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00:00:00.000As possible treatments begin to materialize for coronavirus, President Trump considers plans for reopening, Nancy Pelosi holds up aid for small businesses while posing in front of a very, very expensive refrigerator, and China admits it fudged the numbers.
00:00:42.000Okay, so there are no more Jewish holidays for another 49 days, right?
00:00:45.000Not until Shavuot, so we have at least a month and a half until we get to another set of Jewish holidays.
00:00:50.000So, nothing but Shapiro-y goodness from now until then.
00:00:54.000So, we bring you your latest coronavirus updates, obviously, because it is the only thing happening in the news.
00:01:00.000One of the more odd things about doing the show during this period in time is there's only one thing happening in the news.
00:01:06.000Literally no other things happening in the news.
00:01:08.000So let's jump into what is happening in the news.
00:01:10.000So yesterday was a really bad day in the United States for a number of deaths, apparently over 4,500 deaths recorded in the United States.
00:01:17.000Now, how many of those deaths were a result of the changed CDC Standards in terms of what counts as a COVID-19 death, I'm actually not sure.
00:01:24.000It doesn't really matter because the bottom line is that those deaths are attributable to COVID-19.
00:01:29.000According to the Washington Post, COVID-19 deaths have snowballed from a few isolated cases to thousands across the country each day.
00:01:35.000Surgeon General warned last week that it would be like Pearl Harbor.
00:01:38.000It turned out to be more than five times as many Americans died from COVID-19 last week than were killed at Pearl Harbor.
00:01:44.000If you look at a single week, What you see is that COVID-19 was just on the verge of overtaking heart disease as the number one killer across the country.
00:01:52.000Last week, COVID-19 killed more people from April 6th to April 12th than any other cause of death except heart disease does normally in a typical April week.
00:02:01.000Normally, cancer kills about 11,000 people per week and heart disease kills about 13,000 people per week.
00:02:06.000COVID killed about 12,400 people the week of April 6th to April 12th.
00:02:12.000One of the things that is scary about that, obviously, is that if you prorated that over the course of the year, you are talking hundreds of thousands of deaths.
00:02:17.000I mean, easily hundreds of thousands of deaths.
00:02:19.000Now, the good news is that that is likely to be the peak.
00:02:21.000What we are likely to see is a decline in the number of deaths being reported from around the country.
00:02:26.000The number of deaths trail the number of hospitalized cases.
00:02:28.000The number of hospitalized cases did peak a few days ago.
00:02:32.000Now, with that said, there's a lot of talk about when all of this is going to be reopened, how all of this looks.
00:02:37.000I think it's important when we talk about coronavirus deaths, because all you see is the raw numbers.
00:02:42.000And very often, people will show you a chart that is one of the more useless charts that I've seen, which is cumulative deaths.
00:02:47.000And when you look at cumulative deaths, it looks exponential, right?
00:02:52.000The problem with using cumulative deaths is it doesn't actually tell you whether the rate of death is increasing, whether the rate of hospitalization is increasing, and that's what we really care about because...
00:03:01.000If you are just adding the number of deaths today on top of the number of deaths yesterday, every time you add three or four deaths, the line continues to go up, whereas if you lost five people yesterday and one person today, on the cumulative chart, that looks like a continued increase.
00:03:16.000On a non-cumulative chart, like on a day-by-day level, it looks like a pretty significant decrease.
00:03:20.000Also important to recognize, as I've been talking about all week, it is deeply irresponsible of the media to tranche people, or fail to tranche people, In the ways that they do.
00:03:28.000What I mean by that is that if you are looking at the actual danger of coronavirus, you do have to look at the type of person who is acquiring coronavirus.
00:03:35.000To pretend that all people who acquire coronavirus are equally likely to be killed by coronavirus or to end up on a ventilator is simply not true.
00:03:42.000And it's really irresponsible, especially because when you're talking about reopening the country, you are going to have to trash people.
00:03:47.000You are going to have to determine who is most vulnerable and who is less vulnerable.
00:03:51.000And to pretend otherwise is really silly.
