The Ben Shapiro Show - Unspoken Truths on Trans Can Now Be Said

00:00:00.000 A major liberal journalist acknowledges that actually the reason he didn't say the truth about trans was in fact social pressure.

00:00:06.000 Also, Democrats are now claiming that there's no free speech crisis in the UK, but there is in the United States, and the president of the United States doing something really, really smart about crime in New Orleans.

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00:00:49.000 Alrighty, folks, so we've known for a very long time in this country, for years and years and years that if you said the wrong thing about the trans issue, you could be canceled.

00:00:57.000 But now, finally, there's some people who are heretofore on the left who are acknowledging that that is in fact the case.

00:01:04.000 And this is just one of the beautiful flowering fruit of the Trump administration is that people are free to say things they didn't feel free to say before.

00:01:12.000 And you can easily read this kind of newfound enthusiasm for free speech as cynical.

00:01:19.000 The winds have changed, people are now deciding that they want to say what is more popular, or you can read it as repentance.

00:01:25.000 The reason this comes up today is because Malcolm Gladwell, who of course is very famous best-selling author, who's been a guest on the program before, I've been a guest on his program as well.

00:01:34.000 He came out yesterday, and he explained his amended point of view on transgender athletes, meaning men playing against women in sport.

00:01:43.000 And he was talking specifically about a 2022 appearance at the MIT Sloan Sports Analytics Conference, where he moderated a panel discussion in which they talked about the path forward for the inclusion of trans athletes in sports, meaning men playing with the women.

00:01:57.000 And here's what Malcolm Gladwell had to say yesterday.

00:02:01.000 The reason I'm ashamed of my performance of that panel is because I share your position a hundred percent.

00:02:08.000 And I was count.

00:02:09.000 The idea of saying anything on this issue, I was in a...

00:02:15.000 I believe in retrospect, in a dishonest way, I was I was objective in a dishonest.

00:02:22.000 And of course, that is right.

00:02:24.000 That is honest.

00:02:25.000 There are many people who were cowed.

00:02:27.000 There were many people who were so scared of saying what was obviously true that they didn't say it.

00:02:32.000 And this happens all the time in our politics.

00:02:34.000 It happened in Great Britain during the Rotherham Group scandal, when members of the media specifically decided not to cover the fact that there were Muslim gangs, Muslim men, taxi drivers largely, who are underage white girls for then passing them around.

00:02:50.000 And people in the media knew about this, and they decided not to say anything because to say something would have resulted in censure, in public opprium, in people in power suggesting that you were somehow in league with the right, and in league with the right for a very long time in this country, in the UK as well, has become sort of the code for must be thrown out of public life.

00:03:11.000 Now, listen, I I don't believe that every view is equivalent.

00:03:15.000 I'm not a moral relativist.

00:03:17.000 I don't believe that we should take every view with equal seriousness.

00:03:20.000 I do think that there is an overton window, meaning the arena of valuable discussion.

00:03:25.000 The problem is that the left shut the overton window so much that if you just disagreed with the left on very fundamentally true principles like men are not women, they would throw you out.

00:03:35.000 And so the question becomes for many members of the right you know, what do you do when Malcolm Gladwell says something like this?

00:03:40.000 What do you do?

00:03:42.000 And the answer is that you probably should offer forgiveness.

00:03:47.000 You probably should offer some form of generosity.

00:03:51.000 Michael Schellenberger wrote on X, like him or not, Malcolm Gladwell is one of the most influential and financially successful journalists of the last 30 years.

00:03:58.000 For him to say he was too scared to say men don't belong in girls' sports shows both how totalitarian the mainstream media is and how chicken bleep MSM journalists are.

00:04:07.000 Now, again, I think that it isn't really about being cowardly, although you can make the argument.

00:04:13.000 I think what it really is more about is the insane echo chamber that has been created in so many of our elite spaces.

00:04:22.000 Because the reality is if you said what Malcolm Gladwell now says he would say, in 85% of the country, you'd be totally fine.

00:04:28.000 In fact, it is the mainstream view.

00:04:30.000 But if you are in the elite circles in which Malcolm Gladwell traveled, you would, in fact, lose your social standing.

00:04:37.000 You may have lost your job.

00:04:39.000 Places would stop reviewing your books.

00:04:41.000 There was real risk attached.

00:04:43.000 And President Trump has opened that up wide.

00:04:45.000 And that is a credit, of course, to President Trump.

00:04:46.000 It's also a credit to the American people.

00:04:48.000 It's a credit to the American people because the American people made the decision they didn't want to do this anymore, that they were done with all of this.

00:04:57.000 Well, you know where they're not done with all of this, as I mentioned, is in Britain.

00:05:00.000 So yesterday there was a free speech hearing on the Hill.

00:05:04.000 Nigel Farage appeared.

00:05:05.000 He, of course, is the head of the reform party in the UK.

00:05:09.000 And this hearing, which was designed to expose the predations of the UK and much of Europe with regard to free speech, held before the House Judiciary Committee steered into what's going on in the UK.

00:05:22.000 And here is Nigel Farage testifying.

00:05:26.000 I'm delighted to reacquaint with the charming Mr. Raskin.

00:05:31.000 That was delightful testimony you gave me earlier on with your speech.

00:05:36.000 But hey, that's fine.

00:05:38.000 You can say what you like.

00:05:39.000 I don't care.

00:05:40.000 Because that's what free speech is.

00:05:41.000 And in a sense, this has all been going wrong now for a couple of decades.

00:05:45.000 We've kind of forgotten the Voltaireian principles that we'll fight and defend to the death your right to say something that we fundamentally disagree with.

00:05:55.000 Okay, and that, of course, used to be the way that the West did things. 0.89

00:05:59.000 But as we've been finding, that's not the case in the UK.

00:06:02.000 Where there's actually enshrined in government policy, and I think Americans really do need to understand that, yes, there's been cancel culture and cancel culture when inappropriately applied, when applied to a range of mainstream views, is ridiculous and bad.

00:06:14.000 But that is a difference in kind from what is happening in the UK, where the government is literally arresting people for bad tweets.

00:06:20.000 That happens also in Canada, obviously.

00:06:23.000 And the thing that prevents that from happening in the United States is not our magical adherence to First Amendment principles as a people.

00:06:30.000 Unfortunately, there are many, many people in the United States who, if they had the opportunity, would in fact vote to curb free speech.

00:06:36.000 If you look at the polls of young people, young people overwhelmingly believe that hate speech should trump free speech, so to speak.

