The Ben Shapiro Show - What The HELL Are All These Drones?!

00:00:00.000 Alright folks, so apparently there are a lot of weird drones that are flying around America, particularly the East Coast and particularly military bases.

00:00:07.000 We keep hearing from the government that it's not a big deal.

00:00:09.000 They're not sure what they are.

00:00:10.000 They're not sure what to do about it, but it's no big deal.

00:00:13.000 And here is my problem.

00:00:15.000 Perhaps 15 years ago, I would have believed the government, honestly.

00:00:18.000 Perhaps 15 years ago, I would have been more apt to think, hey, they know what they're doing because no way in hell this government would allow, say, foreign drones or even domestic drones to simply hover around military facilities en masse for weeks on end.

00:00:34.000 There's no way they would do that.

00:00:36.000 And then Joe Biden was president and Joe Biden allowed a Chinese spy balloon to cross the entire continental United States without shooting it down.

00:00:42.000 And only after he got called on it did he then proceed to shoot down a bunch of weather balloons with Hellfire missiles.

00:00:48.000 So yeah, I've got some skepticism.

00:00:50.000 Again, that doesn't mean that these are Chinese drones or Iranian drones or aliens or anything like that.

00:00:56.000 Maybe it's just a bunch of people who are mistaking airplanes for drones.

00:00:59.000 That's quite possible.

00:01:00.000 The thing is, I don't actually trust the members of our government to tell us the truth, even if they knew the truth, because they have not in the past.

00:01:06.000 According to CNN.com, mysterious flying objects overhead, concern and confusion and calls for military intervention.

00:01:13.000 This isn't the plot of War of the Worlds, but rather the result of numerous unidentified possible drone sightings on the East Coast in recent weeks.

00:01:19.000 The possible drones have been spotted over residential neighborhoods, restricted sites, and critical infrastructure.

00:01:24.000 Now again, if they're floating above residential sites, I tend to think that probably these are simply domestic drones.

00:01:30.000 People who are hobbyists or something.

00:01:32.000 But, again, when you have large swarms of drones that are apparently flying near, for example, military bases in Virginia or New Jersey, I start to have some questions.

00:01:41.000 A reported drone activity prompted at least one airport, New York's Stewart International Airport, to temporarily close its runways for about an hour on Friday night.

00:01:49.000 Apparently, New York Governor Kathy Hochul on Saturday said, quote, this has gone too far and she has directed the New York State Intelligence Center to actively investigate drone sightings and coordinate with federal law enforcement to address the issue.

00:02:00.000 Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer said he's now asking the Department of Homeland Security to deploy special detection systems that use 360-degree technology to detect the drones.

00:02:09.000 He said if this technology exists for a drone to make it up in the sky, there certainly is technology that can track the craft with precision and determine what the heck is going on.

00:02:16.000 Now, the reality is it's actually quite difficult to track drones in the same way that you would track, say, a missile.

00:02:21.000 This has been a problem in Israel, for example, where the Houthis have launched several drones.

00:02:26.000 Hezbollah did as well because the drones don't travel highly above the speed of, for example, birds.

00:02:31.000 And so they create sort of a noisy signal on radar.

00:02:39.000 Had a sufficient response to this as of yet.

00:02:42.000 Alejandro Mayorkas, thank God the outgoing Department of Homeland Security secretary, he says the drone sightings are in fact real.

00:02:50.000 There's no question that people are seeing drones.

00:02:53.000 And I want to assure the American public that we, in the federal government, have deployed additional resources, personnel, technology, to assist the New Jersey State Police in addressing the drone sightings.

00:03:07.000 Some of those drone sightings are, in fact, drones.

00:03:10.000 Some are manned aircraft that are commonly mistaken for drones.

00:03:14.000 And we do see duplicative reporting.

00:03:17.000 But there's no question that drones are being sighted.

00:03:20.000 Drone sightings apparently have been reported in at least six states, New Jersey, New York, Connecticut, Pennsylvania, Massachusetts, as well as Virginia.

00:03:26.000 The sightings began November 18th near Morris County, New Jersey, according to the Federal Aviation Administration.

00:03:31.000 Now, here's the thing.

00:03:33.000 It is not only in these areas.

00:03:34.000 How do I know?

00:03:35.000 Well, because I've seen one of these drones.

00:03:37.000 I saw it on the southern border.

00:03:38.000 In fact, you can see a drone on the southern border if you go and you take a look at our series over at Daily Wire Plus, Divided States of Biden.

00:03:46.000 went down to the southern border.

00:03:47.000 We did a ride along with Border Patrol.

00:03:49.000 And it was fairly early in the evening, maybe 8 o'clock in the evening.

00:03:54.000 And suddenly, I look up and there is a drone.

00:03:57.000 And I remember turning to Border Patrol.

00:03:59.000 You can see again.

00:04:00.000 You can see this happen over at Daily Web Plus.

00:04:01.000 I turn to Border Patrol and I say, what is that?

00:04:04.000 Our producers were there too.

00:04:05.000 What is that?

00:04:06.000 They said, well, it's a drone.

00:04:07.000 I said, well, I assume that that's our drone, you know, like from our side monitoring the border.

00:04:11.000 And they said, nope, that is a drug cartel drone.

00:04:13.000 So again, the idea that there are, in fact, foreign drones flying over American soil, not only...

00:04:19.000 Do I suspect that is happening?

00:04:20.000 I know for a fact that is happening.

00:04:22.000 I then asked Border Patrol, by the way, why they didn't just shoot down the drone.

00:04:25.000 And they said they would need explicit permission from Alejandro Mayorkas, the head of the Department of Homeland Security.

00:04:32.000 Mayorkas, for his part, says we have no information on foreign involvement with these drones.

00:04:37.000 We have not seen any foreign, we know of no, foreign involvement with respect to the sightings in the Northeast.

00:04:45.000 And we are vigilant in investigating this matter, the Department of Homeland Security, with the Federal Bureau of Investigation in the lead.

00:04:53.000 According to CNN.com, concerns escalated after drones were spotted near Picatinny Arsenal, a U.S. military research facility, and also over President-elect Trump's golf course in Bedminster.

00:05:03.000 According to both military officials and state lawmakers, the sightings prompted the FAA to issue temporary flight restrictions over the properties.

