The Ben Shapiro Show - When The Media Don’t Care About Iranians | Ep. 930

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00:01:49.000 Alrighty, so over the weekend, more dividends from President Trump's deterrence strategy in Iran.

00:01:54.000 And this was a deterrence strategy.

00:01:56.000 There are reports out today that this has been in the works, the killing of Soleimani, for up to seven months.

00:02:00.000 That President Trump had given the standing green light to the United States military to kill Soleimani for months.

00:02:05.000 And months and months and months. 0.97

00:02:07.000 So the idea that Trump sort of just did this on a whim, and one day he woke up and he was like, kill Soleimani, do it, blow him into a thousand pieces.

00:02:13.000 That apparently is not how any of this went down.

00:02:16.000 So Trump kills Soleimani in the immediate aftermath of an Iranian-backed militia burning the United States embassy and engaging in months of terror attacks.

00:02:25.000 Soleimani is killed, and then the Iranians respond by firing off a couple of missiles from Iran into Iraq.

00:02:31.000 They hit a coalition air base.

00:02:33.000 It did, in fact, according to CNN, hit the sleeping quarters of troops, which suggests very, very strongly that Iran had called up Iraq and said, get your guys out of there, because what we don't want is to break another one of Trump's red lines, because if we violate another one of Trump's red lines, our rinky-dink navy could be at the bottom of the Strait of Hormuz by this time tomorrow.

00:02:50.000 But in the middle of that little exchange, It wasn't really an exchange because the United States didn't fire anything at Iran, but in the middle of that missile firing by Iran, a plane took off from Tehran.

00:03:03.000 Within two minutes, it was shot down by anti-aircraft missiles that were based in Iran, which is just a horrific screw-up by the Iranian government. 0.98

00:03:10.000 You'd expect no less from a terror regime.

00:03:13.000 And now, Iran has finally admitted that it shot down the jetliner by mistake, according to the Associated Press.

00:03:18.000 In the face of mounting evidence, Iran on Saturday acknowledged that it shot down the Ukrainian jetliner by accident, killing all 176 people aboard.

00:03:25.000 The admission by Iran's Revolutionary Guard undermined the credibility of information provided by senior officials, who for three days had adamantly dismissed allegations of a missile strike as Western propaganda.

00:03:34.000 And you did hear from the media when the Trump administration was saying things like, Well, yeah, no, it's pretty obvious the Iranians shut down the plane.

00:03:40.000 Well, can we really trust the Trump administration on this sort of stuff?

00:03:43.000 Who are you going to trust instead?

00:03:44.000 The Iranian administration?

00:03:46.000 The Iranian regime, which lies repeatedly about its own terrorism? 0.57

00:03:49.000 According to the AP, it also raised a host of new questions, such as why Iran did not shut down its international airport or airspace on Wednesday when it was bracing for the U.S.

00:03:57.000 to retaliate for a ballistic missile attack on two bases housing U.S.

00:04:00.000 troops in Iraq.

00:04:01.000 No one was hurt in that attack carried out in retaliation for the killing of Qasem Soleimani in an American airstrike in Baghdad.

00:04:06.000 Iran's acknowledgment alters the narrative around its confrontation with the U.S.

00:04:10.000 in a way that could anger the Iranian public.

00:04:12.000 Iran had promised harsh revenge after Soleimani's death, but instead of killing American soldiers, its forces downed a civilian plane in which most passengers were Iranian.

00:04:21.000 On Saturday night, hundreds gathered at universities in Tehran to protest the government's late acknowledgment of the plane being shot down.

00:04:26.000 They demanded officials involved in the missile attack be removed from their positions and tried.

00:04:30.000 Police did break up the demonstrations.

00:04:32.000 But this was the next step.

00:04:34.000 The Iranian people and their outrage, which has been roiling for a year now, actually four years, I mean going all the way back to like 2009. 1.00

00:04:40.000 There have been Iranians who want to overthrow the regime because the regime is a garbage, horrible, radical Islamist regime that backs terror around the region with dollars that could be used for the goods of its citizens, closes off its own economy so it can pursue this radical Islamic attempt to spread Sharia law across various boundaries. 0.97

00:04:59.000 All of that is opposed by a huge swath of Iranians. 0.99

00:05:02.000 There's no way to know what those numbers look like because polling is not really allowed inside Iran.

00:05:05.000 Suffice it to say the Iranian regime has been teetering on the brink for quite a long time and mass protests did emerge in the aftermath of the shooting down of the plane.

00:05:13.000 According to CNN, apologies from Iranian leaders over the downing of an airliner last week have done little to quell mass anti-government protests spreading across the country.

00:05:20.000 Thousands of demonstrators hit the streets this weekend Condemning Iranian authorities for shooting down a Ukrainian passenger plane and killing all 176 people on board.

00:05:28.000 The airliner disaster came hours after Iran fired missiles at Iraqi military bases housing US troops.

00:05:33.000 That was retaliation for a drone strike at Baghdad airport that killed Qasem Soleimani.

00:05:38.000 In Iran, demonstrators are calling for Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei to step down and for those responsible for downing the plane to be prosecuted.

00:05:45.000 Khamenei, have shame, leave the country, chanted protesters in the capital Tehran in footage posted on social media.

00:05:50.000 And it is indeed thousands of people in the streets.

00:05:53.000 By the way, when they show up in the streets for this, it ain't like when they show up for Soleimani, where the government is urging them to be out there.

00:05:58.000 In this particular case, they are risking death because we have seen 1,500 protesters killed in the last year alone, thanks to the Iranian government cracking down on roiling anti-regime protests.

00:06:10.000 Now, the media have covered this.

00:06:11.000 I would say that they've covered it far less and with far less vigor and enthusiasm than they covered the funeral for Soleimani, which they covered in just gawping terms.

00:06:20.000 You saw Chris Matthews say, it's just like Elvis Presley.

00:06:23.000 Have you seen the love?

00:06:23.000 It's unbelievable.

00:06:25.000 I do not suspect that you'll hear Chris Matthews tonight talking about the bravery of the Iranian protesters protesting this evil regime that would cut against the narrative that the Trump administration in killing Soleimani had also unleashed ground forces in Iran in terms of actual Iranian population.

00:06:40.000 I don't think that the media are going to play this up in quite the same way.

00:06:49.000 The reason I say that is because they have not played up in the last year any of the economic protests that have been rolling across the country and resulted in the death of 1,500 protesters.

00:06:57.000 1,500 protesters.

00:06:58.000 That's a lot of people killed by the Iranian military.

00:07:01.000 Protests have now spread to other cities, including Shiraz, Isfahan, Hamadan, and Urumayyad, according to Reuters.

00:07:08.000 People are tearing down posters of Soleimani.

00:07:10.000 They're ripping posters off the walls of Soleimani.

00:07:14.000 President Trump, for his part, tweeted his support for the demonstrators, saying his administration will continue to stand by you.

00:07:19.000 Likewise, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu voiced his support for the protesters and called on European powers to increase pressure on the Iranian regime.

00:07:27.000 President Trump tweeted out, To the leaders of Iran, DO NOT KILL YOUR PROTESTERS.

00:07:30.000 All capital letters.

00:07:31.000 Thousands have already been killed or imprisoned by you, and the world is watching.

00:07:34.000 More importantly, the USA is watching.

00:07:37.000 I do enjoy that President Trump is not somebody who's going to do the, the world matters more than the United States.

00:07:43.000 Bottom line is he understands that the United States is the global hegemon.

00:07:46.000 You piss off the U.S.

00:07:47.000 The U.S.

00:07:47.000 has been leading the way here.

00:07:48.000 He says, turn your internet back on and let reporters roam free.

00:07:51.000 Stop the killing of your great Iranian people. 1.00

00:07:53.000 This prompted, by the way, let reporters roam free.

00:07:55.000 It prompted people like Maggie Haberman at the New York Times, who generally is a fairly good reporter, but she actually tweeted out, why won't we let reporters roam free in the United States?

00:08:02.000 Something to that effect.

00:08:03.000 Not the same thing, Maggie.

00:08:05.000 Like you're tweeting that out.

00:08:06.000 On the internet, in a free country, where the New York Times is the largest circulation paper in the United States, other than the Wall Street Journal and USA Today.

00:08:13.000 So, um, I don't think that's quite the same.

00:08:15.000 President Trump also tweeted out, national security adviser suggested today that sanctions and protests have Iran, quote, choked off will force them to negotiate.

00:08:22.000 Actually, I couldn't care less if they negotiate will be totally up to them, but no nuclear weapons and don't kill your protesters, which seems like a fairly strong stance from the president of the United States.

