wins for the president to stand on.

00:02:38.000 And yesterday, he held a press conference in which he made this pretty clear.

00:02:42.000 In fact, he brought with him his book of accomplishments, which he then apparently threw on the floor.

00:02:48.000 Here's the book.

00:02:49.000 These are all things we have.

00:02:52.000 I'm going to read a few of the samples, but look at this.

00:02:54.000 These are all each line of something that we did.

00:02:57.000 Nobody did that before.

00:03:00.000 And it's big stuff, too.

00:03:02.000 Look, we have the hottest country in the world.

00:03:07.000 He reads that book the way I read ads for Jeremy's Razors.

00:03:11.000 I really do enjoy that.

00:03:12.000 The president staying and chucking it on the ground because he's got better things to do.

00:03:17.000 The reality is, of course, it has been a very effective first year for the second term of the Trump administration overall.

00:03:24.000 He went ahead and said that God was very proud of his first year, which again, you'd imagine most presidents would believe about their performance in office.

00:03:32.000 Do you feel like God is proud of the effort that you've played?

00:03:35.000 I do, actually.

00:03:36.000 I think God is very proud of the job I've done.

00:03:39.000 And that includes for religion.

00:03:41.000 You know, we're protecting a lot of people that are being killed, Christians, Jewish people. 0.72

00:03:47.000 Lots of people are being protected by me that wouldn't be protected by another type of president.

00:03:52.000 And again, he's not wrong about that either.

00:03:54.000 And the president says that a huge number of the new jobs that have been created are private sector as opposed to in the public sector on the federal level because of things like Doge.

00:04:03.000 Here he was explaining about job growth in the private sector.

00:04:08.000 Under Trump, 100% of all new jobs created have been in the private sector.

00:04:14.000 Think of that.

00:04:14.000 Not 1% has gone to federal.

00:04:17.000 So under Biden, one out of four was a government job.

00:04:21.000 Under Trump, 100% of the new jobs created, 100% came from the private sector.

00:04:30.000 That's how you make your country wealthy and strong and good.

00:04:34.000 And he is not wrong about that either.

00:04:36.000 And while job creation has lagged behind the robustness of the market, the hope, of course, is that productivity increases will eventually result in job increases as well.

00:04:46.000 The president of the United States also pointed out the reverse migration that has followed hard upon his shutting of the southern border and his activation of immigration and customs enforcement in the interior of the United States.

00:04:57.000 For the first time in 50 years, we are now seeing reverse migration.

00:05:04.000 Where we're getting, because we're getting all of these illegal people out. 1.00

00:05:08.000 People that came in illegally, in many cases, they're criminals in many, many cases.

00:05:13.000 You remember when they used to say that the people that come into our country as immigrants are very nice people.

00:05:20.000 They're wonderful people.

00:05:21.000 No, they make our criminals look like babies.

00:05:21.000 They don't commit crime.

00:05:25.000 They make our Hell's Angels look like the sweetest people on earth.

00:05:30.000 The Hell's Angels are now considered a nice, high-quality person.

00:05:34.000 Now, with all of that said, the reality is that the president does end his first year in his second term in pretty bad position in terms of his approval ratings.

00:05:44.000 According to the Real Clear Politics Polling Average, the president's disapproval rating is currently standing at about 56%.

00:05:50.000 His approval rating is standing on average at about 42.5%.

00:05:55.000 That is, of course, down wildly from where it was even one year ago.

00:05:59.000 If you go back about a year, where you end up with is the president riding about 50% in the approval ratings, disapproval ratings of 45%.

00:06:06.000 So you've seen the numbers orienting in the wrong direction for the president.

00:06:11.000 And again, we've looked at all these victories and you wonder what's going wrong.

00:06:14.000 And the biggest thing that it feels like is going wrong is mostly just a feeling of unsettledness.

00:06:20.000 It feels as though everything is in flux.

00:06:22.000 It feels as though economically things are in flux thanks to both the fact that AI is developing and nobody kind of knows what that's going to do, but also the fact that we've had these gigantic tariff wars that seem to bob and flow every five seconds.

00:06:36.000 On the foreign policy front, we've had an awful lot of chaos because nobody seems to know what is the thoroughgoing message of the Trump administration.

00:06:44.000 And that seems to be exacerbated by the latest hubbub about Greenland and tariffs and fights with NATO and fights with our European allies.

00:06:52.000 Well, Davos, the World Economic Forum, is on.

00:06:55.000 It began this week.

00:06:57.000 A huge number of big names are coming.

00:06:59.000 That's particularly true of the Trump administration.

00:07:01.000 According to CNBC, President Trump is attending in person today.

00:07:05.000 We will be breaking down that speech.

00:07:06.000 We'll, of course, have updates a little bit later on in the day about that speech and other speeches, but we'll do our sort of full breakdown tomorrow on the show.

00:07:14.000 He gave a virtual address last year at the WEF, and it shook up the event.

00:07:19.000 Davos organizers, according to CNBC, are keen to talk up the numbers they expect to attend.

00:07:24.000 They said about 3,000 cross-sector leaders and a record 400 political leaders.

00:07:29.000 But a bunch of people are not intending to come.

00:07:32.000 And that includes a number of European leaders who are concerned with the president's quite confrontational stance with regard to Greenland.

00:07:42.000 There's some other big names who are not showing up as well.

00:07:43.000 Chinese President Xi Jinping is not showing up.

00:07:46.000 Neither are the leaders of Brazil or India.

00:07:48.000 Apparently, UK Prime Minister Kier Starmer and Italian leader Giorgio Maloney are not currently on the WEF list.

00:07:54.000 Both are reported to be attending at some point.

00:07:56.000 Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky was originally supposed to attend.

00:08:00.000 Apparently, that is not going to happen.

00:08:02.000 However, big showing from the Trump administration.

00:08:06.000 The U.S. delegation will include, of course, the president, but also the Secretary of State, Marco Rubio.

00:08:11.000 Treasury Secretary Scott Bessons is already there.

00:08:14.000 Middle East Special Envoy Steve Witkoff and Advisor Jared Kushner are apparently showing up as well.

00:08:21.000 Well, among the people who are already there are Howard Luttnick, who is the Commerce Secretary, and the Treasury Secretary Scott Bessons.

00:08:29.000 Howard Luttnick gave a speech at Davos yesterday in which he suggests that globalization has failed.

00:08:36.000 We are in Davos at the World Economic Forum, and the Trump administration and myself, we are here to make a very clear point.

00:08:45.000 Globalization has failed the West and the United States of America.

00:08:52.000 It's a failed policy.

00:08:54.000 It is what the WEF has stood for, which is export offshore, far shore.