00:05:10.000 Apparently, there were also reports of drones above the Naval Weapons Station Earl, a U.S. Navy base south of Middleton, although no direct threats were identified.

00:05:19.000 And it's coming from both sides of the aisle, by the way.

00:05:21.000 It's not just a Republican thing.

00:05:23.000 Democratic Senator Andy Kim of New Jersey posted videos to his X account showing what appeared to be a cluster of drones over the Round Valley Reservoir on Thursday night.

00:05:31.000 On Saturday, he posted on X that most of the aircraft he initially thought were drones were almost certainly planes.

00:05:35.000 So again, it is possible that people are over-citing, they're over-attributing things to drones that actually are planes, or they have camera error.

00:05:43.000 Any of that is possible.

00:05:44.000 However, I have very little trust in the federal government that they are doing the job that they were designated to do.

00:05:50.000 Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro said his administration is aware of reported drone sightings and is currently taking them seriously.

00:05:55.000 He, of course, is a Democrat.

00:05:56.000 He said Friday evening he directed the Pennsylvania State Police to further investigate the sightings and police will be flying helicopters to try to determine where these drones are originating from and what the purpose of the drones are.

00:06:07.000 The same thing is happening in Massachusetts, where Governor Maura Healey posted on X about the growing number of drone sightings in her state and said that state police were working alongside local and federal partners, urging drone operators to adhere to regulations.

00:06:20.000 Virginia Governor Glenn Youngkin also made a statement.

00:06:22.000 He said that the state police and the Department of Emergency Management were coordinating closely with numerous federal partners to respond to drone reports.

00:06:29.000 He emphasized a significant number of national security and critical infrastructure sites in Virginia.

00:06:35.000 Now again, FBI and DHS, they're saying this is mostly mistaken identity.

00:06:38.000 Some of these may be commercial drones.

00:06:41.000 We don't know, as of yet, from where they'd arrive.

00:06:44.000 There are a bunch of explanations that are more plausible than the idea that these are, for example, Iranian drones.

00:06:48.000 In fact, I think the possibility they're Chinese drones is much more likely, given the fact that we know that China has been attempting to surveil American military sites.

00:06:57.000 So, this does raise the question, why don't we just shoot them down?

00:07:02.000 Alejandro Mayorkas, whose job it is to clear this, he says, well, you know, it's the FAA. The FAA says we're not allowed to shoot them down.

00:07:06.000 Well, then just change the regulations and the procedures of the FAA. This one is not tough.

00:07:13.000 We are aware of the drone sightings, as I've said.

00:07:16.000 I think there are more than 8,000 drones flown every day in the United States.

00:07:21.000 With respect to the ability to incapacitate those drones, we are limited in our authorities.

00:07:27.000 We have certain agencies within the Department of Homeland Security that can do that and outside our department.

00:07:34.000 But we need those authorities expanded as well.

00:07:37.000 So here's the problem with Mayorkas. 1.00

00:07:39.000 I don't believe him at all.

00:07:40.000 I don't think that he requires additional authority. 1.00

00:07:42.000 I think that he's just a coward. 0.88

00:07:44.000 I mean, that was certainly true, again, on the southern border, where actual Mexican drug cartels were flying drones above my head. 0.98

00:07:50.000 Okay, we all saw them.

00:07:51.000 You can see them on tape.

00:07:53.000 This is not speculation.

00:07:54.000 It's just reality.

00:07:56.000 Meanwhile, one News Nation reporter named Rich McHugh, he says these drones are sophisticated.

00:08:00.000 They are moving in directions that are sort of different than normal drones would.

00:08:06.000 The experience I had last night, however, changed the way I feel about this story completely.

00:08:11.000 What I saw was more sophisticated than I ever imagined.

00:08:15.000 Take a look.

00:08:17.000 One, two, three, four, at least five lights, six lights?

00:08:21.000 I didn't believe what I was seeing, but what was I seeing?

00:08:25.000 We're here in central Jersey.

00:08:27.000 We've been looking for the past hour.

00:08:29.000 I think we've seen about 40 or 50 of these drones.

00:08:31.000 In fact, there's one over my shoulder right there.

00:08:36.000 One after another, after another, these drones appeared in the night sky.

00:08:40.000 If you look real close, they look like fixed-wing aircraft.

00:08:43.000 About 8 to 10 feet wide, colorful, white blinking lights.

00:08:49.000 That is not a plane.

00:08:50.000 Definitely not an airplane, but what was it?

00:08:53.000 Again, not clear all these drones are of the same make.

00:08:57.000 Not clear exactly what they are.

00:08:58.000 At this point, New Jersey Congressman Chris Smith, he says that some of the elusive maneuverings suggest military sophistication.

00:09:06.000 The elusive maneuvering of these drones, I would suggest, suggests a major military power sophistication that begs the question whether they have been deployed to test our defense capabilities or worse, by violent dictatorships, perhaps maybe Russia or China or Iran or North Korea.

00:09:25.000 I mean, they have the capability and they certainly have the motive.

00:09:30.000 Now, again, that's a lot of speculation right there.

00:09:32.000 But the problem is, do you believe anything Joe Biden tells you about this?

00:09:36.000 Or any of his designated people, considering that he himself is now probably comatose.

00:09:44.000 New Jersey State Senator John Bramnick, he says something very similar, says the feds clearly don't want to talk about all of this.

00:09:51.000 Whatever these drones are doing, the government really doesn't want us to know.

00:09:56.000 What that must mean is they're more concerned with us getting knowledge and being afraid of that information than having no knowledge and having all these questions.

00:10:06.000 That's why I'm worried about it.

00:10:08.000 It must be something going on that they can't tell us because they are so fearful of what the public's going to do when they hear what the drones are doing.

00:10:17.000 I don't know what they are.

00:10:18.000 You don't know what they are.

00:10:19.000 Apparently, the government doesn't know what they are.

00:10:21.000 Certainly, I do not believe members of the Biden administration when they say that they are giving the American people all of the information.

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00:12:37.000 Okay, meanwhile, President Trump had himself a hell of a weekend.

00:12:40.000 He went to the Army-Navy game along with Vice President Vance as well as Daniel Penny.

00:12:45.000 Daniel Penny, of course, has been released now that he's been acquitted by a jury in New York.

