The Ben Shapiro Show - January 09, 2018


Trump’s America | Ep. 449

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Trump goes to the College Football National Championship game, Lena Dunham breaks up with her boyfriend, and President Trump is called crazy by everyone, but is the 25th Amendment really a thing? Ben Shapiro explains why President Trump should have been at the National Championship Game and why it was a good idea for him to go to it. He also explains why it s a smart move for President Trump to attend the game, and why he should have gone to the Super Bowl or the MLB All-Star Game, too, if only he wasn t so distracted by the controversy surrounding the National Anthem and the way he walked into the stadium with the ROTC units from the University of Alabama and University of Georgia, and the boos and jeers from the media. And finally, he explains why this is a smart political move, even though he didn t watch a single second of the game and is not a big college football fan of college football at all, and what it means for the country and the country at large college football fans who were there to cheer him on last night in Tuscaloosa, Alabama and in College Station, Georgia, for his appearance at the game and why you should be mad at him for going to the game at all of that even if you don t actually care about college football or don t even care about it if you re not a sports fan of that sort of thing What s going on in your life right now? and what s going to do with it? What are you doing with your time in Atlanta, Alabama, Georgia and Alabama? And what s your thoughts on it, and who are you going to be watching the game next week? Is it a good move by President Trump at the CHAMPIONSHIP? or not? Do you care about the national championship game, or are you just watching it, or do you care more about the game or not what you re watching it and not watching it in any other way? Or are you watching it because it s gonna be watching it or watching it on social media or watching to watch it on the internet or watching other people s social media, or listening to it on your phone or something else, or just watching the news and not listening to the actual game on the airwaves or whatever you re doing it on TV or social media and not caring about what s happening in real time you re just watching anyway?

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00:00:00.000 President Trump goes to the college football national championship game.
00:00:04.000 Lena Dunham breaks up with her boyfriend.
00:00:06.000 What was he thinking for five years? 0.61
00:00:08.000 And President Trump is called crazy by everyone.
00:00:10.000 But is the 25th Amendment really a thing or not so much?
00:00:13.000 Ben Shapiro, Ben Shapiro Show.
00:00:20.000 Oh yeah, so last night was apparently an amazing national championship football game.
00:00:24.000 I will admit that I did not watch one single second of it.
00:00:26.000 Number one, because I'm not a big college football fan.
00:00:28.000 Number two, because I cut the cord a while ago and I don't have any of the alternatives to actually watch the game.
00:00:34.000 But, there was a lot to talk about because of a lot of virtue signaling by some folks on the left and President Trump goes down and sings the national anthem and the whole deal.
00:00:41.000 We'll talk about all of it, but before we get to any of that, first, I want to say thank you to our sponsors over at Blinkist.
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00:02:32.000 We begin with last night's national championship game.
00:02:35.000 Apparently the Georgia Bulldogs lost the game in overtime to Alabama, the Crimson Tide.
00:02:43.000 And it was apparently a classic game, but I'm not going to talk about the game because I didn't watch a minute of the game.
00:02:48.000 What I did see was all of the hubbub surrounding President Trump.
00:02:51.000 So President Trump arrives at the game.
00:02:53.000 And I think it's important to note something.
00:02:55.000 For all the media coverage, which is 95% negative about President Trump, for all the hatred of President Trump among Democrats, for this widespread sentiment that President Trump is deeply unpopular and no one likes him, in places like Alabama, in places like Georgia, Trump is still a deeply popular figure.
00:03:10.000 And that was in evidence last night at the Alabama-Georgia game, where, of course, fans of both teams were there, and both of those states are very red states.
00:03:18.000 So Trump walks into the stadium, and the way the media covered this, the press pool said there was a mixture of cheers and boos.
00:03:24.000 I don't see that.
00:03:25.000 What I heard and what I saw from a number of different accounts that were posted was that it was almost entirely cheers with a few scattered boos mixed in.
00:03:32.000 Here is what it looked like when President Trump walked into the stadium.
00:03:36.000 Rise and welcome members of the ROTC units from the University of Georgia and the University of Alabama, joined by our president, Donald J. Trump.
00:03:57.000 Okay, so people were pretty enthusiastic about Trump arriving.
00:04:00.000 It's a good move for Trump to go to the national championship game.
00:04:03.000 Politically speaking, Barack Obama used to do this to every sporting event he could find.
00:04:06.000 He went to the baseball all-star game where he threw out the first pitch like a girl. 0.95
00:04:09.000 He went to the, I believe went to the NCAA championships at one point, or at least he used to go on ESPN every year and talk about the NCAA championships.
00:04:18.000 He used to appear before the Super Bowl every year.
00:04:20.000 He was in front of every camera he could find.
00:04:22.000 So for all the people saying, what is Trump doing at the national championship game?
00:04:25.000 The answer is that Obama did a lot of these exact same things.
00:04:29.000 It's also, again, smart of Trump to go, considering that the teams that were involved are going to draw fans who are fans of his.
00:04:34.000 And it wasn't just Trump showing up and walking with ROTC.
00:04:37.000 It was also that he stood for the national anthem.
00:04:39.000 So obviously, this has been a major controversy for a long time in the United States, whether he should kneel or stand for the national anthem.
00:04:45.000 President Trump has stoked that controversy for political gain for about the last six months.
00:04:50.000 And President Trump shows up and he stands for the national anthem.
00:04:53.000 If you think that these imagistics don't matter, if you think the image doesn't matter when Trump does that, you're sorely mistaken.
00:04:59.000 People care much more about the president signaling patriotism than they do about the latest regulatory policy.
00:05:05.000 It's one of the reasons Trump was elected president.
00:05:07.000 One of the reasons that Trump was elected is because people perceived that Barack Obama was uncomfortable with the trappings of patriotism.
00:05:13.000 Obama was the kind of guy who'd go abroad and talk about how all countries had their patriotism.
00:05:17.000 He was a guy who originally, you recall, was ripped for not wearing a flag pin enough until he decided to reverse himself.
00:05:22.000 You know, Trump, for all the talk about, you know, the problems with his perspective on America, and I've talked a lot about some of the problems I think his perspective on America holds, Trump has a gut-level patriotism or at least a gut-level nationalism that resonates with people.
00:05:34.000 Him standing there for the national anthem on the field with the members of ROTC is smart politics and it plays with a lot of his base.
00:05:41.000 Here's what it looks like last night.
00:05:52.000 And that reminds me of another image of Trump.
00:05:55.000 You remember there was an image where one of the members of his honor guard at the helicopter, the helicopter Air Force One, I'm not sure, I can't remember what they call it, and the guy's hat blew off.
00:06:05.000 And you remember that Trump went and grabbed the guy's hat and put the guy's hat back on his head.
00:06:09.000 There's a feeling that Trump, at a root level, likes the country.
00:06:13.000 And that Trump at a root level doesn't feel scorned for the country.
