The Ben Shapiro Show - What If Everybody Is Corrupt And Terrible? | Ep. 881

00:00:00.000 President Trump's ambassador to Ukraine turns on him, Trump says he's the victim of a lynching, and the media prove their leftist bona fides once again.

00:00:07.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

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00:00:24.000 OK, we have a lot of news to get to here today.

00:00:27.000 You know, you miss half a week and suddenly the world is new and there are all sorts of brand new news stories that you come back and you're really excited to talk about.

00:00:35.000 Or alternatively, everything is terrible and we have to talk about all the terrible things that happened in my absence.

00:00:41.000 So let us begin with impeachment, Gabe.

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00:00:46.000 We begin with the latest polling on impeachment.

00:00:48.000 According to Nate Cohen over at the New York Times, they did some polling on impeachment in six swing states, and what they found is that there are a lot of people who are sort of interested in impeaching President Trump, but not particularly interested in removing President Trump.

00:00:59.000 In other words, they kind of want to censure his behavior.

00:01:02.000 But by the same token, they don't actually want to see him removed from office.

00:01:05.000 We're a year out from an election.

00:01:07.000 According to Cohen at the New York Times, voters in the states likeliest to decide the 2020 presidential election support the impeachment inquiry.

00:01:14.000 House Democrats began last month, but a majority still opposes impeaching President Trump and removing him from office, according to a New York Times Siena College survey.

00:01:22.000 In the six closest states carried by the president in 2016, registered voters support the impeachment inquiry by a five-point margin, 50% to 45%.

00:01:30.000 But the same voters oppose impeaching Mr. Trump and removing him from office, 53% to 43%.

00:01:36.000 In other words, they are saying we have not yet seen enough evidence to suggest that Trump has done something so wildly out-of-the-box criminal that he deserves to be removed from office.

00:01:45.000 And as I've said before on the program, there are a few questions that have to be asked about impeachment.

00:01:49.000 One, was an impeachable offense committed?

00:01:52.000 Two, is that impeachable offense beyond that sort of offense that other candidates, other presidents have actually committed in the past?

00:02:01.000 Because to impeach, virtually every president commits at some point an impeachable offense because presidents routinely violate their oaths of office.

00:02:08.000 Presidents routinely overstep their boundaries according to the Constitution.

00:02:11.000 I mean, to take just a quick example, George W. Bush overtly stated when he signed campaign finance reform that he didn't think it was constitutional.

00:02:18.000 Well, he took an oath to preserve and uphold the Constitution of the United States.

00:02:23.000 It seems like a violation of that oath to then sign a bill you say is overtly unconstitutional.

00:02:27.000 But, was that really impeachable?

00:02:29.000 Not really, it was just a bad political move by President Bush.

00:02:31.000 You know, the fact is that presidents do things all the time that violate The powers delegated to them in Article 2 of the Constitution of the United States.

00:02:41.000 Barack Obama was droning American citizens overseas.

00:02:43.000 Controversial?

00:02:44.000 Yes.

00:02:44.000 Impeachable?

00:02:45.000 Probably not.

00:02:46.000 With all of that said, that brings us to the actual allegations of offense against President Trump.

00:02:53.000 And it seems like the American public at this point are saying, listen, we don't see allegations so damning that he ought to be removed from office.

00:02:59.000 Yes, they go to his fitness.

00:03:01.000 Yes, they go to whether President Trump is a good president or whether he's good at his job.

00:03:05.000 But overall, in today's political landscape, the American public tend to believe that everybody is corrupt and terrible.

00:03:11.000 And if everybody is corrupt and terrible, then by the logic of The Incredibles, nobody is corrupt and terrible. 1.00

00:03:16.000 The idea here is that if everybody is at sort of an equal plane of stupidity, corruption, and ineptitude, well then that means that no one should be singled out for stupidity, corruption, and ineptitude. 0.99

00:03:27.000 I really think that's where the American public are on this, and I think they've been here on this for quite a while, actually. 0.99

00:03:33.000 According to the New York Times, the survey depicts a deeply divided electorate in battleground states a year from the election, with the president's core supporters and opponents exceptionally energized and unified.

00:03:41.000 Yet at the same time, a crucial sliver of relatively moderate voters, 7% of the electorate, support the inquiry without backing Trump's impeachment and removal from office.

00:03:50.000 The findings suggest that public opinion has actually stabilized since shifting quickly against the president in late September.

00:03:56.000 It leaves American politics where it was for some time, deadlocked, with neither side likely to face severe political costs for its position on the president.

00:04:03.000 And you can see why this is, right?

00:04:04.000 If you're on the right, as we will see in today's show.

00:04:07.000 You look at the left, you look at the media, you look at the Democratic Party, which is filled with partisan hacks.

00:04:13.000 You look at the political landscape, where it seems that increasingly basic liberties are being violated.

00:04:20.000 And you say, at least Trump is standing in the breach.

00:04:22.000 And if we're going to get him on these kind of ticky-tack fouls, then what exactly is all of this nonsense?

00:04:27.000 It's obviously badly motivated.

00:04:28.000 On the left, Democrats are saying, OK, well, Trump is something completely out of the box, something completely new.

00:04:33.000 He is running roughshod over the niceties of the office. 0.90

00:04:36.000 And while we can't exactly get him on criminal conduct, he is so just—he's so wild and so crazy and so—he's not normal, right? 0.79

00:04:43.000 That's the sort of phraseology they use.

00:04:45.000 Not normal.

00:04:46.000 And thus he must be removed from office.

00:04:47.000 And people in the middle seem to be kind of like, well, Everything both of you guys are saying are true, and so we have an election in like a year.

00:04:54.000 So we could probably just do that.

00:04:56.000 That seems like where things stand.

00:04:57.000 Now, we'll get to the testimony that Democrats are hoping shift things in just one second.

00:05:01.000 That'd be the testimony of Ambassador William Taylor, Bill Taylor.

00:05:04.000 It was given yesterday, behind closed doors, in front of the House Intelligence Committee.

00:05:10.000 And it is not good for President Trump.

00:05:12.000 It is also not completely damning of President Trump in one particular way, which I will explain.

00:05:18.000 We'll get to that in just one second.

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00:07:02.000 Okay, so.

00:07:03.000 Today was a statement by Ambassador William Taylor.

00:07:07.000 Ambassador Taylor was the interim ambassador to Ukraine.

00:07:10.000 And we know about him because we saw him involved in text message exchanges with other members of the Trump administration, including Gordon Sondland, who is Trump's ambassador to the United Nations, and Kurt Volker, who is the special envoy to Ukraine.

00:07:23.000 And there are all these text messages in which Taylor kept saying, guys, This looks an awful lot like President Trump is withholding military aid to Ukraine in order to get Joe Biden.

00:07:31.000 Well, as we will see from his testimony, he basically is sort of reiterating and clarifying what everybody already knew, which is that Trump was very concerned about 2016 election interference by Ukrainian sources, which Again, if he believes that that is what was happening, it would be a legitimate thing to try to get to the bottom of it after Democrats spent two years trying to investigate Russian election interference in the 2016 election.

00:07:53.000 And as part of that, Trump claims, that has to do with Burisma, it has to do with this natural oil and gas company that put Hunter Biden on its board, and he wanted all of this investigated as an investigation into corruption more broadly.

00:08:08.000 Taylor is going to claim that all of this was really sort of a get Joe Biden effort.

00:08:12.000 Now, that distinction is crucial, because if it was a get Joe Biden effort, if it was really just Trump trying to trump up charges against an American citizen in order to knock him out of a presidential race by using foreign military aid, then that would be impeachable, pretty obviously.

00:08:25.000 If, however, this was all just Trump saying, I want to fight corruption in Ukraine.

00:08:29.000 And by corruption, I mean A, B, C, D, Burisma, E, F, G. That's a little bit of a different story.

00:08:35.000 And it seems more like the latter than the former, but Taylor's testimony is damaging to Trump and damaging to other members of the administration.

00:08:44.000 So in his testimony, he talks about a wide variety of members of the administration who seem to be going along with Trump's kind of weird ideas about Ukraine.

00:08:52.000 I say weird because there wasn't a lot of evidence to back the idea that Ukraine interfered in the 2016 election via crowd strike.