00:12:50.000 Good for Trump and Vance for inviting Penny.

00:12:52.000 Penny is in fact an American hero because the difference between, say, Daniel Penny and, say, the shooter of the UnitedHealthcare CEO is that Daniel Penny is not in fact a murderer.

00:13:00.000 He was defending other people from incipient violence.

00:13:03.000 That is the definition of heroism.

00:13:05.000 He stepped in when no one else would.

00:13:07.000 So that was great.

00:13:08.000 And Trump and Vance hosted Daniel Penny.

00:13:10.000 No Democrats, by the way, showed up at the Army-Navy game.

00:13:12.000 No prominent Democrats, which is kind of amazing.

00:13:15.000 Normally, the President of the United States shows up, but as we all know, the President of the United States is no longer the President of the United States, even if he is.

00:13:23.000 J.D. Vance, the vice president, he tweeted, Daniel's a good guy.

00:13:26.000 New York's mob district attorney tried to ruin his life for having a backbone.

00:13:29.000 I'm grateful he accepted my invitation and hope he's able to have fun and appreciate how much his fellow citizens admire his courage.

00:13:35.000 Others who attended the game, Speaker of the House Mike Johnson.

00:13:40.000 Also, there are other members of the political class, including Representative Mike Walz, who is the National Security Advisor choice by President Trump.

00:13:48.000 As well as Pete Hegseth, the presumptive Secretary of Defense, President Trump's pick, and Tulsi Gabbard, the pick for Director of National Intelligence.

00:13:57.000 So they all showed up.

00:13:59.000 It was an amazingly patriotic event.

00:14:00.000 It always is.

00:14:01.000 The enthusiasm was high because, let's face it, the American people are in a pretty good mood about President Trump taking over.

00:14:07.000 It is not just Republicans acknowledging that simple fact, by the way.

00:14:10.000 Democratic National Committee official Lindy Lee says it's pretty obvious at this point that Trump actually has momentum for the first time maybe in his political career having been elected. 0.95

00:14:19.000 I think, unfortunately, a Democratic Party has a stench of loser written all over the party. 0.94

00:14:24.000 And I'm sorry. 0.98

00:14:25.000 And I'm speaking as a Democrat myself.

00:14:26.000 This brings me no joy to say it.

00:14:28.000 But I feel like the Democrats are going to be consigned to the wilderness for at least the next four to eight years.

00:14:33.000 I think we're about to embark on an entirely new era of prosperity.

00:14:37.000 I certainly hope so.

00:14:38.000 And yeah, you can just feel it.

00:14:40.000 Even in the last couple of weeks, Americans are celebrating the prosperity.

00:14:43.000 Trump's approval rating is incredibly high.

00:14:45.000 People are in support of his transition.

00:14:47.000 The momentum is just tremendous and I'm speaking as a Democrat and I'm feeling it as well.

00:14:52.000 She is right about all that, and you can see it and you can feel it.

00:14:55.000 Just adding to the momentum for President Trump is this hilarious story.

00:14:59.000 ABC News has now been forced to pay $15 million to a presidential foundation and museum, the Trump Presidential Museum, which probably will be somewhere in Florida, might be over at Mar-a-Lago.

00:15:12.000 Who knows?

00:15:14.000 President Trump's Presidential Foundation and Museum will be paid for in part by ABC News.

00:15:18.000 Why?

00:15:19.000 Well, because the settlement, which was filed publicly on Saturday, reveals the network will also pay $1 million in Trump's attorney's fees and will issue an apology.

00:15:26.000 That is because, back on March 10th, 2024, ABC News and George Stephanopoulos made statements regarding President Trump in an interview with Representative Nancy Mace.

00:15:37.000 So Trump filed the lawsuit in Florida federal court earlier this year, arguing with Stephanopoulos and ABC News defamed him when Stephanopoulos said 10 times during an interview with Mace that a jury found that Trump had raped E.G. and Carroll, which of course is not true.

00:15:50.000 In 2023, a jury found that Trump sexually abused Carroll, sufficient to hold him liable for battery, but it did not find that Carroll proved that he raped her at all.

00:16:01.000 A judge concluded in August 2023, when dismissing Trump's countersuit against Carroll, that the claim that the Trump rights Carroll was substantially true.

00:16:07.000 The judge wrote the Trump rights in the broader sense of the word, as people generally understand it, but not as it is narrowly defined by New York state law.

00:16:16.000 So, it simply was not true that the jury found that Trump had, quote-unquote, E. Jean Carroll.

00:16:21.000 Stephanopoulos went on the air and said it over and over and over and over.

00:16:24.000 And it cost ABC News $15 million.

00:16:26.000 Now, there's some people who are saying this is a nuisance settlement.

00:16:28.000 Okay, nuisance settlement is where people sue companies all the time.

00:16:32.000 Literally all companies.

00:16:33.000 We've been sued before.

00:16:34.000 Like, that sort of stuff happens all the time.

00:16:35.000 And very often, if the amount that you would pay to the attorneys is larger than the amount you would pay in the settlement, you just pay the settlement just to get rid of it, get it off the books.

00:16:44.000 That happens all the time in the business world.

00:16:46.000 We're a very litigious country.

00:16:48.000 And thanks to our ridiculous torrent system in which the loser doesn't have to pay, which is something that I would hope would change sometime in the near future, that if you sue somebody and you lose it, you should have to pay.

00:16:58.000 But that's not the way that it works.

00:17:00.000 That means that there are such things as nuisance settlements.

00:17:02.000 That is not this.

00:17:04.000 Defamation cases, particularly about President Trump, in order to prove defamation, you have to prove actual malice.

00:17:09.000 It is not enough to find that the person said something false about President Trump because President Trump's a public figure.

00:17:16.000 So you have to show actual malice in George Stephanopoulos saying it.

00:17:20.000 So ABC News, that's a very rich company.

00:17:24.000 They can afford to pay lawyers.

00:17:25.000 Why did they pay out $15 million to President Trump?

00:17:28.000 It's not to settle the nuisance of it.

00:17:30.000 They did it specifically because they were afraid that Trump would win and they would have to sign a gigantic defamation check to President Trump.

00:17:38.000 So instead, they're forestalling that with a $15 million payment, which is absolutely hilarious.

