Trump goes to the UN and smacks Rocket Man. Plus, was President Trump indeed wiretapped? Because there s new news suggesting his campaign manager certainly was. And we ll talk about Obamacare repeal, which is back on the table. This is The Ben Shapiro Show, and I have Rocketman stuck in my head because President Trump decided to drop that reference during his UN speech today. We will play it for you! Ben Shapiro is the host of the conservative podcast, "The Weekly Standard," and he is a frequent contributor to the New York Times, CNN, CBS, NBC, and other publications. He is a regular contributor to The Weekly Standard, and has been featured on CNN, NPR, and NPR. He is the author of several books, including "No Country For Old Men: A Biography of Michael Bloomberg," and "The Dark Side of America: The Inside Story of America's Most Powerful Man." He has been married to his long-term girlfriend, Nicole Kidman, since 2006, and they have two children, a 2-year old son and 2-month old daughter. They live in Los Angeles, California, and a 2 1/2-month-old son, a 6 1/3 month old girl named Jack, who was born in June of last July. The couple recently celebrated their first birthday, who is also in the process of getting a new house in the next episode of the show, which will be released on the podcast, on the second episode of "Ben Shapiro's new podcast, Ben Shapiro's show, "Ben and his wife is in the podcast "Ben is a Realist." Ben is a realist, not a Neoist, but he's a socialist, and he's not a neocand he's also a communist, he also is a socialist and he says that he's in Venezuela is not a socialist but he also has a good guy, he says it's not an actual socialist, but also he also says he's an atheist and he doesn't say that he does that's not in that is a guy ... but he does all of that is not an atheist, but ... he does it all of this because he says so, but Ben says it like that because he also does it because he really does that so he's just like that, right? And so on and so on, etc., etc., and so forth, etc, etc. etc. ... etc. And so much more.
00:00:21.000So now I have Rocketman stuck in my head, as does everyone in the United States, because President Trump decided to drop that reference during his UN speech today.
00:00:36.000We'll go through what was in it and what it shows about American foreign policy, because it does sort of lend credence to the idea that all this talk about realism versus neocons, that a lot of these gaps are a little bit exaggerated, but I'll explain what I mean by all of that
00:02:37.000That he greatly escalated the danger we face from both Iran and North Korea.
00:02:41.000She said, the goals of the United Nations are to foster peace and promote global cooperation.
00:02:45.000Today, the president used it as a stage to threaten war.
00:02:48.000He missed an opportunity to present any positive action the UN could take with respect to North Korea, and he launched a diatribe against Iran, again offering no pathway forward.
00:02:56.000Number one, the Trump administration was responsible for a unanimous resolution in the UN Security Council levying more sanctions on North Korea.
00:03:03.000So Trump has done more with the UN on North Korea than Obama ever did.
00:03:06.000And with regard to Iran, it is the Iran deal that has allowed the Iranians to gain power in the region.
00:03:12.000It's the Iran deal where President Obama sent literally pallets of cash, like tens of millions of dollars, pallets of cash, to the Iranian regime, which were then funneled toward terrorism, and gave them a pathway, a legal pathway, to a nuclear weapon in ten years or less.
00:03:27.000And Dianne Feinstein is ripping Trump over all of this?
00:03:32.000Actually, it's the Iran nuclear agreement that essentially has made it clear to North Korea that they should continue to pursue a nuclear weapon because once you get close enough to a nuclear weapon, then no one will attack you ever, ever, ever again.
00:03:50.000What nation would negotiate with the United States when the agreements we reach with other countries are so easily undermined?
00:03:55.000We reached a negotiation with the North Koreans during the Clinton administration.
00:04:03.000They developed a nuclear weapon anyway.
00:04:05.000So the Democrats are fighting mad and they've been forced into the awkward position of now having to defend some of the worst people on planet Earth.
00:04:12.000So President Trump at the UN today gave what was a very
00:04:18.000I mean, people are portraying this as a realist speech, but this is not really a realist speech, okay?
00:04:23.000What he was talking about today, he said things like, we don't want to intervene and change other people's systems for them, that's not our goal.
00:04:29.000But then he talked about Venezuela, and he suggested properly that they need to return to some sort of democratic rule in Venezuela.
00:04:36.000Well, if you're a hardcore realist, like a Rand Paul realist, and a non-interventionist, you'd say, what does Venezuela have to do with us?
00:04:42.000Okay, so they're oppressing their own people.
00:04:43.000Okay, so their people are starving en masse.