00:06:16.000 And that's the reason for his popularity.
00:06:18.000 So Trump actually stands there and he sings along with the National Anthem.
00:06:20.000 Now, naturally, the left has to find a way to mock Trump.
00:06:22.000 So what they do instead is they suggest he doesn't know the words to the National Anthem. 1.00
00:06:26.000 This is all part and parcel of their new pitch that Trump is not just stupid, he's actually crazy. 1.00
00:06:30.000 He doesn't know the words to the National Anthem because he's mouthing along to the National Anthem. 1.00
00:06:34.000 Huffington Post made a big deal out of this. 1.00
00:06:36.000 They suggested that he didn't know the words and that he's a fool, of course. 0.99
00:06:40.000 Here is video of Trump singing the National Anthem. 0.99
00:07:09.000 Okay, so this idea that Trump doesn't know the words is just silly.
00:07:12.000 Obviously, he's singing the correct words.
00:07:14.000 The reason we showed a fair bit of that clip is because one of the things that's been happening is people are taking this out of context and they are suggesting that he is hearing the same music you are hearing.
00:07:24.000 That's not the way that it works in arenas like this.
00:07:27.000 He's hearing the echo of the music, right?
00:07:28.000 He's actually hearing the music on the field, and you, the audience, are hearing the echo that is played through the loudspeakers.
00:07:33.000 There's a little bit of a delay.
00:07:34.000 I know this because I've spoken in enough big venues that very often when you say something, what the audience hears is actually being heard a second later.
00:07:42.000 And that's what's happening here with Trump.
00:07:44.000 Doesn't matter.
00:07:45.000 The media is jumping on Trump, suggesting he didn't know the words to the anthem. 0.99
00:07:47.000 That's absolutely asinine. 0.94
00:07:48.000 Of course Trump knows the words to the national anthem. 1.00
00:07:51.000 What I'm amazed by constantly is the media's attempt to go out of their way to paint Trump as stupid or crazy. 1.00
00:07:58.000 If you want to paint Trump as stupid or crazy, all you have to do is look at his Twitter feed and then quote it a lot. 1.00
00:08:03.000 You don't actually have to go to, he doesn't know the words of the National Anthem, or he's suffering from early stage Alzheimer's. 1.00
00:08:08.000 This is what they're now arguing.
00:08:09.000 We're going to talk in a second about President Trump and the 25th Amendment.
00:08:12.000 But this attempt by the media to paint Trump as fully crazy, all it does is it makes people in that stadium, the people from Alabama and Georgia, think the media are out to get Trump.
00:08:21.000 The reason being the media are out to get Trump.
00:08:23.000 And do you think that it's good for Trump or bad for Trump when Alabama's star running back, Bo Scarborough, no relation to Joe Scarborough, is walking out to the field and very much like Joe Scarborough starts screaming F Trump at the top of his lungs as he walks out onto the field.
00:08:46.000 Right, so you can hear it sort of there.
00:08:48.000 He shouts, F Trump, in the middle of walking out on the field while ESPN cameras are rolling.
00:08:53.000 One thing that I think Trump did quite brilliantly last night, apparently, according to Clay Travis, Trump was asked to interview with ESPN on the sidelines, and he turned them down.
00:09:01.000 He told ESPN to stuff it.
00:09:02.000 Instead, he did a local interview with some local Georgia channel.
00:09:06.000 There's some local Georgia radio channel, and he did the interview with them instead of doing the ESPN interview.
00:09:11.000 This is where Trump's populism works, right?
00:09:13.000 Where Trump's populism works is the feeling that he cares about blue-collar people, that he cares about people who have been traditionally ignored or degraded by the press.
00:09:24.000 Trump does have a connection to these folks.
00:09:26.000 He does.
00:09:26.000 He has a feel of somebody who cares about people, like the people in that stadium, and that's going to benefit him in the 2020 election.
00:09:33.000 It's one of the reasons why Democrats would be fools to run anybody who has a white-collar feel as opposed to a blue-collar feel.
00:09:38.000 Joe Biden would be a much better pick than, for example, Kirsten Gillibrand.
00:09:41.000 Trump still has a solid connection with a lot of people who live in the Rust Belt as well as in the South.
00:09:46.000 Well, in one second, I want to discuss with you 0.97
00:09:49.000 The real media push here, which is that Team Trump is hiding the fact that Trump is legitimately crazy.
00:09:54.000 We're going to show you the extent of the media bias because it truly is astonishing and demonstrative of just why Trump's base is not going to desert him in 2020.
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00:11:27.000 The media malpractice about Trump continues to push forward.
00:11:31.000 And as I say, you see it in things that are minor, like the national championship game.
00:11:35.000 And then you see it in their coverage of the Michael Wolff book.
00:11:37.000 So Michael Wolff's book is still making a lot of headlines.
00:11:39.000 The media simply will not let it go.
00:11:42.000 They were in love with Oprah yesterday, but they're back to Michael Wolff's book today.
00:11:45.000 Michael Wolff, of course, is this pseudo-journalist who basically tells anecdotal stories without fact-checking them in any way, shape, or form.
00:11:52.000 And he has this book, Fire and Fury, which is no better than an Ed Klein book.
00:11:56.000 You know, Ed Klein has written all of these books about Hillary and about Barack Obama.
00:12:00.000 Mostly about Hillary has been his sort of focal point.
00:12:02.000 And a lot of people on the right will quote Ed Klein or attempt to give credence to rumors that Ed Klein is passing around.
00:12:07.000 And people on the left say, well, he's not a real journalist because he's not double sourcing.
00:12:10.000 And then they'll go and they'll pass around Michael Wolff's book.
00:12:12.000 They'll pretend that Michael Wolff's book is well substantiated, that it's detailed, that it really contains the truth.
00:12:17.000 And you can see from how the media is treating this just how much they're lying about it.
00:12:21.000 So I want to start here by showing you Katie Turr's interview with Michael Wolff.
00:12:25.000 So Katie Turr, of course, over at NBC News. 0.83
00:12:27.000 And Katie Turr, she demonstrates full-fledged, and so does Wolff, that the media are engaged in complete and total confirmation bias.
00:12:36.000 Confirmation bias is the phenomenon where you buy information that already confirms the feelings that you already had.
00:12:43.000 So you didn't like Trump, and so you're going to buy the story that Trump actually watches The Gorilla Channel.
00:12:46.000 This is a thing that happened last week.
00:12:48.000 There was a guy on Twitter who calls himself Pixelated Boat.
00:12:51.000 He's a parody account.
00:12:53.000 And he tweeted out a fake portion of Michael Wolff's book in which he suggested that the White House staff had been told by President Trump that he wanted to watch gorillas all day.
00:13:01.000 And so the White House staff went and produced a gorilla channel, which they then had locally streamed into his TV alone.
