The Ben Shapiro Show - Who Will They Ban Next? | Ep. 1251

00:00:00.000 After Facebook's oversight board backs the company's ban on Donald Trump, Democrats call for more.

00:00:04.000 The Biden administration keeps playing politics with COVID and Kamala Harris makes out with her husband through a mask.

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00:01:34.000 Alrighty, so the big story of the day continues to be that Facebook has maintained its ban on Donald Trump.

00:01:40.000 Donald Trump, as you'll recall, was banned on January 7th from Facebook, as well as YouTube, as well as Twitter, as well as Instagram, pretty much everywhere.

00:01:47.000 There was a blanket ban put on the sitting president of the United States because he said a bunch of stuff that people didn't like.

00:01:53.000 And it was not clear how it had violated the rules in any substantial way.

00:01:56.000 Certainly no more than Ayatollah Khomeini or Louis Farrakhan or a wide variety of other deplorables around the world.

00:02:02.000 But Donald Trump was banned because the tech bros decided that he was innately dangerous and therefore he had to be banned until after the election.

00:02:09.000 Or until after the inauguration.

00:02:11.000 And then they just were like, okay, well, I guess we'll just leave him banned.

00:02:14.000 Well, the Facebook Oversight Board made two decisions yesterday.

00:02:17.000 One was, was the original ban appropriate?

00:02:19.000 They said yes, based on the idea that Trump had said positive things about people doing violence, which, again, is an odd standard considering the entire Democratic Party came out in strong defense of people doing violence and looting during the summer last year.

00:02:32.000 And continue, by the way, to defend a wide variety of criminals, as long as they are in some sort of tussle with the police.

00:02:38.000 And then the Facebook oversight board did what Facebook didn't want them to do and they tossed the ball back to Facebook.

00:02:43.000 So Facebook set up this oversight board specifically to avoid responsibility for these sorts of things.

00:02:48.000 And then the oversight board was like, well, you can't suspend Trump indefinitely.

00:02:50.000 So we're going to toss this back at you.

00:02:52.000 And in six months or so, you will reevaluate whether Trump ought to be put back on the platforms.

00:02:57.000 Now, all of this should frighten you because the reality is that the rules are just an excuse for Facebook to kick off whoever they want to.

00:03:04.000 YouTube, same sort of deal.

00:03:06.000 You don't actually have to violate the rules in order for public blowback to cause YouTube or Facebook or Twitter to throw you off the internet.

00:03:14.000 This is the real problem.

00:03:15.000 They like to say that all of this is algorithmic, and some of it is algorithmic, but somebody sets up the algorithms.

00:03:20.000 And some of it is just not algorithmic at all.

00:03:21.000 When you make the decision to ban the sitting president of the United States from social media, that is not a decision that is being made by a computer.

00:03:27.000 That is a decision that is being made by high-level people at the companies in question, and in coordinated fashion.

00:03:33.000 I kind of fail to see how it's not collusion, in fact, to see all of the social media companies all at once decide to ban the president of the United States, the same way they did, by the way, to Alex Jones or Milo Yiannopoulos.

00:03:42.000 Doesn't mean I agree with a lot of the things that are said by these folks, but the fact that social media have this sort of top-down control is pretty astonishing.

00:03:49.000 Now, there's this widespread perception out there, and it's a real misperception.

00:03:53.000 that the left and the right agree on this stuff.

00:03:55.000 They don't.

00:03:56.000 People on the right are angry at big tech because they believe that big tech has too much control over the dissemination of information, that big tech can be cuddled and bullied by the mainstream media into basically shutting off all other sources of information.

00:04:09.000 As I've discussed before, the real threat to establishment media is indeed social media.

00:04:13.000 And the reason for that is because with the rise of the internet, you could now go to places like Fox News or Daily Wire if you wanted an alternative view of the news, or if you just wanted to hear news from a conservative perspective or maybe see news covered that the establishment media wouldn't cover.

00:04:27.000 And then, because social media became so big, people started consuming their news via social media.

00:04:32.000 You used to go directly to Fox News or directly to Daily Wire, and now most people get their news by going to Facebook and checking their news feed.

00:04:38.000 Well, this created a sort of almost a sort of bottleneck in the pipeline for informational flow.

00:04:45.000 And the establishment media saw this and they said, oh, look at that.

00:04:48.000 Isn't that interesting?

00:04:49.000 It used to be that all information flowing out through the internet through disparate means, you could go to this website here and this website over there, and it was very difficult to shut that off.

00:04:57.000 But now if everybody is getting their news through Facebook's newsfeed, well, what if we just, you know, took that bottleneck and just kind of closed it?

00:05:04.000 What if we just made sure the only things that could get through the bottleneck are the establishment media sources?

00:05:09.000 And this is what the social media tech bros have been going along with.

00:05:12.000 They set up this measure at Facebook for what they called sort of news authoritativeness.

00:05:17.000 And the way they ranked that was if you're an establishment media source, then you are more authoritative.

00:05:21.000 And if you are not an establishment media source, you are not.

00:05:24.000 Which, of course, to conservatives is anathema because we look at CNN and we say these people report fake news and fake narratives on a fairly regular basis.

00:05:31.000 Washington Post, same thing.

00:05:32.000 New York Times, same thing.

00:05:35.000 Facebook has attempted to sort of outsource, they're constantly attempting to outsource all of this to outside groups.

00:05:40.000 So what they will do is they'll say, well, you know, to determine which news is authoritative, we'll go to fact-checkers.

00:05:45.000 But then the fact-checkers are all left-wing fact-checkers.

00:05:47.000 It's like PolitiFact or Snopes and all these folks are far to the left.

00:05:51.000 And so Facebook basically outsourced its own perspective on free speech to a bunch of outside leftist groups.

00:05:56.000 They tried to do this with the Facebook Oversight Board as well.

00:05:59.000 And the Facebook Oversight Board basically said, look at that, Facebook did the right thing in the first place, but at a certain point, they're going to have to determine whether to permanently ban Trump or not.

00:06:07.000 Okay, so the left's perspective is that the big problem with social media is that too much information is disseminated via social media.

00:06:13.000 The right's perspective is that too little information is disseminated via social media.

00:06:18.000 The right would prefer that there be a broader range of viewpoints that are allowed on social media.

