The Ben Shapiro Show - UNANIMOUS Supreme Court Puts Trump Back On The Ballot

00:00:00.000 Alrighty folks, so big win for Donald Trump at the Supreme Court today.

00:00:03.000 The Supreme Court rules 9-0, unanimous court.

00:00:06.000 You can't just toss Donald Trump off a ballot for the presidency of the United States in a state like Colorado.

00:00:11.000 You'll recall that just a couple of months ago, the Supreme Court in Colorado decided that it was perfectly acceptable to invalidate Donald Trump on the ballot in Colorado in the primaries and the general because he was quote-unquote an insurrectionist. 0.99

00:00:24.000 The basic premise of their argument was really stupid.

00:00:27.000 It was that because the Constitution of the United States bars from office insurrectionists, this means that the state government of Colorado can simply declare Trump an insurrectionist and then toss him off the ballot. 0.99

00:00:39.000 That had a bunch of legal problems with it.

00:00:41.000 Problem number one, how do you define insurrectionist?

00:00:43.000 Problem number two, even if you were going to define insurrectionist, that would theoretically have to be done at the federal level, not the state level, because it's a federal piece of legislation.

00:00:51.000 Problem number three, how do you even define it?

00:00:53.000 In terms of which party defines it in the federal government.

00:00:57.000 Is that done by some sort of elections board?

00:00:58.000 Is it done by the legislature?

00:01:00.000 How does it distinguish itself, the insurrectionist clause, from say issues with age?

00:01:05.000 Because the state could theoretically throw someone off the ballot if they were not say 35 years old and running for president.

00:01:10.000 They could say this person is not eligible, they don't get listed on the ballot, but that would be Pretty obvious from the federal language that person's not allowed.

00:01:16.000 Insurrectionist is a vague term of art.

00:01:18.000 Bottom line is the court rules 9-0 in favor of Donald Trump.

00:01:21.000 He has to be put back on the ballot in Colorado.

00:01:24.000 There is some minor controversy between the justices over exactly how in the future these sorts of issues are going to be adjudicated.

00:01:30.000 But again, the big takeaway is that 9-0, including all the Democratic appointed justices, they say the Colorado State Supreme Court cannot simply declare That Donald Trump is an insurrectionist and therefore he can't be on the ballot according to the court.

00:01:45.000 Proposed by Congress in 1866 and ratified by the states in 1868, the 14th Amendment, which is the section of the Constitution that has the Insurrectionist Clause, expanded federal power at the expense of state autonomy and thus fundamentally altered the balance of state and federal power struck by the Constitution.

00:02:01.000 Section 3 of the Amendment restricts state autonomy, but through a different means.

00:02:04.000 It was designed to help ensure an enduring union by preventing former Confederates from returning to power in the aftermath of the Civil War.

00:02:10.000 Section 3 works by imposing on certain individuals a preventive and severe penalty, disqualification from holding a wide array of offices, rather than by granting rights to all.

00:02:19.000 It's therefore necessary, as Chief Justice Chase concluded and the Colorado Supreme Court itself recognized, to ascertain what particular individuals are embraced by the provision.

00:02:28.000 The Constitution empowers Congress to prescribe how those determinations should be made.

00:02:32.000 So they say that under Section 5 of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution, it should be Congress defining who is an insurrectionist and who is not.

00:02:40.000 They say Congress's Section 5 power is critical when it comes to Section 3.

00:02:45.000 The case raises the question of whether states, in addition to Congress, can also enforce Section 3.

00:02:49.000 We conclude states may disqualify persons holding or attempting to hold state office, but states have no power under the Constitution to enforce Section 3 with respect to federal officials, especially the presidency.

00:03:00.000 So, the court is making two separate arguments.

00:03:02.000 Argument number one is that only Congress can define the word insurrectionist for purposes of who gets on the ballot and who does not.

00:03:09.000 Argument number two is that even if that were not the case, the states do not have the ability to do that.

00:03:14.000 So theoretically, you could have a different part of the federal government that actually created an enforcement mechanism that wasn't the legislature, but states don't have any power to enforce Section 3 with regard to federal offices, especially the presidency.

00:03:27.000 According to the court, power over governance does not extend to federal office holders and candidates.

00:03:32.000 Because federal officers owe their entire existence and function to the united voice of the whole, not a portion of the people, power over their election and qualifications must be specially delegated to, rather than reserved by, the states.

00:03:44.000 So, again, pretty easy, obvious opinion.

00:03:47.000 That doesn't mean there's not any controversy with regard to the opinion.

00:03:51.000 So, basically again, there were two arguments that were made.

00:03:55.000 The argument that's made about that it can only be Congress that determines who's an insurrectionist and who is not, that argument was not 9-0.

00:04:02.000 The second argument that was made, which is that states cannot simply toss people out for federal office because that's the federal government's job, that particular argument they agreed with.

00:04:13.000 As the court says, all nine members of the court agree with the result.

00:04:16.000 Our colleagues reading separately further agree with many of the reasons this opinion provides for reaching it.

00:04:21.000 So far as we can tell, they object only to our taking into account the distinctive way Section 3 works and the fact that Section 5 vests in Congress the power to enforce it.

00:04:28.000 Okay, so this leads to a concurrence.

00:04:34.000 With the slight dissent on sort of the rationale from the liberal justices, Sotomayor, Kagan, and Jackson.

00:04:39.000 And this entire opinion is written specifically to create sort of a sideshow of controversy.

00:04:45.000 Because again, this is 9-0, meaning there really is no controversy.

00:04:47.000 Everyone agrees.

00:04:48.000 Colorado can't just toss Trump off the ballot.

00:04:50.000 Illinois can't just toss Trump off the ballot.

00:04:52.000 Michigan, the same.

00:04:53.000 So the minority opinion here, concurring in judgment, tries to find a point of differentiation

00:05:00.000 from the majority opinion specifically so they can say that the majority opinion is

00:05:04.000 overreaching in favor of Trump.

00:05:06.000 And that's actually what they say.

00:05:09.000 They actually tried to go out of their way to say this.

00:05:10.000 So the dissenters, Sotomayor, Kagan, and Justice Jackson, again, they concur, but they're dissenting on this one part of the opinion.

00:05:17.000 They say that allowing Colorado to simply declare who can and can't be on the ballot would violate the Constitution of the United States.

00:05:24.000 But they say, quote, the majority goes further, even though all nine members of the court agree this independent and sufficient rationale resolves the case.

00:05:30.000 Five justices go on.

00:05:31.000 They decide novel constitutional questions to insulate this court and petitioner from future controversy.

00:05:36.000 Although only an individual state action is at issue here, the majority opines on which federal actors can enforce Section 3 and how they must do so.

00:05:42.000 The majority announces that a disqualification for insurrection can only occur when Congress enacts a particular kind of legislation pursuant to Section 5 of the 14th Amendment.

00:05:50.000 And here's the key part.

00:05:51.000 They say, quote, In doing so, the majority shuts the door on other potential means of federal enforcement.

00:05:55.000 We cannot join an opinion that decides momentous and difficult issues unnecessarily, and we therefore concur only in the judgment.

00:06:03.000 So I don't even understand their alternative theory of who exactly would decide it.

00:06:06.000 These musings are inadequately supported as they are gratuitous.

00:06:09.000 of section three must proceed.

00:06:11.000 Congress, the majority says, must enact legislation under section five prescribing procedures

00:06:15.000 to ascertain what particular individuals should be disqualified.

00:06:18.000 These musings are inadequately supported as they are gratuitous.

00:06:22.000 Again, they don't actually offer an alternative theory as to exactly how somebody would be disqualified.

00:06:30.000 But the bottom line is that they say that they're going out of their way

00:06:34.000 to basically rip the majority on the court, even though they agree with the majority on the court.

00:06:38.000 They say, quote, Section 3 serves an important, though rarely needed, role in our democracy.

00:06:43.000 The American people have the power to vote for and elect candidates for national office.

00:06:46.000 That is a great and glorious thing.

00:06:48.000 The men who drafted and ratified the 14th Amendment had witnessed an insurrection and rebellion to defend slavery.

00:06:52.000 They wanted to ensure that those who had participated in that insurrection and in possible future insurrections could not return to prominent roles.

00:06:58.000 Today, the majority goes beyond the necessities of this case to limit how Section 3 can bar an oath-breaking insurrectionist from becoming president.

00:07:04.000 Although we agree that Colorado cannot enforce Section 3, we protest the majority's effort to use this case to define the limits of federal enforcement of that provision.

00:07:12.000 So we concur only in the judgment.

00:07:14.000 They say the court quote reaches out to decide Section 3 questions not before us and to foreclose future efforts to disqualify a presidential candidate under that provision.

00:07:22.000 And basically, what they're saying is they did this for Trump.

00:07:25.000 Now, what's weird is that they're claiming that the Supreme Court majority went beyond its remit in order to help Trump, presumably because they think that if, say, Congress were run by Democrats, a simple piece of legislation not defining insurrection, but just saying Donald Trump cannot run because he is an insurrectionist might be sufficient.

