The Ben Shapiro Show - Weeping Toward Victory | Ep. 455

00:00:00.000 Senator Jeff Flake from Arizona says that President Trump is Stalin-esque in his approach to the press.

00:00:04.000 The Democrats continue to go bizarrely insane over President Trump's bleephole comments.

00:00:10.000 Plus, we may be about to find out what President Trump is like down there.

00:00:15.000 And I'm not talking about his hands.

00:00:17.000 Oh, God, no.

00:00:18.000 Please, God, no.

00:00:20.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:00:20.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

00:00:26.000 Yes indeed, the Daily Beast is now reporting that Stormy Daniels, she of the 180 IQ and the presumably large breasts and she's a porn star, she apparently had an affair with President Trump back in 2006 and now they are going to run a 5,500 word interview. 0.67

00:00:43.000 with her about her sexcapades with Trump.

00:00:46.000 We'll discuss the impact of this and just scream no over and over and over and then try to gouge out our eyes before this interview can come out.

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00:02:16.000 We begin with this just-breaking story that Stormy Daniels is now going to drop a long story about how she had sex with Trump in 2006. 0.99

00:02:25.000 And we're all supposed to act surprised over all of this.

00:02:28.000 The answer is no, none of us are surprised over any of this.

00:02:31.000 President Trump's character has long been known.

00:02:33.000 His latest wife, Melania, the first lady of the United States, is his third wife.

00:02:36.000 He was having an affair with her when he was married to his second wife.

00:02:39.000 He was having an affair with his second wife when he was married to his first wife.

00:02:42.000 So, no, none of this is particularly surprising.

00:02:45.000 Also, he obviously has a thing for models.

00:02:47.000 Melania was working for a modeling agency that I believe he ran at the time or that he owned at the time that they were married and posing in, shall we say, provocative ways.

00:02:57.000 And then he said that he married her specifically because he wanted to make other men feel jealous when he walked into the room.

00:03:02.000 So it's not particularly surprising that Trump apparently had an affair while Melania was pregnant with Barron in 2006.

00:03:08.000 So, InTouch Magazine has now run excerpts from an interview with adult film star Stormy Daniels, her actual name is Stephanie Clifford, wherein she detailed having this affair.

00:03:17.000 So, apparently, he approached her in a golf tournament in Lake Tahoe in July 2016, in 2006, rather, just four months after youngest son, Barron, was born.

00:03:28.000 He asked for her number and invited her to dinner.

00:03:29.000 When she arrived, he was wearing sweatpants, and they ended up eating in his hotel room.

00:03:33.000 Which is just a classy move.

00:03:35.000 I mean, that was my typical seduction move.

00:03:38.000 When I first met my wife, I showed up in sweatpants, looking like a homeless person.

00:03:42.000 And then I said, you want to go upstairs?

00:03:43.000 It works great.

00:03:44.000 She excused herself to the bathroom. 0.75

00:03:46.000 When she emerged, Daniels told InTouch that Trump was sitting on the bed and invited her to join him.

00:03:50.000 She thought, oh, here we go.

00:03:51.000 And then she went through with it anyway, because apparently this is what people do.

00:03:54.000 I'm completely bewildered by the sex habits of rich and famous people.

00:03:59.000 I know that now I'm somewhat rich and also somewhat famous, but I'm still bewildered by this.

00:04:03.000 This has not changed my view on how sex is supposed to work.

00:04:06.000 Apparently, according to the Daily Beast, the full unedited interview that will run later this week is 5,500 words of cray.

00:04:13.000 So we can all look forward to that. 0.99

00:04:14.000 Apparently she's going to drop full on explicit descriptions of the president's junk. 0.99

00:04:19.000 So this will make the second president in the last four about whose junk we know far too much. 0.99

00:04:25.000 So that's going to be very exciting.

00:04:27.000 I'm so glad that the media are on top of this thing.

00:04:29.000 Meanwhile, Senator Jeff Flake is right now taking to the floor of the Senate to rip President Trump over his treatment of the press.

00:04:35.000 I'm very disappointed because today, if you recall,

00:04:38.000 It was supposed to be the day when we were going to get the Fake News Awards.

00:04:41.000 It was supposed to be last week.

00:04:42.000 Then it was delayed until today, and now it has been downgraded to a potential idea.

00:04:45.000 So it turns out the fakest news was that there was a Fake News Awards.

00:04:48.000 That is not actually taking place.

00:04:50.000 But Jeff Flake took to the floor of the Senate.

00:04:51.000 Flake, of course, is leaving the Senate.

00:04:53.000 He was probably not going to win reelection.

00:04:55.000 He's probably going to lose his primary in Arizona anyway.

00:04:57.000 So he is leaving, but not before he throws a few brick bats at his fellow Republicans and at President Trump over his treatment of the press.

00:05:03.000 Some of this is earned.

00:05:04.000 A lot of it is Jeff Flake posturing.

00:05:06.000 Here is what Flake had to say.

00:05:08.000 No longer can we turn a blind eye or a deaf ear to those assaults on our institutions.

00:05:14.000 And, Mr. President, an American president who cannot take criticism, who must constantly deflect and distort and distract, who must find someone else to blame, is charting a very dangerous path.

00:05:28.000 And a Congress that fails to act as a check on the president adds to that danger.

00:05:33.000 The idea that Congress has not checked the president.

00:05:35.000 I'm wondering how they're supposed to check him when he says dumb stuff like fake news about things that are not fake news.

00:05:40.000 Now, we'll get a little bit later to actual fake news.

00:05:42.000 You know, how the media have covered, for example, President Trump's health. 0.87

00:05:45.000 The suggestion that he is demented, or that he is in the early stages of Alzheimer's, that he's totally crazy, or that he's about to die of a heart attack. 0.91

00:05:52.000 All of that's nonsense, and that was proved nonsense yesterday. 0.93

00:05:55.000 I don't

00:06:10.000 Where is this purported silence I'm hearing so much about? 1.00

00:06:13.000 I keep hearing there's silence when Trump says stupid stuff about the media. 1.00

00:06:16.000 Well, I'm not silent. 1.00

00:06:18.000 I know a lot of Republicans who aren't silent.

00:06:19.000 Democrats certainly aren't silent.

00:06:20.000 The media certainly aren't silent.

00:06:22.000 Jim Acosta certainly isn't silent.

00:06:25.000 Even when Trump just...

00:06:27.000 Even when Trump does something that's not terribly wrong to Jim Acosta, Jim Acosta is on CNN whining about it, the White House correspondent for CNN.

00:06:34.000 For example, this happened yesterday with regard to the media.

00:06:37.000 Here is Trump was being asked questions by Acosta, Acosta just won't shut up, and finally Trump says, get out to Jim Acosta.

