The Ben Shapiro Show - August 19, 2022


What Won’t The Left Do To Stop Trump? | Ep. 1559


Episode Stats

Length

48 minutes

Words per Minute

211.33992

Word Count

10,331

Sentence Count

669

Misogynist Sentences

2

Hate Speech Sentences

10


Summary

On this episode of The Ben Shapiro Show, Ben talks about the theory that the 2020 election was rigged by the left, and why the idea that Donald Trump actually won the election is a big no-brainer. He explains why the left has the motive, the means, and the opportunity to steal an election, and how they can do so. Plus, he explains why people don t accept the results of elections anymore. And why they don't accept the result of an election if the other guy won. Plus, Ben explains why we should all be worried about inflation and the impact it's having on our day-to-day lives and how to deal with it. Thanks to PureTalk, PureTalk is offering their best discount ever to my listeners. They're offering one month for free when you make the switch from one of PureTalk's most reliable 5G network services (PureTalk) to Puretalk. That's $1.99 a month for one month, plus you get 1GB of data for free! Get 1 GB of data and access to all PureTalk features including the latest features and features for as little as $99 a year! Subscribe to the show to get 1 GB free of charge! Subscribe today using the promo code SHIPPERSHIP and get 1 month of Pure Talk for 1 month for only $99.99. Get PureTalk for 1 MONTH of Talk, Talk, Text, and Text, for just $99! Ben Shapiro: The Big Lie, Ben Shapiro Ben's show is sponsored by ExpressVPN, the premium 5Gadgets, the fastest-grade VPN service on the highest rated VPN service in the world. Ben explains how you can get 5GB of 5Gigabytes of data, anywhere in the US, anywhere you get the best deal on the fastest fastest and the most affordable 5G connection in the fastestest possible speed and the fastest way to get the most of it all of the best experience on the best 5G and most affordable option in the cheapest possible, the most personalized experience possible, and most secureest experience in the whole place on the planet. . Get 5G Talk, you get 5G + FREE 7GB, fastest 5G, fastest, fastestest 5GPRICING, fastest and the biggest 5GPG, the best way to connect to the fastest & the most reliable, most personalized 5G & fastestest FREE