00:07:42.000 Which, yeah, again, very, very doubtful that that's the case.

00:07:47.000 Bottom line, though, in the end, is what Amy Coney Barrett says.

00:07:50.000 She says this is 9-0.

00:07:51.000 We're done here.

00:07:52.000 Big win for Donald Trump.

00:07:53.000 Again, the attempt to bar Trump from the ballot failing only helps Trump.

00:07:57.000 And again, that's not the only factor Trump has going for him.

00:08:00.000 The polling data that came out over the course of the last three days is devastating for Joe Biden's campaign.

00:08:04.000 We'll get to more on this in just one second.

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00:09:14.000 So Joe Biden is in serious, serious trouble.

00:09:17.000 We say this often, but the reality is that Joe Biden has not led in the polls against Donald Trump for one third of a year.

00:09:24.000 The fact is that Donald Trump is the leader in the clubhouse right now.

00:09:27.000 If the election were held today, he wouldn't just win.

00:09:29.000 He would win by a fairly large electoral margin.

00:09:32.000 He would win about 293 electoral votes if the election were held today and maybe more given the trend lines in this particular election.

00:09:40.000 The latest evidence comes courtesy of a horrific poll for Joe Biden from the New York Times, Sienna.

00:09:46.000 It came out over the weekend and it is just awful for Joe Biden.

00:09:50.000 This poll shows that Donald Trump is beating Joe Biden 48 to 43.

00:09:56.000 But it's not really just the result of the poll, the top-line result of the poll that's a problem for Joe Biden.

00:10:00.000 It is all the crosstabs.

00:10:01.000 The crosstabs are a disaster for Joe Biden.

00:10:04.000 Crosstabs are the demographic breakdowns, by group, for the candidates.

00:10:08.000 So, under this rubric, the New York Times Siena Poll Rubric, by race, Donald Trump, in this poll, wins Hispanics outright, 46 to 40.

00:10:21.000 Let's just be clear about this.

00:10:22.000 Donald Trump, the guy who once tweeted out that he loves Mexicans because tacos, is beating Joe Biden 46 to 40 in this poll. 0.98

00:10:32.000 The guy who the entire media suggested would never be president because he said that Mexican rape is regressive.

00:10:39.000 That guy is winning Hispanics 46 to 40, which again demonstrates Hispanic not Not a great catch-all category.

00:10:45.000 Not a great catch-all term.

00:10:46.000 It actually encompasses a wide variety of people from a wide variety of backgrounds and countries.

00:10:50.000 He is winning them outright, 46 to 40.

00:10:52.000 But that's not the only shocking crosstab in this poll.

00:10:55.000 Among black voters, Joe Biden is winning just 66% versus 23% for Donald Trump.

00:11:02.000 66% is the number to note there.

00:11:04.000 23% is it?

00:11:05.000 If any Republican wins 23% of the black vote in a presidential race, that Republican will be president of the United States. 0.95

00:11:12.000 But 66% for Joe Biden is a full-scale disaster area.

00:11:15.000 You win two-thirds of the black vote and you're a Democrat?

00:11:18.000 You are toast in a presidential race.

00:11:20.000 Now, again, these crosstabs, you have to take them with a certain grain of salt.

00:11:23.000 They have huge margins of error.

00:11:25.000 Up to 10 points margins of error for some of these crosstabs because, again, when you do a poll, the accuracy of the poll depends on the number of people that you poll.

00:11:33.000 The larger, generally, the poll sample size, the more accurate the poll.

00:11:36.000 When you're looking at a poll like this one where you might have 90 people who are Hispanic responding, there's a lot of margin for error.

00:11:41.000 However, if this poll is even remotely close, Joe Biden is basically toast at this point.

00:11:47.000 Donald Trump is winning white voters outright 53 to 40.

00:11:52.000 In terms of age demographic, this is kind of a shocking one.

00:11:55.000 Joe Biden is winning people 65 and over, which is kind of surprising because very often the older votes tend to skew Republican.

00:12:02.000 But in this particular poll, and in this election cycle, voters aged 30 to 64 broadly favored Donald Trump over Joe Biden in this election, particularly people aged 45 to 64.

00:12:13.000 In other words, the people who are just above the millennials.

00:12:17.000 The sort of Gen X people.

00:12:18.000 Those people are voting 54 to 36 for Donald Trump according to this poll.

00:12:25.000 Women are split evenly between Biden and Trump. 0.99

00:12:27.000 There's not one good piece of data for Joe Biden in this poll.

00:12:32.000 And the most important thing about this poll is that what it does not show is that Joe Biden is wildly unpopular among Democrats, for example.

00:12:41.000 It shows there's a lack of enthusiasm for Joe Biden among Democratic base voters.

00:12:45.000 They're not quite as enthused to vote as Republican base voters would be.

00:12:48.000 The real problem for Joe Biden is not with his base.

00:12:51.000 This is what I've been saying.

00:12:52.000 The real problem for Joe Biden is not with the Hamasniks in Dearborn, Michigan. 1.00

00:12:56.000 The real problem for Joe Biden is not with radical BLM types inside the Democratic Party. 0.99

00:13:02.000 The problem for Joe Biden is that he governed as a radical Bernie Sanders type.

00:13:06.000 He got into office and he decided he was going to govern far to the left.

00:13:09.000 Instead of entering with the coalition that brought him and then dancing with them, he decided to jettison the entire center of the political spectrum And Donald Trump is gradually taking over the center of the political spectrum as we discussed last week on the show.

00:13:22.000 You cannot name a position in modern American politics where Joe Biden now occupies the center and Donald Trump occupies the periphery.

00:13:29.000 It's virtually always the other way around, including Mainstream Democrat issues like abortion.

00:13:34.000 It is Joe Biden who is saying things like abortion up until birth.

00:13:36.000 And it is Donald Trump who's not saying we ban abortion all the way from inception and conception.

00:13:41.000 He says we should ban abortion federally maybe at 16 weeks, which is a pretty broad consensus position in the American populace.

00:13:48.000 Joe Biden has abandoned the moderates.

00:13:50.000 Joe Biden has lost the moderates.

00:13:52.000 How do you win those people back?

00:13:54.000 Seriously, how do you do it?

00:13:56.000 I think it's too late for him.

00:13:58.000 This is a disaster area for— Nate Silver points this out.

00:14:01.000 Nate Silver, excellent poll analyst, who, again, has fallen out of grace with a bunch of left-wingers because he suggested Hillary Clinton was likely to win the 2016 election and then she didn't.

00:14:11.000 And then they got mad at the messenger.

00:14:14.000 And then because Nate Silver tried to explain why that had happened, they got very angry at him.

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00:15:22.000 So Nate Silver has a great piece over At his website, natesilver.net, in which he breaks down the problem in these polls for Joe Biden.

00:15:31.000 He says, Democrats usually assume they win elections through turnout rather than persuasion.

00:15:34.000 It's not a crazy proportion by any means, but it looks like a losing approach for 2024.

00:15:38.000 For most of recent history, more Americans identified as Democrats than Republicans.

00:15:42.000 That obviously didn't translate into Democratic victories 100% of the time.

00:15:46.000 Until relatively recently, Democrats did better among non-college voters than among college graduates.

00:15:51.000 Many Democrats are also racial minorities who face steeper barriers to voting, etc, etc.

00:15:55.000 But he says that, typically speaking, this has been the Democratic strategy, particularly since 2012.

00:16:00.000 I've pointed this out before.

00:16:02.000 Democrats fell in love in 2012 with the Barack Obama theory.

00:16:05.000 We don't need to go after the median voter.

00:16:07.000 The median voter can be safely abandoned.

00:16:09.000 All we need is our coalition of the oppressed and some college-educated white liberal ladies. 1.00

00:16:13.000 That's all we need.

00:16:15.000 Nate Silver points that out.

00:16:16.000 He said Mitt Romney, in the 2012 election, actually won independent voters.

00:16:19.000 But because Democrats had a bigger base, with 38% of voters in the national exit identifying as Democrats compared to 32% Republicans, Barack Obama won comfortably.

00:16:29.000 But as Nate Silver points out, Barack Obama's coalition cannot be updated for Joe Biden.

00:16:34.000 Barack Obama was a charismatic figure.

00:16:36.000 Barack Obama was the first black president. 0.95

00:16:37.000 Joe Biden is an old white man who can't speak English anymore.

00:16:41.000 And so what's actually happening with Joe Biden is that he, like Barack Obama in 2012, has given away the moderates.

00:16:47.000 He's given them away.

00:16:50.000 As Nate Silver points out, when it comes to independent voters, it's a great thing to think about.

00:16:56.000 If you are an independent voter and you switch your vote, let's say you voted Biden in 2020 and now you're voting for Trump, what you just did is actually worth twice what a base voter showing up did.

00:17:06.000 A base voter showing up means that the base voter, let's say their marginal voter didn't vote in 2020, did vote in 2024.

00:17:13.000 So let's say that you have 20 people who are voting and then a marginalized voter shows up and votes for you.

00:17:20.000 So now you win 11 to 10.