00:06:44.000 Mr. President, did you say that you want more people to come in from Norway?

00:06:47.000 Did you say that you wanted more people to come in from Norway?

00:06:50.000 Is that true, Mr. President?

00:06:51.000 I want them to come in from everywhere.

00:06:53.000 Everywhere.

00:06:54.000 Thank you very much, everybody.

00:06:55.000 Just Caucasian or white countries, sir? 0.93

00:06:57.000 Or do you want people to come in from other parts of the world where they're people of color?

00:07:03.000 And not sure if you can hear the end of that there, Wolf, but as I tried to ask whether he wanted more people to come in just from white or Caucasian countries, he said, out.

00:07:12.000 He pointed at me and said, out, as in, get out of the Oval Office.

00:07:15.000 OK, and then he says, out.

00:07:17.000 He says, out to Acosta, because Acosta won't show up.

00:07:20.000 And then Acosta goes online and whines about it on Twitter.

00:07:22.000 Oh, he said, out to me.

00:07:23.000 Yes, I'm sure, Jim.

00:07:24.000 It was just like the journalists who are being jailed in China.

00:07:27.000 This idea that the media are being somehow

00:07:29.000 Stonewalled by the Trump administration.

00:07:31.000 It's the leakiest administration in American history.

00:07:33.000 And Trump loves the press.

00:07:35.000 I mean, he's talking to the press on a nonstop basis. 0.97

00:07:37.000 Jim Acosta playing the victim is just a little bit silly.

00:07:40.000 I think that the president should not say what he says about the press. 0.69

00:07:43.000 I've said that many times.

00:07:44.000 I've said it throughout the campaign.

00:07:45.000 I've said that the attacks on the fake news media

00:07:47.000 And just to finish with Flake, here's what Flake had to say about politicians attacking the press.

00:08:11.000 And so, we know well that no matter how powerful, no president will ever have dominion over objective reality.

00:08:20.000 No politician will ever tell us what the truth is and what it is not.

00:08:26.000 And anyone who presumes to try to attack or manipulate the press for his own purposes should be made to realize his mistake and to be held to account.

00:08:36.000 That is our job here.

00:08:39.000 That is just as Madison, Hamilton, and Jay would have it.

00:08:42.000 Listen, I'm fine with criticisms of President Trump that are earned.

00:08:45.000 Again, I think that Flake making a big deal out of Trump's attacks on the press.

00:08:49.000 Why don't we wait for like an actual Trump attack on the press that is worthwhile?

00:08:52.000 This is a pre-planned speech that he was announcing five days in advance how he was going to go after Trump from the Senate floor because Flake sort of wants to run for president.

00:08:59.000 It was bad timing for him because this is the same press that is busily going after Trump's health.

00:09:04.000 As I mentioned, White House doctor yesterday said there are no concerns about Trump's cognitive abilities.

00:09:08.000 He already had to stay at the White House.

00:09:09.000 I watched some of this press conference live.

00:09:10.000 It went on for like an hour.

00:09:12.000 Him just talking about the president's health.

00:09:13.000 Dr. Ronny Jackson, the presidential physician.

00:09:15.000 And the press just cannot believe that Ronny Jackson is giving Trump a clean bill of health and not declaring him a nut.

00:09:21.000 So I had no intentions whatsoever doing that, like I said, because I didn't feel it was clinically indicated.

00:09:26.000 And part of the reason I didn't think it was clinically indicated is because I've spent almost every day in the president's presence since January 22,000, you know, last year, when he got into office.

00:09:38.000 And I've seen him every day.

00:09:39.000 I've seen him one, two, sometimes three times a day because of the location of my office.

00:09:43.000 We have conversations about many things.

00:09:45.000 Most don't revolve around medical issues at all, but I've got to know him pretty well.

00:09:51.000 And I had absolutely no concerns about his cognitive ability or his neurological functions.

00:10:00.000 I was not going to do a cognitive exam.

00:10:01.000 I had no intention of doing one.

00:10:03.000 The reason that we did the cognitive assessment is plain and simple, because the president asked me to do it.

00:10:08.000 OK, so Trump took a cognitive assessment.

00:10:09.000 He scored 30 out of 30 on that, and the press couldn't believe it.

00:10:12.000 And in just a second, I'm going to tell you what the press did about it this morning, because it's just demonstrative of the fact that this is not a one-sided battle.

00:10:19.000 It's not just Trump taking on the press. 0.71

00:10:20.000 It's obviously the press also taking on Trump in some pretty ridiculous ways.

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00:12:07.000 Okay, so I was talking about Jeff Flake suggesting that Trump's attacks on the media are bad.

00:12:20.000 Yes, they are bad.

00:12:21.000 I don't like them.

00:12:22.000 And he said that they inspire dictators around the world.

00:12:25.000 Inspire is too strong a word.

00:12:26.000 The idea that the mullahs are sitting around Iran going, oh, now Trump attacked the press.

00:12:31.000 Wish I had thought of that.

00:12:32.000 Oh, now I must attack press.

00:12:34.000 I don't even know what that accent was, but I certainly don't know where that logic would come from.

00:12:38.000 So the idea that they're sitting around, Kim Jong-un is sitting around thinking to himself, yes, Trump attacked the press, now I'll be mean to the press. 1.00

00:12:46.000 Just stupid. 0.96

00:12:47.000 The idea that it emboldens people because Trump isn't going to stand up for press freedoms in other parts of the world, there's probably some element of truth to that. 1.00

00:12:53.000 But when Trump attacks the news, it makes it easy for him to attack the news when the media decide to be idiots. 0.97

00:12:58.000 As I mentioned yesterday, Dr. Ronny Jackson is the presidential physician, and he came out and cleared Trump on health. 0.99

00:13:03.000 He also cleared him on heart health.

00:13:04.000 He said that Trump has excellent genes.

00:13:05.000 He said the best genes, the greatest genes.

00:13:08.000 Here's Dr. Ronny Jackson talking about Trump's amazing genes.

00:13:12.000 It's called genetics. 0.70

00:13:13.000 I don't know.

00:13:14.000 Some people have, you know, just great genes.

00:13:17.000 You know, I told the president that if he had a healthier diet over the last 20 years, he might live to be 200 years old.

00:13:21.000 I don't know.

00:13:22.000 I mean, he has incredible genes.

00:13:27.000 Okay, so obviously the president wants the doctor out there saying that, which is fine.

00:13:30.000 There's all these conspiracy theories going around now about Trump's height and weight.

00:13:34.000 People are calling them girthers instead of birthers, because the health report suggested that President Trump weighs 239 pounds and is 6'3", and for years he'd been saying that he was 6'2", so apparently he gained an inch, and that inch sort of prevented him from being labeled as obese as opposed to overweight, as though it makes any sort of difference.