00:03:53.000And you hear this kind of stuff from members of the media, Fairly regularly.
00:03:57.000You hear it from members of government all the time.
00:03:58.000They'll say, sure, it's more dangerous for older people, but it could kill anybody.
00:04:02.000Well, cancer is mostly dangerous to old people.
00:04:04.000Yeah, it could kill anybody, but your chances of acquiring cancer at age 30 are very different from your chances of acquiring cancer at age 75 or age 80.
00:04:12.000And to pretend that the risk is equivalent and therefore that the behavior should be equivalent is irresponsible and it's blanket one-size-fits-all policy.
00:04:19.000And we'll get to more of that when we talk about the White House policy that's being put forward and what exactly is going to be A sort of well-realized and rational policy and what is not because I think that there continues to be a failure to understand the nature of the virus that is resulting in overbroad policies when it comes to lockdowns and shutdowns.
00:04:38.000We're going to get to more of this in just one second.
00:04:40.000We'll go through more of the statistics.
00:04:42.000First, let's talk about the fact that you're doing more online shopping now than ever because you have to.
00:04:46.000I mean, literally all the things are closed.
00:04:47.000You can get in your car today and drive around, everything will be closed.
00:04:50.000So you go back home, you get online, you're like, oh, why don't I just shop online?
00:04:53.000Except that everything's a little too expensive.
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00:08:37.000You're looking again at about 2.5% of all deaths in that age range are with COVID-19.
00:08:42.000So basically, if you are below, if you're between the ages of 45 and 74, you're looking at about a 2.5% chance if you died that you died of COVID-19.
00:08:52.000So in other words, as more deaths occur in the group, more people are dying from COVID-19 on an absolute level, but on a percentage basis, it's basically the same from the time you hit 45 to the time you hit 74.
00:09:53.000It's really, really important to mention that because Because if you do not mention that, then it doesn't, you can't formulate a solid policy.
00:10:02.000Treating people who are 70 and up, or 60 and up, or pre-existing conditions the same way that you're treating young healthy people when it comes to public policy is really, really foolish.
00:10:14.000So Vox has a piece on this, and here's how they conclude, and I think this is sort of irresponsible.
00:10:19.000They say, there's no need to belabor the point.
00:10:21.000One thing most people know about COVID-19 is it hurts older people the most.
00:10:49.000And this is not suggesting that life itself is more valuable at a particular age.
00:10:54.000It's saying if you're going to tell somebody to go back to work and all you know about them is they're a 30-year-old without pre-existing conditions or a 70-year-old with pre-existing conditions, it makes it a pretty easy calculation.
00:11:03.000Okay, beyond that, when we're talking about how we get people back to work, we still have not found out.
00:11:08.000I mean, it's unbelievable to me that we've not done this.
00:11:10.000We still have not done random antibody testing in the United States to find out how many people have actually had this disease.
00:11:16.000That makes a huge difference, because if it turns out That the rates are one-tenth of what we have been told, right?
00:11:22.000If the rates actually are not 5 or 6 percent, they are 0.6 or 0.5 percent, that changes the math radically, especially because for younger and not as vulnerable people, the rates are going to look more like the seasonal flu, like 0.1 percent for people who are young and healthy.
00:11:34.000Now again, that doesn't mean that this is the flu, because the 0.1 percent death rate for the flu includes people who are older and vulnerable, and people who've had vaccine, and people who are out there in public doing all these sorts of things.
00:11:45.000With that said, To pretend that all age groups and all health groups are equally vulnerable to this thing, as the government keeps saying, because the government won't just tell you the truth.
00:11:56.000If you are young and you are healthy, your chances of dying from this thing are near zero.
00:12:00.000Okay, if you are young and healthy, your chances of dying from this thing are very, very close to zero.
00:12:04.000Because first, even if you have to acquire it, which many people will not acquire it, even if you do acquire it, according to the New York City health data, if you are young and you don't have pre-existing conditions, The number of people who have died in New York City, which is the epicenter of this thing, who are young and healthy, is minute.
