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00:00:27.000So, heading into last night's debate, the expectations for J.D. Vance, the vice presidential candidate for Donald Trump, were very, very high.
00:00:34.000And he had to overcome that bar, and he did it with alacrity.
00:00:38.000Just on a performance basis, J.D. Vance turned in one of the best Republican debate performances I've ever seen.
00:00:43.000The only one of this century that even comes close to matching it was Mitt Romney's first debate performance against Barack Obama.
00:00:49.000In terms of optics, in terms of what he was trying to do, in terms of his mission out there, he accomplished that.
00:00:57.000His mission was to make it palatable for swing voters to look at the Trump-Vance ticket and not see chaos.
00:01:04.000There's a reason that Kamala Harris and Tim Walls had immediately made J.D. Vance the centerpiece of their campaign for the White House when he was picked.
00:02:19.000As we will see, there were some false fact checks.
00:02:22.000J.D. Vance, because he's a very smart person and because he knows his issues, was able to turn those fact checks around to harm the moderator and to harm Tim Walz.
00:02:30.000Walz, for his part, had to basically portray Vance and Trump as nuts.
00:02:37.000Every time he tried to launch such an attack, Vance would disarm him.
00:02:41.000Vance would disarm him not only because Vance has two standard IQ deviations on him, but also because J.D. Vance was actually quite kind last night.
00:02:49.000In fact, watching that debate was somewhat dull, actually.
00:02:53.000It started off, there were no rock-em-sock-em robots, no real kind of big haymaker moments, not the kind of stuff you're used to seeing from President Trump, where you never know what you're going to get.
00:03:01.000It was kind of bad TV, to be honest with you.
00:03:04.000And the reason it was bad TV is because J.D. Vance made it Absolutely solid.
00:03:10.000It was just solid. You watched him, and you knew, you felt comfortable that he was going to give a good, solid answer on every question he was asked, and that every attack would be turned away with a nuanced point of view.
00:03:21.000Again, J.D., I think, was 10 out of 10 last night.
00:03:23.000Walls, for his part, had some big boo-boos.
00:03:26.000Now, is that really going to hurt Tim Walls in any serious way?
00:03:28.000Not really. Everybody already understands that the man's goofball.
00:03:32.000However, did it mean that Walls was able to accomplish his purpose last night, which was to paint Trump and Vance as totally unpalatable?
00:03:44.000The moderators did their best to try to make J.D. Vance the subject of the attacks, or Donald Trump the subject of the attacks.
00:03:49.000J.D. Vance did something that I think is important for all Republicans to take note of.
00:03:53.000Yes, he was facing an entrenched opposition.
00:03:55.000Yes, he was facing an overwhelming barrage of questions from people who hate him and his opponent.
00:04:02.000And you know what he did? He succeeded anyway.
00:04:04.000And this is what we should expect of our Republican candidates.
00:04:07.000Republicans in the base, I know that we've gotten used to the idea of victimhood because there are so many people out there who hate conservatives and who are willing to lie and because the media are constantly lying about the issues and they're constantly attacking whoever the Republican is.
00:04:25.000Because of that, we've gotten into kind of this mindset of the obstacles are insuperable.
00:04:30.000We can never overcome them. What J.D. Vance showed is that when you have a smart person on the stage, you absolutely can overcome them.
00:04:36.000And in fact, you can be victorious over them.
00:04:39.000It actually helps you in some ways when people are that obviously anti-you because you can jujitsu their energy against them.
00:04:47.000That's what J.D. Vance did last night.
00:04:49.000So I want to get to the actual debate.
00:04:50.000Now again, I'm just talking here about aesthetics, debate performance, what the candidates were trying to do.
00:04:55.000I will say one area where I would have hoped that J.D. Vance did a little bit more was in painting Harris walls not just as not competent, but painting them as as radical as they are.
00:05:06.000I think the impression you came away from this debate with was that J.D. Vance is really smart and really good at this, and that one day he might make a great president.
00:05:14.000I think that's the overall aesthetic sense that you got from J.D. Vance.
00:05:18.000What you didn't get was a feeling that it is totally unpalatable to vote for Harris-Walls, which I think was the other mission for J.D. So one mission was defensive, and that was prevent Democrats from painting Trump- Vance, as so out of the box, so chaotic, so crazy, you could never vote for them.
00:05:37.000The thing he didn't do was paint Walls-Harris as so insanely radical that you should never vote for them.
00:05:43.000In fact, there was a bizarre amount of agreement last night during the debate.
00:05:47.000Walls would say something and Vance would say, well, I sort of agree with that.
00:05:49.000And then Vance would say something and Walls would say, well, I sort of agree with that.