00:13:51.000 But here's the point.

00:13:52.000 His dad, I think, Fred Trump, lived to something like 93.

00:13:55.000 I believe, let me see.

00:13:58.000 Yeah, he lived till 94.

00:14:00.000 93, I was right the first time.

00:14:02.000 Fred Trump lived till 93.

00:14:04.000 Trump is only 71 now.

00:14:06.000 So just based on life expectancy in families, it'd be likely that Trump does fine, right?

00:14:10.000 That Trump lives fine.

00:14:12.000 So the doctor comes out and he says that Trump does not suffer from a heart disease.

00:14:16.000 Well today, Sanjay Gupta over at CNN

00:14:18.000 We're good to go. 1.00

00:14:41.000 Hope that he dies. 0.99

00:14:42.000 I mean, let's be frank about this. 1.00

00:14:43.000 There are a lot of members of the media who hope that Trump drops dead tomorrow of a heart attack.

00:14:47.000 Here's what Jackson actually said about Trump's heart disease.

00:14:50.000 He said he does not have heart disease.

00:14:53.000 And the question was, he had a CT scan before that showed calcium in his coronary blood vessels.

00:14:57.000 And Jackson said he does.

00:14:58.000 He did.

00:14:59.000 He had, technically, a non-clinical atherosclerotic coronary atherosclerosis.

00:15:06.000 And so that's been mentioned in previous physical exams he's had done.

00:15:10.000 He had a coronary calcium score done in 2009.

00:15:12.000 It was 34.

00:15:13.000 He had a coronary calcium score done in 2013.

00:15:15.000 It was 98.

00:15:16.000 And then we did get a calcium score from this one.

00:15:18.000 I didn't mention it because I think it was clinically good information.

00:15:21.000 It was 133.

00:15:22.000 So I had a conversation with the cardiologist, not only at Walter Reed, but at Cleveland Clinic and several other well-known institutions.

00:15:28.000 Everyone saw that as reassuring.

00:15:29.000 He's gone this period of time, and he's had that little of a change in his coronary calcium load.

00:15:33.000 So Sanjay Gupta says, well, he's suffering from coronary heart disease, right?

00:15:37.000 So technically he is, right?

00:15:39.000 So technically, pretty much everyone is.

00:15:41.000 He scored 133.

00:15:43.000 According to the WebMD cardiac calcium scoring chart, that means you have a moderate amount of plaque in your heart.

00:15:50.000 You have heart disease and plaque may be blocking your artery.

00:15:52.000 Your chance of having a heart attack is moderate to high, but it also depends on your age.

00:15:56.000 So if you actually go over to the multi-ethnic study of atherosclerosis, which is an actual study that you can type in your information like your

00:16:06.000 Age and your race and your gender.

00:16:10.000 When you type in 71-year-old white male and a 133 calcium score, that calculates that you are in the 46th percentile.

00:16:20.000 So you're basically around average.

00:16:22.000 That's kind of normal for your age, in terms of what you have.

00:16:27.000 Plus, Trump's calcium score has been stable over time.

00:16:29.000 In 2009, he was at the 47th percentile.

00:16:32.000 In 2013, he was at the 52nd percentile.

00:16:34.000 Today, he's actually at the 46th percentile, so he's actually doing better now than he was in 2013 by percentile.

00:16:41.000 In other words, his heart is not getting bad as fast as other people his age.

00:16:44.000 Their hearts are getting bad.

00:16:46.000 The media are obviously overblowing this and trying to make it seem like Trump is on the verge of having a massive heart attack, and they're suggesting that you use the eye test. 0.96

00:16:53.000 Okay, Trump is fat, Trump doesn't exercise, he doesn't eat well. 0.94

00:16:56.000 All of that is true. 0.98

00:16:57.000 It's also true that a lot of people who don't eat well and are fat and have good genes live till really old ages without actually having heart attacks.

00:17:04.000 It happens all the time.

00:17:05.000 George Burns smoked and lived till 101.

00:17:06.000 That doesn't say smoking is good for you, but it does suggest that not every average means that you are going to be the guy who has the heart attacks.

00:17:13.000 The media have made a huge deal

00:17:16.000 I've said before, I think that Trump does not have the character I would wish to see in the President of the United States.

00:17:20.000 But the media's attempt to recast Trump's health records as a real issue now

00:17:35.000 It's just insane, and that's one of the reasons why people don't take the media seriously when Trump attacks the media, which he does so often and so repeatedly.

00:17:43.000 So meanwhile, obviously, the S-hole controversy has now entered its sixth day, and this will not end.

00:17:49.000 I, again, hearken back to that time when the Obama administration, when President Obama specifically said about an allied Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, that he was chicken bleep, and that controversy lasted under 24 hours.

00:18:00.000 I remember because I was there and helped cover it.

00:18:03.000 The bleephole controversy continues because the media wants to portray Trump as a racist, and not only do they want him to portray him as a racist, they also want to use that portrayal in order to blame Trump for any breakdown on a DACA deal.

00:18:15.000 So, Trump yesterday came out and he sort of clarified his policy on all this.

00:18:18.000 He says, listen, regardless of what you think you've heard from behind closed doors, here is my policy.

00:18:22.000 I want a merit-based system.

00:18:24.000 The merit-based system is based on who is highly educated, who is highly skilled.

00:18:28.000 Now, there are a lot of people who are coming out and saying,

00:18:30.000 Well, a merit-based system is in and of itself discriminatory because there are people from different countries who are less educated, and Trump is really saying he wants white people because white people from European countries are going to have higher levels of education on average than, say, people from Haiti.

00:18:43.000 And who cares?

00:18:44.000 You know, three generations ago, my great-grandfather came here, and he had no education, and he did great.

00:18:50.000 Well, that's true.

00:18:50.000 I mean, three generations ago, my great-grandfather came here in 1907, and he did great, too.

00:18:54.000 He didn't speak the language.

00:18:56.000 I'm not sure his educational level was.

00:18:58.000 The difference is, there wasn't a massive social safety net and redistributionist network that was designed to pick up the slack for him if he failed.

00:19:05.000 The idea was that we were self-selecting better immigrants in terms of people who were entrepreneurial because they knew, you come here, you're not handed anything, and if things go wrong, you're basically on your own.

00:19:15.000 These are risk-seeking people who came over to the United States in an attempt to better themselves.

00:19:20.000 It's not the same thing as people who are coming over here for redistribution.

00:19:24.000 And even if you're saying people are coming here to better their lives, they're not coming here for redistribution, if you know there's a social safety net, that is going to change the level, on average, of people who are coming into the country, just the way you're going to change the clientele of your restaurant if you say that it's a hundred bucks a plate versus if you say all the food is free.

