The Ben Shapiro Show - We Are All Gina Carano | Ep. 1193

00:00:00.000 Gina Carano gets fired from Disney Plus for posting a Holocaust comparison on social media.

00:00:05.000 House impeachment managers show tape from inside the Capitol building on January 6th.

00:00:08.000 And then they try to blame Trump's language for the riot.

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00:01:33.000 Okay, so we're gonna get to everything impeachment related in just a few minutes here.

00:01:36.000 But honestly, the story that I think is more indicative for more Americans today than impeachment is actually a story that seems rather minor on the surface.

00:01:45.000 It seems rather minor on the surface, except that we have literally tens of millions of people in the United States who are afraid that the cancel culture is coming up for them.

00:01:52.000 And cancel culture does exist.

00:01:53.000 OK, the culture of we are going to get you fired because we don't like your social media posts, not even social media posts that are extraordinarily horrific.

00:02:00.000 You know, the kind of stuff that would get you shunned in polite society, just stuff that is a little edgy, right?

00:02:05.000 That kind of stuff that has impact.

00:02:07.000 on hundreds of millions of Americans.

00:02:09.000 And because we have in the United States an iron triangle between the Democratic Party and the media and corporations.

00:02:15.000 Okay, that iron triangle goes something like this.

00:02:17.000 The media and the Democrats agree on virtually everything.

00:02:20.000 Democrats have an agenda.

00:02:21.000 The media push that agenda.

00:02:23.000 And then the media and Democrats pressure corporations to do their bidding in order so that they can foster that agenda.

00:02:28.000 So unofficially, they're allowed to use threats in order to make clear what exactly they want to happen.

00:02:33.000 Okay, so what this results in very, very often is corporations looking to cram down a particular viewpoint on you and then cancel you.

00:02:40.000 Right, that is what many Americans are feeling today.

00:02:43.000 There are polls out there that show that a vast majority of Americans in every single political group, including liberals, except for people on the hard left, feel like they cannot say what they want to say in public because they're afraid that they are going to be cancelled, fired.

00:02:56.000 Cast out from polite society.

00:02:57.000 Hey, that is a real phenomenon.

00:02:59.000 It's taking place every single day.

00:03:00.000 And I will say it is amusing to watch as some people on the hard left get cancelled and then they turn around and they're like, why aren't people defending me?

00:03:06.000 We are.

00:03:07.000 It's just that you guys created this society. 1.00

00:03:09.000 This actually happened to a socialist moron named Nathan Robinson. 0.99

00:03:12.000 He got cancelled from The Guardian. 0.97

00:03:13.000 And he said he got canceled from The Guardian because he had put up some anti-Israel tweet. 1.00

00:03:18.000 Okay, now I think he's an idiot. 0.99

00:03:19.000 I think that his views on Israel are abhorrent, but I don't think that he should lose his columnist slot over at The Guardian. 1.00

00:03:24.000 He certainly would not defend anybody on the other side who got canceled.

00:03:27.000 In fact, he has repeatedly said cancel culture does not exist.

00:03:30.000 Okay, it does exist.

00:03:31.000 The fact that there are people out there who want you to lose your job for the sin of saying things they don't agree with is extraordinarily real, and it is happening on a moment-by-moment basis.

00:03:40.000 The latest example of this is Gina Carano. 0.99

00:03:42.000 So, Gina Carano is one of the stars of the Mandalorian. 0.59

00:03:45.000 She plays a character called Cara Dune.

00:03:47.000 And Gina Carano was a former MMA star, and then she was in a movie called Haywire, in which she sort of made her acting debut.

00:03:53.000 She's been in a bunch of stuff since then.

00:03:55.000 And then her biggest role to date was as Cara Dune in the Mandalorian.

00:03:58.000 So she's sort of the ally of the Mandalorian, who's played by Pedro Pascal.

00:04:02.000 Now, apparently back in November, according to the Hollywood Reporter, there was talk about giving her her own spinoff show because Disney Plus has decided to move into a bunch of Star Wars spinoffs, right?

00:04:11.000 Just like the Mandalorian.

00:04:13.000 Well, then they decided we're not going to do that anymore.

00:04:15.000 You know, we've decided that we're not going to do that.

00:04:17.000 Apparently, they had decided that back in November because she had made some social media posts about President Trump.

00:04:22.000 And this made them very angry.

00:04:23.000 And so they essentially removed that possibility.

00:04:27.000 Okay, so again, this is according to The Hollywood Reporter, quote, this is not the first time Carano, who played former Rebel Alliance soldier Cara Dune on The Mandalorian, has been the focus of social media ire for her political comments.

00:04:38.000 Last November, she issued contentious tweets, one in which she mocked mask wearing amid the novel coronavirus pandemic, another in which she falsely suggested that voter fraud occurred during the 2020 presidential election.

00:04:48.000 A source with knowledge of Lucasfilm's thinking told The Hollywood Reporter, quote, they've been looking for a reason to fire her for two months.

00:04:53.000 Today was the final straw.

00:04:55.000 Okay, so finally, they got Cara Dune.

00:04:58.000 Right?

00:04:59.000 They finally got Cara Dune.

00:05:00.000 They finally got Gina Carano. 1.00

00:05:02.000 By the way, what were those old tweets that were so terrible?

00:05:05.000 So she apparently tweeted on November 14th, 2020, quote, Okay, that is not something that is cancelable.

00:05:08.000 quote, Democratic government leaders now recommend we wear blindfolds along with masks so we really can't see what's going on.

00:05:14.000 Okay, that is not something that is cancelable.

00:05:16.000 On November 5th, she tweeted out, we need to clean up the election process so we are not left feeling the way we do today.

00:05:21.000 Put in place laws that protect us against voter fraud.

00:05:23.000 Investigate every state, film the counting, flush out fake votes, require ID, make voter fraud end in 2020, fix the system.

00:05:29.000 That's not controversial.

00:05:31.000 I'm sorry, that is not controversial.

00:05:32.000 Saying that you have to protect against voter fraud with things like voter ID and filming counting and flushing out fake votes.

00:05:39.000 That is not controversial.

00:05:40.000 Okay, so they're saying that they had meant to cancel her all the way back in November for those kinds of posts, which are slightly edgy, but not frankly all that edgy.

00:05:49.000 Okay, then she posted the final straw.

00:05:51.000 So what exactly was the final straw?

00:05:53.000 She posted on Instagram.

00:05:55.000 It was a picture of a Jewish woman running away from Nazi soldiers.

00:06:01.000 Okay, and here's what she wrote.