00:06:43.000 By all the polls, young people believe that there should in fact be legal limits on the kinds of speech that you should be allowed to say out loud.

00:06:50.000 The thing that protects us is the structures of the Constitution.

00:06:54.000 It is the fact that the Constitution bars Congress from doing this thing, and that the Supreme Court has made very clear it stands for decades that free speech must be protected at the highest possible level.

00:07:08.000 This is why it's kind of ridiculous when you hear people like Jamie Raskin arguing that actually there is no free speech crisis in the UK.

00:07:14.000 The real free speech crisis is happening thanks to Donald Trump, according to Jamie Raskin, the congressman from Maryland.

00:07:21.000 There is a free speech crisis in America today, but there's no free speech crisis in Britain.

00:07:26.000 UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer has not shut down GB News where Mr. Farage has his own show just because Mr. Farage has used his airtime to call for banning peaceful protests that he disagrees with.

00:07:39.000 No one has stopped him from going on Russian TV 17 times and saying also and repeating that the one world political leader he most admired was Vladimir Putin, even though Vladimir Putin is a war criminal.

00:07:54.000 Okay, well, what what exactly is the contradiction between what Raskin is saying and the reality, which is that people are in fact being arrested for tweets in the UK?

00:08:02.000 And when Raskin says that the free speech crisis is happening in America because he doesn't like President Trump or the stuff President Trump says, or the lawsuits that President Trump files, which are then adjudicated in court and settled sometimes.

00:08:14.000 Again, a difference in kind.

00:08:16.000 A difference in kind.

00:08:17.000 But the left in the United States has sort of reversed reality.

00:08:21.000 Somehow, the UK is a free speech bastion, and somehow the real authoritarianism is happening right here in the United States.

00:08:29.000 So Jimmy Raskin also made the argument that Donald Trump firing bureaucrats makes him like Stalin.

00:08:35.000 Honorable civil servants are being fired because they won't be the political hacks Trump demands that they be.

00:08:42.000 When private comments made by federal employees are scrutinized for anti-Trump bias, and they can lose their jobs because of it, then we've entered the realm not just of Vladimir Putin, but of Joseph Stalin.

00:08:54.000 Okay, Joseph Stalin.

00:08:56.000 I mean, is anyone getting executed precisely?

00:08:58.000 I mean, there is the idea That members of the executive branch should work for, you know, the head of the executive branch.

00:09:05.000 But this is the game that the left in the United States is playing.

00:09:08.000 Crackdowns on free speech abroad are not happening.

00:09:10.000 The real crackdowns on free speech are not, in fact, crackdowns on free speech at all inside the United States.

00:09:16.000 Hardy coming up, China, Russia getting very aggressive, plus very weird hot mic moment between some of the world's worst dictators.

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00:11:35.000 Now, there is a sort of bizarre gray area that exists in American law.

00:11:38.000 That bizarre gray area exists in the realm of anti-discrimination law.

00:11:42.000 And we should actually discuss this because it's kind of important.

00:11:45.000 So yesterday, there's a ruling that came out from a federal court striking down the ability of the Trump administration to reject 2.2 billion dollars in research funding from Harvard University.

00:11:56.000 The ruling was by a U.S. district judge named Allison Burroughs of Massachusetts.

00:12:00.000 And it came, according to the Wall Street Journal, as Harvard and the Trump administration have been in talks to resolve months of the government's pressure tactics over what it calls anti-Semitism and diversity-related concerns.

00:12:10.000 President Trump said last month he wants no less than $500 million from Harvard.

00:12:15.000 The White House said, quote, to any fair-minded observer, it is clear that Harvard University failed to protect their students from harassment and allowed discrimination to plague their campus for years.

00:12:23.000 We are confident we will ultimately prevail in our efforts to hold Harvard accountable.

00:12:27.000 In her ruling, the judge concluded that Harvard was wrong to tolerate hateful behavior for as long as it did.

00:12:33.000 But argued that the federal government, quote, used anti-Semitism as a smokescreen for a targeted, ideologically motivated assault on this country's premier universities, and then argued that the government's actions violated the First Amendment.

00:12:45.000 Okay, so let's talk about what's happening here.

00:12:47.000 There is a principled case to be made, a principled libertarian case to be made, that anti-discrimination law, when applied to private universities, for example, is violative of free speech principles.

00:12:58.000 That things that you are allowed to say without being prosecuted are also things that should be allowed to be said at businesses without that business being prosecuted under, say, the Civil Rights Act.

00:13:10.000 There's a principled First Amendment libertarian take that says that this part of the civil rights revolution went too far and impinged on freedom of speech principles.

00:13:18.000 That is not the argument this judge is making.

00:13:20.000 The argument this judge is making is that certain types of discrimination are basically okay.

00:13:25.000 That anti-Jewish discrimination at these various universities, that's okay. 1.00

00:13:29.000 If it were anti-black discrimination, then the Trump administration could remove funding.

00:13:33.000 But if it's anti-Jewish administrat uh discrimination, then the Trump administration has no right to do that.

00:13:39.000 That is ridiculous, and it speaks again to the left's double standard when it comes to pretty much every aspect of American law, from free speech and cancel culture to anti-discrimination law, which is only supposed to apply to some, but not apply to others.

00:13:53.000 In her order, the judge stressed the importance of fighting anti-Semitism, but then caution quote, if speech can be curtailed in the name of the Jewish people today, then just as easily the speech of the Jews and anyone else can be curtailed when the political winds change direction.

00:14:05.000 Again, that is a principled libertarian argument she would not make if we were talking about anti-black discrimination on college campuses.

00:14:12.000 If you want to make the sort of reason magazine argument that anti-discrimination law runs afoul of First Amendment principles, I'm actually quite open to that argument.

00:14:20.000 If you are making a different argument, which is that only certain groups get protected by anti-discrimination law, that is a very, very different thing.

00:14:26.000 And it is that double standard, that very double standard the left is applying that makes people believe, I think correctly, that they don't actually care about any sort of consistent free speech principles, that they are not making any sort of argument that coheres.

00:14:40.000 And this is why the great fear is that if the left ever gained power for a significant period of time in this country and was able to take over the Supreme Court, that you would have serious restrictions on speech that look a lot more like what the UK is doing, not just the sort of informal social cancel culture stuff that we've been seeing in the United States.

00:14:58.000 Okay, meanwhile, on the foreign front, yesterday China held a massive military parade.

00:15:04.000 Obviously, this was designed as an intimidation tactic against President Trump.