00:08:58.000 There's good evidence to suggest that the Ukrainian government was working with Hillary Clinton to dig up dirt on Trump.

00:09:04.000 That was reported by Politico in 2017.

00:09:05.000 So that's nothing new.

00:09:07.000 I mean, that's stuff we already know publicly.

00:09:09.000 But if we're talking about Hunter Biden and Joe Biden and Burisma, there are not a lot of evidentiary suggestions that Joe Biden was specifically manipulating Ukrainian policy in order to benefit his son Hunter.

00:09:20.000 It looks more like Hunter has been spending his life riding daddy's coattails.

00:09:23.000 Which, as it turns out, is a frequent practice in politics.

00:09:26.000 Children of famous politicians riding their coattails to glory.

00:09:29.000 That sort of thing happens a lot.

00:09:31.000 Some in more corrupt ways, and some in less corrupt ways.

00:09:34.000 Just because you're a kid of a politician doesn't mean that your success is due to the politician.

00:09:38.000 At the same time, if you're Hunter Biden and you've got no qualifications for anything, and you're being paid 50 grand a month to sit on the board of a company because your last name is Biden, it doesn't smack of exact honesty from Hunter Biden in any case.

00:09:51.000 Bill Taylor testified in front of Congress today.

00:09:54.000 He says, ambassador to Ukraine from 2006 to 2009, having been nominated by George W. Bush.

00:10:19.000 And he said that he had remained engaged in Ukraine, frequently visiting since 2013.

00:10:25.000 He's obviously very pro-Ukraine versus Russian aggression outside.

00:10:29.000 He supported stronger American sanctions against Russia.

00:10:34.000 He said he considered saying yes.

00:10:35.000 His wife didn't want him to because she felt that the Trump administration was just not a good place to serve.

00:10:43.000 He says,

00:11:10.000 He was the interim ambassador to Ukraine.

00:11:13.000 So he returns to Kiev and he says as soon as he got there, he, quote, discovered a weird combination of encouraging, confusing and ultimately alarming circumstances.

00:11:22.000 So he talks about how he was hopeful about President Zelensky fighting corruption.

00:11:26.000 He said, He said, He He said this is the regular channel.

00:11:46.000 At the same time, there was an irregular, informal channel of U.S.

00:11:49.000 policymaking with regard to Ukraine, one which included then-Special Envoy Kurt Volker, Ambassador Sundlund, Secretary of Energy Rick Perry, and as I subsequently learned, Rudy Giuliani.

00:11:59.000 I was clearly in the regular channel, but I was also included in the irregular channel.

00:12:04.000 He says the irregular channel began when Ambassador Volker, Ambassador Sundlund, Perry, and Senator Ron Johnson briefed Trump on May 23rd upon their return from Zelensky's inauguration.

00:12:13.000 The delegation returned to Washington enthusiastic about the new Ukrainian president, but President Trump did not share their enthusiasm for a meeting with Mr. Zelensky.

00:12:23.000 He says, "When I first arrived in Kiev in June and July, the actions of both the regular and the irregular channels of foreign policy served the same goal: a U.S.-Ukraine partnership.

00:12:30.000 But by August, all of this was diverging." He says that, "On June 27th, Ambassador Sumblin told me during a phone conversation that President Zelensky needed to make clear to President Trump that he, President Zelensky, was not standing in the way of investigations." And he didn't know, Taylor didn't know, what exactly this was supposed to mean.

00:12:51.000 He didn't understand what exactly were the investigations that he was supposed to get to the bottom of.

00:12:56.000 He said it was not clear to me on that call what this meant.

00:12:58.000 But Ambassador Volcker noted he would relay that President Trump wanted to see rule of law, transparency, but also specifically cooperation on investigations to, quote, get to the bottom of things.

00:13:07.000 He says he reported on this call to Deputy Assistant Secretary of State George Kent, who had responsibility for Ukraine.

00:13:13.000 He said, By mid-July, it was becoming clear to me that the meeting President Zelensky wanted with Trump was conditioned on the investigations of Burisma and alleged Ukrainian interference in the 2016 US elections.

00:13:24.000 It was also clear that this condition was driven by the irregular policy channel I had come to understand was guided by Giuliani.

00:13:29.000 Now, Trump's defense to this is going to be, Right, I want all of the corruption in Ukraine investigated, including Burisma. 0.70

00:13:35.000 I don't want the Burisma investigation dropped because that's a good indicator of corruption in Ukraine.

00:13:40.000 That's going to be Trump's defense.

00:13:41.000 The left, Democrats, are going to claim, no, the reason that he was so all-fired concerned with Burisma specifically is because he wanted to go after Joe Biden.

00:13:50.000 So Taylor says that he had a series of meetings in which it was clear that everybody in state and defense wanted to resume aid to Ukraine, but Ukraine was being held up specifically by Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney, and the Chief of Staff maintained a skeptical view toward Ukraine.

00:14:11.000 He said, needless to say, the Ukrainians in the meetings were confused.

00:14:13.000 Ambassador Bolton in the regular Ukraine policy decision-making channel wanted to talk about security, energy, and reform.

00:14:18.000 Ambassador Sondland, a participant in the irregular channel, wanted to talk about the connection between a White House meeting and Ukrainian investigations.

00:14:26.000 He said he had a July 19th call in which it was discussed that Rudy Giuliani ought to be involved in this process.

00:14:34.000 And then he talks about the text messages that he held with other members of the Trump administration in which he suggested that there might be a quid pro quo going on.

00:14:43.000 He says, later on July 20th, I had a phone conversation with Ambassador Sondland while he was on a train from Paris to London.

00:14:48.000 Ambassador Sondland told me he had recommended to Zelensky, he used the phrase, I will leave no stone unturned with regard to investigations when President Zelensky spoke with President Trump.

00:14:58.000 And then on July 25th, they had this conversation.

00:15:01.000 He says, After our meeting with President Zelensky the next day, Ambassador Volker and I traveled to the front line in northern Donbass to receive a briefing from the commander of the forces on the line of contact.

00:15:11.000 Arriving for the briefing in military headquarters, the commander thanked us for security assistance, but I was aware this assistance was on hold, which made me uncomfortable.

00:15:18.000 And they looked over all the damage that had been done by Russian-led forces.

00:15:22.000 Over 13,000 Ukrainians had been killed in the war, one or two a week.

00:15:27.000 He says on August 16th I exchanged text messages with Ambassador Volker in which I learned that Andrei Yermak had asked the United States to submit an official request for an investigation into Burisma's alleged violations of Ukrainian law if that's what the U.S.

00:15:39.000 desired.

00:15:40.000 A formal request to the Ukrainians to conduct an investigation based on violations of their own law struck me as improper.

00:15:45.000 I recommended to Ambassador Volker that we stay clear.

00:15:49.000 By mid-August, because the security assistance had been held for over a month for no reason I could discern, I was beginning to fear that the long-standing U.S.

00:15:55.000 policy of support for Ukraine was shifting.

00:15:58.000 He told Pompeo that he'd have to resign if the aid was not restored.

00:16:02.000 Ambassador Bolton encouraged him to keep informing Pompeo of this.

00:16:06.000 So Bolton, obviously, who was Trump's national security advisor, did not actually want any of this going on.

00:16:14.000 He said on September 1st, three days after he cabled Pompeo, Zelensky met Vice President Pence at a bilateral meeting in Warsaw.

00:16:20.000 President Trump had planned to travel to Warsaw, but at the last minute had canceled because of Hurricane Dorian.

00:16:25.000 And he said that he had contacted the ambassador from Ukraine to let him know that the delay of U.S.

00:16:30.000 security assistance was an all or nothing proposition in the sense that if the White House did not lift the hold prior to the end of the fiscal year, the funds would expire and Ukraine would receive nothing.

00:16:38.000 He was hoping that his pressure would sort of restore the aid.

00:16:41.000 Politico then reported on the missing aid and the aid was quickly restored.

00:16:44.000 So bottom line here is that Taylor is just reiterating a lot of the claims that he was making in those text messages, which we have already seen, which is that he believes that the Burisma affair was at the center of this.

00:16:58.000 He says before the text messages that he had with Ambassador Sondland about the quid pro quo, he says during our call on September 8th, Ambassador Sondland tried to explain to me that President Trump is a businessman.