00:17:43.000 Some Democrats are fighting mad about all this.

00:17:45.000 One of them, Mark Elias, who of course is a lawyer for a wide variety of Democrats, He tweeted out, knee bent, ring kissed.

00:17:53.000 Another legacy news outlet chooses obedience.

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00:18:03.000 Democracy docket is his own little 501c3, I believe, that raises money so that he can fight lawfare against Republicans.

00:18:13.000 Of course, Mark Elias is really angry.

00:18:15.000 He has made his career Mark Elias going to court against a wide variety of Republicans.

00:18:20.000 He's an election attorney for the Democratic Party.

00:18:23.000 He, of course, was hired by the Kamala Harris 2024 presidential campaign in case there was any post-election litigation.

00:18:31.000 So he's mad, of course.

00:18:33.000 And he should be.

00:18:35.000 Some people are taking this as ABC News, trying to get it off the book, specifically because they don't want to be at odds with President Trump.

00:18:40.000 Maybe this is that.

00:18:41.000 We've seen a wide variety of corporate leaders who are pretty antipathetic to President Trump now descending on Mar-a-Lago in order to have conversations with President Trump.

00:18:51.000 That ranges from Mark Zuckerberg over at Facebook to Jeff Bezos over at Amazon and the Washington Post.

00:18:58.000 With that said, that is a recognition of the reality, which is that President Trump, in fact, does have the momentum.

00:19:04.000 President Trump's economic momentum is undeniable.

00:19:07.000 Some of the things he's considering doing, by the way, he's considering apparently privatizing the U.S. Postal Service, which, I mean, it's about damn time. 0.96

00:19:14.000 The U.S. Postal Service is one of the biggest losers in the American government in terms of just losing the American taxpayer cash. 0.98

00:19:20.000 For years and years and years, for decades, it was suggested that without the U.S. Postal Service, the mail would not be delivered.

00:19:25.000 And then FedEx came along.

00:19:27.000 And then a wide variety of other parcel services came along.

00:19:30.000 And it turns out that actually you can run a for-profit business that delivers the packages much faster and with better reliability than the U.S. Postal Service.

00:19:41.000 Told of the mail agency's annual financial losses, Trump said the government should not subsidize the organization.

00:19:48.000 So again, that would make a lot of sense.

00:19:51.000 The Postal Service just bleeds money every single year.

00:19:56.000 They lost $5.5 billion in 2014. They lost almost $10 billion in 2020. They lost almost $10 billion last year.

00:20:05.000 In fact, it was back in 2022 that Congress had to just sign a $56 billion check to shore up the U.S. Postal Service's finances.

00:20:12.000 So privatizing that, that would be a big win for the American people.

00:20:15.000 President Trump is going to pursue a wide variety of wins in his second term.

00:20:19.000 But Democrats are still struggling for a path of resistance.

00:20:22.000 One of those paths of resistance may be lawfare.

00:20:24.000 Keith Ellison, the Attorney General of the state of Minnesota, he says that he wants to file more lawsuits against President Trump.

00:20:31.000 Because after all, this is how they tried to stop President Trump the first time around.

00:20:36.000 When he was the president last time, we had to bring lawsuits against him over 100 times.

00:20:41.000 And we were able to successfully block him about 70% of the time.

00:20:47.000 But we do anticipate that he'll be more prepared this time, he'll be more aggressive, and he has a playbook.

00:20:55.000 Project 2025 is that playbook.

00:20:58.000 And then, you know, he's already introduced some executive orders last time, which we anticipate he'll try to introduce again.

00:21:06.000 So it's not like we have to guess about what he wants to do, although I'm sure that he has some new tricks up his sleeves as well.

00:21:14.000 Well, we'll see how the law fair goes, considering a lot of the appellate courts have a lot of Trump nominees on them.

00:21:20.000 Meanwhile, a bunch of congressional Democrats have said they are not going to attend the inauguration, as though President Trump cares at all. 0.98

00:21:26.000 House Democrats, who will skip the inauguration, include Bonnie Watson Coleman of New Jersey, Adam Smith of Washington, Deborah Ross of North Carolina, Donald Bayer, Now, This is a stupid path for Democrats, honestly.

00:21:49.000 One of the reasons is the American people would like to see Democrats work with President Trump where appropriate.

00:21:55.000 While Democrats are resisting President Trump, one of the things presumably they will be resisting is President Trump's attempt at tax cuts.

00:22:01.000 But let's talk about something that affects all of us responsible, hardworking Americans.

00:22:04.000 Taxes themselves.

00:22:05.000 The October 15th deadline has passed.

00:22:07.000 Are you prepared for what's coming next?

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00:24:11.000 It is a foolhardy plan to simply preemptively fight President Trump.

00:24:17.000 One of the people who knows this is apparently the only Democrat with a brain at this point, John Fetterman, the senator from Pennsylvania.

00:24:24.000 According to Axios, Fetterman is on an island as he reaches out to MAGA. Quote, As the vast majority of Democrats on Capitol Hill fume over many of Donald Trump's cabinet picks, and his for a second term, Fetterman is showing a rare willingness to engage with parts of MAGA world.

00:24:48.000 It's easy to think Fetterman could be a new version of Democrat-turned-independent Joe Manchin.

00:24:52.000 He's a reliable Democratic vote, but he's emerging as an independent voice within his party simply by emphasizing the need to talk more with the other side.

00:24:52.000 That would be wrong.

00:24:59.000 So, for example, he met with Pete Hegseth, where he's going to meet with Pete Hegseth this week, President Trump's pick for SecDef.

00:25:06.000 He also met, for example, with Elise Stefanik, President Trump's pick for UN ambassador, and he's already said that he's going to vote for her.

00:25:15.000 Fetterman is, this is smart.

00:25:17.000 Fetterman is, again, a very staunch Democrat.

00:25:20.000 He's going to vote with the Democrats 95% of the time.

00:25:23.000 But he also understands that if he's going to defy President Trump's agenda, then he better have a good reason to do so.

00:25:30.000 And right now, it just appears that Democrats are still fulminating over having lost the election.

00:25:34.000 They literally cannot understand how they lost to President Trump, again.

00:25:37.000 And I think that's because they fundamentally misunderstand the American people.