00:15:07.000 I do not think it is going to work.

00:15:09.000 According to the Wall Street Journal, China flexed its growing military power and its deepening ties to Washington's adversaries with an extravagant parade that cast leader Xi Jinping as the standard bearer of a new global order.

00:15:20.000 The armed forces spectacle in Beijing on Wednesday, marking the 80th anniversary of China's victory in World War II, projected the vision of a great power that Xi wants to present to the world and a warning to the U.S. and Europe not to challenge it.

00:15:30.000 First of all, I should just note historically speaking, it was not the Communist Party of China that won the war against Japan.

00:15:36.000 It was Shanghai Shek who won the war against Japan.

00:15:38.000 Mao basically did nothing.

00:15:40.000 He sat up in the mountains, waited for Shanghai Shek to do the dirty work, and then came down from the mountains and took over the country and turned it into a communist bastion. 0.96

00:15:48.000 In any case, others who attended this kind of glorified spectacle included North Korean leader Kim Jong-un as well as Russia's Vladimir Putin.

00:15:57.000 Now, the weapons that were included in this particular march included what are called the weapons of the nuclear triad.

00:16:08.000 The nuclear triad, those are weapons that are land-based, submarine-based, and air-based.

00:16:15.000 And all those weapons were made available here.

00:16:17.000 So the goal obviously was to intimidate the United States to say that while the U.S. has certain defensive mechanisms, if China were to go to war with the United States, hell, they might nuke San Francisco or something.

00:16:27.000 According to the Wall Street Journal, she was flanked by leaders from 26 countries, including Iran, of course, of course.

00:16:32.000 He said in a speech, quote, the Chinese people have made major contributions in saving human civilization and safeguarding world peace with huge national sacrifices.

00:16:41.000 Uh I'm going to ask when.

00:16:46.000 I'm just going to ask when.

00:16:47.000 Again, the Chinese people may have done so during World War II against the Japanese, but not the Chinese government that is represented by the communists.

00:16:59.000 The great rejuvenation of the Chinese nation is unstoppable, said Xi.

00:17:03.000 And then again, they showed hypersonic, nuclear capable missiles and unmanned combat platforms that strengthen China's abilities to deter the United States and project power far beyond its borders.

00:17:13.000 Formations on parade included ground naval and aerial drones, strategic missiles, and a cyberspace combat force.

00:17:20.000 So part of this was domestically oriented.

00:17:22.000 It was intended to demonstrate to the Chinese people that despite the sort of wavering economic growth in China, serious demographic problems in China, massive debt bomb in China, that they still have the military capacity to challenge the United States.

00:17:38.000 It is also a signal to the United States in an attempt to get President Trump to back down from his tariff threats against China.

00:17:46.000 Well, Beijing is taking advantage of the tariff wars in order to achieve a broader appeal to neutral and third party countries.

00:17:54.000 This is what's been going on with China and India.

00:17:56.000 China's trying to make overtures to India, counting on alienation by the United States of India on the terror front in order to make overtures to India.

00:18:05.000 They're doing the same thing with South Korea.

00:18:07.000 They're doing the same thing with other countries in the region, Vietnam.

00:18:12.000 According to the Wall Street Journal, unlike past military parades held when China's economy was humming, the event comes as Beijing confronts serious challenges, including high youth unemployment, mounting debt levels, and a years long property bust.

00:18:26.000 Also, she has been purging his senior military commanders because he is afraid of the possibility that somebody tries to make a change over there.

00:18:34.000 Now, I think what this really says to the United States, and it should be a reminder, China is not nearly as strong as it seems to believe that it is or seems to be trying to show the world that it is. 0.54

00:18:46.000 Again, China has serious internal problems.

00:18:48.000 It doesn't mean that China isn't a serious geopolitical threat. 0.88

00:18:51.000 It does mean that if the power of the American free market and innovation is unlocked, if China is instead of engaged, boxed in, if we decide to build a ring of commerce around China, if we decide to protect allies like Taiwan and Japan and South Korea, and yes, India, from the predations of the Chinese, then China could find itself on the wrong side here. 0.64

00:19:15.000 And Russia is not going to bail them out because Russia does not have the capacity to do that.

00:19:18.000 Russia has nuclear weapons and gas, and that is it.

00:19:22.000 But I think the goal for Putin and G is to show a strong face in an attempt to get President Trump to broker some sort of friendly deal with Russia over Ukraine, and that drain on Russia's military might in time to save Vladimir Putin's regime, You know, back off the harsh economic measures that we've aimed at the Chinese. 0.57

00:19:45.000 please.

00:19:46.000 That seems to be the goal.

00:19:48.000 Well, Vladimir Putin, for his part, he says that Zelensky should now come to Moscow.

00:19:55.000 He is doing that simultaneously with launching 500 drones and missiles at Kyiv overnight, wrecking energy and civilian infrastructure.

00:20:03.000 Putin apparently claimed he never refused a meeting with Zelensky, which of course is not true.

00:20:07.000 Putin basically just let that proposal by President Trump die.

00:20:10.000 Putin told his state-owned outlet TASS, quote, if Zelensky is ready for a meeting, let him come to Moscow.

00:20:16.000 Of course, Zelensky isn't going to do that because he's afraid that Putin will, of course, kill him.

00:20:20.000 Ukrainian foreign minister Andri Sievha slammed Putin's proposal for Zelensky to willingly enter enemy territory as the war rages as unacceptable.

00:20:28.000 He says there are lots of places they could do this.

00:20:30.000 They're not doing it in Moscow.

00:20:32.000 Sabihas said, quote, there are serious proposals, and President Zelensky is ready for such a meeting at any point in time, but Putin continues to mess around.

00:20:39.000 And then he added only pressure can force Russia to finally get serious about the peace process.

00:20:43.000 And this is right.

00:20:44.000 Okay, this is where we should be taking a note from the Reagan playbook, truly.

00:20:49.000 Ronald Reagan understood, box in the Soviets, and then outcompete them. 0.82

00:20:54.000 That is the same exact same method we should be using with regard to China.

00:20:58.000 We can outcompete the Chinese. 1.00

00:20:59.000 We need to unleash the American economy, radical deregulation, lower taxes, ease of investment, lower tariffs, better trade relationships with our partners.

00:21:09.000 If you want to defeat China, these are the ways that you defeat China. 0.98

00:21:12.000 Meanwhile, I gotta say, the coalition of enemies that is allying against the United States is totally bizarrely Orwellian.