00:05:53.000Now, I think conventional wisdom suggests that that was good for Vance because, you know, it made him appear kind, it made him appear conciliatory, and I think that's true.
00:06:02.000But there's one sense in which it was not good for Trump Vance, and that sense is that if Tim Walz is able to say that he agrees with some of the things that J.D. Vance is saying, it makes their ticket overall appear much more moderate than they actually are.
00:06:17.000And this is sort of a problem. And it speaks to a deeper Republican problem when it comes to policy.
00:06:22.000They'll become evident over the course of the debate that we're about to go through.
00:06:26.000One of the things that's so fascinating about the Trump phenomenon is that if you look just in terms of policy, it seems fairly typically Republican.
00:06:33.000Trump term one was very similar, actually, in many ways, to George W. Bush policy.
00:06:38.000You got a tax cut. Trump was harder on immigration than George W. Bush was.
00:06:42.000That was probably the big distinction. You got some good federal judges.
00:06:46.000Which ends with the overturning of Roe v.
00:06:48.000Wade, obviously. And you got a very solid foreign policy.
00:06:52.000A better foreign policy than George W. Bush's.
00:06:54.000But basically what you got was hawkish foreign policy.
00:07:05.000In fact, almost indistinguishable on the domestic front from sort of the compassionate conservatism of the early 2000s from George W. Bush.
00:07:13.000Last night, the sort of republicanism that was being pushed from J.D. Vance, if you knew nothing about his actual positions, if you knew nothing about what J.D. believes about abortion, he's pro-life.
00:07:21.000If you knew nothing about any of these things, it would be almost impossible to tell that J.D. Vance was extremely pro-life on that stage.
00:07:29.000It would be almost impossible to tell whether or not J.D. Vance, for example, wants to cut the scope of government or whether he wants to expand it.
00:07:36.000In fact, if you watched the debate last night, you would think J.D. actually wants to radically increase the size and scope of government in our lives.
00:07:43.000And despite all of the talk about the new isolationist wing of the Republican Party, J.D. Vance was as hawkish on foreign policy.
00:07:49.000He was using Reagan's slogans like peace through strength, which was frankly music to my ears because I think that Reagan was correct on foreign policy.
00:07:55.000And the best foreign policy is, in fact, peace through strength.
00:07:59.000All of which is to say, for all the talk about the wild vacillations inside the Republican Party about policy, those vacillations are extremely overplayed.
00:08:09.000The Republican Party, for as long as I've been alive, has been a low-tax, high-spending, harsh on foreign policy, like hawkish on foreign policy, and socially conservative party.
00:10:06.000The word that Walls casts at others is, in fact, just projection.
00:10:08.000He is a weirdo. And so, on camera, he looks very much like Don Rickles if Don Rickles had just sniffed some glue.
00:10:15.000And so, every time they cut to him, he's kind of stumbling and bumbling over himself.
00:10:20.000Looking slightly confused, the split screens were somewhat manic.
00:10:24.000Him writing manically on a piece of paper or him looking bewilderedly around as though there's a bug flying around in the room.
00:10:32.000There's a great split screen at one point where Walls was talking and J.D. Vance gave the full-on Jim Halpert to the camera, like from the office.
00:10:39.000He kind of went... In any case, the first question was about the situation in the Middle East.
00:10:44.000So for those who didn't see our live show yesterday, we did a live show in the afternoon, because Iran fired 181 ballistic missiles at Israel.
00:10:52.000It didn't end up killing anybody except for one Gazan, Palestinian actually, who was in the West Bank, and a missile that had been shot down by Israel's David Sling system, the wreckage of that fell down in Taliban.
00:11:04.000But, actually more Iranians were killed.
00:11:06.000In the attack than Israelis, because five Iranians apparently died on the ground in Iran when one of the missiles they were shooting blew up.
00:11:14.000It was 181 cruise missiles fired at Israel.
00:11:16.000We'll get to all the details on that a little bit later.
00:11:18.000And it's just another indicator of the kind of chaos that's been caused by Joe Biden and Kamala Harris in the Middle East.
00:11:24.000Biden and Harris have created enormous chaos in the Middle East, as we will find out from J.D. Vance.
00:11:28.000Their embrace of Iran, their attempt to distance themselves from the Saudis and from the Israelis has led to the most cataclysmic conflict in the Middle East in our lifetime.
00:11:39.000Truly. In any case, Tim Walz tried to explain why, somehow, Kamala Harris ought to be given credit for what was going on in the Middle East, and it didn't go amazing.
00:11:51.000Hamas terrorists, over 1,400 Israelis and took prisoners.
00:11:59.000Israel's ability to be able to defend itself is absolutely fundamental.
00:12:03.000Getting its hostages back, fundamental.