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00:01:29.000 Well, it's been labeled the big lie, the idea that Donald Trump actually won the 2020 election thanks to voter fraud and the attempts by the left to create an almost global conspiracy to deny him the presidency.
00:01:43.000 The folks who suggest that Donald Trump won the 2020 election, one of the reasons they suggest that is because they say, well, the left had the motive, the means and the opportunity.
00:01:50.000 That is the argument that I have heard and it is the strongest argument that they make because the truth is that there's no way to prove that Donald Trump actually won the 2020 election based on the vote count.
00:01:59.000 There's no way to actually show that fraudulent voters were present in the sort of numbers that would have overturned the results in many of these states.
00:02:05.000 The best that you can say in favor of the idea that the 2020 election was rigged is that it was sort of informally and and generically rigged in the sense that the media denied people the access to the information that would have needed to change their votes in the sense that the rules were actively changed in some cases like in Pennsylvania against the constitution of the state of Pennsylvania in order to make it easier for people to vote absentee. It's possible to say that ballot harvesting creates the the massive possibility of border front right all of those things can be true.
00:02:31.000 The actual notion that Donald Trump won based on he definitely had enough falsified ballots that he could have proved or the ballots we can show were shipped in in the middle of the night and people were in the back room punching holes in the chats.
00:02:44.000 That sort of proof wasn't present.
00:02:45.000 But the argument that is the most, I think, strong and convincing from the right, from those who argue this point of view, If you're trying to steal man, the argument is that the left has the motive means and the opportunity to steal elections.
00:02:57.000 And so why wouldn't they?
00:02:59.000 And the idea here is that they had the means, right?
00:03:01.000 The means would be, you know, the broadening of the voting procedures and the ballot harvesting.
00:03:05.000 They had the opportunity because people were voting for months in advance and they had the motive and the motive is really, I think the thing that people are latching onto.
00:03:13.000 The motive is really what is driving polarization in our politics because it used to be when people say, you know, why don't people accept the results of elections anymore?
00:03:20.000 And this is bipartisan.
00:03:21.000 Why don't people accept the results of elections anymore?
00:03:23.000 The answer is because it used to be in this country that you would suggest, yeah, no matter how much I hate the other guy, I don't have the motive to steal an election.
00:03:31.000 To steal an election means that I truly believe that the country is at an end if we don't steal this election.
00:03:37.000 If I don't subvert the democracy, then the democracy is gone.
00:03:40.000 The argument in favor of subverting a democratic election is, if I don't do this, catastrophe occurs.
00:03:46.000 And you can see times in human history where that argument could be made.
00:03:49.000 The communists are about to take over in a particular place, and so the CIA has to get involved to prevent Stalin from taking over Italy.
00:03:56.000 That argument was made in the 1950s, for example.
00:03:59.000 I think that you could make the argument with regard to Hitler.
00:04:02.000 Hitler is about to take over in Germany.
00:04:04.000 You do everything you possibly can to stop Hitler from taking over in Germany.
00:04:07.000 If you have a time machine, right?
00:04:10.000 Any means at your disposal is useful and good because after all, he's Hitler.
00:04:15.000 But what has separated America historically from all of this is the idea that if the guy from the other party gets elected, it's bad.
00:04:22.000 It's unpleasant.
00:04:23.000 It's really bad for the direction of the country.
00:04:24.000 Politics has consequences.
00:04:26.000 But it is not so bad that you have the motive to steal the election.
00:04:30.000 You wouldn't have the motive to undermine an election itself, to destroy election integrity.
00:04:35.000 Increasingly, as we have seen in recent years, the feeling on both sides of the aisle, but particularly on the left side of the aisle, is that anything necessary in order to prevent Republicans from gaining power is justified.
00:04:47.000 Republicans are evil.
00:04:48.000 Republicans are terrorists.
00:04:49.000 Republicans are the worst people in the entire world.
00:04:51.000 Donald Trump is Orange Hitler and all the rest.
00:04:53.000 And if we have to subvert elections by suppressing information, then we will.
00:05:00.000 And so what that leads is people on the right say, okay, well, obviously you have the motive to do this.
00:05:04.000 So if I thought you had the means and the opportunity, I think you'd probably do it, right?
00:05:09.000 And so this comes to a head, thanks to some comments made by somebody I'm friendly with, Sam Harris.
00:05:14.000 So Sam Harris is a pretty interesting thinker.
00:05:16.000 He's one of the new atheist crew.
00:05:19.000 He's written all of these books about how atheism is morally superior and about how truth is the most important value.
00:05:25.000 And Sam and I have had a couple of podcasts together.
00:05:27.000 I had him on the Sunday special a few years back.
00:05:29.000 He had me on his show.
00:05:30.000 We debated things like God and free will.
00:05:32.000 Really interesting sort of stuff.
00:05:34.000 Sam is very much of the left, and he's definitely a Democrat voting person.
00:05:41.000 And apparently he believes, and this is why this is so telltale, because Sam is not a wild leftist.
00:05:48.000 Sam is not somebody who is a radically left person.
00:05:50.000 Sam tends to be left of center on a lot of issues, but he's not somebody who I would characterize as like a woke radical leftist or something.
00:05:56.000 He actually is not.
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00:07:12.000 So he was on a podcast called Trigonometry and he made some comments that I think totally throw gasoline on the flaming raging fire of election denial and on the raging fire that's going on in terms of polarization in the country.
00:07:26.000 The belief that there are in fact people who are willing to create conspiracies in order to deny the proper results of an election.
00:07:32.000 Or even willing to subvert elections entirely.
00:07:34.000 Now, Sam tried to walk this back yesterday a little bit on Twitter.
00:07:37.000 I don't think he did a very good job of it.
00:07:38.000 But these comments went viral for a reason.
00:07:40.000 Because they support the idea that so many people have about people on the left.
00:07:45.000 And people on the left, if they had the chance, would steal an election from Donald Trump.
00:07:49.000 So here is Sam Harris a couple of days ago on Triggernometry.
00:07:52.000 Again, this went totally viral yesterday.
00:07:54.000 I mean, Hunter Biden, at that point, Hunter Biden literally could have had the corpses of children in his basement.
00:08:02.000 I would not have cared, right?
00:08:03.000 It's like, there's nothing.
00:08:05.000 First of all, it's Hunter Biden, right?
00:08:07.000 It's not, it's like, it's not Joe Biden, but even if Joe, like even whatever scope of Joe Biden's corruption is, like if we could just go down that rabbit hole endlessly and understand that he's getting kickbacks from Hunter Biden's deals in Ukraine or wherever else, right?
00:08:23.000 Or China.
00:08:25.000 It is infinitesimal compared to the corruption we know Trump is involved in.
00:08:32.000 It's like a firefly to the sun, right?
00:08:35.000 I mean, it doesn't even stack up against Trump University, right?
00:08:41.000 Trump University as a story is worse than anything that could be in Hunter Biden's laptop, in my view, right?