00:17:22.000 Here's what happens if an independent voter who voted in 2020 switches.

00:17:26.000 Let's say that it was split 10 to 10.

00:17:28.000 That voter takes a vote away from one side and gives it to the other, creating a two-vote margin.

00:17:34.000 Instead of it now being 11 to 10, it shifts to 11 to 9.

00:17:37.000 So an independent voter is actually worth more in terms of margin of victory than just any person who is going to vote for the Democratic side and didn't show up in 2020.

00:17:49.000 Ray says, the underlying arithmetic of how votes are tallied means that flipping a voter is worth twice as much as turning a non-voter out.

00:17:56.000 Plus, the composition of the electorate has changed.

00:17:58.000 Democrats have lost their edge on party ID in a lot of polls.

00:18:02.000 This is what happened, by the way, in the state of Florida, which has now turned bright red.

00:18:05.000 That's because Republicans did the on-the-ground work of going and registering Republican voters, which means that Democrats do not have a base turnout advantage in the state of Florida, plus independents tend to vote Republican in the state of Florida.

00:18:15.000 So it shifted from a purple state to a very red state.

00:18:19.000 So, as Nate Silver points out, in Gallup polling throughout 2023, the same percentage of Americans identify now as Democratic and Republican.

00:18:28.000 43% now ID as independent, which means independent voters should be more important to Joe Biden, but that's who he's forgotten about.

00:18:35.000 So it's one thing to say, I'm going to appeal to the base when 38% of voters say they're Democrats and 32% say they're Republicans.

00:18:41.000 It's a whole other thing when 27% of people say they are Republicans and 27% of people say they're Democrats and 43% say neither.

00:18:49.000 Which means they hate both candidates.

00:18:51.000 So, who's going to win those people?

00:18:54.000 Now, as Nate Silver points out, the reality is that Donald Trump is winning those people going away.

00:19:02.000 The poll from the New York Times-Siena asked voters who they voted for in 2020, and then asked them who they plan to vote for in 2024.

00:19:11.000 So, bizarrely, the poll showed that the recalled vote, you know, people who said they voted in 2020, what they said was that they voted by Biden by a 12-point margin.

00:19:20.000 Now, again, that demonstrates this is actually a Democrat-heavy poll because the reality is that Joe Biden did not win by 12 points.

00:19:27.000 Joe Biden won by 4.5 percentage points.

00:19:29.000 But they say that they voted in 2020, this voting base, 53-41 for Joe Biden.

00:19:38.000 Now, all those same voters asked, who are you gonna vote for in 2024?

00:19:41.000 Said Trump, 48 to 43, which means Biden lost 10 points off of the 2020 vote among these voters.

00:19:48.000 And Donald Trump gained seven points, which makes sense, right?

00:19:51.000 Not everybody who shifted from Biden loves Donald Trump, but most of them are willing to vote for Donald Trump.

00:19:56.000 So what he says is that in the poll, only 83% of voters who say they chose Biden in 2020 plan to vote for him this year.

00:20:03.000 97% of those who voted for Trump plan to vote for Trump again.

00:20:06.000 Those are swing voters, people who are willing to move from one party to the other, and there are many of them.

00:20:13.000 And the point that Nate Silver makes is that for every 10 voters who are voting to Donald Trump, fewer than one are switching over to Joe Biden from the Trump camp.

00:20:22.000 In other words, Donald Trump is winning independence right now, and that means that he is likely to win the election.

00:20:28.000 This poll data, by the way, is supported by further polling over the weekend from both the Wall Street Journal and CBS News.

00:20:35.000 According to a brand new CBS News poll, when asked how they would rate the presidencies of Donald Trump and Joe Biden, when they say, Donald Trump, looking back, was it excellent or good or fair or poor?

00:20:46.000 46% say excellent or good.

00:20:49.000 53% say fair or poor about Donald Trump.

00:20:51.000 Joe Biden so far, only 33% say excellent or good.

00:20:54.000 67% say fair or poor.

00:20:58.000 When they look back on the economy, 65% of people polled in the CBS poll, which by the way, shows Trump up 52-48 over Joe Biden.

00:21:07.000 65% say that Donald Trump's economy was good, compared to 28% who say that it was bad in the CBS poll.

00:21:13.000 Joe Biden, 38% say the economy is good, as opposed to 59% who say that the economy is bad.

00:21:22.000 And again, a huge percentage of this is about inflation.

00:21:26.000 55% of registered voters say that Joe Biden's policies make the prices go up.

00:21:30.000 As opposed to 34% who say that Donald Trump's policies created inflation.

00:21:34.000 Because, obviously, they didn't.

00:21:37.000 Now again, these are disaster numbers for Joe Biden.

00:21:41.000 And issue by issue, it's almost impossible to see how Joe Biden wins this election under these circumstances.

00:21:48.000 Most Democrats are disheartened about what's happening in this election cycle.

00:21:53.000 By the way, so are most Republicans.

00:21:54.000 It turns out that most people generally are not super happy about the candidates they have, but they are way unhappier with Joe Biden.

00:22:01.000 Why?

00:22:01.000 Because their hopes were disappointed.

00:22:03.000 Joe Biden actually, I've pointed this out many times, when Joe Biden came into office, his approval rating was in the mid-50s.

00:22:09.000 Close to 60%.

00:22:10.000 He is now down in the 40s.

00:22:12.000 When Donald Trump entered office, his approval rating was at like 48%.

00:22:16.000 And when he left office, his approval rating was like 43%.

00:22:19.000 In other words, people didn't have high hopes for Trump.

00:22:22.000 And then those hopes might have been mildly disappointed.

00:22:23.000 I'm not talking about Republicans.

00:22:25.000 I'm talking about the general voting base.

00:22:27.000 Joe Biden came into office on the wings of eagles.

00:22:30.000 And then he proceeded to drive the plane directly into the ground for himself.

00:22:36.000 According to this CBS News poll, most of Biden's voters feel the election is mostly about stopping Trump.

00:22:41.000 Most of Trump's voters say that they are voting Trump because they like him, not because they hate Joe Biden.

00:22:48.000 So Democrats, not in love with Joe Biden, many switching over to Trump.

00:22:52.000 Disaster area for Joe Biden.

00:22:53.000 Again, Wall Street Journal poll, same data today.

00:22:56.000 Trump, up 47-45.

00:22:59.000 Voters are slightly more upbeat on the economy, but they don't credit it to Joe Biden.

00:23:03.000 They're saying that this is happening in spite of Joe Biden.

00:23:06.000 And underlying all of this, of course, is the simple fact that Joe Biden is just too old.

00:23:11.000 Every poll shows a huge majority of people, including a huge majority of Democrats, think Joe Biden is no longer with us because he's not.

00:23:19.000 And here's the thing.

00:23:20.000 That ain't going to reverse itself.

00:23:22.000 We'll get to more on this in just a moment.

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00:24:17.000 Joe Biden could reverse himself positionally.

00:24:24.000 He could theoretically start to embrace moderation on the border.

00:24:27.000 He could theoretically start to embrace moderation on spending.

00:24:29.000 He could theoretically allow, for example, Israel to defeat Hamas and stand up against Hamas next in his own party.

00:24:35.000 He could do all of those things, and that might marginally change the trajectory of the race.

00:24:39.000 But in the end, people tend to vote based on who they see in front of them.

00:24:42.000 And what they see is a corpse.

00:24:44.000 What they see in Joe Biden is an actual dead person.

00:24:47.000 And it turns out that Americans, in 2020, they were promised a staid, sober administration.

00:24:54.000 The adult's back in charge.

00:24:55.000 And if the guy was slightly senile, OK. 0.99

00:24:57.000 And it turns out he's just a crazy old man who rants at the moon and walks into walls while gruel falls out of his mouth. 0.98

00:25:04.000 And that's not a great look. 0.99

00:25:06.000 Because now they're being asked to choose between crazy on the one hand, which is how Americans perceive Donald Trump. 0.99

00:25:12.000 And crazy and senile in Joe Biden. 0.98

00:25:14.000 Because, again, Joe Biden moved too far to the left. 0.99

00:25:17.000 It was one thing to say, I'm a houseplant, right?

00:25:19.000 This was his claim.

00:25:21.000 He's a houseplant hiding the Democratic Party radical water stain.

00:25:24.000 That's what he was there for.

00:25:24.000 It's a big water stain right there on the carpet.

00:25:26.000 Take President Houseplant, put him on the water stain, all your problems are solved.

00:25:30.000 And then it turns out that the houseplant is leaky and it's making the water stain significantly bigger.

00:25:34.000 And most Americans, particularly swing voters, do not like this at all.

00:25:38.000 And all of that, Just reinforces feelings about his age.

00:25:41.000 And he ain't getting younger.

00:25:42.000 That's the one thing you can't reverse. 0.99

00:25:43.000 I don't care how much crap you shoot into that guy. 1.00

00:25:45.000 That dude is dead. 0.99

00:25:47.000 And he, I mean, physically, he is no longer with us.

00:25:49.000 And it's, the more you see of him, the worse it gets.

00:25:52.000 And this is a big problem for Joe Biden.