00:09:02.000 Find the cheapest labor in the world, and the world is a better place for it.

00:09:06.000 The fact is, it has left America behind.

00:09:10.000 It has left the American workers behind. 0.67

00:09:12.000 And what we are here to say is that America First is a different model, one that we encourage other countries to consider, which is that our workers come first.

00:09:25.000 We can have policies that impact our workers.

00:09:30.000 Sovereignty is your borders.

00:09:33.000 You're entitled to have borders.

00:09:35.000 You shouldn't offshore your medicine.

00:09:37.000 You shouldn't offshore your semiconductors.

00:09:40.000 You shouldn't offshore your entire industrial base and have it be hollowed out beneath you.

00:09:45.000 You should not be dependent.

00:09:47.000 Now, again, what's kind of astonishing about the statements that Lutnick is making right there is that some of it obviously is true: that when you offshore, for example, the autonomy of your country to international bodies, it prevents you from acting on behalf of your citizenry.

00:10:01.000 But if the idea is that free trade itself is the problem, which seems to be something that he is promoting there, or if the idea is that every country should start to reshore its key facilities or its key trading apparatus, if that happens, what you're looking at is a significantly more multipolar world, not a world dominated by the United States of America.

00:10:24.000 At the very same time that Howard Lutnick was saying that, the Commerce Secretary, the Treasury Secretary was there, and he was encouraging the Europeans to take a deep breath, not to escalate with President Trump as President Trump pressures them over Greenland.

00:10:36.000 Four years in, the Europeans are still financing the war against themselves. 0.94

00:10:41.000 All right, let's talk about it.

00:10:43.000 But Joe, what I do want to say is: same thing that I said after Liberation Day on April 2nd.

00:10:49.000 Everyone, take a deep breath.

00:10:51.000 Do not escalate.

00:10:52.000 Do not escalate.

00:10:54.000 And President Trump has a strategy here.

00:10:57.000 Hear him out.

00:10:58.000 And then everything will be fine.

00:11:02.000 Okay, so he seems to be saying kind of the reverse of Howard Luttnick, meaning we are not starting trade wars just for the hell of it.

00:11:08.000 The goal, presumably, is some broader end.

00:11:11.000 At the same time, Scott Besson is also putting pressure on the Europeans not to buy Russian oil.

00:11:16.000 He's saying they're financing war against themselves.

00:11:17.000 So there are some ideological differences in the administration as to what exactly the Trump administration means here.

00:11:24.000 And just to be clear, that we have Europe buying Russian oil still.

00:11:31.000 Still, four years later, they are financing the war against themselves.

00:11:36.000 India started buying Russian oil after the conflict began, but President Trump put a 25% tariff on them.

00:11:44.000 And India has geared down and has stopped buying Russian oil.

00:11:50.000 And then three, China is a very large buyer of Russian oil, as they are of Iranian oil, as they were of Venezuelan oil.

00:11:58.000 Okay, so again, he is right about all of this, but it's sort of fascinating to hear the difference in approach between Bessons, who seems to be encouraging the Europeans to take an anti-Russian, anti-Chinese stand, and Lutnik, who seems to be encouraging everybody to quote unquote look out for themselves because the United States also wants to look out for itself.

00:12:14.000 Now, an enormous amount of what is happening right now is really just a blowback, not to free trade per se, but to a particular vision of the world that was first expressed by George H.W. Bush back in 1990 in the aftermath of the Cold War, in the aftermath of the Soviet Union falling.

00:12:29.000 So, George H.W. Bush did a number of appearances ranging from a session of Congress to national TV to international summits, where he talked about what was called the New World Order.

00:12:41.000 And this became a term utilized in sort of the American body politic to mean, I think, what Luttnick is talking about and some of what Besens is talking about and some of what Trump is talking about.

00:12:53.000 This sort of new world order was this utopian vision in which America would outsource her key interests to a globally interested group of like-minded people, all of whom, and he really meant this, all of whom would center in on freedom and liberty as the load-bearing foundations of the new civilization.

00:13:13.000 Okay, in just a moment, I want to go back in time and talk about what set off this entire firestorm over American foreign policy, and that is the sort of new world order constructed in the aftermath of the death of the USSR first.

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00:14:35.000 Here's what it sounded like when George H.W. Bush talked about what he called the New World Order in 1990.

00:14:40.000 A new world order can emerge.

00:14:44.000 A new era.

00:14:45.000 Freer from the threat of terror, stronger in the pursuit of justice, and more secure in the quest for peace.

00:14:56.000 An era in which the nations of the world, East and West, North and South, can prosper and live in harmony.

00:15:05.000 A hundred generations have searched for this elusive path to peace while a thousand wars raged across the span of human endeavor.

00:15:15.000 And today, that new world is struggling to be born.

00:15:18.000 A world quite different from the one we've known.

00:15:22.000 A world where the rule of law supplants the rule of the jungle.

00:15:26.000 A world in which nations recognize the shared responsibility for freedom and justice.

00:15:34.000 We have a real chance at this new world order.

00:15:37.000 An order in which a credible United Nations can use its peacekeeping role to fulfill the promise and vision of the UN's founders.

00:15:47.000 What is at stake is more than one small country.

00:15:53.000 It is a big idea, a new world order, where diverse nations are drawn together in common cause to achieve the universal aspirations of mankind.

00:16:07.000 Peace and security, freedom, and the rule of law.

00:16:13.000 Such is a world worthy of our struggle and worthy of our children's future.

00:16:21.000 Okay, so let's talk about that for a second because it is that thing that has been rejected not by President Trump, but by reality.

00:16:28.000 This idea that we were going to live in a world in which East and West, North and South all coordinated to pursue justice rather than the law of the jungle, in which the rule of law, the international rule of law, would supplant that rule of the jungle, in which nations would all recognize their shared responsibility for freedom.

00:16:47.000 That never materialized because it was never true.

00:16:50.000 It was never true.

00:16:51.000 It turns out that nations do have their own interests.

00:16:52.000 Now, that raises the question as to what should the geopolitics of the world look like?

00:16:59.000 What exactly should the world look like?

00:17:01.000 Now, we've seen a bunch of different visions here because the truth is that the George H.W. Bush sort of Wilsonian vision of world order was then followed by Bill Clinton's Wilsonian vision of world order and George W. Bush's Wilsonian vision of a world order.

00:17:15.000 And here I'm referencing Woodrow Wilson, who believed in this sort of gigantic global agreement about what was right and what was wrong in international law.

00:17:24.000 And no longer would power politics be at the center of international conflict.

00:17:31.000 Barack Obama, for his part, led from behind because he believed this in part two.

00:17:36.000 Now, there are obviously variations in foreign policy here.