00:08:48.000 Now that doesn't answer the people who say it's still completely unfair to not have looked at the laptop in a timely way and to have shut down the New York Post's Twitter account.
00:09:00.000 That's a left-wing conspiracy to deny the presidency to Donald Trump.
00:09:07.000 Absolutely it was.
00:09:08.000 Absolutely.
00:09:09.000 But I think it was warranted.
00:09:11.000 And again, it's a coin toss as to whether or not that particular piece... Sam, I'm sorry.
00:09:15.000 I'm really sorry.
00:09:16.000 I was the one that said we should move on, but you've just said something I really struggle with, which is...
00:09:22.000 The kids in the basement?
00:09:23.000 No, no.
00:09:24.000 The kids in the basement.
00:09:26.000 I'm interested in democracy.
00:09:27.000 You're saying you're content with a left-wing conspiracy to prevent somebody being democratically re-elected as president.
00:09:35.000 Well, no, I'm content.
00:09:36.000 But the thing is, it's just not left-wing, right?
00:09:39.000 So Liz Cheney is not left-wing, right?
00:09:41.000 Liz Cheney is doing everything in her power.
00:09:42.000 You're content with a conspiracy to prevent somebody being democratic?
00:09:46.000 No, but there's nothing... Conspiracy... It was a conspiracy out in the open, but it doesn't matter if it was... It doesn't matter what part's conspiracy, what part's out in the open.
00:09:55.000 I mean, I think it's like... If people get together and talk about what should we do about this phenomenon, you know, it's like... If there was an asteroid hurtling toward Earth, And we got in a room together with all of our friends and had a conversation about what we could do to deflect its course, right?
00:10:13.000 Is that a conspiracy?
00:10:16.000 I mean, that's an amazing statement there from Sam Harris.
00:10:18.000 So he openly says, okay, so there are people who are complaining that the Hunter Biden laptop story was suppressed by the media, right?
00:10:23.000 So he's not even talking right now about election fraud.
00:10:26.000 He's talking about what sort of information could and should be suppressed in order to effectuate an election win for Joe Biden.
00:10:32.000 And he even says, what if on that laptop had been the stuff that a lot of right-wingers suspect about Joe Biden, which is that he was getting direct kickbacks from Hunter Biden for corrupt activities in Ukraine and China.
00:10:42.000 Because that is the gravest accusation on the laptop.
00:10:44.000 Forget about Hunter Biden smoking crack off hooker's asses and all the rest.
00:10:48.000 The stuff that people really are concerned about with regard to Joe Biden is not the fact that Hunter Biden is a drug-addicted derelict and a horrible person.
00:10:55.000 The thing that people are really concerned about in terms of the presidency is, was Hunter Biden traveling overseas to China, receiving massive amounts of money from the Chinese government, and then kicking back 10% to the big guy?
00:11:05.000 The big guy being Joe, right?
00:11:06.000 That would actually be really troubling because that would be significantly worse than anything that was even proved About Donald Trump, right?
00:11:13.000 Like way worse.
00:11:14.000 That was the actual accusation about Trump.
00:11:16.000 The accusation about Trump was that Trump was in thrall to the Russians.
00:11:19.000 That Trump had basically made a trade with the Russians that they would subvert the election.
00:11:24.000 And in return, he would be really, really nice to them because if they did that, then they would also green light the Trump Hotel in Moscow.
00:11:31.000 Or that he had a deal with Deutsche Bank, some financial deal that would allow some sort of kickback where he was being enriched personally by the Russians in order to effectuate different American policy toward Russia.
00:11:41.000 That was the accusation about Trump.
00:11:42.000 It was never proved.
00:11:43.000 Nothing of that kind was ever really even alleged by the Mueller report.
00:11:47.000 All of it ended up being bullcrap.
00:11:49.000 But what he's saying, what Sam Harris is saying, is even if that stuff were true about Joe Biden and China, Or Joe Biden and Ukraine.
00:11:57.000 If it turned out that Joe Biden is everything we said Donald Trump was, but could never prove, that still would not justify allowing information to flow freely to the American people.
00:12:08.000 It would not allow people to see that information, because it's so important to stop Trump, right?
00:12:12.000 Trump is so bad, he's an asteroid hurtling toward Earth, that it doesn't matter what you have to do to stop that asteroid.
00:12:17.000 It doesn't matter if you call it a conspiracy or not a conspiracy.
00:12:19.000 None of that matters.
00:12:21.000 The idea here is that you have to mold the minds of the American people to prevent Donald Trump from being president of the United States.
00:12:29.000 Now, Sam Harris tried to then walk this back a little bit on Twitter, and I want to be fair to Sam by reading what he actually said here.
00:12:35.000 He says, there's a podcast clip circulating that seems to be confusing many people about my views on Trump, which is understandable because I wasn't speaking very clearly.
00:12:42.000 So for what it's worth, here's what I was trying to say.
00:12:45.000 I was essentially arguing for a principle of self-defense, where there's a continuum of proportionate force that is appropriate and necessary to use.
00:12:51.000 I've always viewed Trump as a very dangerous person to elect as president of a fake university, let alone the United States.
00:12:55.000 And when he became a sitting president who would not commit to a peaceful transfer of power, I viewed him as more dangerous still.
00:13:00.000 However, I've never been under any illusion that he's Orange Hitler.
00:13:03.000 On the podcast, I was speaking narrowly about the wisdom and propriety of ignoring the Hunter Biden laptop story until after the election.
00:13:09.000 I've always thought that this was a very hard call, ethically and journalistically.
00:13:12.000 Now, right there, he gives away the game.
00:13:14.000 What makes that a hard call ethically and journalistically?
00:13:17.000 And why?
00:13:18.000 Again, he says in the clip, and what he's saying is it doesn't matter how corrupt Joe Biden is.
00:13:24.000 He could be any level of corrupt.
00:13:26.000 On Hunter Biden's laptop could have been proved direct that Xi Jinping sent hookers, blow, and $10 million directly to Joe, not Hunter.
00:13:34.000 And that would have been worthy of ignoring because that's how bad Donald Trump was and how scary Donald Trump was.
00:13:39.000 This is a hard call ethically and journalistically, but given what happened with the Anthony Weiner laptop in the previous election, I think it was probably the right call.
00:13:45.000 So again, that's an amazing statement because what happened, if you recall, in the last election cycle, is that there were serious questions about how Hillary Clinton had treated classified information as Secretary of State.
00:13:54.000 And she had stored a bunch of classified information on her laptop, and then when she was subpoenaed for all this information, she bleach-bit her servers and destroyed all the information.
00:14:04.000 And Anthony Weiner's laptop, in a separate investigation of Anthony Weiner, came up, and a bunch of Hillary's emails basically found their way onto Anthony Weiner's laptop, because after all, she was married to Huma Abedin, Huma Abedin was very close with Hillary Clinton, she was one of her top aides.
00:14:18.000 And so he's saying that because the Anthony Weiner laptop story ended up effectuating a move toward Donald Trump in the last days of the 2016 election, and so Donald Trump ended up winning, it would have been better that that story were suppressed.
00:14:34.000 This story should be suppressed.
00:14:35.000 That story should have been suppressed.
00:14:36.000 And note, he's saying that before Donald Trump had been president.
00:14:41.000 So the notion that between 2016 and 2020, Trump proved himself to be so dangerous, it was about elections and aisle, that he proved himself so dangerous in July, August, September, October of 2020, that you could not allow him to remain as president of the United States.