00:16:58.000 Right.

00:17:08.000 When a businessman is about to sign a check to someone who owes him something, he said, the businessman asks that person to pay up before signing the check.

00:17:14.000 Ambassador Volcker used the same terms several days later while we were together at Yalta European Strategy Conference.

00:17:20.000 I argued to both that the explanation made no sense.

00:17:22.000 So that is Taylor's testimony and Democrats are jumping all over it.

00:17:25.000 Holding up security assistance for domestic political gain was crazy.

00:17:27.000 As I had said in my text message to Ambassador Sumlin and Volcker on September 9th, on September 11th, the hold was lifted.

00:17:33.000 The security assistance would be provided.

00:17:35.000 So that is Taylor's testimony, and Democrats are jumping all over it.

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00:18:55.000 Okay, so naturally, the left is jumping all over Bill Taylor's testimony.

00:19:00.000 They're suggesting that it adds something new to the mix.

00:19:03.000 I don't think that it does actually.

00:19:05.000 It seems to me that the same thing is basically It seems to me the same thing is basically being reiterated here, that if you perceive this as Trump trying to hold up aid to get Biden, it looks like that.

00:19:16.000 And if you perceive it as Trump very upset about a wide variety of corruption angles that affect him personally, as well as affecting the country and Rudy Giuliani feeding him bad information, Trump is reacting to all of that.

00:19:27.000 And so what you have is basically the continuation of this Rorschach test that has existed ever since the transcript of the Trump-Zelensky phone call came out a few weeks ago.

00:19:37.000 President Trump, for his part, is of course deeply, deeply upset about all of this.

00:19:42.000 And he is more upset about all of this because he looks at the behavior of the Democrats and he says, these people are not acting in honest fashion.

00:19:49.000 Representative Andy Biggs of Arizona has a piece in the Washington Examiner talking about the process being used in the House.

00:19:55.000 He says that this is corrupt.

00:19:57.000 He says, earlier this week, Representative Denny Heck, a Democratic member of the House Intelligence Committee, who told reporters that Republicans are darn lucky these hearings and depositions weren't public, The implication was the information coming out is horrifically damaging to Trump.

00:20:10.000 The reality is if the information was damaging to Trump, Democrats would hold open hearings.

00:20:14.000 They would have already released transcript of the testimonies.

00:20:17.000 Trump didn't ask the Ukrainian president to investigate a political opponent.

00:20:21.000 The Trump administration has released the transcript of the telephone conversation between Trump and Ukrainian President Zelensky.

00:20:27.000 The Trump administration will provide additional evidence and witnesses in an open and transparent process.

00:20:32.000 But why should they cooperate when the fix is in?

00:20:34.000 Adam Schiff keeps holding these closed-door meetings in the top security room in the basement of the Capitol.

00:20:39.000 He's doing this to keep the public and the president in the dark.

00:20:42.000 Nonetheless, leftist media outlets report on the substance of what has been testified to and what documents have been produced in the hearings.

00:20:48.000 Someone from the left is leaking.

00:20:49.000 He says that Pelosi, Schiff, Democrats in Congress are ignoring historical norms and processes in order to try to remove Trump from office.

00:20:58.000 He says we usually have a process in which an impeachment investigation is commenced by a formal vote by members of the House of Representatives.

00:21:05.000 The investigation is then conducted by the Judiciary Committee or a special select committee.

00:21:09.000 At the same time that the formal resolution to investigate the president is voted on, the House establishes rules of the investigation, sets the committee that will investigate, and any other particular instructions necessary for the committee to do its work.

00:21:21.000 But Democrats aren't doing this. 0.81

00:21:22.000 Instead, they're doing this on an ad hoc basis, and so Trump feels like he's being screwed.

00:21:26.000 Meanwhile, Molly Hemingway over at The Federalist is pointing out that Adam Schiff is flip-flopping on the public nature of whistleblower testimony after reports that he was coordinating with the whistleblower.

00:21:37.000 Hemingway says, at first, Schiff insisted an anti-Trump bureaucrat sharing allegations against the president must share his story with the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.

00:21:46.000 But after news broke that Schiff's staff had secretly worked with the whistleblower prior to the complaint being lodged, discussions that the whistleblower failed to mention when specifically asked about them as part of the official whistleblower process, Schiff moved to prevent the testimony.

00:22:00.000 The move appears designed to prevent Republican lawmakers from asking the individual under oath about his discussions with House Democrats, media, and others involved in the impeachment effort.

00:22:09.000 So, as she points out, Schiff has now shifted his position on exactly what should happen with the whistleblower.

00:22:16.000 Should the whistleblower testify?

00:22:17.000 Should the whistleblower not testify?

00:22:19.000 By Sunday, Schiff was claiming that the testimony was not even needed.

00:22:24.000 So, of course Trump is going to be suspicious of all of this.

00:22:28.000 I mean, Trump has reason to be suspicious of the Democrats.

00:22:30.000 The Democrats obviously want to impeach him.

00:22:32.000 They've wanted to impeach him since the day he was elected.

00:22:35.000 And he also feels as though he has been targeted, and correctly so, he feels that he is being targeted by people inside his own administration to the cheers of the media.

00:22:44.000 And that's true.

00:22:45.000 He is being targeted by people in his own administration to the cheers of the media.

00:22:48.000 The evidence of this is that the anonymous author of a Trump resistance op-ed is now going to publish a tell-all book and remain anonymous while doing so, and claims that he is a top-ranking member of the Trump administration, who's presumably being paid a hefty sum by a publisher to write a book about how terrible Trump is while serving in the Trump administration.

00:23:08.000 Well, if he doesn't like it, he has a very simple solution.

00:23:10.000 He can resign and then reveal publicly who he is.

00:23:13.000 But he's not going to do that.

00:23:14.000 Hey, well, by the way, we've seen a bunch of people do this, right?

00:23:15.000 We've seen a bunch of people inside the Trump administration publicly resign and say they can't serve under this president.

00:23:21.000 Well, at least that's honest.

00:23:22.000 What is deeply dishonest is a person who is an anonymous, non-whistleblower, right?

00:23:27.000 Not going through formal channels, writing a book for money in which they discuss ongoing events inside the Trump administration to the wild cheers of the media.

00:23:37.000 That's not good for the presidency, it's not good for the country, and of course it's going to underscore how suspicious Trump is of people inside his administration, and it's going to encourage Trump to set up exactly the sort of irregular channels that Bill Taylor was talking about, right?

00:23:49.000 Why would you set up an irregular channel?

00:23:51.000 The only reason to set up an irregular channel is because you don't trust the regular channel.

00:23:55.000 One of the reasons you might not trust the regular channel is it feels like the regular channel is being used as a method of hurting you.

00:24:03.000 It feels like members of the intelligence community are going after you.

00:24:09.000 It feels as though members of the State Department on lower levels are attempting to skew your foreign policy.

00:24:14.000 It appears that members of the quote-unquote deep state are going after you.

00:24:18.000 It's hard to argue with Trump about why Trump should feel, should feel differently when you have articles like this from Philip Rucker in the New York times quote, the author of an anonymous column in the New York times in 2018, who was identified as a senior Trump administration official acting as part of the resistance inside the government has written a tell all book to be published next month.

00:24:37.000 The book titled a warning is being promoted as an unprecedented behind the scenes portrait of the Trump presidency that expands upon the times column, which ricocheted around the world and stoked the president's rage because of its devastating portrayal of Trump in office.

00:24:49.000 And just a second, I'm going to give you more information on this anonymous book that again is underscoring the president's distrusting government, which leads him to set up irregular channels, which leads them to make mistakes, which leads him into traps, which leads the Democrats to seem to believe that they have material to impeach.

00:25:05.000 This is all part of a big, big picture.

00:25:08.000 And if you don't see the big picture, you can't understand anybody's perspective right, left, or center.

00:25:11.000 We'll get to that in just one second.

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00:26:26.000 Okay, so back to this anonymous whistleblower thing.

00:26:29.000 Let's say that you're Trump.

00:26:30.000 Like, to just get in the man's head for a second.

00:26:32.000 Let's say that you're President Trump, and every day in the White House you see a story from your administration leaking.