00:21:22.000 It's like something out of a Bond film.

00:21:24.000 Putin, Xi, and Kim were caught on a hot mic, actually, talking about living forever, which is just the most Orwellian crap I ever heard.

00:21:34.000 Xia is speaking Mandarin, he's a 70 years old.

00:21:36.000 And the translator says earlier, people rarely live to 70.

00:21:39.000 These days at 70, you're still a child, is what Putin said.

00:21:43.000 Okay.

00:21:51.000 It's inaudible what he's saying.

00:21:52.000 The translator is translating back to Xi says, with the development of biotechnology, organs can be transplanted, people can live younger and younger and even achieve immortality.

00:22:02.000 And then Xi said predictions are the century, there's a chance of also living to 150.

00:22:07.000 So here you have all of these relatively elderly dictators.

00:22:10.000 And Ken Jong Lou is relatively young, but Putin is in his 70s.

00:22:14.000 Xi Jinping is currently 72.

00:22:18.000 So these are aging dictators who are literally talking about how to basically get organ transplants they can live forever.

00:22:27.000 These are scary and spiritually devoid people, for sure.

00:22:32.000 And the attempt to somehow turn them into something else is bizarre.

00:22:36.000 The attempt by some to stand for Vladimir Putin is though Vladimir Putin is, you know, a soulful Christian who is deeply invested in biblical values.

00:22:46.000 By what evidence at all?

00:22:48.000 Like truly at all.

00:22:50.000 Vladimir Putin has gotten more Christians killed than any person on Earth in the modern era.

00:22:55.000 At least 200,000 Russians and probably 100,000 Ukrainians minimum.

00:22:59.000 And somehow he's the he's the great hero.

00:23:01.000 Okay, if that's what you believe, go for it, sure.

00:23:04.000 President Trump, for his part responded by saying that the X summit was beautiful, but you know, he he should have thanked the United States since it was really the U.S. ending the war against Japan that freed China.

00:23:13.000 I thought it was a beautiful ceremony.

00:23:15.000 I thought it was very, very impressive.

00:23:17.000 But I understood the reason they were doing it, and they were hoping I was watching and I was watching.

00:23:22.000 Uh my relationship with all of them is very good.

00:23:25.000 We're going to find out how good it is over the next week or two.

00:23:28.000 Uh I think that uh we helped China very much, as you know, when they talk about freedom.

00:23:36.000 And I don't believe that, and maybe I'm wrong, I hope I'm wrong, but I don't believe that uh America, that the United States was acknowledged for helping China to get to gain its freedom.

00:23:49.000 Uh but perhaps I was just a uh that was a sleight of hand.

00:23:54.000 I mean, I was very I was very surprised.

00:23:56.000 I watched the speech last night.

00:23:58.000 President Shi is a friend of mine, but I thought that the United States should have been mentioned last night during that speech because we helped China very, very much.

00:24:08.000 And so, again, he is not wrong about all this.

00:24:10.000 The question becomes what is the best strategy to confront China? 0.97

00:24:13.000 And that is going to require uh a fair bit of thought.

00:24:17.000 And meanwhile, the president has taken aggressive action against Venezuela's drug traffickers.

00:24:23.000 So, according to Marco Rubio, U.S. forces could have stopped the boat that officials say was carrying illegal drugs from Venezuela to the United States on Tuesday, but President Trump instead chose to destroy it, killing the 11 people on board to send a deterrent message to traffickers.

00:24:38.000 So we do have video of what it looked like when the United States basically nuked from orbit what looks like a speedboat with a bunch of cocaine on it.

00:24:48.000 You can see here's the boat.

00:24:49.000 That thing barely looks like you can take it fishing.

00:24:52.000 And um, soon it will no longer exist.

00:24:54.000 Yes, that is an expensive weapon that is blowing up the boat completely.

00:24:59.000 For some reason, there are people upset about this.

00:25:01.000 I'm not sure precisely why, I gotta be honest with you.

00:25:04.000 You know, killing Trendaraguas drug traffickers.

00:25:07.000 Uh, that seems like the world is net better off for that.

00:25:11.000 The president of the United States put out a statement.

00:25:13.000 He said, earlier this morning on my orders, U.S. military forces conducted a kinetic strike against positively identified Trendaragu narco terrorists in the Southcom area of responsibility.

00:25:23.000 TDA is a designated foreign terrorist organization operating under the control of Nicolas Maduro, responsible for mass murder, drug trafficking, sex trafficking, and acts of violence and terror across the United States and Western Hemisphere.

00:25:34.000 The strike occurred while the terrorists were at sea in international waters transporting illegal narcotics heading to the United States.

00:25:40.000 The strike resulted in 11 terrorists killed in action.

00:25:43.000 No U.S. forces were harmed in the strike.

00:25:45.000 Please let this serve as notice to anybody even thinking about bringing drugs into the United States of America.

00:25:49.000 Beware.

00:25:50.000 Thank you for your attention to this matter.

00:25:53.000 Apparently, according to Rubio, U.S. forces launched a precision strike on the vessel as it traveled through the Caribbean Sea.

00:25:58.000 When asked if they warned the crew, Rubio said that the vessel, like others carrying drugs, posed an immediate threat to the United States, and that we had the right to destroy it.

00:26:07.000 Rubio said the president has a right to eliminate immediate threats to the U.S. that this president is not a talker, he's a doer, and he's going to do it.

00:26:14.000 The White House spokeswoman Anna Kelly said in a statement, according to the Washington Post, that the strike was, quote, conducted against the operations of a designated terrorist organization and was taken in defense of vital U.S. national interests and in the collective self-defense of other nations.

00:26:30.000 So, again, I see zero problem with this.

00:26:34.000 Nicholas Maduro is very afraid the United States is going to topple his regime.

00:26:38.000 He has mobilized his entire military.

00:26:40.000 Basically, again, boxing him in and ensuring that the supply of drugs from which the Maduro regime profits cannot happen via the water.

00:26:49.000 Now that we have shut our southern border, it can't happen that way either.

00:26:52.000 It is cutting off a massive source of revenue to the Maduro regime.

00:26:57.000 So, yeah, again, it is strange to me that some People are seeming to seem upset with this.

00:27:02.000 But this is a pretty good way of deterring drug traffickers from attempting to smuggle via the water drugs that kill Americans into our country.

00:27:12.000 The Wall Street Journal Editorial Board points out that the attack is a break from the usual Coast Guard protocol of stopping suspected drug traffickers on the high seas, going aboard for search and seizure and making the rest for trial at a later date.