00:25:40.000 Nowhere have I seen this better exemplified than in Tim Walls.

00:25:43.000 So Tim Walls, you'll remember Tim Walls.

00:25:44.000 Remember he was the weirdo?

00:25:46.000 He was the inflatable at the tire store near the freeway who ran for vice president with Kamala Harris.

00:25:52.000 You remember him?

00:25:52.000 I know, he's so forgettable.

00:25:54.000 It really is kind of funny.

00:25:56.000 You struggle to come up with the name of the Democratic nominee, and it's been five weeks since the election?

00:26:02.000 Pretty incredible.

00:26:03.000 Well, Tim Walls was on Minnesota Public Radio, and he said he can't understand how they lost.

00:26:07.000 After all, he's poor.

00:26:09.000 What?

00:26:10.000 So your argument for being vice president of the United States was you're bad at finances and never earned money?

00:26:16.000 Why would that possibly be a good argument for why you should be the heir to the presidency?

00:26:20.000 That makes no sense at all.

00:26:23.000 You being unsuccessful over the course of your relatively long life because Tim Walls is currently 60 years old.

00:26:32.000 That is not a good...

00:26:33.000 That is a terrible argument for why I should be vice president.

00:26:36.000 But he seems to think that solidarity and poverty is somehow a winning ticket for the American people.

00:26:41.000 It never was.

00:26:42.000 The American people would actually like to, you know, succeed.

00:26:46.000 The American dream is not to be like Tim Walls.

00:26:48.000 It is to be like J.D. Vance.

00:26:50.000 Here is Tim Walls failing to understand the American people.

00:26:53.000 How in the world did we lose to a billionaire or a venture capitalist when we were making the case of a county attorney and a high school teacher?

00:27:04.000 And we were focusing on cost of groceries, cost of health care.

00:27:09.000 Those types of issues that should have really resonated, we need to figure out, and whoever does it at the party level as we build out, how do we reach those groups that we lost in?

00:27:19.000 And it was many of them.

00:27:20.000 How did we lose Hispanic groups? 1.00

00:27:23.000 Losing Puerto Ricans in Allentown after Donald Trump's at a rally where they talk about Puerto Rico being garbage. 0.93

00:27:30.000 And I think for whatever reason, there was a distrust that people really – that the Democratic Party stood with that group of working people. 0.95

00:27:43.000 So again, your argument is that they should have solidarity with you because you were poor.

00:27:50.000 Now remember, Tim Walls actually ran on this.

00:27:52.000 He ran on the idea that you should have solidarity with him because he had no real estate holdings and no stocks.

00:27:57.000 Which, by the way, is a terrible way to invest.

00:27:58.000 That's how you end up at 60 years old with no money.

00:28:01.000 And you want financial advice?

00:28:01.000 Truly.

00:28:03.000 Invest.

00:28:04.000 Take the money that you're making and put it in the stock market.

00:28:06.000 If you don't know anything about investment, put your money in an index fund.

00:28:09.000 Even if you do know something about investment, you should put your money in an index fund and just leave it there and don't touch it.

00:28:14.000 Don't sell when the market goes down.

00:28:17.000 Don't buy when the market goes up.

00:28:18.000 Just get in the market.

00:28:20.000 Do dollar cost averaging.

00:28:22.000 Just keep buying in the market.

00:28:24.000 Buy real estate when you have the opportunity to do so and just hold.

00:28:27.000 Buy and hold for long periods of time.

00:28:29.000 But again, this is the same guy who went out on the campaign trail and suggested that J.D. Vance was a sellout for having risen from relatively impoverished background with a horrifying family background.

00:28:40.000 To become a Yale Law graduate after having served in the military and then running for vice president after being a senator.

00:28:46.000 That's a crazy pitch.

00:28:48.000 But I think that a lot of Democrats fundamentally do not understand the American people.

00:28:51.000 And there is this disconnect.

00:28:53.000 And that disconnect is, I think, being radically exacerbated.

00:28:56.000 I do.

00:28:56.000 By the nature of social media.

00:28:58.000 Social media radically exacerbates the disconnect between the American people and the elites who write for the media and who are on social media.

00:29:06.000 Social media...

00:29:08.000 It encompasses a very narrow slice of the American people.

00:29:12.000 So just to take one example, there is a poll that is now out with regard to Luigi Mangione.

00:29:21.000 Okay, so this poll is from RMG Research.

00:29:26.000 Polled 1,000 people.

00:29:29.000 And what they found was that 53% of Americans thought that Luigi Mangione, who is the guy who shot the UnitedHealthcare CEO allegedly...

00:29:38.000 That he was a villain.

00:29:39.000 Only 10% thought he was a hero and 22% said neither.

00:29:43.000 Now online, those numbers are probably reversed.

00:29:45.000 Online, you would suggest 80-90% of people think that this person is some sort of hero.

00:29:51.000 Also, if you're online, you tend to believe that literally every American hates their healthcare.

00:29:56.000 Now, every American hates dealing with insurance companies, but that's true whether you're talking about a car insurance company.

00:30:01.000 It's true whether you're talking about a life insurance company, except for Policy Genius.

00:30:04.000 It's true for pretty much all insurance companies.

00:30:07.000 People don't like dealing with insurance.

00:30:08.000 Do you like?

00:30:09.000 I don't like.

00:30:09.000 No one likes dealing with insurance companies.

00:30:11.000 It's annoying and terrible.

00:30:12.000 However, polling tends to show that Americans don't despise their own health care.

00:30:17.000 In fact, they don't want to lose their doctor.

00:30:18.000 They don't want to lose their health care.

00:30:20.000 Here's Harry Enten from CNN explaining.

00:30:23.000 Sometimes we talk about approval of Congress versus approval of your own congressman.

00:30:27.000 People don't like Congress, but they like their own congressman.

00:30:29.000 Something similar is going on here when you talk about the nation's health care system or the health care in the nation versus your own health care.

00:30:35.000 Your own health care.

00:30:36.000 Look at this.

00:30:37.000 Excellent or good.

00:30:37.000 The quality of it.

00:30:39.000 71% say it's excellent or good.

00:30:41.000 How about the coverage of it?

00:30:43.000 65% say that their coverage is excellent or good.

00:30:46.000 How about satisfied with the cost?

