The Ben Shapiro Show - Trump STEAMROLLS CNN

00:00:00.000 Well, last night was Donald Trump's big town hall on CNN.

00:00:03.000 There was a lot of consternation at the halls of CNN over having Trump on in the first place.

00:00:07.000 About a year and a half ago, CNN was saying they would not have anybody on who had been an election denier.

00:00:12.000 Anybody who said that there was a rigged election in 2020 was not welcome on the airwaves at CNN.

00:00:16.000 Chris Licht came in, the new head of CNN.

00:00:18.000 He said, we're going to open this thing up and we're going to allow broader conversations.

00:00:21.000 But there was one problem for CNN last night.

00:00:23.000 When they had Donald Trump on, they did not Not prepare Caitlyn Collins.

00:00:27.000 Not only was Caitlyn Collins not really prepared, Caitlyn Collins came at the entire event from the wrong angle and Donald Trump just steamrolled her.

00:00:34.000 It was the best night that Donald Trump has had in this primary, period.

00:00:38.000 It was the best day that he's had in this primary, period.

00:00:40.000 It was better than the day that he went to Ohio and he spoke with all the people who had been affected by the train crash.

00:00:45.000 It was the best day for him.

00:00:45.000 Why?

00:00:46.000 Because Donald Trump is a creature who thrives on opposition. 0.99

00:00:49.000 And Donald Trump is the guy who you want to bet on him in a fight mainly because he's crazy and he might hit somebody with a kitchen sink. 0.98

00:00:56.000 He's like a cartoon character. 0.98

00:00:57.000 If he's in a fight, he might actually just reach into his back pocket and pull out a giant jackhammer.

00:01:01.000 And you're like, how did that jackhammer even fit in that pocket?

00:01:03.000 I don't even understand.

00:01:04.000 It's like, but it's a cartoon, so he can't.

00:01:06.000 He just pulls out the jackhammer, just goes to town.

00:01:08.000 Hey, that is Donald Trump in a debate.

00:01:10.000 And so when Republicans see Donald Trump being oppositional, and when he's faced with an oppositional person like Caitlyn Collins, Republicans resonate to that.

00:01:18.000 Now, does that mean that Donald Trump has a better shot of winning in a general election because he can beat up Caitlyn Collins on CNN over election stuff?

00:01:25.000 No, but it does make Republicans really, really happy, which means there's a lot of kayfabe going on last night.

00:01:32.000 Kayfabe is the WWE sort of fake conflict that's going on. 0.98

00:01:35.000 Understand something.

00:01:36.000 Donald Trump needs CNN.

00:01:38.000 This is why Donald Trump went on CNN.

00:01:40.000 Donald Trump requires opposition from the left, so that he is fighting the left, so that Republicans see him as their man.

00:01:46.000 They see him as their representative.

00:01:48.000 And CNN needs Donald Trump to be the nominee, because CNN, ever since Donald Trump has been president, When he left the presidency, CNN's ratings took a nosedive.

00:01:55.000 They have not recovered yet.

00:01:56.000 They are in serious trouble.

00:01:57.000 And so they need, desperately, Donald Trump to be the nominee.

00:02:01.000 And that was the dynamic that played out in full force last night.

00:02:04.000 And you can see this, right?

00:02:05.000 Donald Trump was super happy about going on CNN.

00:02:06.000 Now, if you are normally, you know, a Republican, you look at the Republican candidates, the first rule of Republican politics is don't walk into a rigged interview. 1.00

00:02:15.000 It's a stupid thing to do. 1.00

00:02:15.000 Don't do it. 1.00

00:02:17.000 Don't put yourself in a position where you're going to be asked a bunch of ridiculously biased questions, and then the media is going to cut it up and use it for campaign ads on behalf of the Democrats.

00:02:24.000 Don't do it.

00:02:24.000 But Donald Trump did it.

00:02:25.000 Why did Donald Trump do it?

00:02:26.000 Because he knows.

00:02:27.000 He knows that the thing that makes people love him, I think rightly, the thing that makes people love him is the fact that he will just deliver a roundhouse, wild, flailing punch to somebody out of left field, using whatever is at his disposal.

00:02:41.000 Again, just pick up a frying pan off the counter, pick up a toaster and just smack somebody with it.

00:02:45.000 And the Republicans cheer if they don't like that person enough.

00:02:48.000 And that's what happened last night.

00:02:49.000 So Trump was ready for it.

00:02:50.000 Trump, before the event even began, he went on his social media channels and he started pumping it up.

00:02:56.000 Here's Donald Trump's announcement.

00:02:58.000 I'll be doing CNN tonight, live from the great state of New Hampshire, because CNN is rightfully desperate to get those fantastic Trump ratings back.

00:03:08.000 They were ratings like none other, and they want them back.

00:03:13.000 They made me a deal I couldn't refuse.

00:03:15.000 Could be the beginning of a new and vibrant CNN with no more fake news, or it could be a total disaster for all, including me.

00:03:24.000 Let's see what happens tonight at 8 o'clock.

00:03:27.000 Okay, that's the exact same problem he would do if he was actually wrestling in WWE.

00:03:30.000 It could be a disaster.

00:03:31.000 It could be unbelievable. 0.85

00:03:32.000 It could be me hitting somebody with a chair.

00:03:34.000 It could be me doing my count.

00:03:36.000 No one knows.

00:03:38.000 Trump's setting it up, right?

00:03:40.000 And CNN billed this entire event wrong.

00:03:43.000 And they billed the entire event wrong if the idea was to ask Donald Trump relevant questions to Republican voters.

00:03:48.000 So here's one of the lies that CNN told.

00:03:50.000 CNN billed this as a Republican town hall.

00:03:52.000 So what did they do?

00:03:53.000 They brought in a bunch of people who are Republican primary voters.

00:03:55.000 Those Republican primary voters presumably would like Donald Trump to answer questions on things that Republicans care about.

00:04:01.000 Let me list things Republicans don't care about.

00:04:03.000 Here's a list.

00:04:04.000 In random order of things Republican primary voters do not care about.

00:04:08.000 E. Jean Carroll.

00:04:09.000 January 6th.

00:04:11.000 Georgia election questions.

00:04:13.000 The missing documents from the National Archives.

00:04:15.000 Alvin Bragg's allegations about campaign finance and Stormy Daniels. 0.96

00:04:18.000 That's just a small list of things that Republican primary voters do not give any crap about at all.

00:04:24.000 Here's a list of things that Republican voters probably care about.

00:04:27.000 If you're talking about Donald Trump, why did Donald Trump appoint Anthony Fauci and then listen to him throughout the pandemic while condemning both Ron DeSantis and Brian Kemp for reopening their states?

00:04:36.000 Why did Donald Trump do criminal justice reform at the behest of Kim Kardashian in the middle of the Black Lives Matter riots?

00:04:42.000 These are questions that, like, if you want to ask a tough question of Trump, these would be the tough questions.

00:04:46.000 On the election fraud argument, President Trump, if you believe that the 2020 election was fraudulent, what would you do to reverse that result other than saying things about it on Truth Social?

00:04:55.000 Like, what's your actual plan?

00:04:56.000 Because all of the Secretary of State candidates that you ran in the 2022 election lost, all of them.

00:05:01.000 Many of the senators that you picked lost.

00:05:02.000 So what is your plan to reverse that?

00:05:03.000 If you think it was stolen, how do you stop from being stolen again?

00:05:06.000 If you say, I'm up in the polls, well, so what?

00:05:08.000 The polls aren't the election and you say the election was stolen last time.

00:05:11.000 So how do you, like, these are questions that I think every Republican wants to know the answers to because those go to, should I vote for you or should I vote for the other Republican?

00:05:18.000 So what did Caitlin Collins ask last night?

00:05:20.000 She asked none of those questions.

00:05:22.000 She asked instead about E. Jean Carroll, January 6th, Georgia election questions, National Archives, Alvin Bragg, right?

00:05:27.000 She asked all the questions Democrats want to hit Trump over.

00:05:30.000 Now, this is a dynamic that works perfectly for Trump.

00:05:32.000 This is Trump's favorite dynamic.

00:05:33.000 It's the best dynamic.

00:05:34.000 It's the dynamic where he's got a Democratic moderator and a Republican audience.

00:05:38.000 This is like the dream scenario for Trump.

00:05:40.000 All he has to do is just knock Caitlyn Collins through the wall, leaving a Caitlyn Collins-sized hole in the wall, cartoon style.

00:05:48.000 That's all he has to do.

00:05:49.000 And that's precisely what he did last night.

00:05:50.000 He just steamrolled her. 0.98

00:05:51.000 He turned her into like the Judge Doom pancake.

00:05:54.000 And to the cheers of Republican audiences and to the lament of many on the Democratic side of the aisle, because here's the thing.

00:06:01.000 Democrats, they have two conflicting wishes.

00:06:03.000 One, they want Trump to be nominated because they think he's eminently beatable.

00:06:06.000 And two, they really hate Trump and they want to see him clocked.

00:06:09.000 But the thing is, the way that you are going to clock Trump if you are a Democrat is not by asking him about all the things you already hate him about.

00:06:15.000 Republicans already know that.

00:06:16.000 Everybody already knows that.

00:06:17.000 You're going to have to ask him something new.

00:06:19.000 You're going to actually have to, if you're going to fact check him the way that Caitlin Collins is trying to, you actually have to be prepared for him to do what he does, which is say a thing and not really care about how true it is.

00:06:27.000 You're actually going to have to play a video of him, right?

00:06:29.000 If you're Caitlin Collins, this is just from the interviewer's perspective.

00:06:32.000 If you're going to do a fact check, the way that you do that typically is you do what Jonathan Swan has done, right?

00:06:36.000 So what Jonathan Swan, the reporter, has done with many people he's talked to is he will ask them a question.

00:06:42.000 He knows they're going to lie.

00:06:43.000 And then he says, OK, let's roll the tape.

00:06:44.000 And then he rolls the tape and it shows that they're saying precisely the reverse five seconds ago.