00:27:25.000 Venezuelan copos don't follow the Marcus of Queensbury rules.

00:27:28.000 The U.S. doesn't have to refrain from sending them a more convincing kinetic message.

00:27:34.000 In Venezuela, Trendaraguas and drug trafficking are tools of the dictatorship.

00:27:38.000 Elsewhere in the region, gangs overwhelm weak institutions, even in countries that do want to fight back.

00:27:46.000 And so this is a good way of boxing in Maduro, who Pete Hexeth called the kingpin of a drug narco state, not actually elected.

00:27:54.000 When asked if regime changes the goal, the Secretary of Defense deferred to Mr. Trump, but added, quote, We're prepared with every asset the American military has.

00:28:01.000 Now again, I do not believe the United States is about to engage in a full-scale war with Venezuela, but certainly boxing them in militarily is a solid way of allowing for people inside Venezuela to launch some sort of uprising should in fact they choose to do so.

00:28:17.000 Meanwhile, the Secretary of State pledged to foster security cooperation and respect Mexico's sovereignty and territory.

00:28:23.000 Rubio kicked off his visit to Mexico and Ecuador to allies in the Trump administration's war on drugs.

00:28:28.000 He met with the Mexican president Claudia Scheinbaum at the National Palace in Mexico City.

00:28:33.000 Rubio said we've reached a historical level of cooperation.

00:28:37.000 So, again, apparently, Mexican officials are hoping that better cooperation will forestall actual kinetic U.S. action on the Mexican side of the border.

00:28:47.000 Again, that is another excellent side effect of nuking that speedboat of drugs from orbit is the Mexican government says, well, we we don't want SEAL Team 6 deployed on Mexican soil, so maybe we should cooperate in fighting our own drug cartels.

00:29:04.000 So, you know, again, there are certain people, the usual suspects, like Kenneth Roth, formerly of the United Nations, who's just a trash human being, suggesting that Trump ordered a quote unquote summary execution.

00:29:17.000 But it was a wartime activity undertaken against a terrorist group.

00:29:21.000 Period.

00:29:22.000 This is, I think, why so many people voted for President Trump.

00:29:25.000 He is not doing the talking.

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00:31:46.000 Okay, meanwhile, Trump's enemies on both the Republican and the Democratic side of the aisle have decided that they are going to again revivify the Epstein case.

00:31:55.000 Now, we've talked about the Epstein case a lot on the show.

00:31:58.000 Like a lot, especially since the FBI DOJ announcement that there were no further prosecutions coming, that there was no foreign intelligence or domestic intelligence operation involved with Jeffrey Epstein, and that essentially there was no there when it came to a broader case to be made.

00:32:15.000 Well, the media and certain political actors have decided to keep this alive despite lack of evidence.

00:32:21.000 Yesterday, that resulted in a press conference held by Representative Thomas Massey of Kentucky and Democratic Representative Rokana of California.

00:32:29.000 They've been attempting to collect signatures from House lawmakers to force a vote compelling the DOJ to turn over its Epstein documents, saying that the document releases so far have been insufficient.

00:32:40.000 And the problem that the DOJ has, of course, is that they do not have a history of turning over, for example, grand jury documents to Congress unredacted.

00:32:47.000 Because there may be names that are mentioned because Jeffrey Epstein called people on the phone once, and they don't believe that it is in the interest of the DOJ or the American people to simply indict without trial a bunch of people who are never even alleged to have engaged in the kinds of activities people think there is in the quote unquote Epstein list that doesn't actually exist.

00:33:06.000 Well, this was paired, the this sort of Massey and Rokana publicity stunt.

00:33:10.000 This was paired with a with a presser that was held outside the Capitol building.

00:33:16.000 The presser outside the Capitol building was coordinated with civil rights attorney Gloria Allred.

00:33:21.000 So Gloria Allred is an ambulance chaser of all ambulance chasers. 1.00

00:33:25.000 She's almost immediately discrediting to her own clients in the same way that, say, Benjamin Crump is discrediting to his clientele.

00:33:33.000 Well, she is now coming forward, Gloria Alred is, with a bunch of alleged Epstein victims, to apparently tell us nothing.

00:33:42.000 So here's the thing.

00:33:43.000 If you have something to say, you probably should say it.

00:33:45.000 You probably should say it.

00:33:46.000 Seriously.

00:33:48.000 So some of the women were granted settlements and have gotten large-scale settlements from banks that were connected to Epstein, like JP Morgan, for example.

00:33:58.000 Some of the women who are alleging victim status were not minors when they were engaging with Epstein.

00:34:03.000 Some of them absolutely are minors.

00:34:05.000 And none of this, of course, is to downplay the tremendous evil of Jeffrey Epstein.

00:34:09.000 If ever anyone deserved not to be breathing the air that we all get to breathe, it is Jeffrey Epstein.

00:34:14.000 The world is a better place for his absence.

00:34:16.000 With that said, the question now is whether there's anything new that is coming out or whether this is just another grandstanding publicity stunt designed to put some sort of unspecified pressure on President Trump.

00:34:27.000 So, according to the Wall Street Journal, Epstein's victims told their story outside the Capitol on Wednesday morning in a press conference organized by Rokana and Thomas Massey, seeking to remind Congress of the nature of the disgrace financiers' crimes.

00:34:41.000 Again, the question I have is what exactly is the allegation?

00:34:45.000 What is Trump supposedly covering up here?

00:34:47.000 What is the thing?

00:34:49.000 So, first, the Epstein victims announced that they would be compiling a list.

00:34:52.000 And here's my question.

00:34:53.000 Why not just do it?

00:34:55.000 Seriously.

00:34:56.000 In any case, they decided they would hold the press conference to announce nothing, which is always suspicious to me.

00:35:00.000 When people hold a press conference to announce nothing, it doesn't suggest that there's a lot waiting behind the vault door.

00:35:06.000 Here are some of the Epstein victims talking about this.

00:35:10.000 And let me announce now.

00:35:13.000 Several of us Epstein survivors have been discussing creating our own list of names.

00:35:17.000 Thank you.

00:35:23.000 We know the names.

00:35:28.000 Many of us were abused by them.

00:35:31.000 Now together as survivors, we will confidentially compile the names.

00:35:35.000 We all know we're regularly in the Epstein world.

00:35:39.000 And it will be done by survivors and for survivors.

00:35:45.000 No one else is involved.