00:13:07.000 And then Trump suggested that he didn't want to watch the gorillas eating and mating.
00:13:11.000 He only wanted to watch them fighting.
00:13:12.000 So they cut out all the non-fighting parts.
00:13:14.000 It was just 24 hours a day.
00:13:15.000 We're good to go.
00:13:35.000 It had something like 15,000 retweets.
00:13:36.000 A bunch of people on the left thought that the Gorilla Channel was a real thing, which, I mean, let's be real.
00:13:41.000 There is only one Gorilla Channel.
00:13:42.000 It's in heaven and Harambe runs it.
00:13:44.000 But the idea that this could pass around, it could only pass around really because there were so many people who wanted it to be true.
00:13:51.000 They wanted to believe that there was a guerrilla channel that President Trump had mandated and that he sat scratching his head and beating his chest and whooping to the sounds of the guerrillas fighting.
00:14:00.000 Well, this is what the entire media are now engaged in, this vast-scale confirmation bias.
00:14:05.000 So watch this interview with Katie Turr on NBC, because this is just an exercise in confirmation bias and how the media are exacerbating it.
00:14:13.000 Because that's not what—I'm not in your business.
00:14:17.000 My evidence is the book.
00:14:20.000 Read the book.
00:14:21.000 If it makes sense to you, if it strikes a chord, if it rings true, it is true.
00:14:27.000 Congratulations on the book, and congratulations on the president hating it.
00:14:32.000 Thank you.
00:14:32.000 Appreciate your time, sir.
00:14:34.000 Okay, so a couple of things there that are just insane.
00:14:36.000 First of all, when he says, if it rings true, it is true, that is the definition of bad journalism.
00:14:42.000 The definition of bad journalism is, if it rings true, it is true.
00:14:45.000 When President Trump, when he was then not even candidate Trump, was talking about how Barack Obama was born in Kenya, and a lot of people said, you know what, that rings true, because Barack Obama, kind of a weird guy, doesn't seem to hold a lot of American principles. 0.87
00:14:56.000 If Trump had just said, if it rings true, if it rings true, it is true.
00:15:00.000 You know what the media would have said?
00:15:01.000 They would have said alternative facts.
00:15:03.000 They would have said fake news.
00:15:04.000 They would have said that he's lying, that he's dissembling.
00:15:06.000 But Michael Wolff goes out there and says if it rings true, it is true.
00:15:08.000 That is not a journalistic standard.
00:15:10.000 You've got to be kidding me.
00:15:12.000 If it rings true, it is true?
00:15:14.000 Okay. 1.00
00:15:15.000 Michael Wolff is a joke and a pedophile. 0.99
00:15:17.000 Does it ring true? 0.99
00:15:18.000 I have no evidence that any of that is real.
00:15:20.000 I may have some evidence that he's not a really good journalist, but I have no evidence he's a pedophile.
00:15:23.000 But does it ring true? 0.80
00:15:25.000 What if I just suggested that Michael Wolff likes to kill puppies in his backyard? 0.89
00:15:28.000 I mean, look at the guy. 0.97
00:15:29.000 Just look at his face.
00:15:31.000 Does that ring true?
00:15:32.000 It doesn't mean it is true.
00:15:34.000 What if I suggested that Michael Wolff is actually Michael Myers, Mike Myers, playing Michael Wolff?
00:15:39.000 He just shaved his head, stuck on that pair of glasses, and now he's playing an extra from Austin Powers.
00:15:44.000 Does it ring true?
00:15:45.000 Is it true? 1.00
00:15:47.000 What stupidity? 1.00
00:15:48.000 And then for Katie Turd to finish the interview by congratulating him on Trump hating the book. 1.00
00:15:52.000 If that doesn't demonstrate how the media are a bunch of trolls, I don't know what does.
00:15:56.000 I mean, that is just the essence of trollery. 0.97
00:15:58.000 Congratulations on the president hating you because he's such a bad guy.
00:16:01.000 If he hates you, that's really a compliment.
00:16:03.000 Like, if you're going to congratulate somebody on somebody hating you, then what you do is you congratulate
00:16:07.000 Me on Mahmoud Ahmadinejad hating me.
00:16:10.000 It's like someone evil.
00:16:11.000 You want to use that?
00:16:12.000 You say, like, Hitler hates you.
00:16:13.000 Congratulations.
00:16:15.000 You don't say Donald Trump hates you.
00:16:16.000 Congratulations on your book. 1.00
00:16:17.000 Maybe he hates you because your book's full of crap. 1.00
00:16:19.000 Maybe that's a possibility. 1.00
00:16:20.000 And it turns out that the book largely is full of crap. 0.99
00:16:23.000 And I'm not the only one saying so. 1.00
00:16:25.000 But again, this media bias is insane.
00:16:27.000 Brian Stelter, who's supposed to be the sort of CNN ombudsman, Brian Stelter tweeted this out the other day.
00:16:32.000 He tweeted out, I stand corrected.
00:16:35.000 I thought the RNC ad misquoted me, but the quote came from a CNN International TV hit because the GOP had tweeted out,
00:16:43.000 An ad in which it quoted Brian Stelter saying there were holes in the book.
00:16:49.000 Stelter says, I've deleted my previous tweet about this.
00:16:51.000 Big picture point.
00:16:51.000 Wolf's errors are sloppy, but many Trump experts say the book rings true overall.
00:16:55.000 My advice, read it skeptically.
00:16:58.000 Rings true overall?
00:17:00.000 Brian Stelter is the supposed upholder of truth.
00:17:03.000 What is this rings true nonsense? 0.82
00:17:06.000 By the way, you don't have to go to Michael Wolff's book to find stories that have been confirmed by more than two sources about President Trump acting crazy sometimes. 0.97
00:17:14.000 You can use your eyes, your eyeballs that are in your head. 0.91
00:17:18.000 You don't require Michael Wolff's ridiculous anecdotes, courtesy of Steve Bannon. 0.62
00:17:22.000 I mean, the whole book is basically as told to Steve Bannon, as told by Steve Bannon. 0.97
00:17:26.000 It's really silly.
00:17:27.000 So Brian Stelter gets hammered by Jake Tapper. 0.78
00:17:29.000 This is one of the reasons why I respect Tapper as a journalist a lot of the time.
00:17:33.000 So here is Tapper yesterday, suggesting that this book is basically just nonsense.
00:17:38.000 Wolf's reporting should be met with skepticism.
00:17:40.000 The book is riddled with errors and rumors.
00:17:43.000 And in his marketing of the book, Wolf made the unbelievable assertion that 100% of the president's family members and top advisors have concerns about his mental fitness for the job.
00:17:53.000 100%.
00:17:53.000 That's simply not true.
00:17:56.000 And there's this.
00:17:56.000 Three errors in just this one paragraph on page 78, a misspelling of Democratic strategist Hillary Rosen's name.