00:06:02.000 Jews were beaten in the streets, not by Nazi soldiers, but by their neighbors, even by children.

00:06:06.000 Sad face, right?

00:06:07.000 Sad emoji.

00:06:08.000 And then it's a quote that says, because history is edited, most people today don't realize that to get to the point where Nazi soldiers could easily round up thousands of Jews, the government first made their own neighbors hate them simply for being Jews.

00:06:17.000 How is that any different from hating someone for their political views?

00:06:21.000 That is not her making light of the Holocaust.

00:06:23.000 As your official Jewish friend, as an Orthodox Jew, let me just say, I don't like Holocaust comparisons.

00:06:28.000 I don't.

00:06:29.000 I think that virtually all of them are overwrought.

00:06:30.000 I think that very few of them really are accurate.

00:06:35.000 I think most of them ignore historical context.

00:06:37.000 I think virtually all of them liken things that are not like the Holocaust to the Holocaust.

00:06:40.000 I don't think that liberals in the United States are on the verge of rounding Jews up and sending them to concentration camps, for example.

00:06:46.000 With that said, this post is an overwrought holocaust comparison.

00:06:50.000 It is not a fireable offense.

00:06:51.000 It is not even close to a fireable offense.

00:06:53.000 Her saying that neighbors should treat people decently because if you don't treat your political neighbors decently, you can be roped into doing things that are evil, which is the general point.

00:07:03.000 That happens to not be a general point that is wrong.

00:07:05.000 It's just that it ought not be done in the context of a holocaust comparison.

00:07:07.000 Again, I don't like holocaust comparisons.

00:07:09.000 Is that a fireable offense?

00:07:11.000 Okay, so let me give that a little bit of flavor.

00:07:13.000 Is that a fireable offense?

00:07:14.000 Are overwrought holocaust comparisons, comparisons that should not be made, that are inappropriately made to the holocaust, are those fireable offenses?

00:07:20.000 Well, let me just mention that there's another star of the Mandalorian.

00:07:24.000 His name is Pedro Pascal.

00:07:26.000 Pedro Pascal has recently trended because he is a leftist on politics and because he has expressed support for transgender rights and all of this.

00:07:35.000 And so this makes him very popular in the Twitterverse.

00:07:38.000 Also, he's very progressive on issues like immigration.

00:07:41.000 Here is a tweet that Pedro Pascal put out on June 20th, 2018.

00:07:45.000 Hashtag, this is America.

00:07:47.000 It is a picture on the top of Germany, 1944, a bunch of Jews standing behind barbed wire in a concentration camp.

00:07:53.000 America, 2018.

00:07:54.000 It is a picture of a bunch of kids in cages, right?

00:07:58.000 So the comparison is kids in cages in Germany, 1944.

00:08:01.000 You know, except for the fact that we are housing and making sure that those kids are okay, as opposed to, you know, gassing them to death, that comparison is perfectly appropriate.

00:08:11.000 But was there an iota of comment about Pedro Pascal?

00:08:15.000 Of course not.

00:08:16.000 Gina Carano just got fired. 1.00

00:08:17.000 She didn't just get fired, she also lost her job at UTA.

00:08:21.000 So UTA represents her.

00:08:22.000 So she didn't lose her job, they represent her, right?

00:08:24.000 UTA is an agency, they represent her, and they dumped her on the side of the road. 0.96

00:08:27.000 Disney Plus has decided that Gina Carano can no longer be associated with Disney Plus because she made an overwrought Holocaust comparison that happens to be of the right. 0.98

00:08:35.000 If you make an overwrought Holocaust comparison, you're of the left. 0.88

00:08:37.000 If you call Trump Hitler, if you suggest that kids who are being kept separate from their parents in accordance with the Flores settlement, by the way, that that is like the Holocaust, you're totally fine. 0.99

00:08:47.000 We're going to get to more of this in just one second, because it is indicative of where we are in the culture, and it is a terrible moment for American culture.

00:08:55.000 And yes, this is more indicative for more Americans of what is going on in their daily lives than many of the things that are being said in the Capitol building today.

00:09:04.000 And that is not to make light of the impeachment and is not to make light of what happened on January 6th.

00:09:08.000 It is to say that social movements have consequences and we are now in the middle of a mass social movement to expel half of the American population from the body politic.

00:09:16.000 We're getting to more of this in just one second.

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00:10:33.000 Okay, so according to The Hollywood Reporter, I have a question.

00:10:38.000 Like, really, this is a question.

00:10:38.000 Mandalorian or the Star Wars galaxy after sharing a post on social media implying that being a Republican today is like being Jewish during the Holocaust.

00:10:45.000 Gina Carano is not currently employed by Lucasfilm. There are no plans for her to be in the future, a Lucasfilm spokesperson said in a statement. Nevertheless, her social media posts denigrating people based on their cultural and religious identities are abhorrent and unacceptable. I have a question. Like, really, this is a question. Who got denigrated based on cultural and religious identity? I don't understand.

00:11:05.000 Is the suggestion that when you say that people should not treat other people the way that Germans treated Jews prior to the Holocaust, that that is denigrating Jews in some way?

00:11:16.000 She's saying what happened to Jews is bad.

00:11:18.000 I don't like the comparison because, again, I don't like overall Holocaust comparisons, but is that denigrating?

00:11:25.000 I don't feel denigrated.

00:11:26.000 I'm both culturally and religiously Jewish.

00:11:29.000 In fact, I'm one of the most Jewish people I know.

00:11:31.000 Hard to find people more Jewish than I am.

00:11:33.000 I wear the hat and everything.

00:11:34.000 I do not feel denigrated by Gina Carano's Instagram post.

00:11:40.000 I feel, again, like it was overwrought.

00:11:42.000 Do I think that's a fireable offense?

00:11:44.000 Okay, also, let's just talk about things that are denigrating and abhorrent and unacceptable.

00:11:49.000 Okay, so Disney Plus has now canceled Gina Carano for the great sin of an Instagram post that they find inappropriate. 1.00

00:11:55.000 Hey, from the same people who are constantly denigrating conservatives.

00:11:59.000 I mean, like, on a regular basis.

00:12:01.000 But in any case, you know what's actually comparable to the Holocaust? 0.61

00:12:06.000 One of the most comparable things happening on planet Earth right now to the Holocaust. 0.87

00:12:09.000 The rounding up of Uighur Muslims in China and sending them to concentration camps and then forcibly sterilizing the women. 0.75

00:12:15.000 As reported by the Associated Press.