00:08:31.000 Apparently, the UK Ambassador to Iran was also arrested.

00:08:34.000 They temporarily arrested British Ambassador Rob McHare.

00:08:37.000 He was summoned to the Iranian Foreign Ministry.

00:08:39.000 McHare was then arrested while in the middle of a crowd of protesters in front of Tehran's Amir Kabir University.

00:08:44.000 He was accused of instigating and directing radical and destructive demonstrations.

00:08:48.000 He was later released.

00:08:50.000 And he said he was not taking part in any of the demonstrations.

00:08:52.000 He just went to an event advertised as a vigil for victims of the tragedy.

00:08:57.000 The fact is that the Iranian regime has been cracking down on all of this because the Iranian regime recognizes that it simply is not popular with a huge percentage of its own population.

00:09:08.000 In fact, there was video emerging from the BBC.

00:09:10.000 This is pretty incredible video.

00:09:11.000 There's video that emerged from the BBC of Iranian citizens refusing to stomp on American and Israeli flags.

00:09:17.000 So for all the talk about death to America, death to Israel, I mean, I mean, there was actually, earlier this year, I think we reported on the show, there were Iranian protests where people were chanting, I believe it was death to Palestine, because they were so angry that the Iranian government was sending hundreds of millions of dollars in terror support to Palestinian terrorists as opposed to helping to rebuild the economy.

00:09:36.000 In other words, there's a huge number of secular Muslim, secularized Muslims, or moderate-leaning Muslims in Iran who are not happy with the regime turning the entire country of Iran, which has a long, by the way, long pre-Islamic history in Persia, Turning that country, which has a long storied history, into just a tool of Islamic theocracy. 0.59

00:09:55.000 They're not up for it.

00:09:56.000 Now, you would imagine this would be like a pretty good time for everybody to be on the same page, right?

00:09:59.000 I mean, this is a good thing that the Iranian population are calling out their own regime. 0.97

00:10:04.000 This is an excellent development that the Iranian regime has been exposed for what it is. 1.00

00:10:07.000 This is an excellent development that the Iranians backed down. 1.00

00:10:10.000 The Democrats cannot bring themselves to say this.

00:10:12.000 They cannot bring themselves to simply back the protesters.

00:10:14.000 It's unbelievable.

00:10:16.000 I mean, it would be unbelievable, except for the fact that Barack Obama couldn't bring himself to really back the protesters in 2009, leading to the Iranian regime cracking down on the protesters, even as Obama tried to negotiate some sort of nuclear deal with the people shooting the protesters.

00:10:28.000 Well, Nancy Pelosi, the Speaker of the House, she was on this week on Sunday on ABC.

00:10:32.000 And she was asked about the protests and instead of her just saying, you know, I'm fully with the protesters, they are standing up to a blatantly theocratic evil regime.

00:10:41.000 Instead of her saying that, instead she said, well, they could be out there for any number of reasons because she just can't credit Trump for anything.

00:10:48.000 She can't.

00:10:49.000 If anything, even remotely smacks of any sort of praise for President Trump, she must immediately shut it down.

00:10:55.000 So here's Nancy Pelosi undercutting the protest.

00:10:57.000 I mean, really, this is Nancy Pelosi undercutting Iranian protesters who are taking their lives in their hands to go out in the street and protest against a regime that just shot down a civilian airliner because it's violent and evil.

00:11:06.000 There were protesters in the streets before against the regime.

00:11:12.000 After the taking out of Soleimani, there were protesters in the street joined together, as you know, against us.

00:11:19.000 That wasn't good.

00:11:20.000 Taking down this plane is a terrible, terrible tragedy.

00:11:24.000 And they should be held accountable for letting commercial flights go at a time that was so dangerous.

00:11:31.000 But there are different reasons why people are in the street.

00:11:35.000 Oh, there are different reasons why people are in the street.

00:11:36.000 Thank you for analyzing all the reasons and never at any point suggesting that maybe the reason people are in the streets is because this is an evil regime that's been spreading terrorism for years.

00:11:44.000 See, the problem is, again, this is what I've been saying for the last several weeks, Democrats and members of the media, they are caught between a rock and a hard place.

00:11:50.000 The narrative of the Obama administration is that this regime had moderated in the aftermath of the Iran agreement, that this regime was now contained, that this regime was now being integrated into the family of nations.

00:12:00.000 So, if there are actual protesters being shot in the streets because they are protesting an evil dictatorial regime, Nancy Pelosi doesn't have a narrative anymore.

00:12:08.000 And if it turns out that those protests have been exacerbated by the fact that President Trump stood up to the Iranians and the Iranian people are beginning to see light at the end of this tunnel, She can't allow that either.

00:12:18.000 Because again, Barack Obama helped strengthen this regime.

00:12:22.000 End of story, period.

00:12:23.000 This is what he did.

00:12:24.000 He did not weaken the regime in any way.

00:12:26.000 He strengthened the regime in a number of ways, including trying to open its economy and allowing them to pursue regional terror and ballistic missile testing with American-allowed dollars into Iran.

00:12:35.000 So Nancy Pelosi, the hashtag on Twitter today was trending that Nancy Pelosi was basically standing up for the Iranians.

00:12:44.000 It was hashtag Nancy Pelosi fake news.

00:12:46.000 President Trump, for his part, was going on Twitter and retweeting everything that he possibly could.

00:12:51.000 He was retweeting Iranians who are complaining about all of this. 0.60

00:12:55.000 There's a journalist named Mohammad Mozaffari, who Trump retweeted, who said, the Iranian people are being killed in the streets by the Islamic Republic, but Nancy Pelosi and the USA supports those who kill the Iranian people.

00:13:03.000 Why?

00:13:03.000 And then he retweeted a man named Farhad Khalifi, who's apparently also a journalist, I guess in London.

00:13:09.000 He says, while the Iranian people are being killed by the mullahs in the protests, you're lying to the American people.

00:13:13.000 The real people of Iran don't want the Democrats back terrorists.

00:13:15.000 Shame on you for playing with the blood of Iranian people. 1.00

00:13:19.000 President Trump was retreating all of this and you know people in the media of course are very upset about the most egregious thing that he retweeted was a picture of Nancy Pelosi wearing effectively a burqa and Chuck Schumer wearing some form of Islamic headgear.

00:13:38.000 With the Iranian flag in the background.

00:13:40.000 So people are all over Trump for all of this, obviously, because this is what Trump does.

00:13:44.000 I mean, President Trump, this is where the commenter on websites of him comes out, right?

00:13:48.000 The caller into talk radio for President Trump comes out.

00:13:52.000 But the bottom line is that Trump's perspective on Iran is correct, and the Democrats' perspective on this is wrong.

00:13:57.000 And it's not just wrong, it's highly damaging to people who are protesting at the risk of their lives in all of this.

00:14:04.000 President Trump tweeted out, the Democrats in the fake news are trying to make terrorist Soleimani into a wonderful guy only because I did what should have been done for 20 years.

00:14:10.000 Anything I do, whether it's the economy, military or anything else, will be scorned by the radical left.

00:14:14.000 Do nothing, Democrats.

00:14:15.000 And he says, wow, the wonderful Iranian protesters refuse to step on or in any way denigrate our great American flag.

00:14:20.000 It was put on the street in order for them to trample it and they walked around it instead.

00:14:23.000 Big progress.

00:14:24.000 I don't understand why that's a bad thing.

00:14:27.000 And I don't understand why this is supposed to be supremely controversial that President Trump is standing up for the rights of Americans.

00:14:34.000 To be safe and standing up against Iranian terrorism. 0.94

00:14:37.000 And why the protesters are being denigrated by Nancy Pelosi.

00:14:40.000 Trump also tweeted out a few minutes ago, the fake news media and their Democrat partners are working hard to determine whether or not the future attack by terrorist Soleimani was imminent or not and was my team in agreement.

00:14:49.000 The answer to both is a strong yes.

00:14:51.000 But it doesn't really matter because of his horrible past.

00:14:52.000 That brings us to the next narrative that's being attempted by the Democrats because it turns out that their narrative that Soleimani's death was going to lead to World War III didn't materialize.

00:15:00.000 It turns out that the evidence is very solid that the Iranian regime is a terror regime that just shot down a civilian airliner and is now being riven by protests by its own citizens.

00:15:10.000 And so they have to turn to a second narrative.

00:15:11.000 We're going to get to the Democrats and the media's second narrative over the weekend, which is a truly egregious narrative.

00:15:16.000 We'll get to that in just one second.