00:17:39.000 George W. Bush's foreign policy was significantly more muscular than, for example, Barack Obama's.

00:17:43.000 Barack Obama's foreign policy was a foreign policy that suggested that America was inherently bad and therefore should not take a leading role in this new world order, whereas George W. Bush thought the United States should take a leading role in this new world order.

00:17:56.000 But again, the idea was that there would be international rule by international standards, which is why presumably the United States, for example, in the run-up to both the war in Afghanistan and the war in Iraq, saw UN approval and UN intervention.

00:18:12.000 Now, the reality that President Trump has recognized that this never was going to work, that this was always going to be false, that actually the law of the jungle does apply on the world stage.

00:18:22.000 But that doesn't answer the question as to what the United States should pursue.

00:18:25.000 Should the United States pursue a more balkanized vision of the world in which a huge number of countries are in conflict with one another and the United States does not take a leading role?

00:18:34.000 Or should the United States take a more hawkishly realistic view of the world in which the United States pursues its interests, but recognizes that it's going to need allies in pursuit of that interest, in which the United States recognizes key opponents, like say Russia and China and Iran, and recognizes key areas of interest, like, for example, freedom of the seas, ensuring the non-nuclearization of Iran, preventing the intervention of Russia in Eastern Europe?

00:19:02.000 Or is the United States going to withdraw from the world and basically say, everybody have at it.

00:19:07.000 It's every man for himself. 0.94

00:19:08.000 The United States ought not take a leading role because it weakens us to be involved in the world.

00:19:12.000 That is the question that still needs answering.

00:19:15.000 And this is a question that, bizarrely enough, seems to be taking the fore, thanks to President Trump's focus on Greenland.

00:19:24.000 Why Greenland?

00:19:25.000 Well, because Greenland, again, was not really on the bingo card.

00:19:27.000 The reality is that you could make a case that the United States should support Ukraine more strongly.

00:19:32.000 You could make, I think, a significantly weaker case, the United States should not support Ukraine as strongly, or that the United States should shift pretty much all of the onus for defending Ukraine onto Europe without any sort of real transitional plan.

00:19:44.000 You make all of those cases.

00:19:45.000 When you're talking about going after Greenland as a sort of pure imperialist measure, because let's be real about this, the president of the United States is not trying to grab Greenland because it is necessary for us to up our military presence.

00:19:57.000 We can do that under current treaty obligations.

00:20:00.000 Under current defense treaties, we have the ability to build new military bases on Greenland pretty much anytime we want.

00:20:06.000 What the president is talking about is grabbing control of Greenland so as to presumably enlarge the territory of the United States.

00:20:12.000 And again, I don't think there's anything wrong with that as sort of a general rule, but the idea that this is a main priority of the United States and that it has to do with deterring the Russians, that is definitely a strange proposition coming from an administration that has been, at best, somewhat lackluster in its support of Ukraine, which is currently still fighting an existential war against Russia.

00:20:33.000 Well, the president of the United States continues to go after Greenland.

00:20:37.000 He, at this White House press conference yesterday, suggested that a deal will be made with NATO over Greenland.

00:20:43.000 I think something's going to happen that's going to be very good for everybody.

00:20:47.000 Nobody's done more for NATO than I have, as I said before, in every way.

00:20:54.000 Getting them to go up to 5% of GDP was something that nobody thought was possible and pay.

00:21:01.000 At 2%, they weren't paying.

00:21:03.000 At 5%, they are paying.

00:21:05.000 And they're buying a lot of things from us, and they're giving them, I guess, to Ukraine.

00:21:09.000 That's up to them, but they're giving them to whoever they're giving them to.

00:21:12.000 But they're buying a lot.

00:21:14.000 I think that we will work something out where NATO is going to be very happy and where we're going to be very happy.

00:21:20.000 But we need it for security purposes.

00:21:25.000 Okay, now, again, it has not been fully explained why the United States requires full sovereignty over Greenland in order to achieve those security purposes, especially, again, in a vacuum.

00:21:34.000 I'm not against it.

00:21:35.000 But the cost being a pretty open break with NATO, a pretty open break with the Europeans, while the Russians are getting a lot more feisty on the global stage, while the Chinese are trying to fight their way out of a demographic box. 0.91

00:21:48.000 Well, according to our sponsors over at Calci, the Calci markets suggest a 43% shot that Trump will buy at least part of Greenland before January 20th, 2029.

00:21:58.000 And 29% of people believe that he will buy at least part of Greenland before 2027, right?

00:22:06.000 Meaning sometime this year.

00:22:09.000 So, you know, it'll be interesting to see whether that materializes.

00:22:12.000 But the question is: how much are we willing to alienate erstwhile allies in order to make an aggressive move with regard to Greenland?

00:22:21.000 Because it turns out, for example, that right now there's an election in Denmark.

00:22:25.000 That election in Denmark was actually trending toward the right-wing parties in Denmark until the president started messing around with all of this talk about Greenland.

00:22:35.000 Now, the Social Democrats, the left, seems to be gaining some pretty significant ground in the opinion polling thanks to the president getting involved.

00:22:42.000 The same thing, of course, happened in Canada when the president decided that he was going to launch an unsolicited trade war against the Canadians.

00:22:49.000 Is this useful?

00:22:51.000 Well, I can say this: the movement of Canada away from Pierre Polyev and toward Mark Carney has not been a boon to the United States.

00:22:51.000 Is this good?

00:22:58.000 It's been a boon to China. 0.93

00:23:02.000 But what's fascinating is, listen to the language that Mark Carney, who is speaking at Davos, used with regard to the rules-based international order.

00:23:08.000 He says that didn't exist.

00:23:10.000 Therefore, I should go make a deal with China. 0.99

00:23:12.000 So he is taking the post-Wilsonian American view of the world, and he is twisting it toward an isolationist view of the United States that gives him the moral wherewithal to go cut deals with some of the worst people on earth.

00:23:24.000 Here is Mark Carney.

00:23:26.000 1978, the Czech dissident Vaslav Havel, later president, wrote an essay called The Power of the Powerless.

00:23:35.000 And in it, he asked a simple question: how did the communist system sustain itself?

00:23:42.000 And his answer began with the greengrocer.

00:23:45.000 Every morning, this shopkeeper places a sign in his window, workers of the world unite.

00:23:52.000 He doesn't believe it.

00:23:53.000 No one does.

00:23:55.000 But he places the sign anyway to avoid trouble, to signal compliance, to get along.

00:24:01.000 And because every shopkeeper on every street does the same, the system persists.

00:24:07.000 Not through violence alone, but through the participation of ordinary people in rituals they privately know to be false.

00:24:16.000 Havel called this living within a lie.