00:12:17.000 That is one of the most similar things you can have to the Holocaust. 0.77

00:12:20.000 What would you say if I told you that Disney Plus, in the credits to Mulan, thanked the Zhangjiang government, which is the province in China where they're currently holding Uighur Muslims in concentration camps. 0.96

00:12:31.000 And they thanked, Disney Plus thanked the Chinese government.

00:12:36.000 Now, which seems more cancelable to you?

00:12:38.000 Working with a government that is forcibly sterilizing Muslim women on the basis of their religion, which is kind of like the Holocaust, like without the exaggeration or the overwrought of it.

00:12:47.000 That's really a lot like the Holocaust, actually. 0.75

00:12:50.000 Which is more like that?

00:12:51.000 That or Gina Carano put out a social media meme that included a Holocaust comparison, just like Pedro Pascal did a couple of years ago.

00:13:00.000 But Pedro Pascal is good because he's on the left, and Gina Carano is really bad because she's not on the left.

00:13:05.000 So UTA has now also dropped the actor.

00:13:09.000 On Wednesday, the hashtag Fire Gina Carano was trending following that Instagram post.

00:13:13.000 The post has since been deleted.

00:13:15.000 Screenshots were widely shared by users on social media who called for her firing from the hit Disney Plus Star Wars show.

00:13:20.000 Now, again, she deleted the post.

00:13:22.000 So it's not even like she left it up.

00:13:23.000 She deleted the post.

00:13:24.000 And that's still not enough, because that's the way that this works.

00:13:26.000 The minute that you delete the post, it's not as though absolution is granted to you.

00:13:29.000 It's not as though, oh, you know what?

00:13:30.000 I was overwrought.

00:13:31.000 That was a mistake.

00:13:31.000 I took it down.

00:13:32.000 Nope. 0.99

00:13:33.000 This is just an excuse to beat the living hell out of you.

00:13:36.000 According to sources, Lucasfilm planned to unveil Carano as a star of her own Disney Plus series during a December Investors Day presentation, but scrapped those plans following her November tweet, in which she suggested that we ought to protect against voter fraud, and also in which she suggested that the media were essentially blinding you to some things that were true.

00:13:54.000 Multiple Mandalorian spinoffs are in the works from executive producers Jon Favreau and Dave Filoni, including Rangers of the New Republic, which could have potentially starred Carano.

00:14:02.000 After the latest round of social media posts, the decision to cut ties with the actor came swiftly. 0.92

00:14:06.000 There is a damned shocker. 0.82

00:14:07.000 There is an unbelievable shocker. 0.98

00:14:09.000 So it is not a shocker at all, of course, but it is indicative of the world in which we live.

00:14:14.000 And everybody knows that they are on the hook for this.

00:14:17.000 This is the prevailing wind of our culture right now.

00:14:20.000 If your corporation, the one that hires you, finds out that 10 years ago you posted something that is now out of fashion.

00:14:28.000 Let's say that back in 2008, for example, you supported traditional marriage in the state of California, and that comes out now in 2021.

00:14:34.000 You could lose your job.

00:14:36.000 Why do I say that?

00:14:36.000 Because that's exactly what happened to Brandon Eich, who is the CEO of Mozilla Firefox.

00:14:40.000 That happened just a few years ago when he held the exact same position on Proposition 8 that a man named Barack Obama did at the time.

00:14:48.000 The attempt to cancel anyone and everyone, because the standards are constantly shifting and constantly moving, but really only people on one side of the aisle, is ongoing.

00:14:57.000 Another person who is currently being canceled, and his apologies are not gonna matter, is Morgan Wallen.

00:15:02.000 So Morgan Wallen is this country star, this massive country star.

00:15:05.000 He shared a video on Wednesday in which he apologized for being caught on tape being a drunk, basically, and yelling at one of his friends, the N-word.

00:15:16.000 Now, was he actually using the n-word as a way of denigrating black people, or was he using it the same way that rappers use the n-word?

00:15:23.000 I know that we're supposed to strip intent and context from all of these conversations, but, um, he was not actually calling a black person the n-word because that is just blatant racism.

00:15:31.000 Instead, he was using it the same way that rappers use the n-word.

00:15:34.000 Right?

00:15:35.000 He was just saying drunkenly to a friend blah blah blah blah n-word.

00:15:37.000 Okay, that is not good.

00:15:38.000 I don't like the use of the n-word.

00:15:39.000 Period.

00:15:39.000 End of story.

00:15:41.000 Right, I don't say it in my life.

00:15:43.000 I won't accept people in my life who say it to me or with me, in my presence.

00:15:48.000 That's not something that is cool.

00:15:49.000 Okay, but is that a cancelable offense?

00:15:53.000 That he said a thing, a bad word, to a person who was not black in non-racist fashion?

00:16:00.000 That's not the same thing as calling a black person the N-word.

00:16:02.000 In any case, he apologized for it.

00:16:03.000 Is that gonna buy him any sort of love?

00:16:04.000 Of course not. 1.00

00:16:05.000 By the way, his neighbor who filmed this thing and then put it online for the lols, is a jackass. 0.97

00:16:11.000 And if you're sitting around being the Stasi for the woke culture so that you can just tape people who are drunken celebrities saying things that you don't particularly like so you can get them canceled, this makes you the bad person. 0.95

00:16:23.000 Doesn't mean what he said was appropriate.

00:16:25.000 It does mean that you are not any arbiter of virtue if your entire life revolves around taking out your phone and taping people doing things in drunken states.

00:16:36.000 Seriously, this is the culture that we have become.

00:16:39.000 Okay, so Morgan Wallen issued an apology.

00:16:41.000 He said, the video you saw was of me on hour 72 of a bender.

00:16:44.000 That's not something I'm proud of.

00:16:45.000 Obviously, the natural thing is to apologize further and just continue to apologize, but because you got caught, and that's not what I wanted to do.

00:16:51.000 And he said he was aware that he had let people down, including his parents and his son.

00:16:55.000 And then he explained that he has accepted invitations from black organizations, executives, and leaders to have open and honest conversations.

00:17:01.000 They offered me grace.

00:17:02.000 They also paired that with an offer to learn and to grow.

00:17:04.000 You think that's gonna work for Morgan Wallen?

00:17:06.000 Apparently it only works with people who are of the left, right?

00:17:09.000 If you're of the left and you say anti-semitic or anti-white, like Nick Cannon still has his job. 0.99

00:17:13.000 Nick Cannon essentially suggested that white people are monsters. 0.97

00:17:16.000 And he still is going to be having his job at the end of the day. 0.99

00:17:21.000 Ice-T has said wildly anti-semitic stuff.

00:17:23.000 That dude's going to have a job.