00:15:18.000 First, One of the questions in the aftermath of the Iranian attack was whether the Iranians would engage in some sort of cyberterrorism, whether they were engaged in hacking.

00:15:26.000 And there are a lot of reports all around the media ecosystem that there were attempted hacks all throughout the days in the aftermath of the Soleimani attack.

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00:16:44.000 Okay, so one of the Democrat narratives over the weekend was the Nancy Pelosi narrative that apparently these protests have many reasons and Trump being doing the right thing apparently has nothing to do with it. 0.90

00:16:55.000 And then the second narrative is that Trump is, of course, a crazy person and that the only reason he attacked Soleimani is because he's precipitous.

00:17:01.000 Now, as I say, there was a report that came out over the weekend suggesting that for months in advance, Trump had greenlit the kill of Soleimani because Soleimani was, in fact, the world's leading sponsor of terrorism around the world.

00:17:11.000 But this narrative of the Democrats that Trump was doing this based on bad info, bad intel, this was exacerbated by President Trump because President Trump very often will get over his skis in the sorts of information that he chooses to divulge to the public.

00:17:25.000 Now, here's the truth.

00:17:26.000 What President Trump tweeted this morning, which is that whether the attack was imminent or not, Soleimani needed to go, that is 100% true.

00:17:32.000 And as I've been saying on this program for, again, weeks at this point, since the Democrats decided to make imminent the standard, The question as to whether there was any imminent attack by Osama Bin Laden or Anwar al-Awlaki is basically irrelevant.

00:17:44.000 If you're a terrorist for a living, what you do is pursue terror attacks. 0.89

00:17:47.000 And so this bizarre notion that you have to have the date, time, and place of a terror attack on a list in order to kill a terrorist is just silly towns.

00:17:54.000 But this is the attack that the Democrats are choosing to pursue, which is that Trump didn't actually have an excuse to kill Soleimani, despite the fact that Soleimani, again, was in Iraq, not Iran.

00:18:04.000 He was in Iraq the day after a burning of a U.S.

00:18:07.000 embassy in Baghdad.

00:18:08.000 He was in the same car as the leader of the PMF, which was an Iranian-backed Terrorist group that was responsible for the burn he was in that car with that guy by the way that terrorist happened to have a Death sentence in absentia placed on his head by the Kuwaiti government for his terror activities in the past But apparently according to the Democrats that's not strong enough So Laura Ingram asked Trump about it and Trump instead of just saying listen I'm not gonna divulge all the information that we have at our disposal because a lot of that is classified Suffices to say this man was a lifelong terrorist.

00:18:36.000 I'm confused as to why it is that the Democrats What exactly are they demanding?

00:18:41.000 Like, when his next terror attack was going to occur?

00:18:44.000 Because, again, we know that with Bin Laden, he was basically cut off from everybody on Earth. 0.56

00:18:48.000 He wasn't even in electronic communication with anybody.

00:18:50.000 They were hand-delivering handwritten notes to him because they were afraid that people would locate him.

00:18:54.000 Was he a grave threat?

00:18:56.000 Like, Obama killed him anyway, and he did the right thing.

00:18:59.000 Soleimani was a grave active threat. 0.81

00:19:01.000 That would be the right answer.

00:19:02.000 Instead, President Trump says that Soleimani was planning attacks on four embassies, and this of course leads to a bit of a disconnect between Trump and his own intelligence community and defense department.

00:19:12.000 I can reveal that I believe it would have been four embassies, and I think that probably Baghdad already started.

00:19:20.000 They were really amazed that we came in with that kind of a force.

00:19:23.000 We came in with very powerful force, and drove them out.

00:19:26.000 You know, that ended almost immediately.

00:19:29.000 But Baghdad certainly would have been the lead, but I think it would have been four embassies, could have been military bases, could have been a lot of other things too.

00:19:35.000 But it was imminent, and then all of a sudden, he was gone.

00:19:39.000 Okay, so Trump obviously is happy that Soleimani is gone, but the fact that he suggests that there were imminent attacks on four embassies, this does not meet with the intel that has been presented either to the American public or to Congress apparently.

00:19:52.000 So Secretary of Defense Mark Esper appeared on Face the Nation.

00:19:55.000 He was asked specifically about this notion that there were four pending embassy attacks.

00:19:59.000 Now, here's the very obvious possibility.

00:20:01.000 You know, we're not allowed to talk about obvious possibilities when it comes to Trump's interpretation.

00:20:05.000 We're supposed to instead take him supremely literally that there were imminent attacks on four U.S.

00:20:10.000 embassies.

00:20:11.000 In all likelihood, what happened is that the Department of Defense and the State Department went to Trump and they said, the Iranians are fond of attacking embassies.

00:20:16.000 They just attacked U.S. 0.80

00:20:17.000 embassy in Baghdad.

00:20:18.000 We need to up security, particularly at these four embassies.

00:20:21.000 And Trump took that as there were imminent attacks on those four embassies.

00:20:25.000 That's the likeliest explanation for the mix-up.

00:20:28.000 But the way the media play it is Trump is exaggerating it.

00:20:30.000 It's just like WMD in Iraq, guys. 0.89

00:20:33.000 Soleimani wasn't actually a threat.

00:20:35.000 Soleimani actually was out there petting kittens and adopting puppies.

00:20:38.000 That guy was all rainbows and flowers.

00:20:40.000 And then Trump made this up from his crazy head about Soleimani attacking embassies.

00:20:45.000 And now for no reason, a respected member of the Iranian military is dead.

00:20:51.000 So Mark Esper is like, yeah, I didn't see any evidence pending of the attacks, but I think it's likely that Iran probably planned to attack U.S. 0.65

00:20:59.000 embassies considering they've done this like a thousand times.

00:21:01.000 What the president said was he believed that it probably could have been attacks against additional embassies.

00:21:07.000 I shared that view.

00:21:08.000 I know other members of national security team share that view.

00:21:11.000 That's why I deployed thousands of American paratroopers to the Middle East to reinforce our embassy in Baghdad and other sites throughout the region.

00:21:17.000 Probably and could have been.

00:21:19.000 That is, that sounds more like an assessment than a specific, tangible threat with a decisive piece of intelligence.

00:21:27.000 Well, the president didn't say it was a tangible, he didn't cite a specific piece of evidence.

00:21:31.000 What he said is he probably, he believed- Are you saying there wasn't one?

00:21:34.000 I didn't see one with regard to four embassies.

00:21:37.000 What I'm saying is I share the president's view that probably my expectation was they were going to go after our embassies.

00:21:43.000 Okay, so he was saying, again, what I'm saying, which is that there's an expectation, like some broad-based expectation.

00:21:47.000 Trump didn't say that the attacks on the embassies were imminent, even in that quote with Laura Ingraham, but this led to the media suggesting that Trump was embellishing, don't you see?

00:21:56.000 So that means that I guess Soleimani...

00:21:58.000 Shouldn't have been killed, I guess.

00:22:00.000 Now, listen, I think that you can ask whether Trump embellishes things.

00:22:03.000 The man embellishes things.

00:22:04.000 End of story.

00:22:05.000 He does.

00:22:06.000 When it came to the evidence, for example, that al-Baghdadi was in a cave and he was crying and whimpering and all of this stuff, members of the Defense Department were like, yeah, we didn't see a lot of evidence for that.

00:22:15.000 But that's what Trump does.

00:22:17.000 OK, just take it.

00:22:18.000 Take everything he says with a grain of salt.

00:22:21.000 But instead, the media, in order to try and debunk the idea that Soleimani should have been killed, they're like, well, I guess it wasn't imminent because Trump says that it was the embassies, but we've seen no evidence of the embassies, and that means he shouldn't have been killed.

00:22:30.000 Okay, two things can be true at once.

00:22:32.000 One, maybe there were no imminent attacks on the embassies, or maybe there were imminent attacks on the embassies that we just don't know about.

00:22:37.000 We don't know the answer to that.

00:22:38.000 But Soleimani should have been killed anyway because, again, a terrorist does what he does, like, for a living. 0.98

00:22:44.000 He's a terrorist for a living and now for a dying. 0.94

00:22:46.000 Here was Jake Tapper, though, going after Esper, suggesting the president was embellishing. 0.95

00:22:50.000 Again, I think that's a relevant question to ask for Tapper.

00:22:53.000 I just don't know what the relevance is to whether Soleimani should have been killed.

00:22:56.000 When President Trump lies or embellishes on a topic this sensitive and administration officials then parrot his claims to avoid drawing his ire, the situation becomes extremely dangerous for our troops and the American people.

00:23:06.000 Is President Trump embellishing?

00:23:08.000 I don't believe so.