00:19:38.000 That's going to change who shows up for your restaurant.

00:19:40.000 There's a difference between a soup kitchen and a five-star Michelin rated restaurant. 0.84

00:19:44.000 So the idea that you can change how the United States works and not change the nature of immigration coming to the United States, which necessitates a change in the standard that you're using for immigration, is just silly.

00:19:56.000 So here's Trump saying, listen, I want immigrants from everywhere, but I want a merit-based system.

00:20:02.000 I just want to thank everybody for being here.

00:20:05.000 Did you say that you wanted more people to come in from Uruguay?

00:20:08.000 Thank you very much.

00:20:09.000 Is that true, Mr. President?

00:20:09.000 Thank you very much.

00:20:11.000 Thank you very much.

00:20:13.000 I want them to come in from everywhere.

00:20:15.000 Everywhere.

00:20:16.000 Thank you very much, everybody.

00:20:17.000 So the left should be jumping on that and saying, OK, well, there's Trump's apology, right?

00:20:20.000 If they're smart, what they would say is, we want a merit-based system, too.

00:20:23.000 And that's why what Trump said about Haitian immigrants is so terrible, because there are plenty of Haitian immigrants who'd be great here.

00:20:28.000 Instead, they won't say that because they don't want a merit-based system.

00:20:30.000 They do want to discriminate on the basis of country of origin.

00:20:33.000 It's one of the big problems.

00:20:34.000 And they continue to rip on the Trump administration as though the Trump administration is on the verge of deporting all the dreamers.

00:20:39.000 I know that's the dream of many of the hardliners in the Republican caucus and a few members of the sort of Ann Coulter Breitbart base.

00:20:47.000 But the reality is that's not what Trump is discussing right now.

00:20:49.000 Christian Nielsen

00:20:51.000 is the Secretary of Homeland Security.

00:20:53.000 And she was specifically asked yesterday in a hearing whether the Trump administration was looking to deport so-called dreamers.

00:20:58.000 These would be people who are brought here as young people through, quote unquote, no fault of their own.

00:21:03.000 And now they've been here for nearly their entire lives.

00:21:04.000 Here's what Nelson had to say.

00:21:06.000 It's not going to be a priority of the Immigration and Customs Enforcement to prioritize their removal.

00:21:13.000 I've said that before.

00:21:14.000 That's not the policy of DHS.

00:21:17.000 So if this doesn't get worked out, and I am a dreamer, the way I'm supposed to read what you just said is this is not going to be a priority of VICE?

00:21:25.000 If you are a DACA that's compliant with your registration, meaning you haven't committed a crime, and you in fact are registered, you're not priority of enforcement for ICE should the program end.

00:21:35.000 OK, so what she's saying is basically DACA is going to remain in place even if Congress doesn't do anything about it, which suggests that the two sides are really not that far apart on this thing.

00:21:43.000 Republicans just want some of Trump's immigration priorities put in place, but Democrats have no interest in providing that because, in all likelihood, we're not going to deport these folks in any case.

00:21:52.000 So why are the media going so nuts over this?

00:21:54.000 Why are they going so nuts over the bleephole comment when the policy is basically so consistent?

00:21:58.000 When it appears that nothing really is going to change?

00:22:01.000 Because obviously they're trying to get the Republicans to cave on all of their political priorities.

00:22:04.000 And I'm going to show you how that's the case in just a second.

00:22:07.000 Plus, Cory Booker just loses his mind.

00:22:09.000 I mean, absolutely loses his mind.

00:22:12.000 It's the greatest case of acting since John Lovett.

00:22:14.000 I mean, it's acting!

00:22:15.000 It's amazing.

00:22:17.000 And I haven't been this moved by a piece of acting that I've seen recently since Tommy Wiseau.

00:22:22.000 It's just incredible.

00:22:23.000 So we'll get to that in just a second.

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00:23:46.000 So the question is, Trump is signaling he wants a merit-based system.

00:23:49.000 And put aside the bleephole comments, because those happened a week ago, and in news cycle speak, that's basically...

00:23:55.000 News cycle speak is sort of like dog years.

00:23:58.000 Every week is seven years in news cycle speak.

00:24:00.000 So in news cycle speak, this happened a long time ago, but we're still talking about it.

00:24:03.000 Why are the Democrats still keeping it alive?

00:24:05.000 Because they're more interested in using it as a club to beat Trump than actually coming to some sort of agreement over DACA.

00:24:10.000 So here's the DHS secretary yesterday testifying in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee, I believe.

00:24:17.000 And she says she's not going to talk about these comments. 0.99

00:24:19.000 And then Democrats lose their freaking minds. 0.62

00:24:23.000 At any point in that conversation on Thursday, did the President of the United States use that four-letter word, begin with S, in combination with any other words or alone that you heard? 0.97

00:24:37.000 Sir, respectfully, I have answered this.

00:24:39.000 I've been very patient with this line of questioning.

00:24:41.000 I am here to tell you about the threats our country faces and the needs and authorities that are needed by the Department of Homeland Security.

00:24:49.000 I have nothing further to say about a meeting that happened over a week ago.

00:24:52.000 I'd like to move forward and discuss ways in which we can protect our country. 0.95

00:24:56.000 OK, and this prompts the Democrats to just go nuts. 0.86

00:24:58.000 So Kamala Harris, our awful, awful senator from the state of California, she suggests that the secretary herself might be a racist, because this is what we're going to do now. 0.96

00:25:07.000 We're just going to race bait all the way till the end. 0.72

00:25:10.000 Again, I thought Trump's comments were at best ill-advised and at worst reeked of racism.

00:25:15.000 I think there's a plausible interpretation that does not have anything to do with race.

00:25:18.000 I think that, in my opinion, that may be the slightly more plausible interpretation, but 0.96

00:25:22.000 The idea that the Secretary is racist is insane. 0.60

00:25:25.000 It doesn't matter. 0.73

00:25:25.000 She suggests that the Secretary is racist anyway. 0.73

00:25:29.000 This is a pivotal moment in the history of our country.

00:25:32.000 Is it?

00:25:34.000 When we are having discussions.

00:25:37.000 About whether the people of Norway, and I will use your words, Madam Secretary, and you spoke about how they were referred to as, by contrast, to the people of Africa and the various countries, the 54 countries of Africa and Haiti, and we speak of them, and you've spoke of them, according to the President, as the people of Norway.

00:25:57.000 Well, you know, they work very hard.

00:25:59.000 The inference being the people of the 54 states of Africa and Haiti do not.