00:06:48.000 But Caitlin Collins didn't do any of that. 0.89

00:06:49.000 So instead, she just looked flustered as Donald Trump ran right over her.

00:06:52.000 We're going to get to the clips of this because it was a very successful night for Donald Trump in the primaries.

00:06:56.000 How that impacts the general election is anybody's guess, because again, that goes back to, is Donald Trump a super electable candidate?

00:07:02.000 Or is he just sort of the alternative to the dead man who's really bad at his job in the White House right now?

00:07:07.000 We'll get to all this in a second, because again, the best quality of Trump is his aggressiveness, and that was on full display last night.

00:07:13.000 I mean, that was an aggressive performance by President Trump.

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00:08:19.000 Okay, so let's get to the actual main event.

00:08:24.000 So Trump walks out, and it's very obvious from the beginning this is gonna be a good night for Trump.

00:08:28.000 The reason is, the crowd is stacked for Trump.

00:08:30.000 Trump loves crowds.

00:08:32.000 It is the thing he is most responsive to.

00:08:33.000 It's a problem for him in terms of general election audiences, because Trump, as a great performer, and he is, he's a terrific performer.

00:08:40.000 Understand that Trump is a lifelong performer.

00:08:42.000 He responds to people in the room.

00:08:44.000 So anyone who's ever performed in front of a crowd has to have a good eye and ear for the audience they're responding to.

00:08:49.000 This is why a good comic is very reliant on the response of the crowd.

00:08:52.000 There's nothing worse for a comic than you get on stage.

00:08:54.000 And Trump is basically a comic.

00:08:55.000 You get on stage and the audience is just dead.

00:08:58.000 If the audience is dead, it's very difficult to do a good show.

00:08:59.000 This is a live audience.

00:09:00.000 This audience is ready for Trump and Trump is ready for them.

00:09:03.000 So he walks out and there's a standing O and he is ready to go, man.

00:09:07.000 Please welcome the frontrunner for the Republican nomination, former president Donald Trump.

00:09:11.000 Look how happy he is.

00:09:20.000 It's like his night.

00:09:21.000 He's getting a standing O before he even sits down in a Republican, in a Republican primary town hall event.

00:09:27.000 Now, again, this is like the best thing for him because he's not going to be asked about anything that Republicans care about.

00:09:33.000 He's going to be asked, as we'll see, about only issues Democrats care about, and then he is just going to hit Caitlyn Collins over and over and over and over.

00:09:40.000 That is the entire strategy.

00:09:42.000 Massive failure of imagination.

00:09:43.000 Now, imagine this were another candidate, say it was Brian Kemp, Ron DeSantis, Nikki Haley.

00:09:47.000 All the questions, presumably, would be about things that many Republicans actually do care about.

00:09:51.000 If it were Ron DeSantis, then what you'd be getting are questions about COVID.

00:09:55.000 You've been getting questions about him taking on Disney.

00:09:57.000 You've been getting questions on policy.

00:09:59.000 For Trump, it's all about Donald Trump personally. 0.99

00:10:01.000 And Republicans, when Donald Trump is attacked personally, they take it personally because they understand that Democrats have no standards on this crap. 0.98

00:10:08.000 That Democrats are perfectly willing to allow Democrats to get away with anything. 0.98

00:10:11.000 Right?

00:10:11.000 That the same Caitlyn Collins, who asks Donald Trump about E. Jean Carroll's allegation that he raped her in a dressing room at Bergdorf, that that same exact Caitlyn Collins will never ask Joe Biden about Tara Reade.

00:10:25.000 Never, right?

00:10:26.000 Tara Reade alleged something very similar about Joe Biden, in what I think is a significantly more credible fashion.

00:10:32.000 And yet, that apparently is of no consequence.

00:10:34.000 So when people go after Trump on the personal sort of stuff, on the personal conduct sort of stuff, everybody on the right's like, that's all baked into the cake.

00:10:41.000 What, you didn't know the guy?

00:10:42.000 He's been in the public eye for literally his entire adult life.

00:10:45.000 Are we supposed to be surprised by it?

00:10:46.000 And this is what you choose to spend the entire 75 minutes on?

00:10:50.000 Seriously?

00:10:51.000 So Caitlin Collins leads off.

00:10:53.000 by asking about the election.

00:10:56.000 And Trump then claims that the election was rigged.

00:10:59.000 And then she, instead of saying, I want, like, specifics, and then saying, okay, here's a tape of, like, if you're gonna go this way, right, if you're gonna go this way, you better have the receipts.

00:11:08.000 And her just arguing with him, it turns into a he said, she said, whatever, they're all saying things, and then the attitude is what matters more than anything.

00:11:16.000 You either come with the receipts or you don't come with the receipts.

00:11:18.000 So here's Caitlyn Collins versus Trump on the quote-unquote rigged election.

00:11:22.000 If you look at the FBI and Twitter, they call it Twitter files.

00:11:27.000 Made a big difference.

00:11:27.000 If you look at- Mr. President, back to what you just said there, though, it

00:11:31.000 was not a rigged election.

00:11:32.000 It was not a stolen election.

00:11:34.000 You and your supporters lost more than 60 court cases on the election.

00:11:38.000 It's been nearly two and a half years.

00:11:39.000 Can you publicly acknowledge that you did lose the 2020 election?

00:11:42.000 Let me just go on.

00:11:44.000 If you look at True the Vote, they found millions of votes on camera, on government cameras, where they were stuffing ballot boxes.

00:11:52.000 So with all of that, I think it's a shame that what happened.

00:11:55.000 I think it's a very sad thing for our country.

00:11:58.000 So what did she think he was gonna say there?

00:12:00.000 He's been saying this stuff.

00:12:01.000 I mean, shouldn't you be prepared?

00:12:03.000 Like, just as the moderator, you should be prepared for that sort of thing, should you not?

00:12:07.000 By the way, what he's saying at the very end there is not even true, okay?

00:12:08.000 I know Katherine Engelbrecht, at Truth or Vote, we had her on the show when 2000 Mules came out, and she explained that that's not even what she was alleging.

00:12:16.000 Okay, so what he's saying there is actually not true, but she doesn't know how to fact-check him because she actually hasn't studied the issue because she didn't take it seriously in the first place.

00:12:22.000 She just blew it off. 0.75

00:12:24.000 Okay, so Trump says that sort of stuff and also notice how she conflates in the question rigged and stolen.

00:12:28.000 Those are not the same thing.

00:12:30.000 I will say that the 2020 election was rigged in the sense that all the voting rules were changed before the election, right?

00:12:35.000 I'm not a stolen election guy.

00:12:36.000 I don't think that voter fraud decided the 2020 election.

00:12:38.000 I think Trump lost, but that does not actually mean that the election wasn't rigged.

00:12:43.000 When you bar stories from coming out in the month before the election through a series of bullcrap maneuvers, using the federal government and the Joe Biden campaign to issue statements about Hunter Biden's laptop, that they're Russian disinformation, and you launder that into public view using the mechanisms of government, that's super duper corrupt!

00:12:58.000 That's really bad!

00:13:00.000 When you talk about changing all the voting rules, when you have major social media companies shutting down entire news media accounts, when you have attempts to actively Fund ballot harvesting in major states.

00:13:14.000 When you do all that, of course that changes the course of the election.

00:13:16.000 Of course it's rigged in sort of an informal sense.

00:13:18.000 But she just conflates the two.

00:13:20.000 So instead of saying, we're not talking about that, are you saying that voter fraud decided the election?

00:13:25.000 Right?

00:13:25.000 She didn't get specific.

00:13:26.000 She gives Trump the opening.

00:13:27.000 And so this is just the beginning.

00:13:29.000 Okay?

00:13:29.000 This is just the beginning of Trump steamrolling her.

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00:14:35.000 Okay, so then, Caitlyn Collins starts asking Donald Trump about regrets surrounding January 6th.

00:14:41.000 And again, If you're a Republican voter, you don't care.

00:14:44.000 We've litigated this 100 times.

00:14:46.000 You don't care.

00:14:47.000 This is a Democrat question from a Democrat moderator for a Democrat audience, but in front of, in a room, a very friendly to Trump Republican audience.

00:14:55.000 How do you think that's going to go over?

00:14:57.000 Even the question means that the audience is begging for Trump to put Caitlyn Collins through a wall, and that's what he does right here.

00:15:01.000 Do you have any regrets about your actions on January 6th?

00:15:07.000 Well, you know, January 6 was again, we go back to it.

00:15:10.000 But January 6 had to do with the fact that hundreds of thousands of people and you don't see the pictures very often.

00:15:17.000 A lot of the people here probably were there January 6.

00:15:20.000 It was the largest crowd I've ever spoken to.

00:15:23.000 That was prior to the walk down to the Capitol building.

00:15:27.000 I don't think and I've spoken to hundreds of thousands of people.

00:15:30.000 I've never spoken to a crowd as large as this.

00:15:33.000 And that was because they thought the election was rigged.

00:15:35.000 And they were there proud.

00:15:37.000 They were there with love in their heart.

00:15:39.000 That was an unbelievable and it was a beautiful day.

00:15:43.000 Okay, so Democrats are like, I can't believe he's saying this about January 6th.

00:15:46.000 And Republicans are like, why are we still talking about January 6th?

00:15:48.000 And I'm so glad that he's putting the wood to people who are still talking about January 6th.

00:15:52.000 Those differential responses are coming from two different realities.

00:15:55.000 CNN pledged they were going to be in one reality, and they're not.

00:15:57.000 They're just asking the stuff that CNN viewers supposedly want to hear.

00:16:01.000 But the problem is, for CNN viewers, they're like, yeah, but you ask him and then you have to call him on it.

00:16:05.000 You have to stop him from doing it.

00:16:06.000 So CNN is actually in trouble with its own viewers.

00:16:09.000 Because CNN basically pledged two different things to two different audiences.

00:16:13.000 To Republicans, they pledged, we are going to ask fair questions that you care about to Donald Trump.

00:16:17.000 They didn't do that.

00:16:19.000 They pledged to CNN audiences what CNN audiences expected, which is Caitlyn Collins will get Trump in the crosshairs and then go for the kill. 0.98

00:16:25.000 And instead, Trump just walked all over her.