00:04:46.000The reality is the vast majority of Americans, as realist as we consider ourselves, still have a moral spine to what we believe about foreign policy.
00:04:55.000That doesn't mean we can afford to be the world's policemen, or that we should intervene everywhere.
00:04:59.000It does mean that when we see egregious abuses like in Venezuela, that the U.S.
00:05:03.000does consider action because the American people generally demand such action.
00:05:08.000Now, the big problem is the American people don't then have patience for such action very often, but the fact that we actually care about Venezuela demonstrates that this is not a hardcore, realist, America-first administration.
00:05:19.000You can be America-first and still pursue America's goals because one of our goals is the fomenting of democracy and liberalism, like old-school classical liberalism, around the world.
00:05:30.000Again, that doesn't mean military overthrow.
00:07:14.000Okay, well what he's talking about here is exactly correct.
00:07:16.000This is a far cry from President Obama who went in front of the United Nations virtually every year and then whined about how the United States was responsible for all the world's ills.
00:07:24.000He would go up there and he would talk about how America in the past had been too braggadocious.
00:08:01.000And it's reassuring because the truth is that in the past, President Trump has made sort of Ron Paul-ian comments about the role of the United States in the world.
00:08:09.000You remember just a few months ago, he was talking about how the U.S.
00:08:12.000has killed people like Vladimir Putin.
00:08:13.000And one of the criticisms that I think is actually not unfair of this speech is that Trump nowhere in the speech mentioned Russia and Russia's aggression continues.
00:08:20.000And I think that's perfectly appropriate to point out that President Trump should have mentioned Russia.
00:08:26.000The other critique of his speech is this line that he dropped halfway through that is totally Trumpian where he's talking about North Korea and he just decides to drop an Elton John song in the middle of his speech about North Korea.
00:08:50.000He's just reading straight from his Twitter feed now.
00:08:52.000I think it's going to be a long, long time until touchdown brings me around again, man.
00:08:57.000Apparently the North Korean delegation walked out.
00:08:59.000Apparently they were not here for this.
00:09:00.000They said they'd let a junior diplomat sit in.
00:09:02.000They packed their bags last night, pre-flight, zero hour, nine a.m.
00:09:06.000I don't understand what the purpose of the Rocketman thing is.
00:09:11.000It's funny, but it also undercuts the seriousness of the situation.
00:09:17.000There's a great tweet today about this.
00:09:19.000I do love that there's somebody who tweeted out about Ronald Reagan suggesting that Ronald Reagan should have gone to Brandenburg Gate and said,
00:10:47.000It doesn't mean everything we do is good.
00:10:49.000It doesn't mean every choice we make is the right one.
00:10:51.000But it does mean that a stronger America is a freer world and a weaker America is a less free world.
00:10:57.000And even President Trump, who sort of began this campaign as an anti-interventionist, the Iraq war was evil and conspiratorial, all of this.
00:11:04.000He's moved beyond that now, as all presidents do, okay?
00:11:07.000There's a general foreign policy consensus no matter how much we wish to buck it.
00:11:11.000Obama was the first one really to try to buck it.
00:11:13.000Uh, that says that America needs to be strong on the world stage, because otherwise the world becomes a worse place.
00:11:17.000I think Trump understands that, and good for him.
00:11:20.000Okay, before I go further, there's some big news about Trump and Paul Manafort, and was Trump right when he tweeted that he was wiretapped?
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00:12:45.000Okay, so, in other news, the big news last night,
00:12:49.000Is that there were two stories that broke about President Trump and the Russia investigation.
00:12:53.000Okay, so the first big story came courtesy of CNN.
00:12:56.000So CNN reported Monday evening that investigators quote,
00:13:05.000Furthermore, according to CNN, Manafort was tapped when he was having conversations with Trump, or may have been, and Manafort had a residence at Trump Tower.
00:13:13.000So it's actually unclear if the FBI tapped him at that location.
00:13:16.000Now you'll recall that back in January, President Trump tweeted about how the FBI under Obama had wiretapped him at Trump Tower, or they tapped his wires at Trump Tower.
00:13:25.000So there's a lot of talk about how that was a lie, it wasn't true, that he wasn't specifically tapped, that his phone wasn't tapped, for example.
00:13:32.000So there are three things that we're talking about here.
00:13:47.000There's a fourth question too, which is, was Trump on the other end of those calls?
00:13:51.000Even if Trump was on the other end of those calls, that doesn't mean that he was deliberately surveilled.
00:13:55.000It means that Manafort was surveilled.