00:14:56.000 It's not about that.
00:14:57.000 I mean, Sam is openly saying now that he, if he had a choice, would go back and have suppressed the Anthony Weiner laptop information.
00:15:04.000 That's 2016, before Trump has done any of this kind of stuff.
00:15:08.000 He says, nothing I said on the podcast was meant to suggest that Democrats would have been right to commit election fraud or to take other illegal measures to deny Trump the presidency, nor do I think they did that.
00:15:17.000 But I don't know why the principle doesn't hold.
00:15:21.000 So according to Sam Harris, there's a continuum.
00:15:23.000 The continuum goes from suppressing open stories by the New York Post that affect the election to openly just shoving fake ballots into boxes.
00:15:33.000 He says, I'm not going to do the latter thing, but suppressing the former thing that I'm kind of okay with.
00:15:37.000 I'm kind of okay with denying Trump the presidency.
00:15:39.000 But here's the problem.
00:15:40.000 Once you're on that continuum, that's not just a slippery slope.
00:15:43.000 You're going to have to explain the principle.
00:15:45.000 Why is Donald Trump so dangerous that you can shut down the ability of people to distribute true information about Joe Biden in order to prevent Joe Biden from losing?
00:15:55.000 But he's not dangerous enough that you're actually willing to stuff ballot boxes.
00:15:58.000 Like, explain to me how that continuum works.
00:16:01.000 I mean, Sam says it's a continuum.
00:16:02.000 So how does that continuum work?
00:16:04.000 So a lot of conservatives suspect there is no continuum.
00:16:06.000 A lot of conservatives suspect that this is completely ad hoc.
00:16:10.000 That if, in the secret recesses of the Democratic halls of power, they had the ability to actually stuff ballot boxes, they would do it.
00:16:18.000 And that if you're openly saying, if the part you say out loud is, I'm willing to shut down the New York Post distribution of Hunter Biden stories, the stuff that you're really saying in the back of your mind is pretty much anything that we have to do to deny Donald Trump the presidency, we are willing to do.
00:16:30.000 So why should I believe you when you say that the election was carried out in fair and decent fashion?
00:16:36.000 That is the thinking of a lot of people on the right side of the aisle.
00:16:38.000 Now, again, that doesn't prove that the election was stolen.
00:16:41.000 It proves motive.
00:16:42.000 It doesn't prove means and opportunity.
00:16:43.000 And it certainly doesn't prove that it actually even happened.
00:16:45.000 Because, again, the states that we are talking about that actually certified their ballots were all run by Republicans, right?
00:16:51.000 You had a Republican legislature in Pennsylvania, you had a Republican legislature in Arizona, and a Republican secretary of state, and a Republican secretary of state in Georgia, and a Republican governor.
00:16:58.000 Also in Arizona, you had a Republican governor, right?
00:17:00.000 The notion that the mere presence of the motive proves that the thing happened is not true.
00:17:05.000 And many people have terrible, terrible motives with regard to other people.
00:17:09.000 It doesn't prove that they committed any crime against that person.
00:17:11.000 However, it's the motive that is really undergirding the complete separation in the United States, the complete polarization in the United States.
00:17:19.000 And that lack of trust is tearing us apart on an institutional level.
00:17:22.000 Tearing us apart because you believe the minute that guy gets access to the levers of power, you know what he thinks.
00:17:28.000 You know his motive.
00:17:29.000 So if he gains access to the sword, what you suspect is that he's going to use it.
00:17:34.000 And that's incredibly dangerous.
00:17:36.000 That's why people are so fired up, for example, about the FBI raid.
00:17:40.000 Because the idea here is we know that you guys hate Donald Trump.
00:17:42.000 We know you despise him.
00:17:43.000 We know that you spent four years going after him for a bunch of garbage with regard to Russia.
00:17:47.000 And now you have control of that sword again.
00:17:49.000 So why should we believe you that you are using that in fair fashion when you've made very clear that you don't wish to use that in fair fashion?
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00:19:19.000 All right, Sam Harris said the quiet part out loud, and even his attempts to walk it back are not really strong enough.
00:19:26.000 Because the moment that you say, information should be suppressed so my guy can win, the question becomes, okay, what else are you willing to do so that your guy can win?
00:19:34.000 And why do you draw this line, but not that line?
00:19:36.000 And also, why should we believe you?
00:19:38.000 I mean, you've now openly said that you're willing to be dishonest in order to ensure that your candidate wins.
00:19:43.000 So why should we believe that you're not being dishonest when you say stuff you won't do?
00:19:47.000 When you say, yeah, I'm willing to cheat with regard to this thing.
00:19:51.000 But over here, that's that's too much cheating for me.
00:19:52.000 Why should I believe you?
00:19:53.000 You've now said that you're willing to cheat.
00:19:54.000 So you're talking to me, right?
00:19:56.000 You're not talking in the in the recesses with your friends.
00:19:58.000 So why?
00:20:00.000 That motive question is so dangerous in America.
00:20:04.000 One thing that I really despise in American politics, and it happens again on both sides a lot, is what we call emotivism.
00:20:10.000 Emotivism is the idea that somebody makes an argument, and instead of you arguing with the argument, you argue with the motive of the argument.
00:20:15.000 You attribute a motive to the person, and then you argue with the motive.
00:20:18.000 You see this happen all the time in, for example, gender ideology.
00:20:21.000 You see it happen, Matt Walsh, When he did his fantastic documentary, What is a Woman?
00:20:26.000 He would go around and he would ask a bunch of gender theorists, what is a woman?
00:20:29.000 And their first question back to him would be, why are you asking?
00:20:33.000 Why are you asking?
00:20:34.000 They don't want to engage with the question or the argument.
00:20:36.000 And so they go immediately to, you're malicious.
00:20:39.000 You're bad.
00:20:40.000 Your motives are evil.
00:20:41.000 I don't like that kind of politics.
00:20:42.000 I think that kind of politics generally stinks.
00:20:44.000 I think politics should be about the argument itself.
00:20:47.000 When you make clear the motive, when you say the motive out loud, now it's about your motives.
00:20:51.000 I mean, it's not my fault.
00:20:52.000 You're the one who made it about your motives.
00:20:54.000 When Sam Harris says, yeah, my motive is I am willing to suppress information to prevent Donald Trump from winning.
00:20:59.000 And I think that's an easy moral call because Trump University is worse than if Joe Biden took cash from China.
00:21:04.000 Like, first of all, I don't, what?
00:21:07.000 Then at that point, it is your motive that's on the table.
00:21:09.000 And once the motives are on the table, very difficult to put that genie back in the bottle.
00:21:14.000 And so, yes, people are very fearful that the institutions of power in the United States have been infected with these motives, and that it has poisoned all those institutions.
00:21:22.000 Start with big tech.
00:21:24.000 So, there's a very good piece in the Wall Street Journal a couple days ago from our friend Vivek Ramaswamy and Jed Rubenfeldt.
00:21:30.000 of Yale talking about Alex Berenson. So Alex Berenson, he's now back on Twitter after being banned for nearly a year over COVID-19 misinformation. Last week, the former New York Times reporter settled his lawsuit against the social media company, which admitted error and then restored his account. The First Amendment doesn't apply to private companies like Twitter, Berenson wrote last week on Substack, but because the Biden administration brought pressure to bear on Twitter, he believes he has a case, his constitutional rights were violated. He is correct.