00:25:55.000 The more of Donald Trump you see, the more of Donald Trump you see.

00:25:58.000 I've said this since 2015, 2016. 1.00

00:26:00.000 Donald Trump is a mud monster. 1.00

00:26:02.000 The more mud you throw at him, the more he just becomes full of mud. 1.00

00:26:06.000 Joe Biden, every time he goes out, he hurts himself.

00:26:09.000 Every time he's on camera.

00:26:11.000 And every time he's not on camera, he hurts himself because we know that he's hiding.

00:26:14.000 You can play a basement strategy when you're not the president of the United States.

00:26:17.000 And in fact, that's what Donald Trump should do in this campaign.

00:26:19.000 Joe Biden cannot play the basement strategy.

00:26:21.000 He's the current president of the United States.

00:26:24.000 And so the guns are starting to open up, even from the left, on Joe Biden.

00:26:29.000 So you can see, it's every day, every single day, the Biden administration has to trot out people who are not Joe Biden to convince everybody that Bernie is alive, that the corpse is actually alive.

00:26:39.000 And it's not working.

00:26:40.000 Because first rule of politics, if you have to explain that you are not the thing, you're definitely the thing.

00:26:46.000 So when you send out Alejandro Mayorkas to talk about how bright and with it you are behind closed doors, but then you walk out and you basically are stumbling around, bumbling around.

00:26:55.000 Well, it makes your people look like both liars and also political hacks.

00:27:00.000 Here's Alejandro Mayorkas being both.

00:27:03.000 Obviously this is art, but they do this because they try to make a point that there is a discussion in the Zeitgeist.

00:27:10.000 There is a reason that they did a whole thing about Joe Biden's age.

00:27:14.000 Do you want to have a real statement about it, about what you witnessed?

00:27:18.000 They should spend a bit of time with Joe Biden like I have done.

00:27:23.000 Let me share something with you.

00:27:25.000 I prepare a lot for meetings with him and engagements with him because he's remarkably detail-oriented, probing, and operationally focused.

00:27:35.000 Okay, that was on Sunday.

00:27:37.000 The prior night, Saturday Night Live did an entire opening skit about members of the Biden

00:27:42.000 administration saying this stuff.

00:27:43.000 And then they went on confirmed Sunday by doing it.

00:27:46.000 So here on Saturday Night Live, is Saturday Night Live performing the rare feat of actually

00:27:50.000 attacking a Democrat by pointing out that all of his administration officials, all of

00:27:54.000 his allies are out there claiming that he's totally with it when he totally is not.

00:27:59.000 On Tuesday, President Joe Biden won the Michigan primary, but a New York Times poll today has

00:28:04.000 him down five points and many voters still have concerns about his age.

00:28:08.000 Here with me is Governor of California and Biden advocate, Gavin Newsom.

00:28:13.000 Great to be with you, Dana.

00:28:15.000 I understand people care about the president's age, but what they should care about is his record.

00:28:20.000 Look at what Joe Biden has done for America.

00:28:22.000 He's created more jobs than any president in history, inflation is down, the shamrock shake is back, and Beyonce has gone country.

00:28:30.000 Thank you, Joe.

00:28:31.000 We are now joined live by Secretary of Homeland Security Alejandro Mayorkas.

00:28:35.000 Thanks for having me, Dana.

00:28:37.000 Man, I am exhausted.

00:28:38.000 I was with Joe Biden for the past weekend and, whew, he wiped me out.

00:28:43.000 Okay, so you feel he's up to the job.

00:28:45.000 Dana, I was just with him.

00:28:47.000 And behind closed doors, he's a dynamo.

00:28:50.000 This weekend, we both went down to the border town of Brownsville, Texas, and Joe went into beast mode.

00:28:56.000 He said, we gotta tighten this border.

00:28:58.000 Look how easy I can cross it.

00:28:59.000 Then he parkoured up to the top of the border wall.

00:29:03.000 He front-flipped into the Rio Grande and came back up with a fish in his mouth.

00:29:09.000 When SNL is going after a Democrat, you know that Democrat is in serious trouble.

00:29:12.000 Bill Maher also going after Joe Biden because Bill will say the truth about Joe Biden, which is that he is no longer with us, the late lamented President of the United States.

00:29:20.000 Instead of trying to refute all the too-old-to-be-president slams, Joe must embrace them.

00:29:27.000 Stop with the, I'm sharper than ever.

00:29:29.000 Nobody's buying that.

00:29:32.000 Don't try to deny the age thing.

00:29:34.000 Lean into it.

00:29:35.000 Lean in.

00:29:36.000 Lean in like you're eating soup.

00:29:39.000 And just admit it.

00:29:40.000 Say, yes, I'm bad with names.

00:29:42.000 And I walk like a toddler with a full diaper.

00:29:49.000 But I believe in democracy.

00:29:52.000 Because Joe's problem is not a new one for Democrats.

00:29:56.000 Not the age thing specifically.

00:29:58.000 But the idea of letting the opposition intimidate you into being defensive about who you really are.

00:30:05.000 Yes, that we've seen before.

00:30:06.000 John Kerry pretending to be a duck hunter.

00:30:11.000 Hillary carrying hot sauce in her purse.

00:30:14.000 Laughter. 1.00

00:30:18.000 Americans hate that s***. 0.99

00:30:21.000 Be yourself. 1.00

00:30:22.000 And Joe, yourself is old.

00:30:25.000 That's who you are.

00:30:28.000 Old.

00:30:29.000 Okay, the problem with that is that no one wants that.

00:30:34.000 So he's stuck between a rock and a hard place.

00:30:35.000 I mean, Mario's giving him the best advice, which is, you can't avoid it, so just, you know, embrace it.

00:30:39.000 But the problem is, no one wants that.

00:30:42.000 And Joe's not just old, Joe is not with it.

00:30:45.000 He stumbles out, he goes, and then a fire breaks out in the Middle East.

00:30:50.000 He stumbles out, and suddenly there's a riot somewhere.

00:30:54.000 And nobody wants that.

00:30:56.000 No one.

00:30:56.000 We'll get to more on this in just one second.

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00:31:53.000 So, leftists are now in the middle of seething and coping.

00:31:57.000 They have now, they're now performing the Kathleen Kennedy strategy.

00:32:01.000 We call it the Kathleen Kennedy strategy.

00:32:02.000 So, Kathleen Kennedy is the head of the Lucasfilm division over at Disney.

00:32:07.000 So, she's been in charge of the Star Wars So, Kathleen Kennedy and the people at Disney have come up with a strategy.

00:32:23.000 It's a strategy that's now being imitated all over Hollywood.

00:32:27.000 And the strategy is this.

00:32:28.000 Make a movie no one likes and then yell at the audience about how intolerant they are when the movie fails.

00:32:32.000 So you make a movie like The Last Jedi, and you make an absolutely, interminably awful character like Rose.

00:32:38.000 And then, when the audience doesn't like the movie, you say, well, it's because you just don't like Asian people in Star Wars.

00:32:45.000 That obviously has been a giant fail for Hollywood, because it turns out that ripping the audience is a terrible way to get people to come see your movies.

00:32:52.000 And actually, it doesn't win you friends, it doesn't win you admi- and it doesn't make your movies better.

00:32:56.000 And it also blinds you to the reality, which is that you need to course-correct when it comes to your own movies. 1.00

00:33:02.000 Because you end up just doubling down on stupid. 0.97

00:33:04.000 If you keep blaming the audience over and over and over, then you're just gonna keep making the same crappy movie 87 times in a row, and every time it fails, you're gonna say, it's not me, it's the audience. 0.99

00:33:12.000 Okay, well, Joe Biden is doing that right now, and his entire team is doing that right now.

00:33:16.000 Democrats have decided that it's not Joe, it's you.

00:33:20.000 This is a strategy for failure.

00:33:22.000 And so the media was replete over the weekend with members of the left suggesting that the real problem is voting Americans. 0.98

00:33:28.000 The real problem is the insane insipidity, foolishness of the normal voting American. 0.95

00:33:35.000 The normal voting American just doesn't get it. 1.00

00:33:37.000 They're racist. 1.00

00:33:38.000 They're sexist. 1.00

00:33:39.000 They're terrible. 0.99

00:33:40.000 They're threats to democracy. 0.75

00:33:41.000 So, for example, MSNBC, which is the repository of this entire strategy, had on a University of Maryland political science professor named Thomas Schaller who promptly explained that white rural voters are a threat to democracy. 0.61

00:33:52.000 Now, what a normal political party would do is say, why aren't we winning white rural voters? 0.72

00:33:56.000 What are their concerns?

00:33:57.000 Perhaps we should listen to those and maybe we have some crop.

00:33:59.000 Maybe we don't.

00:34:00.000 Maybe their agenda doesn't cross over with ours at all and we're just going to forego their votes.

00:34:04.000 That's what a normal political party would do. 0.71

00:34:06.000 This Democratic Party has decided if white rural voters will not vote for Joe Biden, which by the way is the reason he was nominated, is because the idea was he was going to cut into Donald Trump's white rural voting base.