00:23:09.000 Look, the bottom line is we had exquisite intelligence that can only be shared with a gang of eight.

00:23:13.000 So I understand the frustration of many members of Congress, but was shared with that gang of eight.

00:23:18.000 I spoke to one of the briefers.

00:23:19.000 One of the briefers told me, He's not embellishing.

00:23:21.000 nearly all the members of that gang of eight believed that the intelligence was persuasive as well and that it should not be shared with a broader membership because of the concerns that it could be released reveal our sources and methods.

00:23:32.000 As per says, he's not embellishing.

00:23:34.000 It's just that I can't lock down which four embassies were going to happen or any of that.

00:23:38.000 But this contributes to a different narrative for the Democrats.

00:23:41.000 And that narrative, as we will see, is that Trump shouldn't have killed Soleimani because it was based on uncertain intelligence.

00:23:46.000 This is just like the Iraq War. 0.68

00:23:47.000 Yeah, except for the fact that it's not like the Iraq War because, again, if the case in the Iraq War had been Saddam Hussein, if this had been the only case, Saddam Hussein is a human rights violator who murders his own citizens on a regular basis and is aggressive on foreign borders.

00:24:03.000 Wouldn't take a lot of proof to prove that.

00:24:04.000 I mean, the man literally did that pretty much every day.

00:24:06.000 And the same thing is true of Soleimani.

00:24:08.000 There was nothing new that had to be proved with regard to who Soleimani was.

00:24:12.000 The man pursued terror every single day.

00:24:14.000 It was his job with the Iranian government.

00:24:16.000 But according to Democrats, this completely undercuts the case that President Trump has for killing Soleimani in the first place.

00:24:22.000 They will do anything they can to turn, again, a win into a loss on foreign policy.

00:24:26.000 We'll get to more of this in just one second.

00:24:29.000 President Trump's favorite pencil neck, Adam Schiff, sounds off.

00:24:31.000 We'll get to that in just one second first.

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00:25:55.000 Okay, so, hey Democrats, Jump on the President Trump is embellishing bandwagon to try and suggest that President Trump did something wrong in killing Soleimani, despite the fact that he backed the Iranians off their overt aggression, despite the fact that the Iranians are now protesting in the streets the Iranian regime.

00:26:10.000 Apparently that's very bad.

00:26:12.000 Here's Adam Schiff, pens and make Adam Schiff, talking about Trump fudging the intelligence, trying to make this an intelligence mistake as opposed to a giant foreign policy win.

00:26:20.000 They didn't have specificity.

00:26:22.000 And so when you hear the president out there on Fox, he is fudging the intelligence.

00:26:27.000 And when you hear the secretary say, well, that wasn't what the intelligence said, but that's my personal belief, he is fudging.

00:26:34.000 When Secretary Pompeo was on your show last week and made the claim that the intelligence analysis was that taking Soleimani out would improve our security and leaving him in would make us less safe, that is also fudging.

00:26:49.000 That's not an intelligence conclusion.

00:26:51.000 So again, it's just all fudging, and why do we do this?

00:26:54.000 Trump's point this morning on Twitter is basically correct, which is, yeah, I believed it was four embassies, but guess what?

00:26:59.000 This is what Soleimani did.

00:27:00.000 In the struggles of Democrats, Nancy Pelosi suggesting that the protests are for various reasons, and Adam Schiff going off on the intelligence.

00:27:06.000 How about at some point, somebody just says, Soleimani deserved to die, Trump did the right thing in killing him, this is a good act of deterrence, and we're gonna have to take precautions against future Iranian aggression, but that's been true for decades. 1.00

00:27:16.000 End of story.

00:27:16.000 And we stand with the Iranian people, and we stand with the president standing against the Iranian people.

00:27:20.000 Would that be so hard?

00:27:21.000 Honestly, like, is it that hard?

00:27:22.000 Apparently, the answer is yes, it is indeed that hard.

00:27:25.000 Okay, now, we move on to the 2020 Democratic presidential race.

00:27:29.000 So, there's a big debate coming up this week, and that debate really is featuring a three-way face-off.

00:27:35.000 Now, Elizabeth Warren is barely making it into the conversation these days, so really, it's about Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders, but Sanders is clocking Warren as well.

00:27:42.000 I'll tell you who's not in the conversation anymore, and that, of course, is Cory McBooker.

00:27:47.000 Cory McBooker, this morning, dropped out of the presidential race in the saddest story since Toy Story 4, when he finally parted ways with Mr. Potato Head, the real Mr. Potato Head.

00:27:55.000 Candidate Potato Head is now gone.

00:27:57.000 He's replaced his angry eyes.

00:27:58.000 I'm so angry.

00:28:00.000 Cory Booker, so angry.

00:28:02.000 Very deliberate blinking.

00:28:04.000 He's replaced his angry eyes with his sad eyes.

00:28:06.000 And then he came out on Monday and sent an email to his supporters.

00:28:10.000 Now, he's been sending emails to his supporters for the last several weeks since Kamala Harris dropped out, being like, I'm black!

00:28:15.000 Do you see me?

00:28:16.000 Kamala's out!

00:28:17.000 Only black guy right here! 1.00

00:28:20.000 Look, right here, me, black. 0.58

00:28:22.000 Everybody else there?

00:28:23.000 White. 0.81

00:28:23.000 Except for Andrew Yang. 0.81

00:28:24.000 He doesn't count.

00:28:24.000 Everybody else is white.

00:28:25.000 And let me just tell you, you need a black person on that stage or you're all a bunch of racist angry highs. 1.00

00:28:31.000 I'm so angry. 1.00

00:28:32.000 I'm so disappointed with the Democratic Party.

00:28:35.000 We started off.

00:28:36.000 Yeah, it wasn't his time. 1.00

00:28:47.000 It turns out he was a garbage candidate, just like Kamala Harris was a garbage candidate, and now he has put on his sad eyes. 0.99

00:28:53.000 He opened his back, took out the sad eyes, Rosario Dawson popped those in for him, and he said, Our campaign has reached the point where we need more money to scale up and continue building a campaign that can win. 0.98

00:29:03.000 Money we don't have and money that is harder to raise because I won't be on the next debate stage and because the urgent business of impeachment will rightly be keeping me in Washington.

00:29:11.000 So Booker is using the impeachment as an excuse for ending his campaign.

00:29:15.000 In his letter to supporters, Booker writes, I believe to my core that the answer to the common pain Americans are feeling right now The answer to Donald Trump's hatred and division is to reignite our spirit of common purpose, to take on our biggest challenges, and build a more just and fair country for everyone.

00:29:29.000 I've always believed that.

00:29:30.000 I still believe that.

00:29:31.000 I'm proud I never compromised my faith in these principles during this campaign to score political points or tear down others.

00:29:36.000 Actually, very early on in the campaign, he sort of implied that Joe Biden was a racist.

00:29:40.000 He was incredibly divisive throughout the campaign, but pretended that he was a unifier throughout the campaign.

00:29:44.000 He couldn't decide whether he was campaigning on righteous indignation or whether he was campaigning on hopey, changey Barack Obama kind of stuff.

00:29:51.000 And so he was just a giant fail.

00:29:53.000 He intends to run for reelection to the Senate.

00:29:56.000 He'll probably win because he's in New Jersey and whatever.

00:29:59.000 But this means, you know, hashtag Oscar so white, hashtag Democrats so white.

00:30:05.000 And I'm really looking forward to the latest rounds of recrimination.

00:30:07.000 I also look forward to the retrospective pieces in the New York Times op-ed page about why we all should take Cory Booker more seriously.

00:30:13.000 Basically, every time a Democrat of color drops out, we get a round of think pieces about why that candidate was actually awesome, even though they had no support.

00:30:21.000 You didn't get that for Beto, because Beto was a white dude. 0.57

00:30:23.000 But you did get that for Kamala Harris.

00:30:26.000 Tons of think pieces about, we're all going to miss Kamala.

00:30:28.000 She was so important.

00:30:30.000 Nope.

00:30:31.000 And then you got it with Julián Castro, right?

00:30:33.000 Castro dropped out and everybody's like, oh man, that Julián Castro, what a guy, what a wonderful, wonderful dude.

00:30:39.000 It is funny how the treatment of candidates of color in the Democratic Party is they are ignored while they are alive, and then at their funeral, everybody gets up and eulogizes like Marc Anthony over Julius Caesar's body.

00:30:51.000 Oh, this Julian Castro, what a great candidate he was!

00:30:55.000 I come not to praise Julian Castro, but to bury him.

00:30:58.000 They're going to do the same thing with Cory Booker.