00:17:24.000 So the sort of The willingness to allow people a second chance again only extends to one side of the aisle, not to the other side of the aisle, because presumably, Morgan Wallen is perceived as right-wing even if he is not, because he's a country singer.

00:17:40.000 That is the way that things work nowadays.

00:17:43.000 This is not an argument that people aren't saying things that are wrong.

00:17:45.000 It's not an argument that Gina Caron's original post was great.

00:17:48.000 It's not an argument that Morgan Wallen should be using the N-word with his friends.

00:17:51.000 None of that is true.

00:17:51.000 The question is, are these offenses that should deprive people of their livelihoods and careers?

00:17:55.000 And the answer, of course, is no.

00:17:57.000 It's no.

00:17:59.000 And if you're part of the culture that suggests that people should lose their livelihood and their career over this, you are part of the problem in the United States, and you're making the country worse.

00:18:04.000 You're making the country much worse.

00:18:06.000 You are not going to people quietly and saying, in an effort to better the conversation, you know, maybe you should take that down because that's kind of inappropriate, or maybe that's a bad idea, or maybe that's overwrought.

00:18:15.000 Instead, you are trying to ruin their lives because they said something that you disagree with.

00:18:19.000 This is not about bettering the culture.

00:18:21.000 It is not about making the country a better place.

00:18:22.000 It is about you and your unearned moral superiority.

00:18:25.000 Because guess what?

00:18:27.000 I promise you, I promise you, that if anybody spent half a moment searching the social media feeds of the bosses over at Disney Plus, or the lower downs over at The Mandalorian, or any of the actors over at The Mandalorian, they could come up with stuff that's twice as bad as anything Corona's ever said.

00:18:40.000 And if they searched all of the recording industry executives' social media feeds and emails over the past few years, they could find stuff that they've said that is significantly worse and more damaging than anything Morgan Wallen said.

00:18:50.000 That is the way our culture works right now.

00:18:53.000 Alrighty, in just a second, we're gonna get to more of this than we'll get to everything impeachment-related.

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00:20:06.000 Here's the thing.

00:20:07.000 None of this is done in good faith.

00:20:08.000 None of this is about good faith making the country a better place.

00:20:10.000 You know how I can tell?

00:20:11.000 Because every two weeks or so, Chris Pratt trends.

00:20:13.000 Chris Pratt trends on Twitter every two weeks or so.

00:20:15.000 Not because he's done anything or said anything.

00:20:17.000 Every time he trends, I click on it to see, did they finally catch Chris Pratt, right?

00:20:22.000 That's not what it is.

00:20:23.000 It's that people are trending Chris Pratt because they know that Chris Pratt is a Christian.

00:20:26.000 And because he is a Christian, they suspect that he holds unpalatable social issues views.

00:20:32.000 And this means that if they can preemptively cancel Chris Pratt, they will.

00:20:35.000 I promise.

00:20:36.000 It's a real thing. 0.96

00:20:37.000 He trends every couple of weeks on Twitter for no reason other than so they can say that Chris Evans is kind of a jerk, but that Chris Evans is a wonderful, wonderful human being because he holds all the right left-wing views and Chris Pratt is super bad, right? 0.97

00:20:50.000 Chris Pratt is the worst Chris, is the way that they put it. 0.96

00:20:52.000 Why?

00:20:53.000 Because of his social viewpoint.

00:20:55.000 There is no honesty here.

00:20:57.000 They would try to cancel Chris Pratt the same today as they would tomorrow.

00:21:00.000 It's just a question of whether there is a hook that they can hang their hat on.

00:21:03.000 They're trying to do the same thing to Tucker Carlson today.

00:21:05.000 So Tucker Carlson is once again trending on Twitter.

00:21:07.000 And all of the boycotters are out there trying to cudgel advertisers into dropping his show.

00:21:13.000 And they're trying to do so on the basis of a monologue in which you discuss George Floyd.

00:21:16.000 What he said in the monologue is that George Floyd died of a drug overdose.

00:21:21.000 Now, I don't know whether George Floyd died of a drug overdose.

00:21:24.000 What I do know is that the Hennepin County Medical Examiner said that he had enough fentanyl in his system to kill a horse, and that if he had died in his house, then rightly it would have been ascribed to drug overdose.

00:21:33.000 Now, the Hennepin County Medical Examiner said, I'm not saying that the drug overdose killed him, but he did have an extraordinary level of fentanyl in his system.

00:21:40.000 So Tucker essentially paraphrased the medical report from the Hennepin County Medical Examiner.

00:21:45.000 That happens to be the same autopsy report, the official autopsy report, being used by the defense in the George Floyd case.

00:21:52.000 So Tucker cited that, and now people are going nuts online.

00:21:55.000 Maybe advertisers should pull because he's pushing a conspiracy theory.

00:21:58.000 Okay, the autopsy is not a conspiracy theory.

00:22:01.000 The autopsy is an autopsy.

00:22:02.000 You may disagree with that autopsy.

00:22:04.000 You should find some medical evidence that George Floyd did not die of a medical overdose, of some sort of drug overdose.

00:22:10.000 And by the way, even if he died of a drug overdose, that still does not mean that the officer in that particular case would not have been guilty of use of excessive force.

00:22:19.000 That's also a possibility.

00:22:20.000 I've said that since the beginning.

00:22:21.000 If you were going to go for a conviction in the George Floyd case, rather than grandstanding, the easy conviction is probably excessive force, not murder.

00:22:28.000 Because it's hard to prove causation in terms of murder when the person is suffering from what is pretty clearly excited delirium, begs to be pushed out of the car by the cops, refuses to sit down, they treat him decently for a while, and then finally, when his neck is knelt upon for eight minutes, which is a terrible video.

00:22:43.000 When that happens, it turns out that he doesn't have any damage to his trachea, for example.

00:22:47.000 Like there's certain realities of medical science that are going to be taken into account during the trial. So you can say excessive force without having said murder.

00:22:54.000 But beyond that, do you deserve to have advertisers boycott you because you cited a medical report in a contentious trial?

00:23:02.000 Is that the way that this works?

00:23:03.000 No.

00:23:03.000 Here's the deal.

00:23:04.000 They don't care what Tucker says on a daily basis.

00:23:07.000 They don't care what I say on a daily basis.

00:23:08.000 And they don't care what you say on a daily basis.

00:23:10.000 If they know what you believe, they're just waiting.

00:23:13.000 And all that is happening right now is they are just waiting.

00:23:15.000 They're waiting for the mousetrap to snap on you.

00:23:18.000 And snap your neck, politically speaking.