00:26:04.000 You must understand the inference, the reasonable inference, that the American public is drawing from the words you speak, much less the words of the President of the United States.

00:26:16.000 So now she's suggesting that Nielsen is a racist.

00:26:18.000 So everyone's a racist, right?

00:26:19.000 Nielsen is sitting there basically saying, I didn't hear those comments.

00:26:23.000 Maybe she's lying.

00:26:24.000 Maybe that's not true.

00:26:24.000 Maybe she did hear the comments.

00:26:25.000 It doesn't matter.

00:26:26.000 The bottom line is she didn't say anything in this hearing that was racist, but Kamala Harris is going to keep screaming racism so that nobody actually has to discuss what to do with the Dreamers. 0.98

00:26:34.000 The truth is that Trump does want to talk about the Dreamers.

00:26:36.000 Trump basically was willing to cut any deal that he could cut at the very beginning until a spine stiffener was put in him by Tom Cotton, as well as a couple of other senators.

00:26:46.000 But the Democrats lost their minds yesterday. 0.90

00:26:47.000 So Cory Booker just goes nuts. 0.92

00:26:49.000 I mean, he goes full on. 0.62

00:26:51.000 John Lovett's acting course crazy here.

00:26:55.000 I mean, Lisa's tearing him apart.

00:26:58.000 I mean, he goes ballistic, and he's bad at this.

00:27:02.000 I mean, really bad at this.

00:27:03.000 This is not even good acting.

00:27:05.000 He says he cried tears of rage.

00:27:07.000 Tears of rage. 0.98

00:27:08.000 I'm gonna talk a little bit about tears in politics in just a second because I hate this crap, but here's Cory Booker just putting on his Mr. Potato Head angry eyes in order to rip into Nielsen and Trump. 0.99

00:27:21.000 In an Oval Office meeting, referring to people from African countries and Haitians with the most vile and vulgar language, that language festers. 0.96

00:27:36.000 When ignorance and bigotry is allied with power, it is a dangerous force in our country. 0.97

00:27:44.000 Your silence and your amnesia is complicity.

00:27:48.000 Right now in our nation, we have a problem. 0.92

00:27:51.000 I don't know if 73% of your time is spent on white supremacist hate groups.

00:27:56.000 I don't know if 73% of your time is spent concerned about the people in fear in communities in this country. 0.57

00:28:03.000 Sikh Americans, Muslim Americans, Black Americans.

00:28:07.000 The fact pattern is clear of the threats in this country. 0.96

00:28:12.000 I hurt when Dick Durbin called me.

00:28:14.000 I had tears of rage when I heard about his experience in that meeting.

00:28:17.000 And for you not to feel that pain, and that pain, and to dismiss some of the questions of my colleagues, saying I've already answered that line of questions when tens of millions of Americans are hurting right now because of what they're worried about what happened in the White House.

00:28:34.000 That's unacceptable to me.

00:28:36.000 You're out of order!

00:28:38.000 I'm out of order!

00:28:38.000 This entire court is out of order!

00:28:40.000 Never go full Al Pacino and Injustice for All.

00:28:43.000 Never do it.

00:28:44.000 It's just not good.

00:28:45.000 And so Cory Booker, of course the left loves this sort of theatricality.

00:28:48.000 They love theatricality and deception, just like Ra's al Ghul. 0.91

00:28:51.000 They're totally into it.

00:28:52.000 They love Cory Booker.

00:28:53.000 Yeah, I mean, it is Tommy Wiseau-level acting.

00:28:57.000 It's the greatest acting I've seen since I saw this.

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00:29:16.000 I did not hit her.

00:29:17.000 It's not true. 0.99

00:29:19.000 It's bulls**t. I did not hit her. 0.98

00:29:21.000 I did not. 0.99

00:29:23.000 Oh, hi, Mark.

00:29:24.000 Yep, there it is.

00:29:25.000 Okay, there it is.

00:29:26.000 That's it, there it is.

00:29:26.000 There is your Cory Booker moment from Tommy Wiseau.

00:29:30.000 I did not, you did not hit me!

00:29:32.000 Oh, hi, Secretary Nelson.

00:29:34.000 Like, what is this?

00:29:35.000 What is this nonsense?

00:29:36.000 And all this posturing?

00:29:37.000 You think that really, you think, if you think Cory Booker cried tears of rage, first of all, man up, dude.

00:29:45.000 Cried tears of rage, you do politics for a living.

00:29:47.000 You know how many times I've ever cried about politics itself?

00:29:51.000 This many times.

00:29:52.000 Zero.

00:29:53.000 I do it every day.

00:29:53.000 I've been doing it every day since I was 17.

00:29:55.000 People say horrible crap all the time. 0.98

00:29:58.000 Not just about politics generally, but to me specifically. 0.99

00:30:02.000 And then Cory Booker talks about I get death threats.

00:30:03.000 Yeah, I've been there.

00:30:04.000 You know how many times I whined about that in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee?

00:30:09.000 Oh my God.

00:30:10.000 First of all, what does Secretary Nielsen have to do with death threats that Cory Booker received?

00:30:13.000 I'm going to have to hear the explanation on that one.

00:30:16.000 I'll also point out here that let's say, for example, that Hillary Clinton had been testifying in front of Republicans and they had started yelling at her the way Cory Booker was just yelling at Secretary Nielsen.

00:30:25.000 Suggesting that your silence is complicity!

00:30:30.000 Going full-on nutjob with the Pan's Labyrinth hands up here, right?

00:30:35.000 Ooh, I'm a moose!

00:30:36.000 That's basically what Cory Booker is doing there.

00:30:39.000 He does this insane routine.

00:30:41.000 Imagine that we're Republicans doing it to a Democrat woman. 1.00

00:30:43.000 Would the cries of sexism ever stop?

00:30:45.000 We're still hearing about, she persisted, because Elizabeth Warren wouldn't be quiet after she was told to be quiet by the rules of the Senate. 0.99

00:30:52.000 And then it was, oh, she persisted.

00:30:53.000 What a brave woman, what a brave woman.

00:30:55.000 But Cory Booker rips this lady up and down for basically doing nothing. 1.00

00:30:59.000 And you know, what a hero he is.

00:31:00.000 What a hero. 0.78

00:31:02.000 This sort of nonsense just makes me sick to my stomach. 1.00

00:31:06.000 It's really stupid, and it's really gross, and it's really opportunistic. 1.00

00:31:09.000 Cory Booker wants to run for president, so does Kamala Harris. 1.00

00:31:12.000 Maybe they'll have a cry-off.

00:31:14.000 Somebody call the ambulance. 0.98

00:31:15.000 I'm going to talk a little bit more about crying in politics in just a second, because I hate emotions as a general rule, and I particularly hate it when it comes to

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00:32:40.000 So, it used to be that in American politics, you weren't supposed to cry.