00:31:02.000 We're gonna see all these people now come out of the woodwork.

00:31:03.000 Cory Booker, isn't it sad that he's gone?

00:31:05.000 It just shows the endemic racism of American society.

00:31:08.000 It's like Barack Obama never existed in the Democratic Party.

00:31:10.000 They do the same thing at the Oscars, by the way.

00:31:12.000 The Oscar nominations came out today, and already you're getting the, there aren't enough people of color in the Oscar nominations.

00:31:18.000 Where is Lupita Nyong'o?

00:31:19.000 Didn't she win an Oscar like two years ago for, or five years ago for 12 Years a Slave?

00:31:24.000 Is it like every year that you have to do this?

00:31:26.000 Like every single year?

00:31:28.000 Also, didn't, what's her face, Cynthia Erivo, didn't she just get an Oscar nomination for Harriet?

00:31:35.000 So, I'm confused.

00:31:37.000 In any case, the Democrats are the same way. 0.99

00:31:39.000 Barack Obama never existed, and so every election cycle they're supposed to prove they're not racist by nominating a black person, or nominating a Hispanic person, and then if they don't, then it's because they're racist, and then we lament all those candidates who couldn't pick up any support because they were garbage candidates. 0.99

00:31:51.000 Okay, so what does this leave us with? 1.00

00:31:53.000 It leaves us with a bunch of old white people! 1.00

00:31:55.000 Yes, it's the old white people primary inside the Democratic Party.

00:31:58.000 So in just one second, we'll get to the old white people primary, where the oldest, not the whitest, but the oldest person on the Democratic debate stage is gaining momentum in the betting odds. 0.54

00:32:07.000 He's now drawing even with Joe Biden.

00:32:09.000 We'll get We'll get to Bernard McSanders in just one second.

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00:32:50.000 All righty.

00:32:56.000 So if you look at the betting odds today, Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders are basically even.

00:33:00.000 In the betting odds, Joe Biden is up by less than a point.

00:33:02.000 Now, those betting odds don't really mean a lot, considering that back in November, Elizabeth Warren was at like 50% in the betting odds to be the nominee.

00:33:09.000 It just shows that Sanders does have momentum going into Iowa.

00:33:12.000 And that is particularly true because Donald Trump did a foreign policy thing that is good, and it was interventionist.

00:33:17.000 And Democrats aren't allowed to say that it was good, and they aren't allowed to say that the intervention was useful.

00:33:22.000 So instead, they're going to swing toward the isolationism that Bernie Sanders has been promoting idiotically his entire career because he's always been wrong about everything.

00:33:29.000 Right now, in the polling data, the latest poll has Bernie Sanders up in Iowa.

00:33:33.000 Buttigieg has been fading pretty strongly in both Iowa and New Hampshire.

00:33:36.000 According to the latest Des Moines Register CNN poll, this just came out.

00:33:40.000 On January 8th, Bernie Sanders is up at 20%, followed by Elizabeth Warren, Buttigieg, and Biden, all between 15 and 17%.

00:33:47.000 The margin of error in that poll is 3.7%.

00:33:50.000 So that means that Sanders is indeed leading.

00:33:53.000 It would be sort of surprising if Sanders does not win Iowa, given the fact that it is a caucus state, which means that enthusiasm really counts.

00:33:58.000 Remember, in the caucus states, it's not that everybody goes and casts a ballot.

00:34:01.000 It's that you actually gather at a caucus place and then there's shows of hands and all of this.

00:34:05.000 Social pressure matters a lot.

00:34:06.000 Turning out the vote matters a lot.

00:34:08.000 That does benefit Sanders.

00:34:10.000 And then they move on to New Hampshire, a state that Sanders won 49% of the vote just the last election cycle.

00:34:16.000 According to the latest Monmouth poll that came out on January 7th, Buttigieg Buttigieg is still leading there, although it is basically a group of three right at the top.

00:34:23.000 Buttigieg 20, Biden 19, Sanders 18.

00:34:26.000 If Sanders were to win Iowa, assuredly you would see a boost in New Hampshire as well.

00:34:30.000 CBS YouGov poll that came out on January 3rd actually has Sanders in the lead at 27% over Biden at 25%.

00:34:37.000 The real question is whether you're going to see some movement for Sanders in Nevada and if he can win a big victory in either of these two states.

00:34:44.000 What you would need for Bernie Sanders to take the nomination is for Bernie Sanders to win big over Joe Biden in either Iowa or New Hampshire and then to run the table and take Nevada as well.

00:34:53.000 The Nevada polling Again, it's been incredibly sporadic.

00:34:56.000 There's only one poll in Nevada in the last two months, and that is a poll that just came out January 8th from Fox News.

00:35:02.000 It shows Biden up by only six points over Bernie Sanders.

00:35:04.000 That six point lead is not a large lead when you consider the fact that Joe Biden could lose the first couple of states and then the media would turn to Bernie Sanders Might be the guy.

00:35:13.000 Bernie, for his part, is getting more and more aggressive, which is, of course, the smart play.

00:35:17.000 He's been sort of withholding his fire until now.

00:35:19.000 He's going after Joe Biden and going after Joe Biden incredibly hard.

00:35:23.000 In fact, he expects in the debates this week for Joe Biden to be attacked on his foreign policy record early and often.

00:35:30.000 And the question is going to be whether Democrats really believe in the sort of full-on isolationist kookiness of Bernie Sanders, the pro-communist isolationism of Bernie Sanders, who has never met a communist tyranny he wasn't willing to bow before, nor has he met a Democratic ally he was willing to stand up for.

00:35:45.000 Are they going to prefer that, or are they going to prefer the sort of finger-in-the-wind foreign policy of Joe Biden?

00:35:48.000 Because here's the problem with Joe Biden.

00:35:50.000 He is sort of a muddle-through guy.

00:35:52.000 Muddling through is, in fact, America's actual foreign policy.

00:35:55.000 For all the talk about America's principled foreign policy, since the end of the Cold War, muddling through has sort of been the rule rather than the exception.

00:36:01.000 And the leader in muddling through has been Joe Biden, who has taken every stance on every possible issue.

00:36:05.000 For example, this week, Joe Biden and John Kerry, his surrogate, The worst secretary of state in American history.

00:36:12.000 They were going around saying that Joe Biden didn't actually vote for the war in Iraq.

00:36:15.000 He voted to authorize Bush to go through the process with regard to Iraq at the United Nations.

00:36:21.000 But that is nonsense.

00:36:22.000 Bernie Sanders released a video from 2003 in which Joe Biden was praising George W. Bush with regard to the Iraq war.

00:36:28.000 The cost of not acting against Saddam, I think, would have been much greater.

00:36:33.000 And so is the cost, and so will be the cost of not finishing this job.

00:36:40.000 The President of the United States is a bold leader and he is popular.

00:36:46.000 The stakes are high and the need for leadership is great.

00:36:51.000 I wish he'd use some of his stored up popularity to make what I admit is not a very popular case, but I and many others will support him.

00:37:00.000 Okay, so that was Joe Biden back in 2003, strongly standing by George W. Bush and the Iraq War.

00:37:04.000 Now, of course, he runs screaming from the Iraq War because it has become Sort of the popular wisdom, the conventional wisdom that the Iraq War is the biggest mistake in American foreign policy history and all of this sort of nonsense.

00:37:14.000 Bernie Sanders, by contrast.

00:37:16.000 So the Democrats have to choose between Joe Biden, who takes every position on every issue, but at least understands at root that America can't run away from the world, or Bernie Sanders, who has the ability, and this is one of the things that's nice about isolationism.

00:37:30.000 Isolationism is always popular until precisely the moment that it isn't.

00:37:33.000 This is true throughout American history.

00:37:34.000 Isolationism was popular in the run-up to World War I until precisely the moment the Lusitania got sunk, at which point the American public was like, no, screw this, we're gonna bang on the hun.

00:37:43.000 And then we got to World War II, and isolationism was extremely popular in the United States all the way up to Really, the German invasion of France and even beyond.

00:37:52.000 It took a year beyond the German invasion of France for the United States to get involved in the war.

00:37:56.000 And that was only after a revert attack at Pearl Harbor.

00:37:59.000 Isolationism is always popular until it isn't.

00:38:01.000 So Bernie Sanders always gets, especially in the last several decades, when the United States has never been on the verge of being militarily overpowered.

00:38:08.000 Right, at least with World War I and World War II, you could say that the United States had actual rivals for global hegemony.

00:38:13.000 That has not been true in the past several decades, and certainly not since the fall of the Soviet Union.