00:26:37.000 Something that nobody is supposed to know outside the administration, because this is the center of foreign policymaking in the United States.

00:26:43.000 And there it is leaking.

00:26:44.000 And then let's say that there are a series of op-eds that keep coming out from members of your administration, lower-down members of your administration, either quitting or anonymously ripping into you.

00:26:54.000 And let's say that you feel like your policy is being thwarted.

00:26:57.000 And let's add to that, you believe that the media hate you, because they do.

00:27:00.000 And let's add to that, that it feels like major companies, big tech companies, are biased against you, which in many cases, they are.

00:27:07.000 Wouldn't you start to get a bit of a persecution complex?

00:27:09.000 Wouldn't you start to think, okay, well, whatever power I do have, I'm going to use to investigate this sort of corruption, because forget me.

00:27:16.000 The power of the presidency is under attack.

00:27:18.000 No one should have to operate this way.

00:27:20.000 And there is this ridiculous double standard where if you're a Democrat and you're in power, the entire quote-unquote apparatus works for you.

00:27:26.000 But if you're Republican, half the apparatus is working against you.

00:27:29.000 Half the time.

00:27:30.000 And that's a disaster area.

00:27:32.000 Again, this anonymous book is really case in point of this.

00:27:36.000 As I mentioned, the New York Times is reporting that there is an anonymous anti-Trump book that's going to be published from inside the administration.

00:27:43.000 The author of a column in the New York Times, which was titled, I am part of the resistance inside the Trump administration, which by the way is wildly unconstitutional.

00:27:50.000 I mean, to be part of a resistance to an administration inside the administration?

00:27:54.000 You know what you can do?

00:27:55.000 You can quit.

00:27:56.000 You know, the other thing you can do, you can work through official legal channels.

00:27:59.000 You know what you're really not supposed to do?

00:28:00.000 Is go leaking confidential information on the workings of administration to the media.

00:28:04.000 That's not something you're supposed to do.

00:28:07.000 Trump lashed out at the anonymous author after the column's publication.

00:28:11.000 The president questioned both whether the author existed and whether the author had committed treason, and he demanded on Twitter the Times turn over the gutless anonymous person to the government at once, which the Times, of course, did not.

00:28:21.000 The forthcoming book will list the author as anonymous.

00:28:23.000 Although the person does not reveal their identity in the book, they will discuss the reasons for their anonymity, according to people involved in the project.

00:28:30.000 The book is set to be published November 19th, and the media are really excited about all of this.

00:28:35.000 The author is being represented by Matt Latimer and Keith Urban of Javelin.

00:28:38.000 They're the same literary agents who represented both fired FBI director James Comey and former White House aide Cliff Sims for their memoirs.

00:28:46.000 People involved in the project say that both Twelve and Javelin have verified the book's author is the same person who wrote the Times column, but they will not share the author's identity with the Washington Post.

00:28:55.000 There is no modern historical precedent for a first-hand account of a sitting president written in book form by an anonymous author.

00:29:02.000 Many senior government officials have written books under their own name, but this is something completely different.

00:29:09.000 The author could have received a seven-figure advance for writing this book, said Latimer, but a warning was not written for financial reasons.

00:29:14.000 The author sees this as an act of conscience, which is why the author refused any advance and is donating a substantial portion of any royalties to charities that protect those seeking the truth around the world.

00:29:23.000 Well, I wonder what that substantial portion is.

00:29:24.000 I mean, is he keeping any money?

00:29:25.000 How exactly is this supposed to be working?

00:29:28.000 I mean, beyond that, there is something deeply disturbing about members of an administration writing anonymous books about the administration.

00:29:34.000 You want to come out, you want to bash the administration, quit your job.

00:29:37.000 You don't get to take taxpayer dollars while bashing the administration you're supposed to be working for.

00:29:41.000 And all this is leading Trump to rant and rave, obviously.

00:29:45.000 Just a day ago, the Los Angeles Times reported, That President Trump had a cabinet meeting in which he spent some 71 minutes ripping into the media, ripping into people who are criticizing him.

00:29:59.000 He says the Democrats went crazy about the report that he was planning on holding in the next G7 summit at Doral, the Florida golf resort that Trump owns.

00:30:07.000 That wasn't just Democrats who were going crazy.

00:30:09.000 Last week I pointed out that this certainly gives the appearance of corruption.

00:30:12.000 But, with that said, he said, you don't think I get enough promotion?

00:30:14.000 I get more promotion than every human being who has ever lived.

00:30:17.000 I don't need promotion.

00:30:18.000 It would have been the greatest G7 ever.

00:30:19.000 You people with this phony emoluments clause.

00:30:22.000 The president repeated his claim.

00:30:23.000 He had lost billions of dollars by becoming president.

00:30:25.000 He says, I'm making a big difference for the country.

00:30:27.000 So whether I lost two billion, five billion, more or less, it doesn't make any difference to me.

00:30:30.000 I don't care.

00:30:31.000 If you're rich, it doesn't matter.

00:30:32.000 I'm doing this for the country.

00:30:33.000 Okay.

00:30:34.000 Well, that may well be true.

00:30:37.000 And the president also obviously feels that he is under assault, mainly because he is in fact under assault.

00:30:42.000 And so he is, I mean, right now he is busily investigating the intelligence community's actions in 2016.

00:30:48.000 His own attorney general, Bill Barr, has been investigating the origins of the Trump-Russia probe that ended up being a big nothing during the Mueller report, right?

00:30:56.000 The Trump-Russia stuff ended up basically amounting to nothing.

00:30:59.000 It was the obstruction stuff that was damaging to President Trump.

00:31:02.000 According to Politico, William Barr has been meeting with the U.S.' 's closest foreign intelligence allies in recent months, making repeated trips overseas as part of an investigation he is overseeing into the origins of the Russia probe and whether any inappropriate spying occurred on the Trump campaign.

00:31:16.000 As part of that investigation, Barr and John Durham, the federal prosecutor he appointed to conduct it, have been probing a conspiracy theory for which there is little evidence, according to several people with knowledge of the matter, that a key player in the Russia probe, a professor named Joseph Mifsud, was actually a Western intelligence asset sent to discredit the Trump campaign, and that the CIA under John Brennan was somehow involved.

00:31:35.000 Trump, meanwhile, has been quote-unquote obsessed with Brennan, who frequently gets under the president's skin by publicly questioning his mental acuity and fitness for office.

00:31:43.000 Trump has repeatedly attacked Brennan.

00:31:45.000 Well, Brennan has repeatedly attacked Trump publicly.

00:31:47.000 I mean, Brennan has come out and claimed that there was information waiting in the wings that suggested that Trump was going to be impeached over the Russia stuff, and that turned out not to be true.

00:31:56.000 Brennan, of course, also allegedly lied in front of Congress.

00:32:00.000 With all of this miasma of corruption and ugliness and partisanship floating around, you can see why everybody has retreated to their partisan corners, because nobody believes that any single standard is being held on any of this stuff.

00:32:11.000 If you're a Republican, even if you think Trump's behavior is questionable, you're saying to yourself, Would Democrats impeach if this were a Democrat?

00:32:16.000 And the answer you come to is absolutely not.

00:32:19.000 And if you're a Democrat looking at Republicans, you're like, would Republicans have impeached if this were a Democrat?

00:32:23.000 Absolutely yes.

00:32:24.000 So we're going to impeach here, right?

00:32:25.000 I mean, that's exactly where all of this is.

00:32:27.000 And if you're Trump sitting here, you're going, listen, I always thought American politics was corrupt.

00:32:32.000 And so I acted like I think American politics is, which is to say corrupt, right?

00:32:35.000 I acted in a way that I thought was beneficial for the United States in a way I think politics works.

00:32:41.000 In a certain way, governance is a self-fulfilling prophecy.

00:32:44.000 If you believe governance is an honest business of back and forth, you're more likely to govern that way.

00:32:48.000 If you think that politics is basically a business of greased palms and people slapping each other on the back in cigar smoke-filled rooms, that is likely the way that you're going to operate.

00:32:58.000 And the fact is that American politics these days may be more like the latter than like the former.

00:33:03.000 We'll get to President Trump's response to all of this, and then he got himself in trouble because he used a word.

