The Ben Shapiro Show - What If The News Is Finally Good? | Ep. 1016

00:00:00.000 The media continue to pump bad news, even if the news is actually kind of good.

00:00:03.000 Governor Ron DeSantis of Florida finally goes ape on reporters, and the Michael Flynn case gets more and more curious.

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00:00:24.000 So we actually have a lot of good news.

00:00:26.000 The last couple of weeks have been a time of good news.

00:00:28.000 Now listen, there's never unqualifiedly good news in the middle of a pandemic.

00:00:32.000 There are always going to be more deaths.

00:00:33.000 There's always going to be more suffering.

00:00:35.000 That is just the reality of life.

00:00:37.000 But if you had told people several weeks ago that the curve would be flattened, that states would be beginning to be reopened, and you wouldn't see these massive spikes as those states reopen, then in fact, Many of the states reopening are seeing lower rates of infection and death than they were even when they were closed.

00:00:51.000 You would think that was kind of a bit of good news, would you not?

00:00:54.000 What if you found out that the virus is not as easily transmissible as it was once thought to be?

00:00:58.000 Meaning that if it's going to be transmitted, it is mainly done through face-to-face contact.

00:01:02.000 As I mentioned yesterday, the CDC downgraded its risk assessment level from getting this thing on surfaces.

00:01:08.000 They basically said that's pretty unlikely you're going to get this from surfaces.

00:01:11.000 Now, at CNN, there's a piece suggesting that staying safe isn't just about staying six feet away from others and washing your hands with soap.

00:01:18.000 It's about staying away from people in closed areas for significant amounts of time.

00:01:22.000 Aaron Bromage, a comparative immunologist and professor of biology at University of Massachusetts, Dartmouth, summed it up with a short and sweet equation, successful infection equals exposure to virus times time.

00:01:33.000 Meaning that you actually have to be exposed to the virus for a long period of time, which is why you're seeing a lot of medical workers who are getting this because they are in contact with people who have this for long periods of time.

00:01:41.000 A lot of nursing home workers have gotten this.

00:01:43.000 But if you just walk through a room where somebody sneezed five minutes beforehand, the chances that you're going to get this are actually pretty low.

00:01:49.000 Ramesh's simplified formula was part of a recent blog post explaining ways to lower your risk of catching COVID-19.

00:01:55.000 The main idea is people get infected when they are exposed to a certain amount of viral particles.

00:01:58.000 That viral threshold can be reached by an infected person's sneeze or cough, which releases a large number of viral particles into the air, but an infected person talking or even just breathing releases some virus into the air.

00:02:08.000 Over a long period of time in an enclosed space, that means that the viral load in the area obviously increases.

00:02:14.000 This is why you've seen, for example, widespread infections during choir practices.

00:02:17.000 People are singing and they are projecting and they're in very close contact with one another.

00:02:20.000 But if you have restaurants where people are seated fairly far apart or outside, then you don't see a lot of people who are infecting other people.

00:02:29.000 And this also means that there may be some good ways to alleviate this sort of stuff.

00:02:32.000 Namely, make sure that the air conditioning ventilation at particular restaurants is better.

00:02:36.000 Make sure that you're sitting a little bit further apart.

00:02:39.000 Make sure that you don't spend an hour at the restaurant.

00:02:40.000 Spend 10 minutes at the restaurant.

00:02:42.000 You know, sitting down outside for coffee or something.

00:02:45.000 The bottom line is that that is good news.

00:02:47.000 It means that you are probably not going to get this just from walking around.

00:02:49.000 And this is what you would suspect anyway, because we've had tons of people going to grocery stores and virtually nobody is getting it at the grocery store.

00:02:55.000 A few of the grocery clerks have been getting it because, again, they are experiencing lots of people directly across from them.

00:03:00.000 And that is why they put up the spit guards, which is a good thing. 1.00

00:03:02.000 But we've had grocery stores that are basically chock full of people.

00:03:06.000 You haven't seen viral outbreaks at Walmart, for example.

00:03:08.000 Why?

00:03:08.000 Because you're just not in constant contact with people for very long.

00:03:11.000 You're brushing past them and you're moving on.

00:03:13.000 You are singing at churches.

00:03:14.000 Because you're sitting on a pew next to somebody else for like an hour.

00:03:14.000 Why?

00:03:18.000 You saw it at Minyanim in the Jewish community.

00:03:20.000 Spreading very widely.

00:03:21.000 Because again, you are sitting in a room that is closed for two hours at a time.

00:03:25.000 And so, while singing.

00:03:27.000 So that is likely to lead to wider viral spread.

00:03:30.000 All of this is good news.

00:03:32.000 And yet the media seem just desperate, desperate to continue portraying all the news in the worst possible light.

00:03:38.000 I'll show you a couple examples of this in just a moment.

00:03:40.000 Because instead of just reporting the facts as they come in, and reporting them with any level of complexity and nuance, which is the real world, instead the media basically look for a headline that says things are bad, and then just repeats that headline even when it doesn't actually mesh with the facts.

00:03:53.000 We'll get to that in just one second.

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00:05:10.000 So as I say, it seems like a lot of the media are really intent on painting the worst case scenario as the probable scenario, even when the evidence doesn't actually support that.

00:05:20.000 And so you'll see a lot of headlines about modeling these days, but the headline from the modeling is completely unrelated to reality.

00:05:26.000 So for example, Matt Drudge, over at Drudge Report, has really been playing up sort of the disastrous side of the pandemic.

00:05:32.000 And Matt's great at his job, but the reality is that if you watched a Drudge Report, you would be in a state of sheer panic nearly all the time about coronavirus.

00:05:39.000 He's been taking this thing to the next level.

00:05:41.000 Now, to be fair to Matt, he also did this with Ebola.

00:05:44.000 Anytime there's a viral outbreak anywhere, Matt covers it with extreme, extreme sort of telescopic view or microscopic view rather.

00:05:51.000 I mean, he puts a real spotlight on it.

00:05:53.000 But he headlined today over at the Drudge Report this new model that suggests that some five million people could be infected and a quarter million people could be dead by August.

00:06:02.000 It is a big headline today saying summer scary.

00:06:04.000 Models predict quarter million dead by August.

00:06:07.000 Well, there's only one problem.

00:06:09.000 That model that he is citing is a model from the University of Pennsylvania's Wharton School.

00:06:14.000 They predict that the COVID-19 cases could reach 5.4 million and the death toll could be 290,000 if every state in America were to fully reopen with no social distancing and no mask wearing.

00:06:26.000 Has anybody talked about this like at all?

00:06:28.000 There's not a single state in America where people aren't recommending social distancing and mask wearing.

00:06:32.000 And by and large, Americans, like 80% of Americans, are very, very cautious in their approach to this thing.

00:06:36.000 70 to 80% of Americans are very much in favor of mask wearing, particularly when you are in closed areas.

00:06:41.000 And, you know, I'm one of the people who's been urging that caution.

00:06:43.000 When you're outside, you're far away from people, you're not getting this thing.

00:06:46.000 When you are inside, wearing a mask is just common courtesy, honestly, at this point.

00:06:50.000 Until we know more.

00:06:52.000 But this model, citing the top line of the model, is nearly useless.

00:06:56.000 I mean, that is like saying that if there were no speed limits in the United States, and if everybody just decided to drive 120 miles an hour, you'd have five times as many deaths in car accidents.

00:07:04.000 Okay, but your premise is completely false.

00:07:06.000 There are speed limits, and nobody's driving 120 miles an hour because they wouldn't even if they could, because they'd be afraid of dying.

00:07:12.000 And so there's this piece from the Daily Mail which says, the ominous forecast from the University of Pennsylvania's Wharton School model accounts for all states fully reopening with no social distancing measure.

00:07:22.000 In comparison, the model predicts nearly 4.3 million cases and 230,000 deaths by July 24th if states reopen but individuals maintain their social distancing efforts.

00:07:32.000 So you're talking about the difference between 290,000 deaths and 172,000 deaths, even according to this model.

00:07:36.000 to, the model forecast 3.1 million infections and 172,000 deaths.

00:07:42.000 The best case scenario, which would involve each state maintaining lockdown restrictions as of May 17th, with social distancing and measures still in place, there could be 2.8 million infections and 157,000 deaths.

00:07:51.000 So you're talking about the difference between 290,000 deaths and 172,000 deaths, even according to this model.

00:07:58.000 But by the way, this particular model also happens to be extraordinarily pessimistic.

00:08:02.000 There's a separate model from the University of Massachusetts It's Influenza Forecasting Center.

00:08:06.000 They project that deaths could surpass 113,000 by mid-June.

00:08:11.000 But let's be real about the models.