00:18:02.000 Wilbur Ross is identified as the Labor Secretary when he's actually the Commerce Secretary, and Wolf has reporter Mark Berman at a restaurant which Berman says he's never been to.
00:18:11.000 OK, so good for Tapper for going through this.
00:18:14.000 Ringing true is not true.
00:18:15.000 This is why I have more respect for Tapper than I do for some of the other CNN journalists. 0.90
00:18:18.000 Speaking of bias at CNN, CNN announced today that Jim Acosta, the grandstanding, ridiculous White House correspondent who spends all of his time asking asinine questions of the president's 0.94
00:18:29.000 I don't 0.98
00:18:46.000 I don't know.
00:19:02.000 Yeah, sure.
00:19:03.000 And again, you can tell the media bias from exactly how Michael Wolff is pitching this, right?
00:19:08.000 Michael Wolff is pitching this as the book that's going to end Trump's presidency.
00:19:10.000 And the left is buying into that because they want to see Trump's presidency end.
00:19:13.000 They are interested in seeing Wolff's book take down Trump.
00:19:16.000 They're suggesting this is like a bomb went off in the White House.
00:19:18.000 It's like a bomb went off in the White House.
00:19:19.000 The book doesn't say anything new except Steve Bannon mentally masturbating about how he doesn't like Jared and Ivanka and how Trump doesn't fulfill his purposes as a grand nationalist populist.
00:19:29.000 Here's Michael Wolff, though, fulfilling all leftist fantasies that this book is going to somehow result in a 29th amendment.
00:19:34.000 There are not 29 amendments to the Constitution.
00:19:36.000 A 29th amendment removal of the president due to literary wounds.
00:19:41.000 Here's Michael Wolff going after Trump.
00:19:43.000 You know, I think one of the interesting effects of the book so far is a very clear emperor has no clothes effect.
00:19:55.000 That the story that I've told seems to present this presidency in such a way that it says he can't do this job.
00:20:04.000 The emperor has no clothes.
00:20:06.000 And suddenly, everywhere, people are going, oh my God, it's true.
00:20:11.000 He has no clothes.
00:20:13.000 OK, and you can see Wolf is really excited about this.
00:20:15.000 And that's the point.
00:20:15.000 Wolf is really excited about this.
00:20:17.000 And so is the left.
00:20:18.000 They've been talking about the 25th Amendment.
00:20:20.000 So in a minute, I'm going to explain to you what the 25th Amendment says and why people who are talking about removing Trump through the 25th Amendment process are totally crazy.
00:20:27.000 OK?
00:20:27.000 It's never going to happen.
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00:22:18.000 So...
00:22:19.000 Everybody has been talking about Michael Wolff and the 25th Amendment. 0.97
00:22:22.000 So, Trump's crazy. 1.00
00:22:24.000 He's so crazy. 1.00
00:22:26.000 He's a nut. 1.00
00:22:27.000 He's incapable of fulfilling his office, his oath of office. 0.97
00:22:31.000 Therefore, we have to call in the 25th Amendment.
00:22:34.000 Yeah, OK, so let's go through briefly what's exactly in the 25th Amendment.
00:22:38.000 So you understand how insane this is, the suggestion that the 25th Amendment is going to be used to oust President Trump.
00:22:43.000 It would indeed be a coup.
00:22:44.000 You know, people have been overusing the term coup.
00:22:46.000 When they say that there are leaks inside the White House, that that's a coup.
00:22:49.000 Or when they suggest that there's a bad news story, that's a coup.
00:22:52.000 No, a coup is when somebody is illegitimately removed from office through nefarious means. 0.99
00:22:58.000 To declare the President of the United States crazy without an actual diagnosis that he has severe Alzheimer's or something is ridiculous.
00:23:05.000 The 25th Amendment was put in place after the assassination of JFK because people were worried, what do you do if the President's in a coma or something?
00:23:12.000 And also, with regard to Woodrow Wilson, because Woodrow Wilson was basically in a coma for the last nine months of his administration, and his wife was essentially president.
00:23:19.000 So, I guess you could have President Melania, but people didn't want to do that, so they changed the Constitution. 0.99
00:23:24.000 So instead, they went to the 25th Amendment.
00:23:26.000 Here is what the 25th Amendment says.
00:23:28.000 It says,
00:23:39.000 And the speaker of the House of Representatives, their written declaration that the president is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the vice president shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as acting president.
00:23:49.000 So basically, the VP and the cabinet have to go to the speaker of the House and the Senate president pro tempore, and they have to tell him, they have to tell those guys, fellas, president's out of it, I'm taking over.
00:24:00.000 So Pence would have to go with the rest of the cabinet.
00:24:02.000 Do you think that's going to happen?
00:24:04.000 Of course that's not going to happen.
00:24:05.000 But let's assume that it did, right?
00:24:07.000 Let's assume that Mike Pence suddenly got it in his head that he was going to take Trump out through the 25th Amendment.
00:24:12.000 So what happens then?
00:24:12.000 That's not the end of the story, okay?
00:24:14.000 Here's the rest of the story.
00:24:25.000 Unless the VP and a majority of either of the principal officers of the Executive Department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide transmit within four days to the President Pro Tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office.
00:24:41.000 So Trump writes a letter back and he says I'm not crazy I'm taking back the office.
00:24:44.000 He gets back the office unless the VP and a majority of the executive department, so the VP and the cabinet, or the VP and some other body set up by Congress, go back to the president pro tempore and the Speaker of the House and says, no, the president really is crazy, don't give him back the power.
00:25:00.000 So what happens then?
00:25:01.000 Now you have a battle between the VP and the president.
00:25:03.000 So, thereupon, Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within 48 hours for that purpose, if not in session.
00:25:08.000 If the Congress, within 21 days after the sheet of the latter written declaration, or if Congress is not in session within 21 days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both houses that the president is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the VP shall continue to discharge the same as the acting president.
00:25:25.000 Otherwise, the president shall resume his duties.
00:25:29.000 Okay, so what are they saying here?
00:25:30.000 They're saying that you would have to have two-thirds of both the House and the Senate.
00:25:35.000 Okay, two-thirds of both the House and the Senate.
00:25:38.000 Okay, that is actually stricter than the impeachment process.
00:25:41.000 Okay, the impeachment process, under the Constitution of the United States, the House of Representatives passes by simple majority the articles of impeachment.
00:25:52.000 That's what happened to Bill Clinton.
00:25:53.000 Bill Clinton was impeached by the House.
00:25:55.000 But then he has to be convicted by, I believe it's two-thirds of the Senate in the United States.
00:26:01.000 So this idea that the 25th Amendment is somehow an end around the impeachment process is just crazy.
00:26:09.000 That's not what happens.
00:26:11.000 The process is, and I'm just checking my work here, that yes, that's right, two-thirds of the members present have to vote for conviction in the Senate.