00:30:47.000 A majority, 58%, say that they're satisfied with the cost.

00:30:51.000 So the bottom line is this.

00:30:52.000 You wonder why the health care system in this country stays the same.

00:30:55.000 It's because people don't like health care in sort of the abstract, but when it comes to their own health care, a lot of Americans actually are pretty gosh darn satisfied.

00:31:05.000 Again, that's what the poll statistics actually show.

00:31:08.000 Again, there's a second poll that was done from the Center for Strategic Politics at UHC. And what they found is that 61% of Americans had a negative view of Luigi Mangione, the alleged shooter.

00:31:19.000 Only 18% had a positive view.

00:31:21.000 As for Brian Thompson, the United Healthcare CEO, 35% had a negative view.

00:31:26.000 19% had a positive view.

00:31:28.000 The rest didn't know.

00:31:30.000 And that includes, by the way, a plurality of Americans who had a negative view of UnitedHealthcare.

00:31:36.000 Which all seems relatively normal.

00:31:38.000 But the reaction from the media is so utterly disconnected.

00:31:41.000 And from Democrats is so utterly disconnected.

00:31:42.000 Okay, let us make something clear.

00:31:44.000 What Luigi Mangione did is a terrorist attack.

00:31:48.000 It is a terrorist attack when you kill someone in order to quote-unquote raise the issue.

00:31:51.000 If you kill somebody in order to raise the issue, that is the nature of terrorism.

00:31:55.000 You're seeking to bring attention to the issue by doing murder.

00:31:58.000 And what the American body politics should do, and what everybody should basically do, is if a terrorist wants you to talk about the problems with the healthcare system, you shouldn't give them what they want, or you're incentivizing people to kill people.

00:32:09.000 Now, we should absolutely have long-form conversations about the healthcare system in the United States.

00:32:15.000 When I say long-form, I mean informed conversations, because let's be real about this.

00:32:19.000 People don't know bleep about the healthcare systems of the United States.

00:32:22.000 They really don't.

00:32:23.000 Just to take one example, Whoopi Goldberg was on The View on Friday, and Whoopi Goldberg started running her mouth about health insurance.

00:32:30.000 And my goodness, my goodness gracious, does she not understand what health insurance companies do?

00:32:36.000 There are things we can...

00:32:38.000 Fool with.

00:32:40.000 And things we can't.

00:32:41.000 Healthcare is one of those things that you shouldn't be able to fool with.

00:32:46.000 And insurance companies who you pay, I pay into my insurance, you pay into your insurance.

00:32:52.000 I don't understand.

00:32:53.000 If I don't go to the hospital for a whole year, where's my money?

00:32:57.000 Why don't you give me the money back?

00:32:59.000 Then you don't have to worry about it.

00:33:00.000 Because I feel like, you know, I said this, okay, okay.

00:33:06.000 How does she think insurance works?

00:33:08.000 Okay, the people who are having these conversations literally know nothing.

00:33:11.000 Mangione himself, in his manifesto, said he knew nothing about the systems.

00:33:15.000 He really, like, he said, he said, I don't know enough about this complex system. 0.53

00:33:19.000 I'm just going to kill somebody.

00:33:20.000 Okay, Whoopi Goldberg there is suggesting the way insurance, when you don't, if you pay into your car insurance company and you don't take any money out because you don't get into a car crash, do you get your money back?

00:33:29.000 Of course not.

00:33:30.000 That's not how insurance works.

00:33:33.000 But that is the level of the conversation that is being had.

00:33:35.000 So don't pretend that we're now having a deep and abiding conversation about health insurance in this country.

00:33:40.000 We absolutely are not.

00:33:42.000 The conversation has gotten significantly worse, not better.

00:33:46.000 And that is led by members of our cultural and political elite.

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00:34:33.000 So as I'm saying, the political and cultural elite, they're just too online.

00:34:37.000 They're too online.

00:34:37.000 Bernie Sanders is a perfect example of this.

00:34:39.000 So Bernie Sanders, over the weekend, he pulled a full Elizabeth Warren.

00:34:43.000 He suggested that while shooting someone in the back is irresponsible, but this does raise a longstanding concern he's had about the profit-driven healthcare system.

00:34:55.000 Look, Elizabeth Warren obviously understands killing and murder and shooting somebody in the back is totally unacceptable. 1.00

00:35:05.000 But what I think has happened in the last few months is that What you have seen rising up is people's anger at a health insurance industry which denies people the healthcare that they desperately need while they make billions and billions of dollars in profit.

00:35:27.000 Again, this idea that when you remove profit from a system, somehow the system gets more efficient with better products belies everything you know about everything in your life except for healthcare for some odd reason.

00:35:37.000 And it's not just Bernie Sanders who's doing this routine, by the way.

00:35:40.000 The shooter provides us a great leaping off point to talk about healthcare. 1.00

00:35:45.000 Chris Murphy, the idiot senator from Connecticut, he's doing the same routine. 1.00

00:35:49.000 I'm never going to condone violence. 1.00

00:35:51.000 I don't here.

00:35:53.000 I've spent my entire life fighting gun violence because I know that the devastation is enormous, that it leaves behind.

00:36:01.000 What I see happening in this country, though, It is a real visceral anger that the outrage at Brian Thompson's death or the outrage at the death of any powerful person isn't matched by the anger over the thousands of people who die often anonymous deaths every single day in this country at the hands of a healthcare industry that mostly doesn't give a shit about people and only cares about profits.

00:36:30.000 Ordinary people in this country are not indifferent to the loss of life. 0.94

00:36:36.000 But these companies are.

00:36:38.000 This sort of language is so disgusting. 1.00

00:36:40.000 This idea that everyone who works at health insurance industries, that all those people don't care about human beings at all.

00:36:46.000 That all they want is profits.

00:36:47.000 That is not how markets work.

00:36:50.000 That is not how markets work.

00:36:51.000 Forget about caring and not caring for just one second.

00:36:54.000 Recognize that the grocer who provides you food he doesn't hate you just because he's charging you for the food.

00:37:00.000 The grocer who charges you food is charging you for the food because that allows them to generate more groceries.

00:37:05.000 That is what that is about.

00:37:07.000 There are massive problems in our healthcare system.