00:34:16.000 And by the way, he did.

00:34:17.000 If you look, statistically speaking, Donald Trump actually underperformed in rural areas and overperformed in urban areas in 2020.

00:34:23.000 So it actually worked for Joe Biden. 0.96

00:34:24.000 Then he promptly abandoned those people and now They're relegated to saying that all those people are racist, fascist Nazis out in the sticks. 0.63

00:34:33.000 Why are white rural voters a threat to democracy at this point? 0.64

00:34:36.000 You would think, as we pointed out, looking at Joe Biden's background and Donald Trump's, that the opposite would be true.

00:34:43.000 I mean, we lay out the fourfold interconnected threat that white rural voters pose to the country, first of all. 1.00

00:34:49.000 And we show 30 polls and national studies to demonstrate this.

00:34:52.000 We provide the receipts in Chapter six. 0.97

00:34:54.000 They're the most racist, Xenophobic, anti-immigrant, anti-gay, geodemographic group in the country. 0.99

00:35:00.000 Second, they're the most conspiracist group. 0.98

00:35:02.000 QAnon support and subscribers, election denialism, COVID denialism and scientific skepticism, Obama birtherism.

00:35:09.000 Third, anti-democratic sentiments.

00:35:12.000 They don't believe in an independent press, free speech.

00:35:14.000 They're most likely to say the president should be able to act unilaterally without any checks from Congress or the courts or the bureaucracy.

00:35:20.000 They're also the most strongly white nationalists and white Christian nationalists.

00:35:24.000 And fourth, they are most likely to excuse or justify violence as an acceptable alternative to peaceful public discourse. 0.98

00:35:32.000 They're all Nazis, okay? 0.83

00:35:33.000 So again, if you actually were to look at the data on this, what you would see is that the data tends to suggest that a fairly small minority of people actually believe all the things that this person just said.

00:35:43.000 He says they're the most likely subgroup in the United States to believe this.

00:35:46.000 It doesn't mean the vast majority of white rural voters are all Nazis.

00:35:49.000 But even if that were true, the reality is that if you want to win an election, presumably, you're going to have to figure out some commonality.

00:35:56.000 Like, if you just yell at them, You're not going to win their votes.

00:35:59.000 Pretty obviously.

00:35:59.000 And again, this is so bizarre because Bill Clinton's entire pitch in 1992 and 1996 is that he was going to win those voters.

00:36:07.000 That also happened to the pitch of, for example, Howard Dean in 2004.

00:36:10.000 And then it was the pitch once again of actually Barack Obama in 2008.

00:36:16.000 He went after a lot of those voters.

00:36:18.000 But Democrats have decided that since 2012, they're just going to abandon that voting base.

00:36:21.000 And then, if they lose, they're just going to call everyone they disagree with Nazis, which, of course, reinforces the entire reactionary swing the country is experiencing right now.

00:36:29.000 Batja Ungersargen, who is not a member of the right wing.

00:36:33.000 I know Batja.

00:36:34.000 Very nice person.

00:36:35.000 Batja is also a good political analyst from the left, and she was on Bill Maher.

00:36:39.000 And they were talking about this.

00:36:41.000 And she says the problem for Joe Biden is not that he is losing his base.

00:36:43.000 This is what the stats show.

00:36:44.000 The problem is that working class voters do not like him.

00:36:47.000 They feel he has abandoned them.

00:36:49.000 And when you just rip into voters, it turns out they don't like you very much.

00:36:53.000 Should Democrats be worried about the 100,000 uncommitted votes in the Michigan primary?

00:36:58.000 Oh, yes, I read about this.

00:36:59.000 Will protest votes over Biden's policy in Gaza cost him the election in the fall?

00:37:03.000 What are your thoughts?

00:37:05.000 I think that the media really, really wants to put this narrative out there that Biden is going to lose Michigan over Gaza when the truth is he's going to lose Michigan over 600,000 autoworkers because his EV market was extremely punishing to autoworkers.

00:37:24.000 And like we said earlier, There's been this big realignment where working class Americans are very, very, very much on the Trump train.

00:37:32.000 people who used to be Democrats and used to vote for Democrats and rather than admit that,

00:37:36.000 this outrage that Democrats lost the working class vote and try to figure out how we can

00:37:40.000 appeal to them again, they're looking for excuses and other things to blame like, oh,

00:37:44.000 this war in Gaza, or they'll call them deplorables, or they'll call them racist, you know, because

00:37:48.000 they don't want to admit that Trump has picked up a lot of the policies that used to be Democratic

00:37:54.000 policies in the 90s, like controlling the border, for example, the idea that an open

00:37:59.000 border and mass migration is extremely punishing to the working class.

00:38:03.000 It drives down their wages.

00:38:04.000 It's class warfare against the working class. 0.88

00:38:07.000 It is an upward transfer of wealth from the working class who end up competing with immigrants to the elites who end up employing them and now they can employ cheap immigrants instead of having to pay working class Americans a living wage. 0.73

00:38:19.000 She's totally right.

00:38:20.000 She's totally right.

00:38:20.000 And Democrats used to own that crowd.

00:38:22.000 And now they've given up that crowd.

00:38:23.000 Again, what the polls are showing is that Joe Biden, the entire middle of the country, what we are watching, what this election could be.

00:38:29.000 I mean, not guaranteed.

00:38:30.000 It's still very early.

00:38:32.000 You could be watching a political realignment in real time.

00:38:35.000 Again, Democrats thought that they were going to be able to unify an entirely minority base with some white college-educated ladies. 1.00

00:38:41.000 That was the 2012 base, and they were just going to replicate it over and over.

00:38:44.000 The dirty secret of 2020 is that Joe Biden actually carved into some of the blue-collar base that Donald Trump owned in 2016.

00:38:51.000 In 2024, he's going to lose all those people.

00:38:53.000 Not only is he going to lose all those people, it turns out that, believe it or not, Demographics is not necessarily destiny.

00:39:00.000 It turns out that Hispanic voters may in fact turn out in larger numbers than certainly usual for Donald Trump.

00:39:07.000 He won 30 to 35% of that vote in the last couple election cycles.

00:39:09.000 He could win 40 to 45% in this election cycle.

00:39:13.000 If you get 20% of the black vote, that is double what any Republican has received for generations.

00:39:18.000 That could happen too.

00:39:19.000 You could be watching an actual realignment, not caused again by Donald Trump, a realignment caused by the failures of Joe Biden because he decided that he was going to be a historic president and his ego overtook him.

00:39:31.000 His ego made him think he was going to be LBJ or FDR.

00:39:35.000 But the dirty secret about LBJ and FDR is they had the white working class on their side. 0.59

00:39:39.000 You know who the Democrats currently do not have?

00:39:41.000 Because they've separated them off from the priorities of their party, the white working class. 0.75

00:39:46.000 It's a real problem for them, and it's not going to stop.

00:39:49.000 And everybody who's looking at the economy can see this happening.

00:39:53.000 For example, Fascinating article in the UK Daily Mail today says taxpayer-funded guaranteed income programs that hand struggling families up to $36,000 with no strings attached are being rolled out across the country, according to the UK Daily Mail.

00:40:05.000 The schemes, whose total value exceeds $125 million, have surged in popularity since the pandemic as progressive leaders embrace cash handouts to support Americans below the poverty line.

00:40:15.000 But the radical projects have been criticized after it emerged that one mother of three in Washington, D.C.

00:40:19.000 spent more than half of a $10,800 lump sum payment on a luxury holiday to Miami along with a new wardrobe for her kids and a glow up for herself.

00:40:28.000 This sort of stuff is quite reminiscent of the sort of welfare queen rhetoric of the 1980s.

00:40:34.000 You could be watching the remaking of the Reagan coalition in real time because Democrats are terrible at this.

00:40:41.000 Meanwhile, Joe Biden is racking up debt at such an exorbitant pace at this point that there is no way out but through.

00:40:47.000 The American government is going to have to do two things simultaneously.

00:40:49.000 One, cut spending and figure out what the hell to do with entitlements.

00:40:52.000 And two, grow the economy like gangbusters.

00:40:54.000 Nobody believes that Joe Biden is going to do either of those things.

00:40:58.000 And so what you're looking at is the possibility of a fairly serious long-term secular stagnation.

00:41:03.000 Secular just meaning across the entire economy, not in any one industry.

00:41:07.000 A secular stagnation.

00:41:09.000 According to a Wharton professor named Hao Gomez, he says that the $34 trillion debt burden of the United States could upset the world's financial markets as early as next year.

00:41:22.000 Especially if a president-elect announces a raft of expensive policies.

00:41:26.000 Well, you know that that's exactly what Joe Biden is going to do.

00:41:28.000 He keeps saying it over and over that he wants more expensive policies, which of course would make it difficult for America to raise more debt.

00:41:36.000 Meanwhile, the Biden administration is pursuing the world's worst immigration policies.

00:41:39.000 What Batya said right there about the fact that you are now having a Democratic Party that is importing cheap labor in order to help business allies.

00:41:47.000 That is 100% true.

00:41:47.000 That is obviously the case.