00:08:12.000 The models are variable.

00:08:14.000 They change really fast.

00:08:15.000 I mean, we were originally told that if there were no social distancing measures, that on the upper end we'd be looking at 2.2 million deaths in the United States.

00:08:22.000 That was the Imperial College model.

00:08:24.000 So relying on models rather than the data as they come in seems to be not all that effective.

00:08:30.000 Also worth noting, while we focus heavily in the United States on lockdown policy, there is no good correlation between the states that have locked down and the states that have not locked down.

00:08:39.000 Now, it's quite possible that in high population density centers, like New York City, that a lockdown is absolutely necessary.

00:08:45.000 But South Dakota didn't lock down.

00:08:47.000 Vermont did lock down.

00:08:49.000 They have kind of the same population, and they have basically the same number of deaths.

00:08:53.000 This, by the way, holds true across Europe.

00:08:54.000 There's a study from Bloomberg today that says with governments across Europe reopening their economies for business, it's a good moment to look back on the different paths taken to control COVID-19 outbreaks to try to see how effective they were.

00:09:05.000 The chart below shows the relative severity of Europe's restrictions based on work done by the University of Oxford's Lovatnik School of Government, which tracks a range of measures and scores how stringent they've been each step of the way.

00:09:15.000 For many European countries, stringency levels increased substantially after the WHO declared a pandemic, even when their caseloads were low.

00:09:23.000 While not a gauge of whether the decisions taken were the right ones, nor of how strictly they were followed, the analysis gives a clear sense of each government's strategy for containing the virus.

00:09:30.000 Some, like Italy and Spain, enforced prolonged and strict lockdowns after infections took off.

00:09:34.000 Others, like Sweden, preferred a more relaxed approach.

00:09:37.000 Portugal and Greece chose to close down while cases were relatively low.

00:09:40.000 France and the UK took longer.

00:09:42.000 But there is little correlation between the severity of a nation's restrictions and whether it managed to curb excess fatalities, a measure that looks at the overall number of deaths compared with normal trends.

00:09:51.000 So among the countries that have very high, extremely high excess mortality, you're looking at England being in that group.

00:09:59.000 Italy is in that group.

00:10:01.000 On the low end of the group is Berlin.

00:10:03.000 Sweden is sort of somewhere in the middle of the pack in terms of excess mortality.

00:10:06.000 So the UK, Netherlands, and Spain had very, very high excess mortality.

00:10:10.000 Sweden and Switzerland, they had excess mortality, but significantly less than the first group.

00:10:14.000 And then there was Greece and Germany.

00:10:16.000 So according to that Bloomberg study, the overall impression is that while restrictions on movement were seen as a necessary tool to halt the spread of the virus, when and how they were wielded was more important than their severity.

00:10:25.000 Early preparation, plentiful healthcare resources were enough for several countries to avoid draconian lockdowns.

00:10:30.000 So in other words, the faster you got on it, the less it mattered whether you locked down.

00:10:33.000 If you got on it really fast and you were able to test really fast, you didn't have to lock down in the first place.

00:10:38.000 So it was the timing and not actually the lockdown measures that mattered.

00:10:41.000 Which is why Vermont, which was not hard hit, it doesn't matter whether they locked down or not because, again, they weren't hard hit.

00:10:46.000 South Dakota, which was not hard hit, didn't matter whether they locked down or not because they weren't hard hit.

00:10:50.000 New York, it would have mattered an awful lot if they had locked down a little bit earlier.

00:10:54.000 In fact, there was a study out today suggesting that many, many fewer people would have died in New York if they had actually locked down much sooner.

00:11:03.000 These modelers in the United States, again, suggest that tens of thousands of U.S.

00:11:06.000 deaths could have been prevented if everybody locked down a lot earlier, but that was mostly in places like New York.

00:11:12.000 They suggest that if the lockdown had happened early March, like a week earlier, then it could have prevented some 36,000 deaths.

00:11:19.000 My only doubt about that is if these deaths were taking place at nursing homes, and if people with COVID-19 were being shoved back into the nursing homes, and 40, 50% of all deaths were happening in nursing homes, I'm not sure that that is exactly the case.

00:11:33.000 But the media are pushing this a little bit because the idea is that if you precipitously remove lockdown, then you're going to have a second wave spike that's going to swamp the system.

00:11:41.000 Again, I think that the data for that are very much up in the air.

00:11:45.000 I do not think the data are very clear.

00:11:46.000 Now, as I say, the media are definitely attempting to push a particular narrative here.

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00:13:12.000 So in another example of the media just blatantly miscovering the news, blatantly miscovering it, there's a piece at the L.A.

00:13:18.000 Times by Hannah Fry, Rongon Lin II, Luke Money, and Colleen Shelby, so half the team.

00:13:23.000 It's called, A New Hive for Coronavirus Deaths in California as Counties Push Ahead with Reopening.

00:13:27.000 So what would you get from that headline?

00:13:29.000 What you would get from that headline is, this is risky, guys.

00:13:31.000 We can't reopen while there's a high in deaths.

00:13:34.000 I mean, are we crazy?

00:13:34.000 We just had the daily high in deaths.

00:13:37.000 And here you are, pushing for precipitous reopening.

00:13:40.000 And then you read the article, and here's what you find.

00:13:42.000 They say California recorded 132 new coronavirus-related fatalities Tuesday, the most in a single day since the pandemic began, as counties across the state continue cementing plans to reopen their economies.

00:13:51.000 First of all, note, California has 40 million people living here.

00:13:55.000 132 deaths?

00:13:57.000 Every one of those is a tragedy.

00:13:58.000 Every one of those is horrible.

00:13:59.000 Statistically speaking, that is not a massive number in the state of California.

00:14:03.000 The highest number of deaths previously reported in a single day statewide was 117 in late April.

00:14:08.000 So this was the highest day, but that's because California has not been particularly hard hit by the coronavirus in terms of number of deaths.

00:14:13.000 But that's not even what I'm talking about here.

00:14:14.000 What I'm talking about is buried in paragraph six, is while the death count continues to rise, other metrics show significant progress, enough that even some of the most cautious local health officials have agreed to begin slowly reopening businesses and public spaces.

00:14:28.000 The number of newly identified coronavirus cases across California declined from the previous week.

00:14:33.000 Hospitalizations have dropped more than 15% from a peak six weeks ago, according to a Times analysis.

00:14:39.000 So, the peak happened six weeks ago.

00:14:41.000 There's a trailing number of deaths because, again, there are a lot of people in the hospital who linger before, unfortunately, they pass away.

00:14:48.000 Hospitalizations have dropped more than 15%.

00:14:50.000 By the way, I know a bunch of people who work in hospitals in this region, in this area, they're empty.

00:14:54.000 The hospitals are completely empty.

00:14:56.000 People who are going in and staffing the hospitals and literally sitting there watching Netflix all day because they do not have any patients.

00:15:01.000 Patients are not showing up to the hospitals.

00:15:03.000 My wife had to go in for a COVID test maybe a week and a half ago. 0.99

00:15:06.000 She was literally the only person in the COVID room waiting for a test at UCLA.

00:15:09.000 The only person!

00:15:11.000 And UCLA is a rather major hospital.

00:15:13.000 County, which has become the center of the coronavirus outbreak in California with more than 1,900 deaths and nearly 40,000 cases, officials have cautioned that reopening the economy will be more difficult than in other parts of the state.

00:15:13.000 In L.A.

00:15:24.000 But the reality is that outside of L.A.

00:15:25.000 County, There are not a lot of cases.

00:15:28.000 And again, the peak has been reached in California for weeks at this point.

00:15:33.000 And yet the headline there is, record number of deaths in California.

00:15:37.000 This sort of media coverage is irresponsible.

00:15:39.000 The headline does not match the actual content of the piece.

00:15:41.000 The headline should be, California hits high in deaths, but other indicators show it's on the downswing.

00:15:49.000 That would be the accurate headline.

00:15:52.000 Not, look at these crazy people reopening as we've hit a maximum number of deaths.

00:15:55.000 That's a lagging indicator.

00:15:56.000 It is not a good indicator.

00:15:58.000 And then you see headlines like this from the Washington Post.

00:16:00.000 Coronavirus hotspots erupt across the country.

00:16:02.000 Experts warn of second wave in South.

00:16:05.000 They say Dallas, Houston, Southeast Florida's Gold Coast, the entire state of Alabama, several other places in the South that have been rapidly reopening their economies are in danger of a second wave of coronavirus infections over the next four weeks, according to a research team that uses cell phone data to track social mobility and forecast the trajectory of the pandemic.