00:21:53.000 So what exactly happened here? Well, Berenson went through the discovery process ensuing Twitter.
00:22:00.000 And that discovery process confirmed that the White House has been secretly asking social media companies to shut down the contents of specific prominent critics of administration policy.
00:22:08.000 On July 16th, 2021, a reporter asked President Biden, quote, on COVID misinformation, what's your message to platforms like Facebook?
00:22:14.000 And Biden replied, quote, they are killing people.
00:22:17.000 Later that day, Twitter locked Berenson's account on August 28th and banned him permanently.
00:22:21.000 Last Friday, Berenson published conversations from an internal Twitter Slack channel, referring to an April 2021 meeting with White House officials.
00:22:28.000 One Twitter employee noted that the meeting overall was pretty good, but added the White House had one really tough question about why Alex Berenson hasn't been kicked off the platform.
00:22:36.000 Another employee asked, any high-level takeaways from the meeting?
00:22:39.000 Anything we should keep an eye out for?
00:22:40.000 The first employee responded, yes.
00:22:42.000 They really wanted to know about Alex Berenson.
00:22:44.000 The employee wrote that Andy Slavitt, then a senior White House COVID advisor, quote, suggested they had seen data that had showed that he was the epicenter of disinformation that radiated outwards to the persuadable public.
00:22:57.000 Barrington was not the only target.
00:22:58.000 At a July 15, 2021 meeting, White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki said, quote, We're flagging problematic posts for Facebook that spread disinformation.
00:23:06.000 There's about 12 people who are producing 65 percent of anti-vax misinformation on social media platforms.
00:23:11.000 This is a reference to the so-called disinformation dozen, 12 named individuals identified in a report by the U.K.-based Center for Countering Digital Hate, a report that Facebook disputed even as it said it had taken action against the targets.
00:23:22.000 Saki went on to say that 12 of them remained active on Facebook despite some being banned on other platforms, including ones that Facebook owns.
00:23:29.000 At the same briefing...
00:23:32.000 Surgeon General Vivek Murthy called on social media companies to purge more COVID posts.
00:23:35.000 He said we're asking them to consistently take action against misinformation super spreaders on their platform.
00:23:40.000 And a week later, Nick Clegg, a former UK Deputy Prime Minister, now Facebook parent, met as President for Global Affairs, emailed Murthy to thank him for meeting with Facebook and to report on the steps we took just this past week to further address the disinformation dozen.
00:23:52.000 We removed 17 additional pages, groups, and Instagram accounts tied to the disinformation dozen, resulting in every member having had at least one such entity removed.
00:24:00.000 So you now have the White House overtly coordinating with the biggest platforms to effectuate policy changes by silencing critics, by silencing voices.
00:24:10.000 And this didn't stop in 2020.
00:24:11.000 Well, there aren't a lot of people out there, not a lot of institutions that you can trust.
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00:25:22.000 Nick Clegg has now put out a statement this week talking about what Facebook is going to do for the 2022 U.S.
00:25:26.000 midterm elections.
00:25:29.000 And here's what he has to say.
00:25:31.000 He says, our approach to the 2022 midterm elections applies learnings from the 2020 election cycle and exceeds the measures we implemented during the last midterm election in 2018. This includes advanced security operations to fight foreign interference and domestic influence campaigns, our network of independent fact-checking partners.
00:25:46.000 Those independent fact-checking partners are universally left-wing, and when they fact-check, what they actually do is the implication checks.
00:25:53.000 So if you say something that is true, Snopes will say, mostly false.
00:25:57.000 He'll say, yeah, what you said is true, sure, but the implication is mostly false.
00:26:01.000 Our industry-leading transparency measures around political advertising and pages, as well as new measures to help keep poll workers safe.
00:26:08.000 As we did in 2020, we have a dedicated team in place to combat election and voter interference, while also helping people get reliable information about when and how to vote.
00:26:17.000 Nick Clegg says our teams fight both foreign interference and domestic influence operation and have exposed and disrupted dozens of networks that have attempted to interfere with U.S.
00:26:24.000 elections.
00:26:25.000 And some of this is about preventing Russia from intervening.
00:26:29.000 But the second thing is about downgrading particular information.
00:26:32.000 Remember, it was Facebook that, and it was Nick Clegg, who originally said, yeah, you know what we're going to have to do here is we're going to have to suppress this New York Post story.
00:26:39.000 So all those institutions of power are perfectly willing to suppress information on behalf of a particular political cause or at the behest of the White House.
00:26:47.000 And this is why people are deeply suspicious of the FBI search on Donald Trump's home.
00:26:52.000 Because institutional trust is at all-time lows, as well it should be.
00:26:55.000 Once the motive has been said, it cannot be unsaid.
00:26:57.000 Once you say your motive out loud, the bell cannot be unrung.
00:27:01.000 And so, what we are learning right now is that, and then you have, you know, the FBI trotting out disgraced former agents like Peter Strzok saying, trust us.
00:27:10.000 We don't.
00:27:12.000 So Peter Strzok, who you'll recall, was caught in a text messaging scandal with one of his subordinates.
00:27:12.000 We don't.
00:27:18.000 He was screwing her, they were both married, and they were texting one another about how much they hated Donald Trump.
00:27:21.000 Throughout the investigation, he was leading into both Hillary Clinton and the 2016 emails, and he was also leading the investigation into Trump and the Trump-Russia collusion kind of stuff.
00:27:38.000 Now, Peter Strzok ended up being fired unceremoniously.
00:27:41.000 He's disgraced himself.
00:27:43.000 But now he's back to explain that, for example, the affidavit in the FBI raid on Trump's house should not be released.
00:27:49.000 Why?
00:27:51.000 Well, you know, he says, well, it reveals sources and methods.
00:27:54.000 Okay, invariably, the people who are calling for lack of transparency in these particular types of cases are the people you probably shouldn't trust.
00:28:00.000 Here's Peter Strzok.
00:28:02.000 Do you think any part of the affidavit should be revealed?
00:28:05.000 No, and I'd be surprised if it was.
00:28:09.000 You know, in any other case not involving a former president of the United States, I'd expect the judge to rule immediately at the conclusion of the presentations from both sides.
00:28:18.000 He may in this case, because of the significant nature of the case, want to go and draft an opinion and make sure all the T's are crossed and I's dotted, but ordinarily I would not expect to have it released and I would expect to have an order or decision out of the judge during this hearing.
00:28:35.000 And the people in the media are like, oh yeah, that's fine.
00:28:37.000 You know, lack of transparency.
00:28:39.000 Weird.
00:28:39.000 Fine with us.
00:28:40.000 Because you guys were all for massive transparency when it comes to, for example, police officers involved in controversial shootings.
00:28:46.000 Then you want the tape yesterday.
00:28:48.000 But when it comes to, for example, surveillance footage of the FBI going through Donald Trump's belongings, then you got Peter Strzok out there on CNN saying, yeah, no, no, no, we definitely can't.