00:23:20.000 That is all they're waiting for.

00:23:22.000 It is not about an honest attempt to cleanse the culture. 0.83

00:23:24.000 It is not about an honest attempt to have a discussion or a conversation. 0.99

00:23:27.000 It is about, can we wrong-foot you so that we have an excuse to say that your entire career has been completely and utterly garbage and that you are a bad person? 0.97

00:23:36.000 And so we feel good in excising you from the body politic and Twilight Zone wishing you out into the cornfield. 0.73

00:23:41.000 That's all that's happening right now in the culture, and that is a big deal.

00:23:44.000 It is a big deal to you.

00:23:45.000 It is a big deal to me.

00:23:46.000 It should be a big deal to your company.

00:23:47.000 It should be a big deal to your friends.

00:23:49.000 That's the pressure that so many people are feeling.

00:23:51.000 By the way, right, left, and center.

00:23:53.000 Liberals feel this way.

00:23:53.000 There's a reason 150 liberals wrote a letter to Harper's Weekly decrying this sort of stuff.

00:23:58.000 This is not a right-left issue.

00:23:59.000 This is a left-versus-everybody-else issue. 0.98

00:24:01.000 This is a hard-left-versus-everybody-else issue, and the hard left is in control, and we are going to have to consolidate and fight back against it because it really is garbage. 1.00

00:24:07.000 It is garbage. 0.98

00:24:09.000 Okay, in just a second we're going to get to the impeachment trial, which continues and is ongoing. 0.98

00:24:14.000 Already here.

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00:25:27.000 Okay, so while all of this cultural battle is going on, Which, again, is making the country more deeply polarized.

00:25:33.000 We have this impeachment trial that continues.

00:25:35.000 So, the Democrats yesterday, they trotted out a bunch of tape, and the tape was essentially designed to elicit an emotional response, which, of course, it should.

00:25:42.000 It should elicit an emotional response when you see Congress people having to flee for their lives while a baying mob breaks into the Capitol building. 1.00

00:25:49.000 And we should look at that tape, because we should always look evil straight in the face.

00:25:52.000 It is evil to invade the Capitol building baying for Nancy Pelosi's blood.

00:25:56.000 It is evil to break into the Capitol building shouting, hanging Mike Pence.

00:25:59.000 These are evil things to do.

00:26:00.000 So it is important that Americans always look directly in the face of things that are evil.

00:26:05.000 Now, of course, what the Democrats were trying to do is make everybody feel a particular way, which you should feel, but make people feel that way not about the protesters and the rioters, really the rioters, not about the people who committed criminal acts, but about everyone on the right.

00:26:18.000 That's the actual goal here.

00:26:20.000 The goal here, because they know that they're not going to get an impeachment, the goal here is to actually smear everybody on the right with all of this.

00:26:26.000 E.J.

00:26:27.000 Dionne over at the Washington Post makes this absolutely clear.

00:26:29.000 He said the House impeachment managers moved efficiently on Wednesday to close off the escape hatches and back doors for Senate Republicans.

00:26:35.000 Quietly but passionately, they put the lie to the sham alibis that weak and cowardly members of the GOP are likely to invoke if they do decide to do Donald Trump's bidding one more time.

00:26:44.000 Those who vote to acquit the former president will now own it all.

00:26:47.000 The incendiary speech that made the nation's capital a killing ground, but also the months of incitement and lying that built up to the violence.

00:26:53.000 They will own the threats against elected officials who refuse to cheat on Trump's behalf, the attacks on black voters in big cities, the savage mendacity of his all-caps tweets.

00:27:01.000 Voting to acquit will mean joining in Trump's rejection of the democratic obligation to accept the outcome of a free election, and in his declarations, even before the voting began, that this was a rigged and stolen contest.

00:27:11.000 Okay, so this is the goal, right?

00:27:12.000 The goal is Everybody who thinks that Trump should not be convicted, after leaving office, by the way, for speaking in inflammatory and false language, which, again, is not a standard that could be applied to anybody in Congress.

00:27:26.000 People in Congress are constantly using inflammatory false language. 0.96

00:27:28.000 It happens all the damn time.

00:27:30.000 If you believe that that standard should not be the standard for impeachment, according to EJDL, and this means you agreed with everything Trump did, and that you agreed with the riots, That's the actual goal here. 0.98

00:27:40.000 Like, on a political level, that's what the goal here is.

00:27:42.000 I'm not saying that for every single congressperson that that is what the goal of impeachment is.

00:27:46.000 Some congresspeople legitimately feel like Trump abused his power and therefore should pay a legal price for that.

00:27:52.000 But what the media would like to get out of this is smearing the entire Republican Party and anybody who even tangentially associates as a conservative.

00:28:00.000 That is the actual goal here.

00:28:01.000 This is why you see CNN's Don Lemon suggesting that if you stand with Trump in any way, you don't get to say you stand with cops.

00:28:06.000 By the way, there's great irony in hearing from CNN lecturers on who stands with cops and who does not.

00:28:11.000 This is the same network that broadcasts Chris Cuomo comparing the riots to the Tea Party and asking if there was anything that suggested that protests had to be nonviolent.

00:28:20.000 The same network that is constantly suggesting that cops are systemically racist is now very angry at Trump supporters who didn't support the riots and suggest that those Trump supporters who didn't support the riots also hate cops.

00:28:30.000 Here is Don Lemon.

00:28:32.000 Blue lives matter, huh? 1.00

00:28:34.000 Law and order!

00:28:36.000 Law and order!

00:28:37.000 Blue lives matter!

00:28:38.000 Respect the flags!

00:28:39.000 Respect law enforcement!

00:28:41.000 Don't you dare even say that again! 0.58

00:28:45.000 If you can stand by after that video, if you can do that, I don't ever want to hear that again.

00:28:51.000 I don't want to hear that from you.

00:28:52.000 I don't want to hear family values from you.

00:28:58.000 I don't want to hear respect police officers from you.

00:29:01.000 Don't want to hear it.

00:29:03.000 Wow, this is very, very much objective journalisming here from Don Lemon.

00:29:07.000 The hot, sticky journalism getting everywhere right there.

00:29:09.000 That's serious journalism, obviously.

00:29:11.000 He doesn't want to hear it from you.

00:29:13.000 That's not viewpoint.

00:29:13.000 That's just journalism right there.

00:29:15.000 By the way, again, him saying that he doesn't want to hear family values from you if you don't support the riots, but also you think that this impeachment is a bad idea.

00:29:23.000 He doesn't want to hear family.