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00:34:22.000 In just one second, we are going to get to the rest of the reasons why Trump would feel under attack, because he is under attack.

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00:35:40.000 Okay, so just to complete the reasons why President Trump feels unfairly under attack.

00:35:48.000 And that doesn't necessarily mean that his activity is justified.

00:35:52.000 It's just to get straight why everybody is acting the way that they are.

00:35:55.000 I mean, if we're going to explain why Trump is acting the way that he is, why Democrats are acting the way that they are, why Republicans are acting the way that they are, and why independents are just kind of going like, Guys, can we just wait for more information?

00:36:04.000 Which I think, by the way, is almost always the proper response to nearly anything.

00:36:08.000 You have to understand that if you're Trump, you feel like this array of forces is aligned against you.

00:36:13.000 And you are right about that, right?

00:36:14.000 You have people inside your own administration writing anonymous accounts for for Penguin or whatever it is for Hachette about exactly why you are so terrible without quitting while still taking taxpayer money and being hailed as heroes for doing so.

00:36:29.000 You have John Brennan running around running that Trump Russia investigation while at the same time for several years claiming information that he did not have and being a dishonest human being and being a dishonest human being.

00:36:41.000 And then, you also have the media, which is always going to treat you unfairly.

00:36:46.000 When Trump says the media treats Republicans unfairly, of course, 100% that is true.

00:36:49.000 Perfect example.

00:36:52.000 There's this astonishing story about Representative Katie Hill, Democrat from California.

00:36:56.000 She's Vice Chair of the House Committee on Oversight and Reform.

00:37:00.000 And she is an open bisexual, which is of no relevance except that it's very relevant to this particular story. 0.94

00:37:06.000 Photographs and text messages obtained by Red State show that Representative Hill was involved in a long-term sexual relationship with a female campaign staffer.

00:37:13.000 The woman, whose name is not being released, was hired by Hill in late 2017 and quickly became involved in a thrupple relationship with Hill and her estranged husband, Kenny Heslip.

00:37:23.000 Hezlip and the staffer, according to text messages provided to Red State, believe the polyamorous arrangement to be a long-term committed relationship.

00:37:29.000 The trio took multiple vacations together, including to Alaska, where the photograph was taken.

00:37:34.000 She was being paid, presumably, on the campaign or taxpayer dime at the time.

00:37:38.000 Red State has obtained Intimate photographs of the women, which they've chosen not to publish.

00:37:43.000 According to a source close to the Stafford, the Thruple agreed to continue their committed relationship when Hill moved to Washington, D.C.

00:37:49.000 on January 2019.

00:37:50.000 But, Heslop and the Stafford quickly noticed a difference in Hill's demeanor.

00:37:53.000 By late May, Hill broke off her relationships with both Heslop and the Stafford, claiming she wanted to focus on this important work and it wasn't unfair to be involved in the relationship.

00:38:02.000 The staffer, as the text messages show, was distraught, trying to figure out how to move on with her life.

00:38:07.000 Now, why does this matter?

00:38:09.000 Well, because she's on the Oversight and Ethics Reform Committee, okay?

00:38:13.000 Like, that stuff actually... Like, this is an ethics complaint.

00:38:16.000 If you are having sex with a staffer, that is an ethics complaint.

00:38:21.000 Her response, by the way, is interesting.

00:38:25.000 Her response on Twitter was that she reached out to Speaker Pelosi and Leader Hoyer personally to deny improper relationship with her staffer, which is a pretty astonishing denial considering there are actual pictures of the two of them going at it.

00:38:36.000 I mean, like, one of the pictures Red State released is a picture of Hill stark naked sitting behind her own staffer combing her hair.

00:38:42.000 Like, I don't know about your work relationships, but that is not something that I do with my staffers, because that would be sexual and weird.

00:38:50.000 In a statement, Hill says she's going through a divorce from an abusive husband who is determined to try to humiliate me.

00:38:55.000 She says, I've notified Capitol Police who are investigating the situation and potential legal violations of those who posted and distributed the photos.

00:39:03.000 So, um, yeah, so she's trying to turn her ethics violation into her being the victim of an anti-feminist attack, which is, which is interesting. 1.00

00:39:12.000 Ryan Saavedra over at Daily Wire is reporting that the woman is now suggesting that she was involved in the relationship in sort of an abusive way.

00:39:22.000 There's a new report from Red State which raises questions about the possible abuse by Hill toward the young female candidate staffer, campaign staffer, with whom she was allegedly having a sexual relationship.

00:39:33.000 The new report also raises questions about the staffer's ability to give consent in the relationship.

00:39:39.000 In the red states, Jennifer Van Laar exclusively reported on Friday on all of this.

00:39:45.000 The young female campaign staffer described the relationship as being toxic.

00:39:48.000 She wrote Hill a message in June 2019 saying, I'm terrified of pushing back against you or upsetting you.

00:39:53.000 I've seen how you treat Kenny.

00:39:54.000 I think if I cause any issues, even if I'm very worried about how you were acting, you will quickly decide you don't want me in your life.

00:39:59.000 And then apparently the staffer said, I don't know, I was getting ready.

00:40:02.000 I was thinking about how much Katie liked to watch me.

00:40:05.000 It's okay, she can't take this from me, she can ruin politics, take all my friends and isolate me, but she can't have this. 0.60

00:40:11.000 So the mainstream media have been ignoring all of this.

00:40:13.000 There's been very little coverage of all of this because, of course, this is a Democrat.

00:40:16.000 If this were a Republican, would this story ever stop being covered?

00:40:19.000 Like, ever, ever, ever?

00:40:21.000 The answer, of course, is no.

00:40:23.000 The answer, of course, and that is not even the biggest story with regard to sort of institutional bias against Republicans today.

00:40:29.000 My friend Stephen Crowder, the comedian, He has a new report out claiming that YouTube actually tried to suppress Democratic Hawaii Representative Tulsi Gabbard's videos following her feud with former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

00:40:41.000 In other words, he's claiming that YouTube does the dirty work of the Democratic establishment.

00:40:45.000 Now, I know for a fact that for a while there, if you searched my name on YouTube, no result from the Daily Wire or Ben Shapiro channel would pop up.

00:40:53.000 None.

00:40:54.000 And the same thing was happening to Crowder as well.

00:40:56.000 I mean, we discussed this.

00:40:57.000 Okay, well now, Crowder has revealed that if you use a VPN from Spain, the results that return on Tulsi Gabbard are wildly different from the results that return if you do not use that VPN from Spain.

00:41:09.000 Crowder tweeted a video, according to the Washington Examiner, showing two separate YouTube searches for content related to Gabbard, whom Clinton called a Russian asset.

00:41:16.000 The first attempt was a standard search on October 18th using an American device, which yielded several videos related to Clinton's claim that Gabbard was being groomed by Russian President Vladimir Putin, but none of the campaign's videos.

00:41:28.000 The second search was conducted using a VPN, which made the search appear as though it were being conducted in Spain.

00:41:32.000 The search results for Spain offered completely different results.

00:41:35.000 Instead, the search showed Gabbard's own content along with other videos.

00:41:40.000 Crowder ran his test again on October 20th, using the same search method after the Clinton controversy died down.

00:41:45.000 This time, the search results for the two countries aligned to include Gabbard's videos.

00:41:50.000 Crowder alleges that YouTube is intentionally suppressing other content about Gabbard during her spat with Clinton to influence the 2020 election.

00:41:56.000 Gabbard, of course, already has an outstanding lawsuit with Google.

00:41:59.000 She claims that Google intentionally blocked her campaign ads following a presidential debate where she was the most searched candidate.

00:42:05.000 Google denied wrongdoing.

00:42:07.000 They said that they hadn't provided incomplete data with regard to payment for the ads, and that's why there was this holdup.

00:42:14.000 Bottom line is, the allegations themselves are deeply disturbing.

00:42:17.000 If Big Tech actually has somebody with a button who's actually pushing the button and saying, we are now going to silence content from particular candidates, doesn't that scare you?

00:42:26.000 Much more, by the way, than the Russians posting memes. 0.93

00:42:28.000 If you got somebody in Big Tech who's sitting there, at any of these Big Tech companies, at YouTube, sitting there, and during the campaign debates, like between Trump and Elizabeth Warren, or Trump and Biden, Sitting there and pushing a button and demoting Trump's content?