00:12:23.000I mean, I looked at this data just before the holiday, and the New York City health data on COVID-19 is pretty clear about this.
00:12:31.000If you look at the rates of death by age, If you look at the COVID-19, probable COVID-19 deaths, so now I'm looking at the PDF that is last updated as of April 15th.
00:12:44.000The total number of people under the age of 45 in New York City, right, which has experienced now, what, 7, 8,000 deaths total, right?
00:12:53.000City of New York, number of people, no underlying conditions, under age of 45 who have died, 29. 29.
00:13:00.000Out of that grand total of number of people who have died.
00:13:03.000Grand total of people under 65 who have died with no underlying conditions would be 29 plus 67.
00:13:28.000By all available data, it spreads extremely easily.
00:13:30.000Also, the death rates are not nearly what the WHO pegs them at, like 3.4%.
00:13:36.000I have evidence of this that I will bring you again in one second.
00:13:38.000It's starting to be more consistent across sort of various different studies.
00:13:43.000I'll bring you a study from the Netherlands that really suggests that this thing does not have the sort of deadliness that people are suggesting.
00:13:50.000It has absolute deadliness because if a ton of people acquire a virus and it has a low percentage of killing people, still a lot of people die from the virus.
00:13:58.000But the absolute death rate of this thing is not as high as the WHO originally made it out to be, or any of the death rates that you're actually seeing in the media.
00:14:05.000I'll give you the evidence of this in just one second.
00:14:07.000First, let's talk about the fact that you are using earbuds on a regular basis now, right?
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00:15:12.000As I say, we still don't know the true case fatality rate.
00:15:16.000This is what I've been focused on for weeks here.
00:15:18.000How has it been weeks and we still don't have antibody tests?
00:15:20.000Why has it been left to private entrepreneurs and universities like Stanford to do this testing?
00:15:25.000How is it the CDC has not done random antibody testing in hotspots in the United States to determine how many people actually have this thing?
00:15:31.000Last week, or actually earlier this week, I reported to you that there was a study that was done in New York where something like 215 pregnant women came in.
00:15:40.000And 14% of them had COVID-19, but only 1.9% of them actually had symptoms of COVID-19, which suggests that the vast majority of people who've had COVID-19 or have COVID-19 are asymptomatic.
00:15:53.000What that means is that the denominator in your case fatality rate, even in New York City, is really, really high.
00:15:58.000Like a lot higher than it has been made out to be.
00:16:01.000And now we have another proof of this.
00:16:03.000According to one study, the head of Netherlands National Institute for Health, his name is Jaap van Dissel, announced on Thursday that 3% of all people in the Netherlands have the antibody for COVID-19.
00:16:31.000Basically, you get this thing, you are in serious trouble in the Netherlands.
00:16:35.000However, that antibody test shows that 3% of the population of the Netherlands actually already has the antibody, which means they've already had this thing.
00:16:41.000That means 518,400 cases of coronavirus based on their population.
00:16:46.000They're about 18 million people who live in the Netherlands.
00:16:48.000So instead of 29,000 diagnosed cases or 28,000 diagnosed cases, you're talking about an order of magnitude time and then multiply that by two, the number of people who actually have this thing.
00:16:59.000So 20 times the number of people have had this thing as the actual reported cases are.
00:17:05.000So that means that their case fatality rate in terms of death over number of people who have actually had this thing is not 11%.
00:18:17.000It suggests that it's idiotic to treat people who are young and healthy like people who are older when you are trying to come out of this thing.
00:18:25.000Beyond that, there is some serious question about exactly how you're gonna test for this thing.
00:18:31.000So as we will see, everybody is saying vast testing, vast testing regimens, big testing, temperature checks.
00:18:36.000First of all, temperature checks ain't gonna do crap.
00:18:38.000Temperature checks are completely useless in my opinion.
00:18:40.000The reason I say that they are completely useless is because Scott Gottlieb, the former FDA commissioner who's very big on testing, Scott Gottlieb quoted a study yesterday, quote, new study shows that people with COVID-19 may be most infectious before symptoms develop.