00:35:47.000 Stay tuned for more details on that.

00:35:51.000 Because history is washing.

00:35:53.000 And so are the women who will come after us.

00:35:56.000 That's right.

00:35:57.000 Thank you.

00:35:59.000 Another Epstein victim recalled going on a trip with Bill Clinton and says that Epstein bragged about President Trump, but didn't make an allegation that Clinton said her and also didn't make an allegation that Trump was involved in the first time.

00:36:14.000 My first trip to the Palm Beach residence.

00:36:16.000 Um I drove there from the airport with Tielan Maxwell, and they Jeffrey and Elen were always very boastful about their friends, their famous or powerful friends.

00:36:29.000 And his biggest brag forever was that he was very good friends with Donald Trump.

00:36:34.000 He had an eight by Tim framed picture of him on his desk with the two of them.

00:36:38.000 Like they were very close.

00:36:41.000 Now, okay, I mean that that that yes, we we knew that already.

00:36:45.000 I mean, there's literally a picture of Bill Clinton in a dress in Jeffrey Epstein's house.

00:36:49.000 So yeah, we we we knew all again.

00:36:51.000 What is the breaking news?

00:36:52.000 What is the thing that requires massive m explication and attention?

00:36:56.000 If there's something new, like let's do this thing.

00:36:59.000 Seriously.

00:37:00.000 The survivors also appeared on NBC News, where they admitted that they didn't actually see Trump ever do anything bad, which again, I think was the entire implication, particularly from Democrats, is the reason that that Trump isn't doing more Epstein talk is because there's something deep and dark and terrible inside the Epstein files about Trump personally, but no one has yet made that actual allegation.

00:37:22.000 I do have to ask, and I know uh and it's just something that I think we're compelled to at this moment with the attention on President Trump with these questions around a pardon.

00:37:30.000 Did anybody see or hear of the president himself doing anything inappropriate as it related to Jeffrey Epstein?

00:37:36.000 No.

00:37:38.000 Okay, so I mean, so what what's the allegation?

00:37:40.000 Well, one Epstein survivor says, you know, so what where's the cover-up?

00:37:44.000 Well, why why is there a cover-up?

00:37:46.000 So I ask you, President Trump and members of Congress.

00:37:51.000 Why do we continue to cover up?

00:37:55.000 Who are we covering for?

00:37:57.000 Okay, so I mean, if the allegation is that there is a cover-up and you are the victims, shouldn't you unmask it?

00:38:04.000 Truly, you have 27 victims stacked up right there.

00:38:06.000 Shouldn't they unmask it?

00:38:08.000 Well, the these were questions that Michael Tracy was asking.

00:38:11.000 He showed up to report on the situation, and he asked some pretty basic questions, particularly with regard to Virginia Geoffrey and Alan Zerschwitz, and he was immediately basically ejected by the people who are standing there for asking these basic questions.

00:38:25.000 Yeah.

00:38:26.000 Yeah.

00:38:26.000 So uh you represent Virginia Roberts from eventually had to rechant the allegations that she made against Alan Dershowitz.

00:38:34.000 Gilet Alan's question.

00:38:39.000 Next question.

00:38:39.000 Thank you.

00:38:41.000 What why is it that she should be able to do that? 1.00

00:38:42.000 Yeah, no, we're not answering the question.

00:38:44.000 Anyone else?

00:38:47.000 How did the victims feel about the interview that was given to Glenn Matters or trying to say something?

00:38:51.000 That's better.

00:38:53.000 Okay, ma'am.

00:38:54.000 I think that you had a question.

00:38:55.000 Okay, so just completely ignore a very, very basic question.

00:38:58.000 So you're literally standing in front of a of a sign that says Epstein Files Transparency Act, and you won't answer an incredibly basic question.

00:39:06.000 It doesn't speak to a desire for a ton of transparency, to be honest.

00:39:10.000 Michael Tracy also was outside this event and he confronted conspiracy theorist extraordinary Ian Carroll.

00:39:17.000 Uh and and said, Well, you know, you keep claiming a conspiracy.

00:39:20.000 Can you like detail what your what what exactly it's supposed to be?

00:39:24.000 Like where's your evidence on any of this?

00:39:30.000 I personally despise R. F. Jr.

00:39:33.000 I'm the last one to run away from anything that could possibly be critiqued by R. F. K. Jr.

00:39:38.000 He's one of my least favorite people probably on earth.

00:39:41.000 However, you know what I wouldn't do?

00:39:43.000 Well, you know what I wouldn't do?

00:39:44.000 I wouldn't make up fake blackmail stories about him.

00:39:48.000 Don't get out on social media, and then just ghost everyone when the story that I claim was imminent doesn't come out.

00:39:55.000 But you think then that's that's fine.

00:39:56.000 I mean, that's your whole journalistic report.

00:39:58.000 I mean, you consider yourself journalists well when you constru it in your way that this represents.

00:40:05.000 They can go back and watch it.

00:40:06.000 I have no problem.

00:40:07.000 I was reporting.

00:40:08.000 I unfortunately quite proud of what it was reported, and I got to do it.

00:40:13.000 Nothing was reported.

00:40:15.000 Where's the f ⁇ blackmail story?

00:40:16.000 Where is it?

00:40:18.000 Again, the the the hallmark of a of a true conspiracy to be uncovered is evidence.

00:40:24.000 These are the exact people who theoretically should be providing the evidence.

00:40:27.000 That's the part that's strange about this entire presentation.

00:40:30.000 You're literally bringing forth the victims who said that they were acted by prominent people, and you named zero people in this particular presser.

00:40:38.000 And it doesn't seem like their plans to reveal who these particular people are in any legally actionable way.

00:40:45.000 Well, Thomas Massey, of course, trying to make political hay while the sun shines.

00:40:49.000 He is claiming that Trump is covering up for his friends.

00:40:51.000 Who went from Trump is covering for himself to Trump is covering for his friends.

00:40:54.000 We don't know who this friends are, these unspecified friends.

00:40:58.000 How about this?

00:40:59.000 This is the flight logs.

00:41:01.000 They're withholding who was on these planes.

00:41:03.000 Like this is a document that's publicly available.

00:41:06.000 Go find it on their website.

00:41:09.000 They are redacting things to prevent embarrassment.

00:41:13.000 They're not redacting things to protect victims.

00:41:16.000 And in the process of preventing embarrassment, they're hiding some criminals.

00:41:21.000 Embarrassment to the president.

00:41:22.000 No.