00:16:27.000 So CNN audiences are pissed off too.

00:16:29.000 But here's the end goal for CNN.

00:16:31.000 For CNN, as long as Trump's the nominee, they are happy.

00:16:33.000 Because guess what?

00:16:33.000 Their ratings last night were great.

00:16:35.000 Like the best ratings that they have had in probably three years.

00:16:38.000 Okay, there was a point last night, again, when we're talking about Trump walking all over Caitlyn Collins.

00:16:41.000 So she says, you waited three hours to say anything about people who are storming the Capitol.

00:16:45.000 But Trump, because Trump is, again, very good at this, Trump then proceeds to take out of his pocket a full timeline of his activities, January 5th and January 6th, and then read it to her.

00:16:56.000 This is excellent performance art.

00:16:58.000 I mean, it is performance art by President Trump.

00:16:59.000 He literally takes out of his pocket a physical piece of paper and he starts reading to her his timeline.

00:17:06.000 It's smart.

00:17:06.000 Here we go.

00:17:08.000 They were breaking into the Capitol, smashing windows, injuring police officers.

00:17:12.000 Why did it take you three hours to tell them to go home?

00:17:15.000 I don't believe it did.

00:17:16.000 Oh, let me pull it out.

00:17:17.000 I have to pull it out.

00:17:22.000 I am asking for everyone at the U.S.

00:17:26.000 Capitol to remain peaceful.

00:17:28.000 This is right after, as it was happening.

00:17:31.000 But what happened is they took it down.

00:17:34.000 I don't know why.

00:17:35.000 I think they took it down because it was so good they didn't like it being up there.

00:17:39.000 Mr. President, I looked at the same timeline that you did.

00:17:41.000 No, I know, but you didn't report that.

00:17:43.000 You know why?

00:17:44.000 Because it was taken down.

00:17:45.000 We did report it.

00:17:47.000 Okay, so, it was 1.45, I mean the technical timeline is 1.45 p.m., is when people started surging past the Capitol Police.

00:17:55.000 And at 2.13 p.m., that is when Mike Pence had to be evacuated from the floor.

00:18:00.000 And then at 2.24 p.m. so this is like you know 45 minutes later Trump tweeted about Pence.

00:18:05.000 Mike Pence didn't have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our country

00:18:08.000 and our constitution. And then at like 2.26 he called Mike Lee and then Trump tweeted at 3.13

00:18:16.000 asking for people to remain peaceful.

00:18:18.000 So it was like an hour and a half when he said that he asked for everyone to remain peaceful.

00:18:22.000 So it wasn't three hours, it was like an hour and a half.

00:18:23.000 So Trump is right to fact-check her on that, right?

00:18:26.000 He's correct to fact-check her on that, but that's still a significant period of time, obviously.

00:18:30.000 But it doesn't matter, because again, Trump wins the exchange.

00:18:33.000 Trump is out there and he fact-checks her, and he does it by taking out a piece of paper.

00:18:37.000 And then he didn't just, he didn't stop there, right?

00:18:39.000 Again, Trump's entire mode here is never back down, never apologize, run him over.

00:18:43.000 And for Republican voters, that's like catnip, man.

00:18:45.000 That is what you've been waiting for.

00:18:47.000 After years of Mitt Romneyism and John McCainism, and let's compromise and we'll all be nice to each other.

00:18:51.000 And meanwhile, the Democrats are just shivving you in the guts.

00:18:54.000 And a person named Ashley Babbitt was killed.

00:18:56.000 Yes.

00:18:56.000 You know what?

00:18:56.000 She was killed, and she shouldn't have been killed.

00:18:58.000 Meanwhile, Donald Trump is like, you want to try that?

00:19:00.000 Really want to try that? 0.54

00:19:01.000 I will strangle you here on the stage in front of everyone.

00:19:04.000 So he was asked about about violence at the Capitol building. 0.75

00:19:08.000 And he calls the cop who shot Ashley Babbitt a thug.

00:19:13.000 And a person named Ashley Babbitt was killed.

00:19:15.000 Yes.

00:19:16.000 You know what?

00:19:17.000 She was killed and she shouldn't have been killed. 0.99

00:19:19.000 And that thug that killed her. 0.95

00:19:20.000 There was no reason to shoot her at blank range, cold, blank range. 0.98

00:19:26.000 They shot her.

00:19:28.000 And she was a good person.

00:19:29.000 She was a patriot.

00:19:30.000 There was no reason.

00:19:31.000 There was no reason.

00:19:32.000 OK, so again, he's just going right at it.

00:19:36.000 Never back down.

00:19:37.000 That motto is what gets Republicans super, super pumped for the twenty twenty four.

00:19:41.000 Now, is that going to pay off with independence?

00:19:43.000 I don't see any poll data that suggests it will.

00:19:47.000 I don't think it will.

00:19:49.000 But, for Republican voters, again, it's the attitude that matters.

00:19:52.000 It's the attitude that matters.

00:19:52.000 And Trump's got that attitude, man, and he will never drop that attitude, and that's why Republican voters love the guy to death.

00:19:57.000 In just one second, we will get to Trump's response to the E. Jean Carroll stuff. 0.98

00:20:00.000 Again, CNN only asked questions that Democrats give a crap about. 0.96

00:20:04.000 We'll get to that momentarily first. 0.98

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00:21:07.000 Okay, so...

00:21:08.000 After CNN finished asking Trump about election 2020 and January 6th, then they moved on to other issues of vital importance to Republican voters like E. Jean Carroll.

00:21:16.000 Now, I understand Kaitlin Collins has to ask Trump about this.

00:21:19.000 There was a verdict yesterday in a civil case in which Donald Trump was found liable for sexual abuse or sexual touching.

00:21:29.000 And for defamation, but not for rape and all of this. 0.87

00:21:31.000 I understand she has to ask him, but if you think this is like top of mind for Republican voters, you're out of your mind.

00:21:35.000 Republican voters don't think of this as top of mind at all.

00:21:38.000 In fact, most Republican voters see the E. Jean Carroll allegations in the same way that I do.

00:21:43.000 By the way, I think most reasonable people see those allegations in the same way that I do, which is they came 30 years after the fact.

00:21:49.000 Every verifiable detail had been obscured by E. Jean Carroll.

00:21:53.000 The trial really was about you don't like Donald Trump and you don't like him, but grab him by the comment.

00:21:58.000 That was the thing that the trial was really about.

00:22:02.000 So, she doesn't just go after Trump on this, and Trump gets really aggressive.

00:22:05.000 Again, the aggression is the point.

00:22:09.000 The action is the juice.

00:22:11.000 The aggression is the point.

00:22:12.000 So here is Trump being asked about Eugene Carroll and saying, like, you think that's making me less popular?

00:22:17.000 Wrong.

00:22:19.000 Usually you leave office, you say, I'm sorry, but I'm going to back home.

00:22:22.000 I'm back home to my family and everything.

00:22:24.000 I'm going to be resigned.

00:22:25.000 My poll numbers went up and they went up with the other fake charge, too, because what's happening is they're doing this for election interference.

00:22:33.000 This woman, I don't know her.

00:22:35.000 I never met her.

00:22:36.000 I have no idea who she is.

00:22:37.000 OK, and then he goes even further.

00:22:42.000 He starts going through, like, serious details that were not allowed in court.

00:22:46.000 It talks about the fact that E. Jean Carroll is a kooky lady. 1.00

00:22:48.000 Because guess what?

00:22:49.000 She's a super kooky lady. 1.00

00:22:50.000 She was a sex advice columnist back in the 1990s. 0.96

00:22:53.000 And then, as we played yesterday on the show, she literally went on CNN after the allegations about Trump and she said, I think most people find rape sexy.

00:22:59.000 What in the actual... So here was Donald Trump going after her.

00:23:03.000 And I'm sorry, but it's funny.

00:23:05.000 Okay?

00:23:07.000 Her allegation... It's not my fault that E. Jean Carroll is a weirdo. 0.78

00:23:11.000 That is not my fault.

00:23:13.000 It's not.

00:23:13.000 And the fact that she decided to... I mean, like, I challenge you to watch this clip of Donald Trump and not laugh.

00:23:19.000 I know everybody's tutting him.

00:23:21.000 Oh my gosh, he's not taking her allegations seriously.

00:23:23.000 First of all, if you were falsely accused of rape, you might also not take the allegations particularly seriously.

00:23:29.000 Here's Donald Trump, and the audience is laughing.

00:23:31.000 The audience isn't laughing because they think rape is okay. 0.99

00:23:33.000 They're laughing because they think that her allegations are silly.

00:23:38.000 I had a picture taken years ago with her and her husband, nice guy, John Johnson.

00:23:42.000 He was a newscaster, very nice man.

00:23:45.000 She called him an ape. 0.60

00:23:46.000 Happens to be African-American. 0.99

00:23:48.000 Called him an ape. 0.78

00:23:49.000 The judge wouldn't allow us to put that in. 0.99

00:23:51.000 Her dog, or her cat, was named Vagina. 0.97

00:23:55.000 The judge wouldn't allow it to put that in. 0.99

00:23:57.000 I got nothing man.

00:24:06.000 What do you want?

00:24:07.000 What do you want?

00:24:08.000 So the media are like, you laughed?

00:24:09.000 How would you laugh?

00:24:11.000 What do you mean, how would I laugh? 0.98

00:24:13.000 He's like, she named her cat Vagina. 0.98

00:24:19.000 That's funny. 0.96

00:24:21.000 What do you want?

00:24:21.000 OK, and then again, and then and then he's being tutted over that.

00:24:26.000 This is not a strategy to get Donald Trump.

00:24:28.000 This is a strategy to prop up Donald Trump, if you are CNN.

00:24:31.000 Oh, man.

00:24:31.000 And then he's asked about the Access Hollywood tape.

00:24:33.000 And again, he just goes right at Caitlyn Collins.

00:24:37.000 You defended the comments that you made on that Access Hollywood tape about being able to grab women how you want.