00:37:09.000 Again, health insurance doesn't truly act as health insurance in the United States in any real way because they're not insuring against a possible risk for the future except sort of at the margins.

00:37:17.000 What they really are doing is providing quote-unquote healthcare coverage that is heavily regulated and also heavily subsidized by the federal government and the state governments, by the way.

00:37:25.000 But this kind of disgusting notion that is being dumped out there that the reason people die due to lack of healthcare is because those mean, cruel health insurance executives are trying their best to harm people First of all, even if you would assume that was true, assume that was true for just one second, don't you think there would be a competitor?

00:37:42.000 A healthcare competitor, say.

00:37:43.000 A health insurance competitor that might come along and say, hey, we care about people more.

00:37:46.000 Do your business here.

00:37:50.000 This kind of language is actually a danger. 1.00

00:37:53.000 It's a dangerous thing to do.

00:37:55.000 And again, it spans both sides of the aisle.

00:37:56.000 You see it happen all the time.

00:37:58.000 This sort of notion that if somebody disagrees with how I do my business, then it must be because they're evil and want to harm you.

00:38:04.000 I've mentioned the word emotivism before.

00:38:06.000 That is a phrase, a term used by Alistair McIntyre.

00:38:11.000 It's also used by Philip Reif, a bunch of different philosophers.

00:38:14.000 And the basic idea is attributing motive to someone rather than dealing with the actual arguments.

00:38:19.000 And it's really ugly.

00:38:21.000 And it does lead to some pretty...

00:38:26.000 Terrible consequences.

00:38:27.000 So there was a concert in Boston over the weekend at which Luigi Mangione's face was shown and the attendees began to cheer.

00:38:34.000 And people are dancing.

00:38:47.000 This is a person who murdered someone on the street in cold blood.

00:38:50.000 By the way, not because he had an unsuccessful back surgery or was covered by UnitedHealthcare.

00:38:54.000 He absolutely was not.

00:38:56.000 This is not good.

00:38:58.000 There is a disconnect.

00:39:00.000 The disconnect is not just with regard to healthcare, for example.

00:39:03.000 It's with regard to a wide variety of issues.

00:39:05.000 Whether it is the sort of glory of being poor that Tim Walz is talking about, whether it is the supposed hatred of our entire healthcare system, which again, people have their problems with the healthcare system.

00:39:14.000 That doesn't mean they want the National Health Service or think that United Healthcare CEO should be shot in the back on the streets of New York.

00:39:20.000 There's also a wild disconnect on issues of race, obviously, between the elites in our society and a huge percentage of the rest of the population.

00:39:28.000 And it's permeated those elite circles.

00:39:30.000 So one of the bizarre controversies of the last week is Caitlin Clark, who is the WNBA's only nameable star.

00:39:37.000 The vast majority of the general public has no idea of any players other than Caitlin Clark because, of course, she was this giant college star and then she went to the WNBA. So Caitlin Clark, she did an interview in which she talked about her white privilege at length and then Megyn Kelly called her on it and then she spoke some more about her white privilege.

00:39:58.000 Like I've said I feel like I've earned every single thing that's happened to me over the course of my career but also I grew up a fan of this league from a very young age like my favorite player was Maya Moore like I know what this league was about and like I said like it's only been around 25 plus years so I know there's been so many amazing black women that have been in this league and continuing to uplift them I think is very important and that's something I'm very aware of and like I said like I try to just be real and authentic and You know, share my truth.

00:40:25.000 And I think that's very easy for me.

00:40:27.000 Like, I'm very comfortable in my own skin.

00:40:29.000 And that's kind of been how it is my entire life.

00:40:32.000 Sharing her truth.

00:40:33.000 Sharing her truth.

00:40:34.000 While she's saying the things she knows she has to say, obviously.

00:40:36.000 It's not enough, though.

00:40:37.000 It's not enough.

00:40:38.000 She says she acknowledges her white privilege.

00:40:40.000 And she wishes to use her voice on behalf of all of the black NBA stars.

00:40:47.000 Well, is that going to help her one iota?

00:40:49.000 Absolutely not.

00:40:50.000 Here, for example, is WNBA team owner Sheila Johnson ripping Kaitlyn Clark as the co-owner of the Washington Mystics.

00:40:56.000 I know you didn't know that there was a team called the Washington Mystics because, hell, no one knows there's a team called the Washington Mystics.

00:41:03.000 Here she is ripping Kaitlyn Clark and the fan base for liking Kaitlyn Clark, saying it's only because Kaitlyn Clark is white. 1.00

00:41:11.000 Why couldn't they have put the whole WNBA on that cover? 1.00

00:41:15.000 And said the WNBA is the league of the year because of all the talent that we have.

00:41:26.000 Because when you just keep singling out one player, it creates hard feelings.

00:41:31.000 And so now you're starting to hear stories of racism within the WNBA. And I don't want to hear that.

00:41:37.000 We have got to operate and become stronger as a league And respect everybody that's playing and their talents.

00:41:48.000 Hey, you're not putting the entire WNBA on the cover because not everybody can fit and nobody knows who any of those people are.

00:41:52.000 By the way, 31% apparently of the entire Washington Mystics ticket sales this year came in two games.

00:41:59.000 I will give you a guess as to which player was featured in those two games.

00:42:03.000 It was Caitlyn Clark.

00:42:04.000 Caitlyn Clark is single-handedly responsible for one-third of all your ticket sales this year, and you're b***ing about it.

00:42:09.000 You're complaining about it.

00:42:11.000 That disconnect, this is why people are annoyed.

00:42:14.000 This is why people are annoyed with the radical left, which they're just too online.

00:42:17.000 They're just too online.

00:42:18.000 Speaking, by the way, of too online, apparently Kamala Harris, she wants to make a comeback. 0.99

00:42:22.000 I'm not even kidding at this point.

00:42:24.000 Like...

00:42:25.000 I would love for some politicians who lose to just go away.

00:42:29.000 Like, truly.

00:42:31.000 Why can't, why did they just stick around now?

00:42:33.000 My whole childhood, if you lost, you went away.

00:42:35.000 Not anymore.

00:42:36.000 Now Vice President Harris, she apparently wants to run for governor of California, God love her, or run for president again because she did such an amazing job this time. 1.00

00:42:44.000 What she's been saying to people over the last couple weeks, donors, other supporters that she's been talking with, is, you haven't seen the last of me, I'm not going quietly into the night.