00:06:23.000 And the left would prefer, as always, that only their viewpoint be allowed on social media.

00:06:28.000 And they have basically cudgeled and bullied all of these companies into mirroring that perspective.

00:06:32.000 Because if you look back at the history of social media, if you look back at the statements made by places like Twitter and Facebook, when they first started, their main mandate was, we are going to allow more people to speak.

00:06:42.000 And then it became, we are going to better the conversation.

00:06:44.000 And by bettering the conversation, they meant that they were going to Work on what you could see.

00:06:49.000 They were going to make you a better person because your betters in Silicon Valley were going to determine what you could and could not see.

00:06:55.000 And so this is what you see from the left today in the aftermath of the news that Facebook is going to maintain that ban on Trump.

00:07:02.000 The White House came out.

00:07:03.000 I mean, this is, it's truly dystopian stuff.

00:07:05.000 The White House came out and they said, you know what?

00:07:08.000 Big tech companies should go even further.

00:07:09.000 They need to stop the misinformation.

00:07:11.000 Now, this is really dangerous because the White House, you may have noticed, is a government agency.

00:07:15.000 This is the executive branch of the most powerful government in world history.

00:07:18.000 And the executive branch is saying, we want all of these social media companies who are the chief mechanism by which Information is now disseminated.

00:07:26.000 We want them actively to crack down on things we deem misinformation.

00:07:31.000 Now, it's important to note here that the left has made a move linguistically from disinformation to misinformation.

00:07:36.000 You remember just a few years ago, 2016, there was a lot of talk about Russian disinformation.

00:07:42.000 Well, the term disinformation has a specific meaning.

00:07:44.000 Disinformation means a foreign government is putting out false information in order to bamboozle or hoodwink Americans and pervert the political process.

00:07:51.000 That's what disinformation is.

00:07:53.000 The United States engages in disinformation campaigns against foreign regimes too, right?

00:07:56.000 This is just something that happens in international politics.

00:07:59.000 And there's certainly a strong case to be made that if Facebook knows that the Russians are disseminating disinformation, that they should shut that down.

00:08:06.000 It's a foreign government attempting to affect American elections, for example.

00:08:09.000 But there's a difference between disinformation and misinformation.

00:08:12.000 By shifting one letter and conflating the two, now you can just declare anything you don't like misinformation.

00:08:17.000 So Hunter Biden's story?

00:08:18.000 Maybe it's misinformation.

00:08:20.000 And this is the way that the White House views this sort of stuff.

00:08:23.000 Pointing out that Joe Biden's agenda is extraordinarily radical.

00:08:27.000 Well, that's misinformation.

00:08:28.000 We can't allow that sort of misinformation to thrive.

00:08:31.000 Even when people say things from an American perspective that are not true.

00:08:35.000 If Donald Trump says that voter fraud and irregularity 100% decided the election, we won in Atlanta, that kind of stuff.

00:08:40.000 Even if that's not true, to suggest that that is akin to a Russian source promoting active disinformation is not right.

00:08:46.000 I mean, Donald Trump does have a First Amendment right to say things that are objectively untrue, that is not banned by the First Amendment.

00:08:55.000 You do have the right in the United States to say things that, in your own viewpoint, you think are true, even if they are not true.

00:09:01.000 And that holds true on both sides.

00:09:02.000 I've never called for Ibram X. Kendi, who's a grifter par excellence, to be banned from social media, even though he routinely says things that are wildly untrue, because that's fascistic.

00:09:11.000 You don't get to use the means of the government in order to push that.

00:09:14.000 So what they've done is, instead, they've shifted over the onus to these corporations.

00:09:19.000 They're working hand-in-glove with these corporations, and they're basically saying to the corporations, we'll leave you alone.

00:09:23.000 You can have your monopoly.

00:09:25.000 In fact, we will promote your monopoly so long as you do exactly what we want.

00:09:29.000 They basically turned these corporations into agencies of the federal government and then used those corporations in order to shut down the First Amendment in a way they could not do directly.

00:09:39.000 If the federal government were to legislate that information they don't like, Had to be shut down by social media?

00:09:44.000 That would be illegal.

00:09:45.000 If the federal government threatens Facebook that they are going to regulate them in some way, if Facebook does not do that, then the claim is that's not illegal, that's just good governance.

00:09:54.000 So here's Jen Psaki from the White House saying we hope that they go further in fighting misinformation.

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00:11:46.000 So you have Jen Psaki saying that it's the responsibility of these big tech companies to quote-unquote stop misinformation.

00:11:52.000 Number one, that's just not true.

00:11:54.000 It's not true.

00:11:55.000 These big tech companies are platforms.

00:11:57.000 The whole point of them is that it is not their job to police what's in the comments.

00:12:01.000 Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act was specifically designed to protect companies so that those companies would not be held liable legally.

00:12:10.000 So now they're just reversing this.

00:12:12.000 Right now they're going to say that Facebook ought to be held responsible for stuff that a third party posts on Facebook, which completely defeats the purpose of open threads.

00:12:19.000 It defeats the purpose of comment sections.

00:12:21.000 It defeats the purpose of YouTube and Twitter and Facebook.

00:12:24.000 It destroys them wholesale.

00:12:25.000 If they are responsible for the material that appears on their platforms, Then this means that they are effectively the same as the New York Times or the Daily Wire.

00:12:32.000 They're just editorial sites.

00:12:34.000 Number two, when she says that we want them to crack down on misinformation with regard to COVID and elections, let's just note here that the Biden administration has routinely lied about both COVID and elections.

00:12:34.000 That's number one.

00:12:44.000 The Biden administration has suggested over and over and over again that Georgia's new voter laws are Jim Crow.

00:12:49.000 That is an overt lie. 0.94

00:12:50.000 It is an abject, disgusting, overt lie.

00:12:53.000 Those laws are in many ways more permissive with regard to voting than, for example, New York or New Jersey. 0.93

00:12:59.000 There's no one who has a shred of sanity who believes that those laws look anything like Jim Crow.

00:13:04.000 The great lie the Democrats have been promoting, that voter suppression has been deciding elections, it is a lie.

00:13:09.000 But they don't want that lie shut down.