00:24:43.000 Do you stand by those comments?

00:24:45.000 said if you're famous the audience already said but I said of your star you

00:24:51.000 are and I said women let you I didn't say you grip I said women let you know 0.64

00:24:56.000 you didn't use that word but if you look women let you now they said will you 1.00

00:25:01.000 take that back I said look for a million years this is the way it's been

00:25:06.000 I want to be honest, this is the way it's been.

00:25:09.000 I can take it back if you'd like to, but if you're a famous person, if you're a star, and I'm not referring to myself, I'm saying people that are famous, people that are stars, people that are rich, people that are powerful, they tend to do pretty well in a lot of different ways, okay?

00:25:31.000 Millenia! 0.99

00:25:32.000 Ever since we emerged, the amoebas, they call them amoebas, they emerged from the primordial ooze.

00:25:40.000 The famous amoebas have been able to grasp by the **** the non-famous amoebas.

00:25:45.000 That's what they've been able to do.

00:25:47.000 I can lie.

00:25:48.000 I can lie if you want me to.

00:25:49.000 I can lie.

00:25:50.000 But I'm not gonna lie!

00:25:51.000 I'm not gonna lie.

00:25:52.000 I'm not gonna lie.

00:25:55.000 What do you want? 1.00

00:25:56.000 These are ridiculous questions and Trump is treating them with the ridiculousness they deserve. 0.99

00:26:00.000 And also like this is the back to the I'm not going to speak BS. 0.99

00:26:03.000 I'm going to tell you the truth, Donald Trump.

00:26:06.000 And people are like, OK, all right, particularly Republican voters.

00:26:08.000 Now, as we'll talk about in a second, I keep saying it, but it's true. 0.99

00:26:12.000 Republican voters, I want you to think with your brains instead of thinking with your balls for a second. 0.99

00:26:17.000 OK, like I understand the appeal. 0.99

00:26:19.000 I get it.

00:26:19.000 It's super funny and it's fun to watch Donald Trump knock people about.

00:26:23.000 It's fun to watch the kayfabe.

00:26:25.000 It's fun to watch Donald Trump playing roller derby with people.

00:26:29.000 It's great.

00:26:30.000 But I have to ask you a question.

00:26:32.000 Do you think independents are watching this and going, oh, that guy, he should be president?

00:26:36.000 That's really the question.

00:26:38.000 Okay, but this is why I say CNN had a goal.

00:26:41.000 Raise the ratings, make Caitlyn Collins a hero because she asked Trump difficult questions, and three, make sure that Trump is the nominee because it raises the ratings and makes Caitlyn Collins a hero.

00:26:50.000 So they actually achieved it for all of the consternation that the left is feeling today.

00:26:53.000 Chris Licht has to be pretty happy.

00:26:57.000 He got the numbers, didn't he?

00:26:58.000 And he's going to get more numbers if Donald Trump is the nominee.

00:27:00.000 And Donald Trump will keep coming on CNN because this is a great moment for Donald Trump on CNN.

00:27:06.000 Finally, about like 45 minutes or 50 minutes into this thing.

00:27:09.000 Finally, Caitlyn Collins, like maybe I should ask you about, you know, things that actually

00:27:12.000 matter.

00:27:13.000 So she asks him, for example, about the debt ceiling standoff.

00:27:16.000 And Trump gives like a fairly decent answer on this.

00:27:20.000 What do you think about the United States current debt situation and how can we move

00:27:24.000 forward?

00:27:25.000 Such an important question.

00:27:27.000 So we're at $33 trillion, a number that nobody ever thought possible.

00:27:32.000 When we have a debt limit, and they use that very seriously.

00:27:36.000 I mean, they came in, Schumer came in with Nancy Pelosi and they were using it.

00:27:40.000 We'll violate it.

00:27:41.000 We'll do whatever.

00:27:42.000 They talked a whole lot different than they do right now.

00:27:44.000 I say to the Republicans out there, congressmen, senators, if they don't give you massive cuts, you're going to have to do a default.

00:27:52.000 And I don't believe they're going to do it before because I think the Democrats will absolutely cave.

00:28:00.000 OK, so again, not a bad answer there.

00:28:02.000 And when he talks about the fact that Democrats just keep spending and spending and spending, I think most Americans actually resonate to that.

00:28:07.000 Then he was asked about guns and he again said the correct thing.

00:28:10.000 He said it's a mental health problem that we're talking about here, not really a guns problem.

00:28:14.000 Here was Trump on the Second Amendment.

00:28:16.000 With gun violence and mass shootings in the news cycle recently, I'm worried that state governments and the federal government are going to act to repress gun rights.

00:28:23.000 Under your administration, you instructed the Department of Justice and the ATF to ban bump stocks.

00:28:28.000 If elected president again, how would you act not only to defend our Second Amendment rights, but to restore rights that have been taken from us, such as, by example, recently the ATF's ruling on the pistol stabilizing braces?

00:28:39.000 As you know, the bump socks are actually a very unimportant thing.

00:28:43.000 And NRA, I went with them and they said it doesn't mean anything.

00:28:46.000 Or actually, all they do is teach you how to shoot very inaccurately.

00:28:49.000 So we did that.

00:28:50.000 There's been nobody that's protected the Second Amendment, as you know, like I have.

00:28:54.000 I protected it through thick and thin.

00:28:56.000 Not easy to do.

00:28:57.000 But we have a very big mental health problem in this country.

00:29:01.000 And again, it's not the gun that pulls the trigger.

00:29:04.000 It's the person that pulls the trigger.

00:29:06.000 And we have to protect our Second Amendment.

00:29:09.000 Again, that's a very good answer.

00:29:10.000 Okay, then Trump was asked about his position on a federal law regarding abortion and Trump sort of took a middle line. 0.98

00:29:15.000 He sort of fucks the issue. 0.89

00:29:16.000 But, you know, again, not a bad answer. 0.95

00:29:19.000 I consider the other side to be radical because the other side under Roe v. Wade and other things, the other side, they're radical because they will remember the debate with Hillary Clinton.

00:29:29.000 They said rip the baby out of the womb at the end of the ninth month. 0.92

00:29:33.000 They will kill the baby In the ninth month. 0.97

00:29:36.000 If you look at that crazy governor of Virginia from the former governor, where he said, no, the baby will be born and then we'll decide essentially whether or not to execute the baby. 0.89

00:29:45.000 But Mr. President, can we talk about what you would do if you are re-elected? 0.79

00:29:47.000 No, but these are the radical people.

00:29:48.000 It's not the pro-life people that are radical.

00:29:50.000 But if you are re-elected and you're back in the Oval Office and you get legislation to your desk, would you sign a federal abortion ban into law?

00:29:57.000 What I'll do is negotiate so that people are happy.

00:29:59.000 They could kill the baby in the ninth month or after the baby was born. 0.56

00:30:03.000 Now they won't be able to do that.

00:30:05.000 But I think this is a really important question for you to answer because this is something every Republican, including those who are running against you for the nomination, are being asked about is would you sign a federal abortion ban into law?

00:30:15.000 And many of them are going to give you the same answer as I. I am, first of all, I am honored to have done what I did.

00:30:21.000 And a lot of people said, they said in 150 years, he's now the most consequential president because he saved so many lives.

00:30:29.000 And I'm honored to have done it.

00:30:32.000 OK, and this is a very good answer on abortion.

00:30:33.000 It's actually, I thought that just in policy terms, that was Trump's best answer of the night.

00:30:39.000 And so the combination of Trump knocking people through walls and actually giving some solid answers on, for example, the Second Amendment and abortion, that was good.

00:30:47.000 His answer, he was asked about Ukraine as well, and he played the game where he said, I'll end the war in Ukraine tomorrow.

00:30:53.000 I'm not sure how he would do that.

00:30:53.000 But again, that's what many people want to hear.

00:30:57.000 The question, however, is going to be on these issues, right?

00:31:00.000 If Trump ran on these issues, I've said this before, if Trump ran, On the platform.

00:31:04.000 Things were better when I was president, and here's how I will handle the current slate of issues.

00:31:08.000 Then he has an actual shot of beating Joe Biden in an election.

00:31:12.000 If the campaign is on the first hour of the Caitlin Collins content, he wins the primary and he has a real problem in the general.

00:31:18.000 Here was Donald Trump on Ukraine yesterday.

00:31:21.000 The current administration has made it clear that we should continue to provide military equipment to Ukraine so that they can defend themselves.

00:31:29.000 Do you support this decision and how would you deal with the increasing threat posed by Vladimir Putin?

00:31:35.000 First of all, thank you very much.

00:31:37.000 It's really nice.

00:31:38.000 And it's an important question.

00:31:39.000 So important because we're giving away so much equipment.

00:31:43.000 We don't have ammunition for ourselves right now.

00:31:45.000 We don't have ammunition for ourselves.

00:31:46.000 We're giving away so much.

00:31:47.000 But here's the thing.

00:31:48.000 I have to say it to start off.

00:31:50.000 No longer matters.

00:31:51.000 If I were president, this would have never happened.

00:31:54.000 And even the Democrats admit that Putin knew it would have never happened.

00:31:58.000 And his pipeline would have never happened.

00:32:00.000 A lot of things would have never happened.

00:32:02.000 But this would never have happened.

00:32:03.000 And all those dead people, both Russian and Ukrainian, they wouldn't be dead today.

00:32:09.000 And then Caitlyn Collins turned back to all the issues Republicans don't care about. 0.86

00:32:13.000 So there's like a brief interlude where Trump was asked about those questions.

00:32:16.000 There were no serious follow ups.

00:32:18.000 He was, you know, he was not asked to sort of dig down into what he meant by any of this stuff.

00:32:23.000 All the serious questions, all the sort of adversarial stuff was reserved mainly for all the personal stuff, which, again, is the stuff that Republicans want to see Trump hit back on.

00:32:30.000 And that all ended with Donald Trump basically doing what you knew Donald Trump was going to do at a certain point.

00:32:35.000 He just turned to Caitlyn Collins and to the hoots and applause of the crowd, called her a nasty person. 0.99

00:32:40.000 Which, again, this is not new.