00:13:56.000Manafort's been a very dirty player for a very long time.
00:13:58.000People have known about this for a few years now, that he was basically in bed with the Putin regime.
00:14:03.000CNN reports, the conversations between Manafort and Trump continued after the president took office, long after the FBI investigation into Manafort was publicly known, sources told CNN.
00:14:12.000They went on until lawyers for the president and Manafort insisted they stop, according to the sources.
00:14:16.000It's unclear whether Trump himself was picked up on the surveillance.
00:14:20.000So Manafort was campaign chair for Trump for about five months.
00:14:23.000He was not surveilled during that period.
00:14:26.000After he was ousted, from March to August, after he was ousted, the FBI surveillance began again.
00:14:31.000So it's very possible the FBI did not tap Trump's wires, but they may have picked Trump up while tapping Manafort's wires.
00:14:37.000So there are a couple of questions here too.
00:14:39.000One is, was the FISA warrant justified?
00:14:41.000Was this attempt to get Trump and get his campaign?
00:14:44.000Now, the case against that is that Manafort was being tapped before he was on the Trump campaign, and that while he was on the Trump campaign, they ceased the tap, basically, and then they started it up once he was off the Trump campaign again.
00:14:54.000So that cuts against the idea that Obama was deliberately targeting Trump with these wiretaps.
00:14:59.000In favor of the idea is, again, Manafort was the campaign manager, and these taps continued for a long time, and we still don't know what exactly they were tapping or how they obtained the FISA warrant.
00:15:08.000In order to believe that this was wrong, you have to believe that the FISA court was basically corrupt.
00:15:13.000That they granted the warrant in order to go after Manafort in order to get Trump.
00:15:16.000These were a bunch of Obama appointees doing his bidding in order to sink Trump.
00:15:20.000If that were the case, then you would imagine that President Obama would have had a lot at stake in leaking out information about Manafort's wires being tapped during the election cycle, right?
00:15:28.000I mean, that would have been the time to do it.
00:15:55.000It's very likely he's going to end up prosecuted.
00:15:57.000And that's the story from the New York Times today.
00:16:18.000One of the things that's interesting about this is that why would you tell Manafort you're going to indict him unless you're threatening him with indictment to get him to flip?
00:16:27.000This is the most dangerous path for Trump.
00:16:29.000The most dangerous path for Trump is not that he was tapped, not that he said anything egregious to Manafort, but that Manafort thinks he knows something and is going to bargain his way out of trouble by flipping on Trump.
00:16:40.000This is one of the reasons why there is a lot of suspicion
00:16:42.000When Mueller started getting involved with the New York Attorney General, State Attorney General Eric Schneiderman.
00:16:48.000Schneiderman considers himself part of the anti-Trump resistance.
00:16:54.000And Schneiderman, if he is used as a proxy for Mueller in order to bring state charges against Manafort, Trump does not have the power under the Constitution to pardon Manafort for a state crime.
00:17:04.000And that's a serious problem for Trump, because you could see Schneiderman bringing charges against Manafort, Manafort flipping against Trump, and all that information getting to Mueller, and then you actually have a real problem on your hands.
00:17:15.000So, this looks like there could be, in order for Mueller to retain his patina of objectivity, he's going to need to ask Schneiderman to step aside.
00:17:24.000If you really believe state crimes have been committed here, Schneiderman cannot be the face of the people going after Manafort.
00:17:32.000If you think that Jeff Sessions was right to recuse himself, I think he probably was, then you also have to believe that Schneiderman should recuse himself in this investigation into Manafort because he's just too politically driven.
00:17:44.000Okay, all of this, the reason that I go into all of this is because it's so easy to look and see these bizarre sort of parallel universes that the right and the left live in.
00:17:54.000So the left is looking at this story and they're saying, aha!
00:17:57.000Manafort was tapped because Manafort is guilty and that means Trump is guilty.
00:19:08.000I just don't see the upside there for President Trump.
00:19:12.000So, that's the story with all of this.
00:19:14.000Again, I think that while it's being blown up into a headline on CNN, I don't think this is actually huge news.
00:19:19.000And while it's being blown up by people on the right to say Trump was right all along, this whole shtick of Trump was right all along about a tweet that doesn't matter seems to me counterproductive because the only thing that matters here is whether there's going to be any underlying crime that's found, not whether Trump was right about the tweet.
00:19:48.000It's called The People vs. Barack Obama, in which I suggested that the Obama administration engaged in criminal activity in things like the IRS scandal.