00:32:43.000 It was a sign of weakness to cry in American politics. 0.99

00:32:46.000 It showed that you were a wimp. 0.94

00:32:48.000 It showed that you couldn't handle the stress of high office. 0.96

00:32:51.000 Now, if you don't cry, you are considered not in touch with your feelings.

00:32:55.000 I like it better the old way.

00:32:57.000 I don't want my leaders to cry.

00:32:59.000 There are times, by the way, when it seems entirely appropriate for people to cry.

00:33:04.000 You see a wounded soldier.

00:33:06.000 You're in a situation where you see a suffering child.

00:33:08.000 These are times when you cry.

00:33:10.000 You're walking through a Holocaust memorial.

00:33:12.000 There are times where tears, I think, are not out of bounds.

00:33:15.000 But the idea that you cried when you heard because the president said that there are some bleephole countries, wouldn't that just mean tears of rage?

00:33:25.000 First of all, it sounds like a really terrible romance novel from Daniel Steele.

00:33:30.000 Tears of Rage with Cory Booker.

00:33:31.000 But let's go back to 1972.

00:33:33.000 So all the way back in 1972, there was a candidate for the presidency of the United States in the Democratic Party.

00:33:38.000 His name was Edmund Muskie.

00:33:40.000 Edmund Muskie was actually one of the frontrunners for the nomination.

00:33:43.000 He was the 58th Secretary of State under Jimmy Carter.

00:33:45.000 He was a senator from Maine from 1959 to 1980.

00:33:49.000 And he was considered somebody who was probably going to run strong in the 1972 election cycle.

00:33:54.000 So the polls for him were pretty good.

00:33:56.000 He was considered a frontrunner.

00:33:59.000 In 1970, he declared that he was going to run.

00:34:02.000 In the Iowa caucuses, however, George McGovern won.

00:34:05.000 And then, Muskie ended up going to New Hampshire.

00:34:10.000 And in New Hampshire, he made a statement.

00:34:13.000 His wife was being attacked in the middle of the—so he won the New Hampshire primary.

00:34:18.000 And then, his wife was attacked by the press.

00:34:20.000 And he made an emotional defense of his wife.

00:34:24.000 And in that defense, it looks like he was crying, right?

00:34:27.000 Here's what the video looks like.

00:34:29.000 Maybe I said all I should on it.

00:34:33.000 But he's fortunate for him he's not on this platform beside me.

00:34:45.000 Okay, so he was ripped up and down, right?

00:34:47.000 He was ripped up and down because he was supposedly crying here.

00:34:49.000 It turns out that that was actually just melted snowflakes, because you can see that it was snowing outside.

00:34:53.000 But the press reported, lying, that Muskie had broken down and cried, and that basically ended his candidacy.

00:35:00.000 That ended his candidacy.

00:35:01.000 So we used to have a country where if you cried about people attacking your wife, then that was considered wimpy.

00:35:07.000 Now we have a country where Cory Booker whines about how he cried tears of rage when he heard that the president said something in a behind-closed-doors meeting, and we're supposed to take that seriously.

00:35:16.000 By the way, Cory Booker is a serial fabulist. 0.98

00:35:19.000 Cory Booker makes crap up on a fairly regular basis. 0.98

00:35:22.000 There's a story from a few years ago where Cory Booker used to go around talking about T-Bone. 0.99

00:35:27.000 Okay, T-Bone was a fixture of Booker's unsuccessful 2002 May Oral Bid.

00:35:32.000 in Newark, and he used to talk about his friend T-Bone.

00:35:36.000 And his friend T-Bone was alternatively a drug pusher who had threatened his life and then sobbed on his shoulder.

00:35:41.000 According to Eliana Johnson, she's now over at the Washington Post, I believe, she was then at National Review, she says, the tale is one Booker admits he's told a million times.

00:35:50.000 But in Booker's mind, according to city councilmen, it's not so much the details of the story that matter, but the principle that these things happen, they happen to real people, they happen in the city of Newark.

00:36:00.000 T-Bone does not apparently exist.

00:36:02.000 So there was a Rutgers University history professor named Clement Price, a Booker supporter.

00:36:06.000 He told National Review Online he found the mayor's story offensive because it pandered to a stereotype of inner-city black men.

00:36:11.000 T-Bone, Price says, is a Southern inflicted name.

00:36:13.000 You would expect to run into somebody or something named T-Bone in Memphis, not Newark.

00:36:18.000 Price said that he was a mentor and friend to Booker and says Booker conceded to him in 2008 that T-Bone was a composite of several people he'd met while living in Newark.

00:36:25.000 The professor said that he told Booker he disapproved of him inventing such a person.

00:36:29.000 He said, if you're going to create a composite of a man along High Street, why don't you make it W.E.B.

00:36:34.000 DuBois?

00:36:35.000 Booker agreed that it was a mistake, and then Booker stopped talking about T-Bone.

00:36:39.000 He has never admitted, by the way, that T-Bone does not exist, but he has defended T-Bone's existence over and over.

00:36:45.000 This is not the first time, of course, that he fibbed.

00:36:47.000 In 2007, he described Newark activist Judy Diggs

00:36:51.000 As a potty-mouthed educator who was always called cussing out my mama, cussing out my daddy, and said she had died in a truly poetic way, reading to children.

00:36:59.000 The Diggs family was angry.

00:37:00.000 They came forward and they said that was a lie.

00:37:02.000 She died in her office.

00:37:03.000 And then Booker emphasized that he apologized and said that all of that was in bad taste.

00:37:09.000 And again, he's talked over and over about T-Bone.

00:37:11.000 He says,

00:37:22.000 Yeah, this doesn't sound stilted at all.

00:37:25.000 That's who Cory Booker is, and now he's being trotted out as a hero.

00:37:27.000 So this is the way we're going to do this.

00:37:28.000 Whoever demonstrates the most emotion, whoever demonstrates—I think it's true on the right as well as on the left—whoever demonstrates the most emotion wins.

00:37:34.000 I think this is one of the reasons Trump won the nomination, is because Trump does anger really well.

00:37:39.000 Cory Booker is not all that good at anger.

00:37:41.000 I mean, again, that acting job is really not good.

00:37:43.000 It's a really poor acting job, but it allows people on the left to feel that he is a cathartic

00:37:49.000 He is an avatar for what I'm feeling.

00:37:52.000 I'm feeling so mad and so angry and crying tears of rage that Cory Booker is just my guy.

00:38:00.000 How about this?

00:38:00.000 How about our politicians don't have to be avatars of your feelings?