00:42:41.000 Isn't that scary as all hell?

00:42:43.000 I mean, no wonder Trump is feeling under assault.

00:42:46.000 Okay, so President Trump himself said many a thing about this whole impeachment gate 2019 situation.

00:42:52.000 He started off yesterday by saying, we have an obligation to investigate corruption in Ukraine.

00:42:56.000 Again, the two dueling narratives are going to be from Bill Taylor, which is that Trump wasn't interested in corruption in Ukraine.

00:43:02.000 He was interested in going after Joe Biden with American foreign aid directed at Ukraine.

00:43:07.000 And then Trump's story is, I'm interested in fighting corruption in Ukraine, and that corruption includes corruption that was directed against me in 2016, and it includes Burisma, it includes all of these things.

00:43:17.000 So why exactly wouldn't we investigate all of that stuff?

00:43:20.000 We have an obligation to investigate corruption.

00:43:22.000 And that's what it was.

00:43:24.000 In my opinion, that's what it was, is corruption.

00:43:27.000 And if Ukraine would know something about the 2016 election, you have to give that information.

00:43:32.000 I hope that they would give the information.

00:43:34.000 And everybody agrees with me, 100%.

00:43:37.000 But when I look at experts that are on your show, and other experts, they're all saying you have an obligation to do that.

00:43:43.000 Okay, so that was Trump on Sean Hannity's show the other night.

00:43:46.000 Trump also added that it would be great for him if the Democrats were to impeach him.

00:43:51.000 That may or may not be true.

00:43:52.000 If people think that the auspices are strong for impeachment, obviously that won't be true.

00:43:56.000 But Trump then made a statement that got him in all sorts of hot water with the left.

00:44:00.000 He called this a political lynching.

00:44:02.000 So he went on Twitter and he said, so someday if a Democrat becomes president and the Republicans win the House, even by a tiny margin, they can impeach the president without due process or fairness or any legal rights.

00:44:11.000 All Republicans must remember what they are witnessing here, a lynching.

00:44:16.000 But we will win.

00:44:17.000 Okay, so, the word lynching obviously has connotations that I think everybody jumps to these days with regard to racist lynchings of America's past, which are one of the most horrifying aspects of American history.

00:44:28.000 Do I think that's what Trump was referring to here?

00:44:30.000 No.

00:44:30.000 I do not think that Trump was referring to the racist lynching by the KKK of black people in Alabama in 1920.

00:44:35.000 I do not think that's what was going on here.

00:44:37.000 I think that Trump is referring to the typical use of lynching in politics to mean, you know, anytime a mob rule jury is sort of rounded up and then people are unfairly hanged.

00:44:47.000 I mean, a bunch of people in America who are not black for non-racial reasons We're lynched in the United States for decades in the United States.

00:44:53.000 So lynching does not only have the racial connotation.

00:44:55.000 It does have racial connotations.

00:44:56.000 It can be read that way, but it's pretty obvious that's not what Trump means here.

00:45:01.000 How do we know this?

00:45:02.000 Well, because Joe Biden said in 1998 that the Clinton impeachment could be seen as quote unquote, a partisan lynching.

00:45:09.000 And then Joe Biden tweeted today, impeachment is not lynching.

00:45:11.000 It is part of our constitution.

00:45:13.000 Our country has a dark, shameful history with lynching.

00:45:15.000 To even think about making this comparison is abhorrent.

00:45:18.000 It's despicable.

00:45:19.000 Except that in 1998, again, Joe Biden said that the Clinton impeachment could be seen as a partisan lynching.

00:45:26.000 That was reported by CNN.

00:45:28.000 He said, even if the president should be impeached, history is going to question whether or not this was just a partisan lynching.

00:45:32.000 Joe Biden, 1998.

00:45:34.000 So the point here is that the Democrats were claiming this is obviously a racial thing.

00:45:38.000 That's obviously dishonest.

00:45:39.000 Are you seeing Democrats do this?

00:45:41.000 Al Green said that Trump should be impeached.

00:45:43.000 The Democratic representative said Trump should be impeached just for saying the word lynching.

00:45:48.000 Al Green also said that President Trump should be impeached because he said bleephole countries about particular countries.

00:45:53.000 Like, Al Green, basically, he is, he's just proving the old sort of logical truism that the last half of the sentence does not have to have anything to do with the first half of the sentence, right?

00:46:05.000 You can, if you have an if-then statement, The then part of the statement can be true, even if the if part is not true.

00:46:11.000 Meaning, if I say the sky is blue, if that's the conclusion of my statement, I can say, if the grass is yellow, the sky is blue.

00:46:18.000 Well, that does not mean that only on the condition that if the grass is yellow, the sky is always going to be blue.

00:46:23.000 Well, for Al Green, the conclusion of the sentence is, if blank, Trump should be impeached.

00:46:29.000 In this case, it's Trump used the word lynching.

00:46:31.000 How dare the president compare Lynching to impeachment.

00:46:42.000 How dare he do this?

00:46:44.000 Does he not know the history of lynching in this country?

00:46:48.000 At some point, we must say enough is enough.

00:46:52.000 At some point, we must move on to impeach.

00:46:56.000 You are unfit to hold this office.

00:47:00.000 Okay, so, really?

00:47:02.000 Like, really?

00:47:03.000 Okay, so, raise your hand, really, if you believe that Trump, when he threw out lynching, he's like, I'm just like a black person in the South being lynched by the KKK.

00:47:09.000 Like, really?

00:47:11.000 You think that's what Trump was saying?

00:47:12.000 You really think that's what Trump was saying?

00:47:14.000 Or, is this just another cynical attempt to manipulate language? 0.72

00:47:17.000 Everybody knows that when Trump said lynching, he did not mean the lynching of black people. 0.99

00:47:21.000 That's very, very silly. 0.99

00:47:22.000 But, again, everything becomes a controversy these days because Here's the reality.

00:47:27.000 Democrats in 2020 are looking at their field and they are starting to panic.

00:47:30.000 There's an entire article in the New York Times today titled, Anxious Democratic Establishment Asks, Is There Anybody Else?

00:47:36.000 Quote, When a half dozen Democratic donors gathered at the Whitby Hotel in Manhattan last week, the dinner began with a discussion of which presidential candidates the contributors liked.

00:47:44.000 But as conversations among influential Democrats often go these days, the meeting quickly evolved into a discussion of who is not in the race but could be lured in.

00:47:51.000 Would Hillary Clinton get in? 1.00

00:47:53.000 The contributors wonder.

00:47:54.000 By the way, Hillary wants in. 1.00

00:47:55.000 Hillary's obviously trying to talk her way into this race. 1.00

00:47:57.000 She's obviously trying to talk herself into this race. 1.00

00:48:00.000 There is just no question, right?

00:48:02.000 Because what does she have to lose at this point, right?

00:48:06.000 She's run twice, she's lost twice, and once she won the popular vote. 1.00

00:48:10.000 Her image is what her image is. 0.93

00:48:12.000 In the words of a famous woman, what difference at this point would it make?

00:48:17.000 Why not?

00:48:17.000 Why not jump in?

00:48:18.000 You can see that she obviously wants to do so.

00:48:20.000 Over the weekend, she was at some sort of event.

00:48:22.000 And somebody from the crowd shouted, maybe you should jump in.

00:48:25.000 And she sort of smiled and then ignored the question.

00:48:27.000 She would love to jump in.

00:48:29.000 Why?

00:48:30.000 Because this is an extraordinarily weak field.

00:48:32.000 It's an extraordinarily weak field.

00:48:34.000 And Hillary's obviously tempted to jump. 1.00

00:48:36.000 I mean, she's commenting more and more often.

00:48:38.000 So she went after Tulsi Gabbard in the weirdest way while I was on break here.

00:48:42.000 She suggested that Tulsi Gabbard was a Russian agent, which is a pretty incredible allegation to make about a woman who served in the United States military.

00:48:49.000 I mean, last I checked, this isn't Kevin Costner in No Way Out.

00:48:52.000 In any case, Hillary called Tulsi a Russian asset, which was odd.

00:48:56.000 I'm not making any predictions, but I think they've got their eye on somebody who's currently in the Democratic primary and are grooming her to be the third-party candidate.