00:29:24.000 Like, I need a lecture on family values from Don Lemon.

00:29:27.000 A guy who in national print was hitting on waiters?

00:29:31.000 Okay, like... No.

00:29:34.000 No, I don't think so.

00:29:35.000 I'm not gonna... By the way, that is not a reference to his sexual orientation at all.

00:29:40.000 Anybody who hits on people publicly in front of other reporters is doing a bad thing and is gross.

00:29:46.000 So I think that Don Lemon lectures on family values and loving cops from Don Lemon.

00:29:51.000 Or ABC's Terry Moran, who says that... Hey, wait a second.

00:29:55.000 I heard that making Holocaust comparisons is bad.

00:29:58.000 That's what I heard like five seconds ago.

00:30:00.000 I heard it's a fireable offense to make Holocaust comparisons.

00:30:02.000 So ABC's Terry Moran, what do you think of Trump's relationship with the GOP there?

00:30:07.000 The way that Republicans just aren't going to budge, whatever the nature of this argument, whatever the nature of the facts, is because I think we heard it in these vivid videos that the Democratic House managers are playing.

00:30:20.000 Fight for Trump.

00:30:24.000 Not fight for America.

00:30:26.000 He has the Republican Party as a personalized power like we haven't seen.

00:30:31.000 It's a Caudillo.

00:30:31.000 It's a Caesar.

00:30:32.000 It's a Führer. 0.60

00:30:33.000 We don't see that in this country.

00:30:35.000 We do now.

00:30:36.000 Oh, it's like a Führer.

00:30:37.000 So now you're comparing members of the Republican Party to Nazis.

00:30:41.000 Wait a second.

00:30:42.000 I thought that you weren't allowed to compare Democrats to Nazis.

00:30:45.000 Right.

00:30:45.000 And I kind of agree with that.

00:30:48.000 But it's OK on ABC News.

00:30:49.000 Wait, hold on.

00:30:51.000 Isn't ABC owned by, wait for it, wait for it, Disney?

00:30:59.000 Why isn't that fascinating?

00:31:01.000 There is a newsman, Terry Moran, suggesting that Donald Trump is the Fuhrer, which makes the Republicans the Nazis.

00:31:08.000 He is on ABC, which is owned by Disney.

00:31:10.000 Have there been any calls to fire Terry Moran today?

00:31:12.000 No, I noticed there are not.

00:31:14.000 I noticed there are not.

00:31:15.000 How fascinating.

00:31:16.000 How riveting.

00:31:16.000 Why, it's almost as though there's no standard at all, except that if you're on the left, you're not canceled, and if you're not on the left, then you have to live in fear that you're gonna be canceled at any damned minute.

00:31:24.000 And that is the entire goal here.

00:31:25.000 That's the entire goal.

00:31:27.000 So in a second, I'm gonna show you the actual footage from the riots that was unveiled yesterday.

00:31:31.000 Because again, we should look evil in its face when we see it.

00:31:33.000 Two things can be true at once.

00:31:34.000 We should look evil in its face when we see it.

00:31:36.000 And also, there are people who will use any political opportunity in order to cast their political opposition as in league with that evil.

00:31:45.000 And that is wrong.

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00:32:50.000 Okay, so let's go through some of the footage that Democrats brought forth for the impeachment.

00:32:56.000 So some of this footage is absolutely stunning.

00:32:57.000 And it is, thank God, you know, thank God for Capitol Police.

00:33:00.000 Thank God for law enforcement.

00:33:01.000 It's a miracle that this didn't get any worse than it actually was.

00:33:04.000 So for example, there was video that emerged of Officer Eugene Goodman, who is sort of the hero of the day, leading Mitt Romney away from the rioters.

00:33:10.000 So he was walking down the hall and Officer Goodman, you'll see in this video, actually comes and turns him around.

00:33:16.000 passes Senator Mitt Romney and directs him to turn around in order to get to safety.

00:33:24.000 Okay, and then there's video of Chuck Schumer with security avoiding the mob.

00:33:28.000 That video is being shown by the Democrats as well.

00:33:32.000 Walking up a ramp.

00:33:36.000 Going up the ramp with his detail.

00:33:38.000 He'll soon go out of view.

00:33:42.000 And you can see, I believe, that one of those officers has their gun unsheathed on a holster.

00:33:47.000 And then you also have a video of Mike Pence being escorted out of the building.

00:33:51.000 So he was being escorted down the stairs and out.

00:33:54.000 He was actually trapped in the building during this thing.

00:34:00.000 And then they also showed footage of body cam footage of an officer being beaten by the mob.

00:34:06.000 I mean, it was truly terrible, right?

00:34:07.000 And we should look again for the fifth time.

00:34:09.000 Evil in the face. 0.93

00:34:11.000 These people who are beating up cops in the name of conspiratorial nonsense. 0.80

00:34:15.000 This is an act of evil.

00:34:16.000 What is happening right here?

00:34:19.000 Now, the case the Democrats have to make is that this is on Trump.

00:34:23.000 It's not on the people who engaged in the evil.

00:34:25.000 Really, it is on Trump, personally.

00:34:27.000 Now, there are two types of causation, as I've explained many times on the show.

00:34:31.000 There's but-for causation, which is the weakest form of causation.

00:34:34.000 But for X happening, Y would not have happened.

00:34:36.000 That sort of causation is very rarely used in legal circles.

00:34:39.000 It's especially not used with regard to incitement because it is simply too weak.

00:34:44.000 But for Donald Trump waking up that morning, this wouldn't have happened.

00:34:49.000 But for Capitol Police not being on the scene in time, this wouldn't have happened.

00:34:53.000 But for Donald Trump not being elected in 2016, this wouldn't have happened.

00:34:56.000 But for Barack Obama not being a polarizing president, this wouldn't have happened.

00:35:01.000 But for causation doesn't mean that you have legal causation that is sufficient to suggest that Trump is responsible for what happened.

00:35:09.000 So that is the kind of causation that Democrats have been relying on.

00:35:12.000 Because when it comes to, did Trump actually cause this thing?

00:35:16.000 In order for you to say that incitement is what caused this thing, you would have to have the normal standard is that he has to say, the normal standard is that you would have to say, go down to the Capitol building and stack it.

00:35:26.000 That's the normal standard for incitement.

00:35:27.000 Not, go down to the Capitol building and I will lead you in a march where we will peacefully and patriotically protest what is going on.

00:35:34.000 And this is the thing.

00:35:35.000 Do you really, like, I don't actually know whether Democrats think this.

00:35:38.000 I think some of them do, but I don't know why.