00:41:23.000 Embarrassment to rich and powerful individuals who are connected to the president.

00:41:28.000 I don't think the president is redacted here.

00:41:32.000 I don't think uh he's implicated in these files, but I think his donors are.

00:41:37.000 I think his friends are.

00:41:39.000 And um I think our own DOJ and government are implicated in this too.

00:41:45.000 So in other words, he believes that there are a bunch of sex criminals that the president is covering up for because they gave him money.

00:41:51.000 That's the accusation from Thomas Massey.

00:41:52.000 I'd love to see the evidence to to uh to actually substantiate that that allegation.

00:41:57.000 Meanwhile, Marjorie Taylor Green, again, former recipient of the Billy Madison, you've just said the stupidest thing anyone's ever heard award here on the Ben Shapiro show.

00:42:06.000 Here she was encouraging President Trump to host Epstein and survivors in the Oval Office.

00:42:10.000 Again, this is all just attention grabbing behavior.

00:42:12.000 That's all it is from people like Marjorie Taylor Green.

00:42:15.000 I look forward to talking with President Trump uh about about these women that I've met. 0.97

00:42:20.000 Um I also encouraged him already this morning that he should have these women in the Oval Office. 0.99

00:42:25.000 They deserve to be there.

00:42:26.000 You spoke to him.

00:42:27.000 Yes, I did.

00:42:28.000 And um I I told him I'd be happy to set that up, um, arranging with their attorney uh by sharing his phone number.

00:42:36.000 What was his reaction about it?

00:42:38.000 I haven't gotten an answer back on that.

00:42:40.000 Okay, so I have a question.

00:42:41.000 Why is Marjorie Taylor Green specifically focusing in on this? 0.85

00:42:44.000 Well, what is the injustice that she is seeking apparently to write?

00:42:48.000 It's an allegation about a conspiracy that has yet to be substantiated.

00:42:51.000 When the evidence is offered, then we can all hear it.

00:42:55.000 And and what I keep coming back to is you are literally standing next to the alleged victims.

00:43:00.000 They should be able to tell you the names of the people who them.

00:43:03.000 If the even if those names are redacted, they should be able to tell you the names of the people who abused them.

00:43:08.000 This is, of course, a great irritation to President Trump, who says that that basically this is being kept alive at this point by a left-wing media that seeks to do him damage.

00:43:16.000 I think a lot of that is true.

00:43:19.000 Right now, uh there have been survivors of Jeffrey Epstein speaking at a press conference on Capitol Hill, they're calling for uh these case files, these documents to be released.

00:43:29.000 And Thomas Massey, who is who is sponsoring a discharge position to get the House to go and release those documents, uh, says he doesn't think you're implicated in these files, but many of your friends and donors maybe, and says that's why the Justice Department is redacting them and slow walking the release are the Justice Department protecting any friends or donors, sir.

00:43:50.000 So this is a Democrat hoax that never ends.

00:43:54.000 You know, it reminds me a little of the uh Kennedy situation.

00:43:58.000 We gave him everything over and over again, more and more and more, and nobody's ever satisfied.

00:44:03.000 From what I understand, I could check, but from what I understand, thousands of pages of documents have been given.

00:44:10.000 But it's really a Democrat hoax because they're trying to get uh people to talk about something that's totally irrelevant to the success that we've had as a nation since I've been president.

00:44:22.000 Again, he is not wrong about this.

00:44:24.000 He's not.

00:44:24.000 I know that's unpopular in certain in certain quarters.

00:44:27.000 But if the idea is that the president is involved in a cover-up, you know, at least points to Massey for saying it.

00:44:32.000 A lot of people implying it, at least Massey will say it.

00:44:35.000 Although, again, I think this is uh a fair bit of grandstanding.

00:44:38.000 Meanwhile, the the President of the United States may be actually shifting his focus when it comes to crime away from Chicago and actually toward New Orleans.

00:44:48.000 Apparently, according to NBC News, President Trump is now suggesting that he might send troops to New Orleans in another crime crackdown.

00:44:57.000 Now, I I would assume that the reason that he's gonna do that is because not only does New Orleans have very high rates of crime, but also that is in fact a red state.

00:45:04.000 So he could theoretically just call on the red state governor to allow him to utilize the National Guard.

00:45:12.000 He could do that.

00:45:13.000 So far he's been working in areas where the governor does not want to work in coordination with him in the National Guard, like California.

00:45:20.000 In Washington, D.C., he didn't have to ask for permission because Washington, D.C. is a federal territory.

00:45:24.000 When it comes to Louisiana, Louisiana's governor is in fact a Republican.

00:45:28.000 So it could be a fascinating exercise.

00:45:30.000 And certainly a lot more legally based than sort of having national law enforcement without the state government involvement enforcing local or state law, which is a violation of the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878.

00:45:44.000 President Trump said that they may be going to Louisiana or New Orleans.

00:45:49.000 He said we'll straighten that out in about two weeks.

00:45:51.000 It'll take us two weeks easier than Washington, D.C. Frankly, I think this is smart.

00:45:54.000 I think this is smart for a variety of reasons.

00:45:56.000 One, it gets past the narrative.

00:45:58.000 The Democrats are trying to retail that Trump is only targeting blue states.

00:46:02.000 Well, Louisiana is a very red state, actually.

00:46:05.000 So if he targets a blue city in a red state, which is where the crime typically is in red states, then that seems like that.

00:46:15.000 In fact, that's exactly what Trump said.

00:46:18.000 Trump said about Governor Jeff Landry, Republican, that he, quote, wants us to come in and straighten out a very nice section of the country that's become quite, you know, quite tough, quite bad.

00:46:26.000 Landry shared a clip of Trump's comments and welcomed the move.

00:46:28.000 He said we'll take President Trump's help from New Orleans to Shreveport.

00:46:32.000 In a joint statement, New Orleans at Mayor Latoya Cantrell, and the New Orleans PD touted the city's ongoing collaboration with the federal government.

00:46:39.000 They said we have consistently worked with our federal partners, including collaborations with the Louisiana state police.

00:46:44.000 This is this is quite brilliant politically.

00:46:46.000 It really is, because what it's doing is it's wrong footing Democrats again.

00:46:50.000 Because now the question becomes, why aren't you just to act if the National Guard is an additional resource that could be used by states in order to lower murder rates in places like New Orleans or Shrevefort?

00:46:59.000 And Republican governors are fine with it.

00:47:02.000 What are you complaining about?

00:47:03.000 Why don't you work with the president of the United States?