00:12:06.000and ending the humanitarian crisis in Gaza.
00:12:11.000But the expansion of Israel and its proxies is an absolute fundamental necessity
00:12:17.000for the United States to have the steady leadership there.
00:12:19.000You saw it experienced today, where along with our Israeli partners and our coalition,
00:12:27.000But what's fundamental here is that steady leadership is gonna matter.
00:12:31.000It's clear, and the world saw it on that debate stage a few weeks ago, a nearly 80 year old Donald Trump
00:12:37.000talking about crowd sizes is not what we need in this moment.
00:12:40.000Okay, so you can see he's stumbling all over himself.
00:12:43.000He mixes up Iran and Israel, I think, twice in the course of that one clip.
00:12:47.000He looks really awkward. And then they cut to J.D. Vance, and J.D. is smooth, and he's polished, and he's professional, and he knows the issue and the substance.
00:12:54.000He's totally right. As much as Governor Walz just accused Donald Trump of being an agent of chaos, Donald Trump actually delivered stability in the world, and he did it by establishing effective deterrence.
00:13:05.000People were afraid of stepping out of line.
00:13:08.000Iran, which launched this attack, has received over $100 billion in unfrozen assets thanks to the Kamala Harris administration.
00:13:17.000They use it to buy weapons that they're now launching against our allies, and God forbid, potentially, launching against the United States as well.
00:13:24.000Donald Trump recognized that for people to fear the United States, you needed peace through strength.
00:13:30.000They needed to recognize that if they got out of line, the United States' global leadership would put stability and peace back in the world.
00:13:37.000Now, you asked about a preemptive strike, Margaret, and I want to answer the question.
00:13:41.000Look, it is up to Israel what they think they need to do to keep their country safe.
00:14:13.000And Vance continued along these lines.
00:14:15.000At one point, Walls suggested, you know, it's a really dangerous world out there, and Iran is as close to a nuclear weapon as they've ever been.
00:14:21.000It's because Trump pulled out of the nuclear weapons deal that we had with Iran, the so-called JCPOA, which is a terrible deal that Obama signed with Iran in order to normalize relations with Iran and open up their economy.
00:14:32.000And J.D. Vance is like, wait, hold up.
00:14:33.000You're saying that Iran is as close to a nuke as they've ever been.
00:14:37.000Who's the president? Who's the vice president?
00:14:39.000I missed it. You yourself just said Iran is as close to a nuclear weapon today as they have ever been.
00:14:47.000And Governor Walz, you blame Donald Trump.
00:14:48.000Who has been the vice president for the last three and a half years?
00:14:51.000And the answer is your running mate, not mine.
00:14:54.000Donald Trump consistently made the world more secure.
00:14:58.000We talk about the sequence of events that led us to where we are right now, and you can't ignore October the 7th,
00:15:05.000which I appreciate Governor Walz bringing up, but when did Iran and Hamas and their proxies attack Israel?
00:15:11.000It was during the administration of Kamala Harris.
00:15:14.000So, Governor Walz can criticize Donald Trump's tweets, but effective, smart diplomacy and peace through strength
00:15:21.000is how you bring stability back to a very broken world.
00:15:24.000When was the last time, I'm 40 years old, when was the last time that an American president didn't have a major
00:16:03.000But this is sort of the point about how his administration works.
00:16:06.000Trump, in administration one, he went out there and he would tweet something.
00:16:10.000Everybody would be like, oh my god, I can't believe he tweeted that.
00:16:11.000And then there would be people who were competent, like, say, J.D. Vance, actually implementing the thing that he wanted to do and putting all the flesh on the bones of the instincts that Trump had.
00:16:21.000And that's why it's so wonderful to hear JD Vance do that.
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00:17:33.000They move on to the issue of immigration.
00:17:35.000So the first issue was the Middle East where Kamala Harris is a disaster area.
00:17:39.000The second area is immigration where Kamala Harris is a disaster area.
00:17:42.000And again, it's so wonderful to hear the case just laid out cogently, calmly by Senator Vance right here.
00:17:51.000Before we talk about deportations, we have to stop the bleeding.
00:17:54.000We have a historic immigration crisis because Kamala Harris started and said that she wanted to undo all of Donald Trump's border policies.
00:18:03.00094 executive orders, suspending deportations, decriminalizing illegal aliens, massively increasing the asylum fraud that exists in our system.
00:18:15.000And what it's meant is that a lot of fentanyl is coming into our country.
00:18:17.000I had a mother who struggled with opioid addiction and has gotten clean.
00:18:21.000I don't want people who are struggling with addiction to be deprived of their second chance because Kamala Harris let in fentanyl into our communities at record levels.