00:49:05.000 She's a favorite of the Russians.

00:49:07.000 They have a bunch of sites and bots and other ways of supporting her so far.

00:49:13.000 And that's assuming Jill Stein will give it up, which she might not because she's also a Russian asset.

00:49:20.000 Yeah, she's a Russian asset.

00:49:21.000 I mean, totally.

00:49:22.000 And so they know they can't win without a third party candidate.

00:49:27.000 Okay, and then Tulsi immediately slapped back, because this is exactly what she's been waiting for, is that fight.

00:49:31.000 She says, Great!

00:49:32.000 Thank you, Hillary Clinton! 0.99

00:49:33.000 You, the queen of warmongers, embodiment of corruption! 1.00

00:49:36.000 Boo! 1.00

00:49:37.000 Boo! 0.83

00:49:37.000 Sorry. 0.83

00:49:38.000 It reads directly like the monologue by The Witch and the Princess Bride.

00:49:42.000 The queen of war mangas, embodiment of corruption, boo! 1.00

00:49:46.000 Boo! 0.93

00:49:46.000 Personification of the rot that has sickened the Democratic Party for so long has finally come out from behind the curtain. 0.93

00:49:52.000 From the day I announced my candidacy, there has been a concerted campaign to destroy my reputation.

00:49:56.000 We wondered who was behind it and why.

00:49:58.000 Now we know it was always you, through your proxies.

00:50:01.000 and powerful allies in the corporate media and war machine afraid of the threat I pose, it's now clear that this primary is between you and me.

00:50:07.000 Don't cowardly hide behind your proxies.

00:50:09.000 Join the race directly.

00:50:10.000 And Hillary obviously is considering that because the rest of this field is unbelievably weak. 1.00

00:50:15.000 Elizabeth Warren is weak. 0.93

00:50:17.000 She is weak.

00:50:17.000 She released her educational plan yesterday.

00:50:19.000 She used to be an advocate for charter schools. 1.00

00:50:21.000 Her educational plan now includes a complete ban on any federal funding of charter schools, plus a mandate that charter schools are supposed to follow a bevy of regulations.

00:50:29.000 And then she says that charter schools are uncompetitive, which is nonsense!

00:50:33.000 Charter schools are the only places where parents can voluntarily enroll or disenroll their children in the public school system.

00:50:38.000 What are you talking about?

00:50:39.000 I mean, it's...

00:50:42.000 These candidates are weak. 0.98

00:50:43.000 They're incredibly, incredibly weak. 0.96

00:50:45.000 And if you're Hillary, you gotta be thinking, maybe I ought to jump back in.

00:50:48.000 Okay, time for a quick thing I like, and then we'll get to a bevy of things that I hate, a veritable cornucopia of things I despise.

00:50:55.000 Let's start with a quick thing I like.

00:50:56.000 So, over the holiday weekend, so on Sunday, it was a day called Hoshana Rabbah, which is sort of the second to last day of the Feast of, the Festival of Booths.

00:51:09.000 So that was the, it's, Kind of the day that is a special day for prayer in Judaism.

00:51:15.000 There's talk about Yom Kippur as the day when you kind of absolve all of your sins, and then the gates of heaven are closed.

00:51:20.000 And then there's more Jewish thinking that says that Hoshana Rabbah is sort of the final day where God sort of figures out whether you have repented or not.

00:51:26.000 You've now had a trial period.

00:51:27.000 We figure out where you are.

00:51:28.000 In any case, on Hoshana Rabbah, I ascended to the holiest site in Judaism, the Temple Mount.

00:51:33.000 It is allowed.

00:51:34.000 You are allowed to visit the Temple Mount if you are Jewish.

00:51:36.000 There is a long-standing myth that you are not allowed to visit the Temple Mount if you are Jewish.

00:51:40.000 The rules allegedly specify that you are not allowed to pray on the Temple Mount if you are Jewish.

00:51:44.000 Now, that's kind of controversial in Israel because the fact is Muslims can pray up there, Christians can pray up there, but there is an apartheid-like law that suggests that Jews are not allowed to pray up there.

00:51:54.000 The Supreme Court has basically already gutted that a little bit, so went up to the Temple Mount with security and with a group of other people and First of all, the Temple Mount is enormous.

00:52:05.000 I mean, it's an enormous, enormous site.

00:52:08.000 And there's something to be said about the fact that the holiest site in Judaism now has a mosque sitting directly on top of it.

00:52:13.000 But let's just say that the behavior of the Islamic Waqf is bizarre.

00:52:17.000 So the Islamic Waqf are the guardians of the Dome of the Rock and the Al-Aqsa Mosque. 0.98

00:52:23.000 We sort of walk around the very, very outside of the Temple Mount.

00:52:26.000 Producer Colton can attest to this, he was there with me.

00:52:29.000 And as we were walking around, we stopped in what is sort of the direct line of sight to what would be the Holy of Holies if the Jewish Temple were still standing, or if the Third Temple were to be rebuilt at some point.

00:52:40.000 And so you're looking up into sort of the Kodosh Kedoshim, into that area. 0.93

00:52:46.000 Until we stopped and we took out our phones and we were doing a little bit of praying.

00:52:49.000 Now, if you really believe that it is incredibly deeply offensive for somebody to pray, not out loud, right?

00:52:56.000 I mean, pray silently, off their phone, on a Jewish, the holiest site in Judaism.

00:53:01.000 Then I would suggest you have something wrong with you.

00:53:03.000 While the Islamic Waqf immediately comes over and tries to shut this down, the police up top start to move us along.

00:53:10.000 At that point, it appears that the member of the Islamic Waqf decided to radio some of the people who were nearby, and a bunch of people came over and started shouting Allahu Akbar at the group, which was really delightful.

00:53:23.000 One of the members of our group was carrying Again, I didn't run the group.

00:53:26.000 I'm just a guest, right?

00:53:27.000 So none of this has to do with me on the Temple Mount.

00:53:30.000 I went, I prayed, we were pushed off the Mount, basically.

00:53:33.000 It wasn't a violent situation or anything like that.

00:53:36.000 One of the people there was carrying Aravo, which is one of the sort of rituals that you do on Sukkot.

00:53:41.000 He was nearly arrested by the police.

00:53:43.000 The police then let him go because people in the group said, listen, let him go, we'll leave, it's fine.

00:53:48.000 And as we were moving, A bunch of people came over and started chanting Allahu Akbar, because it's deeply insulting for people to pray silently on the holiest site in Judaism.

00:53:55.000 It's another thing to shout insults at people as they're walking along the holiest site in Judaism.

00:53:59.000 So they start shouting Allahu Akbar at people in an attempt to obviously sort of, I don't want to say insult, because they're shouting God is great in Arabic, which is not quite an insult, but it's obviously an attempt to provoke.

00:54:11.000 And some members of the group, some of the more enthusiastic members of the group, started singing back Songs from the Book of Psalms, which of course is deeply offensive, right?

00:54:18.000 Singing psalms from the Book of Psalms.

00:54:20.000 Very, very offensive.

00:54:22.000 And at that point, the police, not wanting a confrontation, rightly so, decide that they're going to push the entire group off the Temple Mount.

00:54:28.000 The point here is twofold.

00:54:29.000 One, the site's incredible.

00:54:31.000 If you're ever in Jerusalem and you have a chance to visit it, you certainly should.

00:54:33.000 It is the holiest site in Judaism.

00:54:35.000 It is allegedly the third holiest site in Islam.

00:54:38.000 I'm only saying allegedly because I'm not an Islamic scholar, so I'm really not sure, but I think they say it's the third holiest site in Islam.

00:54:44.000 And if you want to see where Jesus walked, this is obviously one of the places where Jesus walked.

00:54:49.000 So it's a very, very holy site.

00:54:50.000 That's cool.

00:54:51.000 Second thing is, it is absurd that Jews are not allowed to openly pray up there.

00:54:54.000 They should obviously be allowed to openly pray up there.

00:54:56.000 Muslims not only are allowed to openly pray up there, they have a Dome of the Rock and a mosque up there.

00:55:01.000 In fact, I think there's a strong case to be made that Jews should be building a... if they can't build the temple, because there's the Dome of the Rock right there, they should at least build a synagogue up there so you can have regularized prayers.