00:18:54.000So what the hell does a temperature check do?
00:19:32.000All you need is one person who's a super spreader to start it spreading in a community again.
00:19:36.000Now, coronavirus testing could be useful if it were really, really widespread and identifying hotspots, and then presumably you could do some contact tracing.
00:19:43.000But if this thing is so widespread that 3% of the population of the Netherlands already had it and they've been in lockdown, then it's going to be very difficult when people are asymptomatic to determine exactly how you lock this thing down.
00:19:54.000The best you can hope for is to lock down some of the hotspots, but you're never going to be able to completely remove it from the population.
00:20:00.000And that's why we have to be super accurate about what it is that we were attempting to do with the lockdown in the first place, and what things are going to look like when the lockdown ends.
00:20:07.000What things are going to look like when the lockdown ends is, if you have a pre-existing condition or you're elderly, you really shouldn't be going out in public.
00:20:25.000But for me, and my wife, and my kids, you know, there's really no reason for us not to go out.
00:20:31.000Now the question becomes whether we should socially distance.
00:20:34.000Okay, the only reason to socially distance is because I have parents who are 64, I would prefer not to pass it on to my parents.
00:20:39.000But as far as me acquiring it, or my wife acquiring it, or my kids acquiring it, there's not significant risk to them of death that is tremendously in excess of other risks that you go about On a daily basis.
00:20:51.000That doesn't mean go and have like coronavirus parties or something where you're infecting anybody else.
00:20:54.000But to be accurate about the risks, we ought to be accurate about the risks.
00:20:58.000We don't want infecting people who may have pre-existing conditions and are vulnerable and who are not staying indoors.
00:21:03.000But, again, as we will see, a lot of measures that are now being attempted, I'm not sure are actually going to be completely effective.
00:21:11.000I have serious questions about how this testing regimen that people are talking about is actually going to be implemented on a practical level.
00:21:17.000And whether, in fact, we ought to be pursuing a policy that basically says to people, if you are young and you are healthy, go back to work, wear a mask, socially distance so you're not increasing the risk of transmitting this to people who actually are vulnerable.
00:21:37.000There are some treatments that hospitals are now using.
00:21:39.000Remember, people keep saying vaccine, vaccine, vaccine.
00:21:41.000If a really good treatment comes along that mitigates the risk of coronavirus, then the vaccine is still really useful, but it doesn't become quite as urgent.
00:21:49.000It's not like we have to lock down until there's a vaccine if there's a treatment available that mitigates the effects of COVID-19 such that the risk of death goes down dramatically.
00:21:58.000First, let's talk about the fact that More than ever with this level of economic uncertainty, you need to know your business down to the nitty gritty.
00:22:05.000And when the economy opens back up, and when you are ready to go, you need your business to be ready and raring to go on every level.
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00:23:17.000CNN is reporting that patients are now being turned over on their stomach In the ICU or in the hospital, and that that is actually a pretty effective treatment for getting people oxygen to their lungs.
00:23:30.000According to CNN, doctors are finding that placing the sickest coronavirus patients on their stomachs, called prone positioning, helps to increase the amount of oxygen getting to their lungs.
00:23:39.000A doctor named Mangala Narasimhan, who works at Long Island Jewish Hospital, said, we're saving lives with this 100%.
00:23:46.000He said, it's such a simple thing to do.
00:24:25.000You've heard President Trump talk about it at some of the press conferences.
00:24:28.000This was originally, I believe, an HIV-AIDS drug, Remdesivir.
00:24:32.000Okay, and it was one of the first medicines identified as having the potential to impact COVID-19, according to statnews.com.
00:24:39.000The entire world has been waiting for results from Gilead's clinical trials.
00:24:42.000The University of Chicago Medicine recruited 125 people with COVID-19 into Gilead's two phase three clinical trials.
00:24:48.000Of those people, 113 had severe disease.
00:24:51.000All the patients were treated with daily infusions of Remdesivir.
00:24:54.000The results have not yet been released, but there was a tape of a University of Chicago infectious disease specialist talking about this study and it leaked.