00:24:20.000 The system's power comes not from its truth, but from everyone's willingness to perform as if it were true.

00:24:28.000 And its fragility comes from the same source.

00:24:32.000 When even one person stops performing, when the greengrocer removes his sign, the illusion begins to crack.

00:24:40.000 Friends, it is time for companies and countries to take their signs down.

00:24:48.000 Four decades.

00:24:51.000 And what does he do?

00:24:52.000 He then called for, again, a movement away from the United States.

00:24:56.000 He suggested the middle powers needed to come together to, quote, build something bigger, better, stronger, and more just.

00:25:00.000 Quote, this is the task of the middle powers, the countries that have the most to lose from a world of fortresses and the most to gain from genuine cooperation.

00:25:10.000 So he's talking there.

00:25:11.000 It's amazing.

00:25:12.000 Vaslav Havel was talking about the green grocer issue with communism, right?

00:25:16.000 Putting up the Workers of the World Unite sign was the building block of communist tyranny.

00:25:21.000 He's talking about taking down the pro-America sign and putting up the we're open for business with China sign.

00:25:26.000 That's really what he's talking about.

00:25:28.000 Quote, Canada was amongst the first to hear the wake-up call, leading us to fundamentally shift our strategic posture, saying openly that he's attempting to break with the United States.

00:25:37.000 Is that good for the United States?

00:25:39.000 I'm not sure that it is.

00:25:40.000 And then you have, of course, internationalists like Emmanuel Macron over in France.

00:25:44.000 He also spoke over at Davos, where he suggested that he is going to stand up for rule of law, which, of course, is a joke.

00:25:51.000 The French, of course, have a long history of siding with some of the worst regimes on planet Earth.

00:25:55.000 But the goal is a reorientation away from an American-led world.

00:26:00.000 We have a place where rule of law and predictability is still the rule of the game.

00:26:08.000 And my guess is that it is largely underpriced by the market.

00:26:13.000 Having a place like Europe, which sometimes is too slow, for sure, and needs to be reformed, for sure, but which is predictable, loyal.

00:26:26.000 And when you know that the rule of the game is just the rule of law, it's a good place.

00:26:35.000 And here in the peace center of this continent, we do believe that we need more growth, we need more stability in this world, but we do prefer respect to bullies.

00:26:47.000 We do prefer science to plutism.

00:26:49.000 And we do prefer rule of law to brutality.

00:26:52.000 Okay, that is absolute nonsense.

00:26:54.000 I'm sorry. 0.67

00:26:54.000 The Europeans prefer rule of law to brutality. 0.67

00:26:56.000 I present to you large swaths of the history of the European continent, including most of the 20th century, as a bit of a counterargument to that.

00:27:04.000 As far as France prefers respect to bullies, again, France has been one of the more bullying powers over the course of the last several centuries.

00:27:11.000 So that is a new one.

00:27:13.000 But again, the goal here is to reorient away from America as the leader of the global movement and toward a sort of multipolar world in which the French are now going to pick up the baton. 0.59

00:27:24.000 And so the president of the United States is trying to pull away from a new world order vision of George H.W. Bush and his heirs that suggested that the U.S. should give up its autonomy to international institutions, which of course is right. 0.99

00:27:36.000 The question is, what's going to supplant that?

00:27:38.000 Is it an America that is last in the world or an America that is hemispherically restricted?

00:27:44.000 Is it an America that is willing to allow Russia to do what it wants in Eastern Europe or China to do what it wants in Taiwan or allows Iran to do what it wants in the Middle East with the help of China and Russia?

00:27:53.000 Or is it an America that continues to take its own policies seriously, continues to take its own citizens' interests seriously, which means being muscular in the world and pretending away, you know, sort of the moment that we're in, the inflection point that we're in historically, I think would be a mistake.

00:28:14.000 The president of the United States wants to initiate another trade war, again, this time over Greenland.

00:28:19.000 But as the Wall Street Journal points out, this tariff threat is not like the others.

00:28:22.000 In the past year, President Trump has used tariffs extensively to pursue trade and investment deals or address domestic complaints like illegal immigration and drugs.

00:28:29.000 His threat to hit several European countries with tariffs of 10% rising to 25% if they oppose the U.S. annexation of Greenland is entirely different.

00:28:37.000 It would be an unprecedented use of tariffs against an ally for a strategic as opposed to a domestic goal.

00:28:44.000 This is the logical endpoint of Trump's core doctrine that the U.S.'s economic size and influence give it leverage to achieve a variety of goals through tariffs, including some that previously required military force.

00:28:56.000 President Trump using asymmetry and economic power in order to go after allies is sort of a shocking thing.

00:29:04.000 And again, one of the fears that the Europeans have is that if Trump doesn't get Greenland, he could abandon Ukraine or NATO entirely, leaving Europe vulnerable to Russian aggression, which of course would make Russia exponentially stronger.

00:29:15.000 I mean, if the idea is you got to get Greenland to prevent Russia from taking parts of the Arctic, then handing over Ukraine to the Russians seems like a strange sort of trade.

00:29:24.000 And Greg Ip, writing for the Wall Street Journal, said Europe might be reluctant to give up Greenland and risk a repeat of this trade war.

00:29:35.000 For a while, Trump talked of making Canada the 51st state.

00:29:38.000 That talk has ceased, but a successful acquisition of Greenland could whet his appetite anew.

00:29:44.000 So it'll be really fascinating, again, to see where this goes.

00:29:49.000 One place that it is going is the reorientation of a lot of countries away from the United States.

00:29:53.000 And again, the stock market sank nearly 900 points on President Trump's newly declared wars with regard to tariffs on the European continent.

00:30:01.000 The Dow Industrials lost 871 points.

00:30:04.000 The dollar weakened, treasury yields rose.

00:30:08.000 And again, those stock declines gained momentum after President Trump doubled down on his desire to take over Greenland, according to the Wall Street Journal, firing off social media posts on his way to the World Economic Forum in Switzerland.

00:30:20.000 Asked how far he was willing to go to acquire Greenland, Trump told reporters at the White House, quote, you'll find out.

00:30:27.000 Well, the EU isn't waiting around to find out.

00:30:29.000 EU President Ursula von der Leyen is teasing a big economic deal between India and the EU.

00:30:34.000 The sort of multipolar reorientation is beginning.

00:30:39.000 And right after Davos, the next weekend, I will travel to India.

00:30:47.000 There's still work to do, but we are on the cusp of a historic trade agreement.

00:30:53.000 Indeed, some call it the mother of all deals.

00:30:58.000 One that would create a market of 2 billion people, accounting for almost a quarter of global GDP.

00:31:08.000 And crucially, that would provide a first-mover advantage for Europe with one of the world's fastest-growing and most dynamic continents.