00:16:21.000 The model developed by the Policy Lab at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, updated Wednesday with new data, suggests most communities in the United States should be able to avoid a second wave spike in the near term if residents are careful to maintain social distancing even as businesses open up and restrictions are eased.

00:16:34.000 But the risk for resurgence is high in some parts of the country, especially in places where cases are already rising fast, including the counties of Crawford, Iowa, Colfax, Nebraska, Texas, Oklahoma, and the city of Richmond.

00:16:44.000 Since May 3rd, Crawford County caseload has risen by 750%.

00:16:49.000 There are preliminary signs that hotspots could flare across parts of the South and Midwest.

00:16:55.000 Well, because they're saying that basically they're tracking cell phone data and they're seeing people moving more.

00:16:55.000 Why?

00:17:01.000 Again, that is a model.

00:17:04.000 If you want to point to the counties where they're actually having hotspots, why don't you point to the counties where they're actually having hotspots?

00:17:09.000 Don't point to the places where they don't have hotspots yet.

00:17:13.000 Remember, the article begins by saying Dallas, Houston, Southeast Florida's Gold Coast, and Alabama.

00:17:19.000 And then, where are the actual counties they're citing that have had a spike?

00:17:22.000 Crawford, Iowa, Colfax, Nebraska, Texas, Oklahoma, and the city of Richmond.

00:17:27.000 Which, last I checked, were not Dallas, Houston, Southeast Florida's Gold Coast, and the entire state of Alabama.

00:17:31.000 Now, maybe there is going to be a spike in those places.

00:17:34.000 Maybe that's going to happen.

00:17:35.000 But to headline, the headline again was, coronavirus hotspots erupt across the country.

00:17:40.000 Experts warn of second wave in South.

00:17:43.000 That makes it sound like, oh, you know, like the most populous areas in America are about to get just absolutely savaged.

00:17:47.000 We've been hearing that about Georgia for a month.

00:17:49.000 Georgia hit a low in number of diagnosed cases yesterday.

00:17:53.000 We have a surplus of testing capacity in most states and people not taking advantage of the tests.

00:17:59.000 This sort of reporting is just not responsible.

00:18:01.000 It is not.

00:18:02.000 It is not reflective of reality.

00:18:05.000 We're seeing the same thing with regards to reporting on children, by the way.

00:18:08.000 There's all this reporting on how children are at risk.

00:18:11.000 We can't reopen the schools.

00:18:12.000 Washington, D.C., I believe, just announced they're not going to reopen the schools in September, which is crazy.

00:18:16.000 It's May.

00:18:17.000 How are you going to announce what the hell you're doing in September?

00:18:20.000 I would not be shocked to see L.A.

00:18:21.000 County do exactly the same thing, saying we're not reopening the schools.

00:18:24.000 By the way, Taiwan never closed its schools.

00:18:26.000 Denmark never closed its schools.

00:18:28.000 Because you know what they kind of figured out early?

00:18:30.000 Kids are not passing this thing, at least not very easily by all available studies.

00:18:34.000 There has yet to be a single study showing that kids are passing this thing at the same rate as adults.

00:18:38.000 There has yet to be a single study showing there's significant risk to children.

00:18:40.000 In fact, the fatality rate from COVID-19 among children is about one-third that from the flu.

00:18:45.000 Okay, among older people, it's a lot more than the flu. 0.99

00:18:48.000 Among younger people, like, not tranching the population when you look at the overall case fatality rate or infection fatality rate is really, really stupid.

00:18:56.000 And the reality is that a study in the Journal of American Medical Association Pediatrics last week found that only 48 children, 48 total, between March 14th and April 3rd were admitted to 14 pediatric ICUs in the US. 0.93

00:19:08.000 83% had an underlying condition.

00:19:10.000 That's 48 children total in like three weeks.

00:19:14.000 In that same period, tens of thousands of Americans were dying.

00:19:18.000 The fatality rate for kids in the ICU was 5% compared to 50 to 62% for adults.

00:19:24.000 Also, kids don't seem to be carrying this thing at the same rate.

00:19:28.000 There have been a bevy of studies from a variety of sources, ranging from Australia to China, showing that kids were more likely to pick up the virus from their parents than vice versa, and that they're really not passing it to adults.

00:19:38.000 Australia's National Center for Immunization Research and Surveillance tracked COVID-19 cases at 15 schools from March 1st to April 16th.

00:19:44.000 At the outset, 18 individuals were infected.

00:19:46.000 After six weeks, two of their 863 close contacts at the school had become infected.

00:19:52.000 So kids are not passing this at school, is what we have been finding in a fair number of these studies.

00:19:58.000 And as for the reporting about this sort of Kawasaki disease syndrome that has been popping up, that is among a vast, vast, vast minority of kids.

00:20:09.000 So how was that reported?

00:20:11.000 It was reported as top line news in every major newspaper.

00:20:14.000 Now again, I think that we should all be cautious.

00:20:17.000 None of this... I keep saying this over and over because people deliberately in the media will misread anything to suggest that if you are skeptical of full-scale lockdown, it's because you want everybody to just ignore all the social distancing and mask wearing requirements.

00:20:28.000 There are some people who are doing that.

00:20:30.000 It is a small percentage of people.

00:20:31.000 The vast majority of people are up for the, I'm gonna wear a mask when I go out and when I'm with vulnerable people.

00:20:36.000 Most people are up for that.

00:20:39.000 But the media coverage here is just, it truly is astonishing because again, they will say that states that have not yet been hit hard are about to get hit hard. 0.80

00:20:46.000 Meanwhile, they will just frankly cover up for governors who have done an absolute garbage job.

00:20:52.000 And take for example, I mean, they're ripping governors who have never fully locked down and they are just praising governors who locked down but did a garbage job.

00:21:01.000 Take, for example, the most trusted name in news over at CNN.

00:21:03.000 First of all, I don't know how it's journalistically ethical to have Chris Cuomo covering his brother.

00:21:09.000 I was under the misimpression that if you are actually related to the person you are covering, that generally is not good journalistic practice.

00:21:16.000 Wait until you hear Chris Cuomo doing his buddy cop routine with his broheim last night on CNN.

00:21:24.000 Pretty astonishing stuff.

00:21:25.000 Most trusted name in news.

00:21:26.000 We'll get to that in just one second.

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00:22:35.000 All right, so let's talk about the media's differential coverage of states.

00:22:38.000 We've talked about, sort of broadly speaking, the media trying to play up bad news everywhere that they possibly can, including basing it on the modeling, as opposed to, you know, basing it on the actual outcome in places like Georgia.

00:22:48.000 Remember, by the way, when we were talking about the dire outcomes for ventilators, how ventilators were necessary?

00:22:53.000 More and more ventilators, everybody's gonna die without a ventilator?

00:22:56.000 Turns out that the vast majority of people who are on ventilators died.

00:23:01.000 So, I mean, and that just disappeared from the news.

00:23:04.000 Meanwhile, by the way, Georgia, which is supposed to be, you know, completely ripped up, only 866 ventilators are in use in Georgia.

00:23:12.000 They have a supply of nearly 3,000 ventilators.

00:23:15.000 But don't worry, the media are going to rely on projections that have been wrong in virtually every state here.

00:23:20.000 And that's not to say that we should disregard the projections.

00:23:23.000 It is to say that the projections change based on new data as it comes in.

00:23:26.000 We just don't know very much about how this virus operates.

00:23:30.000 Okay, so, meanwhile, the media have been covering states differentially.

00:23:33.000 I will explain, you know, a perfect example.

00:23:36.000 Florida, Ron DeSantis ripped up and down, up and down.

00:23:39.000 We talked yesterday on the program about how Ron DeSantis is one of the few governors who actually took the proactive step of saying, we are not shipping patients with COVID-19 who are in nursing homes back into nursing homes.

00:23:48.000 But meanwhile, he's being ripped for keeping the beaches open.

00:23:50.000 Well, yesterday, Ron DeSantis went on a tear against the media.

00:23:53.000 I mean, honestly, I've been waiting months for him to do this.

00:23:55.000 Here he was yesterday, just blowing, blowing through the media.

00:23:58.000 It was pretty great.

00:24:00.000 Our data is available.

00:24:02.000 Our data is transparent.

00:24:03.000 In fact, Dr. Birx has talked multiple times about how Florida has the absolute best data.

00:24:10.000 So any insinuation otherwise is just typical partisan narrative trying to be spun.

00:24:17.000 And part of the reason is that because you got a lot of people in your profession who waxed poetically for weeks and weeks about how Florida was going to be just like New York.

00:24:26.000 Wait two weeks, Florida's gonna be next. 0.51

00:24:28.000 Just like Italy, wait two weeks. 0.93

00:24:30.000 Well, hell, we're eight weeks away from that, and it hasn't happened.