00:25:27.000Gilead said in a statement on Thursday, what we can say at this stage is that we look forward to data from ongoing studies becoming available, which is basically they're not going to release the information as of yet.
00:25:35.000One of the reasons that people don't release preliminary information is because it creates holdups with things like the New England Journal of Medicine.
00:25:42.000Malayne said, "When we start the drug, we see fever curves falling." She says, "Fever is not now a requirement for people to go on trial.
00:25:48.000We do see when patients come in with high fevers, they do reduce quite quickly.
00:25:51.000We've seen people come off ventilators a day after starting therapy.
00:25:54.000So overall, our patients have done well.
00:25:59.000So that tells us duration of therapy doesn't have 10 days." The University of Chicago Medicine said that drawing conclusions at this point is premature and scientifically unsound.
00:26:07.000That's not stopping people from, of course, being deeply optimistic about this, which, again, I don't think is a problem.
00:26:13.000I think being optimistic about things is okay.
00:26:15.000You just have to recognize that there is an inherent amount of uncertainty.
00:26:19.000When these studies have not yet been fully vetted.
00:26:21.000Meanwhile, as I say, we're going to have to get used to the idea that a vaccine may be a ways off and that a vaccine may not even work because the virus is mutating.
00:26:29.000The question is whether it's mutating in such a way that it makes the disease not vaccine vulnerable.
00:26:36.000That vaccines only work on diseases where the disease does not change in a certain way particularly fast.
00:26:43.000It changes, but it doesn't change in such a way that the vaccine won't work on it.
00:26:46.000Flu changes, and it changes in such a way that the vaccine only works on certain strains of the flu.
00:26:50.000So one of the questions is whether coronavirus is going to be vulnerable to vaccines or not.
00:26:56.000According to the New York Times, it's unclear how mutations in the genome will ultimately affect countermeasures like a vaccine.
00:27:02.000So we may have to get used to the idea that a vaccine is a little ways away.
00:27:05.000And as I mentioned before, people are most transmissive when they are asymptomatic.
00:27:09.000So with all of that said, we can see that there's a tremendous amount of uncertainty and we are going to have to steer into the uncertainty.
00:27:49.000This is why when people were ripping on Sweden for having a more open society, and they're saying, well look, they've had an increased risk of people dying and getting infected.
00:27:56.000Right, because their society is more open.
00:28:00.000You're not going to know whether Sweden made the right call for a year.
00:28:03.000One year from now, if you come back and Sweden has had way more deaths on a per capita basis than other countries around it, then you're going to say Sweden made the wrong call.
00:28:10.000But, if Sweden ends up about the same as the other countries around it, or in the ballpark, and they didn't shut down their economy, everybody's going to be asking whether Sweden had this thing right from the beginning, and whether deep-scale lockdowns were actually the correct solution from the very beginning.
00:28:23.000Again, Singapore is seeing a second wave.
00:28:25.000And this is what I've been complaining about for a while, is that people are not being honest about what the second wave looks like.
00:29:03.000Initial jobless claims per week, when it got really bad in 2008-2009, you were seeing about half a million initial jobless claims per week at like the very beginning of 2009.
00:29:11.000We saw 22 million in four weeks in the United States.
00:29:20.000We're going to get to that in just one second, and then we're going to get to President Trump's plan to reopen.
00:29:25.000Because let's be real about this also, Democrats right now are holding hostage more small business funds.
00:29:29.000So at the same time that they are suggesting that lockdowns continue, and again, it's a bipartisan thing.
00:29:34.000There's some people who want lockdowns to continue, some people who want lockdowns alleviated, but along sort of grassroots partisan lines, Democrats largely want to see the lockdowns continue, and Republicans largely want to see the lockdowns come to an end ASAP.
00:29:47.000With all of that said, and again, it's not a completely partisan issue, but it does seem to be in sort of public opinion polling breaking down along partisan lines.
00:29:53.000For the Democrats to be holding up small business aid at this point, which is the only thing keeping people's income afloat, is really insane.
00:30:00.000And Nancy Pelosi was doing some of that yesterday.