00:26:19.000 So, under the 25th Amendment, two-thirds of both houses have to vote to get rid of Trump.
00:26:23.000 Under the impeachment process, only two-thirds of one house and a majority of the other have to vote to get rid of Trump.
00:26:28.000 So, everyone who's talking about the 25th Amendment is totally crazy.
00:26:30.000 It's not going to happen.
00:26:31.000 The only way that it would ever happen is if Trump were legitimately in a coma, had a heart attack or something, God forbid, and then he were in a long-term situation where he could not actually discharge his duties.
00:26:42.000 That's legitimately the only way this happens.
00:26:44.000 So for all those people who are fantasizing about the 25th Amendment, try reading the Constitution for a change. 1.00
00:26:48.000 It may throw some cold water on your stupid, because it's really absurd. 1.00
00:26:52.000 It's really absurd. 1.00
00:26:53.000 Okay, so meanwhile, speaking of really absurd, President Trump has been successful in passing a lot of Republican priorities in his first year.
00:27:02.000 But looking forward to 2018, the polls look pretty terrible for Republicans in 2018.
00:27:08.000 If you look at the generic congressional ballot, the last time that I checked the generic congressional ballot, we'll check RealClearPolitics right now, the average on the generic congressional vote on RealClearPolitics is D plus 11.
00:27:21.000 Which is just brutal.
00:27:22.000 Now, the gap has been closing a little bit.
00:27:24.000 So, both The Economist, YouGov, and Reuters-Ipsos have it Democrats plus 6, Democrats plus 7.
00:27:30.000 That's still a major gap, though.
00:27:32.000 Before that, it was Democrats plus 15, according to Quinnipiac, and Democrats plus 18, according to CNN.
00:27:37.000 So, in any case, it looks like Republicans have some trouble.
00:27:40.000 One of the ways you can tell that Republicans have some trouble is a lot of the members
00:27:44.000 We're good to go.
00:28:09.000 So he's the first of his California colleagues to announce his retirement.
00:28:14.000 The party was surprised by this, apparently, according to the LA Times.
00:28:16.000 They were surprised.
00:28:17.000 He's a 13-term congressperson.
00:28:18.000 He published his announcement on Twitter.
00:28:20.000 He said he wanted to concentrate on his final year as committee chairman.
00:28:24.000 So that is not good news for Republicans.
00:28:26.000 And again, if you look at those polls, there have been a bunch of Republican retirements.
00:28:31.000 The list of Republican retirements in the House for this term is really substantial.
00:28:37.000 Here's a list of the Republicans who are currently talking about retiring after 2018.
00:28:42.000 This is just the list right now.
00:28:44.000 It's probably going to get longer.
00:28:46.000 Includes, let's see, Representative Sam Johnson, Republican of Texas.
00:28:50.000 He joined in 1991.
00:28:51.000 Ileana Ross-Lennon of Florida.
00:28:54.000 John Duncan of Tennessee.
00:28:56.000 The list is Diane Black.
00:29:00.000 of Tennessee, who says she's going to run for governor in Tennessee.
00:29:03.000 Jeff Flake, obviously, in the Senate.
00:29:04.000 Bob Corker in the Senate.
00:29:06.000 Charlie Dent from Pennsylvania announced that he is not going to be running anymore.
00:29:09.000 Jeb Hensarling, the Republican from Texas, is not going to be running.
00:29:12.000 Dave Reichert from Washington is not going to be running.
00:29:14.000 Dave Trott from Michigan is not going to be running.
00:29:15.000 Ted Poe from Texas is not going to be running.
00:29:17.000 Frank Labiando from New Jersey is not going to be running.
00:29:20.000 Jason Chaffetz from Utah is not going to be—he resigned already.
00:29:23.000 Tim Murphy from Pennsylvania.
00:29:24.000 Pat Tiberi from Ohio.
00:29:26.000 So, yee-yee-yee-yee-yee.
00:29:28.000 Okay, that's a long list.
00:29:29.000 You're talking right there about 13 House Republicans who have resigned or will resign, and you're talking about two sitting Republican senators who are already stepping down.
00:29:39.000 Who are already stepping down, right?
00:29:40.000 And then if you look at the House Republicans running for another office, so they leave their seat vacant, which puts them up for grabs, it's another five.
00:29:46.000 So you're already talking about 18 House Republicans who are leaving their seats, either just leaving them absolutely, or leaving them to run for another office.
00:29:54.000 That does not spell anything good for Republicans.
00:29:56.000 That is not a good opening gambit for Republicans in 2018.
00:30:00.000 If they lose 23 seats, they lose the House of Representatives outright.
00:30:03.000 That may look like a soft, it may look a little bit like
00:30:09.000 Okay, so we're going to continue in just a second with a big announcement from the Arizona Senate race.
00:30:20.000 I just suggested that Jeff Flake in Arizona is not running for re-election.
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00:32:01.000 So, in other news, it appears that the seat in Arizona that is now being vacated by Jeff Flake has a few contenders.
00:32:07.000 Kelly Ward, obviously, is running. 0.86
00:32:10.000 She is a somewhat kooky person, I would say.
00:32:14.000 She has suggested that chemtrails are poisoning the air.
00:32:19.000 OK, and so she's running.
00:32:20.000 And then you have Joe Arpaio.
00:32:22.000 So Joe Arpaio announced today that he is going to run for Senate, which is just spectacular.
00:32:26.000 He, of course, was recently pardoned by President Trump.
00:32:29.000 He had been sentenced for corruption because he was basically using his office apparently to target Hispanics.
00:32:35.000 This was at least the allegation.
00:32:36.000 There are a lot of people who suggested that that was politically motivated.
00:32:39.000 But Arpaio's office in the past had targeted
00:32:41.000 Publications in Arizona that reported on his corruption inside the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office.
00:32:46.000 He gained popularity among some immigration hardliners and anti-criminal hardliners.
00:32:51.000 I remember the first time I heard of Sheriff Joe was when there were all those stories about how he was making his inmates wear pink uniforms.
00:32:58.000 But he was convicted
00:33:00.000 I don't know.
00:33:20.000 Remember, all of the child molestation allegations about Moore dropped during the general, not during the primaries.
00:33:24.000 There's a lot of stuff on Moore that made him unfit for office.
00:33:27.000 But Arpaio has a lot of those same issues.
00:33:29.000 Arpaio says, I'm going to have to work hard.
00:33:31.000 You don't take anything for granted.
00:33:32.000 But I would not be doing this if I thought I could not win.
00:33:34.000 I'm not here to get my name in the paper.
00:33:35.000 I get that every day anyway.
00:33:36.000 I mean, to be fair, he is here to get his name a little bit in the paper.
00:33:39.000 So Senator Kelly Ward, state Senator Kelly Ward, 0.94
00:33:41.000 She is running.
00:33:42.000 Arpaio is running.