00:24:33.000 Not only do we have a lower death rate, well, we have way lower deaths generally, we have a lower death rate than the Acela corridor, D.C., everyone up there.

00:24:41.000 We have a lower death rate than the Midwest, Illinois, Michigan, Indiana, Ohio.

00:24:46.000 But even in our region, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, Florida has the lower death rate, and I was the number one landing spot from tens of thousands of people leaving the number one hot zone in the world to come to my state.

00:25:01.000 So we've succeeded.

00:25:03.000 And I think that people just don't want to recognize it because it challenges their narrative.

00:25:08.000 It challenges their assumption.

00:25:10.000 So they got to try to find a boogeyman.

00:25:12.000 Maybe it's that there are black helicopters circling the Department of Health.

00:25:16.000 If you believe that, I got a bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell you.

00:25:20.000 Good for him.

00:25:21.000 Seriously, good for him.

00:25:22.000 He's exactly right on all this.

00:25:24.000 Meanwhile, you have Chris Cuomo, who's basically just giving his brother a massage on national TV every night.

00:25:29.000 Last night, Chris Cuomo... Has Chris Cuomo ever asked his brother about protecting nursing homes?

00:25:33.000 Of course not.

00:25:34.000 But you know what he did do?

00:25:35.000 He did some buddy comedy about how his brother has a big nose and here's a giant nasal swab for you.

00:25:40.000 This is the normal swab I'm holding up here now and for everybody at home. 0.88

00:25:45.000 A very valuable object.

00:25:46.000 There's only one company in the entire country that makes these up in Maine.

00:25:50.000 Alright, here's the swab.

00:25:51.000 Is it true that this was the swab that the nurse was actually using on you and that at first It went into your nose and disappeared so that in scale, this was the actual swab that was being used to fit up that double barrel shotgun that you have mounted on the front of your pretty face.

00:26:18.000 So much newsing happening over at CNN.

00:26:20.000 There's great newsing happening over at CNN.

00:26:23.000 That guy is the worst governor in America.

00:26:25.000 His state has experienced 30,000 deaths.

00:26:30.000 I.E., 15 times more deaths than Florida, which has a similar population. 0.82

00:26:33.000 That dude is a terrible governor.

00:26:35.000 But his bro is on CNN.

00:26:37.000 And by the way, his bro, who's breaking quarantine and taking bleach baths in order to fight his own coronavirus, is your most trusted name in scientific news on CNN.

00:26:44.000 And then people wonder why the right looks at CNN cross-eyed.

00:26:47.000 Because you guys are terrible at your jobs.

00:26:49.000 Meanwhile, how has your coverage been of Phil Murphy in New Jersey?

00:26:53.000 That has been widely praised across the media.

00:26:54.000 Look at him.

00:26:55.000 He's so strong on these lockdowns, Phil Murphy.

00:26:57.000 Look how he's shutting down these gyms.

00:26:58.000 I mean, what a stud Phil Murphy is.

00:27:01.000 It turns out that 1 in 13 people in nursing homes in New Jersey is dead.

00:27:06.000 1 in 13 is dead.

00:27:08.000 That's Phil Murphy's state.

00:27:10.000 Why?

00:27:10.000 Because it turns out that the state did virtually nothing to protect people in nursing homes.

00:27:15.000 NewJersey.com reports, knowing nursing home residents were at grave risk, state inspectors did not begin to make on-site inspections until April 16th, according to officials.

00:27:23.000 That was 36 days after New Jersey reported its first death, not until reports surfaced that one nursing facility was storing 17 bodies in a makeshift morgue.

00:27:31.000 Asked why teams were not sent earlier, state health commissioner Judith Pershelli said in mid-April they didn't have proper fitting masks.

00:27:37.000 She said she later gave hospitals first dibs on PPE, and she left a short supply of ill-fitting masks for nursing home inspectors.

00:27:43.000 So, for weeks, they just didn't get any PPE, which meant that some 89 people in nursing homes who worked there died.

00:27:50.000 When nursing home operators urgently called for staffing help, they received little assistance.

00:27:53.000 The National Guard was not deployed until May.

00:27:55.000 The state health department didn't announce until earlier this month it would even conduct widespread testing of nursing home residents.

00:28:01.000 Earlier this month, May, this thing broke out in March.

00:28:04.000 The health department refused to publish a list of positive COVID-19 cases until three weeks after families pled with them to tell them what the hell was going on.

00:28:12.000 And you've been seeing this in state after state.

00:28:15.000 In Pennsylvania, which has been fairly hard hit, the state health director was taking He's a transgender woman, his own mother out of a nursing home facility, age 95, while simultaneously maintaining that nursing home facilities should take in people who had COVID-19.

00:28:31.000 Have you heard any critique of the governorship of Tom Wolfe in Pennsylvania?

00:28:35.000 No, you have not.

00:28:38.000 Only Ron DeSantis, only Brian Kemp.

00:28:40.000 The differential media coverage is astonishing.

00:28:42.000 It's astonishing.

00:28:43.000 So, which is it?

00:28:44.000 Does the media love lockdown?

00:28:45.000 And therefore, are they praising governors who participate in lockdown?

00:28:48.000 Or is it the media and the Democrats basically have the same idea?

00:28:51.000 Which is, they all have the same sort of political biases.

00:28:54.000 If Democrats embrace a policy, so do the media, because they are one and the same.

00:28:57.000 I shouldn't be asking why the media repeat Democratic talking points.

00:29:01.000 The real question is why I'm even separating Democrats and the media, because they basically are the same thing at this point.

00:29:06.000 Huge swaths of the so-called objective media are just Democratic aides at this point in time.

00:29:12.000 And by the way, you can also see this when you talk about the coverage of the Michael Flynn story.

00:29:18.000 So we have been told that the Michael Flynn story is a complete non-story.

00:29:21.000 It's a nothing burger.

00:29:23.000 And in fact, it's wrong to even cover it.

00:29:24.000 You shouldn't cover the Michael Flynn story.

00:29:26.000 You should only cover the Michael Flynn story when Michael Flynn was essentially being railroaded into pleading guilty on the basis of not committing a crime.

00:29:32.000 But you shouldn't cover it when it turns out the DOJ completely drops the case because it was botched from beginning to end, because the investigation never should have been maintained after early January, and because it turns out that high-ranking members of the Obama administration were involved in oversight of the Flynn matter.

00:29:46.000 Now we should just kind of let it go.

00:29:47.000 Why can't you guys just let this go?

00:29:48.000 I mean, it's been 27 minutes since the story broke.

00:29:50.000 Why can't you let the story go?

00:29:52.000 The media wish to, wish to ignore this as long as possible.

00:29:56.000 You've had editorial after editorial in major American newspapers saying, well, now why would we cover this?

00:30:00.000 This is not worth covering.

00:30:01.000 Brian Stelter, the watchdog at TNN.

00:30:03.000 Why are you covering this?

00:30:04.000 I don't know. 0.99

00:30:04.000 He spent three years covering Trump-Russia allegations that turned out to be a bowl of crap. 0.99

00:30:09.000 Why shouldn't we cover a story in which it seems that members of the Obama administration were pretty intent on bending the rules, even if they were well-intentioned and thought that there was Trump-Russia collusion. 0.97

00:30:19.000 Bending the rules in order to get people?

00:30:21.000 Typically not good practice.

00:30:22.000 And if Trump had done it about Obama incoming, you think that everybody would be quite so sanguine?

00:30:27.000 Of course not.

00:30:27.000 They're not even sanguine about the fact that the Senate Intelligence Committee is now looking into Hunter Biden.

00:30:32.000 So why would they be sanguine if Trump were going after an Obama National Security Advisor?

00:30:36.000 If Trump were basically unmasking Susan Rice, would they be super happy about that?

00:30:41.000 Especially if you're unmasking Susan Rice in front of half the administration and then it leaked to the press?

00:30:45.000 Would that be a genius move?

00:30:47.000 We'll get to this in just one second.

00:30:49.000 Because again, the media coverage here, it just demonstrates Democrats must have a 10-point advantage in nearly every national election simply based on the media coverage.

00:30:57.000 That does not alleviate the responsibility for Republicans to be better at their jobs, but it is simply the case that Democrats have a massive built-in advantage here.

00:31:06.000 We'll get to the Michael Flynn case and the 2020 election in just one second.

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00:32:31.000 All righty.

00:32:38.000 So looking at the media coverage of the of the Flynn situation, if you really want to understand media coverage, just assume they're Democrats.

00:32:46.000 And then it all makes sense.