00:19:11.000When he weaves in there, subtly, the experiences of his mother, who had an addiction to alcohol and drugs, when he talks directly to the American people, when he swivels the question, the original question that he was asked, by the way, right there, was about Donald Trump's mass deportation policy, and Tim Walz had said something about him wanting to separate families.
00:19:31.000How he swivels that into a cogent and coherent answer is just wonderful.
00:19:36.000Now, again, for his part, Walls was basically falling apart on the stage.
00:19:41.000And when it came to illegal immigration, he had to somehow try to make the case that Kamala Harris had been harsh with illegal immigration.
00:19:46.000And then he had to also make the case that Kamala Harris was being compassionate with regard to illegal immigration.
00:19:52.000And so he tried to bring up apparently the only line of the New Testament that Democrats ever cite, the line from Matthew about the least of these.
00:19:58.000So here we go. I don't talk about my faith a lot, but Matthew 2540 talks about, to the least amongst us you do unto me.
00:20:07.000I think that's true of most Americans.
00:20:32.000Well, in just one second, I want to get to what was probably the big takeaway from the debate, and this was the moment where the moderators really made their bias absolutely clear.
00:20:41.000The moderators in this debate were absolutely awful, truly bad.
00:20:45.000Margaret Brennan was by far the worst of the two.
00:20:48.000It was Norah O'Donnell and Margaret Brennan.
00:20:49.000Norah O'Donnell was not good. Margaret Brennan was a full-scale, four-alarm fire disaster area.
00:21:23.000Those increased attacks have forced many people to remain in bomb shelters with no access to food, water, or other essentials.
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00:22:33.000That's all you remember from the whole debate.
00:22:35.000Nothing else. Maybe Donald Trump suggesting that he...
00:22:38.000I don't know what he's saying and he doesn't know what he's saying either.
00:22:40.000From the debate with Trump and Kamala, the only thing that anyone remembers for that whole debate was they're eating the cats and they're eating the dogs.
00:22:46.000Literally the only thing anyone remembers.
00:22:48.000The question about the VP debate is what exactly is the thing that people are going to remember coming out?
00:22:54.000There are probably two moments that have the possibility of being sort of the takeaway.
00:22:58.000One of them was when J.D. Vance went up against Margaret Brennan.
00:23:01.000So the... The moderators had said at the very top they were not going to do the thing that happened during the Kamala-Trump debate in which the moderators fact-checked Trump.
00:23:13.000Like every single time he said something, they would jump in and do a fact-check.
00:23:15.000It was absurd. They said they weren't going to do that.
00:23:17.000Then they proceeded to do that with J.D. Vance.
00:23:18.000The difference is that J.D. knows the facts.
00:23:21.000So when they started to quote-unquote fact-check him, he was able to go right back at them and insist on fact-checking them back, at which point they cut his mic.
00:23:32.000Here was that exchange. Thank you, Governor.
00:23:35.000And just to clarify for our viewers, Springfield, Ohio, does have a large number of Haitian migrants who have legal status, temporary protected status.
00:23:48.000I think it's important. We're going to turn out of the economy.
00:23:51.000Thank you. Margaret, the rules were that you guys weren't going to fact check.
00:23:54.000And since you're fact checking me, I think it's important to say what's actually going on.
00:23:58.000So there's an application called the CBP One App, where you can go on as an illegal migrant, apply for asylum or apply for parole, and be granted legal status at the wave of a Kamala Harris open border wand.
00:24:13.000That is not a person coming in, applying for a green card and waiting for 10 years.
00:24:17.000Thank you, Senator. Deportation of illegal immigration, Margaret, by our own leadership.
00:24:21.000Thank you, Senator, for describing the legal process.
00:25:00.000His actual fact check of her is correct.
00:25:03.000Now what she's saying is technically true.
00:25:05.000The Haitian migrants who are in Springfield, Ohio, are there on temporary protected status.
00:25:10.000That doesn't mean that they're full on in the immigration system or that they're going to be granted full asylum or anything like that.
00:25:16.000It means, as J.D. Van said, that they're basically just facilitated into the country.
00:25:21.000When we talk about millions of illegal immigrants coming into the country, very often those illegal immigrants are coming to the border and they are being facilitated into the country by our own government under things like temporary protected status.
00:25:33.000People claim asylum and then magically those people are deemed to have temporary protected status.
00:25:46.000Yes, they lie. Yes, they fact-check only Republicans.
00:25:48.000And half the time, those fact-checks are wrong.
00:25:51.000However, that is not, in fact, an obstacle that Republicans cannot overcome.
00:25:55.000And J.D. Vance just showed how to do it.
00:25:58.000Okay, then they moved on to the economy.