00:33:44.000 Representative Martha McSally is also expected to jump in soon.
00:33:47.000 She's a more mainstream Republican.
00:33:49.000 And if you're going to support someone in primary, McSally seems like the best available option.
00:33:53.000 Because remember, Arizona is not a red state.
00:33:56.000 Arizona is a purple state.
00:33:57.000 Hey, if you want to lose another Senate seat and put the Senate in jeopardy, if you want to ensure that if another justice steps down, Trump is not able to fill that seat with a good justice, then you can always make sure that that seat goes Democrat. 0.58
00:34:09.000 Remember, Republicans only have a 51-seat majority right now.
00:34:12.000 If they lose two more seats, they are toast in the Senate.
00:34:16.000 And then you have a fully Democratic Congress and President Trump, a dangerous prescription for conservatives.
00:34:21.000 Not just because Democrats in Congress are extreme, but also because President Trump wants to win, and by win, Trump means that he wants to get things done.
00:34:29.000 Not necessarily conservative things, but anything.
00:34:31.000 So we've been lucky so far that he has basically signed whatever comes across his desk.
00:34:34.000 He hasn't used his veto pen at all, so far as I'm aware.
00:34:38.000 It would be questionable as to whether he would actually use his veto pen if Democrats started passing legislation, or if he would do what Bill Clinton did in his second term and start working with Republicans.
00:34:47.000 Remember, after Bill Clinton lost his midterm election in 1994, he started working with Republicans on welfare reform and then won re-election.
00:34:53.000 You could see a similar move from the right to the left.
00:34:55.000 by President Trump if Democrats were to actually win control of Congress.
00:34:59.000 Right now, the woman who's running on the Democratic side is a woman named Kirsten Sinema, and she is the heavy favorite in the Democratic primary. 0.81
00:35:05.000 She's also relatively popular in state.
00:35:07.000 So, you know, Republicans have to be very careful in Arizona, which means that McSally is probably their best candidate there.
00:35:13.000 Now, with all that said,
00:35:15.000 One of the major issues that's going to occupy the Trump administration in the very near future is, of course, the issue of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program.
00:35:22.000 So, to recapitulate what has happened so far, if you recall, in 2016, President Obama announced that he would be essentially commuting the Dreamers.
00:35:33.000 I'm sorry, when was DACA?
00:35:34.000 DACA was not 2016.
00:35:35.000 DACA took place in 2012.
00:35:37.000 Sorry, it was during the election cycle, of course.
00:35:41.000 Obama did it to pander to Hispanic voters.
00:35:43.000 So Obama signed an executive amnesty that essentially allowed everyone who arrived between 1981 and 2010 to stay in the country if they came in as children.
00:35:53.000 And so they would get to stay forever was the basic idea here.
00:35:56.000 So that was illegal.
00:35:58.000 Obama didn't have the authority to do that.
00:36:00.000 He was essentially giving people legal status without Congress approving of it.
00:36:03.000 So Trump comes into office and he says DACA has now been revoked.
00:36:07.000 But he also says, I want to make sure that the Dreamers get to stay, so Congress should do something about this. 1.00
00:36:12.000 They should cut some sort of a deal.
00:36:14.000 We'll make a grand, beautiful deal.
00:36:16.000 And if we don't make a deal, then maybe I'll just reinstate DACA in March. 0.97
00:36:19.000 That was a very, very foolish negotiating stance.
00:36:22.000 I mean, if you are going to negotiate a salary with somebody, what you don't do is say, listen, boss, I need a $1,000 raise. 0.95
00:36:28.000 And you know what's going to happen if you don't give me that $1,000 raise?
00:36:31.000 I'm going to go right back to work.
00:36:33.000 Like, just like it was before.
00:36:35.000 That's what I'm gonna do.
00:36:36.000 So, boom.
00:36:37.000 Mic drop.
00:36:38.000 Right?
00:36:38.000 That's not exactly how you negotiate.
00:36:40.000 For a great negotiator, Trump really has botched the negotiation on DACA.
00:36:44.000 So, he started off by essentially admitting that he was not going to let DACA die.
00:36:50.000 DACA was going to survive no matter what.
00:36:52.000 And Democrats are playing that for all they're worth. 0.98
00:36:53.000 Because right now, Republicans are saying to Democrats, let's make a deal, right?
00:36:57.000 If you want DACA reinstated, we do too.
00:36:59.000 We also want funding for the border wall.
00:37:00.000 We want to end chain migration.
00:37:02.000 That's a deal that I would make, by the way, if there were a deal for border wall and ending chain migration in exchange for re-enshrining DACA.
00:37:11.000 Would I be happy with that deal?
00:37:13.000 I would not.
00:37:13.000 I would not be thrilled with that deal.
00:37:14.000 But that is definitely a deal that you would make because the reality is that the vast majority of these dreamers are going to end up staying no matter what.
00:37:20.000 And according to Trump, all of them are going to end up staying no matter what.
00:37:23.000 So you may as well get the wall and get chain migration ended.
00:37:25.000 Chain migration is much more of a danger to America's immigration program than keeping people who have already been here for 15, 20 years. 0.99
00:37:33.000 I mean, they've already been here for 15 or 20 years and the country is operating just fine.
00:37:37.000 In any case, the Democrats are refusing to allow that sort of deal because they know that they've got Trump over a barrel a little bit here.
00:37:43.000 Julian Castro, the Democratic representative from Texas, he comes out and he says the Democrats will vote down a border fix if it contains wall funding.
00:37:50.000 I think that Democrats should withhold votes from a bill to help DREAMers if it includes funding for the wall. 0.99
00:37:58.000 I will certainly vote against it, and I know most Democrats will vote against it.
00:38:02.000 I can only speak for the House of Representatives, of course.
00:38:05.000 In the Senate, they have different rules and it's a different matter.
00:38:08.000 But I would suspect that you will have the overwhelming majority of Democrats vote against it, yes.
00:38:14.000 OK, so if Democrats vote that down, that means it's going to be hard for Republicans to pass it, because there are a lot of Republicans who don't actually want to pass anything that enshrines DACA in law.
00:38:24.000 So it would be hard to pass it in the House.
00:38:25.000 It would be particularly hard to pass in the Senate.
00:38:27.000 You lose one or two votes, and you're basically done.
00:38:29.000 You could certainly see some of the hardliners in the Senate taking this stance, that they're not going to vote for any of these deals.
00:38:35.000 Now, should they vote for?
00:38:37.000 The answer is yes, of course they should.
00:38:39.000 If Republicans have a majority, they should just vote this thing through with no Democratic support, and then they'll be seen as fixing DACA and fixing the illegal immigration system.
00:38:46.000 It'll be interesting to see what a vote count looks like, what a whip count looks like.