00:13:10.000 They want that lie promulgated. 0.91

00:13:11.000 They want that lie promoted. 0.98

00:13:13.000 They want it trumpeted from the highest rooftop so they can pretend to black Americans that the GOP is trying to shut down their rights. 0.61

00:13:19.000 So those sorts of lies they want promoted.

00:13:21.000 It just depends on the misinformation.

00:13:23.000 And when it comes to COVID, I can't think of a bigger purveyor of COVID misinformation than this administration. 0.99

00:13:27.000 They keep just saying stupid crap that makes no sense about masking and outdoor standards and the efficacy of the vaccines. 1.00

00:13:33.000 It's just ridiculous on every level. 1.00

00:13:35.000 But this is the going push by the folks on the left.

00:13:40.000 The going push is shut down dissemination of information.

00:13:42.000 It's what they want.

00:13:44.000 This is authoritarian stuff.

00:13:46.000 I have a new book coming out called The Authoritarian Moment.

00:13:48.000 It comes out in July.

00:13:49.000 One of the things that I discuss is one of the reasons that the left wants to keep focusing on January 6th, because January 6th was really terrible.

00:13:55.000 It was a terrible, terrible event for the country.

00:13:58.000 But the reason they want to keep their focus on January 6th is to overlook the fact that the reaction to January 6th on the left is significantly more authoritarian than the actual effect of January 6th.

00:14:10.000 On January 6th, a bunch of authoritarians went in and tried to overturn the legitimate results of an election.

00:14:14.000 That's true. 0.99

00:14:15.000 And it was like several hundred idiots, and then they were immediately cleared out, and then a bunch of Republicans certified the election. 1.00

00:14:21.000 It was over. 0.99

00:14:22.000 The major institutions in American life, the biggest, most powerful institutions in American life, are attempting to destroy your ability to disseminate information, to see information.

00:14:32.000 They are attempting to destroy your ability to raise your child as you see fit.

00:14:35.000 They are looking to destroy your business if you fail to comply with their woke standards.

00:14:40.000 The authoritarian movement in the United States is not chiefly from the right.

00:14:43.000 This doesn't mean there aren't authoritarians on the right.

00:14:45.000 There are.

00:14:46.000 But the authoritarian movement in the United States, the dangerous authoritarianism that we experience in everyday life and at every level of American society is coming from the institutional heads inside blue America.

00:14:57.000 Like, I don't know what to say about the fact that Hillary Clinton, who is Secretary of State and Senator from New York and nearly the President of the United States, she's out there saying, yeah, yeah, I know this is great.

00:15:05.000 Big Tech needs to shut down Trump or we should shut down Big Tech.

00:15:09.000 Hey, this is just authoritarian stuff.

00:15:12.000 There must be a reckoning by the tech companies for the role that they play in undermining the information ecosystem that is absolutely essential for the functioning of any democracy.

00:15:27.000 And it's going to be up to governments, and I would even hope some global rules, but let's start with governments, to try to rein in the disinformation on the social media platforms First of all, that should scare the living hell out of you.

00:15:42.000 When Hillary Clinton and Democrats start talking about global governance, what, do we want Zimbabwe's input on how information gets disseminated?

00:15:49.000 This is one of the big problems for Facebook.

00:15:51.000 Facebook is a global company.

00:15:52.000 What they should be doing is promulgating First Amendment American standards.

00:15:55.000 They are not.

00:15:56.000 They're seeking explicitly to have other governments regulate them because they don't know what to do, because otherwise they're held liable in places like Germany for speech they're not held liable for in places like the United States.

00:16:05.000 So when you say, when Hillary Clinton says, we need an international global standard on free speech, Understand that's what we're talking about here.

00:16:11.000 The idea that government's job is to rein in the dissemination of information is precisely the reverse of the First Amendment.

00:16:17.000 It is precisely the opposite of the First Amendment.

00:16:19.000 And the fact that they've gotten all these social media companies to basically do this stuff voluntarily under threat just demonstrates that essentially they're using these major corporations as their agents.

00:16:29.000 We are now operating not in a free market capitalist America with regard to social media.

00:16:33.000 We are operating in a corporatist America with regard to social media where they are given special privileges by the government and then the government tells them all you have to do is implement standards that we like about information that we don't like.

00:16:45.000 Adam Schiff, one of the great purveyors of misinformation for years.

00:16:48.000 I mean, this douchebag was on MSNBC every single day talking about how the other shoe was going to drop. 0.99

00:16:53.000 It was going to come out that Trump was was actually peeing on Russian prostitutes and they were peeing on him. 1.00

00:16:58.000 And all of this was it was all Russian collusion. 0.98

00:17:00.000 The evidence would show up sooner or later.

00:17:02.000 Here is Adam Schiff saying that he hopes that the ban from Facebook is permanent on Trump.

00:17:07.000 Of course he does.

00:17:08.000 The president here is continuing to go out and push the big lie about the election, continuing, I think, to endanger our democracy by doing that.

00:17:18.000 And so he continues to make the case that he would violate the policies if they readmitted him.

00:17:25.000 And I think, frankly, Pathologically, he's incapable of changing.

00:17:29.000 So this is a temporary ban.

00:17:31.000 It will likely be, if we're fortunate, a permanent ban, because the president is not going to stop the lies about the last election or lies about the next one.

00:17:41.000 He will incite people.

00:17:43.000 I swear, I don't want to hear about authoritarianism from a group of people who are using their perch in government to attempt to literally stop a political opponent from being able to speak.

00:17:50.000 I mean, that is the essence of authoritarianism.

00:17:53.000 What you're watching right now from the White House, from Congress, from Hillary Clinton, from this whole cadre of the mainstream establishment left, is we want to use the methods of informational dissemination to shut down our political opponents.

00:18:06.000 We want to threaten them to do it.

00:18:08.000 We're gonna threaten these companies in order to make that happen and give them special privileges and pat them on the head if they're good little boys and girls.

00:18:14.000 It's insanity.

00:18:15.000 But we're told that the authoritarianism is on the right? 0.59

00:18:18.000 The hell it is.

00:18:18.000 By the way, Not to be self-serving here, but the reality is this is one of the reasons why you should go subscribe to the services that you love right now, because at any moment, this entire tsunami of authoritarianism nonsense could be pushed against anybody, including places you like.