00:28:56.000 And I mean, that tape should not be available to the general public.
00:28:58.000 I mean, it's only the most controversial single FBI action of the last, I don't know, 40 years or so.
00:29:06.000 You know, my main concern is one of physical security for the agents and other personnel involved in the search.
00:29:12.000 If these are images where people can be identified, where they can have a name identified along with their image, that obviously in the context of what we're looking at now with threats to the judge, with threats to FBI personnel and offices, that really heightens the risk to those agents and other personnel who took part in that search.
00:29:32.000 From an optics perspective, you know, Trump and his camp are talking a big game about releasing it, but I have some question about whether an average American viewer watching FBI agents walk out with box after box after box of highly classified information, whether that in fact is an image that is going to serve Trump very well.
00:29:52.000 Yeah, so again, it's not a big deal.
00:29:53.000 You shouldn't worry about it.
00:29:54.000 Just trust us.
00:29:55.000 Garrett Graff has a piece over at the New York Times today.
00:29:58.000 He's the author of a book called Watergate A New History.
00:30:00.000 He has an op-ed at the New York Times today talking about how basically the right should leave the FBI alone because the FBI is congenitally conservative.
00:30:07.000 He says, historically, the FBI has been arguably the most culturally conservative and traditionally white Christian institution in the entire U.S.
00:30:12.000 government.
00:30:13.000 It's an institution so culturally conservative, even by the standards of law enforcement, that Democratic presidents have never felt comfortable or politically emboldened enough to nominate a Democrat to head the Bureau.
00:30:22.000 Far from being a bastion of progressive thinking, every single director of the FBI has been a Republican-aligned official going all the way back to its creation.
00:30:22.000 That's right.
00:30:28.000 Such history suggests that the issue here is Mr. Trump and not institutional bias.
00:30:33.000 So the idea here is that, you know, all you guys are complaining about the FBI.
00:30:35.000 What are you complaining about?
00:30:37.000 I mean, what are you complaining about?
00:30:38.000 After all, they're your people.
00:30:40.000 Well, I mean, there's only one problem with that, and that is the institutional forces inside all of these institutions, including the FBI, if they are congenitally predisposed at the top levels against Donald Trump, and if that's being approved by the DOJ under Merrick Garland, I'm not sure what that says about the everyday agent sitting behind his desk.
00:31:00.000 I mean, this is the same sort of complaint that you hear.
00:31:02.000 So the right will say, we are very critical of the leadership of the U.S.
00:31:05.000 military.
00:31:06.000 A lot of the leaders of the U.S.
00:31:06.000 military have bought into sort of the woke, progressive, equity-based agenda with regard to the United States military.
00:31:11.000 They are woke-ifying the military, and it's really stupid, and it's undermining combat readiness.
00:31:16.000 And the left will go, well, yeah, but you guys love the military.
00:31:18.000 The military is filled with people who agree with you.
00:31:20.000 Well, yes, throughout the military, but at the very top levels, the way that you become at a top level general in the military is by being political.
00:31:27.000 The grunts on the ground know this.
00:31:29.000 Everybody, talk to anybody in any branch of the military, and what they will tell you is once you hit the upper levels of the political echelon of the military, you're a political general.
00:31:37.000 You got up there because you're very good at politicking.
00:31:39.000 The same thing happens to be true with the upper levels of the FBI.
00:31:43.000 So just because the average FBI agent may be politically conservative doesn't change whether the FBI has at its top levels a bunch of politicians who are maneuvering Because that's what happens in every bureaucracy.
00:31:56.000 And so, again, trust us tends to go by the wayside when you have undermined your own trust.
00:32:02.000 And I keep saying that it's true in every institution.
00:32:04.000 This is why it feels like the country is breaking, even though the United States is still the most powerful force on planet Earth by a wide margin.
00:32:11.000 China cannot challenge the United States.
00:32:13.000 The United States is a massively powerful economy.
00:32:15.000 The United States has the most powerful military in world history.
00:32:17.000 The United States is a powerhouse.
00:32:19.000 It is a global hegemon.
00:32:21.000 And yet we are talking about The kind of breakup of the United States in terms of social fabric and the reason is because all the institutions that used to unify us are now falling apart because you can't trust the guy in charge because his motives seem to be wrong.
00:32:34.000 And it's every part of the American government and the CDC is a perfect example of this.
00:32:38.000 So yesterday Rochelle Walensky announced that they are shaking up The CDC.
00:32:43.000 By shaking up, it doesn't mean that they've actually recognized their big mistakes.
00:32:47.000 The big mistakes here were politicizing all of the data that was coming out, lying about it to the American public, making statements that were way beyond their capacity to make, saying that you didn't need masks, and then you did need masks, and then you might need to mask up your two-year-old, and then you need seven different vaccinations, and that if you did get vaccinated, you wouldn't transmit, or if you did transmit, well, you still probably had to quarantine, and if you did quarantine, well, you didn't quarantine long enough, and you have to shut down your, like the CDC was issuing rulings about eviction moratoria.
00:33:13.000 The CDC had too much power.
00:33:14.000 If you actually wanted to shake up the CDC, what you would do is use a little bit of epistemic humility, right?
00:33:21.000 You'd actually look at their system and say, okay, what if we shrink what it is that we say that we can do?
00:33:27.000 And we're much more cautious in our application.
00:33:29.000 But that's not what the CDC is doing.
00:33:31.000 Their argument is they need more power.
00:33:33.000 Their big mistake is they weren't forceful enough during the last pandemic.
00:33:36.000 So when they say a shakeup, what they mean is give us more power, as always.
00:33:39.000 Here's Rochelle Walensky, the current head of the CDC.
00:33:42.000 We learned some hard lessons over the last three years.
00:33:44.000 And as part of that, it's my responsibility, it's the agency's responsibility to learn from those lessons and do better.
00:33:51.000 The new findings are likely to spark a major shake-up of the CDC's sprawling bureaucracy.
00:33:56.000 Among the plans?
00:33:58.000 Get information to the public more rapidly.
00:34:00.000 Create a new office to promote equity in health care.
00:34:04.000 And develop a more nimble workforce that can quickly respond to public health crises.
00:34:09.000 We need to have special forces, if you will, to deploy during pandemic times.
00:34:14.000 Do you think they're up to the task of now changing their whole culture and thinking of themselves more like special forces that can be deployed wherever they're needed?
00:34:22.000 I have no doubt that they're up to the task.
00:34:25.000 No doubt that they're up to the task.
00:34:27.000 By the way, notice some of the goals that they're saying.
00:34:29.000 Equity in health care.
00:34:30.000 Does that sound like something that has to do with the CDC?
00:34:32.000 Equity?
00:34:34.000 Equity, as we learned from Kamala Harris, is the basically stupid idea that everybody in the United States is equally likely to accomplish or be subjected to anything in a normal situation, and any imbalance in result is due to some sort of evil in the system.
00:34:48.000 Did that sound something like that the CDC should be promoting?