00:26:00.000And one of the things that, frankly, was a bit frustrating for me is as a free market person who believes that the government's intervention in the economy is generally a bad thing and that the growth of the American economy is reliant on entrepreneurialism and innovation and explosive dynamism, you know, because free market economics and because private property.
00:26:20.000It was bewildering and annoying to me to hear both parties are now the parties of big government.
00:26:26.000I'm not sure the word free market, those words were uttered on the stage last night.
00:26:31.000I'm not sure that anybody made the case for a smaller government on the stage last night.
00:26:36.000I think it is fair to say the era of small government in the United States is over.
00:26:41.000And again, I understand why politically J.D. Vance is saying that.
00:26:44.000I think J.D. Vance also has some ideological predilections toward big government involvement in many areas of the American economy, with which I disagree.
00:26:52.000Now, that doesn't mean that he's not a very articulate defender of his position.
00:26:55.000I just wish one of the parties liked the free market at this point.
00:26:57.000That would be really nice. I would love it if the Republican Party was a party that said, actually, the biggest obstacle to growth in the United States is government spending.
00:27:05.000Not that they're spending in the wrong place, that they shouldn't be spending it at all.
00:27:09.000The biggest obstacle to growth in the United States is the regulations that hamper business.
00:27:13.000The biggest obstacle to growth in the United States is the government picking winners and losers.
00:27:18.000You want Americans to have a better way of life?
00:27:20.000What you need is to unchain them from the shackles of government.
00:27:24.000That's the thing I wish Republicans would say, but that's not the position that was taken on the stage last night.
00:27:30.000So it turned into a bit of back and forth about who gets to spend how much and how much is the right amount to spend, but we all have to spend more.
00:27:38.000The critique that J.D. Vance made of Tim Walls on this point was, you make all these big promises, but you haven't done any of them.
00:27:44.000And that's a fine critique. It's very true.
00:27:45.000Obviously, something I've said about Kamala Harris as well.
00:27:55.000But it would have been really nice to hear a defense of free markets, Of innovation?
00:28:00.000Of private property? On the stage last night.
00:28:02.000And neither party seems to be willing to do that these days.
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00:29:29.000It's like soup out of Van Gogh painting.
00:29:30.000Just take that money and just chuck it at things.
00:29:32.000Firehose money. That's Tim Wall's basic proposal when it comes to bringing down the price of housing, which is weird because when you subsidize the buying of housing, but you don't remove the regulations on the building of housing, that creates increased demand with the same supply, which definitionally increases price.
00:29:50.000There's three million new houses proposed under this plan with down payment assistance on the front end to get you in a house.
00:29:56.000A house is much more than just an asset to be traded somewhere.
00:30:30.000And again, he does the pro thing if you're a big government guy.
00:30:33.000Now, I could attack each one of those policies for being untrue.
00:30:36.000When he says we're going to do tax cuts for the middle class, What he really means is we're going to subsidize certain people at the expense of other people.
00:30:43.000And he says that Donald Trump's tax cuts affected largely the rich.
00:30:46.000That is not true. In fact, they're one of the most regressive tax cuts in American history in the sense that they, progressive, in the sense that they actually affected people in the middle class more on average than people at the top in terms of percentage cuts, for example.
00:30:58.000But the tack that Vance chose, again, is a smart debate tack and happens to be true, is, okay, sounds great.
00:31:04.000Why didn't you do any of it? You're going to hear a lot from Tim Walsh this evening, and you just heard it in the answer.
00:31:10.000A lot of what Kamala Harris proposes to do, and some of it, I'll be honest with you, it even sounds pretty good.
00:31:16.000Here's what you won't hear, is that Kamala Harris has already done it.
00:31:20.000Because she's been the vice president for three and a half years, she had the opportunity to enact all of these great policies, and what she's actually done instead is drive the cost of food higher by 25%.
00:31:32.000Drive the cost of housing higher by about 60%.
00:31:36.000Open the American southern border and make middle class life unaffordable for a large number of Americans.
00:31:41.000If Kamala Harris has such great plans for how to address middle class problems, then she ought to do them now.
00:31:48.000Not when asking for a promotion, but in the job the American people gave her three and a half years ago.
00:31:52.000And the fact that she isn't tells you a lot about how much you can trust her actual plans.
00:31:58.000Okay, so again, I agree that everything that he says there is true.
00:32:01.000Also, it'd be great to hear on principle why Kamala Harris's economic plans are wrong.
00:32:05.000That'd be great. Like, first principles explanation.
00:32:08.000That's why, again, I think J.D. Vance did some really heavy lifting on behalf of the Trump campaign.
00:32:11.000I think he really helped himself in terms of his future possible presidential aspirations.
00:32:17.000One of my questions, when we get to the abortion issue, we'll see more of this, is whether he laid any sort of ideological groundwork for the traditional conservative position.