00:38:17.000 And so, Bernie Sanders' foreign policy, which is basically, what if we just sit here?

00:38:21.000 What if we just sit here and let bad guys do whatever they want to all over the world?

00:38:23.000 Is that gonna hurt us?

00:38:25.000 What if we just support communists all over?

00:38:27.000 Whatever! 0.98

00:38:27.000 Who cares? 0.98

00:38:29.000 That is a fairly popular position given the fact that America's power is not truly threatened on an existential level by any of these other countries.

00:38:38.000 Maybe with the exception of China?

00:38:39.000 Maybe?

00:38:40.000 And even that is more of a long-term threat rather than a short-term military threat.

00:38:45.000 So Bernie Sanders has sort of an inherent advantage, but Democrats are also going to have to face up to the fact that Bernie Sanders is a guy who thinks that the Squad has great foreign policy ideas.

00:38:53.000 Bernie Sanders is on the trail this weekend, and he is stumping for the Squad, thanking them for what they do every day.

00:38:58.000 This would be AOC, who's making common cause with Jeremy Corbyn, the open anti-Semite in Great Britain.

00:39:03.000 This is Ilhan Omar.

00:39:04.000 who signs letters to judges asking for mercy on people recruited to ISIS and suggests that we should sanction Israel but not Iran, and then suggests that we should basically back off of Maduro in Venezuela.

00:39:15.000 Here's Bernie Sanders thanking all of those people.

00:39:17.000 So what you have a choice between is an isolationist old commie and Joe Biden, who has the principles of a jellyfish.

00:39:24.000 I wanted to thank Rashida Tlaib for doing that exactly.

00:39:31.000 What she and other members of the so-called squad And she's really, she's really standing against the Jews. 0.96

00:39:39.000 The Jews. 0.64

00:39:40.000 What Rashida is doing every day is standing up for the working families of this country and day after day having the courage to take on powerful special interests.

00:39:53.000 And she's really she's really standing against the Jews. 0.95

00:39:57.000 The Jews. 0.64

00:39:58.000 Now, again, Bernie Sanders.

00:39:59.000 He let's just put it this way. 0.90

00:40:02.000 His group is rife with anti-Semites.

00:40:05.000 Bernie Sanders?

00:40:07.000 is not an anti-Semite, as far as I know.

00:40:08.000 Man's Jewish, at least by birth. 1.00

00:40:10.000 But the fact is that Bernie Sanders surrounds himself with the worst sort of anti-Semites.

00:40:14.000 I mean, he campaigns with Linda Sarsour, and Ilhan Omar, and Rashida Tlaib.

00:40:17.000 But put aside the anti-Semitism, his actual foreign policy is extraordinarily radical.

00:40:20.000 And so Democrats may cheer all the sloganeering, but Barack Obama did this too, right?

00:40:24.000 Barack Obama was into the isolationist sloganeering, and then he became president, launched a war in Libya, launched a drone war, increased troop presence in Iraq, in Afghanistan, had to reverse himself and increase troop presence in Iraq in order to fight ISIS.

00:40:36.000 It turns out that that presidential seat tends to make you more interventionist because when threats around the world materialize, well, you gotta do something about it.

00:40:42.000 But Bernie might not do that. 0.99

00:40:44.000 And so Democrats might have to come to grips with the fact that all of their sloganeering is generally stupid, and that a man who puts that into practice is actually dangerous. 0.99

00:40:52.000 There's an article in the Washington Post today by Sean Sullivan talking about Bernie Sanders' foreign policy. 0.98

00:40:56.000 It says, when Bolivia's leftist president was pressured to resign by his country's military after an audit found signs of a tainted election two months ago, many American leaders showed little interest in condemning the ouster.

00:41:05.000 Some said it was a potentially positive step for democracy, a sign, as President Trump put it, that the will of the people will always prevail.

00:41:11.000 A sharply different response came from Bernie Sanders, who immediately condemned, quote, what appears to be a coup.

00:41:16.000 The ousted leader, Evo Morales, who had challenged term limits to remain in power, later thanked the senator from Vermont and Democratic presidential candidate, referring to him affectionately as brother.

00:41:24.000 Most of Sanders' rivals paid little attention to the incident in a faraway place, but for Sanders, the episode offers a glimpse into an unorthodox foreign policy worldview.

00:41:33.000 Basically, he has the same foreign policy worldview as Noam Chomsky.

00:41:35.000 He's a radical, radical leftist who believes that America's role in the world is based in racism, imperialism, colonialism.

00:41:41.000 It's like he read V.I.

00:41:42.000 Lenin's Imperialism back in college and he never got over it. 0.99

00:41:46.000 A garbage book, by the way.

00:41:47.000 With the Iran crisis thrusting foreign affairs to the forefront of the campaign, just as Sanders rises in early state polls, Democrats who previously waved off the Senators' views as fringe now must contemplate the possibility of a Democratic Socialist becoming Commander-in-Chief of the United States. 0.97

00:42:00.000 Trump has already upended the world order with an America First approach that tests Western alliances.

00:42:05.000 Sanders would deliver another jolt, echoing some of Trump's criticisms of military action and free train, but realigning the country's priorities even more strongly.

00:42:12.000 Well, what that actually means is that he would presumably try to make alliances with actual terror groups, right?

00:42:16.000 He suggested that the United States withdraw military aid from Israel and give it to an actual terrorist group in the Gaza Strip, Hamas.

00:42:22.000 Beyond his objection to Morales' removal, Sanders has poignantly declined to label Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro a dictator because he is a commie. 0.82

00:42:29.000 He called Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu a racist for the great sin of noting that the Arab parties in Israel stand for the destruction of the State of Israel.

00:42:36.000 He has campaigned with Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar, both of whom favor sanctions against the State of Israel.

00:42:41.000 He said that China has done more to address extreme poverty than any country in the history of civilization, neglecting the forced abortion of some 350 million children minimum, and the forced sterilization of presumably tens of millions of women, and also neglecting the fact the only thing that allowed China to rise from poverty at all was their engagement in the free market and free trade.

00:43:00.000 Also, Sanders opposed the 2000 invasion of Iraq.

00:43:02.000 That's going to be his bumper sticker against Joe Biden this week.

00:43:05.000 Aaron David Miller, former advisor to six secretaries of state, now senior fellow at Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.

00:43:10.000 He says, I think it would be a fundamental shift, assuming his principles hold in the transition from campaigning to governing.

00:43:15.000 Even some Democrats note Sanders has put much more emphasis on domestic policies than global ones.

00:43:19.000 That's right, because domestic socialism is more popular than international alliances with some of the worst people on the face of the planet.

00:43:27.000 Senator Richard Durbin, who is a wild leftist, said it hasn't been his strong suit, but Sanders and company are making the case that Joe Biden is basically on Trump's side, that Biden and Trump are closer together than Biden and Sanders, which of course is true when it comes to foreign policy.

00:43:42.000 That's a dangerous choice for Democrats to make.

00:43:44.000 But Bernie is gaining and he is picking up steam also because running this close to Joe Biden, Elizabeth Warren is still carrying 15 to 20 percent of the vote.

00:43:51.000 And so Sanders is now reorienting himself.

00:43:53.000 He's saying, OK, well, I've got sort of my ceiling here, but if I tear down Elizabeth Warren and she drops out, most of her support will go to me.

00:44:00.000 Now, what the statistics show is that a heavy share of Elizabeth Warren's support will actually go to Biden, too.

00:44:04.000 But he's not wrong that a plurality of that support will go to him.

00:44:08.000 This is why Sanders is beginning to try to push Warren out of the race more and more quickly.

00:44:12.000 By the way, if Warren loses Iowa-New Hampshire, she's done.

00:44:14.000 At that point, the race is over for her.

00:44:16.000 She's got to win New Hampshire. 0.99

00:44:17.000 She's got to win either Iowa or New Hampshire because she's got no potential in any of the future states. 1.00

00:44:23.000 Sanders' presidential campaign, according to the Washington Post, has suddenly gone on the attack as he seeks to secure an opening in the early February caucuses, engaging in a rare dispute with Senator Elizabeth Warren, tussling with former VP Joe Biden, drawing an insult from President Trump.

00:44:35.000 Which, by the way, if you're Trump and you want Sanders as your opponent, that'd be your smart move, would be to insult Sanders.

00:44:40.000 Because then it makes, it elevates Sanders.

00:44:41.000 Anybody you want to elevate, you insult.

00:44:43.000 Although Sanders had mostly resisted comparing himself with other candidates, his surrogates and aides intensified their attacks on Biden, targeting his past positions on racial issues and his vote to sanction the Iraq War.