00:41:51.000 The Democratic Party has to prop up the inflationary economy with deflationary wages.

00:41:56.000 That's the only way you get to deflation.

00:41:58.000 The way you get to deflation is by lowering the wage burden.

00:42:01.000 So Democrats have a real problem.

00:42:02.000 If they want an inflationary economy, they need unions, right?

00:42:06.000 If you want union power that inflates wages artificially.

00:42:12.000 And the Biden administration works with the unions.

00:42:13.000 But at the same time, you can't let the unions dominate the labor base because if they do, it's going to inflate the currency.

00:42:19.000 So what do you have to do?

00:42:20.000 You actually have to bring in a sub-wage labor base. 0.99

00:42:25.000 You have to bring them in and have them work illegally. 1.00

00:42:28.000 So at the same time that you're pushing the unions, who are your political allies, so they can make their money and then spend that money on you getting elected, you have to bring in a labor base that's actually going to lower prices for the vast majority of American consumers, which is what cheap labor does from illegal immigration.

00:42:40.000 The problem is that Americans can see what's happening in real time and they do not like it.

00:42:45.000 By the way, this is amazing.

00:42:46.000 The Biden administration is now starting to openly admit how many people they brought into the country.

00:42:50.000 According to Axios, more than 8 million asylum seekers and other migrants will be living inside the United States in legal limbo by the end of September.

00:42:58.000 That is a 167% increase in five years alone.

00:43:03.000 That's insane.

00:43:03.000 There are only 3 million people who are living inside the United States in legal limbo who had not had a hearing or whatever.

00:43:09.000 As of 2019, it is now up to 8 million.

00:43:13.000 The backlog has absolutely exploded under Joe Biden.

00:43:18.000 And that is not just because we don't have enough funding for the border courts.

00:43:22.000 It is because Joe Biden has opened the border wide and given everybody a date certain to come back by and no one shows up again.

00:43:30.000 And as the Wall Street Journal points out, businesses are relying more on migrant workers as labor shortages persist.

00:43:36.000 According to the Wall Street Journal, dependence on imported workers is approaching unhealthy levels in some places, stifling productivity growth, helping businesses delay the search for more sustainable solutions to labor shortages.

00:43:48.000 So again, Joe Biden has made this entire problem.

00:43:50.000 And as we continue, we're gonna talk about the fact that he never even took a call from his border chief for like three years.

00:43:57.000 We'll get to that momentarily.

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00:44:40.000 Okay, meanwhile.

00:44:41.000 So, the Biden administration is trying to make the claim that they actually are not at fault for what's going on at the border, but they have a rather large problem with that.

00:44:49.000 That, of course, is that they are clearly responsible for what is happening at the border.

00:44:52.000 So, former Border Patrol Chief Raul Ortiz was on 60 Minutes.

00:44:55.000 This is under Joe Biden.

00:44:56.000 He was the Border Patrol Chief.

00:44:57.000 He says he never talked to Joe Biden.

00:45:00.000 Yeah, this might be the fault of the Biden administration.

00:45:04.000 In our interview, Ortiz criticized Governor Abbott for not cooperating with the Border Patrol and playing politics with immigration.

00:45:12.000 But he also expressed frustration with President Biden.

00:45:16.000 I've never had one conversation with the president or the vice president for that matter.

00:45:21.000 And so I was the chief of the Border Patrol.

00:45:23.000 I commanded 21,000 people.

00:45:25.000 That's a problem.

00:45:27.000 Yes, yes it is.

00:45:29.000 How much of a problem is this for the Biden administration?

00:45:31.000 Well, the attack ads have not even started.

00:45:32.000 This is gonna be a super ugly election cycle.

00:45:34.000 Everyone is.

00:45:34.000 This one's gonna be particularly ugly, especially because you can't get anybody to like your candidate.

00:45:39.000 People who love Trump, love Trump.

00:45:40.000 Everybody else, meh.

00:45:42.000 People who love Biden don't exist.

00:45:44.000 So that means that this election is going to be about tearing down the opposition, as it usually is.

00:45:48.000 And this is a target-rich environment for the Trump campaign.

00:45:52.000 Because Joe Biden, certainly on immigration, you can clearly identify victims of Joe Biden's immigration policy.

00:45:59.000 One of those victims is Lakin Riley.

00:46:02.000 Lakin Riley, of course, was murdered just last week at University of Georgia.

00:46:07.000 And the response of the local mayor was to claim that this was the fault of Donald Trump.

00:46:15.000 She was murdered on February 22nd, 2024.

00:46:18.000 She was jogging, and her body was found near a lake of a wooded area.

00:46:23.000 Her death was caused by blunt force trauma.

00:46:25.000 The person arrested was, of course, an illegal immigrant.

00:46:29.000 Alejandro Mayorkas was asked directly about this.

00:46:31.000 Look at the way that he deals with this.

00:46:33.000 This is a disaster for the Biden administration.

00:46:37.000 A 22-year-old nursing student, I know you've been following this, Lakin Riley, in the state of Georgia, was murdered, allegedly, by an undocumented Venezuelan migrant.

00:46:47.000 The suspect had been detained by Porter Patrol upon crossing, released with temporary permission to stay in the country.

00:46:53.000 He then went on, allegedly, to commit crimes twice.

00:46:58.000 Once in New York for driving a scooter without a license, and once in connection with a shoplifting case in Georgia.

00:47:05.000 Did those states and their law enforcement communicate to the federal government that this had happened?

00:47:12.000 Should this man have been deported?

00:47:14.000 Um, a few thoughts.

00:47:16.000 First, Margaret, first and foremost, an absolute tragedy, and our hearts break for and our prayers are with the family, number one.

00:47:25.000 Number two, and importantly, as a prosecutor, having prosecuted violent crime and other crimes for 12 years, one individual is responsible for the murder, and that is the murderer.

00:47:37.000 And we work very closely with state and local law enforcement to ensure that individuals who pose a threat to public safety are indeed our highest priority for detention and removal.

00:47:50.000 Okay, there's only one problem with that, which of course it's not true.

00:47:53.000 Not true.

00:47:53.000 The person shouldn't have been in the country in the first place.

00:47:56.000 Sanctuary City policies all over the United States have allowed career criminals to stay in play.

00:48:01.000 This administration has been incredibly soft on crime.

00:48:05.000 And so they've got a real problem on their hands.

00:48:08.000 America's also suggested that executive orders aren't going to solve anything, which of course is not true, because it is Joe Biden's executive orders upon coming into office that opened up the border wide.

00:48:18.000 Given that, CNN is reporting last week that the administration is considering executive action that would block migrants claiming asylum if they illegally cross into the United States.

00:48:29.000 Can you tell us exactly what's on the table?

00:48:32.000 Dana, we consider options at all times.

00:48:36.000 That's the responsibility of good government.

00:48:39.000 But an administrative action is no substitute for an enduring solution.

00:48:43.000 When we take administrative actions, as we have done a number of times, we are challenged in court.

00:48:50.000 Legislation is the enduring solution.

00:48:53.000 And by the way, we cannot, through administrative action, Plus up the United States Border Patrol, Customs and Border Protection by 1,500 personnel like this legislation proposes.

00:49:05.000 We cannot, through administrative action, add 4,300 asylum officers so that we can work through the backlog and turn the system into an efficient and well-working one, which it hasn't been for more than three decades.

00:49:21.000 Um, well, you know what you could do?

00:49:23.000 You could put back in place Donald Trump's Remain in Mexico policy in which everybody who applies for asylum has to not be entered into the United States and they remain in Mexico to await their asylum determination, which would stop the vast onslaught on the border.

00:49:36.000 And then you could also redefine the interpretation of asylum law such that you actually have to show that you deserve asylum to be let into the country, not merely say things like, I fear to go back to my home country.

00:49:47.000 That is not enough.

00:49:49.000 And meanwhile, but the Democrats won't let go of this.

00:49:51.000 They won't let go of this.

00:49:51.000 Again, they've been captured by the radical base.

00:49:54.000 And so the smart move here, of course, would be to moderate on the border and they won't do it.

00:49:58.000 So Chris Murphy, who's a member of the wild left Connecticut Senator, who makes his appearance on the Sunday shows pretty much every week.

00:50:04.000 He says that we cannot change sanctuary city policies, which of course is a lie.

00:50:08.000 Of course you can change sanctuary city policies.

00:50:10.000 And of course you should.

00:50:11.000 It turns out that people go to sanctuary cities to receive the benefits and magic of the sanctuary city.

00:50:16.000 He's like, well, that's not a magnet.

00:50:17.000 Of course it is.

00:50:19.000 If I put up a sign in my donut store saying free donuts for everyone, I'm going to be out of donuts pretty damned quickly.

00:50:24.000 Here's Chris Murphy.

00:50:26.000 We saw New York Mayor Adams call for drastic changes to New York City's sanctuary policies.

00:50:33.000 As the whole sanctuary city movement, did it go too far?

00:50:36.000 Are we seeing a rollback of that?

00:50:38.000 Should there be a rollback of that?