00:34:52.000 But apparently that is what they are promoting.
00:34:54.000 These are the changes they want.
00:34:55.000 The changes that they want are more power.
00:34:59.000 That's what they're looking for.
00:35:01.000 They want to establish an Office of Intergovernmental Affairs to smooth partnerships with other agencies and a higher level office on health equity.
00:35:10.000 She says that she wants to be able to move with more alacrity to get out actionable data.
00:35:15.000 And by actionable data, that presumably means telling people what to do.
00:35:19.000 Because again, the notion that the CDC was not active enough during this pandemic is pretty insane.
00:35:24.000 Like in the very early days, you might say that was true for like the first month.
00:35:28.000 But for the next two years, all the CDC was giving you bad blanket advice that was scientifically erroneous.
00:35:33.000 Lead by people like Anthony Fauci.
00:35:35.000 And by the way, I just love that the people, it's like the Federal Reserve.
00:35:38.000 The people who botch the response are the same people who are charged with fixing it.
00:35:41.000 So if the Federal Reserve, and it blows out inflation to 40-year highs, and it's like, well, maybe Jerome Powell will fix it.
00:35:46.000 I mean, isn't he the one who blew it in the first place?
00:35:47.000 So here you have Anthony Fauci being like, you know who can fix this?
00:35:49.000 I can.
00:35:50.000 And Rochelle Walensky can.
00:35:51.000 We're the people to fix it.
00:35:52.000 You're the problem.
00:35:55.000 I think they should be commended in the fact, particularly Dr. Walensky, realizing and recognizing the shortcomings that have been there for quite a long time, long anti-dating Dr. Walensky's tenure.
00:36:11.000 And I think it was the stress and the challenge of a historic pandemic that brought some of those deficiencies into sharp relief.
00:36:20.000 So I believe we should commend them for realizing that, particularly Dr. Walensky.
00:36:26.000 I mean, we should commend them, guys.
00:36:28.000 I mean, don't you feel like commending the CDC for all the amazing work that it has done so far?
00:36:32.000 And don't you think that Anthony Fauci should be the one who's actually giving the commendation?
00:36:36.000 He should be the one pinning the medals.
00:36:38.000 That's how good he is at this.
00:36:40.000 Again, all the institutions in American life, I keep repeating it over, they seem to be falling apart because the people in charge of these institutions have motives that are at odds with the motivations of the American people.
00:36:50.000 That's not just true inside of actual governmental institutions.
00:36:52.000 It's true in terms of the institutions that we should have the most trust in in America.
00:36:55.000 Namely, like the scientific institutions.
00:36:58.000 The institution of science has brought about more progress and prosperity than any institution over the course of the last century.
00:37:05.000 And yet they are continuously undermining themselves with questions of motive and injecting politics and ideology into what should be a hypothesis result ordering.
00:37:17.000 Science used to be about, here's my hypothesis, and then we get the data, and then we see what the result is.
00:37:20.000 And now it's about, I'm not even allowed to posit a hypothesis that contradicts anything that the woke ideology says.
00:37:27.000 So you've got the CDC and Fauci saying, they're going to fix everything.
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00:38:38.000 Okay, folks.
00:38:39.000 Well, in case you missed it, last night, I did my book club.
00:38:41.000 Ben Shapiro's book club.
00:38:42.000 It's named after me.
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00:38:44.000 You can now watch it on DailyWirePlus.com.
00:38:46.000 This month, we discussed one of my favorite books, East of Eden, by the great John Steinbeck.
00:38:50.000 The book is just phenomenal.
00:38:51.000 It's an exploration of what America means and biblical stories of Cain and Abel and Adam and Eve.
00:38:57.000 Next month, we will be discussing All the King's Men by Robert Penn Warren.
00:38:59.000 Maybe the best political novel ever written.
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00:39:14.000 Again, all the institutions in our society are falling apart because they've been injected with ideology.
00:39:18.000 And when you inject institutions that are supposed to be nonpartisan with ideology, when you take principles like electoral integrity and you inject them with partisan ideology, what you end up doing is breaking them down.
00:39:28.000 And this is particularly true in the field of science.
00:39:30.000 Science was supposed to be the most impervious to this kind of stuff.
00:39:32.000 And instead, it seems that science is now the bleeding edge of institutional breakdown.
00:39:38.000 It doesn't help when you have articles like this one from Science Magazine.
00:39:40.000 You ready?
00:39:41.000 This is in Science Magazine.
00:39:43.000 It's in the name, science.
00:39:45.000 Quote, how astrophysics helped me embrace my non-binary gender identity in all its complexity.
00:39:55.000 Astrophysics helped you embrace your non-binary gender identity.
00:39:59.000 This is so science-y, man.
00:40:00.000 The science is just pouring out my ears.
00:40:01.000 I'm reading this right here.
00:40:03.000 Growing up, I asked a lot of questions.
00:40:05.000 Many of them foretold my future in astronomy.
00:40:07.000 Why is the sun yellow?
00:40:08.000 Why do constellations look like that?
00:40:10.000 Why does Jupiter have a spot?
00:40:11.000 My parents answered what they could and bought me books to answer the rest.
00:40:14.000 My most frequent question, starting when I was about five years old, was, why am I a girl?
00:40:20.000 And for that, my parents had no answer.
00:40:22.000 In fact, in the 1990s, in the foothills of the Appalachians, no one did.
00:40:25.000 It was my first encounter with a question that has no simple answer.
00:40:28.000 Actually, it turns out that, um, it has the simplest answer ever.
00:40:32.000 Ever.
00:40:32.000 So I don't know if her parents were just idiots or what.
00:40:35.000 But, like, if my daughter asked me why I'm a girl... Okay, let's go through this.
00:40:40.000 You have no Y chromosomes, you pee sitting down.
00:40:42.000 Like, why don't we start with those?
00:40:45.000 Like, this is not difficult at all.
00:40:49.000 And you were supposed to pretend it's difficult on the basis of... They can't cite biology.
00:40:52.000 And I love this.
00:40:53.000 It's a science magazine.
00:40:54.000 They're not like, well, how biology helped me embrace my non-binary gender identity.
00:40:57.000 They can't say that because biology would not help you embrace your non-binary gender identity.
00:41:01.000 So you have to go to astrophysics.
00:41:02.000 You have to go to astrophysics.
00:41:03.000 You have to learn about quantum mechanics in order to get to the idea that you are both, quote, I found the label non-binary through friends on Twitter.
00:41:13.000 With its fluidity and disavowal of the traditional two-gender system, non-binary felt right.
00:41:18.000 It felt like home.
00:41:18.000 That's what science is.
00:41:19.000 Science is a bunch of feelings, didn't you know?
00:41:22.000 That's how Einstein came out with his theories.
00:41:24.000 He didn't actually work through the data.
00:41:26.000 He didn't work the math.
00:41:29.000 He sat there, and then he felt things.
00:41:31.000 That's how we do science.
00:41:33.000 It felt like I had spent my whole life trying to solve a chaotic system only to realize there wasn't one answer but many.
00:41:37.000 It was then I realized I am a photon, possessing qualities inherent to either side of the binary, but ultimately belonging to neither.
00:41:45.000 Oh, you're a photon, are you?
00:41:47.000 Um, I noticed more like you're a biological mammal.
00:41:51.000 And that you're not a photon.
00:41:53.000 That's the thing I noticed.
00:41:55.000 Because science.
00:42:00.000 Trust the scientific institutions.
00:42:01.000 Except that the scientific institutions have been completely broken.