00:32:47.000 So, for example, there was a memo that was covered as a complete non-story.

00:32:52.000 By Susan Rice.

00:32:54.000 It was put out January 20th, like the last day of the Obama administration.

00:32:57.000 And the memo basically said, we should really, you know, we really handled and should handle this whole Michael Flynn thing by the book.

00:33:03.000 It was a memo to file.

00:33:05.000 We have no idea what the file was. 0.99

00:33:06.000 That's what you call a cover your ass memo. 0.97

00:33:08.000 That is a memo that is designed to say, yeah, we told, listen, we told everybody by the book. 0.97

00:33:13.000 The only reason to write that is because you don't actually feel that you did something by the book.

00:33:17.000 And you're now trying to cover up for the fact that you didn't go by the book in the first place.

00:33:21.000 Andrew McCarthy over at National Review has a good piece on this.

00:33:26.000 He says Rice, Susan Rice, has gone from claiming to have had no knowledge of Obama administration monitoring of Flynn and other Trump associates, to claiming no knowledge of any unmaskings of Trump associates, to admitting she was complicit in the unmaskings, to now a call for a recorded conversation between retired general Michael Flynn and the Russian ambassador Sergei Kislyak.

00:33:43.000 She wants that released because it would purportedly show the Obama administration had good reason to be concerned about Flynn.

00:33:47.000 By the way, if that's the case, that doesn't really explain why the, why the, People who are on Mike Flynn's side also are kind of in favor of seeing this released.

00:33:59.000 Apparently Flynn's own lawyers are interested in seeing the call released simply so they can demonstrate that there is nothing there that would have justified the sort of wiretapping that went on afterward.

00:34:10.000 Andrew McCarthy says, We have now learned that Rice was deeply involved in the Obama administration's Trump-Russia investigation, including its sub-investigation of Flynn.

00:34:18.000 And also, Rice's previously unreported email memorializing a White House meeting on these subjects from January 20th is kind of telling.

00:34:24.000 Again, why would you write a memo to file saying, we went right by the book, unless it were absolutely necessary?

00:34:30.000 Maybe it's to comment on a meeting that took place January 5th that involved Rice, Obama, Biden, the administration's top political hierarchy and national security matters, along with Obama's top law enforcement and counterintelligence officials, Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates, and FBI Director James Comey.

00:34:44.000 Prior to actions already demonstrated, the meeting's central purpose was to discuss the rationale for withholding intelligence about Russia from the incoming Trump national security team.

00:34:54.000 Comey would join other intelligence chiefs in briefing Trump on Russia's interference in the 2016 campaign, but they did conceal the Obama administration's investigation of the Trump campaign.

00:35:04.000 The Obama administration hoped to conceal what he had done, so the FBI and Justice Department, which Comey and Yates would be staying on to lead, could continue the investigation even after Trump took office.

00:35:12.000 And they did just that.

00:35:13.000 The Bureau and DOJ renewed the FISA surveillance warrants on Carter Page, which again, were deeply flawed and based on the crap Steele dossier.

00:35:21.000 They renewed it twice more.

00:35:23.000 Clearly, Rice, Obama, and Biden realized who would eventually become known to Trump and top advisors.

00:35:28.000 That the Obama administration had investigated his campaign and had laid the groundwork to persist in investigating his administration.

00:35:34.000 The patent point of Rice's last second email written to the file as she was leaving her office on January 20th, memorializing a meeting that occurred two weeks earlier, was to shift responsibility from Obama to Comey for the pursuit of the Trump-Russia probe, right?

00:35:45.000 It says, Obama says that we should do this thing by the book and James Comey's gonna do what James Comey's going to do.

00:35:51.000 That's essentially what the letter was supposed to do.

00:35:53.000 The newly unredacted paragraph from Rice's email relates that Comey reported to Obama, Biden, and Rice on the FBI's investigation of Flynn.

00:35:59.000 The FBI director is said to have framed it as both a law enforcement matter, the theory that Flynn committed a crime by violating the Logan Act, which was nonsense, and a national security matter, the suggestion that the bureau had some sort of damning information on Flynn that should prevent him from being part of the apparatus.

00:36:14.000 According to Rice, Comey was noncommittal when asked whether Russian intelligence should be withheld from Flynn.

00:36:20.000 Rice claims Obama left the matter of concealing information from the Trump team unresolved.

00:36:24.000 Now again, this memo was written two weeks after the original Trump meeting.

00:36:29.000 So all of this is deeply suspicious and curious, but the media suggests that none of it is worth covering.

00:36:35.000 It just isn't worth covering.

00:36:36.000 And the reason it isn't worth covering is because obviously, if we were to cover it, then that would be suggesting that the Obama administration was not pure as the driven snow, and was indeed driven by ulterior motives, even if they thought those motives were good, like Trump is in bed with the Russians.

00:36:49.000 It turns out that bending the law in order to get there, and then railroading someone into essentially a confession of a crime he didn't commit is a bad thing.

00:36:59.000 But we're not supposed to cover all that, according to the media.

00:37:01.000 What we are supposed to cover is President Trump firing inspectors general.

00:37:06.000 So there have been a couple inspectors general who have been fired.

00:37:10.000 Credit to producer Nick for correcting me on inspector generals.

00:37:13.000 Inspectors general.

00:37:14.000 So, President Trump has fired a couple of inspectors general.

00:37:18.000 He specifically fired one over at the State Department.

00:37:21.000 And the idea was that Mike Pompeo had this guy fired because he was so close to the truth, so close to the truth.

00:37:26.000 Pompeo yesterday came out and he was like, yes, I had him fired.

00:37:29.000 Yes, there's plenty of good reason I had him fired.

00:37:31.000 No, it wasn't because he was investigating me.

00:37:33.000 This didn't stop Chuck Schumer from bloviating on about it, obviously, without all the information.

00:37:37.000 That's the way this works.

00:37:38.000 And so here is Chuck Schumer yesterday saying, it's a dictatorship, dictatorship!

00:37:42.000 The Inspector General should have been allowed to pursue these cases on his own, without interference from either the Secretary of State, and certainly without being fired by the President.

00:37:54.000 It's outrageous.

00:37:56.000 It's outrageous.

00:37:57.000 And he's done this time and time again.

00:37:59.000 The head of BARDA.

00:38:00.000 The head of BARDA said hydroxychloroquine is bad for you.

00:38:03.000 Trump didn't like to hear that.

00:38:04.000 He fired the guy.

00:38:06.000 It's like a dictatorship.

00:38:07.000 It's not like a democracy.

00:38:08.000 We depend on truth in this democracy, and this president runs away from it, and it's hurting the American people every single day.

00:38:17.000 I'm sorry, such patent nonsense.

00:38:18.000 That story about Rick Bright?

00:38:20.000 The guy was on the chopping block for a year, and he had sent memos to people saying that he was glad that they were expediting the hydroxychloroquine clearance for doctors.

00:38:28.000 So we've seen in the last month a bevy of stories about Trump randomly firing people and how it has to be nefarious and it has to be really bad.

00:38:36.000 But if you ever mentioned, by the way, that the Obama administration actually fired people under some pretty curious circumstances, we shouldn't talk about that.

00:38:43.000 Very bad that the State Department IG got fired.

00:38:46.000 Very non-worthy of coverage, that back during the Obama administration, the Inspector General Gerald Walpin was fired for trying to protect taxpayer dollars, basically because Walpin was going after the mayor of Sacramento, a guy named Kevin Johnson, who happened to be an extraordinarily close political ally of Barack Obama.

00:39:03.000 I talk about this in my book, The People vs. Barack Obama.

00:39:05.000 But it wasn't covered as a major scandal for Obama.

00:39:09.000 Anytime Trump does something, it's covered as a major scandal.

00:39:12.000 For this reason among others, President Trump is now trailing Joe Biden by significant points.

00:39:16.000 Now listen, I'm not going to put that all in the media.

00:39:18.000 The media coverage of Trump has been consistently bad, obviously.

00:39:21.000 It was consistently bad of Bush also.

00:39:23.000 It was consistently bad of Romney. 1.00

00:39:25.000 It doesn't alleviate Trump's responsibility not to get involved in stupid poop fights with various Democrats. 0.99

00:39:31.000 But The media certainly play a major role here. 0.99

00:39:34.000 There's a massive gap in the polls between Americans right now.

00:39:38.000 So right now, there's an 11 point Biden lead, 50 to 39.

00:39:41.000 On the president's handling of the economy, 50% of people still approve, 47% of people disapprove.

00:39:48.000 That is a slight decrease for Trump compared to a 51 to 44 gap in April.

00:39:53.000 On healthcare, the president is underwater by about 13 points.