00:35:41.000 Do they really think that Donald Trump was desperate to watch people mob the Capitol building and try to kill members of Congress?

00:35:49.000 Like, do they really think that that is what Trump intended?

00:35:51.000 That was foreseeable?

00:35:52.000 Again, if that was foreseeable, then why exactly wasn't law enforcement on the scene beforehand?

00:35:56.000 We now know that the FBI had been briefed on this.

00:35:59.000 So, the unforeseeability of the event is what makes the event so shocking in the first place.

00:36:03.000 Nonetheless, the idea here from Democrats is that Trump is solely responsible for what happened.

00:36:08.000 Jamie Raskin, who's one of the House impeachment managers, Democrat of Maryland, who, by the way, did vote to, in 2016, challenge electors in the 2016 election.

00:36:17.000 He says that Trump incited the January 6th attack.

00:36:20.000 Here was Jamie Raskin making the case.

00:36:23.000 This case is much worse than someone who falsely shouts fire in a crowded theater.

00:36:28.000 It's more like a case where the town fire chief, who's paid to put out fires, sends a mob, not to yell fire in a crowded theater, but to actually set the theater on fire.

00:36:41.000 And who then, when the fire alarms go off, and the calls start flooding into the fire department, asking for help does nothing but sit back, encourage the mob to continue its rampage, and watch the fire spread on TV with glee and delight.

00:36:58.000 Okay, so again, the evidence that he was watching with glee and delight comes secondhand, courtesy of some sort of kind of hearsay reporting.

00:37:06.000 His argument here, which is that it's more like the case where a town fire chief paid to put out fires, sends a mob not to yell fire in a crowded theater, but to set the theater on fire.

00:37:13.000 But he didn't send the mob to set the theater on fire.

00:37:15.000 That's the whole point.

00:37:16.000 They keep eliding the part of his speech where he said peacefully and patriotically.

00:37:19.000 That does make a difference.

00:37:21.000 It does make a difference.

00:37:23.000 They keep citing the line where he says you have to fight for the country.

00:37:27.000 Politicians say fight for the country every single speech.

00:37:31.000 That doesn't mean that he's telling the truth over the past two months before the election.

00:37:35.000 He was not.

00:37:35.000 I said that over and over and over.

00:37:37.000 I said there's no evidence to back the suggestions that he's making.

00:37:41.000 That is not the same thing as did he tell people to go sack the Capitol building.

00:37:44.000 And that's the question here.

00:37:45.000 So really, here's how you can make this question a little more relevant.

00:37:49.000 Would Trump be impeachable if the Capitol riots had not happened?

00:37:53.000 Because I think the incitement charge is the weakest thing.

00:37:55.000 Would Trump be impeachable if all he had done from the election day from November 4th until January 20th is say over and over and over again that the election was fraudulent?

00:38:03.000 If he had just said that over and over and over again, would that have been sufficient to impeach and remove him from office and stop him from running for office again?

00:38:10.000 I think it'd be very difficult to make the argument yes.

00:38:13.000 Really.

00:38:13.000 I think it would be.

00:38:16.000 So instead, what you have to do is try and say that he quote-unquote incited the mob Which is, again, a very difficult argument to make in terms of causation.

00:38:24.000 So instead, what Democrats have tried to do is they try to say, oh, well, you know, the mob thought that he backed them.

00:38:29.000 That's why they did that.

00:38:29.000 OK, well, we don't judge whether it was foreseeable that your words are going to cause crazy people to do crazy things based on the word of the crazy people.

00:38:36.000 That is not the way that that incitement works.

00:38:39.000 People who go and commit acts of violence in the name of ideologies and people who have not encouraged them to do acts of violence, we don't take their word for it.

00:38:47.000 That'd be a weird thing to do.

00:38:48.000 Because I promise you this, if you asked members of Black Lives Matter who were going and burning down businesses whether they believed that Democrats backed them in this pursuit, I'd guarantee you a huge number of them would say yes. 1.00

00:38:58.000 Especially since people like Kamala Harris were tweeting out that you should bail them out of prison. 1.00

00:39:02.000 Bail them out of jail.

00:39:03.000 Anyway, here's Jamie Raskin trying to quote the rioters to the effect that Trump had incited them.

00:39:08.000 There were countless social media posts, news stories, and most importantly, credible reports from the FBI and Capitol Police that the thousands gathering for the President's Save America March We're violent, organized with weapons, and we're targeting the Capitol.

00:39:26.000 This mob got organized so openly because, as they would later scream in these halls, and as they posted on forums before the attack, they were sent here by the President.

00:39:37.000 They were invited here by the President of the United States of America. 0.90

00:39:41.000 Okay, except that the FBI knew in advance that they were coming to do violence and then the FBI didn't do its damn job, which they were supposed to do in the first place.

00:39:47.000 Now, if the Democrats have evidence that Trump stymied attempts to help, this is the rumor on the day, that Trump stymied attempts to help, that he actually said, do not send the National Guard, do not send the Capitol Police, let these people run rampage, that would actually be pretty damning evidence.

00:40:00.000 They haven't presented any of that yet.

00:40:02.000 And so far, what we have seen is they don't like what Trump said.

00:40:05.000 They think that what Trump said was inflammatory.

00:40:07.000 True.

00:40:08.000 But inflammatory is not the same as incitement.

00:40:10.000 And so you have people like Ted Lieu, another House impeachment manager, suggesting that essentially Trump tried to violently overthrow the government of the United States because he ran out of nonviolent options.

00:40:18.000 This is so far beyond what the evidence shows that it's very difficult to credit it.

00:40:22.000 There's only because all of these people stayed strong and refused President Trump that our republic held fast and the will of the electorate was seen through.

00:40:33.000 And at this point, President Donald J. Trump ran out of nonviolent options to maintain power.

00:40:44.000 I began today by raising the question of how we got here.

00:40:48.000 What you saw was a man so desperate to cling to power that he tried everything he could to keep it.

00:40:56.000 And when he ran out of non-violent measures, he turned to the violent mob that attacked your Senate chamber on January 6th.

00:41:04.000 Okay, that is such a wild exaggeration of Trump's actual agenda.

00:41:07.000 You know what Trump's actual agenda was?

00:41:09.000 Seriously? 1.00

00:41:09.000 Trump's actual agenda was that he was going to say a bunch of crap. 1.00

00:41:13.000 That was the agenda. 0.98

00:41:14.000 And that he would get a lot of people very riled up, and then he was going to announce, presumably on January 20th, the same day as the inauguration, that he was running for re-election.

00:41:21.000 That was, in all likelihood, what his plan was.