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00:33:37.000So Nancy Pelosi has been holding up a small business fund refills.
00:33:47.000So the small business fund ran out like immediately because pretty much every small business in America needs a loan.
00:33:53.000Every small business in America has been forcibly shut down by government.
00:33:55.000And I saw some libertarians over the weekend who are sort of making the claim that it is anti-libertarian principle to take the small business loans.
00:34:02.000And as I have said, this is a taking, okay?
00:34:05.000According to libertarian principle, if the government forces you to, if the government were to drive a railroad through your backyard, they would have to compensate you for that.
00:34:12.000If the government were to drive a railroad through your house, they'd have to compensate you for that.
00:34:16.000The government is driving a railroad right through your business right now.
00:34:59.000More than 1.4 million loans approved as of Wednesday evening.
00:35:03.000They can't issue more loans until more money has actually been put forth by Congress.
00:35:08.000Naturally, Democrats are holding it up.
00:35:10.000President Trump says we need more funding.
00:35:12.000These small businesses are keeping people's paychecks going.
00:35:14.000I mean, one of the conditions, by the way, of actually taking a loan from the Paycheck Protection Program is that you have to continue to pay your employees.
00:35:22.000If you don't continue to pay, I think it's 90% of your employees at 90% of their salary or something like that, then you can't actually receive a loan.
00:35:28.000So people are getting the checks that are allowing them to sustain themselves during this time because of this program.
00:35:33.000Here's Trump saying we need to refill the fund.
00:35:35.000We're negotiating with Democrats and they should, frankly, approve it quickly.
00:35:40.000This is a great thing for our country.
00:35:41.000It's a great thing for small business and for the workers.
00:35:44.000And we're having a hard time getting them to approve it.
00:35:58.000If you look at what the Democrats are trying to dump into this program, according to the Wall Street Journal, Pelosi and Minority Leader Chuck Schumer have called for further changes to the program, plus significantly increased funding for disaster grants and loans, which is unrelated, plus additional support for food stamps, which is unrelated.
00:36:13.000Plus, collection and publication of demographic data so we can accurately determine the level of impact on underserved communities and communities of color.
00:36:21.000Because it deeply matters right now how we gather data on racial differences.
00:36:25.000By the way, if you're looking for correlative differences in how this stuff is affecting people, then there are two cross-cutting factors that matter a hell of a lot more than race.
00:36:35.000Poverty, pre-existing conditions, and age are the three things that matter.
00:36:38.000I can tell you why the Democrats are trying to break it down this way.
00:36:40.000Because again, they're going back to the well.
00:36:42.000The suggestion is, and they're making this suggestion fairly obvious, that if Trump mishandles this thing, that he has done so because he is racist.
00:36:49.000That is what they are going to suggest.
00:36:50.000They're going to suggest that differentials in treatment are because of underlying racism.
00:36:54.000They did the same exact bullcrap with George W. Bush after Hurricane Katrina.
00:36:58.000The suggestion was not that Bush just botched Hurricane Katrina.
00:37:00.000It's that he botched Hurricane Katrina because he didn't care enough for black people.
00:37:03.000And they're going to do exactly the same thing here.
00:37:05.000They're setting up the groundwork for an identity politics move here, and it's disgusting.
00:37:10.000I'm fine with you gathering any sort of data you want to gather, but if the implication is that America isn't doing enough for black people because they are black, as opposed to black people are dying at higher rates because black people are more likely to be suffering from pre-existing conditions, and if you want to connect that to historic poverty, You can try, but some of it has to do also with the fact that eating habits matter, that where you live matters.
00:37:32.000There are certain factors that crosscut race and are much more correlative than race itself.
00:37:36.000Democrats are trying to boil it down to race, as they always do.
00:37:38.000As the Wall Street Journal says, identity politics and social pork barrel trump jobs and business solvency.
00:37:47.000Nancy Pelosi was explaining why she was rejecting small loans to businesses while showing off $24,000 fridges in the background.
00:37:53.000Listen, I don't begrudge anybody owning a $24,000 fridge.