00:19:56.000But I want to see the evidence that President Obama did something wildly improper in targeting Paul Manafort or the FISA court did something wildly improper in issuing the FISA warrant before I jumped down Obama's throat and suggest that this was all a targeted attempt to get Trump.
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00:22:33.000He can't filibuster it to alter American law in a way that is budget neutral, that does not increase the budget, and that affects standing versions of American law.
00:22:43.000So that means that getting rid of regulations, it's kind of difficult to determine how that's going to impact the budget.
00:22:49.000And so getting rid of regulations purely, the general rule according to the Senate parliamentarian is that that doesn't fall under reconciliation.
00:23:35.000So one of the big problems with Obamacare is that it has this open-ended commitment to increase Medicaid exposure by the federal government.
00:23:40.000We're going to pay for your Medicaid expansion basically ad infinitum on an as-needed basis.
00:24:00.000Well, this bill, the Cassidy-Graham bill, it slashes Medicaid growth pretty dramatically.
00:24:05.000Instead of the federal government sending money to states on a need basis, states are instead given block grants, which means that we just send them a set amount of money, it's not based on need, and all the money in these block grants, instead of going to the states that have already expanded their Medicaid rules, as Obamacare did, right?
00:24:24.000You need to increase your Obamacare exchange.
00:24:26.000You need to create an Obamacare exchange, then we'll send you money.
00:24:28.000This new bill gets rid of that provision.
00:24:30.000It basically says, we're going to allocate to all the states evenly, rather than to states that expanded their Obamacare subsidized Medicaid rolls.
00:24:40.000So that means that states like Texas would benefit, states like California would lose.
00:24:44.000The goal would be to cut expected Medicaid funding on the federal level by one third by 2026.
00:25:21.000Remember, the individual mandate is a funding mechanism for redistributive health care.
00:25:25.000The Obamacare mandate forces me, as a healthy person, to pay for my health care so that an old sick person can pay less for theirs.
00:25:32.000That's what Obamacare's individual mandate does.
00:25:34.000So how do they fill in that gap for the insurance companies?
00:25:37.000Well, what they do is they allow states to waive essential benefits.
00:25:41.000So this sort of halfway brings back the ability for insurance companies to sell plans that do not include pre-existing conditions.
00:25:50.000So that's how they are going to bring down the cost is by allowing more competition in the marketplace by allowing them to sell different types of insurance.
00:26:00.000So it relieves some of the regulations.
00:26:03.000Now, getting rid of the pre-existing conditions planned brings down the overall cost of health insurance, but for a select few people who are already sick and don't get insurance through their employer, those people are going to see increased health care costs.
00:26:14.000They'll see increased health care costs.
00:26:16.000There's an increase in subsidies to try and make up for that.
00:26:18.000The question is whether that is enough.
00:26:20.000So, this is a better bill than the one that Republicans rejected a couple of months back.
00:26:24.000It still won't do enough to open up competition because it leaves a lot of these key regulations in place.
00:26:28.000Until all pre-existing conditions on regulations are removed, you're going to see prices increase because competition won't be free and open.
00:26:35.000It doesn't get rid of all of Obamacare's taxes either, but it is a step in the right direction.
00:26:39.000I think there's a good shot that it passes and it should.
00:26:50.000This is the first step toward Obamacare repeal.
00:26:52.000This is not the entirety of Obamacare repeal.
00:26:55.000And so it's deeply important that we make that distinction because we don't want to lie to constituents who expect that this is going to fix everything.
00:27:02.000Meanwhile, while Republicans are struggling over the Russia investigation and Obamacare repeal, there is something else happening among Democrats, and that is a full-scale disaster.
00:27:13.000So Democrats, you know, there's this idea that when you're in the opposition that you're unified and you're cohesive and you have the ability to push things.
00:27:21.000And President Trump lately has been giving up to Democrats pretty easily.
00:27:24.000Well, the Democrats have some problems of their own.
00:27:26.000This was demonstrated last night when a bunch of illegal immigrant protesters descended on a Nancy Pelosi press conference.
00:28:49.000I mean, they're so radical that Luis Gutierrez, the representative, he was ripping on John Kelly, who is Trump's chief of staff.
00:28:55.000He said that John Kelly was basically a traitor to the United States despite his military service and said that he had basically sold out Americans and all this.
00:29:04.000And Gutierrez refuses to apologize because that's how polarized you have to be to demonstrate to your base that you're crazy enough to represent them.