00:47:07.000 Why don't you just do that?

00:47:09.000 Like if it makes life better for your citizens and that resource is being offered, sure you could say no.

00:47:15.000 And sure you could force the president to come up with some sort of jerry-rigged federal excuse to go in.

00:47:20.000 Or you could, you know, just lower the crime rates by saying yes.

00:47:24.000 Naturally, there are, in fact, Democrats in New Orleans who are upset.

00:47:27.000 That includes New Orleans City Council president JP Morrell, who said it's ridiculous to consider sending the National Guard into another American city that hasn't asked for it.

00:47:35.000 Guardsmen are not trained law enforcement.

00:47:36.000 They can't solve crime, they can't interview witnesses, they aren't trained to constitutionally police.

00:47:40.000 Okay, but you know what they do do is they stand there.

00:47:43.000 And you know what people don't like to do is commit crimes in front of members of the National Guard.

00:47:47.000 They don't like to do that so much.

00:47:49.000 It turns out that boots on the ground are actually a really, really good way of cracking down on crime, as we've seen in Washington, D.C. So again, I think there's a very smart plan by by President Trump focusing in on Louisiana is smart.

00:48:02.000 It totally wrong foots Democrats.

00:48:05.000 And it gives President Trump the capacity to say what he said yesterday that Democrats are apparently against the prevention of crime.

00:48:12.000 This is the best issue of all.

00:48:14.000 They are against preventing crime.

00:48:17.000 They they are fighting us.

00:48:19.000 I want to go into Chicago and have this incompetent governor that doesn't want us.

00:48:24.000 Do you know that this weekend 72 people were shot in Chicago?

00:48:28.000 I'm embarrassed to say it in front of the president of Poland.

00:48:31.000 Eleven people were killed, 72 people were shot.

00:48:35.000 Last week, seven people were killed in Chicago.

00:48:40.000 A place which is probably your number one place.

00:48:42.000 I hate to say it.

00:48:43.000 Yeah, what the ball says and we gotta keep it safe.

00:48:46.000 But seven people were killed.

00:48:48.000 The week before that, five people were killed, and twenty-one people were shot.

00:48:53.000 This is in three weeks.

00:48:54.000 So in three weeks, I lost almost almost 35 people were killed.

00:49:00.000 It could have been stopped.

00:49:01.000 If you look at Washington, D.C. three weeks ago, it was the same or worse.

00:49:07.000 And now it's considered a totally safe zone.

00:49:11.000 So, you know, again, this is a smart move.

00:49:13.000 And Democrats keep wrong footing themselves.

00:49:15.000 Here, for example, is the Illinois Lieutenant Governor saying that Trump doesn't care about law and order, which is weird since he's now doing the thing you said he wouldn't.

00:49:21.000 He's going into a red state to do it.

00:49:24.000 Donald Trump will want to come in and say, well, uh, I need to get in there and get things in order.

00:49:29.000 Donald Trump doesn't care about public safety.

00:49:32.000 He doesn't care about law and order.

00:49:34.000 This is a president who wants to cause chaos.

00:49:37.000 And uh what we are telling people is you need to make sure that as you exercise your First Amendment rights, which you should, uh, that you do so in a way that you are safe and that we will do everything that we can as your leaders to protect our people.

00:49:52.000 So, I mean, good luck with this argument, seriously.

00:49:55.000 But this is what Democrats are going to try, I suppose.

00:49:58.000 Democrats are making a lot of dumb moves these days.

00:50:00.000 The president is trying to make things better in New York by basically clearing a path for Andrew Cuomo to be the sole candidate to run against Zoran Mamdani.

00:50:08.000 According to Politico, New York City Mayor Eric Adams has been reluctant to abandon his bid for re-election, but President Trump might offer him an instrumental post.

00:50:16.000 And it might make it easier to stop Mam Dani from winning in New York if that were to happen. 0.99

00:50:20.000 Right now, the polls show Mamdani stuck in the low to mid-40s.

00:50:24.000 The rest of the field is consolidated.

00:50:27.000 Or has failed to consolidate and is thus split, leading to Mamdani's potential victory.

00:50:31.000 Apparently, Adams would be offered a position at HUD, the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development.

00:50:37.000 A White House official would neither confirm nor deny that that is precisely what was happening.

00:50:41.000 There's also been some talk about Curtis Leewa being offered some sort of position to get them out of the race and leave Andrew Cuomo as the sole remaining candidate to run.

00:50:50.000 Again, Zoran Mamdani.

00:50:52.000 This led Mondani to then post quote, today's news confirms that Cuomo is Trump's choice for mayor.

00:50:57.000 The White House is considering jobs for Adams and Slewa to clear the field.

00:51:00.000 New Yorkers are sick of corrupt politics and backroom deals no matter who's running.

00:51:04.000 We'll deliver a better future on November 4th.

00:51:07.000 Here was Mamdani saying this.

00:51:10.000 Andrew Cuomo is Donald Trump's choice to be the next mayor of this city.

00:51:15.000 This is, however, about an affront to our democracy.

00:51:21.000 An affront to what makes so many of us proud to be Americans.

00:51:25.000 That we choose our own leaders.

00:51:28.000 Not that they get to pick themselves.

00:51:31.000 Not that they get to be picked by the president of the United States.

00:51:34.000 If I was worried about polling, I wouldn't be the Democratic nominee.

00:51:37.000 Okay, so um here, here's the thing.

00:51:41.000 It's not about Trump loving Andrew Cuomo.

00:51:43.000 He does not love Andrew Cuomo by any stretch of the imagination.

00:51:46.000 He just thinks that you're garbage because you are Zoran Mamdani, because you're terrible.

00:51:51.000 And offering a one-on-one alternative is not, in fact, anti-democratic.

00:51:55.000 I mean, I'd love to see Zoran Mamdani make this case to the Democratic Party, which consolidated around, say, Joe Biden to stop Bernie Sanders.

00:52:01.000 Maybe he would.

00:52:02.000 Maybe he would, but he'd be wrong.

00:52:05.000 So that race may be about to get very, very interesting indeed.

00:52:09.000 Alrighty, coming up for our members right now on the show, we'll get to the latest on the economy.

00:52:16.000 Is a stagnation in the works?

00:52:18.000 Why are we seeing better earnings?

00:52:20.000 And is that an indicator that the economy is doing well?

00:52:23.000 What's the story?

00:52:23.000 Remember, in order to watch, you have to be a member.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - September 04, 2025

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