00:37:56.000Nancy Pelosi is a very, very wealthy person.
00:37:58.000She was on with James Corden, who is broadcasting from home.
00:38:01.000And again, owning expensive things, you have a right to do it.
00:38:04.000I'm just wondering why it is that Nancy Pelosi wants to prohibit people from getting the loans they need to sustain their businesses while she stands in front of her fancy fridges.
00:38:40.000Other people in our family go for some other fritters.
00:38:43.000I'm all for the beautiful fridge, but I'm not going to take it from Nancy Pelosi when she says she doesn't have enough data to back a refill of the small business funding.
00:39:49.000Rigorous oversight of government spending.
00:39:51.000When it's government wasting money on absolute bullcrap stupidity, then the Democrats are like, all in.
00:39:56.000But when it comes to, we need to help businesses that have been prohibited from doing business, then they're like, you know, we need the data.
00:40:41.000Folks, if you're going to do protests, let me make a recommendation.
00:40:43.000Socially distance and wear masks during the protests.
00:40:45.000It takes away the baton the media want to use against you.
00:40:47.000The media want to suggest that you are out there protesting because you don't care about the impacts of coronavirus and because you don't mind if it spreads.
00:40:54.000So why don't you socially distance during the protest and tell the media, yeah, we don't want to spread this thing, but we need to go back to work.
00:41:00.000It takes the baton right out of their hands.
00:41:02.000And the whole hog rejection of sort of basic scientific limits is very stupid PR, at least on that level.
00:41:08.000But I certainly understand the emotion that says we need to open this thing up again.
00:41:54.000But we have a lot of states that, through location, through luck, and also through a lot of talent — we have states through a lot of talent that are in a very good position, and they're getting ready to open.
00:42:05.000And over the next very short period of time, it's going to be up to the governors.
00:42:09.000And President Trump also laid out what he said was his basic plan for reopening yesterday.
00:42:15.000So let's go through these guidelines, because I think there's a lot here that's good, and I think that there's a lot here that is too optimistic, shall we say.
00:42:21.000It's setting the standards too high for reopening, because as I have said, In a quick and dirty fashion, the reality is we're all going to end up like Sweden.
00:42:29.000We're all going to end up saying to young people and to kids and to adults who are healthy, we are going to say to them, go out, live your lives, wear a mask, socially distance, and that's about all we can do.
00:42:40.000And if you're vulnerable and if you're elderly, Then you should probably stay in until treatments have been found.
00:42:45.000That's basically what Sweden has been doing.
00:42:49.000In fact, I'm fairly certain that Sweden is probably correct.
00:42:51.000Okay, so here are the criteria that's been set out by the White House.
00:42:55.000So they have a proposed phased approach based on up-to-date data and readiness.
00:42:59.000This is from the White House website, WhiteHouse.gov opening America.
00:43:04.000So, they want to satisfy, before proceeding to phased comeback, a downward trajectory of influenza-like illnesses reported within a 14-day period, and a downward trajectory of COVID-like syndromic cases reported within a 14-day period.
00:43:17.000They want a downward trajectory of documented cases within the 14-day period, or a downward trajectory of positive tests as a percentage of total tests within a 14-day period, so it declines every day for 14 days.
00:43:27.000They want hospitals to be able to treat all patients without crisis care and robust testing programs in place for at-risk healthcare workers, including emerging antibody testing.
00:43:35.000Okay, so here's the problem with this.
00:44:14.000We have not overwhelmed our healthcare system.
00:44:16.000Particularly every place outside of New York.
00:44:17.000There's no evidence that any place outside of New York City has seen an overwhelming of the healthcare system.
00:44:22.000Or we haven't seen it even in the hotspots like Detroit and New Orleans.
00:44:25.000There's really not been a lot of evidence that people are going without ventilators.
00:44:28.000Even in New York, Bill de Blasio and Andrew Cuomo have said there are not people who are waiting for ventilators who can't get ventilators.
00:44:36.000And all of the IHME studies that you dub study, right?
00:44:39.000That study was projecting hospital bed and ICU usage and ventilator usage far beyond what actually materialized.