00:32:25.000I think that the answer there is less than I wish in some ways.
00:32:29.000But again, a lot of good hits for Vance.
00:32:31.000So, for example, clip 13. At a certain point, Walls sort of started spewing nonsense about what a wonderful job Kamala Harris had done, and JD drops the hammer on him.
00:32:43.000If you notice, what Governor Walz just did is he said, first of all, Donald Trump has to listen to the experts.
00:32:48.000And then when he acknowledged that the experts screwed up, he said, well, Donald Trump didn't do nearly as good of a job as the statistics show that he did.
00:32:55.000So what Tim Walz is doing, and I honestly, Tim, I think you got a tough job here.
00:32:59.000Because you've got to play whack-a-mole.
00:33:00.000You've got to pretend that Donald Trump didn't deliver rising take-home pay, which of course he did.
00:33:05.000You've got to pretend that Donald Trump didn't deliver lower inflation, which of course he did.
00:33:10.000And then you've simultaneously got to defend Kamala Harris's atrocious economic record, which has made gas, groceries, and housing unaffordable for American citizens.
00:33:19.000I was raised by a woman who would sometimes go into medical debt So that she could put food on the table in our household.
00:33:26.000I know what it's like to not be able to afford the things that you need to afford.
00:33:51.000Even Democrats were acknowledging last night it was not a good night for Tim Walz.
00:33:54.000The worst moment of the night for Tim Walz was when he was asked about the fact that he had suggested that he was in Hong Kong during the Tiananmen Square massacre.
00:34:03.000This went about as poorly for Tim Walz as possible for things to go in a presidential debate.
00:34:09.000My commitment has been from the beginning to make sure that I'm there for the people, to make sure that I get this right.
00:34:35.000Praising Xi Jinping about COVID. And I guarantee you he wouldn't start a trade war that he ends up losing.
00:34:41.000So this is about trying to understand the world.
00:34:44.000It's about trying to do the best you can for your community.
00:34:47.000And then it's putting yourself out there and letting your folks understand what it is.
00:34:50.000My commitment, whether it be through teaching, which I was good at, or whether it was being a good soldier or was being a good member of Congress, those are the things that I think are the values that people care about.
00:35:00.000Governor, just to follow up on that, the question was, can you explain the discrepancy?
00:35:06.000All I said on this was, is I got there that summer and misspoke on this.
00:35:10.000So I will just, that's what I've said.
00:35:14.000So I was in Hong Kong and China during the democracy protests went in.
00:36:00.000Imagine trying to eat 31 different fruits and veggies every day.
00:36:03.000It sounds miserable. It sounds time-consuming.
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00:37:58.000That's not something we're interested in.
00:37:59.000The Supreme Court itself has suggested that federal legislation is inapposite, that this probably should be delegated down to the states, and there really isn't much the federal government can do.
00:38:08.000J.D. Vance was trying to soften his appeal to women, clearly.
00:38:11.000He was trying to say to them, listen, I feel you, I empathize with you, I get it.
00:38:16.000The problem is that the argument that he made last night was really not an argument so much as an emotional appeal.
00:38:21.000And while I admire the skill with which it was done, I do not appreciate the political and value line that undergirds it.
00:38:30.000Which basically suggests that the big problem is that we just haven't convinced enough people in the United States that a woman should choose life rather than choosing abortion.
00:38:38.000That may be true. That is also not the issue as to legislation.
00:38:42.000I agree. Everybody needs to do a better job of trying to convince women thinking about abortion not to have an abortion.
00:38:47.000This is why, for example, one of our advertisers is pre-born.
00:38:51.000Their literal job is to go to pregnant moms and show them ultrasounds to try to convince them on a one-to-one level not to have an abortion.
00:38:58.000However, when you are talking about the pro-life position, the pro-life position is not merely that this is a matter of choice and that we should try to convince individual women not to have abortions.
00:40:07.000It's a simple question. And Tim Walls is not going to have an answer for that.
00:40:11.000The answer, of course, is he would veto it.
00:40:13.000In any case, here was JD's attempt to answer the abortion question.
00:40:17.000I want to talk about this issue because I know a lot of Americans care about it and I know a lot of Americans don't agree with everything that I've ever said on this topic.
00:40:25.000And, you know, I grew up in a working class family in a neighborhood where I knew a lot of young women who had unplanned pregnancies and decided to terminate those pregnancies because they feel like they didn't have any other options.
00:40:36.000And, you know, one of them is actually very dear to me.
00:40:39.000And I know she's watching tonight, and I love you.
00:40:42.000And she told me something a couple years ago that she felt like if she hadn't had that abortion, that it would have destroyed her life because she was in an abusive relationship.