00:31:20.000 And again, the United States is right now in a trade war with India.

00:31:24.000 So again, when you alienate a bunch of erstwhile allies, you do create the possibility of a vacuum, and chaos tends to fill that vacuum.

00:31:31.000 Now, one of the people who's trying to take advantage of President Trump's heterodox views on foreign policy.

00:31:37.000 Again, we don't have a full picture.

00:31:38.000 It'll be fascinating to see what the president has to say at Davos is Gavin Newsom, who I sat down with last week.

00:31:44.000 Gavin Newsom showed up at Davos because obviously he is running for president in 2028.

00:31:49.000 And here he was ripping into the president, but more ripping into world leaders for the possibility of conceding to President Trump, which, again, is a slightly strange proposition.

00:31:58.000 I mean, I think that it would probably be in the interests of not only the United States, but the globe for there to be more concessions from the Europeans to Trump, even if I largely disagree with Trump on things like what he's doing in Ukraine or with regard to Greenland, for that matter.

00:32:12.000 It's time to stand tall, tall, strong.

00:32:14.000 Does that mean we're still going to stand united?

00:32:17.000 You make that determination.

00:32:18.000 I don't make that determination.

00:32:20.000 So when you say standing united, what do you mean?

00:32:22.000 Just I can't take this complicity.

00:32:24.000 People rolling over.

00:32:26.000 I should have brought up a bunch of meat pads for all the world leaders. 0.99

00:32:29.000 I mean, handing out crowns and handing out, I mean, this is pathetic. 0.97

00:32:33.000 Nobel Prizes, they are being given away. 0.99

00:32:36.000 I mean, it's just pathetic. 0.99

00:32:38.000 And I hope people understand how pathetic they look on the world stage. 0.99

00:32:43.000 I mean, at least from an American perspective, it's embarrassing. 0.98

00:32:47.000 I am doing.

00:32:47.000 So what should you do?

00:32:49.000 You should decide.

00:32:49.000 The Europeans should decide for themselves what to do.

00:32:52.000 But one thing they can't do is what they've been doing.

00:32:56.000 And they've been playing. 0.99

00:32:58.000 This guy is playing folks for fools. 1.00

00:33:01.000 And it's embarrassing. 1.00

00:33:03.000 Europeans think this is diplomacy.

00:33:05.000 Oh, this is diplomacy with Donald Trump.

00:33:07.000 He's a T-Rex.

00:33:09.000 You mate with him or he devours you.

00:33:12.000 Okay, I'm not even sure exactly what Gavin Newsom is arguing for the Europeans to do at this point, presumably to up their trade war with the United States, which would hurt American consumers and producers pretty dramatically.

00:33:23.000 Newsom said in a statement, Trump's economic agenda betrays our nation.

00:33:26.000 It is not America first, but Trump first, rewarding the favored, punishing the dissenters, and burdening the rest.

00:33:31.000 At the World Economic Forum, I will forcefully confront these abuses and resolutely defend the principles to which California owes its economic strength, disciplined governance, world-leading universities, boundless innovation, and an open embrace of global cultures.

00:33:43.000 I mean, he sounds like a libertarian, which is kind of astonishing considering his economic record in the state of California.

00:33:50.000 He plans to blast the president's economic stewardship at Davos as, quote, an assault on the free market and call Trump a crony capitalist pursuing personal enrichment.

00:33:58.000 This is going to attack Trump actually from the right on economics.

00:34:02.000 Sort of a fascinating proposition.

00:34:04.000 Meanwhile, on the immigration issue, President Trump continues to crack down.

00:34:08.000 Federal prosecutors, according to the Associated Press, have now served grand jury subpoenas to Minnesota officials as part of an investigation into whether they obstructed or impeded law enforcement during a sweeping immigration operation in the Minneapolis-St. Paul area.

00:34:21.000 A person familiar with the matter said the subpoenas are going to seek records and were sent to the offices of Governor Tim Walz, Attorney General Keith Ellison, Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Fry, St. Paul Mayor Kohli Hurr, and officials in Ramsey and Hennepend counties, according to this person.

00:34:36.000 The subpoenas are related to an investigation into whether Minnesota officials obstructed federal immigration enforcement through public statements they made.

00:34:44.000 Tim Walz put out a statement responding to the subpoena.

00:34:47.000 This, of course, is after he suggested that people get in the way, although he suggested peacefully, as though the word peacefully sort of obscured everything else that he was saying.

00:34:56.000 Quote, Mr. President, Minnesota invites you to see our values in action.

00:34:59.000 Come see how communities from all walks of life are working together and how the spirit of this state refuses to be defined by division or fear.

00:35:06.000 I invite you to join me and others in our community to help restore calm and order and reaffirm that true public safety comes from shared purpose, trust, and respect.

00:35:13.000 But let me be absolutely clear.

00:35:14.000 The state of Minnesota will not be drawn into political theater.

00:35:18.000 Okay, my dude, you are the director of this political theater.

00:35:22.000 You're the producer, director, and writer of this political theater.

00:35:24.000 They won't be drawn into political theater.

00:35:26.000 Who started the political theater?

00:35:28.000 Tim Walz was part and parcel of this thing.

00:35:31.000 He was involved in every aspect of this political theater.

00:35:33.000 He basically did the stage lights. 0.97

00:35:35.000 This is ridiculous.

00:35:37.000 He continued, My focus has always been protecting the rights of the people of this state, not protecting myself. 0.73

00:35:43.000 Families are scared.

00:35:44.000 Kids are afraid to go to school.

00:35:45.000 Small businesses are hurting.

00:35:47.000 A mother is dead, and people responsible have yet to be held accountable.

00:35:50.000 That's where the energy of the federal government should be directed toward restoring trust, accountability, and real law and order, not political retaliation.

00:35:56.000 And then he says, I will not be intimidated into silence.

00:36:01.000 Well, I mean, it's not about being intimidated into silence.

00:36:04.000 It is about whether you're going to actually facilitate the obstruction of federal law.

00:36:09.000 Now, President Trump, in the middle of this White House press conference, did something that I think was absolutely worthwhile.

00:36:15.000 He held up the mugshots of some of the people who'd been arrested in Minnesota.

00:36:18.000 It turns out that these are the kinds of people you would like for ICE to arrest and deport.

00:36:23.000 This is one state out of many.

00:36:27.000 And these people are, let's see, yeah, these are all, so far, people that came from outside of the country.

00:36:37.000 They were allowed in by sleepy Joe Biden, crooked Joe Biden, whichever you like.

00:36:42.000 You can call him whatever you like.

00:36:43.000 They're both right. 0.99

00:36:43.000 He's sleepy and he's crooked. 0.99

00:36:45.000 He was the worst president we've ever had. 0.98

00:36:49.000 And we've had some bad ones, too.