00:44:54.000 A script first reported by Politico told Sanders' volunteers to tell voters that they called on Sanders' behalf, who had indicated support for her that Warren's popularity was limited to the rich and educated denigrating her electability.

00:45:05.000 Elizabeth Warren, for her part, was firing back at Bernie Sanders, suggesting that she was quote-unquote disappointed with Sanders' campaign script painting her as elitist.

00:45:14.000 She used the opportunity to warn about factionalism.

00:45:16.000 She says, I hope Bernie reconsiders and turns his campaign in a different direction. 0.99

00:45:20.000 But Bernie's not going to make the same mistake with Elizabeth Warren he made with Hillary Clinton, which was, who cares about her damn emails? 0.99

00:45:26.000 They kept saying that over and over. 0.99

00:45:27.000 And then it turned out, not enough Democrats cared about her damn emails to nominate Sanders. 0.98

00:45:30.000 He's not going to make that mistake with Elizabeth Warren. 0.99

00:45:32.000 At a certain point here, he's going to turn and he's going to clock Warren.

00:45:34.000 And that is what is happening right now.

00:45:38.000 Sanders' emergence at the center of the clashes reflected his pivotal position in the race for the Democratic nomination.

00:45:42.000 A little more than three months after suffering a heart attack, he has moved to the top of the polls in Iowa.

00:45:47.000 Again, I got that one wrong.

00:45:49.000 I thought after he had a heart attack, the Democrats would be like, okay, this old one is done.

00:45:52.000 Apparently not.

00:45:52.000 Apparently he still has that solid base.

00:45:55.000 And all of the Democrats who kind of supported Warren and Buttigieg have come back around to Sanders versus Biden.

00:46:00.000 And that's not as clear cut a debate as people thought that it would be.

00:46:05.000 Trump, for his part, was tweeting about Bernie sort of cryptically.

00:46:08.000 Wow!

00:46:10.000 Crazy Bernie Sanders is surging in the polls!

00:46:12.000 Looking very good against his opponents in the Do Nothing Party!

00:46:15.000 So what does this all mean?

00:46:16.000 Stay tuned!

00:46:17.000 Well, let that really, the stay tuned means that Trump's about to unleash a barrage of attack ads on Bernie Sanders.

00:46:22.000 Bernie tweeted back at Trump, it means they're going to lose.

00:46:25.000 Well, a little bit early for that there, Bernie.

00:46:29.000 But suffice it to say that the debates this week should be a lot more fraught than the debates in the past.

00:46:34.000 Democrats are running out of time to attack each other.

00:46:36.000 They can't just hug each other until the end of this campaign and hope to win.

00:46:39.000 Elizabeth Warren is going to have to go after Sanders. 1.00

00:46:41.000 Sanders is going to have to go after Elizabeth Warren.

00:46:43.000 I think Sanders comes away best in that exchange.

00:46:45.000 Warren does not have a point of differentiation for Sanders.

00:46:48.000 She hijacked his Medicare for All plan and then ran away from it. 0.98

00:46:51.000 She's lied about her own policies a thousand times.

00:46:53.000 She's not as authentic.

00:46:54.000 As Bernie Sanders is, authenticity counts a lot on that stage. 0.72

00:46:57.000 Joe Biden can just point to the fact that Bernie is kind of a kook.

00:47:01.000 And when I say kind of a kook, I mean a massive, massive kook.

00:47:03.000 I would expect Buttigieg to bang on Bernie for that same issue.

00:47:08.000 But, that does put Bernie at the center of the stage, and Bernie is the one who is seeming to break loose right now.

00:47:14.000 It is late in the game.

00:47:16.000 Bernie is a wild card team in the NFL playoffs.

00:47:19.000 You win your last four games, and suddenly you go into the playoffs riding on a streak, and you're the Tennessee Titans.

00:47:24.000 Do not count Bernie out at this point.

00:47:26.000 Again, as I've said, good for Trump, bad for the country.

00:47:28.000 Good for Trump in the sense that easier for Trump to run against Bernie than to run against Biden.

00:47:32.000 Very bad for the country in the sense that the possibility of Bernie Sanders as President of the United States is absolutely terrifying.

00:47:38.000 Okay, time for a quick thing that I like and then we'll get to a quick thing that I hate.

00:47:44.000 So, things that I like.

00:47:46.000 Joy Behar met with Nancy Pelosi the other day, so it was a great meeting of brilliant leaders.

00:47:52.000 They took a picture together.

00:47:53.000 Joy Behar tweeted out, Nancy and I calculating Trump's lies to date.

00:47:57.000 I guess on her phone.

00:47:58.000 Nancy and me, Joy.

00:48:01.000 What a genius she is.

00:48:03.000 And it always assures me when Nancy Pelosi meets with a person who hates Trump so much that she applauded Richard Spencer on her show the other day.

00:48:10.000 But I like it.

00:48:11.000 At least they are out front about the people of whom they are fond.

00:48:15.000 So Joy Behar and Nancy Pelosi getting together.

00:48:18.000 Other things that I like today.

00:48:20.000 So the Democrats are beginning to realize that Nancy Pelosi's impeachment effort is a giant fail.

00:48:25.000 The Washington Post's Rachel Bade explained over the weekend This week on ABC, that many Democrats internally are saying that Nancy Pelosi's strategy did not paint Mitch McConnell into a corner on impeachment, that instead, she basically accomplished nothing. 0.63

00:48:37.000 Here's the Washington Post's Rachel Bade.

00:48:39.000 She's clearly putting a positive spin on what a lot of Democrats have privately said was a failed strategy.

00:48:45.000 I mean, she and Chuck Schumer, the minority leader in the Senate, set out to, number one, try to get a commitment from McConnell on witnesses, firsthand witnesses to have him testify in a Senate trial.

00:48:54.000 She also said she wanted to see a resolution about, you know, how the whole proceedings would be governed.

00:49:00.000 She got neither of those.

00:49:01.000 And that, of course, is exactly true.

00:49:03.000 Nancy Pelosi is basically acknowledging her own irrelevance at this point. 0.63

00:49:06.000 She's protesting against the fact that her strategy was an enormous failure.

00:49:10.000 So, aside from being on this week and denigrating Iranian protesters, she was also on this week and she suggested that no matter what happens from here, Trump is impeached for life.

00:49:18.000 Well, yeah, so is Bill Clinton.

00:49:20.000 Has that hurt his legacy in any real way?

00:49:22.000 Not much.

00:49:23.000 Not much.

00:49:24.000 It turns out that being impeached but not expelled from office does not have any real long-term impact on the way that the American people view you, especially when it turns out that that was done with only Democratic votes.

00:49:33.000 But Nancy Pelosi's like, we did our part.

00:49:34.000 We spoke for history.

00:49:35.000 Blah, blah, blah.

00:49:36.000 Okay, here's Nancy Pelosi.

00:49:37.000 Dentures are moving.

00:49:39.000 We have confidence in our case that it is impeachable, and this president is impeached for life, regardless of any gamesmanship on the part of Mitch McConnell.

00:49:51.000 However, that could still come to bear.

00:49:54.000 But we're confident in the impeachment, and we think that it is enough testimony to remove him from office.

00:50:00.000 However, we want the American people to see the truth.

00:50:03.000 And why are they afraid of the truth?

00:50:06.000 Okay, it's going to allow the American people to see that he's impeached forever.

00:50:09.000 Forever he's impeached.

00:50:11.000 Yeah, sure.

00:50:12.000 You really have changed the world, Nancy Pelosi.

00:50:14.000 Put her on the cover of Time magazine for her brilliant manipulations here. 1.00

00:50:19.000 Okay, time for a quick thing that I hate.

00:50:26.000 So there's an article from Arianna Njuncha over at the Washington Post.

00:50:29.000 It is called, Five years after an abortion, most women say they made the right decision. 0.96

00:50:34.000 First off, we should just acknowledge that when people make a decision in life, it is extraordinarily rare that they look back and they say publicly, that was a mistake.

00:50:43.000 It's a rare thing.

00:50:44.000 It's a rare thing for people to feel shame or guilt about things they have done, especially something as morally deplorable as killing an unborn child.

00:50:52.000 Because in order for you to look back with regret, you have to acknowledge the enormity of what it is that you just did.

00:50:58.000 In order for you to look back with regret, you have to acknowledge that you committed about as grave a sin as it is possible to commit on this earth.

00:51:04.000 To go along with, to choose to kill your own child is an extraordinary, extraordinary sin.

00:51:14.000 And to acknowledge that is obviously going to lead to some significant cognitive dissonance.

00:51:20.000 Feelings of shame and regret.