00:18:32.000 It could be pushed against Daily Wire.

00:18:33.000 It could be pushed against my show.

00:18:34.000 Go subscribe right now over at Daily Wire, because again, you want to protect the content that you love, because I don't trust these people, do you?

00:18:41.000 I don't trust these tech companies are gonna stand up to the overwhelming tsunami of authoritarian nonsense being pushed by the establishment left.

00:18:48.000 This is the establishment left.

00:18:49.000 It's amazing how fast the liberal movement caved in the United States to this insane, censorious left.

00:18:57.000 How many liberals are left to stand up to this?

00:18:59.000 How many liberals still stand for the original principles like the ACLU?

00:19:04.000 How many people still believe?

00:19:06.000 I remember in the 90s, people used to say, I'm left all the time.

00:19:08.000 This was their great civil liberties moment.

00:19:12.000 They would say things like, I may not agree with you, but I will defend to the death your right to say what you want to say.

00:19:18.000 You remember dissent is the height of patriotism.

00:19:20.000 You remember this during the Iraq war?

00:19:22.000 No longer.

00:19:23.000 Now, according to the establishment left, you disagree with us and we will find a way to shut you down.

00:19:28.000 Including, by the way, the sitting president of the United States at the time.

00:19:30.000 We will find a way to stop you from speaking.

00:19:34.000 And it would be one thing if they had any sort of articulable standard that is consistently applied, but there is no articulable standard that's consistently applied.

00:19:40.000 The Biden administration routinely lies.

00:19:42.000 The Biden administration routinely says things that are untrue.

00:19:45.000 Democrats, members of the media, have openly defended acts of violence depending on who is committing the act of violence.

00:19:51.000 None of them have been banned.

00:19:53.000 So what this really is, is just about power.

00:19:55.000 It's so funny, the entire deconstructionist movement, the sort of philosophical deconstructionist movement, is about the idea that there are no centralizing principles, everything is just a power game.

00:20:03.000 That when people talk about freedom and equality, when people talk about the principles of the Declaration of Independence, they're lying.

00:20:09.000 That really all that was, was a guise for power.

00:20:11.000 It's all just a facade.

00:20:12.000 It's a way for rich white men to cram down their own version of the system. 0.83

00:20:16.000 It's all projection.

00:20:17.000 Deconstructionism, from the establishment left, is just projection.

00:20:21.000 Because for them, there are no universal principles.

00:20:24.000 It is just about power.

00:20:25.000 There are no universal principles that apply to your rights.

00:20:27.000 There are no universal principles that apply to the level of misinformation that can be disseminated.

00:20:32.000 There's nothing consistent here.

00:20:33.000 It is just about what they can get away with and what kind of power they can use in order to apply pressure.

00:20:38.000 That's all.

00:20:39.000 And that's authoritarian.

00:20:40.000 There's no other word for it.

00:20:42.000 And what we are watching right now, again, this is not just a pitch for my book, but it is a pitch for my book.

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00:20:50.000 They have renormalized America's institutions in order to silence everyone they disagree with, and they are doing it with big tech right now.

00:20:57.000 And so for people on the right who are like, yeah, there's a wide right-left agreement that we need to shut down big tech.

00:21:03.000 No, they disagree for completely different, They don't like big tech for completely different reasons.

00:21:08.000 The right wants big tech to consistently apply any standard, hopefully a very broad free speech standard.

00:21:13.000 The left wants to simply run these companies.

00:21:16.000 The left simply wants to make sure that you cannot speak, that you cannot share, that you are not allowed to have organic reach with the stories that you push, that you never see the information they don't want you to see.

00:21:25.000 The most obvious example being that Hunter Biden story, the New York Post Twitter account shut down a month before the election because of a true Hunter Biden story?

00:21:34.000 Facebook shutting it down?

00:21:36.000 Preventing the dissemination of even the link?

00:21:38.000 You couldn't even link to it?

00:21:40.000 And you watch, this is the next move.

00:21:41.000 What you will see is that now that Donald Trump has started his quasi-blog on his page, the next move by Twitter and Facebook will be, you are not allowed to tweet any link from that blog.

00:21:51.000 Because again, this is not about freedom.

00:21:53.000 It is not about protecting democracy. 0.68

00:21:54.000 These folks don't give a damn about democracy. 0.99

00:21:56.000 Are you kidding me?

00:21:57.000 They want to completely rewrite the rules of the game.

00:21:59.000 They want to completely federalize every election procedure in the United States.

00:22:03.000 They want to make ballot harvesting legal.

00:22:05.000 They want to make sure that voter ID cannot be put into law.

00:22:08.000 And then they want to cram a bunch of seats into the Senate in undemocratic fashion in order to stack the system in favor of their own political priorities.

00:22:17.000 They don't give a damn about democracy or the procedures of the Constitution.

00:22:21.000 It's all just a power game.

00:22:22.000 In the end, it's all about power for the establishment left.

00:22:25.000 There are no principles.

00:22:27.000 If you're a believer that there are principles from the same people who are saying that misinformation has to be shut down on the internet, but we can lie as much as we want, I don't know what to tell you.

00:22:35.000 They're unprincipled.

00:22:36.000 It is just power.

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00:24:04.000 Alrighty, so.

00:24:05.000 When it comes to dissemination of misinformation for political purposes, this White House has no problem doing that.

00:24:12.000 Not in the slightest.

00:24:14.000 So, the entire administration approach to COVID and vaccines and masking is absurd.

00:24:20.000 It's absurd on its face.

00:24:21.000 We have now run into what people are calling the demand wall with regard to vaccination.

00:24:25.000 What that means is that there's way more supply than demand.

00:24:29.000 There's a lot of supply.

00:24:30.000 The supply was ramped up by Trump.

00:24:32.000 Biden continued that.

00:24:33.000 Biden is the luckiest man ever to be elected president, not only because he's not sentient, but also because he inherited an entire vaccination program, an entire rollout program, and then he gets credit for it.

00:24:43.000 Okay, so in any case, A huge number of Americans have already been vaccinated.

00:24:47.000 Right now, we are going from like 3 million vaccinations a day down to like 1 million.

00:24:50.000 Why?

00:24:51.000 Well, number one, the people who wanted it the most already went and got it.