00:36:51.000 I can tell you all you have to do is look at trade.

00:36:57.000 You're not getting bored with this, right?

00:36:58.000 I hope you don't.

00:37:00.000 But these are people that you have to see: strong-armed rape, aggravated assault with a weapon, and many other crimes.

00:37:15.000 Again, he's not wrong about this, and more of this would be good from just a PR level.

00:37:19.000 One of the things I talked about earlier this week is you want the optics with regard to illegal immigration to be focused on the thing that policing and illegal immigration is really about, going after criminal, illegal immigrants. 0.53

00:37:30.000 Well, the president also had some comments about Somali Americans and the vast swath of Somalis who've been allowed into Minnesota.

00:37:39.000 Some rather, shall we say, colorful remarks from the president here.

00:37:44.000 Halted all refugee admissions to the United States, including from Somalia, which is a terrible, terrible place and other dangerous places. 1.00

00:37:54.000 And we also stopped the pirates because they get the same treatment as the drug boats.

00:38:00.000 So in Somalia, the Somalians, you know what they're good at?

00:38:03.000 That's about the only thing they're good at is they're good at pirating ships at sea, big ships.

00:38:11.000 Well, somebody saw Captain Phillips.

00:38:13.000 So there we are.

00:38:14.000 The president at the same time suggested Hispanics are some of the best people we have.

00:38:18.000 So he's apparently trying, I think, probably to buy back some of the low numbers he has with Hispanic Americans, possibly based on the ICE rates.

00:38:29.000 Then they say, oh, we discriminate against.

00:38:31.000 I love Hispanic.

00:38:32.000 They are unbelievable, entrepreneurial.

00:38:35.000 They have everything.

00:38:36.000 I did great.

00:38:37.000 I did the highest.

00:38:38.000 Nobody ever got numbers like I got from the standpoint of being a Republican.

00:38:44.000 But even if you look at Texas, I won the entire border along Texas between Texas and Mexico.

00:38:51.000 It never happened before.

00:38:52.000 Nobody's ever done that before.

00:38:53.000 I did it.

00:38:54.000 As a Republican, I did it.

00:38:55.000 I love the Hispanic.

00:38:58.000 And they accuse us of all sorts of things.

00:39:00.000 60% of the people we're talking about, they're the best people we have, and they're Hispanic.

00:39:05.000 The Border Patrol is largely Hispanic.

00:39:07.000 ICE is largely Hispanic.

00:39:10.000 They're unbelievable people.

00:39:12.000 Okay, so again, the president, when it comes to illegal immigration, he is counting on the left to make a large-scale mistake.

00:39:20.000 And he is right about this because, again, the more he focuses in on going after criminal illegal immigrants or fraud, the better he will be doing. 0.92

00:39:27.000 Greg Bovino is the CBP commander at large, touting Minnesota's arrest record.

00:39:33.000 Let's don't quit there.

00:39:35.000 Let's keep on there. 0.94

00:39:36.000 We've got Annabelle Gomez, a criminal, illegal alien from Honduras, previously arrested for criminal sexual conduct and domestic assault.

00:39:45.000 Other convictions include disorderly conduct and driving under the influence of liquor.

00:39:51.000 Walking the streets as of yesterday.

00:39:53.000 These are just three.

00:39:55.000 Three that I decided to print out.

00:39:57.000 There's a whole stack of them.

00:39:58.000 These are the kinds of individuals this operation focuses on.

00:40:03.000 Individuals who escalate situations and endanger others.

00:40:07.000 Again, our neighbors, our friends, our colleagues in Ma and Pa America.

00:40:12.000 This is exactly why interior enforcement exists to remove dangerous criminals from our communities.

00:40:22.000 Well, the left, for its part, is going too far.

00:40:25.000 So again, I warned about this on Monday.

00:40:26.000 I suggested that ugly images of ICE in the middle of raids would not be great for the administration, but that the left could go too far.

00:40:33.000 And they waited precisely zero seconds before going too far.

00:40:36.000 Obviously, we've been talking over the course of the past several days about this church invasion in Minneapolis, this takeover of a church by people protesting ICE.

00:40:46.000 Well, one of those protesters is a person named William Kelly, who apparently is basically a professional protester.

00:40:50.000 He just shows up at these things for fun.

00:40:52.000 And here he was talking about his supposed heroism for invading a church.

00:40:59.000 So you know, Pam Bondi, you want to come and arrest me?

00:41:01.000 You want to come and give me charges?

00:41:03.000 So be it. 0.99

00:41:04.000 And for all the people getting, you know, giving me death threats, threatening my life, kill me. 1.00

00:41:08.000 Go ahead, kill me. 1.00

00:41:10.000 Because you know what? 1.00

00:41:10.000 As Fred Hampton said, you can kill the revolutionary, but you can't kill the revolution. 1.00

00:41:18.000 Okay, well, I'm sure that Americans are going to love that.

00:41:22.000 In other news, we now find that many of the protests across the country, ranging from the Free Palestine protests to the ICE protests, have been organized by a group called the People's Forum, a Chinese Communist Party-funded organization behind an enormous amount of protest activity in New York City.

00:41:40.000 According to Jason Smith, who's the chair of the House Ways and Means Committee, he's now demanding records from that group, the People's Forum, a New York-based 501c3 organization, following mounting evidence that shows the organization has acted as a foreign agent for the CCP and has received millions of dollars in funding from a known CCP ally named Neville Roy Singham while enjoying the benefits of U.S. tax-exempt status.

00:42:03.000 So you have foreign, allegedly foreign-funded protesting.

00:42:08.000 You have takeovers of churches.

00:42:12.000 And of course, you have politicians who are making the dumbest argument possible, which is that law enforcement should apparently unilaterally disband Zorhan Mamdani, who, remember, is now the new face of the Democratic Party. 0.96

00:42:22.000 This is according to Democrats, because he said the word affordability over and over and over and really doesn't like Jews very much. 0.91

00:42:27.000 Here is Zorhan Mamdani on the view making the argument that ICE should be full-scale abolished.

00:42:34.000 You know, I am in support of abolishing ICE, and I'll tell you why.

00:42:37.000 Because what we see is an entity that has no interest in fulfilling its stated reason to exist.

00:42:49.000 We're seeing a government agency that is supposed to be enforcing some kind of immigration law, but instead what it's doing is terrorizing people, no matter their immigration status, no matter the facts of the law, no matter the facts of the case.

00:43:02.000 And I'm tired of waking up every day and seeing a new image of someone being dragged out of a car, dragged out of their home, dragged out of their life.

00:43:10.000 What we need to see is humanity.