00:32:41.000 It's not as though Donald Trump has never done this before.

00:32:43.000 He did this to Megyn Kelly.

00:32:44.000 He's done this to other moderators where he doesn't like the questions.

00:32:47.000 But here he did it last night, and this was sort of the moment of the night.

00:32:50.000 To the hoots and laughs of the crowd.

00:32:51.000 documents when you knew the federal government was seeking them and then had given you a

00:32:55.000 subpoena to return.

00:32:56.000 Are you ready?

00:32:57.000 Are you ready?

00:32:58.000 Can I talk?

00:32:59.000 Yeah.

00:33:00.000 What's your mind?

00:33:01.000 I would like for you to answer the question.

00:33:02.000 It's very simple.

00:33:03.000 That's why I asked it. 1.00

00:33:04.000 It's very simple that you are a nasty person. 1.00

00:33:07.000 I'll tell you. 1.00

00:33:11.000 To the hoots and laughter of the crowd again, it's like.

00:33:15.000 This is why.

00:33:16.000 OK, can Republicans like the guy because he says that sort of stuff specifically because

00:33:19.000 he says that sort of stuff because they feel so they're constantly being targeted by people

00:33:22.000 like the people at CNN.

00:33:25.000 And so that's how this thing finishes up.

00:33:27.000 I mean, this is, again, big win for, how big a win was this for Trump?

00:33:32.000 It was such a big win that I kid you not, the CNN town hall was slated for a 90-minute broadcast.

00:33:37.000 The network expected the actual event to go 75.

00:33:39.000 It went 70.

00:33:39.000 They cut it early.

00:33:42.000 The mercy rule applied.

00:33:44.000 They needed to get Trump off the air because he was just beating Kate and Collins up so bad.

00:33:48.000 OK, we'll get to the fallout from all of this in just one second, because there's fallout for Democrats who are very upset with CNN and upset that Trump has had the spotlight.

00:33:57.000 And then there's the fallout for Republicans, because again, anything that elevates Trump means it's more likely that he will be the nominee.

00:34:03.000 So what does that actually look like in practice?

00:34:05.000 We'll get to that momentarily first.

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00:36:03.000 Okay, now for the blowback. 0.68

00:36:05.000 There was big reaction to the town hall on CNN last night with Donald Trump and Caitlin

00:36:09.000 Collins.

00:36:10.000 The Democratic camp broke into sort of two separate camps.

00:36:14.000 In camp one are sort of the commentators, the commentators who are very upset that Donald

00:36:17.000 Trump was given this moment.

00:36:19.000 Now, are they really upset or are they kind of happy that Donald Trump is being elevated

00:36:22.000 to the center of the discourse?

00:36:23.000 I think the answer is there's some internal conflict over there.

00:36:26.000 Joe Scarborough, who's had himself a very rich history with Donald Trump, including

00:36:30.000 you'll remember during 2016, hosting Donald Trump regularly on MSNBC, including to watch,

00:36:35.000 you know, various debates and involve himself in various events.

00:36:38.000 And then he turned against him because Donald Trump was actually Hitler, which was weird because he was in the room with him five seconds ago. 0.62

00:36:42.000 Well, now Joe Scarborough is comparing that town hall to January 6th, which I've been informed by reliable sources, like Joe Scarborough, was the worst thing ever to happen in the United States.

00:36:51.000 It was just it was a disgraceful performance.

00:36:55.000 Yes.

00:36:56.000 I'm constantly telling people not to catastrophize over Trump that he's actually going to lose because he keeps drilling down deeper and deeper into his base.

00:37:11.000 But it is, I can't believe I'm going to use catastrophizing language here.

00:37:20.000 But it was just, it was disgraceful on every level.

00:37:24.000 What I saw last night at least was as chilling as anything I've seen on television since January the 6th.

00:37:33.000 Just chilling.

00:37:34.000 Just chilling. 0.82

00:37:35.000 And then there's a list of all the terrible, evil, very bad things that Donald Trump said that he puts up there, including the fact that he said that Caitlyn Collins is a nasty person. 0.55

00:37:44.000 Just chilling.

00:37:45.000 Just absolutely chilling. 1.00

00:37:46.000 Meanwhile, Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez, the irrepressibly stupid congresswoman from New York City, she tweeted out, CNN should be ashamed of themselves. 1.00

00:37:53.000 They've lost total control of this town hall to again be manipulated into platforming election disinformation, defenses of January 6th, and a public attack on a sexual abuse victim. 0.99

00:38:01.000 The audience is cheering him on and laughing at the host.

00:38:03.000 This falls squarely on CNN.

00:38:05.000 Everyone here saw exactly what was going to happen.

00:38:07.000 Instead, they put a sexual abuse victim in harm's way for views.

00:38:11.000 This was a choice to platform lies about the election and January 6th with no plan but to have their moderator interrupted without consequence.

00:38:16.000 Now again, of course that was going to happen because this program was directed at Democrats.

00:38:21.000 That was the lie.

00:38:22.000 If they directed at Republicans, they wouldn't have asked him and spent time on any of this stuff.

00:38:25.000 They would have asked about, you know, things that Republicans care about.

00:38:28.000 They didn't.

00:38:29.000 Instead, they asked him about stuff that AOC cares about, and then she's unhappy that Donald Trump didn't, like, crumble into a quivering ball of sadness in the corner, crying to himself and rocking.

00:38:37.000 Or maybe taking a picture of himself outside some sort of fence, wearing a white outfit and weeping for the cameras.

00:38:42.000 She's disappointed that Donald Trump was still Donald Trump, which is really funny.

00:38:48.000 Meanwhile, you had the Daily Beast's Justin Baragona.

00:38:50.000 He tweeted, And that's true. 0.99

00:38:51.000 There's a lot of blowback for CNN in all of this.

00:38:53.000 personality to me just now on the CNN town hall.

00:38:55.000 It's so bad.

00:38:56.000 I was cautiously optimistic despite the criticism.

00:38:58.000 It's awful.

00:38:59.000 It's a Trump infomercial.

00:39:00.000 We're gonna get crushed.

00:39:02.000 And that's true.

00:39:02.000 There's a lot of blowback for CNN in all of this.

00:39:05.000 Politico has an entire piece titled, How Trump Dominated CNN.

00:39:09.000 They say the live studio audience ate it up.

00:39:13.000 They cheered when he denied moderator Caitlin Collins' factual assertion he took three hours to tell the January 6th rioters to go home.

00:39:18.000 They applauded when he called E. Jean Carroll a whack job. 0.77

00:39:20.000 They laughed when he called Collins nasty and questioned whether she understood what she was talking about.

00:39:24.000 The night underscored how CNN has changed under the management of Chris Licht.

00:39:27.000 Before the town hall began, CNN faced heavy criticism, but it's pretty clear that everybody was very angry.

00:39:34.000 Does CNN count that as an in-kind campaign donation?

00:39:37.000 asked Dan Rather.

00:39:39.000 It was a complete disaster, one CNN employee told Playbook.

00:39:42.000 It made it seem like CNN was endorsing that behavior, the employee said, incredibly disappointing.

00:39:47.000 So on the one hand, you have the media and they're like, they're beside themselves.

00:39:51.000 Oh my God, we platformed again.

00:39:52.000 How could we do that?

00:39:52.000 It's so terrible.

00:39:53.000 How could we do that?

00:39:54.000 Oh, it's just, oh my, oh no.

00:39:56.000 It's just, it's just awful.

00:39:57.000 On the other hand, there are the Democratic politicos.

00:40:00.000 And let's be clear, the Democratic politicals, like the people who are interested in the 2024 election, not the posturing and preening of AOC, for example, the people who are actually up running against Donald Trump are very, very happy.

00:40:11.000 Joe Biden tweeted out immediately after this happened, quote, It's simple, folks.

00:40:14.000 Do you want four more years of that?

00:40:16.000 If you don't, pitch into our campaign.

00:40:18.000 His entire campaign relies on you thinking about Donald Trump 24-7, and in particular, thinking about the stuff that Caitlyn Collins was asking Trump about and that he seemed very warm to talk about.

00:40:29.000 If there's a confluence of interest between Donald Trump and CNN on the stuff that should be talked about in a Republican primary, namely, E. Gene Carroll, missing documents, Trump Organization foibles, January 6th, election rigging.

00:40:42.000 If Trump wants to talk about that and CNN wants to talk about it, Trump wants to talk about it because he loves that stuff and he loves talking about himself and all the victimization routine that he does.

00:40:51.000 He loves that stuff.

00:40:51.000 It's his favorite thing to talk about.

00:40:53.000 I mean, check Truth Social.

00:40:53.000 It's what he does 80 to 90% of the time.

00:40:56.000 And if CNN loves talking about it because it pleases the base and also elevates Trump, then the chances are very strong that Trump ends up the nominee.

00:41:03.000 And then meanwhile, when it comes to the actual election, it doesn't play all that great because this is what Democrats are begging for.

00:41:09.000 They're openly doing it.

00:41:10.000 Democrats want, I mean, you can, you can vote for him.

00:41:14.000 If you vote for him in primary, he still has a shot at winning the general for sure.

00:41:17.000 Because again, Joe Biden is a terrible president with a very low approval rating.

00:41:21.000 But does Donald Trump run a greater risk of losing to Joe Biden than other candidates?

00:41:24.000 Well, of course he does.

00:41:25.000 He lost to him last time by 7 million votes in the popular vote.

00:41:30.000 And aside from, like, some national polls showing him competitive with Biden in the early going, on a state-by-state level, the polls do not show Donald Trump winning a majority in places like Georgia, Arizona, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan.

00:41:44.000 Those are the actual stats that matter, by the way.

00:41:46.000 And so, CNN, counter to popular opinion, everybody got what they wanted last night.

00:41:51.000 Instead of seeing everybody as sort of dissatisfied, we should see everybody as pretty satisfied.

00:41:55.000 CNN's Chris Lick got the ratings, and he elevated Trump.

00:41:57.000 Trump got elevated, and he got to shellacked Kaitlyn Collins.