00:41:25.000 If you think that Trump unleashed a mob to go kill Mike Pence, that that was his intent, I'm gonna need some actual proof of that.

00:41:31.000 Like, seriously, some actual proof of that would be good.

00:41:33.000 Because here's the thing about Trump, he ain't subtle.

00:41:35.000 Like, in any way.

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00:44:14.000 So the Democrats continue to make the case that President Trump left them for dead, that President Trump is solely responsible for everything that happened, that the people who invaded the Capitol have no agency, and that they, not that they took his words too far, but that they were actually doing exactly what he wanted them to do.

00:44:34.000 Here's Representative Joaquin Castro saying Trump left us all for dead.

00:44:38.000 They were completely and violently overwhelmed by a mob.

00:44:44.000 and needed help, and our Commander-in-Chief, President Trump, refused to send it.

00:44:52.000 Senators, you've seen all the evidence so far, and this is clear.

00:45:00.000 On January 6th, President Trump left everyone in this Capitol For dead.

00:45:08.000 So what's the actual hard evidence that he did that?

00:45:10.000 I mean, really, beyond the sort of secondhand reporting that, like, what did Trump actually... I want to know, like, minute by minute, what did Trump actually do to stymie people being sent for help?

00:45:21.000 Was it his responsibility?

00:45:22.000 Like, did he call up the Capitol Police and say, don't send any more people?

00:45:26.000 Did he call up the National Guard or his Department of Defense and say, don't send anybody?

00:45:30.000 We've seen some reporting on this issue, but we've seen no confirmed reporting or any testimony on this issue, so now would be a great time to call witnesses, right?

00:45:36.000 I mean, if you're gonna call witnesses, those would be the witnesses that you would call.

00:45:39.000 But what the presentation was about more than anything else yesterday was rehashing a terrible moment in the history of our republic, an incredibly damaging moment in the history of our republic, The most damaging moment I've seen in 20 years in the history of our Republic, like really a horrible moment for the Republic.

00:45:55.000 And in doing so, to link everybody who disagrees with the Democrats impeachment agenda with this.

00:46:00.000 Because again, they could have brought up censure in the House.

00:46:02.000 Kevin McCarthy wanted them to, would have passed.

00:46:05.000 They would have, and they would have passed in the Senate.

00:46:07.000 But that's not what they wanted.

00:46:08.000 What they wanted was to lump, the goal here is obvious.

00:46:11.000 The goal here is obvious.

00:46:13.000 That doesn't mean that there aren't decent Republicans who can think the other way on impeachment from the way that I'm talking right now.

00:46:18.000 I hear it.

00:46:19.000 But I will say this.

00:46:21.000 If you think that the Democrats are in any way evidencing any sort of good intent or honest intent, or that this is about the protection of the legislature from the executive or anything like that, that's not what this is.

00:46:30.000 That's not what this is.

00:46:31.000 And we know that.

00:46:32.000 And we know that for certain.

00:46:35.000 This isn't, by the way, this is not going anywhere.

00:46:36.000 And everybody knows this is not going anywhere.

00:46:38.000 So we're going to pretend that a bunch of Republican senators are going to flip.

00:46:41.000 They ain't going to flip.

00:46:42.000 And that is perfectly obvious at this point.

00:46:43.000 Still, the media will go to people like Lisa Murkowski, who is certainly going to vote for impeachment and ask her what she thinks. 0.96

00:46:49.000 I will look to the evidence that is presented.

00:46:53.000 The evidence that has been presented thus far is pretty damning.

00:46:58.000 But I also know that I have an obligation, a responsibility, and one that I accept to listen to what the defense will present.

00:47:10.000 Okay, so we will see how this all plays out.

00:47:12.000 Trump's defense begins today, so we're going to see how they fight back against this.

00:47:16.000 I would assume that Trump's defense is largely going to center on the fact that Democrats are treating inflammatory rhetoric as incitement rhetoric.

00:47:23.000 And so I would assume that you're going to hear a lot about Democrats' inflammatory rhetoric over the past few years, and that is a perfectly appropriate response.

00:47:29.000 Because if we are going to have a consistent standard to which we hold people, then that standard ought to be consistently held.

00:47:35.000 Of course it is not, and that is the entire problem right now in the United States.

00:47:38.000 There are no consistent standards.

00:47:41.000 There are only double standards.

00:47:42.000 That is true on every single issue that I can think of right now.

00:47:46.000 There's a standard to which the media would hold people on the right, but not people on the left.

00:47:49.000 There's a standard by which the media would excuse violence, but only for people with whom they agree.

00:47:55.000 There's a standard by which the media would champion people who use the most inflammatory rhetoric possible, but only if they happen to agree with those people.

00:48:02.000 And then, they'll castigate anybody on the other side of the aisle for pointing out the double standard.

00:48:06.000 It's whataboutism.

00:48:07.000 So if I say, yes, it's very bad that Trump used inflammatory language.

00:48:10.000 Also, it is very bad, and I've been saying this for years, for Maxine Waters to use that sort of language, or for AOC to use that sort of language, or for Kamala Harris to use that sort of language, or for Ilhan Omar and Rashid Tlaib to use that sort of language.

00:48:20.000 If I say all of it's bad, somehow that's whataboutism.

00:48:23.000 No, that's called holding a consistent standard.

00:48:25.000 But they don't want a consistent standard.

00:48:26.000 That is the entire point.

00:48:28.000 It's why it makes my job so easy.

00:48:29.000 Because all I have to do to point to the hypocrisy of the left on a daily basis is simply point to the fact that they excuse their own when they do something.

00:48:37.000 But if somebody who disagrees with them does the exact same thing, they look to end their career, they look to bring consequences, they look to lump you in with them, This is not the way that you build social fabric.

00:48:47.000 I'm not even talking about the impeachment now.

00:48:49.000 I'm just talking about the general, neutral standards that have to apply in an honest society.

00:48:52.000 We are not an honest society any longer.

00:48:54.000 We have moved way beyond that.

00:48:56.000 We are just a society in which we struggle over power.

00:48:59.000 And a society in which people just compete for power is a society that is not going to last very long at all.

00:49:05.000 And it's my fear that every single day, that particular phenomenon is growing worse and worse.

00:49:10.000 If people don't like it, they're gonna have to get together and they're gonna have to stand up and fight against it.

00:49:14.000 Yes, fight.

00:49:15.000 Not physically.

00:49:16.000 Not physically.

00:49:17.000 They're gonna have to fight against it because that's the sort of language we use in politics. 0.98

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We Are All Gina Carano | Ep. 1193

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