00:38:03.000 It's the stupidest measure. 0.99

00:38:05.000 They say the most important measure in presidential politics is quote-unquote cares about people like you. 1.00

00:38:09.000 I think this is a stupid measure because the way that people measure caring typically is not what you do for somebody else, but how you feel about somebody else. 0.98

00:38:16.000 I hate intent-based politics. 1.00

00:38:19.000 I hate it.

00:38:20.000 I don't think that your intentions matter nearly at all.

00:38:22.000 I don't think your emotions matter nearly at all.

00:38:24.000 I think that what you do matters.

00:38:26.000 I'm of the Batman school of thought.

00:38:28.000 It's not what's under the mask.

00:38:30.000 It's what I do that defines me.

00:38:33.000 That's the school of thought that I apply to politics.

00:38:35.000 I apply it to life as well, by the way.

00:38:37.000 I'm an acts-based person.

00:38:38.000 I'm happy with people when I think they're doing the right thing.

00:38:40.000 I'm unhappy when I do the wrong thing.

00:38:41.000 But in politics, too often it's, oh, they care about people like me because they shed a tear.

00:38:45.000 Because I know that deep down, they care about my concerns.

00:38:49.000 How about we stop worrying so much about how people care and what they think, about their emotions, and we worry more about what they do.

00:38:55.000 If we did that, we'd have a DACA deal probably in the next couple of days here.

00:39:00.000 Meanwhile, the Democrats are never going to stop.

00:39:01.000 So, Dick Durbin will not stop.

00:39:03.000 He says that Trump says that we need more Europeans, we need more people from Norway.

00:39:08.000 Again, I find the ire from Dick Durbin over Trump saying that there are bleephole countries out there a little bit ironic, considering that he suggested back during the Iraq War that American soldiers were the equivalent of Nazis or the soldiers of Pol Pot from Cambodia.

00:39:21.000 But here is Senator Dick Durbin from Illinois.

00:39:24.000 But it was a long, far-ranging meeting about immigration in general.

00:39:28.000 Negative things were said about Haitians coming to the United States.

00:39:32.000 The president was talking, and I think this is a tell, if you will, we need more people from Norway, he said.

00:39:39.000 Norway?

00:39:39.000 They don't even take refugees in Norway, he said.

00:39:42.000 OK, well I'm glad that it was clear to him, but we're now a week out and nothing has changed.

00:39:47.000 Sarah Huckabee Sanders, I think, is right on this now.

00:39:50.000 We've wasted a week fighting over Trump's verbiage behind closed doors.

00:40:03.000 Why don't we actually get to the policy and then see if Trump actually wants to take in refugees from Norway but not Haiti?

00:40:07.000 How about that?

00:40:09.000 One of the rare times I'll side with the press secretary.

00:40:11.000 Here's what Sarah Huckabee Sanders said yesterday.

00:40:14.000 Look, I wasn't in that room, so I can go only off of what the individuals who were.

00:40:18.000 They said that term wasn't used, but that tough language was.

00:40:21.000 Look, no one here is going to pretend like the president is always politically correct.

00:40:26.000 He isn't.

00:40:27.000 I think that's one of the reasons the American people love him, one of the reasons that he won.

00:40:31.000 I think so.

00:40:49.000 We've wasted five days fighting over one word when we should be fighting over the people that are involved in the DACA program.

00:40:56.000 If Democrats really want to protect these individuals, that's who they should be fighting for, and that's what they should be fighting about, is figuring out a permanent solution to DACA.

00:41:05.000 OK, so it's the end of this I agree with.

00:41:07.000 Not the part where Trump is politically incorrect. 0.97

00:41:10.000 I always object to equating political incorrectness with just being offensive and silly. 0.89

00:41:17.000 But what she says at the end here is right.

00:41:18.000 Why are we still talking about this?

00:41:20.000 Why can't we move on from this?

00:41:22.000 You've already made your minds up.

00:41:24.000 You've already made your decision.

00:41:25.000 What do you want Trump to say at this point?

00:41:26.000 What you really want Trump to say is, I resign.

00:41:28.000 You're not going to get that.

00:41:29.000 What you really want Trump to say is, I was a racist.

00:41:30.000 You're not going to get that either.

00:41:31.000 So I guess we can keep just beating Trump about the ears on this comment, but it's pretty obvious what the agenda is at this point.

00:41:37.000 Meanwhile, in other news, there's more nonsense from the MeToo movement.

00:41:41.000 Feminists are freaking out, as I mentioned briefly yesterday, at Margaret Atwood, the author of the famed book, The Handmaid's Tale, which is not a very good book, but she's considered a feminist icon. 1.00

00:41:51.000 What did she do that's so wrong?

00:41:53.000 What's she done to piss off the MeToo movement?

00:41:55.000 Well, apparently, there was a piece that she signed about how a guy named Stephen Galloway, the former chair of the creative writing program at the University of British Columbia, was facing serious allegations and that those allegations were not being properly examined, that people were jumping to conclusions.

00:42:11.000 So Atwood pointed to the university's lack of transparency around the allegations and noted that Galloway had been asked to sign a confidentiality agreement.

00:42:18.000 She said, quote,

00:42:27.000 A fair-minded person would now withhold judgment as to guilt until the report and the evidence are available for us to see.

00:42:33.000 And she suggested this was like the Salem Witch Trials in that guilt was assumed of people who were accused.

00:42:37.000 A bunch of people on the left went nuts on this.

00:42:39.000 How dare Margaret Atwood call for due process? 1.00

00:42:42.000 How dare Margaret Atwood suggest that we may not have all of the facts?

00:42:46.000 The longer the MeToo movement continues with this, the worse it's going to be for them.

00:42:49.000 Because we all agree that rape and sexual assault are bad, but it is not out of bounds to suggest that we might need to see some evidence.

00:42:54.000 That in the initial phase, we can believe objective claims about what a man has done, but we need all the facts to come out, and we need to hear what the guy has to say about it as well.

00:43:03.000 But that's not what the MeToo movement apparently wants to do.

00:43:06.000 The Huffington Post has a piece that was leading last night about Aziz Ansari.

00:43:10.000 I defended Aziz Ansari a couple of days ago.

00:43:11.000 I've been defending him now for a couple of days.

00:43:13.000 Not because I think he's not a D-bag. 1.00

00:43:15.000 I think he is a D-bag. 1.00

00:43:16.000 But because I think that if there's any implication that he was sexually assaulting or sexually harassing this woman who came to his apartment, got naked, and performed sex acts on him multiple times before deciding she wasn't having fun, that maybe she might have been sending some mixed signals? 0.99

00:43:29.000 Is that a possibility?