00:24:53.000 And number two, they're now running into what's called the demand wall.

00:24:56.000 One of the reasons for the demand wall, the reason that people are not out there clamoring for the vaccine, is because if you are vaccine hesitant, there is no incentive being promoted by this administration to get the vaccine.

00:25:06.000 Like, none.

00:25:07.000 They're not telling you you can go back to regular life, which you can, scientifically speaking.

00:25:12.000 They're not telling you that after you get that second vaccine dose and you're two weeks out, you can unmask.

00:25:16.000 Which, again, the data support that you can do this.

00:25:20.000 I name a single study, one study, that's all I ask.

00:25:23.000 One study demonstrating that the vaccinated are passing this virus in any significant numbers.

00:25:29.000 There are no studies to support that.

00:25:30.000 I mean, zero.

00:25:32.000 And the administration admits this, by the way.

00:25:34.000 The administration will openly admit that they're just doing this mainly out of a sense of virtue signaling.

00:25:40.000 But they continue to promote it anyway. 0.89

00:25:42.000 So they're promoting all sorts of just untruth and garbage about their standards. 0.94

00:25:47.000 Okay, so their standards with regard to, for example, summer camps are absurd. 0.98

00:25:51.000 They're absurd on their face.

00:25:53.000 Philip Klein writes for the National Review. 0.98

00:25:56.000 So the standards themselves are just ridiculous. 0.85

00:25:59.000 The standards are like, kids have to wear masks outdoors, so you don't have to wear a mask outdoors, but only if you're vaccinated, which is ridiculous. 0.68

00:26:07.000 There's no reason to be wearing a mask outdoors if you're distanced from other people.

00:26:11.000 And kids, masking outdoors is absurd in the first place.

00:26:15.000 Kids are not passing this in vast numbers.

00:26:17.000 Kids are not affected, as a general rule, harshly by COVID.

00:26:21.000 The number of kids who have died from COVID is still under 300 in a nation of 330 million people.

00:26:27.000 So Anthony Fauci, for example, was asked about the summer camp standards, and he can't even defend it.

00:26:31.000 I mean, it doesn't even make any sense.

00:26:33.000 Here's Anthony Fauci.

00:26:34.000 Again, how this guy became the most trusted doctor in America, or second most trusted after Dr. Joe Biden, the greatest of all doctors, is beyond me, because he has conflicted himself 1,000 times.

00:26:43.000 He has lied about things.

00:26:44.000 He's openly admitted that he has lied about things.

00:26:46.000 He's terrible at his job.

00:26:47.000 He needs to go.

00:26:48.000 But here he is, promulgating standards on summer camps that make no sense at all.

00:26:52.000 You know, I wouldn't call them excessive, Savannah, but they certainly are conservative.

00:26:58.000 And I think what you're going to start to see is really in real time, continually re-evaluating that for its practicality.

00:27:06.000 Because you're right, people look at that and they say, Well, is that being a little bit too far right now?

00:27:12.000 Yeah, because aren't we supposed to be... I mean, we've been told, people have been preaching for a year, follow the science.

00:27:17.000 The science doesn't suggest those CDC guidelines are too sensible for little kids outside in 90 degree heat running around with masks.

00:27:26.000 Yes, you've asked me that question a couple of times before.

00:27:29.000 But do it.

00:27:33.000 I'm sorry, this is a joke.

00:27:34.000 It's a joke.

00:27:34.000 Even Fauci can't offend it.

00:27:36.000 Right?

00:27:36.000 These are absurd guidelines.

00:27:38.000 They say vaccinated adults and children have to wear masks outdoors unless they are eating, drinking, or swimming. 0.97

00:27:44.000 It's just, it's ridiculous. 0.99

00:27:45.000 It's ridiculous on its face. 0.98

00:27:46.000 And Fauci has asked about it. 0.97

00:27:47.000 He has no answer for it.

00:27:48.000 He laughs it off.

00:27:50.000 Right, you still have Rochelle Walensky of the CDC, who again, should also be fired. 0.99

00:27:52.000 Terrible at her job.

00:27:54.000 Rochelle Walensky, you remember just a few weeks ago, she's saying, I have a feeling of impending doom.

00:27:57.000 It feels in my, in my heart, like there's, like doom is coming.

00:28:00.000 And I said at the time, there's no evidence doom is coming.

00:28:02.000 Like give me some scientific data that doom is coming.

00:28:04.000 Why the hell do I care about Rochelle Walensky's interior feelings?

00:28:07.000 Oh my God, she feels like doom is coming.

00:28:09.000 Yeah, so did Nostradamus.

00:28:10.000 It's been a while.

00:28:12.000 But again, the idea that she is, this administration promulgates lies about COVID.

00:28:17.000 Lies about COVID.

00:28:19.000 Here she is saying that heavily breathing kids playing soccer should mask outside.

00:28:22.000 I'm sorry, this is absurd.

00:28:25.000 You know, I think not all outside is the same.

00:28:28.000 So outside playing tennis, outside swimming, all of those things where you're far apart from one another.

00:28:34.000 If you have a group of 10-year-olds crowded trying to get over a soccer ball, and they're all breathing heavily, I think you need to wear a mask.

00:28:41.000 Because yes, there's decreased infection risk outside, but if you're all breathing heavily on top of a singular soccer ball, that has the potential.

00:28:50.000 And we've seen a lot of outbreaks associated with youth sports.

00:28:53.000 These are the same people who said during the entire George Floyd summer that dancing outside and twerking in large groups was totally fine.

00:29:02.000 And remember, in Arlington, Texas, they just had opening day.

00:29:05.000 40,000 people were crammed into a stadium outdoors.

00:29:08.000 No outbreak.

00:29:09.000 None.

00:29:11.000 Okay, the data to support these standards are non-existent.

00:29:13.000 Like, there are no data to support the standards, which is why Rochelle Walensky is asked about the standards, and she can't even explain them.

00:29:18.000 She was asked on CNN.

00:29:18.000 Right?

00:29:20.000 Good for CNN.

00:29:21.000 She was asked, you know, why are vaccinated people being told they need a mask inside?

00:29:25.000 Like, they're fine.