00:43:12.000 And there is a way to care about immigration in this city and in this country with a sense of humanity.

00:43:18.000 What we're seeing from ICE is not it, and we have not seen that from them in a long, long time.

00:43:22.000 In a long time.

00:43:23.000 Okay, fine.

00:43:24.000 So we want to abolish ICE.

00:43:25.000 Is going to go about as well as abolish the police when there's a reason, again, that Governor Newsom in California was telling me that he opposes Zora Mandani and other Democrats claiming that ICE should be abolished. 0.99

00:43:35.000 But apparently, this is going to be another one of these nostrums that idiot Democrats are going to have to repeat over and over. 0.98

00:43:41.000 Newly elected New Jersey Governor Mikey Sherrill made a similar argument yesterday. 0.99

00:43:46.000 She suggested that President Trump is keeping standing armies among us in times of peace.

00:43:51.000 No, he's not.

00:43:52.000 They are a domestic law enforcement agency.

00:43:54.000 They are doing law enforcement.

00:43:56.000 That's literally in their mandate.

00:43:57.000 It's what they're designed to do.

00:44:00.000 He has kept among us in times of peace standing armies without the consent of our legislatures.

00:44:13.000 And this election proved that the people of New Jersey recognize the parallels that we see a president illegally usurping power, unconstitutionally enacting a terror regime to make billions for himself and his family.

00:44:27.000 Again, if this is the direction Democrats want to go, good luck to them.

00:44:30.000 And as for prosecution of Minnesota officials, honestly, we'll see where the investigation goes.

00:44:36.000 I mean, you have the Minnesota police chief, Amanda Mark Brulli, now claiming that officers who are people of color in the force feel victimized by ICE.

00:44:44.000 Like officers in the police are afraid of ICE if they're people of color.

00:44:48.000 Man, good luck with this.

00:44:49.000 I can't believe Democrats are going to get on this train again.

00:44:51.000 It's pretty astonishing.

00:44:53.000 Recently, as the last two weeks, we as law enforcement community have been receiving endless complaints about civil rights violations in our streets from U.S. citizens.

00:45:08.000 What we're hearing is they're being stopped in traffic stops or on the street with no cause and being forced to demand paperwork to determine if they are here legally.

00:45:20.000 Every one of these individuals is a person of color who has had this happen to them.

00:45:27.000 So, yeah, again, we'll be fascinating to see how this works out for Democrats if they are activating local law enforcement now to oppose the agenda of ICE.

00:45:36.000 Truly, man, Democrats seem capable of pulling pretty much any defeat from the jaws of what could be an electoral victory in 2026.

00:45:46.000 Well, here at the Daily Wire, we are hosting a documentary.

00:45:50.000 It premiered back in October.

00:45:51.000 It's really, really important.

00:45:52.000 It's called the 1916 Project, all about the origins of Planned Parenthood, which, of course, was born in 1916.

00:46:00.000 The host of the 1916 project is Seth Gruber, a leading voice in the pro-life movement who's spoken more than 300 times to over half a million people.

00:46:07.000 He's also the host of the Seth Gruber show.

00:46:09.000 Seth, thanks so much for taking the time.

00:46:11.000 Really appreciate it.

00:46:12.000 Thank you, Ben.

00:46:13.000 So, for folks who are unaware of the 1916 project, what is it?

00:46:17.000 Why is it important for people to take a look at it?

00:46:19.000 Yeah, thank you, brother.

00:46:21.000 I think one of my favorite lines about history, which is one of the reasons I've enjoyed your show, is just what you learn when you actually study your history, is from Elaire Belloc.

00:46:29.000 He was Chesterton's best friend.

00:46:31.000 And he said, to comprehend the history of a thing is to unlock the mysteries of its present and more to discover the profundities of its future.

00:46:42.000 So a fancy language for we actually don't study history to like nitpick over what happened then.

00:46:46.000 We study to understand what's happening now and kind of be able to predict and prophesy where these ideas go if they're not stopped.

00:46:52.000 And so having spoken to conferences, churches all around the country, I found that even like rock-ribbed warrior, culture warriors, Christians, had no idea about the sordid history of Planned Parenthood beyond like, oh, what it was like eugenics, right? 0.90

00:47:08.000 Or didn't she do the Negro Project? 1.00

00:47:10.000 And that's about it.

00:47:11.000 And the history of it is so disturbing.

00:47:16.000 It's like, it's hard to, it was hard for me to finish writing the book and making the movie, which is, it's a book as well, which people can get anywhere.

00:47:22.000 And so we kind of played on the 1619 project as well, Ben, which was just kind of a god thing that the numbers switched.

00:47:28.000 And that was the first Planned Parenthood clinic because it was actually the 1619 Project Revolutionaries.

00:47:33.000 What was that?

00:47:33.000 Like end of 2019, fall of 2019, a few months before George Floyd.

00:47:37.000 And then everything's racist. 0.88

00:47:38.000 Any corporation that's based on or had a relationship with racism 100 years ago is racist and has to be burnt down.

00:47:45.000 And stranger than fiction, Ben, the 1619 Project Revolutionaries and BLM, they all went after Planned Parenthood in the summer of 2020. 0.66

00:47:54.000 And they said, hey, your founders are racist.

00:47:56.000 And then the director of Planned Parenthood of Greater New York, Karen Seltzer, the most hilarious liberal white woman name that you could possibly come up with, comes out and says, we're done making excuses for our founder and the damage she did to communities of color.

00:48:09.000 They stopped giving out the Margaret Sanger Award.

00:48:11.000 They took her name off the Sanger mega Planned Parenthood Manhattan Health Clinic, which just shut down, by the way.

00:48:17.000 And then New York City took off the sign called the Margaret Sanger Square. 0.77

00:48:21.000 So in other words, yeah, she was super racist and really bad. 0.99

00:48:24.000 Now nothing to see here move along.

00:48:26.000 And so it was actually 1619 Project academics and revolutionaries that kind of helped expose Planned Parenthood, finally dissing themselves from their founder.

00:48:35.000 So we opened up the book and the film, Ben, by saying, so what?

00:48:38.000 Wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:48:39.000 You defended her for 100 years and now out of nowhere, you canceled her because the revolution always eats its own.

00:48:44.000 Who was she really? 0.99

00:48:45.000 And what's the seed that has yielded this bitter harvest?

00:48:49.000 And we started with her first clinic in 1916.

00:48:52.000 So that's why we made it.

00:48:53.000 And we found that that's been the most powerful way to mobilize people who are like, oh, yeah, abortion's bad to go do something about it is when they see all the connections with the pedophilia movement, the eugenics movement, even the KKK and the Nazis.

00:49:06.000 That's not hyperbole.