00:44:46.000Okay, so if we have flattened the curve below that point, then you have to assume that there will be a second wave of infections when you come back.
00:44:52.000And that doesn't mean you shut down again.
00:44:53.000Okay, so that's problem number one with this plan.
00:44:57.000Okay, so state and local officials, according to the White House, may need to tailor the application of these criteria to local circumstances.
00:45:02.000For example, metropolitan areas that have suffered severe COVID outbreaks.
00:45:05.000Additionally, where appropriate, governors should work on a regional basis to satisfy these criteria.
00:45:10.000Okay, then core state preparedness responsibilities.
00:45:14.000Ability to set up safe and efficient screening and testing sites for symptomatic individuals and trace contact of COVID plus results.
00:45:35.000As I say, I think the standards here are too high.
00:45:36.000I don't think the standards are reachable.
00:45:38.000I think that if anybody ever held actually true to the White House standards, no one reopens ever.
00:45:42.000That's one of the problems with the White House standards.
00:45:44.000So the left is saying these standards are too loose.
00:45:46.000I'm saying I'm not even sure these standards are practical in terms of reaching the standard where you can reopen, except in rural areas where they're not bothering to do any testing.
00:45:53.000In fact, this creates an incentive not to do the testing, simply so you can say that your area is going to reopen.
00:46:00.000You have to ensure Sentinel surveillance sites are screening for asymptomatic cases and contacts for COVID plus results are traced.
00:46:07.000So that means that you have to have asymptomatic screening at places that serve older individuals, lower income Americans, racial minorities, Native Americans.
00:46:21.000The ICU capacity and the ventilators and the hospitals have to be able to do what they need to do, but that's about all you can do.
00:46:27.000And then they have to have a plan for advising citizens regarding protocols for social distancing and all of the rest.
00:46:32.000For individuals, they continue to say, don't touch your face, wash your hands with soap and water, especially after you touch frequently used items or surfaces and discard frequently used items as much as possible.
00:46:41.000If you feel sick, you should stay home.
00:46:43.000But again, that's not going to help because you're asymptomatic a lot of the time.
00:46:45.000They're saying that employers should have temperature checks.
00:46:48.000Again, I don't know what the purpose of temperature checks is.
00:46:50.000Everybody in my office could have it right now.
00:46:54.000Like, you don't know, especially among younger people.
00:46:57.000You're going to need to limit business travel, presumably, to sort of essential business travel, which of course continues to kill the airlines.
00:47:04.000And then phase one, all vulnerable individuals should continue to shelter in place.
00:47:09.000Members of households with vulnerable residents should be aware that by returning to work, they could carry the virus back home.
00:47:14.000Precautions should be taken to isolate from vulnerable residents.
00:47:17.000When in public, you should maximize physical distance, right?
00:48:16.000And then you continue to encourage telework, close common areas, consider special accommodations for personnel members of a vulnerable population.
00:48:24.000Schools and organized youth activities can reopen.
00:48:26.000Visits to senior care facilities and hospitals should continue to be prohibited.
00:49:42.000And as we find out from the antibody testing, that I think a multiple of the number of people who supposedly have this thing have had this thing, people are going to feel that the risk is worth undertaking if they are young, if they are healthy, if they do not feel that they are going to be deeply affected and as the treatments get better.
00:49:58.000So we're going to see a gradual reopening, and I think the reopening is going to happen sooner rather than later.
00:50:02.000I think the White House response is actually too restrictive in phase one.
00:50:05.000But I think once we hit the phases, that's basically how this is going to roll out.
00:50:08.000OK, so we've reached the end of today's show.
00:50:11.000We are out of time because we have to go and do other things.
00:50:13.000But we have two additional hours of content coming later today.
00:50:17.000We also have a great Sunday special coming up for you.
00:50:19.000This week we're going to be talking to Scott Gottlieb over at the former FDA commissioner about his plan for reopening.
00:50:25.000I'm going to ask him questions about testing.
00:50:27.000I'm going to ask him questions about antibody testing.