00:38:49.000 Pat Buchanan, however, who is the most anti-immigration, legal and illegal, advocate in maybe the United States, he suggested on the McLaughlin group, which I didn't even know still existed,
00:39:00.000 Pat, will and should President Trump agree to a DACA deal with Democrats?
00:39:02.000 Well, my view is no.
00:39:03.000 But I do think this.
00:39:19.000 Trump will agree to the deal.
00:39:21.000 I don't think he'll get the wall.
00:39:22.000 I think he'll get a security fence on the border and other things, protections like that.
00:39:27.000 And I think the pressure from the public elsewhere on the DACA thing, because it is publicly popular, I think ultimately Trump will concede on that and he will be charged with amnesty.
00:39:38.000 OK, so, you know, I think that Pat Buchanan is likely right.
00:39:42.000 He has his ear to the ground on these immigration issues.
00:39:44.000 One of the things that's worth noting is that Trump's break with Jeff Sessions, his attorney general, is not just about DOJ.
00:39:50.000 That break actually has implications for immigration, because the reality is that the
00:39:55.000 Immigration plans that Trump espoused during his run were very much connected to Jeff Sessions' immigration plans.
00:40:01.000 Jeff Sessions' immigration plans were very strict.
00:40:04.000 Those were the ones that were mirrored.
00:40:06.000 Stephen Miller was Jeff Sessions' chief of staff.
00:40:08.000 So, that's where all of this information was coming from.
00:40:10.000 The fact that Trump and Sessions are at odds is not good for those of us on the right who would like to see illegal immigration curbed, even if we would like to see some sort of process
00:40:19.000 Okay, time for some things I like and some things I hate, and then we'll deconstruct the culture briefly because I have some more notes about the Golden Globes.
00:40:31.000 So, we begin with some things I like.
00:40:32.000 So, I'm about to do something I've never done before.
00:40:34.000 I'm going to recommend a movie with Chris Evans in it.
00:40:37.000 Yes, that's right.
00:40:38.000 There's a movie out called Gifted.
00:40:40.000 I watched it on a plane.
00:40:42.000 The movie is not amazing.
00:40:44.000 It is okay.
00:40:45.000 I think it's gotten more plaudits than it deserves.
00:40:48.000 The basic notion of the movie is that Chris Evans is essentially the uncle of a little girl who is a genius genius in math.
00:40:57.000 Her mom was also a genius in math, but the mom committed suicide after solving a famous equation.
00:41:04.000 And the mom's mother, so this little girl's grandmother, was the one who had been sort of steamrolling the daughter who committed suicide into being in math.
00:41:12.000 And so the uncle essentially took the kid away and doesn't want her to shine.
00:41:17.000 And so that's sort of the conflict of the film, that he wants her to live a regular life, but he also has taken her away from a lot of the resources that would be necessary for her to be the most educated that she can be in terms of math.
00:41:27.000 That's the central conflict of the film.
00:41:28.000 Here's a little bit of the trailer.
00:41:31.000 Please don't make me go.
00:41:32.000 You can keep homeschooling me.
00:41:34.000 I'll tell you everything I know.
00:41:36.000 No more argument, okay?
00:41:37.000 We've discussed this ad nauseam.
00:41:39.000 What's ad nauseam?
00:41:40.000 You don't know?
00:41:40.000 Well, it looks like someone needs school.
00:41:42.000 Good morning, Miss Stevenson!
00:41:48.000 Who can tell me what 3 plus 3 is?
00:41:51.000 Everyone knows it's 6.
00:41:53.000 Mary, can you stand up, please?
00:41:54.000 Can you tell me what 57 multiplied by 135 is?
00:42:01.000 Okay.
00:42:01.000 7,695.
00:42:01.000 The square root is 87.7.
00:42:02.000 And change.
00:42:03.000 Now what does ad nauseum mean?
00:42:12.000 The film is well done.
00:42:13.000 It is a well done film.
00:42:15.000 I will say that the part of Chris Evans that he plays in this film is not... Like, he's good in the film.
00:42:21.000 He actually is.
00:42:21.000 I didn't know Chris Evans could act.
00:42:23.000 That was a surprise to me.
00:42:23.000 I've never liked him as Captain America.
00:42:26.000 I thought he was awful in Fantastic Four.
00:42:28.000 And that was the extent of my Chris Evans knowledge.
00:42:31.000 I didn't think that...
00:42:33.000 We're good to go.
00:42:52.000 Other things that I like.
00:42:53.000 So I have to show you this.
00:42:54.000 This was going around the internet.
00:42:55.000 I'd never seen it.
00:42:55.000 Apparently it's like nine years old, but it's just one of my favorite things.
00:42:59.000 It is a local ad for a furniture store in North Carolina called Red House.
00:43:04.000 And it is spectacular.
00:43:06.000 It is just so good.
00:43:07.000 Here is the commercial.
00:43:08.000 Can't we all just get along at the Red House Furniture?
00:43:13.000 We can!
00:43:14.000 At the Red House!
00:43:21.000 I'm Richard, a.k.a.
00:43:22.000 Big Head.
00:43:23.000 I work at the Red House, and I'm black.
00:43:25.000 I like pumping iron and pumping furniture into people's homes.
00:43:33.000 And it's a picture of you shaking hands with a white woman.
00:43:35.000 I'm Johnny, a.k.a.
00:43:35.000 Tin Gage.
00:43:36.000 I work at the Red House, and I'm white.
00:43:38.000 I like deer hunting, bass fishing, and extending credit to all people.
00:43:46.000 I'm black, and I love the Red House.
00:43:48.000 I'm white, and I love the Red House.
00:43:51.000 I'm a black woman, and I love the Red House.
00:43:54.000 I am white, and the Red House is for me.
00:44:04.000 That's pretty spectacular stuff.
00:44:06.000 You can watch the whole commercial, but it's just...
00:44:10.000 It is magic.
00:44:12.000 Only in America.
00:44:13.000 That's a real American commercial.
00:44:14.000 And this is the thing, right?
00:44:15.000 The fact is, when it comes to race relations, most of us feel like the red house, right? 0.58
00:44:19.000 We're all, who cares?
00:44:20.000 Like, who cares?
00:44:21.000 That's the thing about the commercial that's really funny, is that you look at this, you're like, this is how you act around black friends if you're a white person, or how you act around white friends if you're a black person.
00:44:29.000 It's just not that big a deal.
00:44:30.000 And the fact that people make a huge deal out of it is an irritant, and that's why the commercial is so darn funny.
00:44:35.000 It's really, really funny.
00:44:36.000 Okay.
00:44:37.000 In other news, I do want to issue a hearty congratulations to Jack Antonoff.
00:44:41.000 Jack Antonoff, of course, is the fellow who was dating Lena Dunham for five years, and he finally broke up with her, which means that either he awoke from his coma and realized that he was in bed next to Lena Dunham, or it took him five years to chew through his own arm and escape the basement.