00:41:59.000 Kaitlyn Collins got to stand up to Trump, and appear to be a sort of heroine for doing so.

00:42:04.000 Everybody got what they wanted.

00:42:05.000 Except for, you know, the Republican primary voter, who got the enjoyment of watching the slap fight on CNN.

00:42:11.000 I'm watching the WWE slap fight.

00:42:13.000 But no real answers on sort of the clarifying questions that might determine who you would vote for in a primary.

00:42:19.000 Again, if you look at the polling data right now, probably 25 to 30 percent of the Republican base is set on Trump.

00:42:23.000 Fine.

00:42:23.000 But there's another 70 percent who might have wanted to hear some answers to those questions.

00:42:26.000 None of those questions were even asked last night.

00:42:29.000 And if you look at the data, there's a guy named Chris Wilson, who's the head of data for a group called Never Back Down.

00:42:36.000 And he quotes, this is a DeSantis group, but he quotes a study from WPA Intel, analyzing research, and what they found is that Trump probably cost Republicans in 2022 15 seats, 11 in the House and 4 in the Senate.

00:42:52.000 And down ballot, he elevated Democrats.

00:42:54.000 So, you know, again, does that mean that Trump necessarily will lose?

00:42:56.000 No.

00:42:57.000 Is Trump wildly entertaining?

00:42:58.000 Absolutely.

00:43:00.000 There's no way to watch Trump last night on CNN and look away.

00:43:03.000 You can't look away.

00:43:04.000 Democrat, Republican, Independent, you can't look away.

00:43:06.000 But that's the entire problem.

00:43:08.000 If you are focused on Donald Trump, you know who you are not focused on.

00:43:10.000 The old man in the White House who is directly running this country into the ground like a 747 at full speed, cutting the engines.

00:43:17.000 I mean, it's an amazing thing.

00:43:20.000 We have a border crisis, an economic crisis, a social crisis, and foreign policy crises, plural.

00:43:25.000 And meanwhile, we're talking about Donald Trump and Eugene Carroll.

00:43:29.000 Who does that benefit?

00:43:31.000 It benefits Trump.

00:43:32.000 For the moment.

00:43:33.000 Does it benefit Republicans in the long run?

00:43:35.000 I have some serious doubts.

00:43:37.000 So here's the thing.

00:43:37.000 If we're all talking about Trump on CNN last night, you know what we're not talking about, and what Joe Biden would prefer that we not be talking about, is the allegations of corruption that have now been brought to the fore by the House Oversight Committee Republicans.

00:43:48.000 So according to News Nation now, the House Oversight Committee claims it uncovered evidence indicative of the Biden family's influence peddling and financial deception on Wednesday, warranting further investigation and legislative solutions.

00:43:58.000 Representative James Comer is the committee chairman.

00:44:00.000 Here he was laying out some of the allegations.

00:44:04.000 Every one of those subpoenas returned valuable information that had been unreported and that contributed to this committee's understanding of how the Bidens conducted their businesses.

00:44:15.000 The committee is concerned by the complicated, suspicious network of over 20 companies.

00:44:22.000 We have identified the Bidens and their associates used to enrich themselves.

00:44:28.000 Most of these companies were limited liability companies formed during Joe Biden's vice presidency.

00:44:35.000 The bank records show the Biden family, their associates, and their companies received over $10 million from foreign nationals and their companies.

00:44:47.000 And that's a lot of money.

00:44:48.000 The committee is accusing Joe Biden of lacking transparency regarding the family business, claiming the bank records reveal the Biden family received millions of dollars from foreign sources.

00:44:57.000 Now the media are immediately jumping on this saying, well, you haven't shown that Biden received any of the money.

00:45:00.000 Right.

00:45:00.000 That's why they're doing further investigation.

00:45:02.000 Also, you might, you know, point out at this point that it's weird that the entire Biden family, like everyone, was picking up foreign cash while Joe Biden was vice president of the United States.

00:45:12.000 Comer wrote a memo saying the transactions in Romania and China show related but separate issues identified by the committee that raise serious questions about financial disclosures and risks to national security.

00:45:21.000 So again, they were picking up like giant bags of cash pretty much everywhere.

00:45:23.000 We got Romania, we got China, we've got Ukraine.

00:45:25.000 Like, name a country and there's a good shot that a Biden family member was picking up cash from there while Joe Biden was VP.

00:45:32.000 Comer alleged that nine Biden family members had received foreign-sourced payments.

00:45:36.000 These include Joe Biden's brother and Hunter's uncle, James Biden, Hunter Biden, James Biden's wife, Sarah, Beau Biden's widow, and Hunter Biden's ex-girlfriend, Hallie Biden, Hunter Biden's ex-wife, Kathleen Buell, Hunter Biden's current wife, Melissa Cohen, and three children of Joe Biden and or of James Biden, all recipients of such payments.

00:45:54.000 Now, you know what might be helpful is if we actually had access to all the information.

00:45:58.000 Unfortunately, they're not getting access to all that information.

00:46:03.000 Because, as it turns out, the FBI is actually refusing to give Congress the information that it currently seeks.

00:46:08.000 Now, imagine for a second that the Democratic Congress had sought documents on the relationships between Donald Trump's kids and foreign sources.

00:46:16.000 And the FBI were like, nah, don't think so.

00:46:18.000 The media would be all over it, right?

00:46:19.000 And you'd be like, wow, that's kind of weird that the FBI, which is in the executive branch run by Donald Trump, is not giving over the information that might be damaging to his kids.

00:46:27.000 The FBI is in the executive branch.

00:46:28.000 Still, Joe Biden is president.

00:46:29.000 And now, according to the New York Post, the FBI has refused to give Congress an informant file alleging that President Biden took bribes while he was VP.

00:46:36.000 House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comey issued a legally binding subpoena last week, requiring the FBI to turn over the file by noon on Wednesday.

00:46:43.000 The Bureau instead replied with a six-page letter raising various objections.

00:46:46.000 FBI Acting Assistant Director for Congressional Affairs Christopher Dunham said, information from confidential human sources is unverified, and by definition, incomplete.

00:46:53.000 Oh, so now we're gonna worry about unverified information being released into the public.

00:46:57.000 That's weird, because I'm old enough to remember when the head of the FBI, James Comey, laundered into the public view of the Steele dossier.

00:47:05.000 I'm old enough to remember that. 0.96

00:47:06.000 And the SEAL dossier was nothing but unverified crap. 0.98

00:47:09.000 And yet it somehow made its way into the halls of government and then into the press. 0.99

00:47:13.000 Weird how this works.

00:47:14.000 So if it's unverified information about the Trumps, it hits the press.

00:47:17.000 If it's unverified information about the Bidens, we gotta keep that secret, man.

00:47:19.000 That's a problem.

00:47:21.000 Denham said, as is clear from the name itself, confidentiality is definitional to the FBI's confidential human source program.

00:47:26.000 Confidential human sources often provide information to the FBI at great risk to themselves and their loved ones.

00:47:32.000 Comer then slammed the FBI's stonewalling.

00:47:34.000 He said it's clear from the FBI's response that the unclassified report the oversight committee subpoenaed exists, but they are refusing to provide it to the committee.

00:47:42.000 Pretty wild stuff.

00:47:43.000 So there's a document somewhere in the halls of the FBI alleging open bribery of Vice President Biden and the FBI won't turn it over to Congress.

00:47:50.000 Because we're supposed to trust them.

00:47:52.000 Well, let's just say that our trust in the FBI is at low ebb.

00:47:55.000 Now, this should be one of the big stories of the day, should it not?

00:47:59.000 Or how about the fact that the Biden administration, when it was the campaign, the Biden campaign worked hand in glove With members of the former Intel community in order to lie about Hunter Biden's laptop and claim it was Russian disinformation.

00:48:12.000 And now we find out that according to the Washington Examiner, at least 11 ex-intelligence officials who signed that letter have scored numerous visits to Joe Biden's White House.

00:48:21.000 Between October 2021 and January 2023, 11 letter signers frequented the White House a total of 24 times.

00:48:26.000 24!

00:48:26.000 four times 24 so wouldn't that be a but we're not talking about that

00:48:33.000 What are we talking about?

00:48:33.000 We're talking about Trump and Eugene Carroll and how he beat somebody up at a town hall.

00:48:38.000 As long as the focus is on Donald Trump, Joe Biden is strengthened.

00:48:41.000 It is this simple.

00:48:42.000 When it comes to a binary election, wherever the focus is, is where people are focused.

00:48:47.000 And the other person is just skating by.

00:48:49.000 That's exactly what Joe Biden did in 2020.

00:48:51.000 Now, in 2020, he was able to do that because of COVID.

00:48:53.000 He was able to sit in the basement and do nothing.

00:48:55.000 Maybe he won't be able to do that in 2024.

00:48:56.000 Or maybe he will.

00:48:57.000 Because maybe, A man who loves attention so much that every camera has to be on him will allow the attention to be drawn to him and away from the guy who's really bad at this because every day Joe Biden proves he's unfit for this job.

00:49:08.000 Yesterday, Joe Biden got lost on stage again.

00:49:12.000 Set that work days without accident sign back to zero.

00:49:15.000 Here's Joe Biden getting lost.

00:49:21.000 Where is he going?

00:49:21.000 No one knows.

00:49:23.000 Again, where?

00:49:24.000 I don't know.

00:49:25.000 It's over here?

00:49:25.000 Where?

00:49:26.000 Where'd you make it?

00:49:27.000 Oh boy!

00:49:30.000 Okay, he got lost twice.

00:49:34.000 That was one time yesterday.

00:49:35.000 And then he got lost again.

00:49:38.000 I'm not being solicitous.

00:49:40.000 What we should be doing, and I'm proposing when I try to finish this job, and proposing that we, for example, if we start instead of Head Start, which they want to cut 21,000 Head Start spots in this state alone, We should be sending, all the studies show that if we sent, no matter what the background of a child, if we sent that child to a school at age 3, learning reading, writing, arithmetic, to age 3 and 4 and 5, we end up increasing by 56% the chance they'll graduate from high school and go on beyond high school.