00:42:05.000 As Julia Mason and Lior Sapir write in a piece for the Wall Street Journal, the American Academy of Pediatrics is now pushing dubious transgender science.
00:42:14.000 Quote, a spate of headlines this month declared America's surge in transgender identification was not being caused by social contagion.
00:42:20.000 These articles were prompted by a new study by Jack Turbin and colleagues in Pediatrics, the flagship journal of the American Academy of Pediatrics.
00:42:27.000 Turbin, by the way, is a propagandist extraordinaire.
00:42:29.000 He's a radical trans propagandist.
00:42:31.000 Everything he puts out is basically garbage, like garbage data in, garbage data out.
00:42:34.000 He is horrible.
00:42:36.000 The study claimed that social influence isn't the reason that as many as 9% of America's youth now call themselves trans.
00:42:41.000 Thus, Dr. Truman argues, efforts in conservative states to regulate on-demand puberty blockers, cross-sex hormones, and surgery must be resisted.
00:42:48.000 Dr. Turbin's study is deeply flawed and likely couldn't have survived a reasonable peer-review process.
00:42:53.000 The swift response from the scientific community made both points clear.
00:42:56.000 Even those who support hormones in surgery for gender dysphoric youth noted that Dr. Turbin's shoddy science undermined their cause.
00:43:02.000 Nevertheless, the media have promoted his work as a refutation of the claim that the wildfire spread of trans identity is an example of social contagion.
00:43:09.000 The Turbin study rejects the social contagion theory on the grounds that more biological boys than girls identified as trans in 2017 and 2019, according to data collected from 19 states by the CDC.
00:43:19.000 But the researchers who helped design the CDC questionnaire explicitly warned that youths who identify as trans may list their sex as their gender identity, making it impossible to discern who is a male to female or female to male.
00:43:31.000 In this latest study, he cites three sources suggesting that respondents interpret sex as sex assigned at birth, even though none of the studies says anything of the sort.
00:43:39.000 But the AAP keeps giving Dr. Turbin a platform.
00:43:42.000 Over and over and over.
00:43:43.000 The American Academy of Pediatrics doesn't care about kids, they care about the ideology.
00:43:46.000 That's all they give a crap about.
00:43:48.000 Pediatrics published his highly flawed 2020 study alleging puberty blockers reduce suicide in teens.
00:43:53.000 The journal even chose that article as its best of 2020, despite receiving rebuttals that pointed out that the rate of attempted suicide was twice as high among the puberty block group.
00:44:02.000 And that Dr. Turbin had not controlled for the possibility that better mental health outcomes might be the result of factors other than hormonal intervention.
00:44:09.000 The AAP keeps ignoring the evidence that has led Sweden, Finland, and most recently the UK to place severe restrictions on medical transition for minors.
00:44:17.000 The AAP is a disaster area.
00:44:19.000 But trust the science, guys.
00:44:20.000 And not only should you trust the science, by the way, the DOJ will now try to prosecute you if you doubt the science.
00:44:26.000 So massive controversy has now broken out over people committing the grave sin of showing clips of members of the Boston Children's Hospital trans team talking about transing the children.
00:44:36.000 If you show the clips, this makes you a stochastic terrorist.
00:44:39.000 I can see why they're upset about people showing the clips.
00:44:41.000 The clips are super disturbing and make you look at the BCH and think, why are you committing active acts of child abuse and trauma against children?
00:44:49.000 And for example, here is a BCH doctor, Boston Children's Hospital, bragging about mastectomies, double mastectomies for 15 year old girls.
00:44:55.000 The eligibility for getting gender-affirming surgeries at Boston Children's Hospital is basically the same as it would be for most other hospitals or surgeons in the United States.
00:45:05.000 And that's the case because we all follow the World Professional Association for Transgender Health, or WPATH, standards of care.
00:45:12.000 For top surgery, you are Requested, but not required, to have been on gender-affirming hormones for at least a year.
00:45:21.000 If you're a trans woman, it's really encouraged that you be on estrogen for at least a year because you want to maximize your natural breast growth.
00:45:28.000 Many surgical centers require you to be 18.
00:45:31.000 At Boston Children's Hospital for top surgeries, we'll see people as young as age 15 if they've been affirmed in their gender for a long period of time and don't really have any other life complications that make surgery inappropriate.
00:45:46.000 And I love the happy-dappy music underneath.
00:45:48.000 WPATH, by the way, is a propaganda organization on behalf of mutilation of children.
00:45:53.000 That is what they are.
00:45:54.000 Meanwhile, the Boston Children's Hospital is promoting a program called HOTT, H-O-T-T, in which adults teach minors how to tuck their penis with medical tape so it looks like a vagina.
00:46:02.000 Really important stuff.
00:46:04.000 Safer tucking.
00:46:06.000 Health outreach to teens.
00:46:07.000 It's a welcoming, non-judgmental, confidential program designed specifically to meet the health and wellness needs of LGBTQ plus minus divided by sign young adults aged 13 to 24.
00:46:16.000 And one of those services is teaching them how to tuck And tape your genitals up underneath you if you are a boy to look more like a girl.
00:46:25.000 So, people have pointed this out.
00:46:27.000 And then it turns out people get agitated and they call up BCH and they're like, what the hell?
00:46:30.000 So, you now have the DOJ stepping in.
00:46:33.000 That's right.
00:46:34.000 Statement from the Department of Justice regarding alleged threats made to Boston Children's Hospital.
00:46:38.000 By the way, have they been doing anything about the mass fire bombings of pregnancy clinics?
00:46:45.000 Pro-life clinics?
00:46:45.000 Have they done anything?
00:46:46.000 Or churches?
00:46:47.000 No, not a thing.
00:46:48.000 But, today's news about the alleged threats directed at BCH transgender health program is disturbing to say the least.
00:46:53.000 Children deserve an opportunity to thrive and grow as their own authentic selves.
00:46:58.000 The most authentic kind of child is the one where you slice off their breasts at 15.
00:47:02.000 When I think authenticity, I think, take a boy, tape his penis up underneath his body and push his testicles up into his undercarriage.
00:47:09.000 That's the most authentic type of child there is.
00:47:12.000 Like, slow clap for these morons.
00:47:15.000 I want to make clear that the DOJ will ensure equal protection of transgender people under the law.
00:47:20.000 I've made, as Attorney General Merrick Garland recently said, at the Justice Department we view confronting hate crimes as both our legal and our moral obligation.
00:47:27.000 I have made confronting hate crimes a priority of my administration, establishing a unit dedicated to the investigation and prosecution of civil rights violations.
00:47:34.000 So the DOJ is now stepping in, just like they stepped in to fight parents who are defending their kids, high schoolers.
00:47:40.000 Now the DOJ is stepping in with all of its institutional integrity to push this sort of stuff.
00:47:47.000 Just amazing, amazing stuff from the people you ought to trust the most, right?
00:47:51.000 Science.
00:47:52.000 So many, so many institutions that we ought to trust.
00:47:55.000 Alrighty guys, the rest of the show is continuing now.
00:47:57.000 We have to get into Brian Stelter getting fired from CNN.
00:48:00.000 Does this mean that CNN is going to reorient Plus?
00:48:03.000 There's a viral clip from the Disney Plus show She-Hulk, which sounded terrible from the beginning.
00:48:08.000 The clip is even worse.
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