00:44:54.000 But congratulations to Jack Antonoff for escaping a lifetime of that horror show.
00:45:01.000 All I can think of when I think of Jack Antonoff is that shot of Tim Robbins at the end of Shawshank Redemption with his hands up in the air as the rain pours down on him after crawling through a mile of stinking sewage, three football fields.
00:45:16.000 Good day for Jack Antonoff.
00:45:17.000 Good day for Jack Antonoff.
00:45:18.000 Okay, time for one quick thing that I hate, and then I want to deconstruct culture for a second.
00:45:24.000 So here is the quick thing that I hate.
00:45:28.000 So, the quick thing that I hate today comes courtesy of some Australian show, I guess, where there's a guy named Genuine.
00:45:34.000 Are you aware who this Genuine fellow is? 0.80
00:45:36.000 So I guess Genuine is some sort of singer.
00:45:40.000 I guess that he is famous for... What song did he do?
00:45:47.000 Okay, thank you.
00:45:48.000 Say it louder, because I missed it.
00:45:51.000 Ride My Pony.
00:45:52.000 Okay, from Genuine.
00:45:54.000 He's an American singer, songwriter, and dancer.
00:45:56.000 Whenever I do a pop culture reference like this, I immediately have to check Wikipedia, because I have no idea who these people are.
00:46:01.000 But he apparently did a show in Australia where he was seated next to a transgender woman, meaning a man who says that he is a woman, and this ridiculousness ensued. 0.80
00:46:13.000 You know, guys have chatted me up not knowing my past, but then as soon as they find out, whoa.
00:46:18.000 I'm a woman, right?
00:46:20.000 Forget about any tease or anything in front of it.
00:46:22.000 I'm just a woman, OK?
00:46:24.000 So, on that score, you would date me, wouldn't you?
00:46:26.000 Not if you tell me you was trans. 1.00
00:46:28.000 No, no, I'm not telling you I'm trans.
00:46:30.000 I'm a woman.
00:46:31.000 A woman, yeah! 1.00
00:46:31.000 A woman, a woman, yeah. 1.00
00:46:32.000 Let's have a kiss.
00:46:32.000 LAUGHTER
00:46:37.000 Okay, so he was getting all sorts of flack for this because he wouldn't date a transgender woman and then she asked for, and then he asked for a kiss, right?
00:46:44.000 There's a guy.
00:46:44.000 The guy asked for a kiss and Ginuwine says no.
00:46:46.000 Oh, how dare he? 0.90
00:46:47.000 He's not, he's saying trans women aren't real women. 0.58
00:46:50.000 Because they're not? 0.99
00:46:52.000 Because that person may indeed have the junk downstairs?
00:46:57.000 This idea that you get to kiss whoever you want and foist your perspective. 0.77
00:47:02.000 First of all, can we start with this premise?
00:47:03.000 You don't have to kiss anyone you don't want to in life.
00:47:05.000 How about that?
00:47:06.000 Let's just start from there.
00:47:07.000 Even if this person were a real woman, this is not a particularly attractive woman from the normal standards of feminine beauty. 0.84
00:47:14.000 If genuine does not want to be into that, genuine does not have to be into that.
00:47:18.000 Beyond that, are we now suggesting that a man is only a real man if he kisses a man?
00:47:24.000 Like, that is a genetic man.
00:47:25.000 That is a biological man sitting next to him, suggesting that now Genuine is some sort of sexist for not kissing a man.
00:47:31.000 So that's weird.
00:47:33.000 We had one of these instances earlier today.
00:47:35.000 If this becomes the new line in the transgender rights movement, good luck with that one. 1.00
00:47:39.000 Try selling people on that one.
00:47:41.000 And you want to gain support? 0.99
00:47:42.000 It turns out the best way to gain support for the transgender community is not saying that we have to have sex with transgender people. 0.98
00:47:46.000 Like, that turns out, that is not a strong play. 0.98
00:47:49.000 Not a strong play.
00:47:50.000 Okay, quick deconstruction of the culture.
00:47:51.000 So, a couple of things worth noting about the Golden Globes that have not really been noted enough so far.
00:47:58.000 Okay, this comes courtesy of the New York Post for all of the talk about Me Too and Time's Up, and now we're standing up against sexual harassment and abuse in Hollywood.
00:48:06.000 Okay, here is the problem.
00:48:08.000 Rose McGowan and Asia Argento accused Harvey Weinstein of rape.
00:48:11.000 Neither were invited to the Golden Globes.
00:48:14.000 Argento tweeted,
00:48:21.000 Magellan said, And Rosanna Arquette, who accused Weinstein of sexual misconduct, tweeted to a follower,
00:48:37.000 Patricia Arquette replied, that's not cool.
00:48:39.000 All of you should have been included.
00:48:40.000 I wasn't asked either, but who cares?
00:48:41.000 It's great they're doing it, and we will too. 0.98
00:48:43.000 Well, no, actually, it's not great that they're a bunch of hypocrites who won't even invite the victims. 0.97
00:48:47.000 It just shows you that all of this is for show. 0.94
00:48:49.000 And speaking of for show, all these people virtue signaling after doing pretty much nothing on politics for their entire careers, but they have to show how wonderful they are.
00:48:57.000 So all of these women decided they were going to bring female activists to the Golden Globes as their partners. 1.00
00:49:02.000 So Rosa Clemente joined Susan Sarandon.
00:49:04.000 Who is Rosa Clemente? 1.00
00:49:10.000 Yeah, that's not virtue signaling to bring that lady to the Golden Globes, and then, like, the only way you hear about this is because there's a piece at Huffington Post. 0.99
00:49:23.000 I mean, you want to talk about tokenism?
00:49:25.000 This is the essence of tokenism.
00:49:27.000 And then you have Meryl Streep, who brought along Ai-jen Poo, who is an advocate for domestic workers and those involved in family care. 0.92
00:49:34.000 Yeah, I'm sure that that's high on Meryl Streep's priority list. 1.00
00:49:38.000 I mean, because this is the first I've heard of it.
00:49:40.000 My favorite, personally, was Sarah Jayaraman, who attended the Golden Globes as a guest of Amy Poehler.
00:49:47.000 She is best known for organizing low-wage restaurant workers and fighting for fair pay. 0.99
00:49:51.000 How about Amy Poehler sells her jewelry and gives it to the restaurant workers for fair pay? 1.00
00:49:58.000 Emma Stone, Burr Long, Billie Jean King, because lesbianism at Wimbledon is a major issue in today's America. 1.00
00:50:03.000 It's something that we definitely have to press for.
00:50:05.000 All of the virtue signaling is just a high level, it just generates a high level of irritation, as well it should. 0.98
00:50:11.000 It's really silly, and the idea that this is making any sort of difference other than alienating people is really dumb. 0.79
00:50:16.000 Okay, so, we will be back here tomorrow with all of the latest news. 0.96
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