00:29:26.000 We have over 87 million people in the United States who have been double-vaxxed at this point, or single-vaxxed with Johnson & Johnson.

00:29:33.000 And the grand number of people, grand total number of people, last I checked, which was like three days ago, who had died of COVID after being fully vaxxed was 88.

00:29:40.000 In other words, your chances of dying from COVID after being vaxxed are like one in a million.

00:29:45.000 Literally one in a million.

00:29:47.000 So Walensky is asked, why are you telling vaxxed people to mask inside?

00:29:50.000 She has no answer to this because there is no reason.

00:29:52.000 This isn't the science. 0.99

00:29:53.000 This is just a bunch of horseshit. 0.90

00:29:57.000 We're asking that people who are vaccinated remain in masks when they're indoors. 0.96

00:30:02.000 Indoors? 1.00

00:30:03.000 When they're indoors.

00:30:04.000 But if I'm working with everyone in my office is also vaccinated, why?

00:30:12.000 So I was going to say, indoors and really in public settings.

00:30:15.000 So, you know, in our private settings guidance, we say if you know for certain that everyone around you has been vaccinated, they're not at risk of, they have no high-risk people in their households, then we say in those settings that you could take off your mask.

00:30:28.000 Okay, so she can't even answer the question.

00:30:30.000 And by the way, let's be real about this.

00:30:32.000 If you're vaccinated and you are in a room with a person who has COVID, you will be fine.

00:30:37.000 The data know this.

00:30:38.000 The whole purpose of the COVID vaccine is to make you fine.

00:30:42.000 The reality is, these vaccines are extraordinarily effective.

00:30:46.000 Like, insanely effective.

00:30:47.000 And yet you have this entire administration downplaying the efficacy of the vaccines.

00:30:50.000 By the way, you know who says that if you're sitting in a room with a person with COVID and you have the vaccine, you're fine?

00:30:55.000 The CDC!

00:30:56.000 Because none of their standards make any sense.

00:30:57.000 They say that if you are in a room, unmasked, with a person with COVID, and you have had the vaccines, you don't have to quarantine unless you become symptomatic.

00:31:07.000 So they're not worried about you asymptomatically passing this thing.

00:31:10.000 They're just lying to you.

00:31:12.000 Okay, but don't worry.

00:31:13.000 They're gonna be the police on misinformation. 1.00

00:31:17.000 And the arrogance with which they spout this crap is just insane. 0.99

00:31:20.000 Kamala Harris, the co-president of the United States, she was asked about Ron DeSantis. 0.99

00:31:24.000 So Ron DeSantis, who actually analyzes the data, and you know, has presided over the great success story in America.

00:31:29.000 It really is.

00:31:30.000 You know, when people, it's amazing to me, people be like, you know, California and Florida, they have very similar death rates and they took opposite views.

00:31:35.000 They don't have similar death rates because the thing you have to remember is that Florida has the second oldest population in America after Maine.

00:31:42.000 And Maine has like seven people and a beaver.

00:31:45.000 Okay, Florida has 21 million people.

00:31:48.000 It has by far the oldest population in America.

00:31:51.000 California has like the third youngest population in America.

00:31:54.000 So if you have two states, one of which has a very young population and one of which has a very old population and their deaths per million ratio is the same, you know what that means?

00:32:03.000 It means the person who ran the old population state did a fantastic job.

00:32:07.000 But still, this administration is going to claim that Ron DeSantis doesn't know what he's doing, because Ron DeSantis put out an order that there are no more locally justified mask mandates.

00:32:15.000 He said if you're a business and you want to have a mask mandate, that's your problem, you're a private business, you can do what you want, but no local mask mandate.

00:32:22.000 Correct!

00:32:22.000 Because there's no data to support local mask mandates at this point in time in Florida.

00:32:26.000 But here's Kamala Harris saying, we have to follow the experts.

00:32:28.000 Let's follow the experts.

00:32:31.000 Governor DeSantis in Florida has rolled back the ability of cities and local government to enforce their own COVID restrictions.

00:32:39.000 Do you believe that that is a mistake?

00:32:41.000 Is that too premature at this point of the pandemic?

00:32:43.000 I strongly believe that whatever rules, protocols, and procedures are put in place must be guided by the public health experts, period.

00:32:53.000 Okay, so, again, follow the public health experts.

00:32:55.000 So, let me show you what Kamala Harris does to follow the public health experts. 1.00

00:32:58.000 Yesterday, she was walking to her car with her husband, Douglas Emhoff, and they had this very romantic moment.

00:33:06.000 They're walking, they're walking, and as they're about to part, they lean forward, they're both masked, and they kiss through the mask.

00:33:13.000 What is this?

00:33:14.000 Eyes wide shut?

00:33:16.000 And what the hell is that?

00:33:18.000 Is that what the, is that what the CDC, is that what the health experts are saying?

00:33:21.000 That you kiss your spouse, you have to wear a mask also?

00:33:24.000 It's like that scene from Naked Gun where they're completely covered top to bottom in condoms and making out.

00:33:28.000 Like, what in the world is this?

00:33:30.000 These are our health experts?

00:33:32.000 These are the people you're supposed to trust about COVID misinformation?

00:33:34.000 Okay, there's a reality to why they're, again, there's no science to this. 0.96

00:33:38.000 It's ridiculous. 0.55

00:33:39.000 I'm sorry. 0.86

00:33:39.000 This is ridiculous. 0.86

00:33:40.000 What? 0.96

00:33:41.000 There's no science to suggest that when you kiss your spouse, you're supposed to both be wearing masks outdoors.

00:33:46.000 The hell?

00:33:47.000 What? 0.94

00:33:48.000 What?

00:33:48.000 Then you have Mayor Muriel Bowser of D.C.

00:33:51.000 who has turned into John Lithgow from Footloose.

00:33:53.000 She is now telling people there will be no dancing because twerking might lead to dancing. 1.00

00:33:59.000 Like, what?

00:34:01.000 Here's Muriel Bowser explaining.

00:34:03.000 Even after mass vaccination of the D.C.

00:34:05.000 population, she may not green light dancing at weddings. 0.79

00:34:08.000 She's like, you should just be glad we allow you to have weddings in Washington, D.C. 0.99

00:34:12.000 Authoritarian crap. 0.99

00:34:13.000 Here she is. 1.00

00:34:14.000 Mayor, just is there any way that you would reconsider with masks on and say a card that shows fully vaccinated that you'd allow dancing?