00:49:07.000 That's not a Republican talking point that you and I say, Ben.

00:49:10.000 You know the history.

00:49:11.000 The connections will blow your mind.

00:49:13.000 So, you know, for folks who are unfamiliar with any of it, and I don't want to give away what's in the documentary because everybody should go to Daily Wire Plus and take a look at it.

00:49:21.000 But what is one of the most shocking things that people are going to find out about in the 1916 project?

00:49:26.000 Yeah, there's a lot of like jaw-dropping, like you need to like pause, pause, pause the film because you want to throw things at your TV.

00:49:32.000 So because there's so many, we'll give you maybe one of the most shocking ones that I've found in my research.

00:49:36.000 And this was difficult to even find.

00:49:38.000 The book's actually behind me here that has that bombshell.

00:49:42.000 It was very difficult to find.

00:49:43.000 You can't really find it anywhere else, but it's all footnoted.

00:49:45.000 The founding board member of Planned Parenthood, which actually for people, if you want to know, it was actually established in 1921 as an organization called the American Birth Control League, but her first clinic was in 1916 under Sanger.

00:49:58.000 And so his name's Lothrop Stoddard.

00:50:01.000 And we actually have the screenshots and the scans of original documents showing the first board of directors when the American Birth Control League was founded.

00:50:11.000 Lothrop Stoddard, who sat on the board, Ben, for years, was none other than the, quote, exalted cyclops of the Massachusetts KKK chapter.

00:50:24.000 And he wrote a couple books, one called The Revolt Against Civilization, The Menace of the Underman, another one called The Rising Tide of Color Against White World Supremacy. 0.62

00:50:33.000 But his Menace of the Underman, and I have the German translation back here.

00:50:37.000 I bought it from Germany, only one I could find for sale online.

00:50:40.000 I'm kind of a nerd with old books.

00:50:41.000 And the German party, the Nazi party, paid for the German translation of Lothrop Stoddard's book into German.

00:50:48.000 And when they translated Menace of the Underman, they translated it Untermenschen, which to some of my research is either the first time or one of the first times the Nazis begin to use that phrase, Untermenschen.

00:51:00.000 Lothrop Stoddard's books were assigned in German classrooms and reading schools during Hitler's reign.

00:51:08.000 They loved him so much, Ben.

00:51:10.000 They invited him to the Third Reich in 1939.

00:51:13.000 He wrote a book about it called Into the Darkness, Nazi Germany Today, published in 1940, right when he came back.

00:51:17.000 And he describes meeting with Himmler, Fritz Saucle, Robert Lay, and a brief meeting with Hitler himself.

00:51:23.000 To my knowledge, you might be the one to correct me on this.

00:51:25.000 To my knowledge, I think Lothrop Stoddard, Margaret Sanger's founding Planned Parenthood board member, is the only American to have had a face-to-face, private room, one-on-one meeting with Hitler after he rose to power, the founding board member of Planned Parenthood.

00:51:41.000 So that's one of the most shocking ones.

00:51:43.000 And you can't, it's historically verifiable.

00:51:47.000 Pretty shocking stuff, obviously.

00:51:49.000 Well, I also wanted to point out, Seth, that obviously it's a big week for the pro-life movement.

00:51:53.000 The Life or Death Conference is being hosted by you this Thursday.

00:51:57.000 You can go check it out at lifeordefcon.com.

00:52:00.000 It features our own Megan Basham.

00:52:02.000 What can people expect there?

00:52:03.000 Yeah, thank you.

00:52:04.000 We're really trying to step up in a big way with the overturning of Roe, which was right when I launched the White Rose Resistance, the ministry that made this film, because, you know, it goes back to the States.

00:52:13.000 And now there's this whole conversation about like, you know, how do we end abortion?

00:52:17.000 And we believe that this shocking, crazy thing, that the same laws that apply to infants that protect them from being murdered should be applied to unborn babies.

00:52:25.000 No one's out for mothers. 1.00

00:52:26.000 No one's criminalizing women.

00:52:28.000 We want to criminalize abortion because that's what good laws do. 1.00

00:52:31.000 They actually protect the innocent.

00:52:33.000 And unfortunately, there's a lot of pro-life groups.

00:52:35.000 We won't get into all that who disagree with that.

00:52:37.000 So we're really trying to mobilize people to see the battle lines and to contend for life in their state.

00:52:44.000 And so we've got incredible speakers, including, like you said, Megan Basham and others.

00:52:48.000 So that'll be the day before the March for Life in Washington, D.C. at Union Station in the nation's capital.

00:52:54.000 And of course, the March for Life is always one of the biggest things happening in Washington, D.C.

00:52:58.000 And it's always the thing the media love to ignore every single year.

00:53:01.000 So make sure you check that out as well.

00:53:02.000 Seth, thanks so much for the time member.

00:53:04.000 You should go check out your documentary, the 1916 Project over at Daily Wire Plus.

00:53:08.000 Thank you, Ben.

00:53:10.000 All righty, folks, the show continues for our members right now.

00:53:13.000 We'll get to the Supreme Court, where apparently Katanji Brown Jackson is, again, not doing a particularly good job.

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00:53:30.000 What was it like, Marlon, to be alone with God?

00:53:39.000 Is that who you think I was alone with?

00:53:44.000 Maradin, I knew your father.

00:53:47.000 I am yet convinced that he was not of this world.

00:53:52.000 All men know of the great Taliesin.

00:53:55.000 You are my father.

00:54:00.000 Princess Garris, savior of our people.

00:54:05.000 I know what the bull got offered you.

00:54:08.000 I was offered the same.

00:54:10.000 And there is a new part at work in the world.

00:54:13.000 I've seen it.

00:54:16.000 A god who sacrifices what he loves for us.

00:54:18.000 We are each given only one life, Singer.

00:54:21.000 No.

00:54:22.000 We're given another.

00:54:26.000 I learned of Yezu the Christ, and I have become his follower.

00:54:30.000 He's waiting on a miracle, and I think you can give him one.

00:54:34.000 Trust in Yezu. 0.87

00:54:35.000 He's the only hope for men like us.

00:54:38.000 Fate of Britain never rests in the hands of the Great Light.

00:54:41.000 Great light, great darkness.

00:54:44.000 Such things mattered to me then.

00:54:46.000 What matters to you now, Mistress of Lies?

00:54:50.000 You, nephew.

00:54:55.000 The sword of a high king.

00:54:59.000 How many lives must be lost before you accept the power you were born to wield.

00:55:06.000 Still clinging to the promises of a god who has abandoned you.

00:55:10.000 I cannot take up that sword again.

00:55:13.000 You know what you must do.

00:55:16.000 Great life, forgive me.

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