00:55:10.000 If Muslims are able to build a school on one end, which they have done, it seems to me that Jews should be able to build a synagogue in a space that is roughly the size of three football fields. 0.98

00:55:17.000 It is enormous.

00:55:18.000 But it was definitely a pretty incredible experience, and The Kotel, the Western Wall, which everybody always says is the holiest site in Judaism, that's because they don't know what the hell they're talking about.

00:55:28.000 They're getting it wrong.

00:55:30.000 The holiest site in Judaism is the stuff that is above the Western Wall. 0.50

00:55:32.000 The Western Wall isn't even one of the original walls of the Temple.

00:55:35.000 It is an outer retaining wall that was outside the walls of the Temple.

00:55:39.000 So, a little bit of summation of what happened on the Temple.

00:55:41.000 I was getting a little bit of press coverage, and that's sort of what happened.

00:55:45.000 Obviously, look, I wasn't there to provoke.

00:55:46.000 I don't think people in our group were there to provoke.

00:55:51.000 There's something wrong with any law that suggests that I cannot pray on a Jewish holy site.

00:55:55.000 That's absurd.

00:55:56.000 And people should remember that when they talk about partitioning the Holy Land, because it turns out that places where the Palestinian Authority governs, Jews are not allowed in, and they're not allowed to pray in any of these holy sites.

00:56:06.000 And by the way, they also deface Christian holy sites as well, so that's something to keep in mind when you talk about the so-called peace process.

00:56:12.000 Okay, time for a quick thing that I hate.

00:56:18.000 So, things that I hate today.

00:56:20.000 So, there is this story.

00:56:22.000 I want to treat it with caution because I haven't read the entire trial transcripts.

00:56:25.000 So, I'm going to tell you what we know from media reports, and then I'm going to suggest there may be more information I don't know.

00:56:32.000 So, I'm only going to give you my judgment operational on the basis of the information I'm about to provide to you.

00:56:37.000 Again, approaching it with caution.

00:56:40.000 This information is the crux of the information.

00:56:42.000 If there are no other issues that we don't know about, then this is one of the worst stories of government child abuse I've ever heard of.

00:56:48.000 If there's more information, then there's more information.

00:56:50.000 And again, I'm gonna pose it that way because I haven't read all the trial transcripts, and I think that, and I'd like to have all the information before I jump, because when you make a statement as strong as this is one of the worst cases of government child abuse you've ever seen, you want all the information?

00:57:05.000 So I'm just gonna put that in a conditional form.

00:57:07.000 Here is the story according to Amanda Prestigiacomo of Daily Wire.

00:57:11.000 On Monday, a jury ruled against a Texas father named Jeffrey Younger attempting to stop his seven-year-old son from a gender transition being facilitated by Dr. Ann Georgilis, the boys' mother and Younger's ex-wife.

00:57:22.000 With a consensus of 11 of the 12 jurors, the jury decided not to grant Mr. Younger sole managing conservatorship over his two twin boys, according to LifeSite News.

00:57:32.000 They voted that the current joint managing conservatorship should be replaced by a sole managing conservatorship, but that Mr. Younger should not be that person.

00:57:39.000 Apparently, according to LifeSite News, Georgalis has been granted authority to move forward with puberty blockers, which can cause chemical castration and potentially hormones, if the mother so chooses.

00:57:49.000 According to reporting from the Texan, this happened in, where was it, Plano?

00:57:53.000 So this wasn't exactly in Austin.

00:57:55.000 George Gillis' lawyer, Jessica Janicek and Laura Hayes, said the mother does not plan on giving James hormone blockers at this time, but no one has stated that she would not be open to using them when James begins puberty, which would be around 11 and a half for the boy.

00:58:08.000 With the jury's decision, Mr. Younger will likely be forced to affirm his new son's gender identity, a girl named Luna.

00:58:14.000 So Younger did an interview with a host named Luke Macias, and he said that basically his claim is that his ex-wife is indoctrinating his child into transgenderism, is basically his claim.

00:58:26.000 He is saying that when the kid is with him, the kid has no problem being called by a boy's name, acts like a boy, doesn't want to dress up as a girl, and as soon as he goes back to mommy, mommy is pressuring him.

00:58:35.000 In fact, the father claims that the mother is actually My ex-wife claims that James is a transgendered girl.

00:58:41.000 And she has, to date, actually socially transitioned him.

00:58:42.000 Meaning that he wears a dress at her home.

00:58:44.000 He has a new made-up name, Luna.

00:58:44.000 Appears in the court filings.

00:58:46.000 He goes to school.

00:58:46.000 what the father had to say. - My ex-wife claims that James is a transgender girl, and she has, to date, actually socially transitioned him, meaning that he wears a dress at her home, he has a new made-up name, Luna, appears in the court filings, he goes to school, the teachers call him Luna, he uses the girls' bathroom at school,

00:59:12.000 All of his authority figures, his mother, his teacher, the librarian at school, the police officer at school, the principals at school say he's a girl.

00:59:21.000 I'm the only authority figure in his life that tells him the truth, that he's actually a boy.

00:59:26.000 Okay, and for that crime, according to the father, the child is now being removed from his home.

00:59:31.000 According to court documents, they show the younger son only dresses as a girl when he is with his mother, who calls the boy by his trans name and has even enrolled James as Luna in school.

00:59:39.000 According to Younger, James consistently chooses to wear boys' clothes, violently refuses to wear girls' clothes at my home, and identifies as a boy whenever he is around him.

00:59:48.000 According to Younger, the boy has already been quote-unquote fully socially transitioned.

00:59:53.000 The father noted in his opinion he witnessed his wife was only giving James love and affection when he was acting like a girl.

00:59:58.000 She used to lock James in his room and tell him monsters only eat boys, Younger added.

01:00:03.000 He said, every single day you have to see your son sexually abused and you have to maintain your calm because the courts are not going to be fair to you.

01:00:08.000 The only way you can survive this and get your son through this alive is to calmly allow your son to be tortured right before your eyes and outlast the opposition.

01:00:14.000 That's what it's like.

01:00:14.000 They're asking me to affirm an illusion.

01:00:16.000 Okay.

01:00:17.000 If what the father is saying is true, this is one of the worst cases of child abuse I've ever heard of, is the court and the state mandating that a father treat a seven-year-old child who's not capable of deciding his own gender.

01:00:28.000 That's absurd.

01:00:29.000 That's absurd.

01:00:30.000 It's a scientific absurdity. 0.99

01:00:32.000 To suggest that a seven-year-old who doesn't know anything, kids are dumb, to know, I have a five-year-old, she doesn't know anything. 0.88

01:00:38.000 You're saying that a seven-year-old knows the difference between male and female to the extent they're going to be able to choose their own gender for life and that puberty blockers should be applied based on the opinion of psychologists who can't even define gender or the difference between men and women? 0.98

01:00:51.000 It's an absurdity.

01:00:52.000 It's a moral abomination.

01:00:54.000 So if what we are hearing right here is the state mandating that the father give up custody of his child because he wishes to treat his boy as a boy, and that the mother, because of her virtue in pushing a young boy to be treated as a girl, That that is what the state now approves, that it is considered quote-unquote child abuse in some way for you to treat your boy as a boy and refuse to treat him as a girl even though a seven-year-old says he is a girl.

01:01:21.000 And apparently, according to the dad, the seven-year-old doesn't even say he's a girl.

01:01:23.000 The mom says he's a girl.

01:01:25.000 That is...

01:01:26.000 It's hard to think of something more evil for the state to participate in than that sort of abuse.

01:01:30.000 Now, again, as I said at the beginning, there may be more information here that I just don't know.

01:01:34.000 And I'm fully leaving the possibility open that that is the case.

01:01:38.000 So, let that be clear.

01:01:40.000 If, however, what we are hearing from James Younger, the father, if what we are hearing from the father is the whole story, It's egregious, it's horrifying, and the people of Texas should be ashamed that this is happening, frankly.

01:01:53.000 Okay, well, we'll be back here later today with two additional hours, or we'll catch you here tomorrow with all the latest updates.

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01:02:01.000 You can see a little bit of that Temple Mount I was talking about.

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What If Everybody Is Corrupt And Terrible? | Ep. 881

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