00:34:25.000 We're absolutely considering opening more activity as our case rates go down and our vaccination rates go up.

00:34:33.000 And that's in our hotels and that's in our other venues.

00:34:38.000 So banning the dancing.

00:34:39.000 The Democratic Party, they've actually become the Puritans. 0.92

00:34:42.000 They are masked Puritans at this point.

00:34:43.000 There's a reason for this.

00:34:44.000 The reason for this is not just because of their simple paranoia about the virus, although this has become a sort of virtue signaling lifestyle choice for a lot of Democrats at this point.

00:34:51.000 It's not about the health.

00:34:52.000 It's not about preventing the spread of COVID.

00:34:54.000 It's about I'm a better person than you because I wear a mask.

00:34:56.000 Just like everything else in American life, this is broken down into virtue signaling horse nonsense. 0.64

00:35:00.000 OK, so in a second, I'll explain what really is backing this for the political actors and not for the common everyday Democrat who's decided they're better than you because they're wearing triple masks and a bag around their head with duct tape around their neck for the rest of time.

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00:38:26.000 Alrighty, so what is the actual agenda here?

00:38:28.000 The actual agenda, of course, is to grow the government.

00:38:30.000 If you can continue to promote the idea that America is in a state of crisis and that everybody has to mask up and that nobody's going back to work, then you can continue to promote these giant government programs.

00:38:41.000 So Democrats right now are continuing to promote the idea of a national eviction moratorium.

00:38:45.000 Okay, here's the deal.

00:38:47.000 America's unemployment rate is down back to like 6%.

00:38:49.000 We are adding jobs hand over foot.

00:38:52.000 The only reason, hand over fist, the only reason why we have not added more jobs is because we have paid people to stay home.

00:38:59.000 Right now, small businesses are having trouble getting people to actually come in and work because there are so many people who are making more money by being on unemployment.

00:39:09.000 But Democrats don't want to accept that we are back in an upward economic swing.

00:39:12.000 Number one, because they want to take credit for it with stimulus that has not yet even gone out.

00:39:16.000 And number two, because they want to promote the idea that the pandemic continues so they can continue to ram through trillions upon trillions of dollars in spending.

00:39:25.000 So, let's be real about this in the first place.

00:39:27.000 The federal government did not have the ability to simply declare via executive fiat an eviction moratorium.

00:39:32.000 The CDC does not have the power to simply declare across the nation.

00:39:35.000 The Center for Disease Control, or the Center for Rent?

00:39:38.000 Like, where's the empowering legislation that allows the CDC to decide that you no longer have to pay rent?

00:39:43.000 And by the way, who exactly compensates the landlords?

00:39:45.000 You know, you talk about these housing shortages in America's major cities.

00:39:48.000 It turns out, when you deprive landlords of rent for like a year, The predictable response is, I'm not going to build any more buildings and rent them out.

00:39:56.000 You end up with more of a shortage, like rent control.

00:39:58.000 The more you prevent the free market from having its way, the more you prevent supply from meeting demand.

00:40:04.000 Okay, in any case, a federal judge in Washington, D.C.

00:40:06.000 on Wednesday, according to the Washington Post, ruled that the Center for Disease Control and Prevention overstepped its legal authority by issuing a nationwide eviction moratorium, a ruling that could affect millions of struggling Americans.

00:40:16.000 Well, yeah, but that's not... Like, if Congress wants to pass an eviction moratorium, they can go ahead and try.

00:40:22.000 First of all, I think that's probably unconstitutional.

00:40:24.000 It violates the...

00:40:25.000 Freedom of contract that is inherent in freedom of association in the United States.

00:40:29.000 But since we long ago gave up on anything like limited government, I suppose that you could try to pass that via Congress.

00:40:35.000 The idea that the CDC unilaterally gets to decide that you don't have to pay your rent anymore is an absurdity on its face.

00:40:41.000 The order says it is the role of the political branches and not the courts to assess the merits of policy measures designed to combat the spread of disease, even during a global pandemic.

00:40:49.000 The question for the court is a narrow one.

00:40:50.000 Does the Public Health Service Act grant the CDC the legal authority to impose a nationwide eviction moratorium?

00:40:55.000 It does not.

00:40:56.000 The Biden administration says it will appeal the decision.

00:40:59.000 So here's the thing.

00:41:00.000 Why?

00:41:00.000 We're at the end of the pandemic.

00:41:02.000 What are you appealing?

00:41:04.000 The ruling does not affect state or local eviction moratoriums.

00:41:06.000 In Washington, D.C., for example, the city government's ban on all evictions remains in place.

00:41:11.000 Landlords and property owners have consistently challenged the CDC order, arguing the policy sets an undue financial burden on business owners.

00:41:17.000 Yeah, you think?

00:41:18.000 It turns out that if you run an apartment complex and you can't evict anybody for not paying their bills, you're the one who ends up footing the bill for that.

00:41:25.000 And they want to continue this, like indefinitely.

00:41:27.000 They want to continue these eviction moratoriums.

00:41:30.000 The question at this point is not even the legal authority to do this.

00:41:33.000 The question at this point is, why are you even pushing eviction moratoriums when we are at the end of the pandemic?

00:41:38.000 And the answer is, they want a forever pandemic.

00:41:41.000 Folks on the Democratic side of the aisle want a forever pandemic because every crisis is an opportunity.

00:41:47.000 So we're gonna promote bad scientific standards with regard to COVID.

00:41:52.000 We are going to promote endless spending because COVID is still a crisis.

00:41:58.000 This is why you have the entire Democratic Party Still promoting the idea that we need to spend tons and tons and tons of money on infrastructure Okay, let's be straight about this The United States does not have a major infrastructure problem The Brookings Institute says and has been saying for years the United States our infrastructure is actually in pretty good shape This ain't about infrastructure. It's about everything if you can call it infrastructure. It becomes infrastructure Here is co-president Harris yesterday suggesting that infrastructure is childcare I'd like to hear from each of you as though you are talking to the people in Washington DC

00:42:30.000 To explain Why childcare is part of infrastructure And let me just tell you the way I define infrastructure, one of my definitions, is the things you just need to get where you need to go.