00:42:53.000 Advisors, people close to her, are debating about what that means.

00:42:56.000 They do not want her final official act ever to be essentially certifying Donald Trump's win over her, especially four years after January 6th.

00:43:06.000 And so they look at this governor's race in California in 2026, and it seems to them like a layup, essentially, that she would probably clear the field or mostly clear the field, and she would get to be governor of California.

00:43:20.000 Okay, then.

00:43:21.000 Good luck to her. 1.00

00:43:22.000 God bless the Democratic Party, and may they continue...

00:43:25.000 Ever in this direction.

00:43:27.000 Because frankly, if they wish to disdain reality, the elections will not go their way for a long time to come.

00:43:34.000 So God bless them and may they continue to prosper in their insane dereliction of duty with regard to having any relationship at all with reality.

00:43:45.000 Meanwhile, with President Trump coming into office, Russia is attempting to up the ante.

00:43:49.000 They believe that if they continue to press, then presumably NATO will collapse before them.

00:43:54.000 I don't think that's what's going to happen here.

00:43:55.000 I think that what's pretty clearly going to happen...

00:43:58.000 Because that President Trump is going to call on the Europeans to do their part, and the Europeans will do their part, or they'll get eaten.

00:44:04.000 And they don't wish to be eaten, and so it will be up to them to up the ante.

00:44:07.000 I think that President Trump is not in the business of abandoning American allies to the predations of our enemies.

00:44:12.000 He just wants our allies to do exactly what they're supposed to do, namely defend themselves and spend the money and materiel to defend their friends.

00:44:20.000 Which makes a lot of sense, since Europe is actually quite large, and Europe has a lot of money, actually.

00:44:25.000 While the Russians, in anticipation of Trump entering, I think they're miscalculating, they're getting more aggressive, according to the Wall Street Journal.

00:44:31.000 The Mercury Missile Corvette, one of Russia's most advanced naval assets, was escorting an oil tanker in the Baltic Sea when a German warship approached.

00:44:38.000 The German frigate F-223 had followed the two Russian ships up to a spot near the Danish island of Bornholm before it dispatched its Sea Links helicopter armed with a powerful surveillance equipment to have a closer look after a series of incidents in the area had put security forces on edge.

00:44:52.000 The Russian Corvette responded by shooting flares at the aircraft, forcing the pilot to turn back.

00:44:56.000 This incident on November 26th, the details of which had not been previously reported, was part of an increasingly heated standoff between Russia and NATO in Europe, with the Baltic region emerging as a key flashpoint in a confrontation unseen since the height of the Cold War.

00:45:08.000 Beyond military signaling, Russia has escalated an often violent campaign of sabotage and subterfuge.

00:45:15.000 Apparently, Russian warships have been firing warning shots at NATO vessels.

00:45:18.000 Powerful Russian jamming systems have disrupted air traffic.

00:45:21.000 Russian jet fighters have conducted dangerous maneuvers, including dumping fuel on Allied spy planes in the skies over the Baltics, according to multiple Western officials.

00:45:28.000 Critical infrastructure, like data cables and pipelines, have been attacked by commercial ships Western security officials say were used by Russian intelligence.

00:45:35.000 Clandestine Russian operators used Lithuania, a Baltic nation, as a springboard for a terror operation involving shipping incendiary devices on commercial aircraft using services like DHL, according to Western intelligence and law enforcement officials.

00:45:47.000 In Britain, a man admitted to carrying out an arson attack on a Ukrainian-owned property in London on behalf of Russia.

00:45:53.000 In Poland, a shopping mall was torched with authorities suspecting Russia to be behind the incident.

00:45:57.000 Jan Stoltenberg, former two-time NATO Secretary General, said during his tenure, which ended in October, Russia expanded the range of its targets, including destructive sabotage, cyberattacks, and interfering in elections in EU nations that belong to the Security Alliance.

00:46:11.000 Russia's onslaught in Ukraine prompted Sweden and Finland to join NATO. Now eight of the nine nations that enclose the Baltic Sea are members of the alliance, prompting jubilant commentary from Allied leaders to become a NATO lake.

00:46:20.000 But...

00:46:20.000 Russia has significantly boosted its military presence in the region, escalating its aggressive posture toward the neighbors in a way unseen since the Cold War, according to Boris Pistorius, the German defense minister.

00:46:31.000 So, again, what is the solution to this?

00:46:33.000 Well, one of the solutions here would be for all of these nations in Europe to up their game.

00:46:38.000 President Trump is going to up the American game.

00:46:40.000 We're going to spend more on our military.

00:46:41.000 We are going to put in place a secretary of defense and a procurement procedure that allows us to modernize and everybody else should as well.

00:46:50.000 With that said, Russia keeps saying they want to deal.

00:46:54.000 The Ukrainian ambassador, Oksana Markarova, she says that Russia is lying when they say they want to deal.

00:47:00.000 Well, we will find out soon enough.

00:47:02.000 Do you see a chance for a Christmas ceasefire and prisoner exchange?

00:47:07.000 This is a very difficult winter, after Russia destroyed a lot of our energy infrastructure, and after, you know, we are going through these difficult fights, both on the front line, but also civilians suffering from the deadly missile attacks.

00:47:23.000 Just this past week?

00:47:25.000 Yes.

00:47:25.000 At the same time, you know, every time Russia is talking about some ceasefire, they are lying.

00:47:32.000 Russians are lying. 1.00

00:47:34.000 Now, she's not wrong that the Russian negotiation strategy has been dishonesty for many, many decades. 0.55

00:47:41.000 However, we're about to find out when the rubber hits the road and President Trump takes office, how fast a deal can be reached.

00:47:46.000 And again, President Trump is not in the habit of making bad deals.

00:47:49.000 This is the thing about President Trump.

00:47:51.000 He's a dealmaker.

00:47:51.000 He does not like being on the short end of the deal.

00:47:54.000 And that's going to be true for Russia as well.

00:47:56.000 All right, coming up, we'll get into Chris Rock on SNL. He said something quite awful about the shooting of the UnitedHealthcare CEO. If you're not a member, become a member.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - December 16, 2024

What The HELL Are All These Drones?!

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