00:51:21.000 The fact that any women do it is a sign of moral courage, seriously. 0.97

00:51:25.000 And you see this throughout the world.

00:51:27.000 I've spoken about this documentary that came out this year.

00:51:29.000 It was not nominated for Best Oscar Documentary.

00:51:32.000 This is the biggest oversight, actually.

00:51:33.000 One Child Nation, which I think is the best documentary of the last 10 years.

00:51:37.000 Even there, it was amazing.

00:51:38.000 The filmmaker at the very end of the film tries to make the case for the sort of pro-abortion case in the United States because there, in China, women were forced into abortions, but here they get to choose abortion and that makes all the difference.

00:51:48.000 No, I mean, either that's a life or it's not a life.

00:51:50.000 Either you mourn the life or you don't mourn the life.

00:51:52.000 They're two separate issues.

00:51:53.000 One is the invasion of women's choice, and the other is what the woman is choosing to do. 1.00

00:51:57.000 Now forced sterilization, for example, is a very different evil from allowing abortion.

00:52:02.000 These are two very different issues.

00:52:03.000 In any case, That film, which is all about the evils of forced abortion, it has an entire section in One Child Nation, it's really unbelievable, about how many Chinese women, because they wanted a boy, if they had a girl, and the girl is completely born, okay, this is in the fetus, the girl is completely born, would take the baby to the market, drop the baby off in a wicker basket at the market, and just leave the baby there.

00:52:27.000 And if no one took the baby, the baby would die of heat exposure, would die of exposure to Insects or starve to death.

00:52:36.000 And what was amazing about the documentary is that the documentarian then went back and talked to all these women and asked, did you dislike the one child policy?

00:52:44.000 Was it wrong?

00:52:45.000 And women say no. 1.00

00:52:46.000 Do you feel you did anything wrong?

00:52:47.000 No is what we had to do at the time.

00:52:49.000 That's just what the policy was.

00:52:50.000 The human capacity to go along with evil in order to justify our own actions is nearly endless.

00:52:56.000 It's why what good people have to spend time doing every day is what we in Hebrew call teshuvah, right?

00:53:01.000 We have to spend an enormous amount of time examining our own actions, trying to examine our own actions for the sins that we may have committed.

00:53:07.000 In Judaism, this is a big thing.

00:53:08.000 In Christianity, obviously, this is quite a big thing.

00:53:11.000 It should be a big thing for any good person, whether you're religious or not religious.

00:53:14.000 But the point being made here is that the fact that there are any women at all who have an abortion and then feel bad about it later is a sign of the human capacity for repentance, and that's good.

00:53:24.000 But the way this study is done, if women don't regret it, that means that women should have the right to do it, which is an insane standard, right? 0.88

00:53:29.000 I mean, obviously, OJ Simpson, I don't think regrets killing Nicole Brown Simpson.

00:53:35.000 That doesn't mean that he had a right to do it.

00:53:36.000 The Washington Post, though, reports, there's been quite a lot of research about women's emotions immediately following an abortion.

00:53:40.000 Some experience sadness, guilt, and anger.

00:53:42.000 Others feel relief.

00:53:43.000 For many, it's a mix of all of these and more.

00:53:45.000 But what about in the long term?

00:53:46.000 Researchers from the University of California at San Francisco delved into this question in an analysis of 667 women recruited from 30 sites across the country as part of the Turnaway Study, a landmark body of research about how abortion affects women physically, socially, emotionally, and economically.

00:54:01.000 Starting one week after their abortions and then twice yearly after that, the women were asked about their feelings.

00:54:06.000 The authors said they wondered about stigma and how the women would reflect on their decisions as time passed.

00:54:11.000 What they found was a surprise.

00:54:12.000 Over time, all emotions, good and bad, faded.

00:54:15.000 Well, that makes sense.

00:54:16.000 I mean, as time goes on, people rarely feel the same way as they do in the heat of the moment.

00:54:21.000 A really interesting finding is how the intensity of all emotions is so low, said Corinne Rocha, lead author of the study and UCSF Associate Professor of Obstetrics, Gynecology, and Reproductive Sciences.

00:54:31.000 A week after their abortions, about 51% of women expressed mostly positive emotions, 17% expressed negative emotions, and 20% said they had few or none.

00:54:40.000 As time went by, the number who felt few or none emotions rose sharply.

00:54:43.000 At the five-year mark, 84% reported either primarily positive emotions or none at all, while 6% had primarily negative feelings.

00:54:50.000 There was no evidence of new negative or positive emotions, the authors said.

00:54:54.000 Immediately after their abortions, 95% of those who agreed to interviews said they had made the right decision.

00:54:58.000 First of all, that makes sense.

00:55:00.000 Again, that is a real subsection.

00:55:02.000 Agreed to interviews.

00:55:04.000 What are you going to agree to an interview and be like, yeah, I really effed that one up. 0.88

00:55:06.000 That was my child and I killed it.

00:55:08.000 What do you think?

00:55:09.000 It's a self-selected group, in other words.

00:55:10.000 At five years, that percentage increased to 99%.

00:55:13.000 Roca was careful to point out that a woman's feelings of regret and her judgment that an abortion was the correct decision for her under the circumstances are different things.

00:55:20.000 You can feel the emotion of regret, yet feel what you did was right for you.

00:55:23.000 So in other words, she thinks that it's 100% of women who should not feel any regret about what they did.

00:55:29.000 The study authors wrote that their findings challenged the rationale for state-mandated counseling protocols and other policies regulating access to abortion premised on emotional harm claims, e.g.

00:55:38.000 waiting periods.

00:55:40.000 Well, no, actually, because those waiting periods are based on the idea that women have not, in many cases, fully considered the possibility of what it is they are doing, that a lot of the state-mandated regulations with regard to, like, seeing 40 ultrasounds are designed to give the woman more information before she just goes in there on the vague promise that that fetus is actually just a cluster of cells.

00:56:01.000 But according to Rocha, what the study is showing is that there is a small minority who do regret their abortions.

00:56:05.000 I know I want to reduce the struggles of those who regret their abortions, but it is misguided to take away options for everyone based on this minority.

00:56:12.000 Well, no, usually the attempt to take away abortion has very little to do with the emotional status of the women affected.

00:56:18.000 It has a lot more to do with trying to grant women more information so they can make a morally proper decision with regard to whether or not to dispose of their own child.

00:56:26.000 But again, The study itself is incredibly foolish in the sense that most people have an incredible capacity, as I've said, for overlooking their own sins, for not regretting their own sins, and the fact that anybody regrets what they've done in the past is a sign that the human being is capable of change.

00:56:44.000 And so it is the job of good-hearted people who care about the unborn to make the case to women that your feelings of regret should not be a barrier. 0.65

00:56:54.000 to you or you're feeling that you don't want to feel guilty should not be a barrier to you changing your mind it's a sign of you being a better person right when you repent to sin that makes you a better person not a worse person in in sort of jewish thought there's a whole school of thought in the talmud that suggests that if you have sinned and you repent to sin in some ways this makes you greater than the person who has never sinned at all Because you've now had to go from the depths to the heights, as opposed to having been in the heights the entire time.

00:57:21.000 There's a whole school of thought in the Talmud that says that your sins actually turn to merit when you fully repent those sins and recognize that what you did was wrong.

00:57:26.000 That's how difficult it is to do repentance.

00:57:29.000 And this is true in every school, not just abortion.

00:57:33.000 We should all be examining our actions every day to determine what it is that we did that was wrong, how we can do better in the future.

00:57:38.000 But this is why the pro-abort movement tends to push the shout-your-abortion idea, because once you've shouted your abortion, it's very difficult for you to then climb down from that perspective and suggest, wait a second, I never should have shouted that abortion, that abortion was wrong.

00:57:51.000 Alrighty, we'll be back here a little bit later today with two additional hours of content.

00:57:54.000 Otherwise, we'll see you here tomorrow in preparation for the big Democratic debate.

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00:58:29.000 Iranians take to the streets to protest their dirtbag terrorist leaders in exactly the way conservatives predicted they would in direct opposition to two weeks of leftist howling. 0.88

00:58:39.000 We will examine how Trump got it so right and why reality contradicts the left's international worldview.

00:58:45.000 Then, Bernie takes the lead in Iowa.

00:58:48.000 Democratic party elites are furious, I couldn't be happier.

00:58:51.000 Then Brexit.

00:58:52.000 Nexit.

00:58:52.000 And the passing of one of the great conservative thinkers of our age.

The Ben Shapiro Show - January 13, 2020

When The Media Don’t Care About Iranians | Ep. 930

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