00:50:40.000 Well, you know, we treat immigrants compassionately in Connecticut as well.

00:50:46.000 And, listen, I think that speaks to the best of this country.

00:50:49.000 Ultimately, the solution has to be on the border and in the countries that people are fleeing.

00:50:56.000 I don't think it's in the best interest of this country to push immigrants into the shadows once they are here. 1.00

00:51:04.000 So, to me, the focus has to be on the border.

00:51:07.000 Every day Joe Biden is giving aid and comfort to the foreign enemies of the United States.

00:51:10.000 is why Donald Trump is winning the border issue by 20 to 30 points in the polling data.

00:51:15.000 Here's Donald Trump over the weekend going after Joe Biden.

00:51:17.000 This message is going to tell it is going to continue to do body damage to the Biden

00:51:21.000 campaign.

00:51:23.000 Every day, Joe Biden is giving aid and comfort to the foreign enemies of the United States.

00:51:28.000 He's actually giving aid and they don't respect us anymore as a country.

00:51:33.000 Three years ago, we were more respected than ever before, and now they have no respect for us whatsoever.

00:51:41.000 And Putin yesterday is talking about nuclear!

00:51:43.000 Did you hear that, right?

00:51:44.000 Nuclear.

00:51:45.000 He wouldn't be talking about nuclear if I were here.

00:51:48.000 He wouldn't be talking about it.

00:51:50.000 By the way, again, dirty little secret here is Donald Trump is outflanking Joe Biden on the right with regards to Vladimir Putin.

00:51:56.000 The bottom line here is that Joe Biden is in serious trouble.

00:51:59.000 And he keeps, he is operating on a completely false theory here.

00:52:04.000 His theory, it is belied by every piece of poll data, is that the biggest problem he has is base turnout.

00:52:09.000 That is not correct.

00:52:10.000 The biggest problem that he has that independents and moderates are abandoning him in droves.

00:52:14.000 You want to take a look at how we know this?

00:52:16.000 John Fetterman, for example, is the senator in Pennsylvania.

00:52:19.000 John Fetterman's approval rating is 13 points above water.

00:52:21.000 He's a very popular senator from Pennsylvania.

00:52:24.000 He has taken the most pro-Israel position of pretty much anybody in the United States Senate.

00:52:28.000 Joe Biden is underwater in Pennsylvania.

00:52:30.000 He could easily lose the state.

00:52:31.000 He's running at best dead even with Donald Trump in the state of Pennsylvania.

00:52:36.000 It turns out that Americans don't really like it very much when, say, you appease terrorists.

00:52:39.000 Your base may, but it turns out that most Americans, including independents, do not.

00:52:43.000 Okay, so the Biden administration continues to send all the wrong signals in the Middle East again in an attempt desperately to win Dearborn, Michigan, and it ain't going to help.

00:52:51.000 There are not enough votes in Dearborn, Michigan to make up for the fact that he's losing the white working class in states like Michigan.

00:52:58.000 It's why Joe Biden is in trouble.

00:52:59.000 But again, the Democrats have been totally captured by the editorial board at the New York Times.

00:53:03.000 The editorial board of the New York Times got captured by the woke interns.

00:53:05.000 And then they in turn have captured the Biden administration, who seems to believe that if they just repeat January 6th on broader and louder volume, that magically they're going to win this election.

00:53:15.000 And so they are just catering to the Hamasniks in Dearborn, Michigan. 0.97

00:53:18.000 So, over the weekend, for example, Kamala Harris, the Vice President of the United States, suggested there needed to be an immediate ceasefire in Gaza.

00:53:24.000 Now, the White House immediately tried to walk this back a little bit.

00:53:27.000 They tried to say what she means, that Hamas should agree to a ceasefire, because it turns out, awkwardly, over the weekend, Israel agreed to many of the preconditions for a ceasefire and Hamas turned it down.

00:53:35.000 The reason Hamas turned down a ceasefire is because they believe that the West is going to force Israel to stop without Hamas giving up hostages, without Hamas going into exile, with Hamas retaining control in the Gaza Strip, with the possibility that Hamas even gains control of the West Bank.

00:53:48.000 Hamas may not be wrong considering the pathetic leftism of our current crop of Western leadership. 0.98

00:53:53.000 But here is Kamala Harris making a fool of herself on this issue just yesterday. 1.00

00:54:00.000 The immense scale of suffering in Gaza.

00:54:05.000 There must be an immediate ceasefire.

00:54:11.000 For at least the next six weeks.

00:54:13.000 This is what is currently on the table.

00:54:18.000 This will get the hostages out and get a significant amount of aid in.

00:54:24.000 Okay, there's only one problem.

00:54:26.000 Hamas rejected that deal.

00:54:28.000 So what is she actually saying?

00:54:29.000 So the White House tried to say that what she was saying was Hamas needs to accept the ceasefire.

00:54:32.000 But you can hear the crowd.

00:54:33.000 They don't think that's what Kamala Harris means. 0.97

00:54:35.000 And Hamas knows that the more this administration does PR for a ceasefire, the more it helps Hamas.

00:54:41.000 They know this. 0.96

00:54:42.000 Chris Murphy, the dullard from Connecticut, he's doing the same thing. 0.86

00:54:45.000 Here he was suggesting that Biden has to use all his leverage to get to a long-term ceasefire. 0.92

00:54:49.000 Leverage on whom?

00:54:51.000 On whom?

00:54:53.000 I mean, it can't be leverage on Hamas because Hamas leverage doesn't apply. 0.98

00:54:57.000 Israel's bombing them forward into the Stone Age and killing all their members. 0.97

00:55:01.000 And they're still not giving up power.

00:55:02.000 So what exactly would the leverage be other than presumably some sort of carrot from the Israelis that leaves Hamas in power? 0.89

00:55:10.000 What exactly is he advocating here? 0.99

00:55:12.000 The magic of idiotic diplomacy is that it lies in vagary. 1.00

00:55:16.000 That's the magic of idiotic. 1.00

00:55:17.000 If you just say words like ceasefire, then magically they manifest. 1.00

00:55:20.000 It's like Harry Potter.

00:55:21.000 If you say the right spell, Ceasefire, but I wrote, if you say that sort of stuff, then

00:55:26.000 magically peace breaks out.

00:55:27.000 It's nonsense. 0.96

00:55:28.000 Here's Chris Murphy making a fool of himself as per usual arrangement. 0.96

00:55:30.000 OK, I want to turn to what we saw in Michigan, where over 100000 Democrats went to the polls 0.77

00:55:36.000 and voted noncommitted.

00:55:39.000 Obviously, a protest vote to the president's handling of the situation in Gaza.

00:55:44.000 How concerned as a political matter should should Democrats be?

00:55:49.000 I don't think we should be concerned about this as a political matter, because this is

00:55:53.000 such a critical issue.

00:55:55.000 Issue relative to America's national security and the security of the Middle East.

00:55:59.000 I would hope that the president doesn't make decisions about what to do in Gaza or the Middle East based upon how the votes line up.

00:56:07.000 Listen, I think it is time for the president to use all the leverage that he has to get a long-term ceasefire.

00:56:14.000 I think if that ceasefire doesn't come, it's in Israel's interest for them to pause military activity to solve the humanitarian crisis.

00:56:21.000 But to the extent the president is using additional leverage on Israel, he should do that for national security reasons, not for political reasons.

00:56:29.000 These issues are too important to be dictated by the polls.

00:56:32.000 Except that they are being dictated by the polls.

00:56:34.000 Because, again, Joe Biden caved rhetorically on a lot of this stuff.

00:56:38.000 The Democratic Party then pushed way to the left, and now he is following, as he always does, the center of the Democratic Party.

00:56:43.000 According to this brand new Wall Street Journal poll, 16% of Republicans only say that Israel has gone too far in responding to Hamas.

00:56:49.000 70% of Democrats do. 70%.

00:56:54.000 40% of Democrats under the age of 40 said the United States was doing too much to help Israelis, compared with 33% of Democrats aged 40 and older.

00:57:01.000 The same poll shows, by the way, that overall 57% of the American people believe that the United States is giving about the right amount or too little support to the Israelis.

00:57:11.000 Only 30% think that too much support is being given to the Israelis.

00:57:16.000 And that overall, Some 43% of Americans believe that Israel has either been about right or not gone far enough.

00:57:24.000 So a plurality actually believe the opposite.

00:57:26.000 But Democrats are on the wrong side of the American public on this, and they are attempting to flip the American public on this, even as Hamas exacerbates the problem. 0.74

00:57:33.000 Hamas is stealing aid.

00:57:35.000 So they have the help of the media, Hamas, because the media and Hamas work hand-in-glove. 0.86

00:57:39.000 In fact, when it comes to the coverage of the Gaza Strip, Hamas and the media are one in the same.

00:57:42.000 Many members of the media are Hamas fellow travelers working hand-in-glove with Hamas.

00:57:47.000 And so we've heard this vast bevy of stories recently about human rights abuses with regard to the provision

00:57:54.000 of aid in the Gaza Strip.

00:57:55.000 The big problem is there is no one to provide the aid in the Gaza Strip because Hamas won't surrender.