00:39:59.000 On Trump versus Biden, Biden outscores Trump on honesty, 47 to 41.

00:40:04.000 People think that Trump is not honest, 62 to 34.

00:40:06.000 They say that Biden has good leadership skills, 51 to 40%.

00:40:10.000 They say Trump does not, 58 to 40%.

00:40:12.000 They say that Biden cares about average Americans, 61 to 30.

00:40:14.000 Trump does not, 56 to 42.

00:40:18.000 He's not supremely favorable Biden.

00:40:20.000 He's got like a 45% approval rating.

00:40:23.000 Trump has about a 40% approval rating.

00:40:26.000 By a 16 point margin, 55 to 39 voters think that Biden would do a better job than Trump handling the response to the coronavirus.

00:40:33.000 And that would be the big one right now.

00:40:36.000 That's the thing that is really changing fairly significantly, is people's reactions to Trump and coronavirus.

00:40:40.000 And again, a lot of that is driven by the media.

00:40:43.000 And some of that is driven by the fact that Trump keeps getting caught in his own silliness when he talks about this sort of stuff.

00:40:49.000 But the reality is that if the media covered any of this stuff in even-handed fashion, the gap would be smaller.

00:40:53.000 Not because they would be portraying Trump any more credibly, but because they would be pointing out that the Democrats are absolutely awful at this.

00:41:00.000 For example, Joe Biden, who is now, you know, right now, if the election were held today, he would probably win.

00:41:04.000 Joe Biden literally cannot get through six sentences without stumbling.

00:41:07.000 It's incredible.

00:41:09.000 Biden literally forgot what he was talking about last night in another virtual roundtable.

00:41:15.000 There's a lot we can do that related to what has already been passed for small businesses that the president just hasn't done.

00:41:24.000 Look, you know, a combination of failing to move quickly He's not there.

00:41:35.000 Guys, he's not there.

00:41:37.000 If you talk about he's not there, then apparently you're ageist or something.

00:41:39.000 But he's not all there.

00:41:41.000 Meanwhile, Nancy Pelosi, our mature leader.

00:41:44.000 Jennifer Rubin says she's a godsend to the country because Jennifer Rubin's a good conservative columnist at the Washington Post.

00:41:50.000 Nancy Pelosi has now been relegated.

00:41:52.000 Is it that as our politicians get older, their insults get more childish?

00:41:55.000 Here's Nancy Pelosi saying that Trump is like a child with doggy-do on his shoes. 0.62

00:41:59.000 Doggy-do?

00:42:00.000 What are we, in second grade here?

00:42:02.000 Here's Nancy Pelosi.

00:42:04.000 You're asking me about the appropriateness of the actions of this President of the United States?

00:42:10.000 So completely inappropriate in so many ways that it's almost a given.

00:42:16.000 It's like a child who comes in with mud on their pants or something.

00:42:21.000 That's the way it is.

00:42:22.000 They're outside playing.

00:42:24.000 He comes in with Doggy-do on his shoes.

00:42:28.000 And everybody who works with him has that on their shoes, too, for a very long time to come.

00:42:36.000 Doggy-do on his shoes.

00:42:37.000 We've been reduced to morbidly obese. 1.00

00:42:39.000 No, you're crazy. 1.00

00:42:40.000 You have doggy-do on your shoes. 1.00

00:42:42.000 What in the?

00:42:43.000 We're like five seconds from I'm rubber and you're glue, right?

00:42:47.000 We are five seconds from that in this country.

00:42:49.000 So this is honestly, this is the best case for Trump.

00:42:50.000 The best case for Trump is everybody's incompetent and you want them all out of your lives.

00:42:53.000 That is the best case for Trump.

00:42:55.000 And never has that been better accentuated than by the fact that Kamala Harris, who may be the frontrunner to get the VP nomination from Joe Biden, for no reason at all, she won nine votes.

00:43:03.000 Like, seriously, no votes in any of the primaries.

00:43:06.000 For some reason, people think that she would strengthen Joe Biden's ticket, which makes no sense at all.

00:43:11.000 She doesn't bring anybody home to Joe Biden.

00:43:13.000 Joe Biden blew her out with black voters. 0.86

00:43:15.000 Nobody likes Kamala Harris, yet she is perceived as some sort of important voice to be added to the ticket. 0.98

00:43:22.000 What's she been doing for the past couple of weeks? 1.00

00:43:24.000 She has filed for a resolution condemning all forms of anti-Asian sentiment related to COVID-19, including the use of the terms Chinese virus or Wuhan virus, or Kung flu. 0.82

00:43:36.000 She has introduced Senate Resolution 580, which is co-sponsored by Elizabeth Warren and Maisie Hirono of Hawaii, who has taken Barbara Boxer's slot as dumbest U.S. 1.00

00:43:45.000 Senator.

00:43:47.000 They say that public officials should denounce such rhetoric in any form.

00:43:51.000 It also calls on law enforcement officials to investigate, document, prosecute the perpetrators of hate crimes against Asian Americans.

00:43:56.000 By the way, not tons of data suggesting a radical increase in hate crimes against Asian Americans. 0.99

00:44:00.000 Obviously, when we talk about people being idiots and targeting Asian Americans, even Trump has repeatedly condemned that. 0.99

00:44:06.000 But, like, are you kidding me? 1.00

00:44:08.000 That Kamala Harris is concerned right now about calling it the Chinese flu?

00:44:12.000 Like, this is where we are?

00:44:15.000 Our politicians are our joke.

00:44:17.000 Like, nearly all of them.

00:44:19.000 There are very few competent politicians.

00:44:19.000 Nearly all of them.

00:44:22.000 That is the best case for Trump.

00:44:23.000 Not that he's supremely competent, but that everybody else is similarly incompetent, and at least he doesn't want to control your life.

00:44:28.000 Trump ain't the authoritarian here.

00:44:30.000 Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer are the authoritarians here.

00:44:33.000 I've been saying for a long time, the pandemic is one of the times when I'm most grateful that Trump is president, because if a Democrat were president, can you imagine the kinds of federal control they would be attempting to leverage over every aspect of American life right now?

00:44:44.000 Instead of trying to get the economy to reopen, they would be talking about the sort of transformational change that Joe Biden has gotten very familiar with talking about.

00:44:52.000 So, the media will do their best to obscure that, but that's what the election really should be about.

00:44:57.000 What the election should be about is who wants to control your life more in the aftermath of the greatest single crackdown on American freedom in certainly my lifetime, certainly my parents' lifetime.

00:45:08.000 Who do you want in there? 1.00

00:45:10.000 Somebody who wants more control or somebody who wants less control?

00:45:12.000 Okay, time for some things that I hate.

00:45:13.000 Alrighty, so we obviously have a serious problem of supply and demand in this country when it comes to racism.

00:45:24.000 Now, there are racists out there.

00:45:25.000 There are people who are racist and do racist things.

00:45:27.000 And those people should be condemned.

00:45:29.000 Their racist behavior should be condemned.

00:45:31.000 We should all be unified in condemning that behavior.

00:45:33.000 But what we see in the way that the media cover things and the way that people respond to things online is that every small possibility of racism, anything that can be read as racism, is read to the broadest possible extent and then imputed to American society as a whole.

00:45:46.000 So, there just is not enough of a supply of racism in America to meet the demand.

00:45:51.000 There's a high demand for racism because people want to declare that America is deeply brutal, racist, homophobic, hierarchical, vicious.

00:46:00.000 They want to claim all those things.

00:46:02.000 Because that allows them to argue for the tearing down of the system, right?

00:46:04.000 This is what I talk about in my new book, How to Destroy America in Three Easy Steps.

00:46:07.000 It's coming out in July.

00:46:10.000 They require examples of American viciousness in order to justify tearing down the system from the inside, in order to justify eviscerating the system, right?

00:46:19.000 So what that means is that people will seize specifically on controversial examples of maybe racism, maybe not, in order so that when somebody says, wait, I don't actually see the evidence here, they go, ah, because you're a racist too, right?

00:46:19.000 That's the goal.

00:46:32.000 This is why, you will see, the media did not cover the Walter Scott shooting in South Carolina in the same way that they are covering the Arbery shooting in Georgia.

00:46:40.000 Why?

00:46:40.000 Not at all.

00:46:41.000 Well, the Walter Scott shooting was pretty clearly racist, right?

00:46:43.000 I mean, the cop in that case shot the guy in the back, planted a gun on the guy, and everyone went, well, that seems pretty awful.

00:46:49.000 That guy should go to jail.

00:46:50.000 And then he went to jail for 20 years.

00:46:51.000 And everybody was like, all right, good.

00:46:54.000 The Arbery shooting, There's not tons of evidence of racism inherent in the case yet.