00:42:45.000 So let's talk about why childcare is a part of that.

00:42:52.000 I define infrastructure as anything I want, anytime I want it.

00:42:56.000 So let's talk about why Free ice cream is infrastructure. 0.91

00:43:01.000 This is why they need the pandemic, because otherwise everybody would look at this and go, are you insane?

00:43:06.000 Healthcare is not infrastructure.

00:43:07.000 You want to do something on healthcare?

00:43:08.000 Try it.

00:43:09.000 You want to call it infrastructure? 1.00

00:43:10.000 You're out of your damn mind. 1.00

00:43:12.000 But the entire Democratic Party is into this because, of course, they don't care about deficits. 1.00

00:43:16.000 Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez, she's out there, this genius, this economic genius, Democrat, Twitch, she says, You know, we keep worrying about deficits.

00:43:25.000 Why are we even worrying about deficits?

00:43:26.000 I mean, I've never had to actually meet a payroll, but sure, I know how to spend your money.

00:43:31.000 I don't think that the deficit is the most important thing upon which we should be hinging our infrastructure and jobs plan on.

00:43:41.000 I think it's not the deficit.

00:43:44.000 It's things like employment.

00:43:46.000 It's things like our poverty rate in the United States, or rather, unemployment as well.

00:43:54.000 That's a long way of saying I don't want to pay for anything because I don't need to pay for anything because I've never paid for anything.

00:44:10.000 That's a really easy way of doing that.

00:44:12.000 Really well done right there.

00:44:13.000 Joe Biden also defending his massive spending plans in his typically incoherent fashion.

00:44:19.000 Everything I'm proposing that be done to generate economic growth, employment, and put us in a position where we can out-compete any other country in the world with research and development and moving ahead.

00:44:39.000 I pay for it.

00:44:41.000 We talk about, I love we talk about how this is going to cost so much money, I'm not paying for it.

00:44:47.000 I mean, he's a joke.

00:44:49.000 By the way, he says he's pushing higher taxes. 0.81

00:44:50.000 The language he uses with regard to higher taxes is so patently crazy.

00:44:54.000 And he says things like, First of all, talk to Bernie.

00:45:01.000 He seems to like that lake house an awful lot.

00:45:03.000 You seem to like your multiple houses an awful lot, Mr. President.

00:45:07.000 But beyond that, that's not the question.

00:45:09.000 The question is whether you confiscate wealth from the people who have typically created jobs and hand it to a bunch of doofy over at the federal government to decide how exactly to disseminate that wealth in the most inefficient possible fashion, or whether you allow the economy to grow.

00:45:23.000 But for him, it's all about confiscation of wealth.

00:45:25.000 The real motivating factor here is that Joe Biden wants to go down in history as not an inconsequential figure.

00:45:30.000 That's all.

00:45:31.000 Joe Biden knows he's a one-term guy.

00:45:32.000 He's clearly a one-term guy.

00:45:34.000 And because he's a one-term guy, he wants to just push everything through right now.

00:45:38.000 And he's got the pandemic to bank on.

00:45:40.000 And that pandemic is on the wane.

00:45:41.000 And it's pretty much at the end of it.

00:45:43.000 I mean, we all know this.

00:45:45.000 Contra Anthony Fauci, who says we're in the bottom of the six, which is just nuts.

00:45:49.000 We are nearing the end of this thing, and everyone is aware of this.

00:45:53.000 Joe Biden is using that as the basis for the argument that we are just going to penalize them.

00:45:57.000 Because he knows.

00:45:59.000 The beautiful thing about being a Democrat is you can be the crappiest president ever. 1.00

00:46:01.000 You can be just garbage. 0.99

00:46:02.000 And they will continue to laud you as an amazingly transformational figure so long as you grew the government. 0.99

00:46:07.000 It doesn't matter that FDR's programs expanded the Great Depression into a decade-long event.

00:46:13.000 It does not matter.

00:46:14.000 Because he grew the government.

00:46:15.000 It doesn't matter that LBJ's economic program took a very strong economy, circa 1963-1964, and proceeded to transform it into a stagnating government, a stagnating economy, all the way from 1967 essentially to 1981.

00:46:30.000 That's okay, because he grew the government.

00:46:31.000 Joe Biden knows the same.

00:46:32.000 He knows that history will judge him by how much he grew the government, not how well the economy did under his term.

00:46:38.000 Right?

00:46:38.000 Because if you think of historic American Democratic presidents, nobody thinks of Bill Clinton, even though the economy did great under Bill Clinton.

00:46:43.000 Everybody thinks instead of who grew the government most.

00:46:45.000 Joe Biden knows this, and that's why he's pushing this nonsense.

00:46:48.000 And that's also why he's pushing his class warrior nonsense.

00:46:51.000 Pretty ironic stuff from a guy who allowed his son to run around the globe, picking up bags of cash, using his last name.

00:46:58.000 We're not going to deprive any of these executives of their second or third home, travel privately by jet.

00:47:05.000 It's not going to affect their standard of living at all.

00:47:08.000 Not a little tiny bit.

00:47:11.000 But I can affect the standard of living that people I grew up with, if they have a job, I can expect to make sure the standard of living of the people I grew up with get childcare, can afford it, so 20 million women can be back in the workforce. 0.96

00:47:27.000 I can expect the standard of living of the people I grew up with...

00:47:32.000 This incoherent old doddered talking about how, you know, if he confiscates wealth from the wealthy and then he gives it to people at the other end of the spectrum, this is going to create jobs.

00:47:41.000 Yeah, you know, they've tried this in many, many places.

00:47:43.000 It does not create economic growth. 1.00

00:47:45.000 It is a dumb idea. 0.98

00:47:46.000 It has been disproved every time it has been tried. 0.99

00:47:48.000 But you need the pandemic in order to push this sort of stuff.

00:47:50.000 You need it.

00:47:51.000 Because if we went right back to that 3% unemployment rate we had under Trump, everybody recognizes you don't need to do what the Democrats are talking about.

00:47:58.000 Alrighty, we'll be back here later today with an additional hour of content coming up soon.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - May 06, 2021

Who Will They Ban Next? | Ep. 1251

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