00:40:51.000And I think that what I take from that, as a Republican who proudly wants to protect innocent life in this country, who proudly wants to protect the vulnerable, is that my party, we've got to do so much better of a job at earning the American people's trust back on this issue where they frankly just don't trust us.
00:41:09.000Okay, so, if you took that clip out of context, you could make the argument that J.D. Vance is pro-choice.
00:41:14.000I know he isn't, obviously, and people who watch politics know that he isn't, but if you took that clip out of context, where you think that story is going is, my friend said that she needed to have an abortion because it would have ruined her life to have the baby, and what I said to her is that every life has meaning, And that, I'm sorry she felt that way, but every life deserves a chance, right?
00:41:34.000You think that's where the story's going as a pro-lifer, and that's not where the story goes.
00:41:37.000And the problem is that when Republicans refuse to make the argument or engage in the argument, that does create space to pretend that Democrats are somehow moderate on the issue.
00:41:44.000Now, to his credit, Vance did call out Walls with regard to the law in the state of Minnesota.
00:41:50.000The law in the state of Minnesota, Walls actually vetoed a bill that would have protected the health rights of children who were born during botched abortions.
00:42:00.000And apparently up to eight kids in the state of Minnesota have basically been born during botched abortions and then were effectively denied health care and their rights because of Tim Walz's bill.
00:42:12.000Vance brought that up and Walz kind of fibbed about it.
00:42:15.000These are women's decisions to make about their health care decisions and the physicians who know best when they need to do this.
00:42:22.000Trying to distort the way a law is written to try and make a point, that's not it at all.
00:42:26.000But what was I wrong about, Governor? Please tell me, what was I wrong about?
00:42:28.000That is not the way the law is written.
00:42:30.000Look, I've given this advice on a lot of things, that getting involved, that's been misread and it was fact-checked at the last debate.
00:42:37.000But the point on this is there's a continuation of these guys to try and tell women or to get involved.
00:42:43.000I use this line on this, just mind your own business.
00:42:46.000I asked a specific question, Governor.
00:43:05.000He's trying to be kind. He's trying to be effective on the stage.
00:43:08.000I get all of that. Also, Tim Walls is radically pro-abortion.
00:43:11.000I mean, that's just the reality of the situation.
00:43:15.000Okay. Meanwhile, again, one of my big sort of critiques overall of the moment in which we stand is that there is no one left who talks about small government.
00:43:23.000Like, at all. So, one of the questions was about the childcare crisis.
00:43:28.000Crisis. Okay. I tend to reserve the term crisis for things like, I don't know, war.
00:43:34.000Perhaps a hurricane. I don't tend to think that the lack of affordable childcare amounts to a crisis.
00:43:42.000I think that there are people who need childcare who can't afford it, and that's a problem.
00:43:45.000It's usually handled and should be handled by family, by locality, at best, by state authorities.
00:43:53.000This idea that it's up to the federal government to intervene with billions of dollars because there needs to be some place for two-year-olds to go while mom is working.
00:44:01.000Again, I don't see why that is a federal issue or where the federal government is empowered by the Constitution of the United States to get involved in that issue.
00:44:08.000But the Republican Party of the sort of Trump movement, and again, this actually precedes Donald Trump.
00:44:29.000So here was J.D. Vance talking about the necessity for federal involvement in child care, which, again, not into it.
00:44:37.000A number of my Republican colleagues and some Democrats, too, have worked on this issue.
00:44:41.000And I think there is a bipartisan solution here because a lot of us care about this issue.
00:44:45.000I mean, look, I speak from this very personally because I'm married to a beautiful woman who is an incredible mother to our three beautiful kids, but is also a very, very brilliant corporate litigator.
00:44:57.000But being a working mom, even for somebody with all of the advantages of my wife, is extremely It's extraordinarily difficult.
00:45:03.000And it's not just difficult from a policy perspective.
00:45:06.000She actually had access to paid family leave because she worked for a bigger company.
00:45:10.000But the cultural pressure on young families and especially young women I think makes it really hard for people to choose the family model they want.
00:45:18.000A lot of young women would like to go back to work immediately.
00:45:21.000Some would like to spend a little time home with the kids.
00:45:23.000Some would like to spend longer at home with the kids.
00:45:25.000We should have a family care model that makes choice possible.
00:45:30.000Okay, I mean, all of that may be true on a social level, but at no point in this debate did anybody just say, hey, free markets.
00:45:37.000Both of them agreed on major government involvement in manufacturing subsidies.
00:45:41.000Both of them agreed on gigantic government involvement in everything from healthcare to childcare.
00:45:47.000A party that actually represents, you know, like a small federal government, because by the way, you want a corrupt federal government, make it big.