00:50:16.000 He's rambling nonsensically.

00:50:18.000 This is our President of the United States.

00:50:19.000 Meanwhile, inflation is now embedded in the American economy.

00:50:21.000 According to the Wall Street Journal, the Labor Department reported Wednesday that consumer prices rose 4.9% in the year through April.

00:50:27.000 That is the lowest in two years.

00:50:28.000 It's down from 9%.

00:50:29.000 It is still two and a half times what the Federal Reserve is seeking.

00:50:33.000 Inflation is embedded.

00:50:35.000 Core inflation, excluding food and energy, Is 5.5% in April.

00:50:39.000 That's down only slightly from 5.6% in March.

00:50:42.000 On a monthly basis, core prices rose 0.4%, that's equivalent to 5% at an annual rate that's in line with the past four months.

00:50:49.000 Originally, they say the inflation was about the pandemic and supply chain problems with Ukraine, but that's not the fact at this point.

00:50:54.000 Now it's just embedded in the American economy.

00:50:56.000 And the more it's embedded in the American economy, the more your savings are worth less.

00:51:00.000 Meanwhile, we don't just have a breeding, a burgeoning economic crisis thanks to the catch-22 in which the Federal Reserve finds itself.

00:51:07.000 Either they allow inflation to become permanently embedded in the American economy, or they raise those interest rates.

00:51:11.000 By raising the interest rates, they undercut regional banks.

00:51:13.000 By undercutting regional banks, they necessitate more inflation.

00:51:16.000 We also have a crisis on the border.

00:51:19.000 Right now, over 10,000 people a day are arriving on America's southern border.

00:51:22.000 And Joe Biden's answer is, well, you know, the border is, you know, it's a chaotic place.

00:51:27.000 And then, you know, there's also an M.O.

00:51:31.000 Here we go.

00:51:31.000 Joe Biden.

00:51:32.000 Oh, it's been broadcast for a number of years.

00:51:48.000 So, yeah, I noticed you've also been president for a number of years and it got way worse while you were president.

00:51:53.000 And then the person backing up, Joe Biden is even worse at this than Joe Biden.

00:51:56.000 Again, if the focus is on the Democrats, they lose.

00:51:58.000 If the focus is on Donald Trump, Donald Trump probably loses.

00:52:01.000 This is the simple binary of any election.

00:52:05.000 Why isn't the focus on Kamala Harris, who's the likely person to finish out Joe Biden's second term? 0.88

00:52:08.000 He will be 86 if he actually finished out his second term, and that dude is in a state of severe cognitive decline.

00:52:14.000 Here's the thing, Kamala Harris isn't in a state of cognitive decline, this is just her normal.

00:52:19.000 And it's pretty much as bad as Joe Biden in a state of mental decline.

00:52:22.000 Here is Kamala Harris trying to explain equity yesterday. 1.00

00:52:27.000 We also understand there's a difference between equality and equity.

00:52:32.000 Equity is everyone deserves to have, right?

00:52:35.000 And be treated equal.

00:52:37.000 But equity understands that not everybody starts out on the same base.

00:52:43.000 So if you're giving everybody an equal amount, but they're starting out on different bases, Are they really gonna have the opportunity to compete and achieve?

00:52:55.000 I'm gonna make some metaphors.

00:52:56.000 I'm gonna put them in a Venn diagram, the metaphor.

00:53:00.000 And then we're gonna feel better about buses.

00:53:07.000 That's the backup.

00:53:08.000 That's the backup plan.

00:53:10.000 This lady laughing at her own terrible jokes yesterday.

00:53:13.000 Ah, she's so awkward.

00:53:14.000 She makes Michael Scott look suave.

00:53:16.000 It's amazing.

00:53:18.000 Everything is in context.

00:53:21.000 My mother used to give us a hard time sometimes and she would say to us, I don't know what's wrong with you young people.

00:53:27.000 You think you just fell out of a coconut tree?

00:53:32.000 You exist in the context of all in which you live and what came before you.

00:53:40.000 She's the worst animatronic robot of all time. 1.00

00:53:43.000 Honest to God.

00:53:45.000 If she actually became president and Disney had to put her in Disneyland in the Hall of Presidents, the animatronic robot in the Hall of Presidents would be significantly more lifelike than Kamala Harris. 0.99

00:53:55.000 Kamala Harris is one of the few human beings I've ever seen who actively herself falls in the Uncanny Valley.

00:54:00.000 It's an amazing thing.

00:54:02.000 And yet, somehow, that's the... Again, if you focus on Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, they lose.

00:54:06.000 I'm gonna say it over and over again to all of my Republican colleagues.

00:54:09.000 Think about where you wish the focus of the election to be.

00:54:12.000 That would be the question.

00:54:14.000 Okay, meanwhile, in other news, George Santos has now pled not guilty.

00:54:18.000 I feel like he might be lying.

00:54:20.000 The reason I feel like that is because I don't actually know his real name.

00:54:23.000 And also, I don't know who he is or anything about him.

00:54:28.000 I mean, again, he's only marginally worse than other Congress people in this score.

00:54:33.000 Best Babylon Bee headline yesterday said, George Santos arrested 534 Congress people still at large.

00:54:40.000 I agree.

00:54:43.000 Here was George Santos yesterday saying that he's not going to resign.

00:54:45.000 Why would he resign?

00:54:46.000 That would require shame.

00:54:47.000 Shame is a characteristic in our politicians that no longer exists.

00:54:50.000 Shame is actually a problem for you.

00:54:52.000 If you're a politician and you're ashamed or capable of shame, this makes you vulnerable.

00:54:56.000 So George Santos is, he's sort of like the apex predator of shamelessness.

00:55:02.000 $750,000.

00:55:02.000 They said that you reported that wrongly.

00:55:06.000 Do you have any comment to that?

00:55:07.000 Like I said, I will be delivering all the finances of my company.

00:55:12.000 I'm delivering all my finances to them to dispel their accusation against me.

00:55:17.000 And again, you will not resign?

00:55:19.000 I will not resign.

00:55:22.000 Yeah, he's not going anywhere.

00:55:23.000 And by the way, why should he?

00:55:25.000 I mean, seriously, the qualifications for being in Congress right now do not include being sentient.

00:55:32.000 They wheeled, I'm not kidding, they literally, this is not even a joke, they wheeled Dianne Feinstein back into Washington D.C.

00:55:37.000 yesterday.

00:55:39.000 She's not going back to the Senate. 1.00

00:55:41.000 They're pretending that this is about her having shingles.

00:55:43.000 It's not about her having shingles.

00:55:44.000 She is not capable.

00:55:46.000 Everyone, including Democrats, recognizes she's not capable, but they refuse to actually oust her from the Senate.

00:55:50.000 She's 89 years old. 0.76

00:55:52.000 She does not have a functioning brain at this point.

00:55:54.000 And she's fine.

00:55:55.000 They've got John Fetterman in there.

00:55:57.000 And John Fetterman went absent from the Senate for like two months because of depression, because they forced a man who had a debilitating stroke to run for the Senate.

00:56:05.000 That makes George Santos like the third least qualified person to be in Congress at this point.

00:56:10.000 Here is Dianne Feinstein yesterday.

00:56:11.000 I mean, look at this tape.

00:56:12.000 I feel bad for her, honestly.

00:56:13.000 It's terrible.

00:56:14.000 Well, just moments ago, Senator Dianne Feinstein arrived back on Capitol Hill for the first time since February.

00:56:20.000 Looking healthy here.

00:56:21.000 As you can see, out of car, into a wheelchair. 1.00

00:56:23.000 The 89-year-old Democrat has been recovering from shingles.

00:56:27.000 In a statement released a short time ago, she said she is still experiencing side effects from the virus, and her doctors have advised her to work Things are going amazing.

00:56:35.000 Things are going absolutely amazing.

00:56:37.000 committee has held up the confirmation of multiple Biden nominated federal judges.

00:56:41.000 That prompted calls within her own party for her to resign.

00:56:44.000 But of course, now she's back up on the hill.

00:56:46.000 Things are going amazing. Things are going absolutely amazing. Okay. Meanwhile, on the

00:56:53.000 international scene, one of the greatest moral tests in America and abroad is how you feel

00:57:01.000 when terrorist groups fire rockets at random Jews in Israel.

00:57:05.000 If you are a bad person, then you think that there is a level of moral equivalence between people who deliberately fire rockets civilians and people who try to kill terrorists.

00:57:11.000 So here's some video.

00:57:12.000 Yesterday, there have been 200 rockets that fell yesterday in the middle of Israel from the Gaza Strip, which is run entirely by a terrorist group, Hamas.

00:57:20.000 Israelis are running from cover in the state.

00:57:21.000 You can see the sirens go off and literally you're just on the side of the road.

00:57:25.000 You pull over and you run for cover.

00:57:27.000 There are no bomb shelters available.

00:57:28.000 So you simply sort of hope that Iron Dome, which is this miraculous technology that is capable of shooting down rockets above major Israeli cities.

00:57:37.000 You hope that works.

00:57:38.000 Here's what that actually looks like and sounds like.

00:57:48.000 And that's life in Israel right now, where every so often, every few months, they just

00:57:51.000 have to worry about rockets falling in their major civilian sensors.

00:57:55.000 In the middle of that, the Democratic Party, at least some members of it, like Rashida Tlaib, who's a radical anti-semi-terrorist supporter, she decided it was a wonderful time to hold Nakba Day.

00:58:03.000 Nakba Day is, according to radical Palestinian activists, the day of Israel's establishment.

00:58:07.000 So they say that Israel is established On this day, therefore it is a disaster, it is a catastrophe. 0.99

00:58:12.000 Nakba means catastrophe in Arabic.

00:58:14.000 So Nakba Day literally means catastrophe day.

00:58:16.000 And it means the establishment of the state of Israel is a catastrophe that can only be rectified by the destruction of the state of Israel. 0.79

00:58:21.000 So she is commemorating that while terrorists fire rockets at the state of Israel because, you know, solidarity and all.