00:29:11.000Do you regret speaking that strongly and criticizing John Kelly?
00:29:17.000I could have been more careful with the use of my words.
00:29:22.000And there are times that you need to re-evaluate.
00:29:25.000Having said that, I saw him as head of Homeland Security deport grandmothers who had been for 15 years reporting dutifully to Homeland Security with their American citizen grandchildren.
00:29:38.000Heartless actions and increasing deportation against people who presented no threat.
00:29:44.000So in other words, no apology to General Kelly for basically calling him a sellout to the United States of America.
00:29:53.000And meanwhile, they still have Hillary trolling around for book money, trying to claim that she's going to challenge the legitimacy of the election.
00:29:59.000I'm old enough to remember when it was crazy when President Trump said that he might challenge the legitimacy of the election.
00:31:23.000Hillary Clinton whining about her life, and Bernie Sanders and Kristen Gillibrand and illegal immigrants shouting at Nancy Pelosi for not being crazy enough.
00:31:30.000So while we talk about the Republican Party having some problems, the Democrats are far worse off than the Republicans right now.
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00:34:48.000Okay, time for some things I like and then some things that I hate.
00:34:52.000I figured that since I did Rebecca yesterday, the book by Daphne du Maurier and the movie with Laurence Olivier, we'll do some Laurence Olivier Gothic stuff.
00:35:00.000And so, this is Laurence Olivier in Wuthering Heights.
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00:37:43.000I did not find it humorous at all as someone who sat in that press briefing room every day that Sean Spicer was the press secretary.
00:37:49.000I just don't think it's humorous when the former White House spokesman comes out at this awards show with all these Hollywoods that they often rail against to make fun of the fact and, you know, pretty much admit that he lied to the American people while he was being paid by the American people to be a spokesman for the White House.
00:38:06.000This is someone who, when he came out a few days after that inauguration statement, he promised not to lie and to tell the truth.
00:38:12.000It's the self-righteousness here that I kind of enjoy.
00:38:15.000It's the idea from the media and from Hollywood that we are the arbiters of truth.
00:38:19.000The great and grand arbiters of truth, the people who had no problem with Michelle Obama at the Oscars in 2013, or Joe Biden at the Oscars in 2016, who did a legitimate sitcom, Hollywood did a legitimate sitcom with a guy named John Lovett, who's now over at Pod Save America.
00:38:51.000Like Sean Spicer, there's a part deep down inside Sean Spicer that when you watch him, you know there's a part of him that cringes when he lies.
00:38:57.000That's why you could see the deadness in his eyes when he was lying about crowd size.
00:39:02.000And so when he did that the other night,
00:39:03.000Like, that was actually a blow in favor of truth, because now, I guess we're all moving beyond the idea that he wasn't fibbing.
00:39:09.000I don't understand why that's a terrible thing, and why Hollywood is gonna get, and the media are gonna get so upset about this.
00:39:14.000Oh God, he's, how could Hollywood honor such a man?
00:39:17.000They weren't honoring him, he was the punchline of the joke.
00:41:01.000But a Princeton professor was legitimately on TV, this was a couple days ago, opposing my appearance at Berkeley for some of these same reasons.
00:41:08.000Do you think it's productive for people to interrupt a conservative speaker to walk up on the stage to block his ability to give a message to the point where that person has to be let out by security?
00:41:18.000No, that doesn't make- but in some instances I think there are moments where I don't feel it necessary for me to have to endure an argument that questions my presence.
00:41:40.000Okay, time for a quick deconstruction of the culture.
00:41:42.000So, one of the things that happened at the Emmys the other night that I didn't have a chance to comment on is there's an actress named Issa Rae.
00:42:33.000By the way, I don't think that that's true.
00:42:35.000I think that if there were a documentary about Clarence Thomas, and Clarence Thomas were up for an Emmy for some odd reason, that she would not be rooting for Clarence Thomas to win.
00:42:42.000I think what she does is she, like a lot of people on the left, identifies her own politics with blackness and then suggests that blackness is a reason why people should win Emmys.
00:43:00.000Why didn't she just say, all the people who write great stories that haven't been told before, I'm eager to see those people win.
00:43:20.000But the focus on color ruins the country.
00:43:23.000It ruins the country whether it's coming from white people or black people and pretending that it is only a problem when it comes from one race is just absurd.
00:43:31.000It's absurd, it's silly, it's backward, and it is indeed racist.
00:43:34.000It's amazing how people get away with this in the cultural world in a way they never would be able to in the political world.