00:46:59.000 Maybe it will materialize, but it seems like right now most of the case is vigilante-based.

00:47:05.000 People who were told that a crime was going on and decided, we're going to get our guns, we're going to stop this guy, and then they went out there and it ended in a bad shooting.

00:47:13.000 And they will probably end up going to jail for at the very least manslaughter.

00:47:16.000 But if you say, I'm not seeing all the evidence of racism yet, then the implication is, you don't see the evidence of racism because you're blind to racism generally.

00:47:23.000 Okay, perfect example of this today.

00:47:24.000 Perfect example.

00:47:24.000 So last night, on Twitter, I noticed that the hashtag BoycottFedEx was coming up.

00:47:29.000 And I thought to myself, BoycottFedEx?

00:47:31.000 FedEx is keeping the country running in the middle of a pandemic.

00:47:33.000 What the hell are you talking about?

00:47:34.000 Why would I boycott FedEx?

00:47:36.000 Okay, so there was a video that was going around by a person named Antonio Braswell.

00:47:40.000 And I'm going to play you the entire video.

00:47:41.000 It's about 45 seconds long.

00:47:43.000 And what the video shows is this fellow, I think this is Antonio Braswell or he's the guy in the truck, unclear to me which one he is.

00:47:51.000 And it's a video of a guy in a FedEx outfit who is yelling at and being filmed by what appears to be a white homeowner.

00:48:00.000 Braswell is black.

00:48:03.000 This became the basis for the number one hashtag on planet Earth last night, Boycott FedEx. 0.96

00:48:09.000 Here, I'll play the tape, then I'll explain the account, and then I'll show you how, in the absence of any actual evidence, people immediately leapt to the conclusion that FedEx is a brutal, racist company.

00:48:19.000 Here's the actual tape last night.

00:48:20.000 I watched it three times to make sure I wasn't missing anything.

00:48:24.000 But you didn't have to come out there cussing me like that like I'm some child! 1.00

00:48:27.000 I ain't no little boy!

00:48:30.000 I'm no little boy!

00:48:31.000 I'll wait till the police come.

00:48:32.000 You can record all you want, girl.

00:48:44.000 I got you.

00:48:45.000 That's where your power at right there.

00:48:47.000 That's your power.

00:48:48.000 That's his power.

00:48:50.000 That's where your power at right there.

00:48:53.000 Man, I ain't finna waste my time with you.

00:48:54.000 You got my information.

00:48:56.000 You got my information.

00:48:57.000 They'll find me.

00:48:59.000 You need to get your glasses back on.

00:48:59.000 They'll find me.

00:49:01.000 Yeah, I thought you were going to walk my ass too. 0.99

00:49:07.000 Okay, so then they take off in the car. 0.99

00:49:10.000 So is there anything?

00:49:11.000 Is there any evidence that the white guy was being racist there?

00:49:14.000 I mean, really, I don't see any evidence.

00:49:16.000 I see that the person who is driving the car is angry, and I see a confrontation, but I have no idea what led up to the confrontation.

00:49:22.000 Literally no idea.

00:49:23.000 You can't tell from the tape itself.

00:49:25.000 The white guy isn't shouting slurs at the black guy.

00:49:28.000 Right, in fact, he barely says anything.

00:49:30.000 He says, I thought you were gonna, pretty much the only thing he says is, I thought you were gonna wait for the cops.

00:49:34.000 That's pretty much the only thing he says in the entire video.

00:49:36.000 Okay, so, this fellow tweets out the backstory.

00:49:38.000 He says, he says, update, FedEx called and told me to take down this video and fired both of us today.

00:49:43.000 I'm reposting this video because people like him, doesn't matter white or any race, should never disrespect essential workers putting their lives in jeopardy, especially with this COVID-19.

00:49:51.000 Now again, I'm not seeing tremendous disrespect in that video, per se.

00:49:54.000 It looks like two people who are kind of having a fight and one is filming it.

00:49:57.000 In fact, two people were filming it, right?

00:49:58.000 Because this FedEx driver's friend inside the truck was also filming it.

00:50:03.000 So then he tells his backstory.

00:50:04.000 All we did just delivered his package.

00:50:04.000 His backstory.

00:50:07.000 Mind you, he was in the house.

00:50:08.000 It was a quick stop.

00:50:08.000 As soon as we were leaving, he ran out his house cursing and threatening us.

00:50:11.000 And we just apologized. 1.00

00:50:12.000 But he kept escalating the situation, then kept saying he would whoop our black asses. 0.99

00:50:15.000 Now, if that's caught on tape, that's a racist incident, right? 0.99

00:50:17.000 Then everybody's unified. 0.99

00:50:20.000 Because if somebody runs out of the house after a FedEx guy drops off a package, and says he's gonna whoop your black ass, then pretty sure that's racist, and pretty sure that guy is in a hell of a lot of media trouble. 0.99

00:50:30.000 Right? 1.00

00:50:31.000 And should be.

00:50:32.000 And should be.

00:50:34.000 Okay, but that part's not the part that's on tape.

00:50:37.000 So this person says, that's when we told his wife to get the police on us.

00:50:40.000 He told, that's when he kept following us.

00:50:42.000 He pulled out his phone to record us and start playing the victim role.

00:50:45.000 We drove off at first, but they yelled, F y'all.

00:50:47.000 So we stopped the truck and that's when I started recording the incident.

00:50:49.000 After the video, the police came and we told our side of the story.

00:50:52.000 And the man said to the police, they look like they would have broke into my house while my wife is there.

00:50:55.000 The white dude was lying the whole time.

00:50:57.000 Mind y'all, we all go through this all the time. 0.65

00:50:58.000 He was actually the first to come at us crazy, and all we doing is our job.

00:51:02.000 We work six days out the week to deliver these packages during this coronavirus going on.

00:51:05.000 I really appreciate the job opportunity I had with FedEx.

00:51:07.000 No hard feelings.

00:51:08.000 I pray I can get back on my feet because I have a daughter now.

00:51:10.000 Shout out to my trainer.

00:51:11.000 He a real good dude.

00:51:12.000 He taught me a lot, 100%.

00:51:13.000 Okay, so, I don't know whether this guy's story is true.

00:51:17.000 You don't have any idea whether this guy's story is true.

00:51:20.000 Presumably, there is more to the tape.

00:51:23.000 Presumably, there is a police report.

00:51:24.000 Presumably, there were several witnesses to this exchange.

00:51:28.000 Twitter didn't care.

00:51:29.000 This trended number one on Twitter.

00:51:29.000 Twitter didn't care at all.

00:51:31.000 Boycott FedEx.

00:51:32.000 Why?

00:51:33.000 Because FedEx fired these guys.

00:51:34.000 Now maybe FedEx did an investigation you never knew about.

00:51:37.000 Maybe FedEx called up the police.

00:51:39.000 Maybe FedEx called up the homeowner.

00:51:41.000 Maybe FedEx thought, you know what's actually not great policy?

00:51:43.000 Having our FedEx guys driving around taping the customers.

00:51:47.000 Even if the customers are taping us, we just have a general policy.

00:51:49.000 We don't want our employees taping and publicly posting videos of customers.

00:51:55.000 That's not an unreasonable policy for FedEx to take.

00:51:58.000 It isn't.

00:51:59.000 Okay, so this didn't matter.

00:52:02.000 The idea was boycott FedEx because FedEx was to blame.

00:52:06.000 Now again, we don't know anything about this story other than the guy's account, which we have no verification of and the tape doesn't show anything of.

00:52:11.000 Doesn't matter.

00:52:12.000 This was the number one trend in America.

00:52:16.000 Again, the supply of racism is outstripped by the demand in dramatic fashion.

00:52:21.000 People had a virtue signal to demonstrate that they took the story at face value, because if you don't take the story at face value, it means you're a racist, is the way this works now.

00:52:28.000 Online, the way that this works is an accusation is tantamount to guilt, no matter what, so long as the person who is making the accusation is part of the hierarchy of groups who have been oppressed in America before.

00:52:41.000 Another example of this.

00:52:42.000 So there's a piece at NBC News, I'm not kidding you, it's called, Why?

00:52:44.000 So what is wrong with Peloton?

00:52:45.000 during the pandemic saved me.

00:52:47.000 But the more I ride, the more weary I get.

00:52:49.000 Why?

00:52:50.000 So what is wrong with Peloton?

00:52:52.000 According to the columnist, David Kaufman, he says, the company wants to be hashtag woke.

00:52:58.000 But if I hear one more all white 1980s playlist while a white coach uses black vernacular to encourage riders, I'll scream. 0.63

00:53:04.000 So Peloton is racist because people are using 80s music, which very often is wise, like Huey Lewis in the news, and sometimes uses black vernacular when they talk?