00:58:26.000 Originally, she was supposed to hold this in the house.

00:58:29.000 And then the House Democrats are like, no, we don't really want to be associated with this.

00:58:32.000 So she went to her best friend, Bernie Sanders, and Bernie gave her the space to hold Macba Day.

00:58:37.000 It was really exciting.

00:58:39.000 She vowed to defy Speaker McCarthy and hold Macba Day at the Capitol as the rockets fall on civilians in Israel.

00:58:45.000 I mean, hitting like empty school buildings and such.

00:58:49.000 Let me just point out here, you expect this from Rashida Tlaib, who's a radical anti-Semite. 0.97

00:58:52.000 Bernie Sanders is about as Jewish as a ham sandwich. 1.00

00:58:56.000 Bernie Sanders is a disgrace. 1.00

00:58:59.000 When people say that Bernie Sanders is Jewish, he's Jewish only in the technical sense that his mother was Jewish. 0.99

00:59:03.000 He has no connection to Judaism, he has no connection to Israel, he has no connection to Jewish values, he has no connection to anything remotely Jewish. 0.70

00:59:09.000 And using Bernie Sanders like a frontman for your radical anti-Semitic pro-terror activity, which is what Rashida Tlaib is doing here, demonstrates what a moral What a moral disgrace Bernie Sanders is. 0.85

00:59:18.000 He truly is a full-on moral disgrace.

00:59:22.000 According to the Jerusalem Post, House Speaker McCarthy had blocked her from holding Nakba Day because it turns out that what you typically don't want to do if you're in the American Congress is call the establishment of your allies a disgrace.

00:59:33.000 That same day, Palestinians fired 500 rockets at Israeli civilians, but Bernie Sanders let her hold the event in the Senate Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions hearing room.

00:59:42.000 Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer did not have the jurisdiction to stop the chairman from hosting meetings in their committee rooms.

00:59:49.000 And there, she argues that the Nakba never ended, meaning the continuation of the existence of the State of Israel is continuing to be a catastrophe.

00:59:58.000 The only solution for that, presumably, would be the disestablishment of the State of Israel, the destruction of the State of Israel, and the death of millions of Jews, because that's what would attend upon that. 0.98

01:00:05.000 Representative Cori Bush, adjunct member of the Squad, she attended the event as well.

01:00:11.000 These are just delightful, delightful people.

01:00:14.000 And a reminder that for all of the talk about, you know, the supposed anti-Semitism of Republicans, Rashida Tlaib takes the cake and so do her allies like AOC and Bernie Sanders and the like. 0.83

01:00:25.000 Okay, time for a quick thing I like and then a quick thing that I hate.

01:00:29.000 So, things that I like today.

01:00:32.000 So, Tom Hanks, old school Hollywood is beginning to sort of sound its voice.

01:00:38.000 You have Richard Dreyfuss, who the other day said he doesn't like any of this crap about how you have to have diversity qualifications in order to be nominated for an Oscar.

01:00:47.000 And you've had J.K.

01:00:48.000 Rowling, who sounded off and said that men are not women and women are not men.

01:00:51.000 And now you have Tom Hanks, who's vowing to boycott any book that is rewritten to avoid offending modern sensitivities.

01:00:57.000 He did a pre-recorded interview on BBC Radio on Tuesday.

01:01:01.000 And he was asked for his thoughts on editing Roald Dahl and Agatha Christie.

01:01:04.000 And he said, Well, I mean, good for Tom Hanks.

01:01:05.000 we're all grown-ups. We understand the time and place and when those things were written.

01:01:07.000 It's not very hard at all to say that doesn't quite fly right now, does it? Let's have faith

01:01:11.000 in our own sensibilities here instead of having someone decide what we may or may not be offended

01:01:14.000 by. Let me decide what I'm offended by and not offended by.

01:01:17.000 I'd be against reading any book from any era that says abridged due to modern sensitivities.

01:01:21.000 Well, I mean, good for Tom Hanks. The fact that this is now considered like a

01:01:24.000 controversial proposition is pretty amazing.

01:01:25.000 This should be pretty simple.

01:01:28.000 If you're an old-school liberal, on this show, I make a very big distinction between liberals and the left.

01:01:33.000 I do not think they are the same.

01:01:34.000 I think there are some liberals who are of the left, and there are many members of the left who would consider themselves liberals, but they are not the same group.

01:01:40.000 They are overlapping, but not identical.

01:01:43.000 If you're an old school liberal, you disagree with me on taxes, you disagree with me on abortion, you disagree with me on a wide variety of issues.

01:01:48.000 But, you believe in free speech, and you believe that people should be able to say what they say, and you believe that old authors shouldn't be bolderized in order to make people feel better about the now.

01:01:56.000 If you're on the left, you believe that basically anything you don't like is morally evil, and therefore ought to be banned from the public sphere.

01:02:02.000 That is the difference between liberals and the left.

01:02:04.000 So, Tom Hanks, like an old school liberal, it's good to see some sanity left in Hollywood from people like Tom Hanks.

01:02:09.000 Okay, time for a quick thing that I hate.

01:02:15.000 Okay, this may be the most indicative headline in terms of American society I've ever seen.

01:02:21.000 Okay, here's the headline.

01:02:22.000 This is from the Associated Press, quote, Trans minors protected from parents under Washington law.

01:02:29.000 Let me read that again.

01:02:30.000 Trans minors protected from parents under Washington law.

01:02:35.000 So, here's what's happened.

01:02:37.000 The state of Washington has now passed a law That will prevent parents of kids who claim that they need gender affirming care, meaning to chop off their genitalia or carve fake genitalia or get hormone treatment.

01:02:51.000 The state of Washington will now prevent parents from having input on any of that.

01:02:55.000 So the state is more important than the parents.

01:02:57.000 Because the predominant assumption of that headline is that parents are the threat to children, not the state.

01:03:04.000 Not the social media infrastructure, which dictates a social contagion, saying that boys are girls and girls are boys.

01:03:09.000 No, the real threat is parents.

01:03:11.000 Again, trans minors protected from parents under Washington law. 0.93

01:03:15.000 They have to be protected from their own parents.

01:03:17.000 Their parents are the predators.

01:03:19.000 Not the state that is removing a minor child from the care of their parents because the parent says to a little boy that he's a little boy, not a little girl.

01:03:25.000 The state is the protector.

01:03:26.000 The parents are the people who have to be shunted aside.

01:03:29.000 Very, very important.

01:03:30.000 According to the Associated Press, The new law is part of a wave of legislation this year in Democratic-led states intended to give refuge amid a conservative movement in which lawmakers in other states have attacked trans rights and limited or banned gender-affirming care for minors.

01:03:42.000 I mean, so many euphemisms there that you lose count.

01:03:45.000 Licensed shelters and host homes in Washington had generally been required to notify parents within 72 hours when a minor came into their care.

01:03:51.000 Which makes sense, right?

01:03:52.000 Your kid goes missing.

01:03:53.000 You don't know where your kid is.

01:03:55.000 They show up in Washington State in a homeless shelter.

01:03:57.000 The homeless shelter is supposed to call you within three days.

01:03:59.000 But under the new law, facilities can instead contact the State Department of Children, Youth, and Families, which could then attempt to reunify the family if feasible.

01:04:07.000 So the state decides whether you're reunified with your missing child.

01:04:10.000 Youths will be allowed to stay at host homes, private volunteer homes that temporarily house young people without parental permission.

01:04:16.000 That's not a recipe for predators at all.

01:04:18.000 You have a group of people like, yes, I'll take your child.

01:04:21.000 I'm happy to take your child from you.

01:04:23.000 Your child wants a gender transition? 0.98

01:04:24.000 They're welcome here.

01:04:25.000 I will be their new mommy, says the male.

01:04:30.000 Inslee said, quote, With this bill, Washington leads the way by taking a more compassionate, developmentally appropriate, reasoned approach to support these youth as they access gender-affirming treatment and reproductive health care services.

01:04:41.000 So apparently it's also going to be about abortion.

01:04:43.000 So you have a kid, your kid runs away, your kid wants an abortion, they run to Washington State, go to a homeless shelter.

01:04:47.000 You don't get the call.

01:04:48.000 The state of Washington gets the call and determines whether you're an unfit parent.

01:04:52.000 This is like Orwellian stuff. 0.99

01:04:54.000 Separating kids from parents on the basis that Jay Inslee and people, Youth Services of Washington know best for your child about whether they might carve a false flesh penis from their arm. 0.99

01:05:06.000 It's just vile. 1.00

01:05:07.000 Vile, disgusting.

01:05:08.000 This should be, by the way, a pretty obvious violation of constitutional rights. 0.90

01:05:12.000 If you're a parent, you have rights over your child.

01:05:14.000 The state of Washington does not have rights over your child to prevent you from seeing your child because you don't believe that your child is a member of the opposite sex. 0.75

01:05:22.000 This is insane.

01:05:24.000 Legislation, says the AP, is intended to keep estranged young people housed, according to experts and lawmakers sponsoring the bill.

01:05:30.000 The bill does not address custody, and would not result in the state taking children away from their homes and parents.

01:05:34.000 That's exactly what the bill does!

01:05:35.000 It literally says that parents don't even have to be notified if there's a disagreement between the child and the parents.

01:05:40.000 The Washington legislation requires the State Department of Children, Youth, and Families to make a good-faith attempt to notify parents after they are contacted by shelters or host homes and offer services designed to resolve the conflict and accomplish a reunification of the family.

01:05:52.000 Family reunification efforts would be pursued when possible.

01:05:55.000 But when possible is the entire thing.

01:05:58.000 Because they'll just say it's not possible to reunify the family.

01:06:01.000 You won't accept it.

01:06:02.000 Your son has a daughter.

01:06:03.000 This means that it's not possible to reunify you guys. 0.94

01:06:06.000 Vile, disgusting, but this is where we have come.

01:06:12.000 This is the wages of social leftism. 0.99

01:06:15.000 And for children, they may very well be, at the very least, mutilation and maybe death.

01:06:19.000 Alrighty, guys.

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