00:57:59.000 Hamas is hijacking the aid.

00:58:00.000 The people aren't getting the aid, which means that Israel has to hire third-party drivers

00:58:04.000 or Egypt and Qatar do.

00:58:06.000 Those third-party drivers are very often being hijacked, harmed by members of the Hamas contingent, 0.78

00:58:12.000 as well as the Gazan population.

00:58:15.000 The Israelis have hundreds of trucks stacked up at the border and there is no one to take 0.97

00:58:20.000 There is no one who is willing to drive them in and distribute the aid because it's a bleep show over there because Hamas won't surrender. 0.61

00:58:25.000 By the way, again, all of this ends the minute that Hamas surrenders.

00:58:29.000 This is being pointed out by the spokesperson for the IDF, Elon Levy.

00:58:34.000 Here he was.

00:58:36.000 As for the specific question of humanitarian aid, we want to see as much humanitarian aid get into Gaza to the people who need it, while making sure that Hamas cannot steal it.

00:58:46.000 Now that's why we've done, on the one hand, expanded capacity at the Israeli crossings.

00:58:50.000 There is now more than double the excess capacity at Israel's crossings to get more aid in.

00:58:56.000 As we speak right now, There are 300 trucks worth of humanitarian aid sitting on the Gazan side of the Kerem Shalom crossing, waiting for the UN to pick it up and distribute it.

00:59:08.000 The aid is getting in.

00:59:09.000 The problem is that the UN is struggling to distribute that aid at the pace that Israel is facilitating its entry into Gaza.

00:59:16.000 All of that is true.

00:59:17.000 But because there's no one to actually distribute the aid, the bottom line is that the West, the United States, places that are in the Arab world, are working with the Israeli government to airdrop aid into the middle.

00:59:28.000 That is not because Israel won't distribute the aid.

00:59:30.000 It's because there is no one to distribute the aid because Hamas will not surrender and they are trying to kill people and hijack the aid.

00:59:37.000 Meanwhile, the media are blaming Israel for all of that.

00:59:39.000 At the same exact time all this is happening, the Houthis actually sank another ship.

00:59:42.000 This is the first ship that the Houthis have successfully sunk at this point.

00:59:48.000 According to The Washington Post.

00:59:52.000 A cargo ship sank in the Red Sea after an attack by Houthi militants, taking about 21,000 metric tons of fertilizer down with it, posing a significant environmental risk to one of the world's busiest waterways and the home of many coral reefs.

01:00:02.000 The Rubimar was struck by an anti-ballistic missile fired by the Houthis on February 18th.

01:00:06.000 It sank early on Saturday after slowly taking on water since the attack.

01:00:11.000 It will cause an environmental disaster, apparently.

01:00:15.000 The Houthi attack last month caused an 18-mile oil slick and forced the crew to abandon the ship.

01:00:20.000 Again, the West has been unable to curb the lashings out of a primitive terrorist group. 1.00

01:00:31.000 A terrorist group that, again, the Biden administration delisted as a terrorist group early on in their administration.

01:00:35.000 Meanwhile, antisemitism all over the world continues to percolate.

01:00:40.000 The Washington Free Beacon reports that when Israeli lawyer Ron Bar-Yoshafat was speaking at University of California, Berkeley, his speech was canceled after violent protesters choked a female student attendee, spit in another attendee's face, broke into the auditorium, where Bar-Yoshafat waited on stage.

01:00:56.000 The administration had no apology to offer.

01:00:58.000 Meanwhile...

01:00:59.000 Over the course of the last week, there was a shooting of a Jewish doctor in San Diego by a Muslim disgruntled ex-patient.

01:01:06.000 No motive has yet been offered in that particular shooting.

01:01:08.000 An Orthodox Jewish man was stabbed in Switzerland by somebody shouting the usual and shouting anti-Semitic slogans.

01:01:18.000 This sort of stuff continues.

01:01:19.000 And yet, the pressure on the Democratic side is for them to cave to Hamas.

01:01:24.000 Is that going to make them more popular with the American people?

01:01:27.000 The American people don't like Hamas very much.

01:01:30.000 Do they really think that it's going to buy them a ton of goodwill and votes to pressure Israel into stopping early and leaving Hamas in place? 0.81

01:01:37.000 Democrats also have another force coming down the railway tracks for them that's going to be very ugly.

01:01:42.000 And that force is the backlash that is coming from these Trump lawsuits.

01:01:46.000 So, Letitia James, and she is the person who's been going after Donald Trump in New York.

01:01:51.000 She literally came into office pledging to get Donald Trump, which is not exactly how law enforcement is supposed to work.

01:01:56.000 Typically, you identify the crime and then you prosecute the criminal.

01:01:59.000 You don't identify the person and then seek to uncover the crime.

01:02:02.000 But Letitia James did the latter. 0.87

01:02:05.000 And it turns out that most people, I don't think, are gonna like the fact that she went after Donald Trump on a bunch of civil charges that are absolutely absurd.

01:02:12.000 As the Wall Street Journal editorial page points out, Because Letitia James could not demonstrate that banks relied on Trump's misrepresentation, she rested her case on a sweeping state civil fraud law known as Executive Law Section 6312.

01:02:24.000 That statute substantially mirrors federal criminal fraud statutes, but typically, federal courts require proof of property loss or damage to prove fraud.

01:02:32.000 She proved neither.

01:02:34.000 So Judge Engeron, in that particular case, along with Letitia James, have now fined him $400 million.

01:02:41.000 Now James is tweeting out that Trump owes an additional $114,000 in interest to the state every day that he doesn't cough up the money.

01:02:47.000 Is that going to make Trump less popular or more popular?

01:02:50.000 Meanwhile, Fannie Willis and her ridiculous case against Donald Trump in Georgia, this RICO case that is a legal joke.

01:02:57.000 Well, Fannie Willis, it turns out, again, was stooping the guy she hired to be one of her cheap prosecutors and then moving money around in particularly corrupt ways. 1.00

01:03:05.000 Is that case going to somehow redound against Trump?

01:03:10.000 Here, for example, is a lawyer for one of the other defendants in Fannie Willis' prosecution on January 6th, going after Fannie Willis and pointing out her corruption.

01:03:19.000 The general rule on conflicts of interest for lawyers is in Rule of Professional Conduct 1.7.

01:03:24.000 And we all know, it's all drummed into us, that we cannot have a conflict of interest.

01:03:29.000 And if we do, we have to withdraw or we will be disqualified.

01:03:33.000 The basic idea is that a conflict of interest impairs the lawyer's independent professional judgment.

01:03:40.000 That's the test of a conflict and whether it can be waived and whether it's disqualifying.

01:03:45.000 And that conflict is not just financial.

01:03:49.000 It can be any conflict that impairs your independent professional judgment.

01:03:53.000 And you see that in McLaughlin v. Payne.

01:03:55.000 There are six different actual conflicts of interest in this case, any one of which warrants disqualification, but collectively, practically compelling.

01:04:03.000 First, the financial conflict that's already been covered.

01:04:06.000 Second, the personal ambition, political ambition.

01:04:11.000 Third, there's a dovetailed or complementary pattern of deceit and concealment of the relationship and the money.

01:04:18.000 Fourth, the speech at the church.

01:04:21.000 Fifth, the motion for protective order that the DA filed in Mr. Wade's divorce case.

01:04:27.000 Sixth, the way the state has conducted the defense of this motion to disqualify especially the hearing.

01:04:33.000 Okay, Fannie Willis, if she's not disqualified, it doesn't matter because the case is still not going to redound against Donald Trump. 0.97

01:04:39.000 The Democrats and their attempt to get Donald Trump by throwing everything against the wall have made themselves look foolish. 0.83

01:04:44.000 It is not going to hurt Donald Trump in the end. 0.94

01:04:46.000 Donald Trump, for his part, he added his commentary on Fannie Willis, and again, like, this is funny.

01:04:53.000 He worked with Fannie, even though it's spelled Fannie.

01:04:57.000 F-A-N-N-I, Fannie. 1.00

01:05:01.000 How about that one?

01:05:02.000 How about that one with her lover?

01:05:05.000 Nathan Wade, her lover.

01:05:11.000 Let's go get Trump.

01:05:13.000 Because if they go after Trump, they can pay him more money.

01:05:17.000 And then she can take beautiful trips on the sea, beautiful trips to foreign islands.

01:05:22.000 Her and her lover, they have such a good time.

01:05:25.000 The guy got paid almost a million dollars and he never did it before.

01:05:31.000 But he did the other thing before that he did with Fannie.

01:05:35.000 He did plenty of that.

01:05:38.000 That's what he's good at, I guess.

01:05:41.000 Yeah, well, the Fannie Willis case, I don't think that's going to redound to a Democrat's benefit.

01:05:45.000 Already coming up, we'll get into some cultural commentary.

01:05:48.000 So Sam Smith, who was once just a normal gay dude, has turned into a public freak show. 0.91

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The Ben Shapiro Show - March 04, 2024

UNANIMOUS Supreme Court Puts Trump Back On The Ballot

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