00:53:16.000 Here's what this columnist says.

00:53:17.000 Like many people in quarantine, every day I find some time to hide from my children and hop onto my Peloton.

00:53:21.000 I love my Peloton, which, despite the hefty price tag, has much more than paid for itself in burn calories and much-needed zen.

00:53:27.000 I'm clearly not alone.

00:53:28.000 But the more I use my Peloton bicycle, the more I don't feel so good about the company behind it.

00:53:32.000 Because just as their now infamous holiday season ad last year convinced many people the company had an unacknowledged gender problem. 0.98

00:53:38.000 This is the dumbass controversy over an ad in which a husband gives his wife a Peloton bike and then she's real happy about it, which is bad. 0.83

00:53:44.000 You're never supposed to give your wife an exercise piece of equipment that she's unhappy, that she's happy about. 0.99

00:53:50.000 Because it means that you're body shaming her, gentlemen.

00:53:53.000 Now, this comment says, It's not that Peloton the company is actively racist or has even failed at being woke.

00:54:04.000 A quick spin through Peloton's app or blog reveals the brand is intentionally including racially conscious content throughout their marketing materials.

00:54:10.000 The problem is more subtle.

00:54:11.000 Subtle is code for it doesn't exist, but I'm just going to make a big deal out of it so that I can get some press.

00:54:16.000 With each bike priced at over $2,200 plus $39 per month more for streaming classes, Peloton users are typically demi-one percenters with cash to spare and homes spacious enough to house those speedy racers.

00:54:27.000 And in fact, Peloton CEO and co-founder John Foley said those users were his target demographic.

00:54:32.000 Those users must now find free hours to actually ride their bikes and run on their treadmills in between other lockdown demands, whether work conferences or Zoom classes for the kids.

00:54:41.000 The upper middle class whiteness informs everything I've experienced about Peloton's almost cultish community. 0.97

00:54:46.000 Oh, so much whiteness.

00:54:47.000 So much whiteness. 0.56

00:54:49.000 That community mostly connects during Peloton rides or runs, which are streamed into folks' homes on screens mounted on the front of their equipment.

00:54:55.000 They'll have cutesy names that indicate effort level and music genre.

00:54:57.000 Think 30-minute pop ride or 45-minute hit and hills ride, a pun playing off the acronym for high-intensity interval training and the fact that you'll be hearing whatever is atop the billboard charts at the moment.

00:55:07.000 This is where the race issue becomes most apparent because black instructors offer rides filled with typically black music, rap, Caribbean, or hip-hop, while white instructors offer ones with mostly white music, rock, pop, and heavy metal.

00:55:18.000 Though the thought that white people don't work out to rap or hip-hop music and black people don't use rock or pop music to fuel their sessions in 2020 is laughable. 0.66

00:55:26.000 Hold on. 0.94

00:55:27.000 So now you're accusing a white trainer you don't know of being a racist for not playing rap music?

00:55:33.000 First of all, I would guarantee you that a huge percentage of the pop music they are playing is from people who are of color.

00:55:38.000 They're playing probably Nicki Minaj.

00:55:39.000 They're probably playing Ariana Grande.

00:55:42.000 A huge number of those artists are people who are Black or Hispanic. 0.60

00:55:46.000 But apparently very bad, Rihanna, right? 0.96

00:55:48.000 This is very bad, very bad.

00:55:49.000 He says, the deliberateness of those choices becomes more apparent in the playlists of the rides with musical themes from a specific decade, whether the 70s, 80s, or 90s.

00:55:58.000 Also taught by mostly white instructors, such rides feature popular era hits, but from predominantly white bands.

00:56:04.000 So the 70s focused rides are all classic rock and a bit of country, the 80s rides are full of new wave, and the 90s classes are big on grunge and Dave Matthews.

00:56:11.000 It's as if black music, let alone disco or Tejano, simply didn't happen during those years.

00:56:16.000 And when black music does appear outside of hip-hop or rap, it's often part of a more specialized class category such as Groove Ride.

00:56:23.000 Are you kidding me?

00:56:24.000 Are you seriously kidding me?

00:56:26.000 So Peloton is racist now because people choose the playlist that they wish to play in order to draw a crowd that they think will show up.

00:56:34.000 Again, all this says is that America is a pretty damned great place when you have to search this hard for racism at Peloton.

00:56:42.000 And final example of this today. 0.71

00:56:44.000 So Lana Del Rey, who I'm not a Lana Del Rey fan.

00:56:48.000 I don't really listen to pop music very much.

00:56:50.000 So I don't really care.

00:56:50.000 I don't have a dog in this fight.

00:56:52.000 Lana Del Rey is now being dragged on Twitter. 0.50

00:56:54.000 Why?

00:56:55.000 Because she put out a letter today pointing out that she's been criticized for not being feminist enough in her music.

00:57:01.000 And then she says, why is it that everybody else gets to do their version of feminism, which could include cheating or stripping or being terrible, but my version of feminism, which involves me exposing my own vulnerabilities in my music, is considered very bad.

00:57:16.000 And so she has this letter.

00:57:17.000 She says, now that Doha Cat, Ariana, Camila, Cardi B, Kehlani, and Nicki Minaj and Beyonce have had number ones with songs about being sexy, wearing no clothes, effing, cheating, etc.

00:57:25.000 Can I please go back to singing about being embodied, feeling beautiful by being in love, even if the relationship is not perfect, or dancing for money, or whatever I want, without being crucified or saying that I'm glamorizing abuse?

00:57:35.000 I'm fed up with female writers and alt-singers saying I glamorize abuse when in reality I'm just a glamorous person singing about the realities of what we are all now seeing are very prevalent emotionally abusive relationships all over the world.

00:57:46.000 With all of the topics women are finally allowed to explore, I just want to say over the last 10 years, I think it's pathetic that my minor lyrical exploration detailing my sometimes submissive or passive roles in my relationships has often made people say I've set women back hundreds of years.

00:57:58.000 Let's be clear, I'm not a feminist, but there has to be a kind of place in feminism for women who look and act like me. 1.00

00:58:04.000 And she talks about, you know, some of the music that she has written, and she was ripped up and down for this because she mentioned women of color.

00:58:12.000 Lana Del Rey's a racist now. 1.00

00:58:13.000 She's a racist. 1.00

00:58:14.000 We're pointing out that there's differential treatment between versions of feminism and what women are allowed to say. 1.00

00:58:20.000 Now she's a racist. 1.00

00:58:21.000 Again, this all comes down to people are looking for a rationale for being racist.

00:58:25.000 People are looking for a rationale for suggesting that racism is rife in American society so that they can claim that the society itself is to blame for the racism.

00:58:33.000 Okay, time for a very, very quick thing I like.

00:58:35.000 There's a great book that I referred to on my All Access Live a couple of days ago called Crisis of the House Divided by Harry Jaffa.

00:58:41.000 When we talk about divisions in America, It is important to remember this is not the most divided time in American history.

00:58:46.000 There was a time when half the country actually held slaves, the greatest evil in American history by a long shot.

00:58:52.000 Harry Jaffa has a great book about the debates between Lincoln and Douglas and the reading of the Declaration of Independence into the Constitution, the second American founding that happened during the Civil War.

00:59:03.000 Those second American founders would include people like Frederick Douglass and include people like Abraham Lincoln, obviously.

00:59:07.000 It's a great book.

00:59:08.000 It is not particularly an easy read, but Harry Jaffa is one of the great American thinkers about American philosophy and particularly the Civil War.

00:59:15.000 He has a couple of fantastic books on this.

00:59:16.000 Crisis of the House Divided is an absolute classic.

00:59:18.000 You should go pick it up today.

00:59:20.000 It'll teach you a lot about American history and a ton about American philosophy.

00:59:23.000 Go check that out right now.

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01:00:17.000 The case for coronavirus hysteria collapses even further as the CDC changes its guidelines and admits the virus does not spread easily, if at all, through contaminated surfaces.

01:00:28.000 In other words, the masks and gloves are basically useless.

01:00:31.000 Republican Governor Ron DeSantis takes a victory lap, the alarmist mayor of Atlanta makes excuses, and MSNBC's Mika Scarborough has an on-air meltdown.

01:00:40.000 Then, leaked audio surfaces of Joe Biden discussing with former Ukraine President Petro Poroshenko The decision to fire that prosecutor looking into Joe's son in exchange for a billion dollar loan guarantee.

01:00:51.000 That's just the beginning of Joe's troubles.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - May 21, 2020

What If The News Is Finally Good? | Ep. 1016

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