00:45:54.000You want an effective federal government, make it small.
00:45:57.000But that argument seems to have passed by the wayside.
00:46:00.000Now, the one area in which Tim Walz probably scored a few points, I think it's probably a dead issue by now, but Democrats are going to keep trying to mine this particular well.
00:46:11.000They're going to keep trying to frack this particular well, to use a metaphor that they themselves would never use.
00:46:17.000We'll get to the January 6th of it in just one second.
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00:46:51.000Now, the one issue where I think that Tim Walls may have scored some points, particularly late in the debate, was on the issue of January 6th.
00:46:56.000Now, again, this issue is basically a debt issue.
00:46:59.000I don't think that many Americans are sitting around thinking about 2020 and January 6th or any of it.
00:47:04.000They're thinking about inflation. They're thinking about war in the Middle East.
00:47:06.000They're thinking about the economy. They're thinking about a port strike.
00:47:08.000They're thinking about hurricanes. They're thinking about the things that are happening, you know, in the calendar year 2024.
00:47:13.000They're not thinking about the stuff that happened in the calendar year 2021.
00:47:17.000However, One of the problems that J.D. Vance has to shoulder when it comes to debate situations like this is because the person who is his running mate has said over and over and over that he did not lose in 2020.
00:47:28.000J.D., who I think knows that Donald Trump lost in 2020, is forced to not just say the obvious thing The obvious thing is, yes, Donald Trump legally lost.
00:47:38.000By the laws of the United States, he lost, which is why he left office.
00:47:43.000Those questions became irrelevant the minute that Donald Trump lost the election.
00:47:47.000The state votes were certified by Congress in a legal process, and then he left.
00:47:53.000But because Donald Trump doesn't want to hear that from J.D. fans, J.D. is forced into the bizarre position of having to misdirect.
00:48:00.000Now, again, I think some of the points he's making here are great.
00:48:02.000He says, you keep talking about threats to democracy.
00:48:04.000The threats to democracy that Democrats are constantly pursuing, particularly with regard to censorship, are really, really dangerous.
00:48:10.000Here's a clip at 21. What President Trump has said is that there were problems in 2020, and my own belief is that we should fight about those issues, debate those issues peacefully in the public square, and that's all I've said, and that's all that Donald Trump has said.
00:48:26.000I believe that we actually do have a threat to democracy in this country, but unfortunately it's not the threat to democracy that Kamala Harris and Tim Walz want to talk about.
00:48:36.000It's Americans casting aside lifelong friendships because of disagreements over politics.
00:48:42.000It's big technology companies silencing their fellow citizens.
00:48:46.000And it's Kamala Harris saying that rather than debate and persuade her fellow Americans, she'd like to censor people who engage in misinformation.
00:48:53.000I think that is a much bigger threat to democracy than anything that we've seen in this country in the last four years, in the last 40 years.
00:49:01.000Okay, so, again, I agree with an enormous amount of what he's saying.
00:49:04.000However, he leaves the door open to the January 6th counterattack, and here's Walls going on the attack here.
00:49:33.000But you guys attack us for not believing in democracy.
00:49:37.000The most sacred right under the United States democracy is the First Amendment.
00:49:41.000When Mike Pence made that decision to certify that election, that's why Mike Pence isn't on this stage.
00:49:49.000What I'm concerned about is, where is the firewall with Donald Trump Where is the firewall if he knows he could do anything, including taking an election, and his vice president's not going to stand to it?
00:50:05.000So, again, does this have any impact on the election?
00:50:07.000Not really, but it does demonstrate the baggage that President Trump has brought along with him because of the activities of 2020.
00:50:13.000So, overall, what exactly does this debate mean?
00:50:15.000What it means is J.D. Vance uber-competent.
00:50:18.000It smooths off many of the rough edges, and it's going to totally change perceptions about J.D. Because if you look at the polling numbers when J.D. was first picked, very negative for J.D. Vance.
00:50:26.000He was doing these sort of Rah-rah, very online kind of stuff.
00:51:29.000It really is. And if Donald Trump says that from here to the election, without some of the bombastic stuff, without some of the sort of more exaggerated, you don't have to say that Georgia, that Brian Kemp never talked with Joe Biden.
00:51:41.000You can just say, Joe Biden is in absentia on this job.
00:51:45.000He takes phone calls and then goes back to the sleep on the beach.
00:51:49.000He can totally say the stuff that he wants to say.
00:51:51.000This has always been the story with Donald Trump.
00:51:54.000If Donald Trump turned that spinal tap volume from 11 down to like 7, he never would have lost the presidency in 2020.
00:52:01.000And he has the opportunity to win the presidency right now if he does that again.
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