00:43:30.000 Just like some mixed signals? 1.00

00:43:32.000 Honestly, I don't think it's particularly mixed when you get naked in a guy's apartment and perform oral sex on him twice. 0.99

00:43:37.000 That doesn't seem particularly mixed to me. 0.99

00:43:39.000 That's a pretty certain signal.

00:43:41.000 But apparently Aziz Ansari is supposed to be a mind reader.

00:43:44.000 So this article from the Huffington Post talks again about another story where a guy was not nice to a woman and how it made her feel used.

00:43:53.000 And we can't dismiss the Aziz Ansari story as Me Too movement run amok.

00:44:00.000 This writer says, Well, maybe that's because the culture that the feminist movement created has destroyed the notion of normal sex. 1.00

00:44:04.000 Maybe that's the problem.

00:44:06.000 And maybe we should start deconstructing that.

00:44:07.000 Okay, time for a couple things I like, a quick thing I hate, and then Bible Talk.

00:44:10.000 So,

00:44:28.000 Things I like.

00:44:29.000 This is a minor thing I like today, but I did enjoy it.

00:44:31.000 Orrin Hatch, who's going to be the retiring senator from Utah, he was in the middle of doing this questioning in the Senate Judiciary Committee of the Homeland Security Secretary, and he forgot that he was not wearing glasses.

00:44:45.000 And so this semi-hilarious moment ensued.

00:44:51.000 Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

00:44:53.000 I'd like to begin with

00:44:56.000 I've never worn glasses, so I don't know if this is a regular thing that people do.

00:45:07.000 I assume that it's relatively common.

00:45:09.000 But, a minor thing that I like today.

00:45:11.000 We don't have to go any further than that.

00:45:12.000 Okay, time for a quick thing that I hate.

00:45:19.000 So my state, California, leads the nation in poverty.

00:45:21.000 It doesn't matter we have a 13% state income tax.

00:45:24.000 It does not matter we have a 10% sales tax.

00:45:26.000 It does not matter we spend more money than any other state.

00:45:29.000 None of that matters.

00:45:30.000 All that matters is that California continues to lead the nation in poverty.

00:45:34.000 We are one of the leaders in income inequality.

00:45:36.000 We have a tremendous homeless problem.

00:45:37.000 If you drive around L.A., it does look like a bleep hole.

00:45:40.000 L.A.

00:45:40.000 has become very shoddy and run down, the city of my birth and where I've spent the vast majority of my life.

00:45:46.000 And that does have something to do with the city policy pursued by Democrats in city government, in the city council, in the mayor's office for years on end.

00:45:53.000 And what's hilarious is that people on the left continue to be puzzled by this.

00:45:56.000 How could it be that California is just terrible?

00:45:59.000 Hell, right?

00:46:01.000 The report suggests that one out of five residents, the LA Times says, one out of five residents in California is poor.

00:46:10.000 So California has fallen behind.

00:46:12.000 Our state's per capita GDP increased approximately twice as much as the U.S.

00:46:16.000 average over the five years ending in 2016.

00:46:18.000 But the income inequality has gotten worse because the people who are making money at the top of the spectrum are people in Silicon Valley, people in Hollywood, people in the finance industry.

00:46:27.000 But all the people at the bottom are failing.

00:46:29.000 Why?

00:46:29.000 Because it is very difficult to start a business and hire in California.

00:46:35.000 Regulations are really difficult.

00:46:38.000 There are 883,000 full-time equivalent state and local employees in 2014.

00:46:42.000 We have huge bureaucracy.

00:46:44.000 We have a housing crisis.

00:46:45.000 More than 4 in 10 households spent more than 30% of their income on housing in 2015.

00:46:50.000 That's because of regulations preventing new building in places like Los Angeles.

00:46:53.000 So you can't actually drive the market down in terms of housing.

00:46:57.000 All of this is what the people on the left wanted.

00:47:00.000 They designed this policy, and now they own it.

00:47:02.000 California is in bad shape because of progressive policies.

00:47:05.000 It is simple.

00:47:06.000 It is just that simple.

00:47:07.000 There is no more to it.

00:47:08.000 OK, time for a quick Bible analysis since it is Wednesday.

00:47:11.000 So I felt like this is one of the most moving portions of the Bible.

00:47:14.000 For all the people who talk about the Bible is sexist, and the Torah is sexist, and all these religious people are so sexist, this notion of how men and women are supposed to operate is more loving,

00:47:24.000 And more genuine, and more real, and more committed than anything that the feminist left has come up with.

00:47:30.000 And this was written at least 3,000 years ago.

00:47:33.000 This is written at the beginning of Genesis.

00:47:35.000 This is Genesis chapter 2, verses 22 through 25.

00:47:38.000 And the Lord God built the side that He had taken from man into a woman, and He brought her to man. 0.80

00:47:42.000 And the man said, This time it is the bone of my bones and the flesh of my flesh.

00:47:45.000 This one shall be called Eshah, woman, because this one was taken from Esh, man.

00:47:50.000 Shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife, and they shall become one flesh?

00:47:55.000 And then here is the key line, right?

00:47:57.000 Now they were both naked, the man and his wife, but they were not ashamed.

00:48:00.000 Why weren't they ashamed?

00:48:02.000 Why weren't they ashamed?

00:48:03.000 Because there's nothing shameful about sex with a person to whom you are married.

00:48:08.000 There's nothing shameful about the idea of becoming one flesh with the person who is your soulmate and who is flesh of your flesh.

00:48:14.000 There's nothing shameful about the person you have chosen to create a life with having sex with you or being naked in front of you. 0.76

00:48:19.000 Not only is there nothing shameful about it, there's something beautiful about it.

00:48:22.000 But the beauty of sex is lost when it just becomes a series of casual one-night stands or when sex becomes about a physical impulse rather than a physical desire to fulfill a spiritual impulse.

00:48:33.000 You got rid of commitment, you got rid of love, and now you're upset because everything's awkward.

00:48:36.000 Maybe it's because you made bad decisions about how your sex life was going to go and because society has made bad decisions to separate off spirituality and meaning and intimacy and closeness and love and commitment from the sex act itself.

00:48:51.000 Once man's desire to change how sex works prevails over the natural order, and the natural order is the idea that man and woman are supposed to be in committed relations in order to have sex with one another, right?

00:49:05.000 That's what the Bible is saying here.

00:49:08.000 Once that happens, you shouldn't be surprised when things go awry, and that's exactly what's happened, and that's why the MeToo movement, I think, is destined to fail, because they refuse to examine their underlying assumptions about what male-female relationships should look like, where the two sides owe something to one another, and therefore are not ashamed in the presence of one another.

00:49:23.000 Okay.

00:49:24.000 We'll be back here tomorrow with much, much more.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - January 17, 2018

Weeping Toward Victory | Ep. 455

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